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Finally got one of these at 51 years old. Been dreaming of an Orion setup since the 90s. 2 HCCA 154 15's is what's left to get. Y'all, I'm so excited, my wife came out to the garage and asked me what I was doing. I said, just visiting my amp. She rolled her eyes but y'all get it :) Don't give up on your dream system, you'll get it!
It sucks the Orion splx3000.1 for the pass couple years isn’t the same one as Big d wiz tested if you look at the internals they aren’t nearly as beefy prolly realized how much power they was really making and redid it.
@JamesOKeefe-US awesome man. I got my first hcca used in high school back in 95. It was my goal at the start of my SR year and I got it. It was so stoked. Sad I only had 2 10" kicker comps to put on it at the time but I got it lol.
the same thing happen to me bud... been out the game for a really long time, and got back intrigued after watching big D experiment. Almost lost my spouse over screwing around in the garage. LOL..
@@andrewlewis5251 sure it did sundown had to completely revamp their amps double their power and they still cost double to triple in some cases still they just dont compare even after the revamp sundown for the loss
I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking or afraid to say. The Orion dsplx amps are the best in the industry right now. They aren't even close to being the most expensive. Every company in Korea and china is reverse engineering the boards right now.
this is what happens automatically when they build their stuff in those countries. maybe not so much in korea but in china the gov takes all of the blueprints and makes their own stuff. they don't care about copyrights, patents or trademarks. what's really a scary thought is boeing and northrop grumman build all of their controls and electronics for fighter jets and other weapon systems in china
From my understanding Orion and Rockford has their own build house and manufacturing. Unlike other brands that copy 🐈 their products from one another. I have not seen any copy cat amp boards like Orion or Rockford on the market.
@@danielhillwick8430 rockford may not be copykatting but for how much they sell for still not worth it rockford wasnt even in the running or mentioned cause they are a rip off just like jl audio
I ran orion years ago when all this was first starting. I remember the black amp that claimed 25x4. 141 dB spl. Unreal. That was in the late 80's. Glad to see they didn't sell out
They use to call them onion amps back in the day because of the distinct smell they use to put out. Orion has been my amp of choice since the mid 80's ever since seeing an exhibition build at the sound off competition at Devonshire Downs, San Fernando, CA. It was the first time i had seen a windshield get smashed by a sound system. This guy had 10,000 watts pushing 10 or 12, 12" Cerwin Vegas in a walled mini van. In the 80's the only way to get 10,000 watts was to use a shit load of smaller amps. In this case there had to have been at least 14 amps attached to a wall at the rear. All true class A 2 channel amps if I remember right. They got hot as hell and smelled like onions. I've have used plenty of other amps over the years, Hollywood Sound Labs (under rated and not well known) , PPI, ADS, Rockford Fosgate to name a few but I have always liked running Orion's for the bottom end. I still run an old school black XTR PRO 2400 2 ohm class D mono block (rare) in my Explorer. It's my understanding that Orion only made this amp for 1 year before replacing it with the red 2500 1 ohm stable version so you don't see to many of them around. It's been about 10 years now and it is still going strong. Even though it is rated at 2 ohms I have had no problems running it at 1 ohm except for the demand for current it puts on the charging system. It's good to see Orion come back to life with it's new owners. They kind of got lost there for a while and I thought I was going to have to wright them off as another great small company turned huge corporate producer of crap like so many other brands of the 80's and 90's. Orion has a good business plan I think. They have like two completely different divisions. One is straight forward consumer grade Chinese "made for the masses" nothing special type shit you find at Wall Mart and then they have the other division dedicated to making car audio that is actually worth putting in your car. If I needed to replace my current system this amp would be on my short list of candidates. The price to power ratio of this amp is top tier.
Hey Big D, so much for Hi-Fi Vega's stealth amp category of cheater amp. Nothing stealth about how Orion is doing things with these new HCCAs. Looks like Orion is just going balls to the wall and letting everyone know they are rating their amps lower than the rest of the industry to bring back the days of Big Reds past. These new HCCAs are the NFG cheater amps. When all the other manufacturers say to Orion, "Hey guys we had a good thing going, giving as little as possible while rating as much as possible. It was good for the bottom line." Orion says, "But we sold out and lost what made us so special. Time to turn it up to 1.21 jigawatts and hit 88mph. We have no fucks to give, other companies put up or shut up!" (BTW, I do really like Robert's categorization of cheater amps into cheater and stealth. And yes I know Orions were more cheater than stealth, but these new HCCAs still DGAF.)
Congrats to the winner. I wasn't even close. When I did the math, it came out to 13k watts, but I couldn't believe it would actually do that much! My guess was 9250. I was so wrong!
Orion smacking the crap out of Sundown and others!! Congrats Cyron!Hey JP put another video of sundown out again and say how Big D Wiz rigged the test and then delete all of your comments. lol.
Competition is good for the industry. My tests are not rigged, but you guys already knew that. I do these tests for you guys, the companies can benefit if their amps do well, but I don't care one way or the other. I just have fun testing and making the vids. Da truf will see U free...
I really want to see that again. That is insane I figured maybe eight or nine thousand Watts tops but 13,000 wow!!! Okay now I have to go buy one or two!
idk , was told dynamic doesnt really mean much in the audio world like its a fake number. Lot of other audio ppl mentioned to me that its the certified that counts.
Same here! I would have loved to see how long the amp could maintain that. When I watch these tests, I have often thought it would be cool to measure the operating temperature as well.
@@danabarnes4751 I was really hoping he'd touch it and give us a measure of how warm it was. Then again, it might not heat up that much off a quick burp.
I bought and love this amplifier thanks to you buddy. Had a turn on the problem right out of the box. But it was repaired and back to me in two days. Has worked flawless ever since. Granted I do live in Jacksonville Florida.
DAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was expecting it to go into protect mode, maybe with a brief 9,000-10,000W burp as it did. Impressive!!! I'm glad Orion is back in the game. :-)
As long as you can feed the Orion what it wants (current and a lot of it) it will stay out of protect mode. The fan may come on though. They also like to see 4 volts or more at the inputs. Ive had problems running them with 2 volt RCA's at high volume.
Oh, and I used to have almost that same US Amps that you had at the end there. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it was a 125x4 and .25 ohm stable. It had a plexiglass bottom and was anodized red. It powered my four MTX 15s back in the day.
I'm actually opening a sound shop in Nashville TN and part of the reason is these videos. Big D and Blank. Exo and JP rekindled my love for all things bass. Great job Big D
Wooooaaaah now, that was unexpected! That's absolutely absurd!!! Over 1000 amp draw? I don't really know what else to say on a family friendly channel. Thanks for showing us brother.
I bought the 5000.1 dv2 Big D. They fixed the remote bass knob. They added a power and clipping light. They also fixed the end caps too! Would love yo see it go against the new sundown salt 5k
OMG Big D! I'm speechless I think my guess was 5,700 watts. Either the gentleman who won't the amp got really lucky with his guess. Maybe he had one and did that test before or knew someone who did and ran the same test. I'm really jealous LOL. Congrats to the dude. I know what amp I want buy one of those one day. I wonder what the 5000.1 would do with that same .5ohm test?
Love your videos, the concern I have with this particular result is that your dyno showed 13231w at 13.23v = 1000a...OR, the amp went into protection bypass and no value was actually passed through . Your thoughts? Thanks for the great work!
I want this amp so bad I'm buying it and I don't even have nothing to push it I don't even have the power it would take to push this amp but I don't give a fuk I'm getting it
If you buy it, the subs will come... Seriously we should all just buy one and then go from there with our builds. These things give off so much powwwwa! It doesnt matter what subs you get, they will be jumpin out da box! Doesnt matter if you rise to 1.5 or 2 ohm, they still will be slammin! Only real problem is we all just added at least a grand to the total build bill for all the extra electrical. I mean 1000 amps plus!! FUQ me shit just got real. We all need to invest in some lead and copper cuz these beauties with the tripple power and ground inputs just made 6 runs of 1/0 and 4 group 31 agms standard. Mr Singer and Mechman arent going to be able to keep up.
What is there to dislike on this video ? Why is there 11 haters ? 🤣 do they just not like Orion , I didn’t like Orion !!! But shoooot!! Now I do !! 😂🤣😅 i gotta get me one o’ this !!! #WillSmithVoice
@@JP-or1jb I used to love orion...ran hcca back in 2000. Now you couldn't pay me to take it.....I watched how the owner talks to people. Calling them liars when they have an issue ect. There's a reason I run dc audio now.
Seems like the new owners know what HCCA stands for..... High Current Competition Amplifier. I used to run 225's and 250s until I got sponsored by us amps and they would run a. .25 ohm load all day long.
Just bought this beast myself. Got it running 1 sundown u 10 for now, can't wait to unleash the monster. Love the hcca series, looking at the subs in this lineup also
How come you did not show the efficiency I'm building an off-grid solar sound system and would love to know what you feel is the most efficient amplifier that puts around 3000 Watt into 2 4ohm loads
@@VictorEstrada You don't get what he means. Back in the 80s-90s, competitions were classified by power classes. Orion and most other higher end brands offered "25W" amps... at 4Ohm, that would operate at .25 Ohm and make 500-1kW, depending on the brand/ model. They were called "cheater" amps, and, Orion was one of the kings of 1/4 Ohm- 1/2 Ohm world, as was Soundstream (Reference series would run wired .25 Ohm), US amps, Linear Power, and several others.
I tell so many people about the Orion HCCA, amps and subs rarely anyone heard about them but there are in my opinion the best amps and subs ever especially the HCCA design althought the XTR models are good, i have the HCCA 15.2 subs and the oldschool D5000 on each of them and my 158.3db at 14.1v
In 97' I worked at a tint place and rehooked the whole sound board. An Orion 225 would easily push 14 speakers. Until the power supply would kick off. The amp was barely over warm. JS
WOW! That was just straight up nasty! Congrats to Dapper on the victory and the new Orion. I really didn’t think she’d make it at .50 ohm after seeing the crazy numbers at .80 ohms and guessed PROTECT. Man, do I have egg all over my face now, ha! Big thanks to BigD & Orion for making this giveaway happen! 👍 JC
I used to be an Orion dealer. All orion amps are half ohm stable. They just don't advertise it. Back in 94 I ran a cobalt 430 4x30 watts. I pulled over 3000 watts out of it powering a pair of xtr 12dvc, pair of kicker 6.5s, pair of kicker d 20 tweeters, and 4 concord 6.5s with Sony 1 inch tweeters. Banged out a 138spl . Considering this was mids that wasn't bad for a non modified 88 escort gt.
You can clamp your fluke meter on one of your power cables, and then multiply the result by the number of wires in parallel. That will still allow you to get a reading that would otherwise be OL for the meter.
That's pretty impressive you should make a video digging into what you think their secret is, why did that amp do so much better then then other amps? Country of origin? Build quality? Etc
Just picking up the Orion, you can tell it’s some serious bidness! Orion has their own factory in Korea and designs their amps. This 3k has a progressive power supply and boy can it put out the powa!!
So this amp dynos great. I finally got a chance to try one. I had a DD audio M5 running at 1 ohm. The only dyno test I’ve seen on it says it does about 9950 dynamic at 13.6 volts. So this Orion should have easily outdone it. I lost 3.5db. Might do great on dyno. Not so great in the real world. 240ah of lithium. Mechman 400 externally regulated to 16volts. It never dropped below 15.6. It just had no power. Or no where near what it dynos at. I was so excited to try this amp. HUGE disappointment. I gain matched it, did everything right. No way it was even doing 6k. I doubt 4K. Unfortunately I didn’t have an AMM-1.
Next up Big D, XTR PRO 3500.1DX 2022 arrival from Orion. I just bought one and am curious to see what it can do. Orion didn’t include a birth sheet with it though….
Back in the 90's we ran two orion hcca 225's with two 15 in orion xtr's and dayum! All those older orion amps were highly under rated! Were talkin amps rated at 300 watts pushing over 1000 real watts. Orion, ppi, earthquake and others created the name "cheater amp".
WOW! So at 0.5 ohms what do you think it will do playing a music bass note? i ran a HCCA5000-1d @.6 ohms using three 12"sub in my daily driver . i have a volt & amp meter reading the sub wire. i have seen reading over 90 volts /90 amps (8,000 watts) while bumping/slamming . "stock 140 amp alternator, 1 acid battery, big-3 (single run of 2/0 wire) & four caps (6f ) . slamming bass , my voltage dips 12.5. 30hz test tone dips 10.5volts. My real world test and your lab test are in sync. If Orion don't be careful they will be outlaw.
I saved up a ton of money in the early 90s for a HCCA2150. For my 2 landar 15"s. It was kickass. I had that amp for 10 years. Ty I love that old school stuff.
It brings happy tears to my eyes to see Orion producing this type of equipment again. Reminds me of the early 90's when $900 econo boxes were moving the earth with some serious junk in the trunk.
I guess I was being conservative with my guess being almost 5k below actual. A 3,000 watt amp at 1 ohm doing 10k over rated at 0.5 ohm is astounding to say the least. Congrats to the winner...
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BigDWiz Crazy question, but are there any videos of two amps strapped on a dyno? Is that even possible?
BigDWiz I have two soundqubed 18" subwoofer rms 1500 watts would u suggest get 2 hcca 3000.1 r 5000.1 really need ur help love ur videos
This Amp has more watt than my cooking oven
do you have any info on the Boland audio amp dyno and interview?
This Tammy Forbes person has been continually posting negative comments on my videos and has been blocked. I don't mind constructive criticism, but continual, un-warranted negativity will result in being blocked.
Got an audio stalker
1 out of every 10 comments would actually contain some thoughtful, insightful information...but the other 9 were like...painful
Thank God,he/she is on every audio channel being so Damn negative for no reason
bye felicia *door slam*
Lol
Finally got one of these at 51 years old. Been dreaming of an Orion setup since the 90s. 2 HCCA 154 15's is what's left to get. Y'all, I'm so excited, my wife came out to the garage and asked me what I was doing. I said, just visiting my amp. She rolled her eyes but y'all get it :) Don't give up on your dream system, you'll get it!
It sucks the Orion splx3000.1 for the pass couple years isn’t the same one as Big d wiz tested if you look at the internals they aren’t nearly as beefy prolly realized how much power they was really making and redid it.
How decent are they now?
@JamesOKeefe-US awesome man. I got my first hcca used in high school back in 95. It was my goal at the start of my SR year and I got it. It was so stoked. Sad I only had 2 10" kicker comps to put on it at the time but I got it lol.
the same thing happen to me bud... been out the game for a really long time, and got back intrigued after watching big D experiment. Almost lost my spouse over screwing around in the garage. LOL..
Orion is back to reclaim the throne. Straight up
well, this comment didn't age well LOL
@@andrewlewis5251 sure it did sundown had to completely revamp their amps double their power and they still cost double to triple in some cases still they just dont compare even after the revamp sundown for the loss
imagine if orion pulled a sundown move we'd get a twenty thousand watt amp for 1200$ killin the game
Back?? Thus is an old, old amp isn't it? Can't say back. And those cobalt, and ztreet ?? crap boxes are in the wrong direction.
Orion XTR and HCCA amps are killin it! Great vid Big D!
I'm just going to say what everyone is thinking or afraid to say. The Orion dsplx amps are the best in the industry right now. They aren't even close to being the most expensive. Every company in Korea and china is reverse engineering the boards right now.
this is what happens automatically when they build their stuff in those countries. maybe not so much in korea but in china the gov takes all of the blueprints and makes their own stuff. they don't care about copyrights, patents or trademarks. what's really a scary thought is boeing and northrop grumman build all of their controls and electronics for fighter jets and other weapon systems in china
From my understanding Orion and Rockford has their own build house and manufacturing. Unlike other brands that copy 🐈 their products from one another. I have not seen any copy cat amp boards like Orion or Rockford on the market.
@@danielhillwick8430 rockford may not be copykatting but for how much they sell for still not worth it rockford wasnt even in the running or mentioned cause they are a rip off just like jl audio
I ran orion years ago when all this was first starting. I remember the black amp that claimed 25x4. 141 dB spl. Unreal. That was in the late 80's. Glad to see they didn't sell out
They have changed owners over the years, but it appears the new Orion means serious bidness👈😲
They use to call them onion amps back in the day because of the distinct smell they use to put out. Orion has been my amp of choice since the mid 80's ever since seeing an exhibition build at the sound off competition at Devonshire Downs, San Fernando, CA. It was the first time i had seen a windshield get smashed by a sound system.
This guy had 10,000 watts pushing 10 or 12, 12" Cerwin Vegas in a walled mini van. In the 80's the only way to get 10,000 watts was to use a shit load of smaller amps. In this case there had to have been at least 14 amps attached to a wall at the rear. All true class A 2 channel amps if I remember right. They got hot as hell and smelled like onions.
I've have used plenty of other amps over the years, Hollywood Sound Labs (under rated and not well known) , PPI, ADS, Rockford Fosgate to name a few but I have always liked running Orion's for the bottom end. I still run an old school black XTR PRO 2400 2 ohm class D mono block (rare) in my Explorer. It's my understanding that Orion only made this amp for 1 year before replacing it with the red 2500 1 ohm stable version so you don't see to many of them around. It's been about 10 years now and it is still going strong. Even though it is rated at 2 ohms I have had no problems running it at 1 ohm except for the demand for current it puts on the charging system.
It's good to see Orion come back to life with it's new owners. They kind of got lost there for a while and I thought I was going to have to wright them off as another great small company turned huge corporate producer of crap like so many other brands of the 80's and 90's. Orion has a good business plan I think. They have like two completely different divisions. One is straight forward consumer grade Chinese "made for the masses" nothing special type shit you find at Wall Mart and then they have the other division dedicated to making car audio that is actually worth putting in your car. If I needed to replace my current system this amp would be on my short list of candidates. The price to power ratio of this amp is top tier.
They did sell out to DEI , but someone brought them back hard !!!!!!!!!!!!yeh boy
Oh they def sold out. That hcca is an oldie
"Car wars" is what the locals called it here. I won a bunch of them with 2 of those amps
That's Insane! Orion, STILL flexing their guns 💪 - Thanks for the opportunity and congrats to the winner🍻
Man if everyone thought like you, this shitty world would be a better place! Cheers homie! 🍻
ORION IS BACK! WITH VENGEANCE!! DEF 2 ALL ORION HATERS!!!!!!!!!!
Woot woot!!! Thanks again Big D!
You da man!! Congrats brother 👌😎👍
Big congrats out to you, man!!!
Congrats!
YOU BIGG DUMMY!....(ya kno i hadta!) - haha, CongratZ!
Congrats dude!!
*in my Kevin Hart voice* "Somebody come look at this!"
Jeremy Moore nooooooo "he wasn't ready"
Hey Big D, so much for Hi-Fi Vega's stealth amp category of cheater amp. Nothing stealth about how Orion is doing things with these new HCCAs. Looks like Orion is just going balls to the wall and letting everyone know they are rating their amps lower than the rest of the industry to bring back the days of Big Reds past. These new HCCAs are the NFG cheater amps. When all the other manufacturers say to Orion,
"Hey guys we had a good thing going, giving as little as possible while rating as much as possible. It was good for the bottom line."
Orion says, "But we sold out and lost what made us so special. Time to turn it up to 1.21 jigawatts and hit 88mph. We have no fucks to give, other companies put up or shut up!"
(BTW, I do really like Robert's categorization of cheater amps into cheater and stealth. And yes I know Orions were more cheater than stealth, but these new HCCAs still DGAF.)
Congrats to the winner. I wasn't even close. When I did the math, it came out to 13k watts, but I couldn't believe it would actually do that much! My guess was 9250. I was so wrong!
Unreal! Congrats to the winner and thanks again for the testing Big D!
Orion smacking the crap out of Sundown and others!! Congrats Cyron!Hey JP put another video of sundown out again and say how Big D Wiz rigged the test and then delete all of your comments. lol.
Competition is good for the industry. My tests are not rigged, but you guys already knew that. I do these tests for you guys, the companies can benefit if their amps do well, but I don't care one way or the other. I just have fun testing and making the vids. Da truf will see U free...
BigDWiz we all appreciate what you do. Keep up the great work!!
Somebody pleeeease make a meme of BigDwiz slapping JP like in the vids baahahahahaha
My question is, then why the countless videos i see in youtube are most with crescendo and sundown amps?
kevin auman with the "you big dummy" tag
yes sir they are very underrated amps i just dyno'd mine after install and it did 6745 on music .. very impressed i think it has more too
What year did you buy yours?
By the beard of Zeus that's just insane. I'm blown away. Great stuff Big Dizzle.
👌😬👍
Jus just 😮 wow thanks for thes Dino test bro really helps on my decision making when putting together a new system 🤙🏼
Good gravy that's alot of power! BidDWiz tells no lies! Good stuff brotha
How to overclock your amplifiers.
I really want to see that again. That is insane I figured maybe eight or nine thousand Watts tops but 13,000 wow!!! Okay now I have to go buy one or two!
Love all this old school audio , brings back good memories
Checked every day, yet was worth waiting... The outcome was entirely different than anticipated.... 👍 WOW!!!!!
idk , was told dynamic doesnt really mean much in the audio world like its a fake number. Lot of other audio ppl mentioned to me that its the certified that counts.
Holy s***! I thought it was going to do right around 10k. Holy crap that thing is a beast!
That's insane. What's the max the dyno will take? You need another channel for PA amps. Let's see what one of those Powersoft K20s does.
@@whithutchinson6895 for PA Amps the dyno Is too small only 2500w 8 ohm
I would definitely buy this amp, I have different brands, but just seeing the power of Orion excites me, blessings for Orion designers.
You're the reason they raised the price on this amp.
He’s the reason they can’t stay in stock and why they hold they’re a value
I was only off by a little over 3000 Watts.
hahahaha!!! I literally yelled "DAFUQ?!?!" out loud at my screen when i saw that number hahahahaha!!!!
👈🤣 I kept it clean on camera, but I almost peed myself 😜
Same here! I would have loved to see how long the amp could maintain that. When I watch these tests, I have often thought it would be cool to measure the operating temperature as well.
@@danabarnes4751 I was really hoping he'd touch it and give us a measure of how warm it was. Then again, it might not heat up that much off a quick burp.
I bought and love this amplifier thanks to you buddy. Had a turn on the problem right out of the box. But it was repaired and back to me in two days. Has worked flawless ever since. Granted I do live in Jacksonville Florida.
I'm selling mine for a decent price
DAAAAM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I was expecting it to go into protect mode, maybe with a brief 9,000-10,000W burp as it did. Impressive!!! I'm glad Orion is back in the game. :-)
As long as you can feed the Orion what it wants (current and a lot of it) it will stay out of protect mode. The fan may come on though. They also like to see 4 volts or more at the inputs. Ive had problems running them with 2 volt RCA's at high volume.
Oh, and I used to have almost that same US Amps that you had at the end there. I'm not 100% sure, but I believe it was a 125x4 and .25 ohm stable. It had a plexiglass bottom and was anodized red. It powered my four MTX 15s back in the day.
I'm actually opening a sound shop in Nashville TN and part of the reason is these videos. Big D and Blank. Exo and JP rekindled my love for all things bass. Great job Big D
Best of luck to ya brother!
Congrats man. Good luck with it.
Where at in Nashville are you
I live 20 min north of Nashville like to check out your shop
That's amazing! Go Orion!!! Grats to the winner!
Wooooaaaah now, that was unexpected! That's absolutely absurd!!! Over 1000 amp draw? I don't really know what else to say on a family friendly channel. Thanks for showing us brother.
Thanks for keeping it family friendly. I’m big on that 🤙
its amazing
@@wal Gadzooks lol 😇
I would love to see the ia30.1 in this competition !!!!! Real results, unbiased. Big D for the win . Love the giveaway ! Congrats to the winner !
My eyebrows flew right off my face when that number popped up.
Mine too 😲
That is just unbelievable ! This video alone, is going to have me reconsidering Orion amps :)
I can hear the sundown boys crying from here lol
Orion brought the AAAAAAAA game way to go
i can hear the team orion amp repair guys from here. lol
there is a sundown fan boy now lmao
Lmao
The sun went down on them lol
I bought the 5000.1 dv2 Big D. They fixed the remote bass knob. They added a power and clipping light. They also fixed the end caps too! Would love yo see it go against the new sundown salt 5k
Got a link to the knob..I'm currently running this amp
OMG Big D! I'm speechless I think my guess was 5,700 watts. Either the gentleman who won't the amp got really lucky with his guess. Maybe he had one and did that test before or knew someone who did and ran the same test. I'm really jealous LOL. Congrats to the dude. I know what amp I want buy one of those one day. I wonder what the 5000.1 would do with that same .5ohm test?
50,000w 😂
The 5000.1 turned out to be a dud. 😪
I love your amp dynos keep them coming
👈😊👍
With 13,231 watts at 1/2 ohm that amp is over 9,000... Literally
Sorry, but had to say it
Or is it 8,000?
so how much will a 8k hcca give me? any suggestions on how many batteries i need and kind of amp i have 2 15" 154 blk coil series
Lots of batteries
I worked at soundsplus in redlands ca, i was not surprised you are a god.!!!!!
Love your videos, the concern I have with this particular result is that your dyno showed 13231w at 13.23v = 1000a...OR, the amp went into protection bypass and no value was actually passed through . Your thoughts? Thanks for the great work!
Hott Damnn!! Those are some incredible numbers!! Now that’s the Orion I remember. Congrats to the winner of this beast 🍻
The wattage matched the voltage
Amazing job Big D Wiz!!!!!! So happy I brought this amp a couple of weeks ago
Not me, it’s the amp. It’s like the Energizer bunny. Just keeps going and going and going...
@@wal we won't know unless you shoot the video with an amazing battery supply!
Love it when amps are actually way over advertised ratings like this one is. Curious about 1ohm numbers on it too. Im guessing 3kW is on 2ohms right?
Nope it was on 1 ohm
That's the definition of a real beast that thang really has beast mode
I have to four mojo 615s looking for something to push them with gonna stay between 12 to 15 volts
You should make a video about this old school amp....
S850.1D - Precision Power 850W Sedona Series Class D Monoblock Amplifier
Orion HCCA and Lanzar 50C were the best competition amps back in the 90s!
I want this amp so bad I'm buying it and I don't even have nothing to push it I don't even have the power it would take to push this amp but I don't give a fuk I'm getting it
If you buy it, the subs will come...
Seriously we should all just buy one and then go from there with our builds. These things give off so much powwwwa! It doesnt matter what subs you get, they will be jumpin out da box! Doesnt matter if you rise to 1.5 or 2 ohm, they still will be slammin! Only real problem is we all just added at least a grand to the total build bill for all the extra electrical. I mean 1000 amps plus!! FUQ me shit just got real. We all need to invest in some lead and copper cuz these beauties with the tripple power and ground inputs just made 6 runs of 1/0 and 4 group 31 agms standard. Mr Singer and Mechman arent going to be able to keep up.
Scott Weakley more like add an extra 5k for electrical
Me too
Ooohhh snap 👊💯, congratulations 👍 on not blowing up the sound lab👏👏👏. 👈😎👉✌️out bigD from Modesto,CA
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In the words of Ice Cube and Chris Tucker, DAMMMMNNNN!!!
😱 that amp is crazy. Congrats to the winner.
I dig amps
but this is too deep
just subbed like the contents.
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Damn he was so so close. Beast of an amp.. Huge credit to Orion for a beast of an amp..
What tha f@#$😱 say it with me ...
One if the best Amps I owned was am Orion XTRpro 1000 wrms class D, who clean so powerful , it made my hx2 12s sound fkn crazzyyy
What is there to dislike on this video ? Why is there 11 haters ? 🤣 do they just not like Orion , I didn’t like Orion !!! But shoooot!! Now I do !! 😂🤣😅 i gotta get me one o’ this !!! #WillSmithVoice
I wish they made a 1kW version as I don’t need this much power
BigDWiz turn the gain down or run it at 4 ohms , this thing is a beast ! 😂🤣. You big dummy !!! 😂 but of course you already know that !
@@JP-or1jb I used to love orion...ran hcca back in 2000. Now you couldn't pay me to take it.....I watched how the owner talks to people. Calling them liars when they have an issue ect. There's a reason I run dc audio now.
Thanks for all the work and testing you do Big D...very interesting and informative.. I love the videos
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I wish u would do the Orion xtr4000.1d . i wonder what it is done in actual power output.
Seems like the new owners know what HCCA stands for..... High Current Competition Amplifier.
I used to run 225's and 250s until I got sponsored by us amps and they would run a. .25 ohm load all day long.
Just bought this beast myself. Got it running 1 sundown u 10 for now, can't wait to unleash the monster. Love the hcca series, looking at the subs in this lineup also
Damn something told me to go higher than 10,250🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️🤦🏽♂️
Do u know the model number to this amp
Micheal Robinson Orion HCCA 3000.1 D SPLX
This is definitely my favourite amp blows everything else away.cant wait to find the 4.1
13231.... palindrome watts?
Tinfoil hat?
Orion confirms HL3?
How come you did not show the efficiency I'm building an off-grid solar sound system and would love to know what you feel is the most efficient amplifier that puts around 3000 Watt into 2 4ohm loads
I can check as I frequently put this amp in the Dyno
Orion still cheating lol.
How exactly? If you use a current/volt/watt calculator, it adds up based on current pulled from the fluke/multimeter
@@VictorEstrada You don't get what he means.
Back in the 80s-90s, competitions were classified by power classes.
Orion and most other higher end brands offered "25W" amps... at 4Ohm, that would operate at .25 Ohm and make 500-1kW, depending on the brand/ model.
They were called "cheater" amps, and, Orion was one of the kings of 1/4 Ohm- 1/2 Ohm world, as was Soundstream (Reference series would run wired .25 Ohm), US amps, Linear Power, and several others.
I tell so many people about the Orion HCCA, amps and subs rarely anyone heard about them but there are in my opinion the best amps and subs ever especially the HCCA design althought the XTR models are good, i have the HCCA 15.2 subs and the oldschool D5000 on each of them and my 158.3db at 14.1v
Holy shittt hahahaha that's awesome
In 97' I worked at a tint place and rehooked the whole sound board. An Orion 225 would easily push 14 speakers. Until the power supply would kick off. The amp was barely over warm. JS
I have this amp on 2 10” HCCA104’s with a Limitless Lithium 6k In my A8. 4th order with a blow thru the center armrest. Got damn!
WOW! That was just straight up nasty! Congrats to Dapper on the victory and the new Orion. I really didn’t think she’d make it at .50 ohm after seeing the crazy numbers at .80 ohms and guessed PROTECT. Man, do I have egg all over my face now, ha! Big thanks to BigD & Orion for making this giveaway happen! 👍 JC
I would’ve never guessed this high either
HOLY CRAP! lol! 13k watts even from a 5k watt amp would be impressive. even the insane wattage it puts at 1ohm is quite insane.
I used to be an Orion dealer. All orion amps are half ohm stable. They just don't advertise it. Back in 94 I ran a cobalt 430 4x30 watts. I pulled over 3000 watts out of it powering a pair of xtr 12dvc, pair of kicker 6.5s, pair of kicker d 20 tweeters, and 4 concord 6.5s with Sony 1 inch tweeters. Banged out a 138spl . Considering this was mids that wasn't bad for a non modified 88 escort gt.
I enjoyed this video probably more than I should have. Orion is back!
I'm definitely sold. Keep doing what you're doing Big D. Orion is my next course
You can clamp your fluke meter on one of your power cables, and then multiply the result by the number of wires in parallel. That will still allow you to get a reading that would otherwise be OL for the meter.
Yessir, I thought of this too...afterwards 🤷♂️
I didn't call the wattage but I called the winner from the beginning. Awesome series BigD!
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One of the best channels on YT big thanks for making this content
That's pretty impressive you should make a video digging into what you think their secret is, why did that amp do so much better then then other amps? Country of origin? Build quality? Etc
Just picking up the Orion, you can tell it’s some serious bidness! Orion has their own factory in Korea and designs their amps. This 3k has a progressive power supply and boy can it put out the powa!!
So this amp dynos great. I finally got a chance to try one. I had a DD audio M5 running at 1 ohm. The only dyno test I’ve seen on it says it does about 9950 dynamic at 13.6 volts. So this Orion should have easily outdone it. I lost 3.5db. Might do great on dyno. Not so great in the real world. 240ah of lithium. Mechman 400 externally regulated to 16volts. It never dropped below 15.6. It just had no power. Or no where near what it dynos at. I was so excited to try this amp. HUGE disappointment. I gain matched it, did everything right. No way it was even doing 6k. I doubt 4K. Unfortunately I didn’t have an AMM-1.
Next up Big D, XTR PRO 3500.1DX 2022 arrival from Orion. I just bought one and am curious to see what it can do. Orion didn’t include a birth sheet with it though….
Working on it
Back in the 90's we ran two orion hcca 225's with two 15 in orion xtr's and dayum! All those older orion amps were highly under rated! Were talkin amps rated at 300 watts pushing over 1000 real watts. Orion, ppi, earthquake and others created the name "cheater amp".
I think I said 9500 watts but 13k that's insane. Awesome. Give way Big D and congrats on the winner.. 👍👊💪😱😱😱
I would’ve guessed around 10k myself
I'm running my lanzar 2000d at 0.5 on a daily basis with pioneers w3003d..... No issues and I run it hard every day...
WOW! So at 0.5 ohms what do you think it will do playing a music bass note? i ran a HCCA5000-1d @.6 ohms using three 12"sub in my daily driver . i have a volt & amp meter reading the sub wire. i have seen reading over 90 volts /90 amps (8,000 watts) while bumping/slamming . "stock 140 amp alternator, 1 acid battery, big-3 (single run of 2/0 wire) & four caps (6f ) . slamming bass , my voltage dips 12.5. 30hz test tone dips 10.5volts. My real world test and your lab test are in sync. If Orion don't be careful they will be outlaw.
Glad you really clamp tested yours 90 volt 90 amp is crazy!!! All stock even better!! Good on you Superstar!!
I saved up a ton of money in the early 90s for a HCCA2150. For my 2 landar 15"s. It was kickass. I had that amp for 10 years. Ty I love that old school stuff.
Oh, my damn... Winner winner chicken dinner.. that's a amazing Dyno.. Orion getting it done.. great video..
Just bought this amp and 2 HCCA104’s and I can’t stinkin wait to put em in the A8!
Wow ! Amazing. I used to run concord amps back in the late 70s.
Have you ever heard or tested any of these. Very high quality. And underatted
It brings happy tears to my eyes to see Orion producing this type of equipment again. Reminds me of the early 90's when $900 econo boxes were moving the earth with some serious junk in the trunk.
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Straight up beast, it's all I can say!
Love what your doing @BigDWiz..... Keep it up....
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I guess I was being conservative with my guess being almost 5k below actual.
A 3,000 watt amp at 1 ohm doing 10k over rated at 0.5 ohm is astounding to say the least.
Congrats to the winner...
I guessed low too. I did the math, and came up with 13k watts, but I couldn't believe it would actually do that much
I just bought the orion hcca5000.1DV2. I can't wait to receive it 🙌 😁
That's crazy, I knew it should do over 10K but 13.5K....daaaaaang.
Also you just sold a ton of amps for Orion :)
I should start asking for a percentage 👈😊...nah, I’ll stay independent and let those who perform well speak for themselves
HCCA Still carrying its name. Another Great video among all the great videos you do!
That old school Orion stuff is/was amazing.