Who likes fighting Ikit Claw?
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- Опубликовано: 5 апр 2024
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Video suggestion, most annoying LLs to fight in WH3.
Every wood elf lord.... Damn I hate fighting against them and autoresolve every battle, something I usually never do
Pretty much I just autoresolve all fights against ikit
That might be a good tierlist of most dangerous/annoying factions when commanded by the AI
Grimgor before your faction has any real ap damage. Almost impossible to kill when he charges at you with nearly 200 armor.
Great suggestion!!
"General Legend, what shall our role be in the battle to come?"
"You're gonna stand out in the open and hope a nuke doesn't get dropped on your head. You'll then proceed to be swarmed and eaten by giant rat men."
"..."
"Some of you may die...."
Me playing shogun 2 at 2011: I hope there will be more so great historic total war games.
2024: Guy on YT dodging nuke dropped by evil rat
And I wouldn't want it any other way
dont be sad... at this rate if CA make new historic games they would be unplayable with lots of bugs and critical issues as well
Back when Total War was still great.
If you can dodge a nuke you can dodge a ball!!!
Spearman - "what?"
what i find most impressive is not that he is able to win hard battles, he does so with keeping the armies in pretty could shape
Exactly I can win most battles I come across but doing it the way he does is something else entirely
"whoa.. he can dodge a wrench" best line of the day
But can he dodge a ball?
Ikit claw is like wood elves for me.... either avoid as much as possible or bring enough to auto resolve
Ikit is annoying, but wood elves, especially their settlement battles are a nightmare. And don’t even get me started on Orion shooting your artillery from across the map as soon as you start the battle
@@Roman_Imperator Sisters are more likely to do that with the eagle riders
@@Roman_Imperator Yea, Wood elves are something else entirely. I usually build armies specifically meant to counter them in order to deal with them.
the irony is that when i play ikit, i recruit 5 stacks of stirmvermin to autoresolve woodelves
Do people really struggle with wood elves? I find they're on of the easiest armies to take on by far, they have basically nothing good in their entire roster.
As if fight Skaven wasn't bad enough, Ikit is here to rub warpstone dust into it. The nuke, warp lightning, and menace below are so much fun to fight against.
I will literally change the entire strategy of my campaign to avoid going anywhere near Skaven. So annoying.
"They don't want a fair fight." -Legend on Ikit & Skaven 🤣
“They can dodge a wrench”
The dodgeball reference 😂
Well now you can enjoy beauty of menace belows from the other side :Dd
omg that nuke dodge was perfection !!
Picking this video to type this because it's the most recent.
For me? It's not the fact that Legend is a really good player. It's the fact that he's extremely descriptive about WHY he does EVERY little thing he does. I love that. I'm such a sucker for methodology and dissecting video games. It's a big part of why I went from playing on Normal/Normal to Very Hard/Very Hard consistently.
Legend not only know his 5 C's (Cheese, Confuse, Combobulate, Cheat and Cheese) but also his 5 D's.
I was fighting Chaos Dwarves in my later stages of my Yuan Bo campaign, their Dreadquake Battery army ability was the same, 45s after battle started, spot on. So if someone hates fighting them, you can bait it the same way as Legend or usually there is enough time to dodge if you are playing with pause.
If you have unit summons, and your army is hidden in foliage, you can supposedly just summon right on top of the enemy and they'll nuke their own forces. I haven't tried it before, but with CA's record I doubt it's patched.
I miss when Legend used to call us fuckers at the end of the video
😢
Well it was nice and nostalgic but probably cost him a lot of money compared to not saying it. So yeah better don’t, given that this is job.
But yeah I guess the (online) world has changed.
@@Mahfireballs He says fuck all the time, I doubt it costs him money
ye still feels wierd
You could feel the rat coming in Legend by the praise of Ikit claw at the beginning
The legendary nuke dodger 😅😅
Never clicked so fast, love your content❤ even faster than the Bots 😅
Same
RATS FOR THA WIN! YES-YES!
7:00 that Plague Claw Catapults must be so confused 😅 there were like: "wait, that isn't our lord!"
love the Im gonna hide my entire army strategies lol
The thing with Ikit is the micro in battles is absolutely ridiculous.
Look away for a second and you've killed 20% of your own frontline(Skavenslaves and clanrats not included as casualties) while the AI has no problem instantly avoiding such situations.
You'll have some fun battles yes but the further into an Ikit campaign you get the less fun you'll have even when winning.
Skaven weapon teams are extremely good in auto resolves but due to how units "lead" their targets any aoe weapon team will hit you more than the enemy.
Doomwheels and Doom-flayers can disrupt enemy lines but when used are the main reason micro is constantly needed.
Heroes are overall the best choice for tanking but adds even more micro.
And i'm speaking from personal experience both fighting Ikit and playing his faction.
You need to stop putting melee units directly in front of gun units lol. Checkerboard
@@iain-duncan Still causes friendly fire due to them leading their shots, it feels like skaven and chorfs(blinderbuss ones) love shooting alled units in the back of their heads regardless of your formation.
Checkerboard formation is also way better when your gun units have some height advantage (atleast from what i can tell) and mediocre fire rate.
So the 2nd volley doesn't hit your own units, the chorf BB unit is an exception to the 1st volley being safe due to their low range and although they have decent melee stats having them at the front is extremely risky
Also shooting skavenslaves will never be boring therefore i shall keep putting them infront of the guns
@@mr.gandersson2835 like you said before, skavenslaves don't count ;)
I tend to run a formation with long thin melee groups forming funnels around ranged blocks. This works especially well with chorfs, as chaos blunderbusses can easily hold in melee for a second or two to close the ranks. Basically just use historical archer tactics, and then either use heroes to tank at range for more time to shoot or flank the blunderbusses around the sides and tear them apart
@@iain-duncan Yep those tactics have worked in most situations.
Only problematic if the enemy has high speed infantry or cavalry.
Not to mention those filthy Dawi with their artillery
Yvresse is my favorite faction and I find myself in these situations so often
Best video recommendation to dodge a nuke in this game!
That why you use silverin guard. Nice spell resistances. That plus a protective lord and they can take a meteor to the face.
I auto against Ikit Claw every chance I get because I know I'm gonna slip up and he'll drop a perfect nuke on me
Cheers❤
Ikit claw is always a pain, but i would say highelves are one of the better matchups... dwarf for example pure pain & if you win, your army will taking heavy damage
Had that in one of my campaigns not too long ago... Ended up just having a unit of slayers charge while every other unit hid to bait the nuke
Lore accurate slayer behavior tbh
@@igorpostumus "The Craven Rats have a terrible weapon that will evaporate many of those hit in barely a second, with those that survive being left alone and unsupported, far from any supporting units and sure to die holding back the overwhelming enemy forces."
Slayers: *Vibrating in anticipation of glorious deaths*
I like fighting as ikit claw
I've tried to find, but what do you guys think about a Top 10 or Tier list about all Quest Battles in the game. It could be rated how fun it is playing how challenging it is, which Item do you get through it, how difficult it is to do with the Leg lord in early game. I don't know if Legend already did this kind of thing but maybe this could be a new Idea. Upvote if you like it :)
The Elves has employed Skaven tactics/
the way of the cheese
I always wanted to see how the player could ever be able to play against doomstacks wielded by the AI.
You mean the guy that drops a nuke on your army the literal second you press start battle? That one?
3:51 sweet nuke dodge
I chuckled at the irrelevant, but amusing bit (considering who the player was playing as) that the video ended with “Tor Elithis Refugees Destroyed” as a side note
Massive amount of resistance.
Including nuke resistance
Hehehehe
Watching this almost feels like the wh2 days.
if you can dodge a nuke you can dodge a ball
New video 29s ago, gimme!
666 kills on the lord... nice
This content is like nicotine for me
Teclis and his 8 exhilarated lore master 11 arcane phoenix stack likes to fight ikit claw.
Is Fireball better than Burning Head or Flame Storm for hitting specific targets which have loose formation spacing? It's certainly cheaper and kills seem more likely.
Mostly depends on the entity count. Fireball would be better than burning head against monstrous infantry, I imagine. But Burning head and flame storm are able to hit so many more entities at once than fireball is, which increases the total damage they deal by a ton. Fireball's AOE isn't big enough to be worth hitting small entities, usually.
And now the tables have turned.
666 Kills on that lord. Nice
I always auto-resolve against Ikit Claw.
Yeah nah, that shit don't work on me.
Legend dodging nukes IRL.
Side steppu
WARLOCK MASTA
I like fighting WITH Ikkit Claw xP
Actually I like it coz AI doesn't play Ikit properly and you can bait the nuke hidding units on the forest I farm his tech passive with Carcassone, Sartosa & Orion pretty often since I don't let him expand
Claw is tough because of his army. But Craventail is the toughest skaven lord to beat imo. When controlled by AI he is probably the second toughest melee lord to face in campaign after Vlad. His 90% wardsave keeps triggering from any shot (even though the description EXCPLICITLY SAYS that the ward save is activated by melee only, thanks CA). I tried dwarves in WH3 once and they still suck against skaven in any settings be it siege or field battle. I got bored with Craventail constantly coming in taking like 80% of the whole effort in battle to kill. He is a skaven version of Vlad. At least you can kite in field battles, in siege setting he is literally unstoppable with that broken ward save.
you wanna know ELSE who likes fight theikit Claw..?
5th!
No one thats the answer. Nobody lies fighting Ikit Claw but even more so if you see that little nuke symbol in the battle panel, guaranteed to say goodbye to one ore more of your units.
On legendary difficulty, menace belows and LL abilities/spells should be hidden from the player IMO.
Or is that too masochistic?
It's too masochistic...for most of us.
But for you...I think you like pain.
One question. Does Ikit have a missile ready for every battle?
Nukes? No not always
Ikit will ALWAYS use one single nuke against the player and it is 99% of the time the first battle you fight against Ikit.
Oh ok. Thank you. Im bit sad now :D
@@Murasame13 He _can_ make another, but it usually takes him a long time to do it.
What does he mean by "capturing" Ikit Claw?
He's talking about Eltharion's unique mechanic.
Are these videos all legendary difficulty?
usually yes
@@vermentiderat4424 ty
Personally, I dislike armies that get a big "Fuck you, I win" button. It forces auto-resolve and makes the game less fun. Looking at you Azgorh at turn six
I think they’re okay when rare, as something the player can enjoy, so it a good option to have. Player can always choose to not use them.
I won’t lie, I get serious endorphins from dropping a PERFECT nuke.
But yea, if every faction had them on every lord, it’d get old fast.
Wonder what's going on with the economy. For a turn 112 high elf campaign that's a pitiful amount of income.
this is why no amount of mods can make your game more diffucult unless they are improving AI which none of them does. its always artificial diffuculty such as giving AI huge cheats
Coding AI is one of the most difficult and time consuming things to do in video game coding. Especially in an rts game like this where you have millions of things to keep track of at any single given time. If that isn't bad enough, they would have to then make multiple different AI codes to match the different difficulty levels.
@@ninetailedfox579121 as a developer myself i strongly disagree. especially when there is an awesome bug finder like Legendoftotalwar.
@@ninetailedfox579121 thats completley false. as a developer myself i actually know what im talking about. and also there isnt a million things to track there is only "legendoftotalwar" to track. just watch his videos or collabarate with him to report such nonsense behavior and they will fix it. simple as that. one of his recent video showed that you can wipe out entire army without actualy fighting them on forced march which is beyond stupid. and if you think this is sophisticated complex coding then you know nothing.
@@chapteriv3053 If you are a developer then I am the King of France.
If you think it's as simple as "just fix it" then why don't you do that? You watch Legend's videos, after all. It should be so easy for you. The only thing here that could be an even remotely simple fix would be giving the AI the same knowledge about opposing units as the player does so they don't just waste their menace belows/nukes on any unit they can see.
As for being able to wipe out an army in forced march without fighting would be an issue with the forced march mechanic, not the AI.
@@ninetailedfox579121 This is one of the most stupid comment i have read on a youtube video.
Imagine being this stupid where you think AI placing NUKE on a single half assed unit where the enemy army is completely untouched is hard to code againts.
oh and also;
"IF yOu tHiNk iT's aS sImPlE aS "jUsT fIx iT".
pure retardism
I modded TW:W3 into a more hard-core tactical kind of game.. I liked it. Then ikit nuked me.... back to vanilla
Ikit ain't shit against a staunch line of spears.