One small annoyance with Les Trem is that the lock nut that's inside the spring does not really hold and the bar becomes loose after short use. This can be fixed easily by wrapping couple of rounds of teflon thread seal tape around the screw.
how do you fix this? would you get a replacement lock nut from the hardware store? if so what size? my tech recommended maybe using locktite lol. mine is so whobbly. i love it but it’s driving me nuts. i just had it tightened and it’s loose again.
im having this problem as well! When I'm using the trem I can feel that there is too much space between the lock nut and the other parts inside the spring. kind of like a click when I push or pull. I have tried adjusting it but it just gets loose again after 10 minutes of playing. I have looked for the answer and found some guys using gorilla glue lol. Im going to try the teflon tape. sounds like it would work en wouldn't harm anything.
I want to stiffen the lateral movement of the arm, but the section on this vid in that regard is hurried, and vague....it would be nice to have some greater clarification as to how to adjust....
yes - I bought it and I installed it to an ESP Edwards "Michael Schenker Flying V" and it works fine. There are differences between the strings. By the high E-string I can trem a half tone below - by the deep E-String I can make Divebombs ...... btw. I bought an additional "roller bridge" for better tuning stability.
well , i have used this trem om my gibson es 335 for some time and now it's on my epi 2020 ( inspired by gibson ) ES 335 , and yes , it's works like a dream , no need for a roller brigde ! and it's way less expensive then a bigsby , also weighs less then a bigsby , and it is a easy fix , thank you duesenberg !!! the best trem there is for gibby style guitars !!!
The easy way to put a tremolo in my Hohner SE 35 without holes, and great price!!! Great product!!! The others choices are so expensives or you need make holes on your guitar.
You can't close the Les Paul case without removing the twang bar. Also, you can't install the trem on an SG with the bat's wing pickguard without cutting off a piece of the pick-guard.
I bought your first model (the one with a wider bar) 20 years ago for a Gibson SG. It was super smooth and kept the tune awesomely. I sold it together with that SG. Maybe it’s time to buy this new model for another guitar.
Cool video and cool feedback from duesenberg to the audience here! I've been readin some questions and answers and really helped me out!! Think i'm gonna try one! 🤔🙏✌
They quickly mention the lock nut that controls the tremolo arm. Even if you do not adjust it, it comes loose or did for me over time. This to me seems like the major design flaw as your tuning instantly disappears. I initially really liked it, but it is no longer usable to me as it loosens after minutes of use for me. I would have to use locktite to stabilize it at this point I think. Even then, that is a fix that i would like to avoid and instead have something mechanically sound. Until this point of weakness is addressed, I do not foresee buying another. I know this is a common issue also. I am willing to go with a hardtail in the meantime though as I prefer tuning stability above all else, which, is why I gravitated towards this tremolo over the Bigsby in the first place. It is a shame there is this one significant point of failure in an otherwise well thought out, smooth tremolo.
There is some inconsistency in the operation of Les Trem. It does not return exactly to the original position when the bar is released after pulling it. Many strings are left little bit sharp. It is something in the design of Les Trem - not in the bridge, nut or tuners. If the hex nut is not tightened properly then the guitar goes easily out of tune, but even when the nut is fully tightened there is still some inconsistency in the operation. I wonder if the arm that is holding the spring is able to change its angle slightly even when the hex nut is fully tightened. There goes quite a bit force to the arm when then bar is used. The angle of the arm has an effect to the spring tension, which in turn has an effect to the tuning and its stability.
Just to add to this old comment that I super glued the spring to the arm and this did help with the tuning stability. It also prevents the spring dropping away when bending notes. The tuning stability is still not perfect but I guess that guitarnutbuster and ABM rollerbridge might help with that.
The self locking nut underneath the tremolo arm in my Les Trem is apparently not "self locking" anymore and the arm is getting way too loose all the time. Has anyone here found a solution for this? A replacement nut perhaps?
I really liked this product! I really wanted to put on my Les Paul Special Epiphone I guitar! But unfortunately the values I managed to find on the internet, for my country, are not viable! A sadness, because I don't want to take imported product with low quality, and that will have holes in my guitar. :(
I don't think it's necessary as long as the nut and bridge are snag free everything works just fine. I have a les trem on my Hofner Verythin and have virtually zero tuning issues when using it. Great piece of kit
The ~5cm long flat metal bar in Les Trem II is too soft/weak for anykind of bending. The metal bar in my trem has bent a lot due to bending notes and I doubt that it won't be too long until it has bent so much that I have to ditch the Les Trem II and find something else.
Yeah so I have the trim system and I have not been happy. I play neo soul music and use my trim all the time on every song and it always goes out of tune so much I don’t use the guitar anymore until I get another trim system it has fail me on stage plenty
Is there any solution yet to the High-e string breakage with the Les Trem II? I see it's a common problem and I'm not the only suffering with this. What can we do? Thanks!
in a month installed it has broken at least 8 strings E and B where the ball winds, I don't know what to do, I have tried with a washer, without them, with two and nothing, it does not seem to be solved
Hey Chuey, just take off the strings and lift the arm assembly up. You should be able to put the spring in place with a little bit of pressure. All the best, - The Team
What guitar features 81.5mm bushing spacing? Every single guitar I've found a spec on ranges from 81.8-82.55mm.Will it fit any of these?How about screw size & threading?Any potential issues there?
2 questions. First: When you play two strings at the same time and bend one of them the other one stays in tune? Second: If a string break do the others stay in tune? I
Hey Daniel, thanks for getting in touch. The LesTrem is not a locking tremolo so if one string breaks, the other ones will go out of tune just like on any other non-locking style tremolo. Same goes for your question about the two strings played. This would be very minimal, though. Let us know if you need anything else!
I have this trem system on my Gibson Les Paul, and high E-string breaks often in weird way. Among all 6 strings, only high e-string's loop to ball end get loosened, and string dies. I tried with different strings but usually end up with same result. So what should I do to fix it? Any helps?
Solder the ball end wraps of the string prior to installation. The strings can slowly unwrap with bar usage. RUclips it. It is a fairly common practice.
Hello , I have a Caribou with Les Trem !! What’s the best way to restring ? I have other guitars with a Bigsby there a nightmare !! Also can I go to my preferred gauge 9-42 !! Thanks
ordered 2 Duesenberg Les Tremolo ll’s from Thomann, one in gold and one in chrome. However, I want to order a roller bridge but one of my guitar's fingerboard radius is 12" and the other is 10" what do I do. Most of them have a 14” radius. That is why I cancelled the roller saddle and opted to lubricate the existing saddles and nut. Any recommendations, please? Any adjustable height Tune O Matic roller bridges available?
Hey Joe, the LesTrem works with all common string gauges. The only limit is the size of the slots for the strings which can get too small when using very strong gauges. Cheers!
Hey guys I installed this on Ephiphone Wilshire p90 but unfortunatelly the tuning Is non-reliable. Any recommendation about how to fix it? Probably a new nut. I also added a rolled saddle bridge and I think it got worst
Would love to try this out, but the way that standard tunomatic bridge is moving doesn't look healthy at all. 1:35 Looks like it could warp the posts or cause them grind away the wood on the sides causing them to get loose. Or are those bridge saddles just not slotted properly? Wondering how this would look with a Roller-Bridge.
This is our Duesenberg Floating Bridge System. This allows the bridge to rock back and forth to compensate for the rubbing of the strings on the saddles of the bridge. We generally do not recommend roller bridges as they only work well when they have very good friction reduction which on the other hand weakens tone and sustain dramatically.
@@DuesenbergGuitars I see, thank you very much for the quick response and the info! So I do need your Floating Bridge System to make the LesTrem work? Or will normal or other Bridges work also, Rollerbridges aside? I imagine the combination of FBS and LesTrem offers the best handling and gradual, finer control and also making it easier to do dive bombs or anything with more bend since the Bridge is working with you.
@@JustRockMySoul We would recommend to get the LesTrem first and see if there actually is a problem with your setup. Aside from the bridge, there are other factors involved that also have an influence on tuning stability - nut, tuners, and definitely a proper stringing method. It also depends on what you actually want to be capable of doing. Adding a slight shimmer to chords with the tremolo is generally not a problem, whereas heavy tremolo action where the strings actually start moving through different parts of the hardware requires a really good setup.
@@DuesenbergGuitars That is very sound advice to go off of. I do have pretty decent Grover Tuners, which I hope and guess wouldn't be an issue. Judging by what you said neither should be the Tunomatic Bridge, given it is slotted properly. Do I need to worry about the force on the bridge at all? I'm afraid the rigid standard post will pull loose. Considering the nut, I just fit a bone onr into my Les Paul and am assuming the material will wear down rather quickly. Guess a lockable metallic one would be better for that purpose? When you say for the heavy action you need a really good setup, I assume that ideally includes your Floating Bridge. Less force needed to use it and potentially adding more range?
Hey there, so I have a les trem ii that I currently dont use because I kept snapping strings right at the ball end. Especially high E strings, like ALOT of strings. Any solutions to this problem? Am I doing something wrong? I had the les trem ii installed on a epiphone dot with no issues what so ever then I put it on an Eastman T386 and it just didnt seem to mesh with that guitar.
It happens all the time to me too! I thought I might be the only one but I searched online and see it's a common problem on the Les Trem II. Never happens with my Bigsbys.
Hey Zach, a regular Tune-o-matic style bridge will do. Some people like to use roller bridges but we found them to have a bad effect on the overall tone of the instrument. You can get the Duesenberg Steel Saddle bridge here: store.duesenberg.de/en/hardware-parts/114/duesenberg-2019-3-point-radius-bridge?c=65 It is designed to rock back and forth when using the tremolo to reduce friction. Cheers from Germany
on my flat top SG Special 70's tribute the bushings have no collar, can I just go ahead with inserting both sets of your washings instead of changing bushings? thanks :)
Hey Emile, you can do that and the LesTrem will work just fine. However, there's a risk that the lacquer could be damaged because the washers would sit directly on the lacquer without clearance. It also depends on if the bushings are sunk slightly into the body or if the stick out a little bit. You will have to check that personally.
@@DuesenbergGuitars thanks for the reply guys! No danger of that as my guitar has no lacker finish but only satin. I am gonna get myself a Les Trem II and install a Göldo Maestro Arm on it ;)
Just use the same studs as the tail piece to hold it down with, they're going to fit perfectly, they're just higher but they don't get in the way of your hands at all,
I believe it would actually sound better with more contact to the face of the guitar, laquer damage doesn't matter, tone and playability do more so I feel...
Hey there! The LesTrem is designed to be an easy "plug-and-play" Tremolo by replacing a regular Stop-Tailpiece. If your guitar doesn't have a stop-tailpiece it doesn't mean the LesTrem is impossible to fit. It's a lot more work though, and a seperate bridge (Tune-O-Matic or similar) is absolutely necessary. Example: Tele style guitar with a regular Tele bridge. 1) Remove the existing bridge 2) Drill holes and properly fit a tune-o-matic bridge 3) Drill holes and fit the LesTrem 4) Adjust the neck angle by shimming the neck
The Vibramates are not compatible with our version of the classic tremolo, but we do have our own adapterplate that allows you to mount a Duesenberg Diamond Deluxe Short Tremolo on the bushings of a Stop-Tailpiece. Similar to the Vibramate adapters.
DuesenbergGuitars I was looking to install it on a guitar with a hardtail bridge. It currently has a Tele Half Bridge on it. Do you have something for that?
@@averydeadhorse There are no adapterplates for mounting tremolos on Teles that we are aware of. They are typically bolted straight into the guitars top like on classic Tremolo Teles. You can do the same thing with our Tremolo, no problem, but you will have to drill holes into the top. You may have to modify the bridge so you can lead the strings from the Tremolo to the saddles. There is a lot of info on that online. The procedure would be the same with our Tremolo. Best!
Do you have to enlarge holes to install it? ruclips.net/video/zMu5nUYiX4w/видео.html this guy said you have to enlarge the holes on your guitar to install it ruclips.net/video/Yn3Q4QrejV8/видео.html and in Peter's video I don't think he did it they seems to have the exactly same guitar, so do you have to enlarge holes or not?
looks like a great option for my Charvel Desolation LP style guitar, except... it doesn't come in the black nickel finish the rest of the hardware on the guitar is. I wonder if i could find a company that could strip and resurface the components in black nickel?
@@SeanMcDougallsPage oh cool. i'm looking for Black Nickel, but still it's good to know they're available in black somewhere. after a bit of research, i've found that apparently it's pretty normal to re-plate metal guitar hardware, so i'm probably going to find someone to do that. it'll cost extra, but the guitar's worth it to me, and besides, it will be extra customized if it has a one of a kind tremolo. thanks for the info though.
@@DuesenbergGuitars I hope the guitar would fit into the original Duesenberg hard case too (it's a 2007 guitar, the case seems really slim)... Thanks a lot!
How was "Where to buy in the USA" not the highest "searched les trem" term? Amazon, nope. Sweetwater, nope. Guitar Center, nope. Reverb and Ebay are the only option and they are all EU sellers. I want to know simply, who in the USA actually stocks them?
To the best of my knowledge, nobody, but when I ordered mine (from France) delivery didn't take long at all. My only "issue" is the additional height it adds to the guitar. I use an SKB LP style case, and this trem makes it harder to close.
@@TheJoeFridayBand My issues is I then need to "on-ship" it to South America, that becomes problematic to do when you can't get a definitive price for an item. I find it astounding that Duesenberg do not have a distributor that has these on the western side of the Atlantic at all.
can the Les trem do a trem flutter (like on a FR trem when you flick or snap the trem arm and the tone quickly aggressively warbles before settling back to pitch)?
One small annoyance with Les Trem is that the lock nut that's inside the spring does not really hold and the bar becomes loose after short use. This can be fixed easily by wrapping couple of rounds of teflon thread seal tape around the screw.
Curious, it seems that it works the other way around to me. It seems to tighten with time, so it's become difficult to move it at all.
how do you fix this? would you get a replacement lock nut from the hardware store? if so what size? my tech recommended maybe using locktite lol.
mine is so whobbly. i love it but it’s driving me nuts. i just had it tightened and it’s loose again.
im having this problem as well! When I'm using the trem I can feel that there is too much space between the lock nut and the other parts inside the spring. kind of like a click when I push or pull. I have tried adjusting it but it just gets loose again after 10 minutes of playing. I have looked for the answer and found some guys using gorilla glue lol. Im going to try the teflon tape. sounds like it would work en wouldn't harm anything.
loctite works also
I want to stiffen the lateral movement of the arm, but the section on this vid in that regard is hurried, and vague....it would be nice to have some greater clarification as to how to adjust....
yes - I bought it and I installed it to an ESP Edwards "Michael Schenker Flying V" and it works fine. There are differences between the strings. By the high E-string I can trem a half tone below - by the deep E-String I can make Divebombs ...... btw. I bought an additional "roller bridge" for better tuning stability.
well , i have used this trem om my gibson es 335 for some time and now it's on my epi 2020 ( inspired by gibson ) ES 335 , and yes , it's works like a dream , no need for a roller brigde ! and it's way less expensive then a bigsby , also weighs less then a bigsby , and it is a easy fix , thank you duesenberg !!! the best trem there is for gibby style guitars !!!
Question - can the knob on the end of the trem arm be completely removed by screwing it off?
I'm in Finland. We got loads of Lutherans here, but I can't find one who knows a damn thing about fitting tremolo units.
The easy way to put a tremolo in my Hohner SE 35 without holes, and great price!!! Great product!!! The others choices are so expensives or you need make holes on your guitar.
You can't close the Les Paul case without removing the twang bar. Also, you can't install the trem on an SG with the bat's wing pickguard without cutting off a piece of the pick-guard.
The pickguard of an SG standard, the big one. If you have any smaller pickguard SG (like I do) then there's no issue
I bought your first model (the one with a wider bar) 20 years ago for a Gibson SG. It was super smooth and kept the tune awesomely. I sold it together with that SG. Maybe it’s time to buy this new model for another guitar.
Only downside is the allen screws that hold the bar can ding the bar and the bar often works its way loose
I drilled a divet into the bar to hold it in place.
Cool video and cool feedback from duesenberg to the audience here! I've been readin some questions and answers and really helped me out!!
Think i'm gonna try one! 🤔🙏✌
They quickly mention the lock nut that controls the tremolo arm.
Even if you do not adjust it, it comes loose or did for me over time. This to me seems like the major design flaw as your tuning instantly disappears.
I initially really liked it, but it is no longer usable to me as it loosens after minutes of use for me. I would have to use locktite to stabilize it at this point I think. Even then, that is a fix that i would like to avoid and instead have something mechanically sound. Until this point of weakness is addressed, I do not foresee buying another. I know this is a common issue also. I am willing to go with a hardtail in the meantime though as I prefer tuning stability above all else, which, is why I gravitated towards this tremolo over the Bigsby in the first place. It is a shame there is this one significant point of failure in an otherwise well thought out, smooth tremolo.
Well as Those Darling said: Screws get loose. Buy a new locking nut or use locktite or teflon tape. Should work just fine.
Would love to see a model to replace a wraparound bridge
That would be difficult. Have to be able to hold the strings, intonate, and pivot. It would be cool to see tho.
Great video! Will probably buy it because of this video!
There is some inconsistency in the operation of Les Trem. It does not return exactly to the original position when the bar is released after pulling it. Many strings are left little bit sharp. It is something in the design of Les Trem - not in the bridge, nut or tuners. If the hex nut is not tightened properly then the guitar goes easily out of tune, but even when the nut is fully tightened there is still some inconsistency in the operation. I wonder if the arm that is holding the spring is able to change its angle slightly even when the hex nut is fully tightened. There goes quite a bit force to the arm when then bar is used. The angle of the arm has an effect to the spring tension, which in turn has an effect to the tuning and its stability.
Just to add to this old comment that I super glued the spring to the arm and this did help with the tuning stability. It also prevents the spring dropping away when bending notes. The tuning stability is still not perfect but I guess that guitarnutbuster and ABM rollerbridge might help with that.
The self locking nut underneath the tremolo arm in my Les Trem is apparently not "self locking" anymore and the arm is getting way too loose all the time. Has anyone here found a solution for this? A replacement nut perhaps?
I really liked this product!
I really wanted to put on my Les Paul Special Epiphone I guitar! But unfortunately the values I managed to find on the internet, for my country, are not viable! A sadness, because I don't want to take imported product with low quality, and that will have holes in my guitar. :(
Can you still successfully "palm mute" with your hand on the bridge with this? It appears it is in the way......Thanks!
It's not in the way, you see the strings still go over the bridge saddle which is where you mute the strings.
I sugest to get a roller bridge as well especialy when you play heavy strings.
I don't think it's necessary as long as the nut and bridge are snag free everything works just fine. I have a les trem on my Hofner Verythin and have virtually zero tuning issues when using it. Great piece of kit
@@cuptie71 What strings do you use?
Fred Van der Linden ....10-46
Number 6: Can the Les Trem be used on a baritone guitar ?
Yes, that is possible!
Good video but the point on placing the guitar into the case spooks me a little.
apparently the arm comes out easily, so that's why they measure it from the tailpiece height and not the higher arm height.
The ~5cm long flat metal bar in Les Trem II is too soft/weak for anykind of bending. The metal bar in my trem has bent a lot due to bending notes and I doubt that it won't be too long until it has bent so much that I have to ditch the Les Trem II and find something else.
Would this work on a Rocket II? I only see the Bigsby style on Rockets in photos online.
What would be the best way to block the trem so it goes down only and not go out of tune when a string breaks or quickly going into Drop D tuning?
Yeah so I have the trim system and I have not been happy. I play neo soul music and use my trim all the time on every song and it always goes out of tune so much I don’t use the guitar anymore until I get another trim system it has fail me on stage plenty
Ps - love this casio watch
Is this Les Trem different then Les Trem II? Is that same company second version?
Do you make a tremolo that fits a telecaster?
Does it fit in a Gibson hardshell case?
You never got an answer because the answer is no way will a Gibson case close with this term on the guitar
@@jupitermoongauge4055 they were obviously skirting around this un the video
Can you get a firmer spring for these? I have one and I like it, but I would prefer it if it had a firmer action.
You can put one or more washers under the spring.
@@janattaaya Thanks for that 👍
Will fit on a duesenberg gran majesto?
Does anyone know if D'angelico guitar spacing fits this trem?
Is there any solution yet to the High-e string breakage with the Les Trem II? I see it's a common problem and I'm not the only suffering with this. What can we do? Thanks!
Roller brigde solved my issues with breaking E string.
in a month installed it has broken at least 8 strings E and B where the ball winds, I don't know what to do, I have tried with a washer, without them, with two and nothing, it does not seem to be solved
I need help the spring came out and now It doesn’t want to go back in as normal anymore
Hey Chuey,
just take off the strings and lift the arm assembly up. You should be able to put the spring in place with a little bit of pressure.
All the best,
- The Team
What guitar features 81.5mm bushing spacing? Every single guitar I've found a spec on ranges from 81.8-82.55mm.Will it fit any of these?How about screw size & threading?Any potential issues there?
Hi, do you guys have any Canadian retailers
Got mine in Canada from Cosmo Music
yo quiero una de esas guitarras suenan de lo mejor!!!!!!!!!
Is it possible to take the arm out?
Yes.
gibson les paul standard 2013's tailpiece length is 82.55mm, so that's the reason why it can't fit the les trem?
Can the knob at the end of the trem arm be removed (like screwing it off)?
Can you take the bar out
Because I only own a soft case for my sg
Yes you can
2 questions. First: When you play two strings at the same time and bend one of them the other one stays in tune? Second: If a string break do the others stay in tune? I
Hey Daniel,
thanks for getting in touch.
The LesTrem is not a locking tremolo so if one string breaks, the other ones will go out of tune just like on any other non-locking style tremolo.
Same goes for your question about the two strings played. This would be very minimal, though.
Let us know if you need anything else!
@@DuesenbergGuitars will it work for lp special style guitars and pull up like a flyod rose style trem and does it come in black
@@hikupmusicofficial u can pull up too
I have this trem system on my Gibson Les Paul, and high E-string breaks often in weird way. Among all 6 strings, only high e-string's loop to ball end get loosened, and string dies. I tried with different strings but usually end up with same result. So what should I do to fix it? Any helps?
Hey there!
This is unusual. Please get in touch with our German support team. They will be able to help you out!
Regards from Germany!
Solder the ball end wraps of the string prior to installation. The strings can slowly unwrap with bar usage. RUclips it. It is a fairly common practice.
This happens a lot to me too! It never happens on my Bigsby vibratos. Only on the Les Trem II. @DuesenbergGuitars
is it possible to install this on a guitar that isn't a combination bridge like a wrap around?
Hello , I have a Caribou with Les Trem !! What’s the best way to restring ? I have other guitars with a Bigsby there a nightmare !! Also can I go to my preferred gauge 9-42 !! Thanks
Could you stay in tune if you dive bombs and have locking tuners?
ordered 2 Duesenberg Les Tremolo ll’s from Thomann, one in gold and one in chrome. However, I want to order a roller bridge but one of my guitar's fingerboard radius is 12" and the other is 10" what do I do. Most of them have a 14” radius. That is why I cancelled the roller saddle and opted to lubricate the existing saddles and nut. Any recommendations, please? Any adjustable
height Tune O Matic roller bridges available?
Please tell me) Can the LesTrem be used on a telecaster guitar?🤓😁😂
Do you know if this will fit the stud spacing Etc. on the Guild T-Bird S-200 st? Specifically the
Duesenberg/Goldo Les Trem TLT2N .
Will it fit a Gretsch electromatic jet duo
Style guitar?
How does this setup work with different string gauges. Will it work with .9s .10s and .11s? Is it preferable to use any of those over another?
Hey Joe,
the LesTrem works with all common string gauges. The only limit is the size of the slots for the strings which can get too small when using very strong gauges.
Cheers!
Where to order?
I have a string through, is there any modifications i need to do?
Question do you make one for a telecaster
Is it normal for the bridge to move that much?
Will the Les Trem fit on an Epiphone Les Paul Goldtop Standard 50s reissue? It looks a bit off but would like confirmation if anyone knows. Thanks!
Fits my epiphone perfectly. Good luck
Hey guys I installed this on Ephiphone Wilshire p90 but unfortunatelly the tuning Is non-reliable. Any recommendation about how to fix it? Probably a new nut. I also added a rolled saddle bridge and I think it got worst
This can have a dozen different sources which are hard to pinpoint from the distance. Please talk to your local luthier or guitar shop.
So a rolling bridge is mandatory?
@@kevone08 I agree though not one Duesenberg I've looked at has one.
Would love to try this out, but the way that standard tunomatic bridge is moving doesn't look healthy at all. 1:35
Looks like it could warp the posts or cause them grind away the wood on the sides causing them to get loose.
Or are those bridge saddles just not slotted properly? Wondering how this would look with a Roller-Bridge.
This is our Duesenberg Floating Bridge System. This allows the bridge to rock back and forth to compensate for the rubbing of the strings on the saddles of the bridge.
We generally do not recommend roller bridges as they only work well when they have very good friction reduction which on the other hand weakens tone and sustain dramatically.
@@DuesenbergGuitars I see, thank you very much for the quick response and the info! So I do need your Floating Bridge System to make the LesTrem work? Or will normal or other Bridges work also, Rollerbridges aside?
I imagine the combination of FBS and LesTrem offers the best handling and gradual, finer control and also making it easier to do dive bombs or anything with more bend since the Bridge is working with you.
@@JustRockMySoul We would recommend to get the LesTrem first and see if there actually is a problem with your setup. Aside from the bridge, there are other factors involved that also have an influence on tuning stability - nut, tuners, and definitely a proper stringing method. It also depends on what you actually want to be capable of doing. Adding a slight shimmer to chords with the tremolo is generally not a problem, whereas heavy tremolo action where the strings actually start moving through different parts of the hardware requires a really good setup.
@@DuesenbergGuitars That is very sound advice to go off of. I do have pretty decent Grover Tuners, which I hope and guess wouldn't be an issue.
Judging by what you said neither should be the Tunomatic Bridge, given it is slotted properly. Do I need to worry about the force on the bridge at all? I'm afraid the rigid standard post will pull loose.
Considering the nut, I just fit a bone onr into my Les Paul and am assuming the material will wear down rather quickly. Guess a lockable metallic one would be better for that purpose?
When you say for the heavy action you need a really good setup, I assume that ideally includes your Floating Bridge.
Less force needed to use it and potentially adding more range?
it works on a epiphone special ii?
Will it fit om a firebird?
Hey there, so I have a les trem ii that I currently dont use because I kept snapping strings right at the ball end. Especially high E strings, like ALOT of strings. Any solutions to this problem? Am I doing something wrong?
I had the les trem ii installed on a epiphone dot with no issues what so ever then I put it on an Eastman T386 and it just didnt seem to mesh with that guitar.
Have you tried raising it? My first guess would be that the string angle is too steep.
yeah, i'd guess string angle or rough/sharp edges on the stock saddles are the culprit.
It happens all the time to me too! I thought I might be the only one but I searched online and see it's a common problem on the Les Trem II. Never happens with my Bigsbys.
I am making an instrument from scratch and want to get use this tremolo system. Which bridge will I need to purchase?
Hey Zach,
a regular Tune-o-matic style bridge will do. Some people like to use roller bridges but we found them to have a bad effect on the overall tone of the instrument.
You can get the Duesenberg Steel Saddle bridge here: store.duesenberg.de/en/hardware-parts/114/duesenberg-2019-3-point-radius-bridge?c=65
It is designed to rock back and forth when using the tremolo to reduce friction.
Cheers from Germany
The Les trem works with flat top guitars? my guitar is flat top so...
It absolutely does!
on my flat top SG Special 70's tribute the bushings have no collar, can I just go ahead with inserting both sets of your washings instead of changing bushings? thanks :)
Hey Emile,
you can do that and the LesTrem will work just fine. However, there's a risk that the lacquer could be damaged because the washers would sit directly on the lacquer without clearance. It also depends on if the bushings are sunk slightly into the body or if the stick out a little bit.
You will have to check that personally.
@@DuesenbergGuitars thanks for the reply guys! No danger of that as my guitar has no lacker finish but only satin. I am gonna get myself a Les Trem II and install a Göldo Maestro Arm on it ;)
Just use the same studs as the tail piece to hold it down with, they're going to fit perfectly, they're just higher but they don't get in the way of your hands at all,
I believe it would actually sound better with more contact to the face of the guitar, laquer damage doesn't matter, tone and playability do more so I feel...
Hi, just one question. Will this fit on a guitar with a hardtail bridge, or would some drilling or some other mods have to be involved?
Hey there! The LesTrem is designed to be an easy "plug-and-play" Tremolo by replacing a regular Stop-Tailpiece. If your guitar doesn't have a stop-tailpiece it doesn't mean the LesTrem is impossible to fit. It's a lot more work though, and a seperate bridge (Tune-O-Matic or similar) is absolutely necessary.
Example: Tele style guitar with a regular Tele bridge.
1) Remove the existing bridge
2) Drill holes and properly fit a tune-o-matic bridge
3) Drill holes and fit the LesTrem
4) Adjust the neck angle by shimming the neck
@@DuesenbergGuitars Thank you for the information.
Does it fit a Flying V with pickguard?
You never got an answer because the answer is no
Does it matter if my parts are metric or imperial in style?
You get a two of each it seems.
I was looking at the B5 style one. Are the Bigsby Vibramates compatible with these?
The Vibramates are not compatible with our version of the classic tremolo, but we do have our own adapterplate that allows you to mount a Duesenberg Diamond Deluxe Short Tremolo on the bushings of a Stop-Tailpiece. Similar to the Vibramate adapters.
DuesenbergGuitars I was looking to install it on a guitar with a hardtail bridge. It currently has a Tele Half Bridge on it. Do you have something for that?
@@averydeadhorse There are no adapterplates for mounting tremolos on Teles that we are aware of. They are typically bolted straight into the guitars top like on classic Tremolo Teles. You can do the same thing with our Tremolo, no problem, but you will have to drill holes into the top. You may have to modify the bridge so you can lead the strings from the Tremolo to the saddles. There is a lot of info on that online. The procedure would be the same with our Tremolo.
Best!
Do you have to enlarge holes to install it?
ruclips.net/video/zMu5nUYiX4w/видео.html
this guy said you have to enlarge the holes on your guitar to install it
ruclips.net/video/Yn3Q4QrejV8/видео.html
and in Peter's video I don't think he did it
they seems to have the exactly same guitar, so do you have to enlarge holes or not?
Is it possible on a Dot Epiphone ?
Yes
looks like a great option for my Charvel Desolation LP style guitar, except... it doesn't come in the black nickel finish the rest of the hardware on the guitar is. I wonder if i could find a company that could strip and resurface the components in black nickel?
Goldo, which is the parent company of Duesenberg, sell a black version. I got mine on eBay from a shop in France.
@@SeanMcDougallsPage oh cool. i'm looking for Black Nickel, but still it's good to know they're available in black somewhere. after a bit of research, i've found that apparently it's pretty normal to re-plate metal guitar hardware, so i'm probably going to find someone to do that. it'll cost extra, but the guitar's worth it to me, and besides, it will be extra customized if it has a one of a kind tremolo. thanks for the info though.
Would the Les Trem II fit on a Starplayer Special?
Yes it would! ;-)
@@DuesenbergGuitars I hope the guitar would fit into the original Duesenberg hard case too (it's a 2007 guitar, the case seems really slim)... Thanks a lot!
How was "Where to buy in the USA" not the highest "searched les trem" term?
Amazon, nope. Sweetwater, nope. Guitar Center, nope. Reverb and Ebay are the only option and they are all EU sellers. I want to know simply, who in the USA actually stocks them?
To the best of my knowledge, nobody, but when I ordered mine (from France) delivery didn't take long at all. My only "issue" is the additional height it adds to the guitar. I use an SKB LP style case, and this trem makes it harder to close.
@@TheJoeFridayBand My issues is I then need to "on-ship" it to South America, that becomes problematic to do when you can't get a definitive price for an item. I find it astounding that Duesenberg do not have a distributor that has these on the western side of the Atlantic at all.
Please check the store at www.duesenbergusa.com
ZagatoZee ....Thomann in Germany ship international.
can the Les trem do a trem flutter (like on a FR trem when you flick or snap the trem arm and the tone quickly aggressively warbles before settling back to pitch)?
Hello, i have one question. Does this tremolo with some drilling and new parts fit a fender telecaster?
@@DuesenbergGuitars thank you for the reply
question 6…will it adapt to a leftie….
There's no way any Gibson hard case will close with that contraption on the guitar. Very misleading video