S2 E12: Standardized Testing, Baltimore & Bud Light: Last Week Tonight with John Oliver
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- Опубликовано: 25 май 2024
- Season 2, Episode 12, May 3rd, 2015. John Oliver explains how standardized testing impacts school funding and student achievment, Baltimore experiences unrest after the killing of a man in police custody, and a Bud Light ad misses the mark.
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I just love Oliver's recurring impression of a French child
He's British, shitting on the French is part of his upbringing :D
He sounds like Dexter from Dexter's Lab.
Amazing how all these issues John pointed out 10 years ago are still absurdly relevant today - thank you for sharing !
Nearly every issue covered can be traced back to some corporation making a bunch of money. And so we continue the status quo’s no matter how many people or children are screwed over.
As a disabled student. Fuck these tests. So much time is wasted prepping for tests, using only rote memorization, and actively punishes reading comprehension that is not through a rigid lense, often only accessible to Neurotypical brains, and even then, sucks all the fun out of reading.
Oh and don’t forget that they can just ignore your IEP or 504 accommodations and claim you “Don’t need them” specifically for a standardized test, through the school board, without even reviewing your documents or having any disability training.
i dropped out for these exact reasons. literally Fs in all of my courses because of an ignored iep. the meeting to decide what accommodations i got was humiliating, and the only consolation is that im not alone. shit sucks ASS.
It’s “standardized” testing, they aren’t supposed to make accommodations, they’re supposed to see who meets the standards. You either pass the tests or you don’t.
@@jefffoy530 it affects your standing with college scholarships n shit
This. I encountered this so many times as an autistic individual.
As a retired teacher, I am glad you covered this! ❤😊
This is such a blast from the past. I'm genuinely curious about the teacher's perspectives, especially as a former IB kid. It felt like every year the teachers would go "Ok, we need to stop teaching you critical thinking because we didn't cover enough..rock types". FCAT science was so poorly thought out. XD
@@strixxslade5675So true. Once had a language arts teacher in 8th grade who kept her old projector because the new smart boards sucked at the time. Lol. Tech issues was one of the biggest complaints. She also cut out a unit to help us catch up on learning punctuation, spelling, and official grammar (usually white official grammar, tho she also taught us punctuation for various dialects when we read stories with them in it) because she was tired of reading papers with so many typos, lol.
She was a good teacher.
In my country we never had the type of standardized testing as it is usually portrayed in America. Our tests were always, aahm... For example, math, you had "quick exercises" like calculate this. And we had some "problems" ( as we call them ) to solve. For example, find the height of the pole between you and a certain building.
Or the main language test, where we have an initial part of text interpretation questions. Followed by grammar exercises and then a small text of various themes and forms (can be letter form, a resume, a prose, a poem etc). BUT NONE OF THIS as a multiple choice. We rarely if ever have multiple choice exercises in tests.
But i kinda fear for the kids if we ever adapt these standardized tests, because i have seen.....not great results in the long term. Mainly where you check the choices you have and the kids focus on trying to "make one fit" instead of resolving it from scratch.
If my english is flawed, i apologize.
In 3rd grade, my class spent probably at least a MONTH just preparing for standaedized testing. We didn't learn anything new, just practiced test questions. Such a waste of time.
Thank You HBO. I so love watching all these episodes from the Beginning in full. What a wonderful History lesson, and Thank You John and staff for creating such amazing content that is still relevant today!
People should also know that Pearson hires teachers on the side to grade these tests becuase they are so underpaid.
That's pretty much standard practice, though-pretty much all my AP teachers (back in the early aughts) had done at least one year of grading for College Board, which helped them teach us the difference between a _3_ and a _4._
The fact that they all, without exception, found room to teach us *content of value* that I still remember to this day is a true testament to their dedication as educators and to the quality of my public high school.
You must have missed when John said around 24:40 that they use craigslist to hire graders with teaching experience preferred.
My best friend is a professor at a community college and she's been grading AP exams every summer for like a decade now for the extra money. My favorite story she told me is one year the students on east coast leaked the essay questions for the AP Psychology exam on twitter. So the Collage Board had to rush and write new questions for the west coast. So that year the people grading the Psychology exams had twice as much work to do. They were grading that year not far from where I lived so I met up and picked her up from the location, she said it was hilarious because everyone else was leaving for the day and was like "Later psychology suckers!"
I would give anything to have the biggest story of the week be “President of Venezuela gets hit in the head by a Mango” again.
Or Dan Quayle misspelling potato. That was like a week, lol
Honestly thank you John for mentioning a girl having ADHD in this. So many people still don’t think girls or any female people can have ADHD brains, so this being so casually used is nice to see again.
I also have ADD. I was diagnosed late in life (in my 20's) but my younger brother was diagnosed with ADHD in elementary school. I was "missed" because I didn't have the hyperactivity behavior, as where he did. I was labeled "day-dreamy" or not paying attention. I struggled through school because my disorder wasn't discovered early enough. I think I would have done much better in HS if I'd had the tools to help me. I just thought I was stupid, but I am not, I know that now. I have opted for my kids to be exempt from these stupid tests every time they have one.
I just got diagnosed as ADHD last year when I was 39. It was overlooked in females for a long time because it manifests differently in them. I also had amazing coping skills for the longest time. However a couple years ago I started grad school after being out of school for 15 years. And turns out the ways I used to manage and cope with things didn't work anymore. I couldn't figure out why I was barely staying above water. My therapist noticed and suggested I might have ADHD and to talk to my psychiatrist. I was like "Yeah sure whatever." Talked to him about everything and he was like yeah this all adds up. I kept fighting it and he was like "The fact that you're fighting it makes it truer." I'm on 40MG of extended release Adderall now and the noise in my mind is so much quieter.
It’s so weird that stereorype exists. I have tons of ADD/ADHD friends and every single one is a woman.
@@PretendingToBeAHuman It's really just because- of course- ✨sexism ✨
I''m not a doctor, so don't take this as anything concrete, but I'm pretty sure that autism/adhd symptoms can demonstrate differently in cis men/women
And guess what the DSM-V is based off of! Yup, cis *men*
Of course it is. I'm so sorry for you women who can't get a goddamn diagnosis.
@@wiscogirl81 Good on you! I’m AFAB (and non-binary) but wasn’t diagnosed as ADHD till I was 17 smack in the middle of Junior Year of HS. I’m also autistic, apparently on the gifted scale, and have some learning disabilities, some of which I didn’t know about till I was 20). The trauma of it is so freaking hard tbh, especially if people expect you to just know how to accommodate or get help…without having 10+ years of supports like many of the other kids. For me personally, they refused to give me an IEP, gave me a 504 that was almost never followed, and forced me into meds despite my having complex health issues and wanting to try non medicinal aids first. :/
Shits hard. I’m glad you are looking out for your kids.
*_Edit / PSA:_*_ The air date is now in the video description! Thank you, Team LWT!_
Since the hero who did it for S01 hasn't gotten here yet:
Originally aired May 3, 2015
Now if only the playlist could be in release order, instead of 35->1
Ugh, Pearson.
They've been hounding me my whole life. From testing in elementary and high school, to charging me $300 for a basic algebra book in college, to making me pay out the nose for continuing education courses to keep my already overpriced cyber security certifications.
There's plenty of stuff that'd be fine being for-profit. Education is not one of them.
Nor is anything with inelastic demand or a natural monopoly.
Love how the GOP and far right had no problem with bottles of BudLight that promoted SA actually going out into the public but a single case of specialty ones made exclusively for a social media influencer was boycott-able simply because that person was trans.
The way his old shows were produced hit different. More camera angles, more personal, more connection to the live audience. Now it feels like he’s still stuck in a pandemic box.
I hear you… but I still think they’re bangers. Banger after banger after banger after banger after banger. If I do say so myself.
That's Wyatt Cenac in the middle of the Bud Light fake ad. Criminally underrated comedian
I love that man. The music breaking right when he shakes his head gets me every time!
So Bill Cosby is doing Bud Light's slogans now?🤣
First time I watched this episode I was preparing for Pennsylvania's middle school standardized test the PSSAs (I think there's still a comment on the original segment upload from me at the time). Watching it now after going through years of PSSAs, Keystones, Regents, PSATs, and of course the SATs, this just makes me so grateful that no matter what bullshit adult life throws at me at least I never have to take those standardized tests again.
I was good in school too and got good grades but because of my math test I almost didn’t graduate. Never mind I had consistent passing grades, was a dual credit student, ranked 11th in my class, was in many clubs and competitive teams, because of ONE test I wouldn’t have been able to graduate on time. Luckily I did on my last chance.
And then as a teacher I saw my students struggle the same way and that the test is constantly changing and changing and making it almost impossible. Now every subject requires a written portion of the test, including math and science.
Its time to stop or heavily reform the testing system.
Yes PLEASE. I was not that great a student. I found out late I was neurodivergent (ADHD and autistic) and post Hs that I have maths and reading disabilities. This system DOES NOT WORK for disabled students. Be it physical or mental tbh, mostly because of attendance and strictly unfair (to all) and Neurotypical standards of teaching. Universal design needs to be implemented.
And this gets worse if a kid has multiple disabilities, and/or is 2E (meaning twice exceptional) a term for students who are disabled and gifted. (And while of course the tests for what is deemed gifted and which forms of intelligence are not perfect, and dependent on the diagnostician and their bias and training, it’s still a pretty important group to pay attention to.)
I’m honestly convinced that schooling was never about education, otherwise they wouldn’t keep ignoring new psychological research in what students need as growing humans just for money and to make cog-like workers for college and beyond.
When I was in my junior year of HS, the school tried to add in the incentive that if you attended all 3-5 (can't remember entirely) days of standardized testing, you got entered into a raffle to win a free iPod. I remember talking the most shit about it then won, lol. Never really used it, though. I don't remember even receiving those test scores.
What if you don’t even have a test on some days? Idk if it was the same for you, but mine was done by class unless it was for big exams like the ACT.
Edit: This was for finals mostly done through standardized tests.
I completely forgot about the budlight thing from 9 years ago, it kinda makes the Dylan fiasco seem like what it was all along... nothing serious at all.
Dylan got harrassed/d**th threats, so some people took it very seriously (and then she had to too for her own safety)
It shows the company is run by morons
During an early education staff meeting (PreK-2), our head of curriculum came at the beginning of the year and she asked us if we wanted kids to score low on the first test. We answered, “…no…..” and she said “YES! Yes we do because then we can see more growth on the second test.”
I was just waiting for Mango No. 5 ;)
I've opted my kids out of every stardized testing that I was able to because they are stupid and unnecessary! All of my kids have been on honor roll every single quarter since they began high school, so I personally think these tests are redundant.
Back in 2011, in my senior year of high school I did a research paper on tenure for teachers and found out about No Child Left Behind. I had never heard of it. After graduating, I went into college to become a teacher. When I got to do my student teaching, it was 2014 and the old reliable way of grading potential teachers through a portfolio review was tossed out. They then started a new way, evaluated by people in England, run by Pearson. And the professors didn't like it, they didn't know how people on the other side of an ocean would determine if you were fit to teach. So that, coupled with being unable to actually help individual students due to teaching to the test and/or large class sizes, and a tough job market made my decision to not teach after getting my Master's. I can only imagine how much worse it currently is.
I don't get the point of standardized testing when kids are already tested in classrooms. Standardizing education for all kids has never worked and it's why so many kids don't do well in school. Education needs to be more individualized so that each child has a chance at learning what they are interested in and can understand. Trying to make every child learn at the same level and rate will never work.
Exactly. Plus it doesn’t account for disability AT ALL. Universal design standards would help a ton. They can be useful for non disabled people, and give disabled people what they need at the same time.
Not a fan of standardized tests at all, just adding in as a former teacher: non-standardized assessments/tests in classrooms are created by individual teachers. Nothing exists in a vacuum, so a teacher in FL and a teacher in NJ can each create a test on the same topic but the questions and answers can be pretty different based on their own education, preferences, school administration/departmental focus, inherent biases, local culture, etc. On top of that, grading the assessments isn’t entirely objective, either, especially when considering individual students (eg “Collin was having a bad mental health day that day so his essay doesn’t exactly make sense even though I know he knows it because he got it right in all the classwork, I’ll give him a chance to rewrite for a higher grade”, or “Angelina’s ADHD often means she skips questions unintentionally so I’ll ask her these that she missed”-things that make sense on a human level but aren’t technically “objective”).
Theoretically the students in FL and the students in NJ should achieve the same level of reading/writing/comprehension/analysis/research/math/science/etc skills. However, data collection is needed to prove that the quality of education is the same in different states (and even within the same state) and the most consistent way to get accurate data would be to ask every student nationwide the same questions. That’s the problem, though-wanting an objective assessment that can show the metrics of student achievement nationwide and each year of their education makes sense in theory only. What we’ve seen is that when put into practice (ie what teachers have been saying all along) is that there isn’t a standardized test that actually be objective, accurately assess an entire student’s year of learning in xx number of questions, apply all accommodations, eliminate any human error from student or grader, etc…. I understand and appreciate the thought behind all of it, but it was never going to work the way anyone wanted (other than the people making money off it, fuck you Pearson) so the result is inaccurate, manipulated data that is being used to make life-altering decisions for students and teachers. It’s sickening and the tests should just be thrown into the dumpster fire with the rest of the bullshit.
@@starksandrecreation I understand and concur with everything you said. I remember growing up in Iowa in the 70s and 80s having to do the ITBS or Iowa Test of Basic Skills tests every year and no one liked it, but it was mandatory so we weren't even given a choice. I had actually failed 8th grade twice because I quit going to school due to excessive bullying, but that's a different story. Anyway, I had moved to live with my aunt in Indiana and went to school most of the year there and finally passed the 8th grade. When the time had come for the yearly tests, they had the ITBS tests there as well, which was unknown to me before that those were given in states other than just Iowa. I did really well on those tests then and one of the highest in the school and the teachers took notice and told me that I tested at the 10th grade level even though I was in my third year of 8th.
Another kind of test I don't agree with is IQ tests because they don't really tell anything about the people taking them. Intelligence of anyone cannot be realistically measured since everyone can have their own level of intelligence. Also, just because someone might be considered intelligent doesn't mean they are smart and no 2 people should be compared with each other when it comes to intelligence. Testing just always feels like a competition and to me that is unfair to children and to society as a whole.
I would love to see the US education system revamped and redone to resemble more like what they have like in Finland or Denmark or whichever countries it is where they have a more individualized system. I don't have any first hand experience or anything, just going by what I've seen reported. Students are not all trained with the same regurgitated memorization skills and they aren't tested. They are not expected to go to school until later in the morning after they have had adequate time to rest. They are encouraged to learn about things that they are interested in, which makes sense since not everyone is going to be interested in the same things and that's why some students don't do as well in some subjects as others do. It just seems like a better system over in those countries and it should be something we implement in the US.
Don’t forget they can deny you accommodations for these tests too, even with a 504 or IEP documented.
Oh, and some places that use this for school funding, are able to ignore any test scores of students who are legally considered disabled (such as with an IEP or 504) so they’re scores are not counted towards the total average or scores if they are lower, which would lower funding.
19:18 Furthermore, I believe the reproductive model for livestock required first *assuming a spherical cow.*
(physics joke-no apologies)
A spherical cow in a frictionless vacuum, on an infinite plane of uniform density.
I was a high school student 20 years ago. My life at that time was so fricked up that I was physically in and mentally out in class. I just bs’d my way through a lot of those standardized tests.
Ooh, I remember "The Hare and the Pineapple!"¹ There's a lot of nuance to the incident, as the initial reporting was based on students' imperfect recollections of the exam.
At the end of the day, you can find the passage-as well as its original form as written by Daniel Pinkwater²-and decide for yourself how fair of an assessment it was.
¹Possibly from the first time I watched this episode, lol
²Pinkwater was, to put it mildly, _miffed_ that he became, briefly, the face of ridiculous standardized testing. It's worth reading his interview with NPR.
It's also odd that you could figure out four of the questions without even reading the story and just by what is said about it in the episode, yet John said that his staff were completely stuck on the questions.
So they didn’t even ASK him to use his writing???
@@ErutaniaRoseI can’t find an NPR interview, but there’s one with Pinkwater and WSJ called “Nonsense on top of Nonsense”.
He did get paid for the use of an excerpt for “educational purposes”, but he didn’t know the extent of how they’d change the story. It was originally a fractured fable within a novel titled Borgel-a supposedly-senile old man telling his grandson about a hare racing an eggplant and the eggplant losing, with the moral of “don’t bet on an eggplant”.
It was never supposed to make sense (he describes himself as an advocate of nonsense), so when kids call/message him complaining about it, he tells them he thinks the tests are stupid, too
Think you meant "Venezuela's leader, Geraldo Rivera...".
I was one of the kid's who took that pineapple's don't have sleeves test 🤣 I remember coming out of that test and everyone was in the hallway fighting over the question about which animal was the wisest. I never knew it got so much coverage! It's been over a decade since that test and that stupid pineapple is still burned into my brain lol
DEAR HBO:
WHY IS THIS SHOW NOT AN HOUR???
I don't think John could survive an hour.
a standardized test is good in theory, the issue is the delivery of the test,
first, it should be develop by the government themselve and not by multiple private companies so the test is actually standardized,
second, it should reflect what each grade should learn so it's about teaching and learning rather than studying for a specific test
third, tests should be develop to ensure the accuracy and validity of the tests
That last joke on Bud Light was legendary!
I was expelled from high school in 10th grade. I scored in the 99th percentile on my GED. These tests are MADE for kids to fail. It's a way for the U.S. not to give states money for education. Those assholes just dont want to give poor people a chance. If you dont have enough money, then you're not allowed a voice. I never was brought in front of a committee. I was never given a chance. I stood up for a person being mistreated, and was expelled from school. The United States are real for a person who can afford it. Otherwise, you are literally just a lump taking up space.
And here in the UK i only remember taking at lest 3 standard test: end of primary school, I believe just before year 10 (not 100% sure thou) & the the GCSEs tests.
I'm from Finland and I don't remember taking any during my compulsory school years, I don't believe we have them at all. But of course it's possible things have changed since I left school.
At this point, I wonder how many calls the team makes to people / companies / etc and ask with a straight face: yeah, that weird thing you did last time in this video, can you come over to the studio and do it again? And from the looks of it, all those calls were answered with an enthusiastic YES
Wow, I was still living in Venezuela when the messages by mango happened, it’s been years.
The thing about that pineapple story is that if it was released today the scandal would be that Pearson used AI to write its passages, but this was released almost a decade ago so the content of the passage is somehow even more ridiculous in hindsight because someone wrote that
True, but I'm stuck on the "barely" working a Doors lyric. That means that it kinda does work.
_I'm one of the nerds who LOVED tests. It was my ONLY gift - and in grade school, middle school, and high school is not really the gift you're looking for... Rather, I would have chosen "beautiful, not too tall, and long hair." Being the "smartest" did zero for the much desired popularity that I yearned for. I took IQ tests, placement tests (in 8th grade, I ranked as a college freshman,) ALL the tests. So - I dropped out of high school - TWICE! Popularity was the driving force and it was achieved - I was a badass. But, I screwed up my future, broke my parents hearts, and dated a lot of losers. STAY SMART! I did go to university later, after MORE tests. Got those degrees!_
We dont do a ton of standardized testing, but in my (much past) experience in the early 2000s, the questions on a lot of those tests ARE hinky. I never did on those tests as well as i did in the classes themselves. I always felt they were not always a good representation of your knowledge in the subject.
Those 6 cops still have their jobs and one gets a nice promotion
That pineapple and rabbit story is actually a brilliant work of surrealist literature, are you kidding me?
The article is fine, it was the context it was presented in that was the problem 😅
I actually remember the Pineapple section. That was the hot topic of conversation for a while
As a former high scorer on these damn things, it was all bullshit. I just bubbled the most correctish answer
I took the ACT that had the pineapple and the hare story. I still remember the stupid thing over a decade later
Here we are almost a decade on and not a damn thing has changed. It's like the Temptations sang all those years ago, ain't nobody interested in learning except the teacher.
The logo of standardized test companies collection thing one of them was the company my school district used; I had a flashback to when I had a breakdown in seventh grade over failing my English standardized (state-mandated) test when I was reading at a college level
When watching this show i feel like we are living in the Idiocracy world.
And John is the only person smart enough to see how stupid we really are and points it out…
And that was the last time bud light had a controversial campaign
Sounds a lot like Pearson testing had access to AI technology early on to make all those books for nothing.
That pineapple question straight up, seems like something Ai made
Dang, I really genuinely thought I knew where Venezuela was 😅
I wish I could’ve boycotted my standardized tests back in the day. Wait, actually I did one time….
I am not sure that "Down for whatever" the most appropriate campaign after the Dylan Mulvaney fiasco. I thought they were trying to get distance...
The hare and the pineapple.
It barely makes good Doors lyrics. 😅😅😅😅😂😂😂😂
I was a horrible student. But my teachers weren't to blame. I actually liked a lot of my teachers. They tried to get me to participate. I just wouldn't
I found Venezuela right away then I thought oh yea…I’m from Europa.
It's amazing that behind every thing that is very bad to people, there's companies that profit like hell🤔
Absolute legend! This guy never misses
Thank you
I miss standardized tests.
In the situation, a pineapple not having sleeves isn't a moral, it's a fact. The moral would be that the "strong" eat the "weak" (in this case literally). I know this isn't the point of the video, but I feel that even nowadays it would be the kind of questions one would see on a test because AI were used in the writing process and such.
in the 9 years since this episode aired, I've graduated high school and university and become a paraeducator--basically a teacher's aide that works specifically for students with learning disabilities and I can tell you the tests that the students are made to take are one of the biggest stressors they face the entire fucking year. And, what I think is worst, is that my school is not allowed to tell students they have the right to opt out. These are students whose parents are almost always overworked and rarely tuned into when the tests take place and their students rarely remember to tell them, and it's taken on faith that if they think their student shouldn't test they will remember to advocate for them. its fucking shameful
Could just copy and paste but I won't. Thank you!
Americans: let's outsource everything to for-profit companies
Also Americans: why does everything in this country suck unless you're rich!?
Just another reason I don't miss any Budwiser product. And WOW! Where can I go to opt out of my employer's BS "inspirational" slogans like "Teamwork makes the Dream work?"
Well the Bud Light thing aged nicely
Can you guys put the playlist in the right order? I want to be able to hit play on the playlist and watch it in order. I have to manually select each video or it auto plays backwards.
First episode I ever watched. The rest is history now.
I just watched a Netflix special on Reading Rainbow, the series co-creator noted that the show was shut down in part because of the No Child Left Behind policy due to schools and others in the education department wanting "hard numbers" on how the show helped kids versus just looking at the results that were obvious to all who saw them. That, plus this video, proves that everything about this program is wrong, and all who profit off it should be ashamed of themselves. ...but you don't have to take my word for it!!!
I passed a pre calculus class in high school with an A without breaking a sweat, but my SAT math score was below average. So clearly that class was too easy, or the SAT is bullshit
People bashing Bud Light.. Times haven't changed that much
13:37 these are rookie numbers. (but I admit american tests probably have more weight on them)
Wyatt Cynac, where have you been all these years?
wowww I did not expect to see Pearson's name pop up here. There are subreddits dedicated to hating this company.
Maduro means mature in PT-BR. And as Mango is a fruit, suited.
Is that Rachel Feinstein before she got famous? XD
I find it funny when he does do the geography joke the sad thing about it for me though is I'm actually really good at geography so I knew that was Venezuela the whole time the second one was Bolivia and the third one was Paraguay so yeah
If you doubt this comment please post a photo or question about a particular placement of the country and I will answer it I'm looking at my phone the whole day and will answer immediately
How far will a man go?
Wow... Bud Light not being cancelled after probably promoting SA BUT basically tanked after being promoted by a transwoman SAYS alot about the targeted demographic.....and the number of them in the US..
Run women, RUN!!!
22:00 Or a univesity student who has had to buy one of their overpriced books.
8:22 😝
Some guys like beer... I would drink any hard liquor... hard lemonade... hard soda...
beer is just water and hops... why does most of the world like it? WTF knows...
This was an interesting episode, but why didn't they mention that Russell Simmons was substituting for John Oliver in it?
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so I'm not a fucking idiot the American Edumaction system done failed me
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It says "no from your vocabulary" not "no from their vocabulary". Get a grip people.
But when I say the same thing about bud light now, I'm transphobic
Teachers have given us little choice. There's no other way to objectively measure their productivity.
Person allegedly being screwed over by standardized testing: "I do GOOD in school." Hmm... looking 14-17 and doesn't know what an adverb is :/ I recall 90s standardized tests. I scored top 10% without studying. At the same time, I had ADHD and dyslexia. Get over it, stop flipping through your phone, and start paying attention in the classroom. And do some extra studying if you have a weak spot. I only had to start studying hardcore when I chose to take AP courses. HS is designed for basically anyone to pass. In fact, I'm angry some of my courses prior to AP didn't have me studying more. (But yes, some other things in this video were not right to do to students and teachers.) And I don't get what is to be done about anxiety at school... these are lessons a person needs to learn to become an adult. I don't recall anyone vomiting ever. Every time I took any test, I was a little anxious. That's life. You push through it if you value success.
Some people legitimately are better test takers than others. For example, I am an excellent test taker and can easily get high scores on tests even if I haven't studied or straight up don't know the content. Meanwhile, I have a cousin who can study for hours and can fully master a concept and then score very low on a test. She and I have similar levels of intelligence and I watched her work much harder than I did in school, yet our test scores don't reflect that. Not every student is the same and what is easy for one student is not always easy for everyone. Your experiences are valid but they are not universal.
Arrogance is one of the worst qualities in a person.
It also helps that the students are tested on a piece of writing or equations that they're able to look at again and again. Students should be able to answer questions about something they read. That's what college is about.
Usually grades and test scores correspond. That is why they should both be used for college admissions. In theory, teachers are more subjective and the tests are objective
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@@bohemianfarm4467 I see this kind of thing all the time where people have to walk on eggshells if they know they did a good job so that the people who didn't don't feel bad. This might be the law of the land on places like Reddit, but I was glad to find people can talk about adult concepts like blame and fault and good job when I got hired at a company.
The fact is if you aren't able to do simple HS mathematics, either your teacher messed up hardcore or you simply weren't doing one of the two duties kids have at school: Learn that basic stuff they teach you like addition, subtraction, your times tables, fractions, etc.
The other duty I'd argue is to make some friends, but I guess that might also offend you if you happen to have antisocial personality disorder or something. In that case, I'm so sorry you don't adhere to the model used to judge 99% of students on that front like you apparently don't adhere to the model that 99% of students can learn the basics of our universe. THIS IS A CELL. THE POWERHOUSE OF IT IS THE MITOCHORNIA. SUBTRACTION IS LIKE ADDITION IN REVERSE. lmao... calling this arrogance. Man, we are talking about K-12. Lord have mercy. I'm not talking about taking a MENSA IQ test and scoring in the top 0.01% or something. The curriculum is literally designed for everyone to pass if they put some work in. And I had to put some work in too, because my reading memory is trash due to having dyslexia. Guess what I did on tests? I freaking reread the passages, wrote down important points on some paper as I read, etc. And when I studied? I had to learn in 5-15 minute bursts, because I have ADHD. If you were neurotypical, you have absolutely no excuse.
@@abbycolby4543 Thanks for the midnight fairytale story. I'll sleep well with it. No, K-12 tests are literally some of the most simplistic expressions of knowing basic K-12 information. The only exception is if your cousin has literal mental disability in which case I'm sorry he has an actual disadvantage when it comes to K-12. For the rest of the 99% of the population, you learn stuff like "The mitochondria is the powerhouse of the cell," and you get a great score on tests. You could use a form of this argument when tests start venturing into more puzzling questions like in college, but in HS on standardized tests, it is about as easy as any test will get. The topics are easy, and the questions are easy.