The Duesenberg LesTrem - Setup Guide
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- Опубликовано: 9 сен 2024
- Have you ever wanted to simply swap the tailpiece on your guitar for a Tremolo System? Meet the Duesenberg LesTrem.
This video contains all the information you need to properly fit the LesTrem to your guitar.
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I'm leaving this comment for anyone that has problems with their Les Trem making creaking noises, as I've seen a few people mentioning this issue. I also hope someone from Duesenberg will pick up on this because in my opinion the Les Trem has a design flaw - but it can be fixed.
The trem pivots around a 2mm steel rod attached to the body via 2 eyelets. There are fairly large gaps on either side of the eyelets, meaning the whole pivoting assembly can move laterally. Even a tiny amount of lateral movement was causing my Les Trem to creak - very annoying (it was nothing to do with the spring and oil or grease made no difference.)
I fixed this problem by putting 4 small rubber grommets on the steel rod - one on each side of the eyelets, filling the gaps so there is no unwanted movement. The Les Trem is now dead silent and I think tuning stability has been improved as well - it's been rock solid even when abused quite heavily. It's a great vibrato system but I think it needs a slight redesign to take into account this issue.
Also, I had to put an extra nut on the arm because the locking nut that comes with it kept coming loose...
man id love to see pics of that, anyway we can arrange that? lol thanks!
I greased it with a small amount of white lithium grease (also great for open gear tuners), but I like the grommet idea to further stabilize the whole thing. Mine's the Goldo version with the flat arm.
(also added roller saddles, and lubed the nut with Big Bends Nut Sauce).
@@nalukeko the rubber grommets didn't last the distance. I changed them out for small metal washers but it's the same idea - trying to stop the thing moving sideways. It's been working well for months now. Yeah roller saddles seem like a good move too.
@@Orkwort 👍 I might go there if I need to take it apart again. Right now (being nicely greased) it seems to center and stay there well.
Any ideas how to make it dive-only? I need to switch to Drop D in every set. Right now I sanded a brass washer for exact fit to avoid tilt back and secured it with an o-ring concoction. Wish there was a set screw/bolt.
I ordered this Trem and it will arrive next week. I am going to put it on my Epiphone vintage style SG. I think it will look sexy.
Excellent suggestion Paul; it just so happens that I have an Epiphone SG guitar at my other house up north in beautiful Central Florida, and if I get the opportunity to purchase this amazing tremolo system I may have to ask for help when it comes to installing it so that when it’s finally done I can certainly make it ROCK HARDER than before ✅ 😉 🏠 🏡 🎸
Brilliant & groundbreaking design!
i have a gold one on my epiphone slash and ive just bought a nickel one for my new epiphone 60s standard les paul.really good piece of kit.highly recommend if you like a trem system on your les paul.
Nice video guys!!!!
Adding a roller tune-o-matic to this trem helps tuning stability a lot. 'Cause strings slide back and forth on tune-o-matic saddles. Here the tune-o-matic leans to either side - 1:44 Can't understand why Duesenberg guys don't manufacture one.
I had to buy a separate Schaller roller tune-o-matic after I installed the Duesenberg trem on my Les Paul Custom.
I mean, I would gladly have bought both pieces from Duesenberg if they had a roller tune-o-matic in their production line.
That would make perfect sense.
I'm late to this post, but thanks for the update - I was going to ask if a roller bridge would help. I'll order one to be safe. I too would've preferred to buy one from Duesenberg.
They have made this special Tailpiece because there is none else out there. They make their own Bigsby, because that needed some improvements (which they did). But there is no need for just another roller Bridge, the Schaller for example is just fine ;)
@@Pyriander yes...I have the schaller/roller with a Deuce installed on an Eastwood baritone guitar; absolute trem-perfection....
I wish there was a set screw (or two) to make it 'dive-only' for quicker switches to Drop D and back, or keeping it in tune after string break.
Right now I've got a (sanded down) brass washer wedged in the back, secured by some thin o-rings.
How is the tuning after use? I've problems with my Bigsby trem
Would this work on a Rocket II? I only see the Bigsby style on Rockets in photos online.
Is this what would be called the Les Trem 1? As there is a Les Trem II,
It’s a smooth and good tremolo but my first E-string snaps of down at the ball. Have tried to fine sand sharp edges and also put shrinking tubing 2-3 cm but still one recently snapped there.
I had the same issue and found that putting a little solder by the ball end where the string tends to snap solves the issue. Bit annoying but worth the hassle imo.
Why I can't find your product here in Mexico ?¡?¡?
Will the Les Trem II accommodate .024-.090 Bass VI strings?
I bought this bridge a few days ago. I liked its design, and in terms of tuning, it works relatively well. However, what's driving me CRAZY is the arm. Just moving it a little for a few minutes causes it to loosen a lot, and it seems to be the nut that loosens with the movement. As an alternative, I've had to keep the arm fixed and tight, but it's very uncomfortable, and I accidentally bump into it while playing. I miss the feeling of a strat arm, which I can move at will without it starting to wobble. Any solutions?
You can adjust the tension of the nut holding the arm down. Gotta get in between the spring with the flat wrench, or open it by loosening the rear bolt on top. release string tension for that. Mine initially worked itself completely loose. Since I tightened it to my liking it's been staying put (so far at least).
I wish this came in black
I thought that for the best sound quality, as much body contact as possible would be best wouldn't it? Flat to the face of your guitar instead of raised up off the face with washers, as much contact with the body as possible, is better for the sound or not?
That is true, but in this case it would also cause damage to the body of the guitar - something we would generally try to avoid.
that a nice guitar, what is it?
That's our 59er Series Outlaw.
What is the biggest set of strings that can fit into the bridge ? Also, I tend to tune pretty low (around B standard), can I still use it ?
I have 10-52 on mine and it fits and sounds great. I'd say it can handle up to 12 - 52s with a wound G as well.
wonder how this would work with a hagstrom guitar. I really want to throw a trem on my guitar but its got a 15" radius
Hey @DelScully,
the radius is usually set by the bridge, not the tremolo. Please note that the LesTrem cannot replace a wrap-around tailpiece. It definitely needs a seperate bridge.
All the best!
Hi there, just wondering I have a epiphone les paul traditional pro gold top, would this fit
Yup.
Are there any sacrifices to playability/tone I should consider before ordering? Would be my first trem, and first trem upgrade.
none on my PRS 594, it's been 5 months
Just doing comparisons now on two identical Epi SG guitars . I am taking the trouble to do this
(including same pickups, adjusted the same way on both guitars) as I suspected there was a
tone change after I installed the LesTrem on one of them. The jury is out on this, as my tests are
not yet complete, but I will reply again when done.
It's just in the way. Not a fan on my LP. Probably keep it for something else,
@@jamesreeves4600 so the spacing on the PRS fits? did you use the metric or standard bolts? I'm trying to figure out if the PRS tailpiece fits on my Revstar. (your PRS core, S2, or SE?)
The Les trem works with flat top guitars?
yes, I have the original on several guitars including my '99 LPDC & a pair of Epi SG's that are flat not arched top. I have a couple of arch tops with the Les Trem also. They are phenomenal and are even better if you use with a roller bridge.
Will it work on an epiphone Dot?
Yes it will I just put one on my Epi dot!
Can I put it on a Rickenbacker 620 project?
Can I put it on a Yamaha revstar?
If it has a stopbar, but if I'm not mistaken most of the Revstars have a wrap around so you'll have to check that. Basically 1 bridge piece no 2 bridge piece yes
I put one on my Revstar 620 but I had to drill the trem holes. The only models that seem to be fitted to the Les Trem are the RS420 an RS320.
@@rodpederson4566 thats what I did to my 320, but the cheap roller bridge rattles a little, I'm planning on changing it to the stock saddles bridge. Does it work fine in yours?
@@ammx8492 I've installed Schaller roller bridges with Trems on 4 of my guitars and they seem to do what they're supposed to do. They're not the cheapest roller bridges around but I can vouch for their high quality.
@@rodpederson4566 I bought one just to discover the posts where m5 and the revstar 320 and 420 are m4, just like old Gibson, so my schaller is just there, waiting for a chance to be installed in one of my Gibson guitars. I ended buying a cheap roller bridge from Ebay that seems to do the work but I'm not satisfied with quality. A big bending make the roller "saddles" noisy and I fear they're going to pop out in a near future.
WHY doesn’t anybody use a roller bridge with these? Do they not notice the strings scraping and cutting into the bridge? If you think this trem works well with no roller bridge, just try a roller bridge and feel the world of difference. I can not imagine posting a vid like this. Can’t you hear the strings sawing into the bridge like a hacksaw? Unbelievable! If you overlook huge problems like this, for one you shouldn’t be modding guitars, and secondly, your ear for tone really sucks and you should try a more primitive instrument like a washboard! I’m sure it will sound just fine to you. Maybe you could play it with a wood rasp if you like the sound of metal scraping. This is a good trem, but you made it suck along with that over priced Gibson.