Dayton Audio Ultimax 18" Subwoofer Build
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- Опубликовано: 18 окт 2024
- Time for another home theater update! My JTR sub is awesome but I want more evenly distributed bass. I think I'm going to build 4 of these Dayton Audio 18" subwoofers for the room. Watch the video to see me assemble this kit from start to finish & also watch and learn from my mistakes.
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That has to be the cleanest, most organized garage I have ever seen. Nice
you prolly dont give a shit but if you are bored like me atm then you can watch pretty much all the latest movies on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf during the lockdown =)
@Wells Memphis yup, have been using InstaFlixxer for years myself :)
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@@BenTheGuitarMan doesn’t it though
@@chrisholloway12😂😂😂😂😂
So glad you left your mistakes in the video. As a DIY'er myself, I know that projects most often don't go as planned or even end up perfect. Such is life. Great Job, regardless.
oh yeah, it's literally all mistakes until we get it right! embracing the chaos in making things is brilliant; it makes for better projects with each iteration!
@@ezhik01 exactly right, but that's how we learn, and then we don't make those same mistakes the next time!
This is how most of my DIY projects go. Gotta love the process, and not lose patience. Thanks for being a humble dude too. Well done!
Me personally I'd rather not lose patience but if your patience is loose you can try tightening it?
@@vilmfilm hahaha had a good chuckle at that this morning.
You're going to run four of these?! Oh lord! I have two, with two Bridged Crown MA3600,s pushing them...my neighbors love them!
Nicely done. Those are some pretty good subs for the money, I had the 15 inch version for years. Finally upgrading this spring for a little more boom 🙂
When trying to find a the center of a box make a x from corner to corner
Labelling a person as a "BAD PERSON" is perspective. I like watching your fumbling around it's informative
For being a DIY-kit, that woofer looks really nice with that textured paint
My entire SQ setup in the car is built with Dayton copmponents.
Amazing stuff and quality !
If you're ever looking into car subwoof, I personally recommend JL-W7-V6 or JL-W6-V6.
I still await the day before I get a monster home theater with that much bass
More Obsessed Home Theater stuff, love it!
Awesome channel! Your personality and knowledge pushed me to plan and study the detailing process and business. Cheers from the Philippines! :)
Nice! Thanks for watching Ernest!
I appreciate that you just kept it real
Nicely made video and enclosure build. I’ve had my 15” Ultimax for about 5 years now, still love it. I ended up doing a dual port diy enclosure, If you do end up doing 4 of them builds that’s going to be some serious bass. 👍
I was laughing with you so much! This is how projects and fixing stuff goes for me all the time! Famous last words "this should be easy"! Every mechanic knows just when it's going well something goes wrong! Good video!
I started with a Polk PSW10 I picked up on Amazon for $65 then upgraded to an Infinity Ref 10 I got refurbed from Harman for $100. Finally the latest one I got was a Polk PSW505 about 6 yrs ago that I bought used on eBay for about $130. I still have all 3 but the Infinity is doing work with a pair of bookshelfs for my turntable. The PSW10 is collecting dust. The PSW505 is not the greatest 12" sub but it gets down for what I paid for it. I cant imagine 4-18's.
As for equalization and DSP I'd recommend a MiniDSP 2x4 HD and a UMIK, can make your response flat to around 15hz with some PEQ.
It's like baking a cake from a pre-made box mix, you can do a plain jane version or take extra steps to make it perfection, build quality is always in the hands of the builder, I usually use a small damp cloth to wipe the seams clean, then follow with a bead of silicon on all the seams.
Yeah, I'm in that middle of the pack or slightly below average when it comes to doing stuff with my hands. I err on the side of the leader rather than doer side of the equation. Luckily both are necessary for functioning organizations.
You did very well.... i think i would have panel pinned the joins, but msf on the sides can still split with tiny panel pins..... lol 🤷♂️
THAT BMW!!! BEAUTIFUL!
You need to invest in a Brad nailer. It will help during clamp ups. This way you can tac in place-panels as you due your glue up
Yep I ALWAYS brad nail wood parts I'm gluing up. Plus it's fun shooting nails into wood. 😎
The ryobi cordless nailer is excellent. Shoots 2” brads. I like it better than my Milwaukee.
I love Matt more and more and I've never even met the dude. He's the only person I follow on RUclips that would actually tell new audience members to basically leave if their bored because this is how he does shit. I love it. Thank you for being you Matt.
Those look fantastic, I just bought two of the new Klipsch 15's for my theatre room and they blur my vision, I could only imagine how awesome four of these will be.
Nice, i also like making subs 😀 and I also use Dayton audio. Cool would be to hang a sub in the air in the garage pointing downwards to the center.
Keep in mind that when you use acousta-stuff you want to glue it down and you don't want to overstuff the enclosure with it otherwise acousta-stuff will potentially get into the voice coil of the subwoofer causing the subwoofer to blow
And drill the speaker holes then clean out the bits of wood left inside, then ut stuffing in with sprey glue...... excelent job though, i probably would have done the same thing..... all hindsight
2ohm + 2ohm (+/+) (-/-) is parallel wiring. Lowers final ohm load to 1ohm.
2ohm + 2ohm (+/-) (+/-) is series wiring. Raises final ohm load to 4ohm
Nice car washing products, got to love Adams stuff.
Dream workshop 👌
Perfect Matt, the only thing I would do differently is wrap it in black acoustic felt , for that rock concert wedge monitor look.
And put on the corner caps, replaced the feet with 2 wheels and 2 lockable wheels.....
Love the green screen the background looks so realistic 😁
Nice work brother
Thank you for making this video. Much appreciated.
Might be worth putting some pillow stuffing in there in the future to simulate a larger enclosure/better low end sq
Hey Matt, a little off topic here, but have you ever thought of making a "review" section on the items on the OG store so customers can give others their opinions on items? I just know that myself personally, will always buy something with reviews compared to the same item that doesn't have any reviews.
Not sure if you’re still replying to this video, but wondering how you liked the roll on version of the Duratex. I know you used the small roller but wondering if you can see any roller marks in the finish.
It rolled out well and didn’t show lines.
Great, thanks.
Awesome video! And that texturing looks amazing for how easy the application seemed
sir. how many diameter of voice coil is your low frequency woofer?
Great Video, awesome job. Sorry If you posted this already... but I would like to know were to buy the wood box kit. Thanks
Parts Express
Not home made, assembled highly engineered kit that works as long as you followed the directions.
But it looks good and now I want two.
Tyler Harrell he assembled (made) it in house- home made
Great choice with the A7III. I’ve had mine since release, and I absolutely love the flexibility of video and still photography.
This was really great to watch. I just can't give up my PSA subs. These came out really nice. I don't know if I love cars or home theater passion more.
If you have rack space a pro amp would get you more bang for your buck. And the um18 in a sealed box will take a good 1800watts.
Do have any amp recommendations
I'm not sure it will take that for long,
You'll need a GOOD amp that can push out that power even with the impedance rise @32hz for this sealed box when wired for 4Ohms. (WinISD shows 22Ohms @32hz Correct me if I'm wrong)
@@paulsalmon4771 I use an Inuke3KDSP, It's perfect for my needs, however if you really wanted to pump in rated power, It wont at all frequency as the impedance changes depending on the frequency.
For example my box at 28hz it's about 24Ohms and this amp can't push 1K at that Ohm load, however it does get louder than I need at that frequency as I've seen it do around 200 watts at 28hz and 100w is already very very loud.
I'm wanting to get something way way overkill. FP14000 by Labgruppen. impedance rise won't be an issue with that amp. (even though my Inuke is more than enough for my needs lol)
I was actually thinking bout the berhinger EP4000 or qsc rmx 2450 what are your views on either??
Paul Salmon I can't check them out fully right now, but they seem good on paper. Check out the Crown xls series, they are pretty popular for subwoofer duty or main duty and have a input voltage toggle that lets you use consumer inputs like RCA without needing something like a art cleanbox.
I personally want the xls 2502 to test before I get that FP14000 in the future.
Awesome video. This is my first time watching. I like your style. I have 2 of those so far but I’m designing a ported enclosure. I will surely have sawdustageddon. I’m dedicating a Crown XLS amp to each one. 1502 minimum bridged to 4ohm. I ordered my Duratex in base color. My local Sherwin Williams dyed it the color I wanted no charge (purple) justcin case anyone wants to custom color their Duratex. As thanks I purchased another roller and el cheapo brushes from them. It’s the same as any water base interior paint.
Just ordered the 18 Ultimax with sealed cabinet from Parts Express. Is it worth the cost and what is your opinion on the overall performance with both music and movies? BTW, great video.
Very good job, beautiful finish. please what brand is the paint
Get a volt meter n put it on ohm keep sub up right n connect it will tell u what ohm u got wired up.
I just got the A7iii as well check out the Tamron E mount lens. Your going to love the auto focus for videos.
nice work for your first time......looks great
Nice, planning on building one myself. Oh and BTW, beautiful BMW 1M(?) in the background.
This is an awesome video to watch.
Thanks man!
Nice DIY subwoofer cabinet :) i like the color texture it's original.
I'd countersink and drill pilot holes and add wood screws to the joints and braces.
Parts express for the WIN!!! used them for years when it comes to building custom or unique speaker/audio setups/builds.
I thought I was the only one who had matty math haha. Got some crooked shelves in my house thanks to it! Great job -- may look into one of these precut kits in the future.
Love the video brother. Awesome how you show the issues that come up with the build. You always keep it real. Keep up the good work.
Sealed Box Master Race. Nice job.
Great work man....
I like it! Some are scared to build even such a simple kit.
I never fill in the grooves. It is just very unnecessary.
Because this amp has a closed enclosure for itself it is ok to put the stuff infront of it.
Did you think about doing a Double Bass Array?
Mistakes happen. It's part of learning :)
I also like sealed a LOT more!
I bought the same amplifier about 2 months ago still in the box I hope I don't have any of the same problems
It was a pretty easy fix. I would definitely open it us just to make sure it is all connected.
Ahh man! I wanted to hear it play. I have all Vandersteen speakers in my set up but I’m looking to swap out the subs. They are great for music but I mostly watch movies and I think I can do better. The price of these sounds really reasonable.
I might actually try to build one this looks easy and straight forward. Did you put the strip material where the amp sits before you screwed it in place?
No.... lol.... but hey ho, its still a go 🙂
Hello with a quart did you have to paint the drawer for the dayton? In Spain, Amazon only sells half a quart of a gallon, do you think I would have for a 35x35x35 cm box? Greetings
Sounds like your drill is on hammer action! Nice sub tho
Ha, ha... Yeah it was.
That came out really well!
Looking forward to the sub series. I’m currently running two Polk 12”s in my theater and curious on your thoughts of the 18”s.
Really nice build. FYI: You can get public domain music pretty easily.
I personally loved the video! You do you 👊🏼👏🏼 Chaos
Can you let us know how it sounds as a single sub in your theater? Interested in what the other prebuilt options you were looking at and how you decided on the diy route too? For me I’d be all for diy to save money for better performance but surprised to see a guy with a gt3rs go that route. Must be pretty good! Love the video!
The Ultimax is pretty much the standard DIY option now. I wanted a smaller sealed enclosure, so that's why I opted to do Parts Express stuff.
Obsessed Garage cool, thanks Matt. Assuming the options from SVS or Rythmik or others were significantly more money for similar or less performance? I know most of the big dogs from the internet direct brands are massive.
I dont think svs do an 18 inch, but who cares, the fun is in building it yourself, and the money you save..... the amps wont be like svs, neither the finish, or the speakers themselves, but the sence of pride and saving more than 3.5k is well worth it each, so over 4 thats 14k........ lolz for 75% of the capability....
Did you put a gasket between the amp and enclosure? It looks like you just plopped it in there without sealing it.
Yes
Lost it at "Man...been a long time since my electrical engineering days"
I see matt has evolved into cool dad with his backwards hat
Boom!
Nah,he just got out of softball practice. He plays catcher.
Apply the weatherstrip to the speaker so you know its in the correct spot?
Good video man, I appreciate you sharing mistakes as I’m sure I’ll make my own during the build. Looks great too. If you were to benchmark the Ultimax 18” to a commercial/internet-direct brand? Where would you rank it, both sealed and ported subs in mixed use?
I'm not quite sure yet. I'll be tuning them this weekend and putting them through their paces over the coming months to see if they are acceptable to me.
How are these working out for you? Do they hit has hard has the jtr?
Thanks for the video, I want one of these kits. Question, why didn't you cutout the amp hole while the board was not mounted?
Because you need to cut the braces as well.
@@ObsessedGarage maked sense, thank you
i just sold all three of my rythmik fv25's (they are like mini jtr 4000's) and am about to order multiple jtr cap 4000's. really confused why you chose to go with parts-express dayton sealed subs. there's nothing wrong with them but they're just not even in the same league as the jtr sub you have. also mixing sealed & ported, not sure that's the best approach.
Simply due to cost. Spending $10K on subs wasn't something I was prepared to do. The more I listen to this home made sub versus my 4000ULF, the more I think I'll stick with JTR.
I thought on a different video you commented about not finishing your degree in EE but in this video you talk about having an EE degree?
I finished on time in 4 years. BSEE ‘02 Villanova
Damn you have a 1M 👍🤩
Weather stripping around the amp would be beneficial.
It has a pretty stout layer of it pre-installed.
Awesome video Matt. Got the hat placement dialed in as well 🤙
Swear he was using his drill driver on the hammer drill setting hahaha
Yes, has probably been on that setting since he did the lift install.
Zed its not a drill, it’s an impact driver. It’s not a setting, it’s just the way it works.
Matt,
Are you going to go back to 4K video? It looked so crispy on my LG C7.
Yes, I'll be doing 4K 30FPS on the Sony A7III that I just got.
Great video! I've been looking hard at DYI lately. How do you think these will stack up to say Klipsh or SVS? You can't be the price of these for sure!
I think the SVS SB-16 is a little better, but I would think these outperform a Klipsch. Check out JTR Subs.
@@ObsessedGarage thanks
LOL all I'm looking at is the BMW. My fav color of all time . Is that the M2 or 1M ?
1M
@@ObsessedGarage Damn, you gotta love that thing. I had the 135 tuned with E30 and an exhaust delete. I can't imagine the 1M. I'm sure you never want to sell it It's beautiful.
This video was great. It looks like the box turned out great as well. It looks really stout, but I've always glued and screwed my sub boxes together. I worry that the glue will fail over time with all the vibration.
Four eighteens didn't see no wires...And then I heard BOOOOOOOM from the amplifiers. (Can anyone in the comments name that song?)
Titebond 3 is so good that the wood wood itself would fail before the glued joint.
That's what I've always understood.
Still Fly, by Big Tymers??
@@craigandresen2456 You got it!
Love that song!
All else being equal, which would make a better subwoofer, a 150 Watt RMS / 8 inch woofer OR a 100 Watt RMS / 10 inch woofer?
No replacement for displacement. Go with the 10" it will push more air with less effort.
Hi, what minimum length of box clamps could I get away with. I note you have 36 inch length ones. Would 24” be long enough to get the job done? Thanks
Matt the Builder.
How does the ultimax compare to the jtr sound quality wise if both set at same spl level? I cant decide if I want to build 8 of these or just buy some jtr s2
The JTR would destroy these in SQ. But $10K vs. $4K for four of them wasn't worth the extra performance in this case.
Loved the video Matt.
Still was a great video.
Your bank account must be like trying to fill up a sieve with water Matt! haha
I'm all for the obsessed audio vids!
Just for future use. There is quite a bit of bass heavy copyright free music available on spotify. Neffex and Seige are a couple examples
Nice job 👍🏻
are you goign to upload somewhere audio sample of this sub playing - i want to see the excursion too
How do you like the subwoofer so far? Is it able to reach lows in that enclosure for movies?
I'm not quite sure yet. It sounds good in my garage. I'm going to build another one and then take them home to test.
@@ObsessedGarage Cool let me know. I'm thinking of either building two of these or buying two Svs pb-2000 or similar.
I'm going to make another one soon. Then I'll take them to test in the theater. It sounds good in the garage.
Can i please have the exact sizes of the wood that is used to make woofer box ?
This is a kit that I purchased.
I am surprised an 18' sub is in such a small enclosure, none the less, nice job, how much was the kit?
It's about $850. 4 cu. ft. sealed is pretty stout.
I was gutted not to see a tidy sound test
Well done! First time checking this out, you did an amazing job! That has got to be the cleanest build (and garage) I've seen! Well done, I may follow this path myself.
Mixing sealed and ported in the same room? Sell the 4000ULF and get an S2