ARROWS - Easton Vs Gold Tip - Years of use - | HAXEN HUNT |
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I’ve been shooting the Axis since they came out and have never had an issue with em. Follow the instructions for gluing the HIT with the epoxy they make and you should be good to go. Make sure to use the broadhead ring adaptors when hunting. A couple friends shoot the Gold Tip Hunter Pro. They’re great arrows too.
I never had a problem with gold tip personally, started with the hunter and now going to their target lineup with the ultralight!
gold tip xt's and pros since 2003 love them, still shooting a few of the originals!
Heck ya man!! Great freakin arrows!!!
I use the Easton insert glue and have never had a problem with inserts falling out. You may need to do a better job of cleaning the inside of your shaft before installing your inserts. Use cue tips and alcohol until there is nothing on the cue tip. I’ve shot both Easton and gold tip, I found the gold tips to have tighter tolerances, but have found the Victory RIP to outperform both. It’s a .204 shaft so it is closer to micro than my older gold tips and penetration is significantly improved. I’d also suggest using a different insert than the hidden Easton ones. Ethics makes a great insert, and would be much more durable.
Heck ya! Thank you for the advice! I’ll be checking that out!
With the Easton internal insert the face of the arrow may be absorbing most of the shock which could in turn cause it to splinter. The Gold Tip insert has an external face and could be providing a "buffer" to the arrow itself...just a thought!
That’s what one of my buddies was sayin about the eastons! He never had one split but I get it all the time
Hexx, Hexx, Hexx!!!!!
Aside from that lol. Aren't those two VERY different price point comps. Keep up the videos I enjoy them!!!
For the Easton’s I would go with a half out over the HIT but if you prefer the HIT score the inside with a wire brush for gun cleaning then make sure the inside of the shaft is very clean and make sure it is dry before gluing them in. Hope this helps but I would just try to stay away from the hit system in general.
The Bow Rack in Eugene Oregon built mine and I’ve had zero problems with the inserts coming out over a 2 year period, but I’ve DEFINITELY had several split at the tip.
Thanks for lettin me know! The bow rack is a freakin great shop!
The Bow Rack in Oregon is the best of the best. Almost world famous as being the best. I believe Cam Hanes and Rogan go there.
Todd Lymburner yeah it’s a sick shop! I wish I lived near by!
Easton Adapter Rings. Keep the Axis!!
Never had an insert come out and I use araldite epoxy but you must first clean inside your shaft with cotton wool bud and alcohol.
Yes cleaning the inside of the shaft is probably the most important thing that I haven’t done! Thanks so much for the insight!
I shoot the GT Hunter XT arrows also. I personally love them for the price!!! I just bought some of the GT Hunter Pros too, I like the smaller Nocks on the Pros better. So far, along with the +/- .5 Grains and .001 straightness!! Figured why not try them! Plus to me GT has the best nocks of any arrows!
Keep up the awesome content man!
Thanks so much for your support and input!!
Buy some extra nocks and don’t twist the arrow on the string to aline your fletching. It will stretch the nocks. Sometimes just one side which will make it kick to one side out of the gate. Great arrow.
@@GB-wh3kgthanks for the info. New to archery and I’ve been doing just that. Won’t be doing that in the future 🤙🤙
Another thing to pay close attention to is your D loop. The GT nock is abnormally small so make sure that there isn’t any up and down slop when you are drawn all the way back. Don’t be too tight either.
I cracked 2 axis in 2 days. On wood. Hit insert sucks.half outs are wobbly after strong hits. Maybe best solution is ironwill collars but they re out of stock. Or simply the gold tip arrow. Think i ll leave easton behind...
You'll soon see a decline in the gold tip. The one you shot was made in USA. Well, by my homeis and me before we all lost our jobs. I'm surprised Covid didn't cost everyone their jobs 😢. Happy hunting. Thanks for the lift!
I never use the HIT inserts in my Axis 5mm's. I use Gold Tip in/outsert 75g with a homemade collar (Easton XX75 shaft cut to 4.5mm) never had a problem 😁
I use half out SS inserts in my easton axis arrow, in order to give me a better FOC, and they fly like darts. So I build my own eastons.
I'm shooting goldtip hunters 400 they are extremely well built I had a punch trigger happen . Yes I'm learning lol but went to an aluminum bar on a stand with 0 damage I say there built well .
Heck ya!!
Beeman ICS Hunters were a great shaft. Easton killed the Beeman line but ICS Hunter is in the Easton line as 6.5mm. GT XT is my favorite hunting arrow, the ICS Hunter 2nd.
Here you go eastonarchery.com/arrows_/6point5/
I’ll check them out! Thank you!!
My easton inserts keep coming out after shooting them a few times at my new block target. Not the axis but the 6.5... I had the shop put them so not sure what the used
How are you cleaning the arrow before gluing the insect's?
ha think you mean inserts. Usually people use strong cleaners like Acetone, denatured alcohol, isopropyl alcohol and use that on the inside of the shafts, it's not safe to use on plastic nocks though....
It’s not the glue. U don’t clean the inside of the shaft before u glue in the insert. I have shot these arrows for years.
Currently shooting easton fmj’s but im actually switching back to gold tip hunters. Doing the mathematics with kinetic energy using archery calculators i can get the same out of a gold tip hunter as i would an fmj but for a fraction of the price. Granted it all boils down to personal preference but it is a good talking point
I’ll keep that in mind for sure! Thanks for the input and support!!
Momentum is more important than kinetic energy for arrow penetration. Heavier arrow>lighter arrow for momentum
Fmjs are just expensive aluminum arrows. Bend all the time. Don't rate them at all.
Is there a way of assembling an arrow where it doesn't compress the air inside the shaft? (My inserts aren't completely drilled through) I sometimes wonder if this is why nocks pop off in a hard impact.
My xt's if I hit a rock the insert gets pushed into the arrow and then the arrow the carbon just fans out in slits around it. Never had a insert come out. Had that happen on black eagle rampages. Wondering about victory arrows
Iron will makes collars thats are awesome for the end of your arrows, or if you just want some aluminum collars elk river archery makes some that are pretty good as well
Heck ya thanks man!!
@@HaxenHunt no problem, ive also had good luck with Aae max bond glue, get gun cleaning kit used 22 cal wire brush to clean inside of shaft then Q tip with acetone first then denatured alcohol and dry with clean Q tip, thats what i do, good luck!
I was wrong about the name of that glue, Max bond is their fletching glue but it's the Aae insert glue
The Easton axis Match grade is The best in the axis line up in the gold tip Hunter XT Is the second best and it’s lineup they now have a hunter pro when comparing those two there’s no question that the gold tip wins by considerable margin
Gold tip makes a tough arrow
3:23 Wind drift!!!!!!!! It is the bane of every archer's existence and nobody likes wind especially when doing outdoor shooting or huntin!
Good job bud keep them vids coming!
Thanks man!!!
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The only people that think Easton arrows are tough are the ones that never shot Gold Tip.
Try some carbon Express Maximan red! Might like them
Never had a problem with the HIT Insert staying in place of the axis ( melt glue), but i still dont get why they make it that complicated.
But great arrow, very, very durable.
Big downgrade for me on the goldtip hunter arrows.. i use spine 500, and they only build it to 30 inches... for whatever reason
Are you saying you like the gold tip better?
Easton the cheap ones are awesome
I have used the Axis very straight, shoot well arrows but I have never like an internal insert. I now exclusively Shoot Easton Hexx arrows they have a EXternal insert and I always purchase the brass inserts and build my own. Best shooting arrow I have ever used.Gold tip Hunters are good arrows But don't like the diameter.
Sweet! Thanks for letting me know! I’m really tryin to figure out the best!
Thx for a good review. You should try out the VAPs from Victory. I know you will love them!
Thanks for your support! I think I might have some on the way for testing!!
Get the black eagle insert glue it sets really fast
so be warned they will not go anywhere
Thanks for the tip!!
Check out Ethics Archery for better inserts.
Love your videos dude. Love the content. I cool video would be you showing and explaining paper tuning, bare shaft tuning and how you broad head tune.
Heck ya man!! Will do!! Thanks for the support!!!
Clean out with rubbing alcohol on a q tip after the arrows are cut us goat tuff arrow glue
Try fletch tite bohning glue works great
Dude frickin heck ya dude
Thanks man!!!
Carbon xpress maximas are better than both! If you want a Easton arrow then shoot a acc
I prefer Easton arrows
It's your left spin.., switch arrows or switch the right spin, tip gets loose in left spin, then the next shot brakes insert loose, also that loose insert, is cracking you arrows. Because the tip gets a run at the arrow, and cracks it. Don't believe me refletch to right spin try it, or switch inserts or arrows...
If you don't check which way your arrow is rotating coming off the bow and just throw a helical or offset on an arrow you are going to have inaccuracies. Arrows come off my bow naturally rotating left so left helical or offset is ideal for me. Take a bare shaft, mark the top of your nock and shoot it 5 ft away from the target and see where that line is. Mine was about 9 o'clock. More likely the issue is in the prep with inserts coming out. Any carbon dust left over from cutting and squaring will definitely cause issues with adhesion in the shaft.
@@kevinp2561 its slightly possible its still spinning right. Do it at 3', 3.5', then 4' to be 100% sure. But I shot left spin for awhile 30 years ago, my field point were always loose, so I fletched my arrows to spin right. problem solved. I didn't test my bow for natural spin, but I noticed no difference in accuracy. Left spin or failure to tighten tip before each shot = loose tips and loose tips, + and non shoulded inserts, + carbon arrows = loose inserts and cracked arrows, to me.
@@joracer1 I definitely agree with the last bit that loose broadheads or field points being shot will lead to problems. I shot my bare shaft further out and still had the same result. I guess part of it is in how they twist the strings while making them. Since strings can very so much across manufacturers you will see different results. Will definitely keep an eye on my BH and points because even with stock straight fletchings it still spins left. Shot a video at 240 fps which is the fastest for my GoPro and its tough to tell but it appears to spin left. Will also build a right helical in my testing process as I'm currently gearing up to build and test arrows for the upcoming hunting season.
Maybe he isn't aware of his attention to detail, THE preferred glue and the possible best ,even though there are about 5 r 6 different glues, slow down and double check your arrow assembly details, and for what it's worth, just for a curious point of interest, after your arrows are done, as you are making your arrows, get or have a piece of angled aluminum, long enough for 6r 12 arrows, processed with your arrows, place the arrow the angled aluminum balancer, watch it ,find the balance point, finish up your arrows, let the arrows balance to one of touching the table, maybe get another long piece of something and watch how close your arrows measure up to the being your own match grade attempt, with all things being considered, put a mark at center and measure your own actual foc , you'll might find yourself giving yourself a different sense of how your own building assembly gives you a better idea and sense of attention to detail, you might, if you slowly think about it, take some time relax, start setting your sight pins at your own preferences of distances, attention to detail carries more influences than you might think, just a good slow aim and a slow release, it doesn't matter if your shooting for personal practice or tournament competition fun, with archery being a physical/mental,,,,,mental/physical, your always gonna be shooting against yourself, this is why shop maintenance is infact the gospel of GOD, we all need to maintain an open mind, you need to learn arrow building until you can do it in your sleep, balancing and tuning the bow is the same way,,and I think paper tuning has probably the highest priority, but that's me, good mechanics is everything, you'll definitely respect your equipment better, wayneeden95@gmail.com
I am not a Fan of the Hit Inserts either, Remember Easton is a giant Company they aren't worried about quality (as in Indestructible) they rely on you to break/damage arrows that is how they make their money. I really think the H.I.T. System was designed that way on purpose. It makes absolutely no sense and leaves the front of the arrow completely weak and exposed to damage. I guess it makes everyone else money that are making collars.
Very true!