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Who is going out of their way to give you more than your share of dislikes? If you at Vice want to meet a legend of the AIM (60's) and a person from wounded knee LMK. It won't come free and it won't cost money. 's long as the river runs' you figure it out... Also your message never gets accross to spanish speaking america, that is sad. -B@SS_6
VICE News so rich f****** hide their money from the masses that didn't earn that money interesting well last time I don't like socialism and I don't like communism so you can all go f*** yourself
VICE News Reporters are the highest form of hero in today's "polter-zeit-geist". As in the purity requirements of the priesthood, journalist media are the only ones capable of exorcisms on the corruption possession of our power constructs. It's a freakin infestation. Cooler than ghost-busters. (I just adore the high tech Venn Diagram App!)
2-years later, the people of this planet still have never pursued this as it should have been, and we’re currently in a political and environmental hellscape. Kudos.
@@joeybanks18 the problem is the ficus they have they only look at Trump so we get divided this should also focus on all the billionaires and some corrupt corporate democrats and republicans.
These papers did name quite a few people, but I feel that basically every single rich person (hence anyone who could really start an investigation) does this. it's so widespread that any investigation would touch home for most if not all involved
@@thomasdietz-wpm1c793 Everyone has an agenda. Literally everyone. So, what’s your point? The better question to ask yourself, will this agenda or that agenda help everyday Americans as a collective, as Jesus taught, and not just the top 10% of Americans. You do realize that we’re in the second gilded age. This gilded age is massively worse now then it was pre-1929 Great Depression, aka the collapse of capitalism. That’s how wealthy these people are right now. God help us.
the reporters in russia, egypt etc are particularly respectable. they are literally risking their lives because we know what the leaders there do to quell dissent. keep up the good work you guys are heroes.
Well it isn't safe for US journalists either. Hell, the CIA is hellbent to torture and kill Assange, so imagine what they'd do to actual US citizens. Why don't they? 'Murcans are too stupid for anything to penetrate their race hate and loathsome fundamentalist/fascism.
@@westsidesmitty1 I wouldn’t say we are stupid I believe apart of the issue is the people that have huge platforms in the USA 🇺🇸 are not those apart of the “movement” but are apart of the propaganda machine.
8:18 "this is what journalism is about, to inform the public" Public re-elects the same guy as prime minister who resigned for his involvement in Panama papers.
The panama papers and the paradise papers is one of the reason why i laugh when every time i hear western govts accuse Africans govt of curruption. Even the queen of england hidding her money
The queen does not need to hide her money and the queen is a mere figurehead. There also is a difference between hiding money and diversifying risk, safeguarding property, and asset/wealth protection.
What's sadder than the fact that this won't sufficiently enrage people about the tax evasaion to take decisive action, is that most people simply don't know about this.
I think you massively oversimplify the issue by using a single sentence and words like "brainwashed" and "fake news". The research I've done leads me to the conclusion that this and the Panama Papers is the global elite fighting with each other. This definitely appears to be a managed leak as apposed to independent people just trying to stand up for what's right. I have to admit the Great Britain and other EU nations seem to be much more experienced in deceiving experienced people than the U.S. is. When I see the U.K. doing questionable news stories, I usually am compelled to research further and further & often get lost in the maze of directions it leads. When the U.S. do this, it often takes lass than 15 minutes to find the numerous connections to the rogue elements in our non-military intelligence agencies and the usual suspects in the private sector. Britannia has a few centuries more experience in hiding things from it's people and it shows, they are much better at it than the U.S. is. I don't have time to get into this thing extensively since I don't do this stuff for a living but do be perfectly candid, I still try to look at all these "tax cheats" as individuals. I don't really care if people find loopholes in tax laws because I'm very anarcho-capitalist. At the same time, I'm very anti-fascist, in that, if someone gets special treatment from a government, which benefits them financially, I still consider them as owing a debt to the society in which that government resides. So I would look upon how much they pay, much more critically. In case this is confusing, to elaborate on my interpretation of "fascism", Mussolini once described fascism as "corporatism" which is what we refer to today as crony-capitalism.
Adam Bechtol taxation is theft with a gun that's all taxation is and you keep on taxing the rich and the rich leave and then your countries in the shiter because other people don't want to step up to the plate work for their shitt
Same here! I consider myself an Independent, if I MUST have a political classification. I TRY to watch both sides of American politics. How I have never even HEARD of these papers ??..... I, of course, am being facetious with that question. $$$$ can make any issue slippery enough to be lost. 🤔
What is happening with all the disclosures regarding this mega-dump of documents exposing the the wealthy one percenters not paying their fair share of taxes.. and the Russian oligarchs doing business what’s the Americans in silicon Valley.?? Where’s your big stories?. Or did you get paid off to keep you mouths shut.??! 🤨😏😒🤔
These reporters are heroes. They should be rewarded with all our admiration and every opportunity to freely pursue their efforts to expose these thieving, traitorous world oligarchs. Now let's see if law enforcement and the justice system have any heroes, as well.
It was so interesting to watch the whole process. I had no idea so much went into this. The journalists responsible have my appreciation for the great work they've done.
I'm disheartened by the comments below, because it shows how little faith and stock people put in investigative journalism nowadays. I'm thoroughly impressed by their commitment to privacy and security. They are dedicated to this work and thoroughly picking through the garbage of the financial records, seeing which leads appear fresh at first sniff, and then really picking up the stench of criminality and corruption in others. They don't release raw data directly for the protection of those not implicated in criminal ties. They confirm and corroborate with foreign journalists to gain insight and ensure accuracy. They announce their findings to the parties in question before publication to make them aware of the investigation. These are all the admirable qualities of ethical journalists, not hackneyed bloggers and opinionists who come up with a narrative first and then see what cherry-picked data fits their picture. They have picked up on some very large corporations doing some very questionable things with vast sums of money, and while it seems convenient to pick them out, it's what gives the reader a tangible, identifiable entity to read about. I don't know who the Russian oligarchs are, or the Saudi investors in the Clintons and Bushes, or what the former prime minister of Iceland did while in office, but I can definitely see the harm in companies like Facebook, Google and Apple accepting investments from shell companies owned by authoritarian regimes. We all want greater transparency in government and bank lending. We would all like to know that our leaders and elected officials and even our entertainment stars are working effectively and ethically to prevent abuses to our global finances. Yet here I am reading multiple comments applauding these leeches for successfully avoiding to pay their fair share. That their selfishness and greed are models to be replicated, when the reality is, there's no way any one of us would ever amalgamate that level of wealth that they stash away, and that's entirely the point. We're looking into the pocket books of the 0.001% of the world's population, and it's that small inner sanctum that they wish to preserve while keeping all others out. But they create this illusion that one day, by "hard work" or sheer dumb luck, you could one day aspire to be so wealthy. But it's all a facade. That's what these documents prove - that they haven't earned their wealth, they're stealing it and hoarding it away. An essential part of living in a capitalist democracy is having everyone pay in to the same system, to support our health, our security, our economy and our environment. Part of the contract for accepting the benefits of living in a developed, prosperous nation is that everyone pays a portion of the cost to provide those basic needs and human rights is by paying taxes. And the vast majority of citizens do, but not those who earn the most, and not the corporations who earn money off everybody else. They are breaking the rules of that contract. They should be made to pay for it.
The abstractness of these crimes are why they get away with it. People don't see it a theft because they don't see the connection between what these people did and how it impacts their lives.
The reporters who worked on this seem to be overwhelmed by the amount of data that they came across. Seems likely that there are still a ton of stories in those papers, but piecing it all together is kind of a mind boggling exercise. I think the main takeaway is something most of us already knew: the rich play by their own rules and don't contribute much to society. What's really crazy to me is that so many people do not demand transparency. For example, Trump supporters are perfectly happy to vote for Trump, even though he refuses to release his taxes. This is the kind of stupidity that allows the rich to (easily) get away with not paying their fair share, and have an inside track when it comes to influencing politicians.
Trumps tax records prove nothing other than he knows how to play the game that is the system. He didnt make it, he just knows how to game it. You all act like trump is so bad and biden is so great, they all are crooked thiefs biden is probably even worse we just wont ever get to know the true extent. Trumps ego is the only reason we know what we know, beings he lived his life in the spotlight. I will say i preffered life under Trump better than biden.
The smartest thing the the really rich ever done was create the myth of the good fight for millions upon millions of middle class "respectable people" who "do the right thing" whilst they are living like Neros themselves! 💯💯💯💩
Absolutely. The general consensus among Economists say, when your common man builds up massive debt, you’re back into slavery, economic slavery. We go to work to pay bills, not to make your life better, and that’s 50% of Americans!
If someone tries so hard to stop you from accomplishing something life-changing, what are the chances that you are right? Most likely the absurd ratio is due to a mass of people trying to keep this under control.
I thank God that we have Journalists around the world courageous enough in getting information out to the public. Some of them risk their lives to do what they do. Without them things would be worse than they are. When we get the information, then we have to all come out and do what we are able to do together to check those who are corrupt and get them out of office.
Your local university will have journalism courses, and newspapers run night classes hosted by their staff on citizen journalism, sports journalism, investigative journalism etc. as another source of income for the paper!
You are a journalist man friend that is what brought you here. You are investigative, you're curious and you are a researcher, you could be watching anything right now, but you chose this.
Absolutely inspiring. Sending to my son who I sometimes tease with “you can pursue anything you like in life unless you become a hedge fund manager. Then I may disown you !” 😎😎😎
Funny, you made me chuckle with this comment. On the real side though... you'd probably never know that was the case, if your son didn't want you TO know. 😉
Depends how they get their money. If it's via commerce, then they are job creators. They can be both, and most likely are in this first case, because any company will dodge taxes wherever possible. it's just common sense. If they get their money from other ways, such as drug lords, etc, then they are no benefit to society as a whole, and are just a leach.
No its simple statistic based on vice stories and other videos on the subject. A greater then 50% ratio is reserved for the worst videos. Even the fox news crowd doesn't go that high. If you saw the stats you would see the dislike don't line up with view dates and come from non english speaking countries like vietnam. Very simple statistic and correlation analysis. Some rich kid bought it with his parents money novice video is over 50%. Simple.
I was not paid to vote this down. This piece is bordering on propaganda. I intensely dislike Trump and his family but this story has an agenda. It focuses on three Russiasn Oligarchs and Russian this and Russian that with very little focus on where the $Trillions in just one hedge fund came from. There are other oligarchs much richer and more influential than those three Russian minnows. Maybe (not accusing them) these richest families in the world might want to hide their vast fortunes: Walton, Mars, Koch, Wertheimer, Cargill, MacMillan, Dumas, Johnson, Hearst, Hoffman-Oeri, Bezos, Gates, Cox, Dassault, Jobs, Thomson, Lauder, Rockefeller and Rothschild. There are 2600 billionaires in world yet VICE, of which Disney owns 26%, seems to think the Russian link to Cushner is than most important aspect off this story. Ignoring the collective massive tax evasion that we the ppl are paying for. Get a clue, use some critical thinking.
I voted this down because it went absolute;y nowhere. They had nothing, thats why the whole thing died in the ass just like this doco. Just lots of innuendo and gossip. The usual Trump and russian bogey men. So stale. No mention of the top 0.01 percent who no one ever talks about. Vice lost its edge years ago.
I sit here as a utility worker and watch this, I understand the underhandedness and basically, backstabbing, that is the world between journalism and and politics. I just wonder is my path of working my blue collar job for probably my entire life, any worse than the stress and anxiety of this world
I could only wonder. the robber barons and venture capitalists of the world live in fear of the ICIJ and other independent investigators exposing their corruption and greed for what it is, something they only see as normal. I have friends living in project housing making less than $20,000/yr working as many PT retail mall jobs as they can get, and they live in fear of where their next meal might come from. same kinds of crippling stresses, but for vastly different reasons
Its so sad for a lot of us because now we know that many all of that money that is just sitting in an offshore account could have instead be used for taxes. Taxes that not only improve our infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc, but would also lead to better jobs and standards of living for all of those sectors. The middle and lower class wouldnt have to pay high taxes if the billionaires actually contributed to the taxes. They will probably never use most of that money which is the saddest part. People are starving on the street while money is just stockpiling offshore.
ALL of it. And then... They'll just make more money... This system makes so much sense... Actually they will continue to amass riches, which doesn't really change anything for any of them... The average person in the entire world will continue to possess less and less things, until we are all officially considered slaves and toys.
I find it amazing that society views anyone that hoards stuff as mentally damaged. Until they're hoarding wealth, then not only is it considered healthy, but you're almost crazy if you don't.
Equality is a modern western myth that came about during the enlightenment. Most of human history didn’t exactly value equality as a virtue so I don’t know where you get that from.
Nathaniel Akingba it should be a prison sentence. It is not legal. Of course the rich get away with it. They will never turn on themselves, they are all pigs.
chas ames Why? This is nothing new. The EU has tax shelters operating within their jurisdiction and everyone has known it. People still line up for iPhones while that company stores taxable income offshore. Perhaps some of those same people are then critical of the disrepair of their local roads. If you have a problem with a politician doing business overseas or keeping table income overseas, then you should have a problem with Apple doing the same. Use your vote and your wallet.
Unfortunately if it's made public it's usually complete disinformation. I'd like to think there really was honest journalism. I know there are honest journalist but their honesty has to go through many filters before it's conveyed to the public.
That was absolutely incredible. You can't be anything but outraged. Please,watch it in it's entirety with an open mind- especially from 40:00 to the end.
If you paid attention, it’s just a hit piece aimed at Trump, asked on what they concede is a complete lack of evidence and speculation. This was revamped to be a hit piece. Take a few nobody’s and let them rant with nonsense, and it’s “news” and gets treated as fact.
Thanks for confirming to us you're a trump's person. This show u never finished watching the video. This investigation has evidence and facts while you are here ranting off fake news to distract us. Your fav MO eh?
Speculation: If I were a billionaire or a government, how hard would it be to bankroll a series of youtube accounts with 100 employees from Africa in order to 'thumb down' videos which bring them bad press? It seems ludicrous to think one can't buy public opinion. It Odd proportion of thumbsdown considering that your typical right or left wing voter should value the lack of political bias in this video. It's mostly a blow toward all immoral superwealthy equally.
To be honest with you the hardest thing to swallow is how much money this people own and meanwhile there’s millions of people homeless …. I can’t understand how this people genuinely sleep without feeling guilt
Broadcast news is a more daily function. Most of them don't focus on huge year-long investigations. They leave the newspapers and independent journalists to do all of the hard digging for huge stories while they just cover the main points because that's all they can get into on tv.
The amount of time and money that goes into this kind of reporting would not work for a cable news model. That is why cable news bases most of their pieces off of newspapers.
It's amazing information, they mentioned millions of documents, I'm just imagining how do you go through so much info and how much ppl are involved in this fraud.
The world is run by a network of good old boys, who divide the resources and wealth among themselves and their minions. There are millions of people round the worlds taking some part in this scam.
All these people in these files are the very ones openly bribing the folks we elect to protect us against this stuff and it's happening at an ever increasing rate!!!!
If you had enough money to hire the law firms that advise the rich on their taxes, you could do what they are doing...it's legal in the tax code. That's what the lawyers get paid huge sums to poor over and find.
You know who will go down for this. The nobodies. A few people will end up prison but the main officials, the big wheelers and dealers. They will get off scott free with maybe a few fines IF that
I think they also messed with the like to dislike ratio of this video, because its is extremely low for the quality of this documentary. Keep up the good work Vice!
Right wingers that think everything is fake news. Americans are very clueless when it comes to politics. We don't have a bipartisan government anymore so things are way screwed up.
Because whole video is based on Trump cabinet, so its not actual journalism, but silent bias behind cover of "leak". Even in European journalist heads Trump lives rent free. I have read alot of information related to this leak and can say that this video could have been about thousands of other more interesting topic related to the leak, bashar al asad, terrorist funding, china ccp party, germany and merkel, democratic candidates and their offshore funds, you name it, but no, whole video focused and try to glue russians and trump together. Pathetic yellow journalism, I would dare to say propaganda campaign.
@@hukumbra Thats my complaint about this too. I know its a big deal Trump is involved, but Im sure there are other big named in here that are democrats too that didn't get covered.
Yup, Me too. Dudes said, this is nothing. We have real problems. Its because they know that their is NOTHING they can do about this. This is a waste of time to them.
ikr? i dont get it...at all...like how does something this big just blow over so easily?? ...the only thing I can think of is ppl shrugging it off as "oh,...we bEeN kNeW"????? but this was confirmation tho, sooooooo ? ? ?
BeamingSplendor - You nailed it. Just like slavery was not about racism in the US. It evolved into that, but it didn't begin with that. In fact, most of our divisions are about trying to gain the advantage over perceived competitors - from the individual to the group. People wanted to make a profit on the backs of a reliable work force and they turned out to be West Africans. They tried it with others, but the agrarian Africans offered a perfect solution: sun safe skin, mostly healthy populations and an abundant resource. it's cold, indifferent and immoral, because profit was the bottom line. It still is. Nationalism is not a thing.
this makes me want to cry. I’m trying to a get a fraction of any of these amounts to help sick people, and they just leave it sitting in accounts doing nothing.... makes your blood boil for sure. They rather express mental illness than help people
Money that couldn't possibly be ever spent.. very sad It would change whole countries vision for what's capable in future . With companies paying legitimate tax bill the very infrastructure could be rebuilt access the globe ..
They're most likely all company issue computers. Mac's are really common in the programming world as well because all the big companies hand them out like candy. Other than that it's mostly because they're a status symbol and people are retarded so they buy them. As far as the ability to hack them it's as easy as hacking any other computer. Any sufficiently motivated person can hack into a system. It's only a matter of making the amount if motivation needed to get in high enough to weed out 90% of attackers
Macbook pros are common, user friendly for non tech folks, off the shelf and can handle a heavier workload than some windows crap. It makes sense, most professionals use Mac
Flat tax is regressive, hits the poor harder than the wealthy. Progressive tax is the way to go. The more you make the more tax assessed. Deductions for moneys reinvested in the economy either through salaries, payouts to employees or in company infrastructure and the like.
Money should not be this complicated. Off-Shore Bank Accounts, Tax Havens, the Cayman Islands. Trying to avoid paying any taxes is like living in an apartment with 2 roommates and not paying your share of the rent when it’s due. Like why are you trying so hard to not pay taxes? We literally all have to do it. So pay more because there better off. Some pay less because they worse off. But everyone pays taxes in this Country. Why do you think you don’t have to? Brad Pitt pays taxes. LeBron James pays taxes. Drake pays taxes. He’s Jewish. He probably does his own taxes. But see, the biggest names in the world have to pay taxes. You’re not bigger than Drake. So why would you not pay your share? It’s not like the money is going down the toilet. It gets redistributed throughout the Country. It’s not that hard. Just pay your taxes…
Create a Chaos, Dismantle the current system. What next? Any alternative system will work? Or have worked? That is the first question need to be answered. Revolution can came later after this.
Good investigative work! I wonder if all of the reporters are being nonpartisan in their reporting and will not just investigate current administration, but previous as well.
This is to me real journalism. This is what we need more of not who the hell Miley Cyrus is engaged to or that she stuck her tongue out at. That and the light and the insatiable appetite for sports is all the distraction. I want to know what's going on with the people who run the framework of our lives and what they're up to.
The investigation, shepherded by the same team that released the Panama Papers, offers unprecedented insight into the clients and business activities related to a Bermuda-based offshore services law firm called Appleby.
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Who is going out of their way to give you more than your share of dislikes? If you at Vice want to meet a legend of the AIM (60's) and a person from wounded knee LMK. It won't come free and it won't cost money. 's long as the river runs' you figure it out... Also your message never gets accross to spanish speaking america, that is sad.
-B@SS_6
VICE News so rich f****** hide their money from the masses that didn't earn that money interesting well last time I don't like socialism and I don't like communism so you can all go f*** yourself
VICE Ne
Well vice I like alot of ur programs but I'm done watching because I'm tired of the Left leaning stance
VICE News Reporters are the highest form of hero in today's "polter-zeit-geist". As in the purity requirements of the priesthood, journalist media are the only ones capable of exorcisms on the corruption possession of our power constructs. It's a freakin infestation. Cooler than ghost-busters. (I just adore the high tech Venn Diagram App!)
2-years later, the people of this planet still have never pursued this as it should have been, and we’re currently in a political and environmental hellscape. Kudos.
2 more years later.... still nothing.
We need to organize locally, for a collective goal, otherwise they'll get better at screwing us all over
@@joeybanks18 the problem is the ficus they have they only look at Trump so we get divided this should also focus on all the billionaires and some corrupt corporate democrats and republicans.
These papers did name quite a few people, but I feel that basically every single rich person (hence anyone who could really start an investigation) does this. it's so widespread that any investigation would touch home for most if not all involved
@@Th3Watch3r your name is ominous with that comment lol
Crazy how this never became a big deal it just fell out of the news cycle
You're free to remind everyone
Not crazy but very obviously media can't take bribes AND show the holes in the elites plan
@@johndope446 surrrrrrrrre they cannot
Sean Mehegan Typical
Because Trump wasn’t guilty. If it had good info on him, it would have exploded into the scene.
to all honest hard working reporters working toward justice, demanding transparency , and spreading intell and knowledge thank you for your service
Yhhh because they don't have an agenda against anyone being accused
Imagine being as brainwashed as the other commenters in this post
@@thomasdietz-wpm1c793 Everyone has an agenda. Literally everyone. So, what’s your point? The better question to ask yourself, will this agenda or that agenda help everyday Americans as a collective, as Jesus taught, and not just the top 10% of Americans. You do realize that we’re in the second gilded age. This gilded age is massively worse now then it was pre-1929 Great Depression, aka the collapse of capitalism. That’s how wealthy these people are right now. God help us.
the reporters in russia, egypt etc are particularly respectable. they are literally risking their lives because we know what the leaders there do to quell dissent. keep up the good work you guys are heroes.
But Mexican journalists are the OG. They risk even their cousin's lives.
Well it isn't safe for US journalists either. Hell, the CIA is hellbent to torture and kill Assange, so imagine what they'd do to actual US citizens. Why don't they? 'Murcans are too stupid for anything to penetrate their race hate and loathsome fundamentalist/fascism.
@@westsidesmitty1 I wouldn’t say we are stupid I believe apart of the issue is the people that have huge platforms in the USA 🇺🇸 are not those apart of the “movement” but are apart of the propaganda machine.
Unless you're a really high profile journalist like Assange, then the west doesn't seem so civilized either.
Depends on what you consider a reporter. True investigative journalists in those countries deserve mad respect.
8:18 "this is what journalism is about, to inform the public"
Public re-elects the same guy as prime minister who resigned for his involvement in Panama papers.
They also dont have a choice.. most of the time eveeg name on a ballot is already as you described
Sorta why all votes shouldn't count
The panama papers and the paradise papers is one of the reason why i laugh when every time i hear western govts accuse Africans govt of curruption. Even the queen of england hidding her money
That's cause the whole idea of taxes are theft that simple. Taxes are in it's essence are corruption at it's finest.
The queen does not need to hide her money and the queen is a mere figurehead. There also is a difference between hiding money and diversifying risk, safeguarding property, and asset/wealth protection.
Dan Jakmel great point
@@philgraham8213 Tax is the means to control the public.
@@somerandomarmydude Tax is means to control the public and law enforcement too.
What's sadder than the fact that this won't sufficiently enrage people about the tax evasaion to take decisive action, is that most people simply don't know about this.
Adam Bechtol Worse... many americans have been brainwashed to believe it's 'fake news'
I think you massively oversimplify the issue by using a single sentence and words like "brainwashed" and "fake news". The research I've done leads me to the conclusion that this and the Panama Papers is the global elite fighting with each other. This definitely appears to be a managed leak as apposed to independent people just trying to stand up for what's right.
I have to admit the Great Britain and other EU nations seem to be much more experienced in deceiving experienced people than the U.S. is. When I see the U.K. doing questionable news stories, I usually am compelled to research further and further & often get lost in the maze of directions it leads. When the U.S. do this, it often takes lass than 15 minutes to find the numerous connections to the rogue elements in our non-military intelligence agencies and the usual suspects in the private sector. Britannia has a few centuries more experience in hiding things from it's people and it shows, they are much better at it than the U.S. is.
I don't have time to get into this thing extensively since I don't do this stuff for a living but do be perfectly candid, I still try to look at all these "tax cheats" as individuals. I don't really care if people find loopholes in tax laws because I'm very anarcho-capitalist. At the same time, I'm very anti-fascist, in that, if someone gets special treatment from a government, which benefits them financially, I still consider them as owing a debt to the society in which that government resides. So I would look upon how much they pay, much more critically. In case this is confusing, to elaborate on my interpretation of "fascism", Mussolini once described fascism as "corporatism" which is what we refer to today as crony-capitalism.
Adam Bechtol taxation is theft with a gun that's all taxation is and you keep on taxing the rich and the rich leave and then your countries in the shiter because other people don't want to step up to the plate work for their shitt
Kyle Wathen stupid
Three yrs of spyin. Since before election
.zero russia eveidence why is vice trying to propgandize me....
Just saw this after 3 years didn't even know Paradise papers exists 😭
Same here! I consider myself an Independent, if I MUST have a political classification. I TRY to watch both sides of American politics. How I have
never even HEARD of these papers ??..... I, of course, am being facetious with that question. $$$$ can make any issue slippery enough to be lost. 🤔
Yeah this is crazy that this was not more publicized…
I heard about this from NPR.
Hey, it's been a few years. How about some follow up on this story? We'd like that, please!
The Fincen leaks are essentially a spiritual successor.
Edit: Now, there's been a literal successor: The Pandora Papers.
They still laundering money. Nothings changed.
Not one arrest...
Ya.. what’s going on
What is happening with all the disclosures regarding this mega-dump of documents exposing the the wealthy one percenters not paying their fair share of taxes.. and the Russian oligarchs doing business what’s the Americans in silicon Valley.?? Where’s your big stories?. Or did you get paid off to keep you mouths shut.??! 🤨😏😒🤔
These reporters are heroes. They should be rewarded with all our admiration and every opportunity to freely pursue their efforts to expose these thieving, traitorous world oligarchs. Now let's see if law enforcement and the justice system have any heroes, as well.
It was so interesting to watch the whole process. I had no idea so much went into this. The journalists responsible have my appreciation for the great work they've done.
In the end just more red herring journalism or more likely pure propaganda.
agreed
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I'm disheartened by the comments below, because it shows how little faith and stock people put in investigative journalism nowadays. I'm thoroughly impressed by their commitment to privacy and security. They are dedicated to this work and thoroughly picking through the garbage of the financial records, seeing which leads appear fresh at first sniff, and then really picking up the stench of criminality and corruption in others. They don't release raw data directly for the protection of those not implicated in criminal ties. They confirm and corroborate with foreign journalists to gain insight and ensure accuracy. They announce their findings to the parties in question before publication to make them aware of the investigation. These are all the admirable qualities of ethical journalists, not hackneyed bloggers and opinionists who come up with a narrative first and then see what cherry-picked data fits their picture. They have picked up on some very large corporations doing some very questionable things with vast sums of money, and while it seems convenient to pick them out, it's what gives the reader a tangible, identifiable entity to read about. I don't know who the Russian oligarchs are, or the Saudi investors in the Clintons and Bushes, or what the former prime minister of Iceland did while in office, but I can definitely see the harm in companies like Facebook, Google and Apple accepting investments from shell companies owned by authoritarian regimes. We all want greater transparency in government and bank lending. We would all like to know that our leaders and elected officials and even our entertainment stars are working effectively and ethically to prevent abuses to our global finances.
Yet here I am reading multiple comments applauding these leeches for successfully avoiding to pay their fair share. That their selfishness and greed are models to be replicated, when the reality is, there's no way any one of us would ever amalgamate that level of wealth that they stash away, and that's entirely the point. We're looking into the pocket books of the 0.001% of the world's population, and it's that small inner sanctum that they wish to preserve while keeping all others out. But they create this illusion that one day, by "hard work" or sheer dumb luck, you could one day aspire to be so wealthy. But it's all a facade. That's what these documents prove - that they haven't earned their wealth, they're stealing it and hoarding it away.
An essential part of living in a capitalist democracy is having everyone pay in to the same system, to support our health, our security, our economy and our environment. Part of the contract for accepting the benefits of living in a developed, prosperous nation is that everyone pays a portion of the cost to provide those basic needs and human rights is by paying taxes. And the vast majority of citizens do, but not those who earn the most, and not the corporations who earn money off everybody else. They are breaking the rules of that contract. They should be made to pay for it.
Well said👏🏾
Preach. Investigative journalism takes a lot of work and a lot of risk.
Absolutely agree.
The abstractness of these crimes are why they get away with it. People don't see it a theft because they don't see the connection between what these people did and how it impacts their lives.
The reporters who worked on this seem to be overwhelmed by the amount of data that they came across. Seems likely that there are still a ton of stories in those papers, but piecing it all together is kind of a mind boggling exercise.
I think the main takeaway is something most of us already knew: the rich play by their own rules and don't contribute much to society. What's really crazy to me is that so many people do not demand transparency. For example, Trump supporters are perfectly happy to vote for Trump, even though he refuses to release his taxes. This is the kind of stupidity that allows the rich to (easily) get away with not paying their fair share, and have an inside track when it comes to influencing politicians.
Trumps tax records prove nothing other than he knows how to play the game that is the system. He didnt make it, he just knows how to game it. You all act like trump is so bad and biden is so great, they all are crooked thiefs biden is probably even worse we just wont ever get to know the true extent. Trumps ego is the only reason we know what we know, beings he lived his life in the spotlight. I will say i preffered life under Trump better than biden.
The smartest thing the the really rich ever done was create the myth of the good fight for millions upon millions of middle class "respectable people" who "do the right thing" whilst they are living like Neros themselves! 💯💯💯💩
Absolutely. The general consensus among Economists say, when your common man builds up massive debt, you’re back into slavery, economic slavery. We go to work to pay bills, not to make your life better, and that’s 50% of Americans!
Interesting. Hmmmmm
2 years later, nothing happened to wilbur ross or the queen
Kuddos to all these reporters/investigators
16:00 Bobo from O&A.
Do you mean Kudos the Greek word for praise?.
Why so many dislikes? This is one of those Watergate level exposé. It's great journalism. They deserve more likes.
Guan Sim Teh perhaps vested interests used their influence? If pubescent runts can do it...
I did have the same reaction as you tho:)
If someone tries so hard to stop you from accomplishing something life-changing, what are the chances that you are right? Most likely the absurd ratio is due to a mass of people trying to keep this under control.
Russian trolls, fake profiles... those are putting dislikes in everything that hurts Putin
perhaps they are disliking the fact that these elites are getting away with this.
This is amazing. Vice did a great job showing the hard work behind journalism.
I thank God that we have Journalists around the world courageous enough in getting information out to the public. Some of them risk their lives to do what they do. Without them things would be worse than they are. When we get the information, then we have to all come out and do what we are able to do together to check those who are corrupt and get them out of office.
The Russian newsroom is so badass. Cigarettes, hard hitting stories, cognac and swag. I want a documentary about those guys.
How they kept this investigation secret is to be admired.
Legitimately what is the health status of these reporters? How many have died in "high speed car accidents" or "suicides"?
at least one journalist was killed - by a car bomb. her name was Daphne Caruana Galizia
If you are not filthy rich this story should piss you off.
i'm quite surprised at how unaware the general public is. i'm surprised the public is not raging, rioting, and most importantly revolting.
Ya but lets be real.. if you were filthy rich you would do the same thing.
Kevin C its a brave new world. As long as the masses have snapchat, Instagram and fast food they don't care.
turdmaflurd when your that rich there is no need to not pay your taxes
Pretty sure this story will piss off a few of the filthy rich, maybe for other reasons though.
I wish I was a journalist.
Story’s like this one needs to be heard by everyone so things can change.
Be one now! Talk about this on social media
It’s relevant still today
Your local university will have journalism courses, and newspapers run night classes hosted by their staff on citizen journalism, sports journalism, investigative journalism etc. as another source of income for the paper!
You are a journalist man friend that is what brought you here. You are investigative, you're curious and you are a researcher, you could be watching anything right now, but you chose this.
@@Lxoxo333 ...0
Absolutely inspiring. Sending to my son who I sometimes tease with “you can pursue anything you like in life unless you become a hedge fund manager. Then I may disown you !” 😎😎😎
Funny, you made me chuckle with this comment. On the real side though... you'd probably never know that was the case, if your son didn't want you TO know. 😉
Oh to have a non capitalist, non crypto bro dad
But I thought Rich people were job creators not tax dodgers
bruh it will trickle down, trust me lol!!!!!
Packys Liquor store Logically those aren't mutually exclusive.
Never have never will. The job creators are middle class ? cause they buy things, that need to be fabricated .. In the end ,Think Marie Antoinette
Depends how they get their money. If it's via commerce, then they are job creators. They can be both, and most likely are in this first case, because any company will dodge taxes wherever possible. it's just common sense.
If they get their money from other ways, such as drug lords, etc, then they are no benefit to society as a whole, and are just a leach.
I love the "job creators" narrative. One their best of con's in history.
How can anyone say this is OK? Hiding money is not OK. Think of those who could use it.
*5.3K dislikes? Someone spent some money on down votes*
Dave B you have bought into the propaganda machine, believing you know more than everyone else so it must be paid opposition. This is a hit piece
No its simple statistic based on vice stories and other videos on the subject. A greater then 50% ratio is reserved for the worst videos. Even the fox news crowd doesn't go that high. If you saw the stats you would see the dislike don't line up with view dates and come from non english speaking countries like vietnam. Very simple statistic and correlation analysis. Some rich kid bought it with his parents money novice video is over 50%. Simple.
I was not paid to vote this down. This piece is bordering on propaganda. I intensely dislike Trump and his family but this story has an agenda. It focuses on three Russiasn Oligarchs and Russian this and Russian that with very little focus on where the $Trillions in just one hedge fund came from. There are other oligarchs much richer and more influential than those three Russian minnows. Maybe (not accusing them) these richest families in the world might want to hide their vast fortunes: Walton, Mars, Koch, Wertheimer, Cargill, MacMillan, Dumas, Johnson, Hearst, Hoffman-Oeri, Bezos, Gates, Cox, Dassault, Jobs, Thomson, Lauder, Rockefeller and Rothschild. There are 2600 billionaires in world yet VICE, of which Disney owns 26%, seems to think the Russian link to Cushner is than most important aspect off this story. Ignoring the collective massive tax evasion that we the ppl are paying for. Get a clue, use some critical thinking.
I voted this down because it went absolute;y nowhere. They had nothing, thats why the whole thing died in the ass just like this doco. Just lots of innuendo and gossip. The usual Trump and russian bogey men. So stale. No mention of the top 0.01 percent who no one ever talks about. Vice lost its edge years ago.
Paid people by trump and Russian in Ghana, and Nigeria , commenting all over even in FB, you can't imagine how evil this people had already gone
conclusion two years after publication: nothing to see here, business as usual
Yup, who prosecutes the rich and world leaders.
Thanks to the whistleblower for confirming what most of us intrinsically knew 👏
Now this is real News
I sit here as a utility worker and watch this, I understand the underhandedness and basically, backstabbing, that is the world between journalism and and politics. I just wonder is my path of working my blue collar job for probably my entire life, any worse than the stress and anxiety of this world
The pyramid has a top. A pyramid resting on the bones of people like you and I.
oh Alex ~
I could only wonder. the robber barons and venture capitalists of the world live in fear of the ICIJ and other independent investigators exposing their corruption and greed for what it is, something they only see as normal. I have friends living in project housing making less than $20,000/yr working as many PT retail mall jobs as they can get, and they live in fear of where their next meal might come from. same kinds of crippling stresses, but for vastly different reasons
lets rob banks or start a revolution
Its so sad for a lot of us because now we know that many all of that money that is just sitting in an offshore account could have instead be used for taxes. Taxes that not only improve our infrastructure, education, healthcare, etc, but would also lead to better jobs and standards of living for all of those sectors. The middle and lower class wouldnt have to pay high taxes if the billionaires actually contributed to the taxes. They will probably never use most of that money which is the saddest part. People are starving on the street while money is just stockpiling offshore.
Just how much money will satisfy the rich?
Kirti Rajya Lakshmi Purawat all of it....
the better question is how much scrutiny will we give them.
there is no such thing. the more people have the more they want!
About $3.50
ALL of it. And then... They'll just make more money... This system makes so much sense... Actually they will continue to amass riches, which doesn't really change anything for any of them... The average person in the entire world will continue to possess less and less things, until we are all officially considered slaves and toys.
I find it amazing that society views anyone that hoards stuff as mentally damaged. Until they're hoarding wealth, then not only is it considered healthy, but you're almost crazy if you don't.
Thank you. We (humans) know we live a lie. Equality is worst than anytime in history. We need reporters like you all. 🌸 Namaste
Equality is a modern western myth that came about during the enlightenment. Most of human history didn’t exactly value equality as a virtue so I don’t know where you get that from.
@@StoneEdge555 Equality - all folks being equal, equal social status, it's not a virtue. LOL 😀 Equality is a global directive.
Brilliant piece of journalism here vice, bring back the days where every story was as compelling as this!
Dom Robinson I absolutely agree! I was beginning to lose faith. The sad part is this piece has been up for nearly two weeks with only 124,000 views.
Kushner always reminds me of a young Voldemort
oh my god, yes. the first time i saw him i thought he looked like Tom Riddle!
Nathaniel Akingba it should be a prison sentence. It is not legal. Of course the rich get away with it. They will never turn on themselves, they are all pigs.
More like Damian/Demon from The Omen.
He looks like a little B***h, there is more dog in a dog bisket, than there is man in him..
yep...and Steven miller looks and acts like Goebbels.... great team they have there..... grrrrrrr....
6 minutes in and this is already my favorite Vice story.
chas ames Why? This is nothing new. The EU has tax shelters operating within their jurisdiction and everyone has known it. People still line up for iPhones while that company stores taxable income offshore. Perhaps some of those same people are then critical of the disrepair of their local roads.
If you have a problem with a politician doing business overseas or keeping table income overseas, then you should have a problem with Apple doing the same. Use your vote and your wallet.
Very well produced.
+R T
Boycott Apple.
We thank you
Aw, shucks. Thanks.
this and 'truth in media' has convinced me that there is still real journalism in the world, not just puppet companys.
Unfortunately if it's made public it's usually complete disinformation. I'd like to think there really was honest journalism. I know there are honest journalist but their honesty has to go through many filters before it's conveyed to the public.
Vice is pure propaganda all rich mfers hide their money
This is the fakest Journalism I have ever seen. This is a complete propaganda campaign funded by Biden
@@redalertwagers LOL Biden's campaign funded "propaganda journalism" that was started by German media in 2017 or even earlier? 😂😂😂
Why has NOTHING been done about this?!?!
That was absolutely incredible. You can't be anything but outraged. Please,watch it in it's entirety with an open mind- especially from 40:00 to the end.
Fabulous reporting, thank you VICE/HBO.
This VICE. This is what you need to do! Thank you
2022, the Panama & Paradise papers are more important than ever.
3 years later.. all forgotten. Tragic
Just why are there so many dislikes to this video? Is it to protest against the rich who evade taxes? You guys are doing it wrong!
Astor Tran trump's people
If you paid attention, it’s just a hit piece aimed at Trump, asked on what they concede is a complete lack of evidence and speculation. This was revamped to be a hit piece. Take a few nobody’s and let them rant with nonsense, and it’s “news” and gets treated as fact.
Thanks for confirming to us you're a trump's person. This show u never finished watching the video. This investigation has evidence and facts while you are here ranting off fake news to distract us. Your fav MO eh?
Speculation: If I were a billionaire or a government, how hard would it be to bankroll a series of youtube accounts with 100 employees from Africa in order to 'thumb down' videos which bring them bad press?
It seems ludicrous to think one can't buy public opinion. It Odd proportion of thumbsdown considering that your typical right or left wing voter should value the lack of political bias in this video.
It's mostly a blow toward all immoral superwealthy equally.
Probably the dislikes are due to the fact that this just came and went. Nothing was done about it. The usual, swept under the carpet!
Thanks to all the journalists! Keep up the good work!!!!
"Would you like some congac?"
"sure."
We sure do live in a world full of greed 😠
To be honest with you the hardest thing to swallow is how much money this people own and meanwhile there’s millions of people homeless …. I can’t understand how this people genuinely sleep without feeling guilt
The homeless industry makes liberal politicians rich
Amazing work!!!💪🎯👏👏👏
Thanks, Christy!
why is all the research and investigation carried out by newspaper and independent journalists, but no one from cable/broadcast news?
cable news are entertainment segment. They will make some false accusation on these facts by reading the reports for 5 mins.
Broadcast news is a more daily function. Most of them don't focus on huge year-long investigations. They leave the newspapers and independent journalists to do all of the hard digging for huge stories while they just cover the main points because that's all they can get into on tv.
Because cable/broadcast news is owned by the very parties this is about, the people manipulating you and dulling your senses
Television is dying. The internet killed it
The amount of time and money that goes into this kind of reporting would not work for a cable news model. That is why cable news bases most of their pieces off of newspapers.
It's amazing information, they mentioned millions of documents, I'm just imagining how do you go through so much info and how much ppl are involved in this fraud.
The world is run by a network of good old boys, who divide the resources and wealth among themselves and their minions. There are millions of people round the worlds taking some part in this scam.
Wow and none of those people named in the Panama papers faced repercussions .
The leader of Angola was jailed. And the rich daughter of Azerbaijan imprisoned in UK
two years later, my question would be: "AND?"
"this is gonna be big. like snowden. we should do a doc like him too! maybe we'll get an oscar! hold my beer while i call my journalist friend'
Hopefully this will lead to persecution of tax evaders, money launderers and financial criminals in general.
All these people in these files are the very ones openly bribing the folks we elect to protect us against this stuff and it's happening at an ever increasing rate!!!!
arslongavitabrebis or even better, the prosecution of tax evaders.
If you had enough money to hire the law firms that advise the rich on their taxes, you could do what they are doing...it's legal in the tax code. That's what the lawyers get paid huge sums to poor over and find.
You know who will go down for this. The nobodies. A few people will end up prison but the main officials, the big wheelers and dealers. They will get off scott free with maybe a few fines IF that
This is the greats investigative reporting I have ever seen. Thank you all . Sharing .
Vice and Frontline are currently the most investigative reporting happening now. I salute these journalists.
I think they also messed with the like to dislike ratio of this video, because its is extremely low for the quality of this documentary. Keep up the good work Vice!
Why does this video have so many dislikes?
I dont know, but im curious too.
Russian computer bots is one explanation I have heard about.
Right wingers that think everything is fake news. Americans are very clueless when it comes to politics. We don't have a bipartisan government anymore so things are way screwed up.
Because whole video is based on Trump cabinet, so its not actual journalism, but silent bias behind cover of "leak". Even in European journalist heads Trump lives rent free. I have read alot of information related to this leak and can say that this video could have been about thousands of other more interesting topic related to the leak, bashar al asad, terrorist funding, china ccp party, germany and merkel, democratic candidates and their offshore funds, you name it, but no, whole video focused and try to glue russians and trump together. Pathetic yellow journalism, I would dare to say propaganda campaign.
@@hukumbra Thats my complaint about this too. I know its a big deal Trump is involved, but Im sure there are other big named in here that are democrats too that didn't get covered.
I hope that Russian kid doesn't get merked by his Government
Ruben Foster by the look of his eyes he's been dead for years
Ruben Foster
Why would he? You are so brainwashed by western media of mass distraction.
that is so incredibly sad..
fatguy innalittlecoat down goes Russian kid shot in Moscow parking lot
Agreed
That was incredible nice work.
lol this entire video doubles as an ad for Apple computers.
These journalists are so brave and intrepid. Enough said.
Thank You
Great Video Vice, keep it up!!
My favorite was the Russian journalists.
smoking cigs like badasses like in 90 movies
Yup, Me too. Dudes said, this is nothing. We have real problems. Its because they know that their is NOTHING they can do about this. This is a waste of time to them.
Thank you vice for the interesting behind the scenes and to the team of the Süddeutsche newspaper and public broadcast here in Germany.
Great reporting!! Keep it up!!
Not a Trump supporter, but also in the Paradise Papers, there is a board director on the Obama foundation in these revelations.
Anyone who is hiding money is wrong. Rep, Dem - doesn't matter.
TheBezela this piece heavily implies that only the Republicans are corrupt.
Someone delete this comment, quick!
We don't want to piss off our DNC / Soros masters!
You know that Saudi prince that was just arrested? He paid for Obama to go to Harvard.
Ime, there's a Democrat which is heavily criticized here as well.
Lol i love that dudes analogy at 5:40
Really good, congratulations to these journalists. Even if there's no real fall out they should be proud of themselves.
Hold the press. Politicians are corrupt? SHOCKER
How is this not the biggest story ever?
"It's the age of the leak" ...Beautiful time to be alive.
These thiefs have blood on their hands...third world blood...of the poorest and most deprived. That is unforgivable
I can bet the 5,000 dislikes are from those being exposed.
its 2022, and the gravity of this story never caught on. Unreal
ikr? i dont get it...at all...like how does something this big just blow over so easily?? ...the only thing I can think of is ppl shrugging it off as "oh,...we bEeN kNeW"????? but this was confirmation tho, sooooooo ? ? ?
Thank you Vice news for sharing this.👍🏾👍🏾
Thank you so much for going through the pains to get this information to the people.
this wont change anything.. people with power nowadays are untouchables
people far outnumber the "untouchables"
nowadays? they always have been.
So true
act and share this information, at least to your network
not fucking true. if there were as many views on this as there were in one of Miley cyrus' videos, we could actually change shit.
What a fascinating documentary! Would love to work for these offshore firms!
Excellent reporting.
Imagine going through that much work and Americans don't even care.
Not just citizens of the USA, I suspect it is true for those of us from the rest of the globe.
So did y'all ever find the "smoking gun",😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
@4:46 That's because the world is a business. It was never about political ideologies.
BeamingSplendor - You nailed it.
Just like slavery was not about racism in the US. It evolved into that, but it didn't begin with that. In fact, most of our divisions are about trying to gain the advantage over perceived competitors - from the individual to the group.
People wanted to make a profit on the backs of a reliable work force and they turned out to be West Africans.
They tried it with others, but the agrarian Africans offered a perfect solution: sun safe skin, mostly healthy populations and an abundant resource. it's cold, indifferent and immoral, because profit was the bottom line. It still is. Nationalism is not a thing.
Amazing work
Thank you!
The effort is amazing.
How do we know some of these reporters aren’t intelligence or their computers aren’t compromised 🤷🏻♂️
this makes me want to cry. I’m trying to a get a fraction of any of these amounts to help sick people, and they just leave it sitting in accounts doing nothing.... makes your blood boil for sure. They rather express mental illness than help people
Money that couldn't possibly be ever spent.. very sad
It would change whole countries vision for what's capable in future . With companies paying legitimate tax bill the very infrastructure could be rebuilt access the globe ..
Observation: they all use Macs.
Hard to hack.
Not anymore they write viruses for Macs
They're most likely all company issue computers. Mac's are really common in the programming world as well because all the big companies hand them out like candy. Other than that it's mostly because they're a status symbol and people are retarded so they buy them. As far as the ability to hack them it's as easy as hacking any other computer. Any sufficiently motivated person can hack into a system. It's only a matter of making the amount if motivation needed to get in high enough to weed out 90% of attackers
Macbook pros are common, user friendly for non tech folks, off the shelf and can handle a heavier workload than some windows crap. It makes sense, most professionals use Mac
It's still ironic
Scream "Flat Tax" at every politician, constantly.
Flat tax is regressive, hits the poor harder than the wealthy. Progressive tax is the way to go. The more you make the more tax assessed. Deductions for moneys reinvested in the economy either through salaries, payouts to employees or in company infrastructure and the like.
Money should not be this complicated. Off-Shore Bank Accounts, Tax Havens, the Cayman Islands. Trying to avoid paying any taxes is like living in an apartment with 2 roommates and not paying your share of the rent when it’s due. Like why are you trying so hard to not pay taxes? We literally all have to do it. So pay more because there better off. Some pay less because they worse off. But everyone pays taxes in this Country. Why do you think you don’t have to? Brad Pitt pays taxes. LeBron James pays taxes. Drake pays taxes. He’s Jewish. He probably does his own taxes. But see, the biggest names in the world have to pay taxes. You’re not bigger than Drake. So why would you not pay your share? It’s not like the money is going down the toilet. It gets redistributed throughout the Country. It’s not that hard. Just pay your taxes…
4 years later and these people are still completely unaffected
"Remember, Remember the 5th of November..."
Create a Chaos, Dismantle the current system. What next? Any alternative system will work? Or have worked?
That is the first question need to be answered. Revolution can came later after this.
Good investigative work!
I wonder if all of the reporters are being nonpartisan in their reporting and will not just investigate current administration, but previous as well.
Thank you, I hadn't had a good belly laugh in a few days !
Well you got your answer.....they will not. And were indeed being partisans...
This is to me real journalism. This is what we need more of not who the hell Miley Cyrus is engaged to or that she stuck her tongue out at. That and the light and the insatiable appetite for sports is all the distraction. I want to know what's going on with the people who run the framework of our lives and what they're up to.
Excellent work!