Endeavour OS - Installation and First Look
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- In this video, I'm going to take a quick look at Endeavour OS, an Arch-based Linux distro that is a fork of the now dead Antergos project. It uses the Calamares installer, the XFCE desktop and promises a friendly community.
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Derek, I already sent your video link to the official EndeavourOS Telegram channel. I am a member there, the devs will be thrilled.
Thank you, Derek. Nice to see what Xfce looks like here.
5:18 - you just wasted some time - there was no need to run Gparted for this virtual machine because you later chose "Erase Disk" in the installer. Just click "Install Endeavor on disk" and Calamares will take care of disk partitioning / formatting.
6:56 - no - you don't need to check the "boot" flag in Legacy mode if GRUB is installed into MBR. (BTW: run GParted after installation and check this flag ...)
True, but to Derek's defense that pre-installation window was really badly designed. I hate that they used tabs to separate information from the install, and that "Create Partitions" button is kind of suggesting that you need to do that step before clicking the Install Endeavour button.
That's what I was thinking! I'm no where near dt level, but even I was like wait couldn't he have just chose the second option to erase disk through the installer process?.......
@@malysps true, I let the installer erase the disk and it failed, so I used gparted. The installer had no problem after that.
I tried Endeavour OS out last week. Thought the theming wasn't too bad, I've seen better looking XFCE desktops though.
The real problem came when I noticed that it does not have a graphical package manager pre-installed, which is a major
issue for a supposedly 'user-friendly' and 'beginner-friendly' distro. I'm not chastising it, I know this is only the first release,
but they really should have GNOME Software or Pamac pre-installed for graphical package management.
have the same impression. I have it too
tested - Endeavor currently does not approach Antergos.
Have it de-installed again because not user friendly for me.
For normal users, distributions like Manjaro, LinuxPCOS,
Mageia, Pardus-xfce, etc. the better options - or the same
a naked As-Linux (Arch-linux OS)
For me, the whole EndeavorOS stuff is more of a game - whether that
to come to Antergos? stays open ...
Currently it is a very large construction site and not for users
Option -
but you will continue to watch. Currently it is rather .. simple
said ... immature shit
@@hermifelder93 2 years later and the endeavourOS project has made a huge amount of progress since, it's now a very streamlined and stable installer with a ton of DE options.
@@ChristopherGray00 i will check it out....thank you, best regards
There is good coverage of installing alternative DEs and Desktop managers in the Endeavour OS Wiki on the web site. In addition, they have a great presentation of the Kalu app, also on the wiki. I like Kalu enough that I am installing it on all of my arch-based systems. Overall, I really like the Endeavour OS environment, the use of the Calamares installer, and the beginnings of great support on the Wiki. PS: When installing endeavour, you do not need to partition the disk first, Calamares will handle that for you. The pop-up on the initial screen is deceptive. It is best to use the installer on the main taskbar to initiate the installation. Just my thought after using this DE for 2 weeks.
I'm amazed by how sleek and nice it looks. Love it :)
plot twist
the password is two very obscure chinese logograms
😱
my whole life is a lie, i'm going to switch my name, country, and delete the internrt, thank you for opening my eyes
inb4 the password is ":)" and not "dt"
That's a weird vim command :3
I really like their XFCE spin 🥰
Update in 2021: the installer has it's own partition manager now
Thanks Derek, i love the way You keep the new distro come. Here in my country I saw a video that slam out this coming distro. I'm enjoy to see there are more different voices out of chorus :D
cheers
fabbri
Thanks, Fabrizio!
Thanks, DT. Like you, I'll keep following Endeavour and no doubt install it sometime in the future. Definitely looking promising :)
I gave Endeavour OS a look in one of my vids and it was ok. I also gave ArcoLinuxB KDE a look and actually liked it better. In fact I liked ArcoLinux so much I put it on my secondary desktop system.
Great disto in the making Derek . Waiting for the net installer to be complete so I can take a look at the KDE version. : )
Just installed Endeavour earlier today myself after about 4 years of Ubuntu-based distros, and it was definitely the foot in the door I needed to the Arch world. I had tried Manjaro a couple weeks ago, but was trying to use pamac-gtk to install AUR packages, and it was constantly complaining and choking on dependencies and needing a lot more babysitting than yay (the command line AUR installer that comes with this) did. Now I'm pacman'ing and yay'ing from the command line like a pro.
thanks for covering this DT i loved antergos myself : )
For Arch it doesn't get any easier. I gave it a spin since I wanted to upgrade my Mint Linux install anyway, thus it was perfect timing. Looks good too. Seems very, insanely fast on my i5 6300u ultrabook. I do like that it's fairly minimal to boot, it's at least functional. But agreed VLC would be a better choice, but it's a beautiful desktop. Not bad for a first go around.
I think the problems you had in Antergos was that cnchi (the Antergos installer) was sometimes failing to auto-update when the live environment booted. There was a fix to just update cnchi in the live environment, and then running it.
i suspect ISOs foe the other desktops and WMs are incoming they just shipped XFCE first. to get a product out the door
I would appreciate a Deepin DE build
No. The offline installer will always be Xfce only. But their net installer is almost finished, and that one will offer 10 DEs /WMs.
17:11 - RIP terminus-font.
Good to see that this distro ships it by default, but it have been stricken as well by Pango 1.44 xD
DT, what are your thoughts about all this FreeType/Harfbuzz shenanigans and Pango devs dropping support all of a sudden without really making a big deal out of it?
Btw, I use Arch 😉
@RDE Lutherie Me, my mom and one of my brother uses Arch
@João Eduardo Others 7 brothers uses Windows 10
Thank you for this indepth demo and commentary of an OS that is mostly friendly. At first, I thought that the folks in the forum were a bit "elitists" in demeanor but now that I have have time to spend there, they really are mostly friendly and also greatly regard this distro (as I do too. Especially newcomers to arch). I think it is a fantastic free and open source windows and mac desktop alternative. Peace!
I have to say as a first release it looks pretty nice. I will have a hard time replacing Manjaro Deepin though but I will probably load this up on one of my Dell Laptops and give it a spin. Thanks!
Endeavour OS has gotten so much better since this video, wow.
Considering you didn't seem to have any problems, and it's their first out the door, it looks like Endeavor OS is off to a good start. I am a little concerned about using what appears to be an ISO package set as opposed to pulling the latest packages from the Arch repos during installs. It's usually not a good idea to let an Arch install get too far behind the repos before updating. Wonder if they're going to change that in the near future, or update ISOs more often.
They need a more desktops. A kde or cinnamon would be great 🤤
All those popups would really annoy me. I'd have to shut all that off. I'll check for and do updates when I feel like it. I like XFCE and they make it look pretty sleek right out of the box. I'm glad this installation is a bit light as well. I don't like how some distros include a ton of extra software that I won't use and have to uninstall.
Thank you very much for sharing this.Antergos is what pulled me into Linux but died right after and I’ve been searching ever since. Currently using pop os and love it but definitely gonna check this out.
Love and use this Arch based distro
I use Antix as a minimal distro. It takes less than 100 Mb of RAM
The ISO is less than 2 Gb and it comes with a ton of packeges.
Confirming that endeavourOS works on Lenovo ThinkPad T495 only thing i had to do post install was systemctl enable bluetooth , followed by systemctl start bluetooth. then i had persistent bluetooth after every boot.
What Windows Manager do you use on your Lenovo? I love KDE; but, I had moved to XFCE (in my case Manjaro XFCE) because this WM has a better battery efficiency (probably less CPU usage, lol). PS.: I tested all the main distros with KDE and absolutely all of them have high battery consumption =*(
Luiz Cláudio KDE desktop environment is fairly heavy so it won’t feel as snappy as xfce. Also with KDE you’ll need to update arch based distros more often
Installed it on an old Lenovo G780 laptop which had 3 versions of Linux already on it. I elected to replace one of the versions/partitions and it installed without issue. When I rebooted, I still had the option to boot in any of the 3 versions which included Endeavour. I took the .bashrc file from ArcoLinux and imported it because I love Erik's aliases. After updating and installing a few apps, I installed plasma. So far it has worked without any issues. Nice way to install an Arch distro (not to mention ArcoLinux).
Endeavour OS website said it uses xfce out of the box...
You can bash Cinche installer but what you can't take away from it was the fact that Antergos automatically installed all updates during the installation of the OS.
I think I’ll give Endeavor OS a try. Always wanted to try Arch, but didn’t feel like going through a lengthy install process.
Mubashir Haroon I didn’t say it was hard. It just takes too long. I like to just install quickly and get to the things I want to do.
You need to do a bunch of stuff after install arch, i tried kde and xfce and power saver/lock screen didn't work then i just installed cimnamon and everything work right of the box
Agustin Casas Glad to here that Cinnamon is working well for you!
hey derek ive been a fan of your videos for a long time and have been wanting to do a video on linux on my channel, since my channel is a gaming channel what do you think i should do? should i just come out with a video on a review ive been wanting to do? like the zorinos tablet that has been teased on the website? it'd mean the world to hear your opinion on this. thank you!
3 min install 13 to 16 mins :)
Yup. I wanted to see the endeavor distro but all I got here was "how to install endeavor in Virtual box". What a joke.
This video needs to be named "how to install endeavor Linux in Virtual box".
Why? He had the VM already setup, so there was no virtualbox-specific info in this video.
it'd be nice if ubuntu made a minimal iso where if u selected full install would download the extra stuff instead of having it on the iso, maybe as an option?
Why give you Create partitions ...?? when you get the same option in the installer ....
I never liked antergos installer. Good news they use calamares!
the antergos installer was often lottery = shit.
Endeavor is more reliable to install
you should try Endeavour OS now
Thank you for the nice video, but I wonder how you got virtualbox guest editions been enabled...
I didn't do anything to get them to work. I chose the VboxVGA driver when I created the VM though, if that helps.
@@DistroTube Thank you very much, that did the trick :-)
the problem i keep having with this distro is the installer fails every other time I try to install any desktop environment that isn't xfce, which enevitably sends me back to manjaro as i'm just not feeling brave enough to try a raw arch install just yet.
today I installed, it was a long way, becouse I chosed multiple wm`s and de`s. After I get no error and the installation was completed, I noticed, that grub does`nt work any more. After searching for solutions I get my ubuntu started, which was as second system on second drive, but attempting to start endou...os ends in kernel panic be'couse of not be able to recognize the disk drive. Interesting experience...
did anyone see ublock origin sign at 18:35 ?
wtf!!!!! and so another one bites the dust. just learned that swag arch has come to an end as well. developer has moved over to solus os
Werner Claassen If Endeavor OS continues to be a decent way to do Arch, it could be a good replacement for Swag Arch and Antergos.
Solus OS works fine, but no xfce support. Budgie, Gnome are shit. Mate is no replacement
for xfce. Swag has not convinced.
@@hermifelder93 Budgie is good.
i keep having problems with my mouse freezing how do i fix this? its becoming an annoyingly big problem for me...
Hi I used this to install about a year ago. My OS has been running fine it froze today and I had to restart the pc. Now after I decrypt it goes straight to the Dell settings. I really need some advice please.
Lots of talk, but does it run vulkan dependent games straight of the bat. You should have said something about recognition of native hardware like high end graphics cards.
proprietary closed source garbage :DD made me laugh.
dt you should try mpv and rice it
Rice MPV? What does that even mean. Change the background color when no videos are playing?
When i looked at the installer it seemed you could first choose the 2nd "install endeavor to disk" without manually creating partition?
@RDE Lutherie ok thanks! Ya I thought that would be familiar to the "this will ease the entire disk" option. But does it do this before you go through the actual installer, or is this option available through the normal install process? I use Manjaro, but could never get antergos to run bc that cenchi thing would always crash. But curious to try endeavor for sure
Dunno why you hated cncchi installer so much, it was fine for me. You could easily choose what DE/WM you want and it tried to install it. It wasn't bugless but it was trying to do its job, it never failed me.
but "thanks" to antergos giving up i learned how to install arch, my next OS will be pure arch installation. RIP Antergos.
Nice wallpaper
hm , the password is dt .
What's the issue with Manjaro?
Big updates.
One minor observation for Derek. You say many distros are pointless and should go away. Then you say one of the beauties of Linux is anyone can fork a project and keep it alive.
While both statements may be true, the thought process seems oxymoronic.
IS BETTER THAN ARCO LINUX?
fails for me like every other arch installer
the true arch experience
yay arch for a noob like me :D
With arch there is no problem with installation but with stability later.
that a clean bald head 😀
I'll reconsider Firefox when they don't judge users on the plugins they install by banning plugins from their store...or firing people because they support something outside of their job capacity. Freedom is not forcing people to agree with an ideology no matter what it is. Mozilla does not support freedom...and until they I won't support them and will continue to use Brave.
Roger roll, Endeavour.
Galculatooor!
Clicked install, got lame ass error in the end. Typical arch experience.
as a windows user I just don't understand the appeal of fragmenting the linux community so much. So many distros, they all look the same to me, specially on the visual aspect. Totally incomplete and unpolished, must be because thy don't have enough people to do it.
I tried Deepin yesterday which looked really pretty from a video you made but it was really unfriendly and buggy. it had the same problems windows have with the visual consistency, the dock had effect problems and even though in pictures it looks amazing, the effects showed how poorly made these distros are. Look at apple's OS how beautiful it is and how everything is thought out and makes sense, all that because there's a bunch of people doing it. The linux community should stop making distros that basically do the same and consume the same resources and actually dedicate time to constructing a default polished visually and effect-wise distro where everything is done for the user. it's been many years since I stopped using linux after Ubuntu went with unity, lately I went back to see how things were going and everything is worse, linux distros are the paradox of choice on steroids.
Have you tried KDE Neon or Zorin OS.
I am not trying to be an advocate here, but Windows and MacOS have a lot of full-time employees trying to make their OS as perfect as they can. Linux ppl are doing it for free. And I'm amazed how close they are to said paid employees.
@@deedeemegadoodoo1506 sure I don't disagree with that but linux is a great example of the attitude of "I can do it better myself", that resulting in a load of distros that do essentially the same, look essentially the same, and worse of all, have the same problems. Too many choices, none of them polished.
@@marcelfernandezromero8905 I agree, I love distrohopping but it's mostly the same. Let's choose TOP 5 for new Linux users so it's not so confusing for them.
and let everyone to create his/her own distro, that's the spirit!
Not impressed at all.
Well Well ! Bla bla ! Listen ! i will Love Linux IF ok ? IF i can use Android Apps through Bluestacks or NOX if i am lucky !! you know what i mean ? otherwise i can let Windows or Mac Go in ease ! i mean really Linux is Big Joke "for me"
17.45 people have a problem with Thunar because it tends to crash all the time, sadly. Pretty good file manager though.
been using thunar for years, not a single crash?
@@kentcoldren1093 if you were actually *using* thunar, I'm sure you would crash all the time.
@@greob meaning?
@@beardedgeek973 he means using thunar while driving
@@greob You are making no sense whatsoever, I use thunar everyday. Your incompetence using file managers means little to me. Read a manual or something, and stop trolling me!