always love a white's boots review. the Mp service boots are phenomenal. Ordered a pair at the beginning of the year in brown smooth leather. Boy is the leather thick and the break in hellish. It's all worth it. Now it's my best fitting pair of boots. I haven't worn my red wing beckmans in forever. Bought another pair in my most coveted cinnomon waxed flesh during their blackfriday sale. Cannot wait to get them.
@@Kingfisher1215 i ordered both pairs from bakers. Didn’t know my size, so i went with bakers and sent in my measurements/tracings. From many written reviews, white’s doesn’t have the best QC. Baker serves as a secondary line of QC; they also have amazing customer service in case there’s any problem with the boots.
Jiafei I've been to Eugene many times and used to live in Portland. Next time I pass through I'm stopping there and at Truman. My daughter played soccer for years with girls from Scappose but I never went up there to visit Wesco. At least I have visited the Danner outlet out near PDX a number of times.
@@jeffreykatz1330 the waxed flesh for sure. The oil smooth leather is simply unnecessarily thick. Depends on what you like and what you use your boots for, you may prefer one over the other. As a lab rat, the oiled smooth is too heavy duty for my needs.
Nice review! I went with the White's Perry and am happy with them. More casual and easier break-in. Whiskey is a nice looking border collie. One of my four border collies was a red & white. She was a marvelous companion. She was a working (sheep and cattle) ranch dog before I adopted her.
Nice review! I've got the same one in green waxed flesh. Love them! The leather is so thick they're actually heavier than my engineer boots! I didn't have a problem with the lacing during the break in but for me the top of the toebox was very painfull on my toes. I'm used to iron rangers which have way more toe space so I had to tape in my toes during the break in haha. The stitching on the sole wearing through is not a issue. The stitching helps the sole stay in place while the glue settles and if the stitching is worn through the sole should stay on just fine!
Going one whole size down and one width up works for these. Im 12 D on the brannock with a high instep and 11 E fits well. I tried 11.5 D and they're very tight around the toe box.
Yeah their username is whitesriver, they've got some stupid deals right now- pretty sure I saw some MPs for $350. I take it you're in the Heritage FB group too?
@@AnimalStrings Glad you liked it! Yeah, the FB group is called Heritage Boot Club. SDP is great, such a cool community. The Sagara's should arrive in the next month or so, they're a MTO pair of Boondockers- I'll try and post a review when they get here.
The vibram soles are incredibly uncomfortable, they’re very jarring and dig into the sole of my foot. Otherwise, they fit like a glove and are fantastically well made. I’d recommend going for the lug or mini lug sole if you go for a pair.
@@JayceBroda I work indoors these days so it’s a nonissue. The Dainite soles are pretty jarring on cement- and downright unpleasant over extended periods. I think part of it is due to the all leather construction- Whites uses a leather midsole and shank, and there’s no cork filling to help with shock absorption. This boot would definitely benefit from an outsole with a softer compound, once these have seen a bit more wear I’ll likely send them in to my cobbler.
Yep! Half size down at least for the MP last, full size if you prefer a snugger fit (like me). If you have any doubts about sizing you can always send a tracing of your foot to Baker's.
I really like these boots and am trying to understand how the Cinnamon Waxed Flesh patinas over time. It seems like over time, with normal wear and tear, they will lose the cinnamon color and the very light brown, natural rough out, will show through. Is that accurate? Is there any way to keep the cinnamon color, or will the boots patina to the very light brown rough out?
Hey there! Yeah, over time the wax wears away and reveals the rough out. You can just treat it again with the wax if you prefer that look. I've got two pair of these, one of them is fresher. Here's some pics for reference: imgur.com/a/sGwuAaG
Never had a pair myself but they seem to be pretty well thought of by the community. QC can be a little dicey with AE so I’d recommend checking them out in person if you can.
always love a white's boots review. the Mp service boots are phenomenal. Ordered a pair at the beginning of the year in brown smooth leather. Boy is the leather thick and the break in hellish. It's all worth it. Now it's my best fitting pair of boots. I haven't worn my red wing beckmans in forever. Bought another pair in my most coveted cinnomon waxed flesh during their blackfriday sale. Cannot wait to get them.
Jiafei did you buy them directly from Whites or get the from Bakers?
@@Kingfisher1215 i ordered both pairs from bakers. Didn’t know my size, so i went with bakers and sent in my measurements/tracings. From many written reviews, white’s doesn’t have the best QC. Baker serves as a secondary line of QC; they also have amazing customer service in case there’s any problem with the boots.
Jiafei I've been to Eugene many times and used to live in Portland. Next time I pass through I'm stopping there and at Truman. My daughter played soccer for years with girls from Scappose but I never went up there to visit Wesco. At least I have visited the Danner outlet out near PDX a number of times.
Which do you like better the brown smooth leather or the cinnamon-waxed flesh
@@jeffreykatz1330 the waxed flesh for sure. The oil smooth leather is simply unnecessarily thick. Depends on what you like and what you use your boots for, you may prefer one over the other. As a lab rat, the oiled smooth is too heavy duty for my needs.
Nice review! I went with the White's Perry and am happy with them. More casual and easier break-in. Whiskey is a nice looking border collie. One of my four border collies was a red & white. She was a marvelous companion. She was a working (sheep and cattle) ranch dog before I adopted her.
Leather laces must help with the bite as I didn't have any. Also, interesting to see no lace hooks. The MP Sherman that I have are eyes and hooks.
As someone who put leather laces on the black whites perry boots, no they don't.
Nice review! I've got the same one in green waxed flesh. Love them! The leather is so thick they're actually heavier than my engineer boots!
I didn't have a problem with the lacing during the break in but for me the top of the toebox was very painfull on my toes. I'm used to iron rangers which have way more toe space so I had to tape in my toes during the break in haha.
The stitching on the sole wearing through is not a issue. The stitching helps the sole stay in place while the glue settles and if the stitching is worn through the sole should stay on just fine!
Stitches won’t be an issue, it’s normal for them to wear away. The glue is more than strong enough to keep the soles on until it’s time for a resole.
This boot looks very much like the Frye Logan Cap-Toe boot. Same rough out finish, made in USA.
Going one whole size down and one width up works for these. Im 12 D on the brannock with a high instep and 11 E fits well. I tried 11.5 D and they're very tight around the toe box.
Good review! MP Shermans are very comfortable once broken in and they’re all very versatile boots
Looking good, I remember when you posted these back in April! Didn’t know whites had an eBay shop I’ll have to check it out
Yeah their username is whitesriver, they've got some stupid deals right now- pretty sure I saw some MPs for $350. I take it you're in the Heritage FB group too?
@@harkerleatherworks Heritage facebook group? Interested ! I'm in SDP too. Great video! would love to see a sagara review.
@@AnimalStrings Glad you liked it! Yeah, the FB group is called Heritage Boot Club.
SDP is great, such a cool community.
The Sagara's should arrive in the next month or so, they're a MTO pair of Boondockers- I'll try and post a review when they get here.
Have had them for a couple weeks, the break has been tuff. The discomfort has been in the top of the toe box, hopefully it subsides.
Wow, you ever trip on those laces? 😆
Great looking pair of boots. I like the way that roughout ages.
Great video! Would you be able to link to the eBay store you mentioned White’s uses to sell returns?
Amazing review, I should have got these when I had a chance
The break in on Viberg boots isn't fun either.
is it comfortable for daily walk?
How comfortable are these for you? Also, what is the shock absorption like? Thanks!
The vibram soles are incredibly uncomfortable, they’re very jarring and dig into the sole of my foot. Otherwise, they fit like a glove and are fantastically well made. I’d recommend going for the lug or mini lug sole if you go for a pair.
@@harkerleatherworks Sounds like a deal breaker. Yikes, why wear something that is incredibly uncomfortable?
@@JayceBroda I work indoors these days so it’s a nonissue. The Dainite soles are pretty jarring on cement- and downright unpleasant over extended periods. I think part of it is due to the all leather construction- Whites uses a leather midsole and shank, and there’s no cork filling to help with shock absorption. This boot would definitely benefit from an outsole with a softer compound, once these have seen a bit more wear I’ll likely send them in to my cobbler.
@@harkerleatherworks Thank you!!
good looking boots
Go Spurs Go
Question: my size in Brannock Device is 8
Do you think i will getting a half size down 7.5 at white's ? Thanks
Yep! Half size down at least for the MP last, full size if you prefer a snugger fit (like me). If you have any doubts about sizing you can always send a tracing of your foot to Baker's.
@@harkerleatherworks Thank you 😊
Awesome review and nice looking workshop. I'm sitting at my bench with my cat Sake! Keep up the great work.
What do you have to type to get to white's eBay store thank you, nice video.
I really like these boots and am trying to understand how the Cinnamon Waxed Flesh patinas over time. It seems like over time, with normal wear and tear, they will lose the cinnamon color and the very light brown, natural rough out, will show through. Is that accurate?
Is there any way to keep the cinnamon color, or will the boots patina to the very light brown rough out?
Hey there! Yeah, over time the wax wears away and reveals the rough out. You can just treat it again with the wax if you prefer that look.
I've got two pair of these, one of them is fresher. Here's some pics for reference: imgur.com/a/sGwuAaG
Trinity Handmade has a 6-month review in Cinnamon Waxed Flesh, and it looks like you're exactly right about how it ages.
Have you ever done Allen Edmunds Higgins boots?
Never had a pair myself but they seem to be pretty well thought of by the community. QC can be a little dicey with AE so I’d recommend checking them out in person if you can.
Can I get a link to their ebay shop? I’m having trouble finding it.
Search whitesriver eBay and it should come right up.
Just sold to a Japanese shie company. Sad
Not being picky, but you did not "opt" for the copper eyelets when you bought the boot "as is" from a return outlet store.
Loose stitches? Melt ‘em back with a lighter.