The 80's were the best! My great grandfather's name was Aubrey. I enjoy your channel. I like that you explain traditional methods which always tend to be best. Somethings in life change but the classics never go out of style!
I'm pleased you showed the finished piece in place at home. Gives it a bit more context . It looks great. I'll be using your Pure Gold on a mirror frame I'm in the process of finishing
Reminds me those when I was attending a furniture and cabinet making classes in London ! When we did not stain we would use liming! The effects were marvellous on completion
I love the chapter layout, clean with information and the thorough work put into the entire show, camera panning and simple wording (for a fellow not born in England). Cheers!
Last time I used plaster of paris was on a polishing course. The tutor said it is a traditional technique for grain filling. I lime waxed an oak display unit, made by the cabinet makers in the company I was working for, in a 16th century house.
It's always interesting to see traditional woodworking methods, but I think that the fireplace looked much nicer before you did all that work. Just personal taste. At least you have convinced me that I never want to apply a lime-wash, so I thank you for that.
I've got a lovely 1930s oak surround, which I think has been waxed with a dark wax in the grain. It has a lot of old paint spatter on so I will strip the finish and see what materialises, then take it from there.
Exactly the video I wanted. I just scored a wooden surround for free! Council were clearing out a house across from us and ripped out the fire surround and were going to dump it. I asked the guys if I could take it and they dropped it over to my house. I've just finished cleaning the heck out of it (residents were smokers) and halfways through sanding it now and had no idea how I was going to finish it and seal it. I love how you finished this. It looks fabulous. I hope Ian is still loving it. Just one question though, how often would it need to be resealed with the wax?
Good Day and thank you for such an in-depth and fun tutorial. If polycrylic is used as a last step will it ruin the white plaster of paris effect? I plan on doing this to kitchen cabinets and believe the polycrylic will have a longer life than a wax finish? Thank you again for such a great demonstration!
Superbly well demonstrated and explained technique, thank you! I assume 'your customer' isn't planning to light a fire, as the dimensions appear too small to provide the necessary minimum safe distance for combustible materials. (unless open fires need less distance than stoves?.. l'm no expert) I mention this as something for viewers to be aware of if they are installing their own fire surround for wood-burning stoves or similar... it would be tragic if their hard work ended in a house fire. If in doubt consult an expert, all professional wood-burner installers should be able to advise. Love the story! In 86 as a trainee cartographer we used leather encased steel paper weights, and one practical joker took great pleasure in throwing these weights to land on the glass drafting table inches from our heads as we stooped over particularly detailed work. They were very heavy weights so it really made us jump which usually ruined our work... Funny (not!). He did it one time too many to me... in a rage I grabbed another weight and then he watched in frozen shock as I threw it with all my strength (and I'm a big guy) right at his head, where it bounced off harmlessly because I'd previously removed the steel core and glued the leather casing back together. But he never did it again!!
Thanks so much for this well-explained video. I watched many that used watered down paint, which didn’t sit right with me. And I love your stories! For the light sealer, could I use a shellac thinned with spirits since I don’t have a French polish solution? Thanks again.
Hi Wanda. Thank you, Yes you can use a thin coat of shellac, it will work perfectly. Just do a discreet test application first. 🙂 ( to be sure) Cheers Simon
Sorry I hadn't noticed when I was editing it. I tried to keep it at the same levels. It was a difficult edit due to the weather complications. I hope you are well. Kind regards Simon
I watched this again so I could use this technique on my antique solid ash dresser. I did use a 2-part bleach solution … still too orange. I missed it the first time but you used methylated spirits and “polish” to seal as the first step. Can you please say what the polish is? Ever so grateful!
Hi Wanda. sing two part wood bleach is a time sapping process. In our workshop experience, the bleaching process can sometimes go on for days after you have applied both and neutralised. So be patient. I used a special pale polish, it's not a brand, its the name of the polish. You can use table top polish or white polish, It doesn't really matter as long as its not a tinted polish. You could seal it with diluted sanding sealer. Good luck Regards Simon
Thanks so much! I am doing this process on a tired Drexel end table. I hope mine come out as consistent and luxurious as this. Wondering if I can use a hard wax oil Odies Oil) in lieu of your wax as I have it on hand.
Hi. I found this so therapeutic to watch and the steps were brilliant, I’ve got a table that’s oak that I would love to have a go at!!!!!!!! Can I use the Liberon liming wax I’ve used in the past on a mirror? Thanks so much. Karen
@@GilboysRestoration Im just really nervous at doing it, and having a go, and how much I need to sand it first which is messy in my dining room!!!!!!!!!! It’s just a bit too orange and I love lighter wood……. Am I best putting the liming wax on with wire wool & rubbing off with a cloth. I am such a beginner at 55!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Karen Yes, sanding in your house is always going to be messy. One way of making it lighter (whiter) is by not sealing the surface after you have opened up the grain: By skipping the sealing the liming paste wax attaches itself to the areas outside of the open pores. Giving the general surface area a lime wash effect. (don't use wire wool to apply the liming wax. It may leave wire wool fragments in your finish. Use a cloth instead)
@@GilboysRestoration Thank you so so much, I wasn’t expecting you to reply again to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! Women have all these great ideas and a picture in my head of how I want it to look!!!!!!!!! But it’s getting that effect I want and not knowing what to get or do!!!!!!!! I’m now thinking more of the driftwood type limed wash effect but didn’t really want to put a stain on it first incase it’s the wrong colour, You know like the light ish brown , white in the grain, farmhouse look. Hahaha. So sorry about me asking you all these things!!!!!!!! Many Thanks again, I really appreciate your time ………..
Loved this technique... but would love to do an actual lime finish, just has that true chalk look... I'm wondering if the recipe would be the same as the plaster of paris? Or does lime have a hard time staying into the wood grain? Yep want to stay away from LIme wax... you know keep it traditional? ;) Can I also ask the carpet on your sanding block, is that to keep the sand paper in place? Great idea if it is and i'm going to put some carpet on my homemade sanding block...
Hi Dominic. It works best on heavily open grained woods, oak being the best. This process can easily be adapted to create a lime-wash effect on most woods. It would be a case of experimenting. For instance I could have sealed the limed oak and then used a white pigment powder, diluted with a little wood oil, to create a translucent wash effect over the surface. I also could have stained the oak to a darker colour, lightly sealing it as I demonstrated and then grain filled it. The result being a stronger contrast between the wood surface and the white highlighted grain. This technique of grain filling has been interpreted in many different ways for centuries. It comes in and out of fashion as with most things. 😀 Kind regards Simon
Novice here! For a smaller, less intricate piece, is all that stripping strictly necessary? Can the old finish not just be sanded off with a power sander to achieve the same effect? Just seems that three coats of stripper takes a lot of time for you to then have to sand it afterwards as well.
I have to turn up the speakers to hear your narration, but then get blasted out of my chair when the music starts! it's aggravating to have to keep turning the volume up and down.
Very nice .. I felt as if I am with you in the workshop.. many I ask if I need to change the colour to grey when can I apply it ? Would it be varnish ?
Hi Yaman. When you say change the colour to a grey? You can paint it, once its stripped and you've opened up the grain. ( be careful not to fill the grain with excess paint) and then lime wash it for a contemporary finish. ✅
Hi Simon, I recently acquired an early Ambrose Heal oak chest which originally had a limed finish but there's nothing left of that now. If I wanted to re-lime it would I need to strip it back to bare wood as you have done with the fireplace surround? and are there risks for a beginner? (I understand this is quite a valuable piece) Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. 😊
Yes you can limewash pine but it has no open grain for the plaster of paris to fill. So it's more like a limewash effect. (I wouldn't use the wire brush technique on pine) ✅
Fantastic video and the most detailed online! Thank you. The finish is superb. Would you recommend the same polish for a dining table or would you use something else (that is perhaps even more durable)? Thanks again
"Liming wax" sounds like you would not be able to apply any top finishes over it. Is there any type of Liming Paste that would allow that? In other words, anything that would be compatible with further staining and nitro or other top coat for sealing everything.
Please ,polish ??????? No encuentro traducción Es para limpiar ,es una cera ?????? Estoy desesperada Lo entiendo todo menos el sellado Es goma Laca clara y ?????? 😅🙏
Hi Cathy. Because I wanted control of the sanding direction. I’ll explain.. When I sand with a block I’m following the direction of the grain with the sandpaper. Mechanical sanders tend to sand in a circular motion and I was avoiding this by hand sanding. I start with a relatively course paper but because I was sanding in the direction of the grain it is far less aggressive than an orbital sander. I have much greater control of my actions. I hope this helps to explain. Cheers Simon.
"Be generous with your stripper" .... that alone deservers a thumbs up.
The 80’s….. Or the 8eez I should say. What an amazing time they were. British music Monty Python and limey oak. 😮
Great video!
The 80's were the best! My great grandfather's name was Aubrey. I enjoy your channel. I like that you explain traditional methods which always tend to be best. Somethings in life change but the classics never go out of style!
Thanks Erin. 😁
Excellent job. Please put more videos more frequently. Thank you
Thank you. I will try my best. 🙂
I'm pleased you showed the finished piece in place at home. Gives it a bit more context . It looks great. I'll be using your Pure Gold on a mirror frame I'm in the process of finishing
Reminds me those when I was attending a furniture and cabinet making classes in London ! When we did not stain we would use liming! The effects were marvellous on completion
I love the chapter layout, clean with information and the thorough work put into the entire show, camera panning and simple wording (for a fellow not born in England). Cheers!
Thank you Lars.
It’s taken me about 40 hrs to edit it. I hope you and others find it useful. 😊
Kind regards
Simon
Last time I used plaster of paris was on a polishing course. The tutor said it is a traditional technique for grain filling.
I lime waxed an oak display unit, made by the cabinet makers in the company I was working for, in a 16th century house.
That's right. It was used traditionally as a grain filler. ✅
It's always interesting to see traditional woodworking methods, but I think that the fireplace looked much nicer before you did all that work. Just personal taste.
At least you have convinced me that I never want to apply a lime-wash, so I thank you for that.
I've got a lovely 1930s oak surround, which I think has been waxed with a dark wax in the grain. It has a lot of old paint spatter on so I will strip the finish and see what materialises, then take it from there.
I hope it’s successful for you Valerie.
Exactly the video I wanted. I just scored a wooden surround for free! Council were clearing out a house across from us and ripped out the fire surround and were going to dump it. I asked the guys if I could take it and they dropped it over to my house. I've just finished cleaning the heck out of it (residents were smokers) and halfways through sanding it now and had no idea how I was going to finish it and seal it. I love how you finished this. It looks fabulous. I hope Ian is still loving it. Just one question though, how often would it need to be resealed with the wax?
Good Day and thank you for such an in-depth and fun tutorial. If polycrylic is used as a last step will it ruin the white plaster of paris effect? I plan on doing this to kitchen cabinets and believe the polycrylic will have a longer life than a wax finish? Thank you again for such a great demonstration!
Hi Brennan. sorry probably too late now for me to advise .. But how did you get on?
Simon
Great information (and funny too), thank you.
Marvelous😍😍😍😍😍😍😍😍
Thank you.
Superbly well demonstrated and explained technique, thank you! I assume 'your customer' isn't planning to light a fire, as the dimensions appear too small to provide the necessary minimum safe distance for combustible materials. (unless open fires need less distance than stoves?.. l'm no expert) I mention this as something for viewers to be aware of if they are installing their own fire surround for wood-burning stoves or similar... it would be tragic if their hard work ended in a house fire. If in doubt consult an expert, all professional wood-burner installers should be able to advise.
Love the story! In 86 as a trainee cartographer we used leather encased steel paper weights, and one practical joker took great pleasure in throwing these weights to land on the glass drafting table inches from our heads as we stooped over particularly detailed work. They were very heavy weights so it really made us jump which usually ruined our work... Funny (not!). He did it one time too many to me... in a rage I grabbed another weight and then he watched in frozen shock as I threw it with all my strength (and I'm a big guy) right at his head, where it bounced off harmlessly because I'd previously removed the steel core and glued the leather casing back together. But he never did it again!!
That is also a great anecdote. 🤣 👏
very well done
i like it
Very nice. Thank you.
There's that British humor!
Thanks so much for this well-explained video. I watched many that used watered down paint, which didn’t sit right with me. And I love your stories! For the light sealer, could I use a shellac thinned with spirits since I don’t have a French polish solution? Thanks again.
Hi Wanda. Thank you, Yes you can use a thin coat of shellac, it will work perfectly. Just do a discreet test application first. 🙂 ( to be sure)
Cheers Simon
Dear Simon, the music is very loud compared to the spoken parts.
Sorry I hadn't noticed when I was editing it. I tried to keep it at the same levels.
It was a difficult edit due to the weather complications.
I hope you are well.
Kind regards
Simon
video spettacolare meravigliosa finitura grazie per la condivisione
Grazie. 🙂
Great job Could you do this will an old oak Welsh dresser with some details on it ?
I love the music. Who is the artist. Do they have a channel?
I watched this again so I could use this technique on my antique solid ash dresser. I did use a 2-part bleach solution … still too orange. I missed it the first time but you used methylated spirits and “polish” to seal as the first step. Can you please say what the polish is? Ever so grateful!
Hi Wanda.
sing two part wood bleach is a time sapping process. In our workshop experience, the bleaching process can sometimes go on for days after you have applied both and neutralised. So be patient.
I used a special pale polish, it's not a brand, its the name of the polish. You can use table top polish or white polish, It doesn't really matter as long as its not a tinted polish. You could seal it with diluted sanding sealer.
Good luck
Regards
Simon
Thanks so much! I am doing this process on a tired Drexel end table. I hope mine come out as consistent and luxurious as this. Wondering if I can use a hard wax oil Odies Oil) in lieu of your wax as I have it on hand.
Thank you. Yes you can use a hard wax oil. At long last, we now have our own: bit.ly/3IMIw7l
Hi. I found this so therapeutic to watch and the steps were brilliant, I’ve got a table that’s oak that I would love to have a go at!!!!!!!! Can I use the Liberon liming wax I’ve used in the past on a mirror? Thanks so much. Karen
Hi Karen.
Thanks for your kind comments. Yes you can use the liming wax in exactly the same way. 🙂
Good luck.
Simon.
@@GilboysRestoration Im just really nervous at doing it, and having a go, and how much I need to sand it first which is messy in my dining room!!!!!!!!!! It’s just a bit too orange and I love lighter wood……. Am I best putting the liming wax on with wire wool & rubbing off with a cloth. I am such a beginner at 55!!!!!!!!!!!
Hi Karen
Yes, sanding in your house is always going to be messy. One way of making it lighter (whiter) is by not sealing the surface after you have opened up the grain: By skipping the sealing the liming paste wax attaches itself to the areas outside of the open pores.
Giving the general surface area a lime wash effect. (don't use wire wool to apply the liming wax. It may leave wire wool fragments in your finish. Use a cloth instead)
@@GilboysRestoration Thank you so so much, I wasn’t expecting you to reply again to me!!!!!!!!!!!!! Women have all these great ideas and a picture in my head of how I want it to look!!!!!!!!! But it’s getting that effect I want and not knowing what to get or do!!!!!!!! I’m now thinking more of the driftwood type limed wash effect but didn’t really want to put a stain on it first incase it’s the wrong colour, You know like the light ish brown , white in the grain, farmhouse look. Hahaha. So sorry about me asking you all these things!!!!!!!! Many Thanks again, I really appreciate your time ………..
Loved this technique... but would love to do an actual lime finish, just has that true chalk look... I'm wondering if the recipe would be the same as the plaster of paris? Or does lime have a hard time staying into the wood grain? Yep want to stay away from LIme wax... you know keep it traditional? ;)
Can I also ask the carpet on your sanding block, is that to keep the sand paper in place? Great idea if it is and i'm going to put some carpet on my homemade sanding block...
Many thanks again for the insight into some fine processes. Would this apply to softer woods than oak or would you have to adjust any of the stages?
Hi Dominic.
It works best on heavily open grained woods, oak being the best. This process can easily be adapted to create a lime-wash effect on most woods. It would be a case of experimenting. For instance I could have sealed the limed oak and then used a white pigment powder, diluted with a little wood oil, to create a translucent wash effect over the surface.
I also could have stained the oak to a darker colour, lightly sealing it as I demonstrated and then grain filled it. The result being a stronger contrast between the wood surface and the white highlighted grain.
This technique of grain filling has been interpreted in many different ways for centuries. It comes in and out of fashion as with most things. 😀
Kind regards
Simon
Novice here! For a smaller, less intricate piece, is all that stripping strictly necessary? Can the old finish not just be sanded off with a power sander to achieve the same effect? Just seems that three coats of stripper takes a lot of time for you to then have to sand it afterwards as well.
So curious why the traditional method is plaster of paris and not actually lime?
It's a great question. Of which I don't know the answer. 😳
Does anyone else know?
I have to turn up the speakers to hear your narration, but then get blasted out of my chair when the music starts! it's aggravating to have to keep turning the volume up and down.
I'm sorry that the video aggravates you. Sorry.
Very nice .. I felt as if I am with you in the workshop..
many I ask if I need to change the colour to grey when can I apply it ? Would it be varnish ?
Hi Yaman.
When you say change the colour to a grey? You can paint it, once its stripped and you've opened up the grain. ( be careful not to fill the grain with excess paint) and then lime wash it for a contemporary finish. ✅
Hi Simon, I recently acquired an early Ambrose Heal oak chest which originally had a limed finish but there's nothing left of that now. If I wanted to re-lime it would I need to strip it back to bare wood as you have done with the fireplace surround? and are there risks for a beginner? (I understand this is quite a valuable piece) Thank you again for sharing your knowledge. 😊
Hi Elaine.
Can you send me a few images of it. simon@gilboys.co.uk. ✅
Can this be done with pine doors too?
Yes you can limewash pine but it has no open grain for the plaster of paris to fill. So it's more like a limewash effect.
(I wouldn't use the wire brush technique on pine) ✅
Fantastic video and the most detailed online! Thank you. The finish is superb. Would you recommend the same polish for a dining table or would you use something else (that is perhaps even more durable)? Thanks again
Hi Frederick.
Thank you. on a dining table I would apply a few coats of clear hard wax oil and then wax it.
It will make it much more durable. :-)
@@GilboysRestoration Thank you for your advice :)
"Liming wax" sounds like you would not be able to apply any top finishes over it. Is there any type of Liming Paste that would allow that?
In other words, anything that would be compatible with further staining and nitro or other top coat for sealing everything.
Please ,polish ???????
No encuentro traducción
Es para limpiar ,es una cera ??????
Estoy desesperada
Lo entiendo todo menos el sellado
Es goma Laca clara y ??????
😅🙏
Why don’t you use sanding machines🤔
Hi Cathy.
Because I wanted control of the sanding direction. I’ll explain..
When I sand with a block I’m following the direction of the grain with the sandpaper.
Mechanical sanders tend to sand in a circular motion and I was avoiding this by hand sanding. I start with a relatively course paper but because I was sanding in the direction of the grain it is far less aggressive than an orbital sander.
I have much greater control of my actions.
I hope this helps to explain.
Cheers Simon.