The idea of interceptors using rockets to shoot down large bombers have always interested me Aircraft such as the natter, scorpion, and Sabre dog have always been some of my favorites
I've always been fascinated with this aircraft and the entire concept. This video is one of the most complete explanations of the program. Thank you for putting the time, effort and research into it. Keep up this fine work.
I remember reading that after the War the Americans tested a captured unmanned Natter in Nevada, flying it under radio control.But it went haywire and crashed on top of a casino and burnt it down.
Steve P If you like ideas like this, I recommend looking up the F-89 Scorpion and F-86 Sabre dog They both were made to use rockets to shoot down bombers
The corporate media don't want competition to develop. Hence if you show WW2 content they'll pay hasbarat to accuse you of showing graphic violence, promoting nazism because you showed a tank with a swastika on it. Corporate fake news media want to destroy competition so they can continue to control the narrative.
@@Kay_213_ it appears that you described our government really well. Its not only post war, the current government of germany has been yote to oblivion
@Repomeister hahahahahahaha you're fucking insane, schitzo. OH NO, THE SCAAAARY SOCIALISTS (who dont exist btw) ARE GONNA BREAK THE CONSTITUTION, OH NOOO. Lol
Maybe they believed that allies would eventually fall to the same mistake the germans made previously: outstretching the front lines. Only regaining air superiority and one successful counterattack could turn the war again when you think about it(once the air superiority would be regained, the shortages might not be so bad, considering they had technological edge when it comes to planes, then they truly might've believed that they could turn this, then if there would be one successful counterattack, then Germans would advance for as long as they would have ammunition and fuel, which they would have more of if they would have air superiority).
Frank Teryngel how would building more planes and having air superiority make oil and metal just appear sure it would be easier to capture more territory. The technological edge is true to an extent but they weren’t that much more advanced the flying wing had been around since the 1920s by 1945 the British almost had the meteor ready which was superior to the 262 and the Americans almost had their jet ready too.
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LUFTWAFFE 1944: "How many crazy, insane, impractical weapons can we create to kill our own pilots even faster than the Allies are doing?"
Well done, and Thank You for this thorough, interesting and well edited presentation of this obscure aircraft..! At the 19:05 mark - The young lady pictured with (Erik Bacham sp?) is the famous German aviatrix and test pilot Hanna Reitsch. She was very talented, an ardent Nazi, carried the Luftwaffe rank of Flugkapitan with Iron Cross, and piloted the last plane to depart Berlin after trying to convince Hitler to seek safety. Her Arado Ar-96 was fired upon by the nearby Soviet 3rd Shock Army as it escaped from an improvised airfield in central Berlin. She survived the war and although her racial stance apparently softened, her devotion to the 'Fatherland' remained firm til her death in 1979.
Only T-Stoff rocket oxidiser would have been diverted to the V1 programme, because it was used to power the catapults that launched the V1s. T-Stoff was mainly highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide, which would decompose to steam and oxygen on addition of a suitable catalyst (Z-Stoff). T-Stoff was very dangerous to handle, because it would react with most organic materials including human flesh and clothing. Special protective rubberised suits were used by the people handling T-Stoff. The C-Stoff rocket fuel (a mixture of methanol, hydrazine and water, with a small amount of catalyst) was not used in the V1 programme. The main V1 fuel was low grade gasoline, used to power the pulse-jet engine. The V1 didn’t have a rocket engine.
Unlike the V2 the V1 was actually pretty cost effective as a single He 111 cost about as much as 6 V1's and also needed to put highly valuable skilled crew in danger. The pulse jet was very easy to make and didn't require any rare resources.
I was a High School History Teacher. The problem is that there is too much stuff to cover and not enough time. I mentioned the Natter and ME 262 during my lecture on the end of the War but did not go into details. There just was not enough time.
It's marvelous to see someone finally posting video about the Natter. And I say that because it astounds me that for all the documentaries The History Channel aired, in the USA, over the past 25 years about WW II, with going to lengths about the German super weapons, experimental weapons, exotic Luftwaffe aircraft . . . the Natter was noticeably absent from those History Channel TV programs . . . as if the Natter never existed! I was aware of the Natter from print publications of decades ago, but this is the first I've seen of it on film/video. Thanks for this post!
Agree, better invest in fixing the problem that "RUclips Studio" is loading for ages, or when adding audio, that the preview playback often skips the music. Or videos being incorrectly interpreted as being much longer than these really are, and thus upload getting aborted because the video is "too long". Upload it a few hours later, and it's suddenly ok...
8:48 'Built into a stripped down pine tree.'.. damn 9:58 gotta love those takeoff wheels 12:00 'Thats around the height of nelsons column.' A nice reference for the lads who realized how quickly paintballs slow down when you shoot straight up at a statue.
@ A'Murica If you are referring to the fast moving aircraft at 0:17, seemingly filmed from the waist gunner's station on a B-17, and accompanied by the (not unexpected) exclamations of amazement, I think you will find that it's an Me 163.
I knew a guy online who was a rear gunner on US bombers. On coming back from a raid he reported to military intelligence that they had encountered an extremely fast propeller-less plane. As he told them, he realised from their response that he was telling them nothing that they didn't already know and he was furious that aircrews were going over without being told of this new plane.
Very acurate information and thus super informative. I acctually didn't know the part that those pictures with Swastykas on the natter are actually false. You can see the work you put into this video. Everyone loves it !
I got to see one of the only two remaining in storage about 15 years ago or so. A neighbor of mine works/worked for the National Air and Space Museum preservation hangar, and invited a friend and myself to see it. We were about 11-13 years old, so I can't remember much (other than getting to see Neil Armstrong's space suit up close) but I'd never forget that bizarre honeycomb pattern of launch tubes up front.
Kermit Weeks has one of these planes at his museum in Florida. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it stored on a upper level of one of the hangers at Fantasy of flight museum. They let me go up to the second floor and take a good look at it. Very crude construction.
Another reason why middle/late war German vehicles were so u reliable was due to how they were made. Most were made by forced labor, Jews, Russians, and other “undesirables” who were selected for work would build them. They weren’t stupid either, they knew how to sabotage parts and get away with it. They also helped massively with the allied war effort but often goes forgotten. Let’s take a min to remember all those who helped fight the axis powers
Thanks for a good video. One Inaccuracy, the V1 only had a couple of solid rocket boosters and the main engine was a pulse jet which used used kerosine, not T stoff or C stoff. The V2 did though.
@8:30 The Saint-Nazaire submarine base was bombed several times. It was built with a half million cubic meters of reinforced concrete. The Americans and British used their largest bunker busting bombs available at the time, they did no damage to the bunker or anything inside. It was never destroyed and no u-boats were harmed while inside the bunker complex. In fact it is still there and you can see the pockmarks on the roof where bombs hit it. Wikipedia says: "The roof is 8 metres deep, featuring four layers: the first one is a 3.5 metre sheet of reinforced concrete; the second is a 35 cm granite and concrete layers; the third is a 1.7 metre layer of reinforced concrete, and the fourth, is a "Fangrost" layer of steel beams, 1.40 metres deep."
One of the test pilots of the unpowered flights, Erich Klöckner, actually lived in my hometown until his death in 2003. Sadly, I didn't get a chance to meet him. Look him up on Wikipedia, he was quite the interesting personality!
Well, early jet engine short lifespan is actually an inflated myth. It WAS bad, but not THAT bad. There are three factors people forget: 1)jet engine is in fact of simpler design then a normal one even a radial one. Add things like turbocharging and autocannons in engine block and you'll see why jets were simpler and thus cheaper and easier to make. 2)life expectancy of said normal engines already pushed to their limits themselves was going as low as 100 hours. 3)people mistake service life and maintenance terms. Jumo-004A was easily going beyond 100 hours on the first ones and was checked once in 50. 004B ie the one build without alloys had maintenance terms lowered to 25 hours, BUT it could survive for several checks. It wasn't JUST 25 hours, it was often 50 or even 75+ hours of service life.
If you think WW2 jet engine life is short, the much touted Soviet T-34 tank's transmission was only good for about 75 kilometers. After that, the transmission had to be removed and replaced with a new one and that assumes you can get a new one because replacements were not a top priority since in the minds of the Soviet planners, the tank in question would most like have been destroyed and the crew dead.
I know this is sidetracking from the main topic, but that's an interesting claim about the T-34... So I looked it up and you are correct - although the issue wasn't solely the transmission per se. Here is from source material used by an online military intel blogger about the T-34... a quote by Major General Kotin, People’s commissar of the tank industry of the USSR and chief designer of heavy tank ‘Kliment Voroshilov’. In his speech he said: "Recently comrade Morozov and I visited comrade Stalin. Comrade Stalin drew our attention to the fact that enemy tanks cover a lot of ground freely, and our machines although are better, but have a disadvantage: after 50 or 80 kilometers march they require repair. What are we talking about? It is because of control gear; also, as comrade Stalin said, because of drive gear, and he compared it with the Pz.III, which is in service with the German army, and which is inferior in armor protection, and in other features, and in crew's layout, and does not have such a fine engine, which the T-34 got, moreover its engine is gasoline, not diesel. But the question аrises - why its drive gear is developed better?" Here is the blog page: chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html
Kermit Weeks has one of these aircraft at his museum in Florida. I saw a natter there about eight years ago. It was located on the second floor of one of his hangers. I spotted it while I was standing outside of the main hanger door as I looked up to the second floor railing. I asked someone if that was indeed a natter and they said it was and asked if I wish to go up to have a good look at it. On closer examination I was surprised how simple it’s construction was. In fact it was very crude. The rocket motor was out of it but they said it was in storage somewhere, maybe in the engine wear house? The nose cone was off of it and you could see where the 24 attack rockets would have been placed. Over the years I’ve looked at all the captured natter photos taken in the mountains right after the the area was captured. I did not see one fuel trailer in any of the photos taken. Nor did I see a a complete launch tower of any kind. As far as I know there were only a couple of places that could manufacture the fuel. One was located on the Baltic shore line and one other was at a plant that was used to manufacture poison gas. I knew of the poison gas plant because I knew a American soldier who would ride a train from the poison gas storage location and plant after the war. The gas was loaded on ships and dropped into the ocean. The Germans had stockpile a great deal of gas and then switched some equipment over to produce fuel. Years ago I found a web site that had photos of what remains of the plant. The web site and the location of the plant escapes me now. Come to think of it I don’t remember him saying where it was he just had photos of the remaining structures.
" we want volunteers to pilot a Natter ? " ............tumbleweed...........clock ticking loudly..........leaves rusting on trees.........coughing.....
The test-pilot, Sieber, had apparently volunteered because he had got into trouble through drinking and thought that the test-flying would heal things. He ended up as a body-fragment in the hole left by the crash.
By the way, the last surviving intact Natter is in storage with the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air And Space Museum Garber facility in Silver Hill, Maryland, awaiting its turn to be on static display. Reason why the Smithsonian’s got it is because it was captured by American soldiers in southern Germany.
I remember reading about this aircraft program years ago. One thing that stuck with me is when it mentioned that the C-stoff and T-stoff containers leaked, (probably from vibration) after a test flight. The pilot was found later. He'd been partially burnt, dissolved by the highly oxidative nature of the rocket fuel.
An Austrian friend of mine once found some Natter bits in the mountains. Written on the tail was something like "If found, please ring the nearest police station."
The slave labor made sure all those jet engines were junk. They purposely salted the bearings with sand and anything that destroyed the engine. Many were killed because of this but because they knew those planes might count towards a German victory, it was worth dying over. Many were Poles anyways. Anyone that was a slave knew they had no chance of survival under the german rule. Indeed many were killed whenever Germany was forced to move their facilities. When the US found the Buzz bomb facitities abandoned, the prisioners that were left behind were machine gunned. Few survived but were happy to show US troops how those rockets were made. Many were sent to help rebuild and test the captured rocket parts. They became citizens of the US and became educated and stayed on with the rocket programs.
I dont think a lot of people know how much the slave population helped out with sabotage at the cost of their own lives liked your thoughts there should be more and probably is more information on just how they did this
The first flight of that thing was in my hometown and there's a replica of the Natter (+ some original parts) in the local military museum. Btw Schlange means Snake. Natter is just the name of a snake familiy (colubrid/colubridae).
AWESOME VIDEO...and many thankyous for not using a comp voice in place of your own voice. Soo many people do it cause their accent or broken English. VERY WELL DONE !!
Technically it did use rocket fuel the launch ramp for the v1 used hypergolic fuel mixture of hydrogen peroxide and potassium permanganate (T-stoff/Z-stoff) the same fuel the me163 used
It might be of interest, that after the war Mr. Bachem founded a company that produced mobile homes. The name for this caravans is: Eriba. That is the short name of "ERIch BAchem". These Caravans are still produced until now! They did not change their look substantial up to now and have a very good reputation.
In regards to the V2. The “V” term Vergeltungs means more like Reprisal. The idea was to inflict such damage to British cities that an end to the allied bombing campaign on German cities could be negotiated. From the 10,000th V2 production was to only require 4000 man hours per unit so a workforce of 20,000 could produce 1000/month (actual target was 5000). These final V2 used plastic fuel tanks to save on materials. These V2 also would have replaced the basic LEV-3 with the more accurate SG66 gimballed platform guidance with cross wind compensating accelerometers and a radio beam riding system called “vollcircle” that road a pencil like beam. Both Vollzirkle and SC66 were to place the V2 within 500m. (Vollzirkle should be mistaken with Victoria beam that was two dimensional only and lacked refinements such as radar cut of of Motorrad beam). The winged A4R actually flew and nearly doubled range. Since it used a blind bombing radar transponder in the terminal phases and was expected to be guided within 90 meters of target. Just think of 1000 V2 hitting Britain per week.
9:36 Armenian “they are still very vulnerable on takeoff and landing” Me “HAH our op asf AAA will take out the enemy planes!” that is when u know that you play too much War Thunder
On its first manned powered test flight the pilot had asked for the "autopilot" to be switched off, as he may have thought to be capable enough to control the plane during the initial phase of the takeoff. Immediately after launch the canopy detached from the cockpit. The Natter then entered a low overcast cloud ceiling. This may have caused the pilot to lose spacial orientation. The Natter was then seen bursting back out of the clouds heading down vertically, still at full power and crashed into the ground. When the ground crew came to investigate the crash site -a five meter deep crater - one of the officers let his dachshund roam around freely despite protests of others. When the dog found some of the pilot´s remains and started to feed on them, it was taken out with a spade by one of the workers.
Helmut Kogelberger the remains were found after WW2 and was subject of a recent documentary. It seems one of the booster rockets misfired (fired late) then wouldn’t detach and this was a factor in the crash. Natter was supposed to be guided by a V2 like autopilot which was modified by radio command. Thus placed in an ideal attack position the pilot then carry out the final attack. Seems a solid concept and nothing unusual.. A lot of things had to work but it’s a lot safer way to get to the heavily escorted US bombers.
My father (still with us !) is currently the youngest POW from WW-2 , he was on failed "Mission to Hammelburg'', all were killed or captured. The POW's thought the war was pretty much won by Allies.... until they saw the first jet powered airplane. It was incredibly demoralizing to them at the time in addition to the starvation conditions that existed in the camps towards the very end of the war. A few weeks later they were being marched towards the West but until they saw American units, they feared the guns (German or American or Soviet...) could open up at any time.
Meanwhile the British were developing a rocket propelled exploding wheel, while the Germans were messing around with autopilot. I see a tech disparity here.
ChickenStealer so all German ideas were taken up? None were dropped as impractical as the “wheel” was? I’m assuming you’re American, since most asinine comments re British developments seem to come from the perennial latecomers.
To be honest, according to David Irving. The facility of V2 and V3 observe a lot of bombing for the German civilian since it became the main target of Allied bombing, the bomber that used to bomb civilian target had forced to bomb the stronghold facility of the V2 and V3. Which technically saved German civilians lives.
my granduncle was a plane engeneer in the german army , his job was to repair all sorts of planes .In 1945 he was sent to a airforce school where they taught him how to repair the 262 and 2 weeks after that the war was over and he was in the hands of the russians . He had to work in a labor camp located in germany and his unit was the first german unit to be released by the russians in 1946 already
It's the same with Belgium, we need new jet fighters. There are F-35's with millions of flaws and the already proven Rafale 2000 and Eurofighter Typhoon, and still Belgium chooses to buy the F-35.
They have said this about the F-16 too back then. It became an iconic fighter that performed very well. The same will happen with the F-35. Mark my words.
Hoe kan het toch dat Europese landen niet gewoon allemaal dezelfde Europese opvolger kopen? Of een moderne Mig desnoods, dat zou pas bijzonder zijn. Nee hoor, Amerika kiest de F35, dus doet Europa mee, vanwege het hele wapensysteem. En de handelsbelangen. Business as usual, toch?
@@juliusfucik4011 Of course it will work. That's what is designed for. I don't know exactly why the pilots prefer another plane. But a good example is why Russian pilots like their Migs so much: rough and dirty runway no problem, parking outside no problem, bad weather no problem, it's very reliable, for it's built as a weapon, it's not beautiful and not expensive. Compare that to other planes, then you need good reasons to make another choice. For the F35 that's simpel, for working together. But that doesn't mean F35 is the best plane for all European fighter pilots. Like the Belgium man said, there's two alternatives. And I wouldn't be surprised if other aircraft companies have other alternatives. But, the F35 it is.
EVERY time a clip of film shows a WWII plane (and sometimes more modern jets) in a dive or crashing, they play a Stuka's Jericho Trumpet.
They even used it in The Mandolorian - season 2, episode 2.
The idea of interceptors using rockets to shoot down large bombers have always interested me
Aircraft such as the natter, scorpion, and Sabre dog have always been some of my favorites
I've always been fascinated with this aircraft and the entire concept. This video is one of the most complete explanations of the program. Thank you for putting the time, effort and research into it. Keep up this fine work.
I remember reading that after the War the Americans tested a captured unmanned Natter in Nevada, flying it under radio control.But it went haywire and crashed on top of a casino and burnt it down.
Steve P
If you like ideas like this, I recommend looking up the F-89 Scorpion and F-86 Sabre dog
They both were made to use rockets to shoot down bombers
Remember what a big deal they made out of Space-X using re-usable rockets ? The Germans have been doing this since ww2.
19:31 so basically they tried to avoid demonetization before youtube demonetization even exist?
The corporate media don't want competition to develop. Hence if you show WW2 content they'll pay hasbarat to accuse you of showing graphic violence, promoting nazism because you showed a tank with a swastika on it. Corporate fake news media want to destroy competition so they can continue to control the narrative.
Demonetization has always been a thing.
It’s just in recent years that the-
Oh, you’re talking about Germany. I’m fucking stupid
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the pine tree platforms are dank af. Damn, they were very desperate.
@Art Deco Jeweller they wouldnt have had to defend it, if they hadn't elected a man who started all this shit lmfao
Desperate, sketchy, dank, ludicrous
All would really apply for late war Germany
@@Kay_213_ it appears that you described our government really well. Its not only post war, the current government of germany has been yote to oblivion
@Learn Forex Trading cringeeeeeeeeee "defend their nation" after invading and murdering millions of people hAHAHAHA
@Repomeister hahahahahahaha you're fucking insane, schitzo. OH NO, THE SCAAAARY SOCIALISTS (who dont exist btw) ARE GONNA BREAK THE CONSTITUTION, OH NOOO. Lol
People really don't realize how bad the fuel shortages were, crazy to think at that point the Germans still thought they had a chance.
My adoptive grandfather was a 109 pilot, but in the 2 last year of the war he didn't fly, as the squadron didn't have any fuel at all.
It's still crazy that in 1945 Berlin some people still believed the war could be won
Maybe they believed that allies would eventually fall to the same mistake the germans made previously: outstretching the front lines. Only regaining air superiority and one successful counterattack could turn the war again when you think about it(once the air superiority would be regained, the shortages might not be so bad, considering they had technological edge when it comes to planes, then they truly might've believed that they could turn this, then if there would be one successful counterattack, then Germans would advance for as long as they would have ammunition and fuel, which they would have more of if they would have air superiority).
Chim Ritchelds they never had a chance
Frank Teryngel how would building more planes and having air superiority make oil and metal just appear sure it would be easier to capture more territory. The technological edge is true to an extent but they weren’t that much more advanced the flying wing had been around since the 1920s by 1945 the British almost had the meteor ready which was superior to the 262 and the Americans almost had their jet ready too.
LUFTWAFFE 1944: "How many crazy, insane, impractical weapons can we create to kill our own pilots even faster than the Allies are doing?"
Pretty much. Pilot's chance of survival about 0%.
"yes"
Well done, and Thank You for this thorough, interesting and well edited presentation of this obscure aircraft..!
At the 19:05 mark - The young lady pictured with (Erik Bacham sp?) is the famous German aviatrix and test pilot Hanna Reitsch. She was very talented, an ardent Nazi, carried the Luftwaffe rank of Flugkapitan with Iron Cross, and piloted the last plane to depart Berlin after trying to convince Hitler to seek safety. Her Arado Ar-96 was fired upon by the nearby Soviet 3rd Shock Army as it escaped from an improvised airfield in central Berlin. She survived the war and although her racial stance apparently softened, her devotion to the 'Fatherland' remained firm til her death in 1979.
Only T-Stoff rocket oxidiser would have been diverted to the V1 programme, because it was used to power the catapults that launched the V1s. T-Stoff was mainly highly concentrated hydrogen peroxide, which would decompose to steam and oxygen on addition of a suitable catalyst (Z-Stoff). T-Stoff was very dangerous to handle, because it would react with most organic materials including human flesh and clothing. Special protective rubberised suits were used by the people handling T-Stoff.
The C-Stoff rocket fuel (a mixture of methanol, hydrazine and water, with a small amount of catalyst) was not used in the V1 programme. The main V1 fuel was low grade gasoline, used to power the pulse-jet engine. The V1 didn’t have a rocket engine.
Unlike the V2 the V1 was actually pretty cost effective as a single He 111 cost about as much as 6 V1's and also needed to put highly valuable skilled crew in danger. The pulse jet was very easy to make and didn't require any rare resources.
Any landing you can walk away from is a good landing.... yes including the ones you have to split the plane in two
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I serve at the base where the natter was built even the place where it started is still there and original parts of it are in the nearby museum
LeOn Mk can you put links of some of the photos you could take for us? I'm curious to see that
@@Loup-mx7ytyeah sure i think i even took some photos 2 years ago
LeOn Mk I’m not seeing those plane parts.
@@ThePlatinumsquirrel there they are
guys i go to that museum on thuraday i can post newer and better photos then
A lot of info i would love if you were my History teacher.
Keep it up Iron.
The Natter also was the first manned (!) vertical take off rocket. Natter is the German term for snakes of the Colubridae family.
If he could speak English properly!
I was a High School History Teacher. The problem is that there is too much stuff to cover and not enough time. I mentioned the Natter and ME 262 during my lecture on the end of the War but did not go into details. There just was not enough time.
@@Astuga Yes, Natter = adder/viper.
I wonder how long until people start spamming Gaijin to add this to War Thunder
Gujibbles pls
Disposable aircraft in war thunder? Hell no.
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Pretty sure it already is in warthunder... Just doesn't launch vertically etc
They made a wooden glider with two 20mm cannons you piloted laying on your stomach. I want that in War Thunder.
It's marvelous to see someone finally posting video about the Natter. And I say that because it astounds me that for all the documentaries The History Channel aired, in the USA, over the past 25 years about WW II, with going to lengths about the German super weapons, experimental weapons, exotic Luftwaffe aircraft . . . the Natter was noticeably absent from those History Channel TV programs . . . as if the Natter never existed!
I was aware of the Natter from print publications of decades ago, but this is the first I've seen of it on film/video. Thanks for this post!
i like this please make more
How the Hell six days ago???
@@mikehunt7977 maybe, he has like special access to his videos
@@homiespaghetti1522 O patreon?
@@mikehunt7977 in the discord you could see it early
People these days will like anything.
This craft in German pilot lingo was short for -- your life voesn't Natter.
I really don’t get the whole idea of premiers on RUclips.
Yea same...
more useless features nobody asked for instead of actually fixing the site
I only see it usefull for shows that run on seasons and episodes to hype up the first episode of a season
This video will get demonetized for showing swastikas in WW2 footage.
Agree, better invest in fixing the problem that "RUclips Studio" is loading for ages, or when adding audio, that the preview playback often skips the music. Or videos being incorrectly interpreted as being much longer than these really are, and thus upload getting aborted because the video is "too long". Upload it a few hours later, and it's suddenly ok...
Project Natter...For a moment i thought the Nazis had grabbed my mother-in-law and weaponised her.
The true wunderwaffe
8:48 'Built into a stripped down pine tree.'.. damn
9:58 gotta love those takeoff wheels
12:00 'Thats around the height of nelsons column.' A nice reference for the lads who realized how quickly paintballs slow down when you shoot straight up at a statue.
must be hell of a ride....
here's yours plane, a rocket on a tree frame with no landing gear... must need some pevitin to get into that
julemanden uden gaver pervitan
Iron do a kv2 carrier landing :D
A KV 2 parachuting from a TU 6 onto a carrier
Drinking kvass
and dancing hardbass
and wearing adidas
and eating mayonnaise
Listening to the US Airmen talk about their first contact with the HE 162 is awe inspiring.
Pretty sure that was a re-enactment.
@@Ijusthopeitsquick no its totally real they used DAT recorders (a new format at the time) to capture them
@ A'Murica If you are referring to the fast moving aircraft at 0:17, seemingly filmed from the waist gunner's station on a B-17, and accompanied by the (not unexpected) exclamations of amazement, I think you will find that it's an Me 163.
I knew a guy online who was a rear gunner on US bombers. On coming back from a raid he reported to military intelligence that they had encountered an extremely fast propeller-less plane. As he told them, he realised from their response that he was telling them nothing that they didn't already know and he was furious that aircrews were going over without being told of this new plane.
A'Murica Are they genuine do you think?
No natter November
Недрочабрь.
Gabe Varley the hardest challenge
These pilots were very brave men. A very risky exercise.
have to say the 262 has to be one of the coolest looking jets tho
Very acurate information and thus super informative. I acctually didn't know the part that those pictures with Swastykas on the natter are actually false. You can see the work you put into this video. Everyone loves it !
Amazing innovative designs, the Germans were clearly ahead in rocket research.
I got to see one of the only two remaining in storage about 15 years ago or so. A neighbor of mine works/worked for the National Air and Space Museum preservation hangar, and invited a friend and myself to see it. We were about 11-13 years old, so I can't remember much (other than getting to see Neil Armstrong's space suit up close) but I'd never forget that bizarre honeycomb pattern of launch tubes up front.
VERY NICE documentary. Informative and fascinating.
Excellent post, thanks for sharing it. Great Natter and Komet footage.
Look up Operation Krokus for the April 1945 attempt by the SS _Luftkorps_ to operationally deploy 6-8 Natters
Kermit Weeks has one of these planes at his museum in Florida. I couldn’t believe it when I saw it stored on a upper level of one of the hangers at Fantasy of flight museum. They let me go up to the second floor and take a good look at it. Very crude construction.
Another reason why middle/late war German vehicles were so u reliable was due to how they were made. Most were made by forced labor, Jews, Russians, and other “undesirables” who were selected for work would build them. They weren’t stupid either, they knew how to sabotage parts and get away with it. They also helped massively with the allied war effort but often goes forgotten. Let’s take a min to remember all those who helped fight the axis powers
Great video man, that's funny he made guitars that break apart. I,LL have to check out more of your stuff.cheers
German 1940: big peepee army
German 1945: smol peepee army
This is a high iq comment.
Thanks for a good video. One Inaccuracy, the V1 only had a couple of solid rocket boosters and the main engine was a pulse jet which used used kerosine, not T stoff or C stoff. The V2 did though.
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"Gramercy!"
@8:30 The Saint-Nazaire submarine base was bombed several times. It was built with a half million cubic meters of reinforced concrete. The Americans and British used their largest bunker busting bombs available at the time, they did no damage to the bunker or anything inside. It was never destroyed and no u-boats were harmed while inside the bunker complex. In fact it is still there and you can see the pockmarks on the roof where bombs hit it.
Wikipedia says: "The roof is 8 metres deep, featuring four layers: the first one is a 3.5 metre sheet of reinforced concrete; the second is a 35 cm granite and concrete layers; the third is a 1.7 metre layer of reinforced concrete, and the fourth, is a "Fangrost" layer of steel beams, 1.40 metres deep."
Good bomb shelter for a nuke
9:13 "Prop planes take ages to gain altitude."
9:15 "It also requires a long time to climb from ground level to high altitude."
Ya think?
Thats how i get the word count on my reports.. lmao
Yeahh I let that slide.
One of the test pilots of the unpowered flights, Erich Klöckner, actually lived in my hometown until his death in 2003. Sadly, I didn't get a chance to meet him. Look him up on Wikipedia, he was quite the interesting personality!
Well, early jet engine short lifespan is actually an inflated myth. It WAS bad, but not THAT bad. There are three factors people forget:
1)jet engine is in fact of simpler design then a normal one even a radial one. Add things like turbocharging and autocannons in engine block and you'll see why jets were simpler and thus cheaper and easier to make.
2)life expectancy of said normal engines already pushed to their limits themselves was going as low as 100 hours.
3)people mistake service life and maintenance terms. Jumo-004A was easily going beyond 100 hours on the first ones and was checked once in 50. 004B ie the one build without alloys had maintenance terms lowered to 25 hours, BUT it could survive for several checks. It wasn't JUST 25 hours, it was often 50 or even 75+ hours of service life.
is there any sources on the internet for those infos?
Onur Baykal I know it was mention in one of Military History Visualized’s videos, I can’t remember which one though.
@wood1155 hmm, haven't noticed actually. Care to point to it?
If you think WW2 jet engine life is short, the much touted Soviet T-34 tank's transmission was only good for about 75 kilometers. After that, the transmission had to be removed and replaced with a new one and that assumes you can get a new one because replacements were not a top priority since in the minds of the Soviet planners, the tank in question would most like have been destroyed and the crew dead.
I know this is sidetracking from the main topic, but that's an interesting claim about the T-34... So I looked it up and you are correct - although the issue wasn't solely the transmission per se. Here is from source material used by an online military intel blogger about the T-34... a quote by Major General Kotin, People’s commissar of the tank industry of the USSR and chief designer of heavy tank ‘Kliment Voroshilov’. In his speech he said:
"Recently comrade Morozov and I visited comrade Stalin. Comrade Stalin drew our attention to the fact that enemy tanks cover a lot of ground freely, and our machines although are better, but have a disadvantage: after 50 or 80 kilometers march they require repair. What are we talking about? It is because of control gear; also, as comrade Stalin said, because of drive gear, and he compared it with the Pz.III, which is in service with the German army, and which is inferior in armor protection, and in other features, and in crew's layout, and does not have such a fine engine, which the T-34 got, moreover its engine is gasoline, not diesel. But the question аrises - why its drive gear is developed better?"
Here is the blog page: chris-intel-corner.blogspot.com/2012/07/wwii-myths-t-34-best-tank-of-war.html
First time I see a video that gives this plane more than a few minutes, thanks.
Natter doesn't mean snake but is a type of snake. In German snake is "Schlange"
freshmilkymilk 3 It’s Adder, right?
@@space__idklmao yes
Kermit Weeks has one of these aircraft at his museum in Florida. I saw a natter there about eight years ago. It was located on the second floor of one of his hangers. I spotted it while I was standing outside of the main hanger door as I looked up to the second floor railing. I asked someone if that was indeed a natter and they said it was and asked if I wish to go up to have a good look at it. On closer examination I was surprised how simple it’s construction was. In fact it was very crude. The rocket motor was out of it but they said it was in storage somewhere, maybe in the engine wear house? The nose cone was off of it and you could see where the 24 attack rockets would have been placed.
Over the years I’ve looked at all the captured natter photos taken in the mountains right after the the area was captured. I did not see one fuel trailer in any of the photos taken. Nor did I see a a complete launch tower of any kind.
As far as I know there were only a couple of places that could manufacture the fuel. One was located on the Baltic shore line and one other was at a plant that was used to manufacture poison gas.
I knew of the poison gas plant because I knew a American soldier who would ride a train from the poison gas storage location and plant after the war. The gas was loaded on ships and dropped into the ocean.
The Germans had stockpile a great deal of gas and then switched some equipment over to produce fuel. Years ago I found a web site that had photos of what remains of the plant. The web site and the location of the plant escapes me now. Come to think of it I don’t remember him saying where it was he just had photos of the remaining structures.
This is some amazing footage you found
I go the extra mile to make sure to get the best and cleanest footage. WW2 film can look great but often its been uploaded in low quality.
Really great historical documentary. Very professional, you make David Attenborough appear like an amateur :)
What.... Have some sense of proportion. Don't exaggerate unnecessarily.
@@xmlthegreat What... have some sense of sarcasm. Don't observe things like a robot.
What a well put together video.
Great video with details I haven't heard on other videos on the topic. Earned my subscription!
" we want volunteers to pilot a Natter ? " ............tumbleweed...........clock ticking loudly..........leaves rusting on trees.........coughing.....
Termination by semi-disposable VTO
The test-pilot, Sieber, had apparently volunteered because he had got into trouble through drinking and thought that the test-flying would heal things. He ended up as a body-fragment in the hole left by the crash.
Japanese ambassador: I know a few guys who might be able to help.
Ornament= decorations or jewellery worn as a visual enhancement.
Armament=weapons and weapon systems used for offensive or defensive operations
Theirs no way to say this without setting myself up... i’de love to try that Ball Gunner position...
By the way, the last surviving intact Natter is in storage with the Smithsonian Institution’s National Air And Space Museum Garber facility in Silver Hill, Maryland, awaiting its turn to be on static display. Reason why the Smithsonian’s got it is because it was captured by American soldiers in southern Germany.
7:45 they’re called elevons, short for elevator-ailerons
I remember reading about this aircraft program years ago. One thing that stuck with me is when it mentioned that the C-stoff and T-stoff containers leaked, (probably from vibration) after a test flight. The pilot was found later. He'd been partially burnt, dissolved by the highly oxidative nature of the rocket fuel.
A very good video, I recommend it highly
Worth the effort
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An Austrian friend of mine once found some Natter bits in the mountains. Written on the tail was something like "If found, please ring the nearest police station."
Did you get the natter
he DID say that he would make a follow up video on it, yet it seems he deleted the comment :/
5:37 that's some pretty cool footage of a Natter being constructed, considering how few were made.
Finally, I have been waiting for a good video on the natter since 1170 AD
Go check out Mark Felton productions.
The slave labor made sure all those jet engines were junk. They purposely salted the bearings with sand and anything that destroyed the engine. Many were killed because of this but because they knew those planes might count towards a German victory, it was worth dying over. Many were Poles anyways. Anyone that was a slave knew they had no chance of survival under the german rule. Indeed many were killed whenever Germany was forced to move their facilities. When the US found the Buzz bomb facitities abandoned, the prisioners that were left behind were machine gunned. Few survived but were happy to show US troops how those rockets were made. Many were sent to help rebuild and test the captured rocket parts. They became citizens of the US and became educated and stayed on with the rocket programs.
I dont think a lot of people know how much the slave population helped out with sabotage at the cost of their own lives liked your thoughts there should be more and probably is more information on just how they did this
Pilot of one of these...a Nutter in a Natter.
Mike Moore The Mad Natter
hahaha lol the guitar bit made me chuggle :D
Me-163 more reliable? Ouch
The first flight of that thing was in my hometown and there's a replica of the Natter (+ some original parts) in the local military museum. Btw Schlange means Snake. Natter is just the name of a snake familiy (colubrid/colubridae).
Isnt the Natter the same as an Adder?
I would love a User Mission with this plane in War Thunder
yeah we should tell gaigin to add it to the German flight tree
AWESOME VIDEO...and many thankyous for not using a comp voice in place of your own voice. Soo many people do it cause their accent or broken English. VERY WELL DONE !!
The V1 didn't use rocket fuel. It's ramjet ran on gasoline. I think you meant V2 when talking about contention for rocket fuel.
Paul Francescutti it doesn’t run on a ram jet. The ram jet runs at a speed of Mach 2+ and the V1 uses a pulse jet engine instead.
@@original.ar73 True, sloppy thinking on my part. Point is the same though, gasoline.
Technically it did use rocket fuel the launch ramp for the v1 used hypergolic fuel mixture of hydrogen peroxide and potassium permanganate (T-stoff/Z-stoff) the same fuel the me163 used
I was partially incorrect actually the me163 used hydrogen peroxide and methanol/hydrazine/water
'Rocket fuel' is an extremely vague term. Pretty sure the V2 ran off ethanol
It might be of interest, that after the war Mr. Bachem founded a company that produced mobile homes. The name for this caravans is: Eriba. That is the short name of "ERIch BAchem". These Caravans are still produced until now! They did not change their look substantial up to now and have a very good reputation.
Blacknatter - ich habe ein cunning plan.
I remember this thing was in battlefield 1942 and it was one of the hardest things to fly
So he went on building rocket propelled guitars after the war? 😉
In regards to the V2. The “V” term Vergeltungs means more like Reprisal. The idea was to inflict such damage to British cities that an end to the allied bombing campaign on German cities could be negotiated. From the 10,000th V2 production was to only require 4000 man hours per unit so a workforce of 20,000 could produce 1000/month (actual target was 5000). These final V2 used plastic fuel tanks to save on materials. These V2 also would have replaced the basic LEV-3 with the more accurate SG66 gimballed platform guidance with cross wind compensating accelerometers and a radio beam riding system called “vollcircle” that road a pencil like beam. Both Vollzirkle and SC66 were to place the V2 within 500m. (Vollzirkle should be mistaken with Victoria beam that was two dimensional only and lacked refinements such as radar cut of of Motorrad beam). The winged A4R actually flew and nearly doubled range. Since it used a blind bombing radar transponder in the terminal phases and was expected to be guided within 90 meters of target. Just think of 1000 V2 hitting Britain per week.
9:36
Armenian “they are still very vulnerable on takeoff and landing”
Me
“HAH our op asf AAA will take out the enemy planes!”
that is when u know that you play too much War Thunder
It's only OP if it's the enemy AA. Your AA is never OP...
That girl in the picture at 19min 14sec is Hanna Reitsch. Her autobiography, The Sky My Kingdom is a very good read.
3:00 Warcrime?
Natter: growing planes in trees since 1944
7:52 I wonder what the story behind the steak restaurant is.
On its first manned powered test flight the pilot had asked for the "autopilot" to be switched off, as he may have thought to be capable enough to control the plane during the initial phase of the takeoff. Immediately after launch the canopy detached from the cockpit. The Natter then entered a low overcast cloud ceiling. This may have caused the pilot to lose spacial orientation. The Natter was then seen bursting back out of the clouds heading down vertically, still at full power and crashed into the ground.
When the ground crew came to investigate the crash site -a five meter deep crater - one of the officers let his dachshund roam around freely despite protests of others. When the dog found some of the pilot´s remains and started to feed on them, it was taken out with a spade by one of the workers.
Helmut Kogelberger the remains were found after WW2 and was subject of a recent documentary. It seems one of the booster rockets misfired (fired late) then wouldn’t detach and this was a factor in the crash. Natter was supposed to be guided by a V2 like autopilot which was modified by radio command. Thus placed in an ideal attack position the pilot then carry out the final attack. Seems a solid concept and nothing unusual.. A lot of things had to work but it’s a lot safer way to get to the heavily escorted US bombers.
Natter doesn't mean snake its a type of snake. The german word for snake is Schlange
@VOID what are you trying to tell me with this link?
Isnt the same as an Adder?
Just a small correction, Natter is just a kind of snake. Schlange actually means snake in German.
The only way this is a "wonder weapon" is when you wonder where they found someone daft enough to fly it.
It was probably one of the safest places in Germany at the time.
A wonder weapon with a wocket engine, and shooting wockets.
HUUUUUUUUUURRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRRR
One Allied pilot tried it, Eric Brown.
Oops, wrong rocket plane I think, sorry
My father (still with us !) is currently the youngest POW from WW-2 , he was on failed "Mission to Hammelburg'', all were killed or captured. The POW's thought the war was pretty much won by Allies.... until they saw the first jet powered airplane. It was incredibly demoralizing to them at the time in addition to the starvation conditions that existed in the camps towards the very end of the war. A few weeks later they were being marched towards the West but until they saw American units, they feared the guns (German or American or Soviet...) could open up at any time.
Meanwhile the British were developing a rocket propelled exploding wheel, while the Germans were messing around with autopilot. I see a tech disparity here.
We had no need to build rocket powered shit pal
General Rommel I am confused you are Rommel though
@@dl7096 British spy
ChickenStealer so all German ideas were taken up? None were dropped as impractical as the “wheel” was? I’m assuming you’re American, since most asinine comments re British developments seem to come from the perennial latecomers.
@@howardchambers3163 Let me ask you this, did the British invent anything of use?
To be honest, according to David Irving. The facility of V2 and V3 observe a lot of bombing for the German civilian since it became the main target of Allied bombing, the bomber that used to bomb civilian target had forced to bomb the stronghold facility of the V2 and V3. Which technically saved German civilians lives.
Did it nut?
not in november
@@marrymekatsuya yes in december
According to the shortage of lotion at the end of the war, it did nut only a few times.
my granduncle was a plane engeneer in the german army , his job was to repair all sorts of planes .In 1945 he was sent to a airforce school where they taught him how to repair the 262 and 2 weeks after that the war was over and he was in the hands of the russians . He had to work in a labor camp located in germany and his unit was the first german unit to be released by the russians in 1946 already
A former Henschel aoorentice went on to produce those replica Me 262s in the U.S..
"Arnement" LOL
I know right! I enjoyed the presentation but that kept bugging me
@@GamingKeenBeaner Me too.
L. O.L. ?Love of life? or what ever the words want to be?
"Argentinia" cracked me up also. All his "r"s are "w"s. It was difficult to listen to.
this is one of the best videos i have seen in a very long time
RIP letter "r"
so rude :D
Nahttuh
LOL!
Reinis Miks: And the diphthong "th"
This guy sounds like an English Elmer Fudd. "Wocket Powuhd Welaunchable Aewoplane Pwoject. I'll get you, you pesky wabbit!"
If you’re in the area you should go checkout planes of fame in Chino California they have a natter on display.
2:59
Roadkill
nice subtitles dude, they're top notch.
It's the same with Belgium,
we need new jet fighters.
There are F-35's with millions of flaws and the already proven Rafale 2000 and Eurofighter Typhoon,
and still Belgium chooses to buy the F-35.
Graft and corruption. Find out which politicians got the money and favors from the US builders.
They have said this about the F-16 too back then. It became an iconic fighter that performed very well. The same will happen with the F-35. Mark my words.
Hoe kan het toch dat Europese landen niet gewoon allemaal dezelfde Europese opvolger kopen? Of een moderne Mig desnoods, dat zou pas bijzonder zijn. Nee hoor, Amerika kiest de F35, dus doet Europa mee, vanwege het hele wapensysteem. En de handelsbelangen. Business as usual, toch?
@@juliusfucik4011 Of course it will work. That's what is designed for. I don't know exactly why the pilots prefer another plane. But a good example is why Russian pilots like their Migs so much: rough and dirty runway no problem, parking outside no problem, bad weather no problem, it's very reliable, for it's built as a weapon, it's not beautiful and not expensive. Compare that to other planes, then you need good reasons to make another choice. For the F35 that's simpel, for working together. But that doesn't mean F35 is the best plane for all European fighter pilots. Like the Belgium man said, there's two alternatives. And I wouldn't be surprised if other aircraft companies have other alternatives. But, the F35 it is.
IIRC many nato countries were forced to buy them. military-industrial-complex is eating itself up.
Theres a bit of a poke at Göering in HoI4 with his quote at the beginning of the video. Instead of his name being Herrman Göering, it's Herrman Meyer.
I wish i could time travel to comment 6 days ago... :(
Thanks for posting from a former WWII history fanatic ( I got older, and mellowed).
fun fact: the day after görings speech a misquito was spotted over germany.
I gues we call him Meyer
@@semiedgv guess what? exactly this happened. he was called meier after this until he died.
Mosquitos didn't exist in 1939. Check thy sources.
@@Jupiter__001_ still something of allied origin flew over germany and he was called meier afterwards.
@@Jupiter__001_ do you know wotans mickey-maus (wotans mickey-mouse)? its the underhand name for goebbels.
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No Nat November
Great archive....but can I edit your script, to take out repetition....keep up the good work .