Fatalis Easiest 100% Evil Eye Farm - 10 Minutes per run, Guaranteed Eye EVERY Time | MHW Iceborne
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- (use whatever weapon you like, so long as it can do decent DPS during each cone) Alot of people found the plunderblade farm really handy, but I know some people were having really bad RNG with Evil Eyes, so I worked hard to come up with and test a consistent way to farm them with 100% drop rates. This meant trying to find a way to consistently get two horn breaks, that even struggling players could use.
Obviously this was quite a difficult task, but we eventually figured out a trick to get fatalis to use the cone move with relative frequency, which eventually lead to this video. You don't need to be good at the fight - staying at mid range puts you out of range for alot of the hard to dodge moves, and the rest you can just run away from
I showed off a run with really bad cone RNG here, as it helps you understand 1) how to dodge and play this run and 2) that it works even if you don't get lucky. Despite the awful RNG, we finished the run in around 11 minutes. Part of that was from good roaming ballista usage, but a binder and not carting would make up for that anyway, and obviously better cone RNG makes it a shoe in
So here you go. My 100% guaranteed and easy method to farm evil eyes. Between this and the plunderblade video, you should be able to farm all the parts you need. Make the fatalis set before even beating the special assignment, then take it out and best the event quest with ease. Let me know if you have any questions!
(also ZSD spam is probably just as easy as this, but idk anything about saxe so this is good for those players like me. plus i heard zsd takes more like 15 mins for the second horn break, but idk how true that is)
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Alot of people were struggling to get cones, so here's a much more detailed video specifically on baiting the cone attack: ruclips.net/video/IZFvdHhmpys/видео.html
and also there are some advanced tips below, PLEASE read them if you're struggling with this (but first a cheeky shill):
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Thx Cons this strategy gave me demon eyes on the second attempt 😊😊👍👍
Facts
You can use Temporal and Wallbangs as well as Rocksteady whit Heavy Artillery for the Roaming Ballista.
Could be usefull and doesnt change your gameplan to much.
Cons hit em with the diss at the end hahah getting ruthless out here
Just realized my comment contradicts your tips lol, well I mean I guess it’s all up to AI at the end of the day
"All you have to know is hold triangle out of sheathe"-Best Great Sword guide ever.
*mash* holding triangle would do a single hit and nothing else
wr baby
Crit draw baby
That is what it is
This incorrectly implies GS has other moves.
Honestly the fact that you showed this run in a worst-case, mistake-filled scenario makes me all the more motivated to try it out. I see so many guides using optimal builds in near-speedrun scenarios, talking about how "easy" strats are, so when I try to pull it off I just feel like I'm constantly messing up due to uncooperative AI or my lacking understanding of the strat. The fact that you included both uncooperative AI and risky, sub-optimal punishes is extremely encouraging.
This is an absolute top-tier guide. Thank you so much for making it.
thank you! some people here seem to be struggling a bit, so maybe i still messed up on that front, but i really hope it works well for you. best of luck!
a trick to get 80% of the roaming ballistas ammo to hit the head.
When the first fire nova ends grab the ballista binder and hop on the roaming ballista, don't fire any shots just ride it all the way to the left, get on the regular ballista and fire the binder and shoot Fatalis down when he looks at you, hop on the roaming ballista and fire right into its face, i usually get 80 shots in before Fatalis breaks free and i just wing it on trying to snipe his face with the rest.
That’s a really useful tip ^^ cuz I can’t get the smoke bomb trick to work consistently
Yup im currently working on more consistent strats for people struggling, and this is what i ended up doing too
@@SleepyPitou if you have a friend, let him do the smoke bomb.
Just slayed fatalis earlier. And we needed all the binders for the last phase.
@@troua2001 to be fair me and my friend just ZSD spam the hell out of fatalis ^^ new best time is 15:37
@@SleepyPitou nice. Dont know how to use that. Maybe its time to learn
"As you once did for the vacuous Rom, grant us eyes, grant us eyes. Plant eyes on our brains, to cleanse our beastly idiocy."
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ahh kos,or some say kosm
A hunter is a hunter even a dream...
Those are good quotes but I will never forget.
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Thank you so much Cons for helping us defeat Fatalis. So the story goes like this: My wife and I refused to watch guides beforehand and wanted to fight the black dragon by, as it were, just hitting it until it falls. Our attempts on the first three days failed miserably. Compared to every monster all the way up to Alatreon that we learned to fight pretty quickly, Fatalis felt like an impossible fight. We did notice, though, that we’re getting some mats even as we fail, so I thought maybe we should somehow make his armors first. To that end I watched your guides, and the funny thing is, although they were intended to teach us how to farm for his mats without clearing the quest, they made us realize one crucial fact about the Fatalis fight in general-that there’s no future without breaking his head and reducing his health without breaking the head simply accelerates our eventual demise in the final phase. Funny thing is, although we changed our tactics to hitting only his head until we broke his head twice without even caring about clearing the quest within the time limit, it was through the more careful engagement where we in fact tried to hit him waaay less frequently that we managed to kill him. Trying to break his head, it turned out, was literally the way to kill him, not to mention that after making the full armor set there’s literally no reason to kill him without getting the eye. So, thank you again 🥰
you're more than welcome, and thanks for sharing your experience! Yeah you're 100% right, that horn break is so handy. And clever positioning/baiting of good hitzones might feel slower than just throwing out whatever attacks will land on whatever parts you can, in the long run the former will (usuall >.
Pro tip. Don't click abandoned quests.
Got my brakes but no reward. Had a curl in the ball and cry for awhile.
Some people don’t know the difference
That hurts to read. 😅😂
@@Isimplydoes A learning experience. In how to waste time painfully. I'm not as fast as popping it in 10 minutes I think i'm averaging around 16ish.
ive done this before, and i feel your pain >.
F to our confused hunter! Y.Y
Perfect. I got all the evil eyes I needed today doing this. However all my runs was like 25 minutes+ xD, but better than 4 hours for 1 eye with the plunderblade.
I noticed something that might help get consecutive cones. After smacking his head during the cone, roll directly backwards from his head (assuming you are perpendicular to it) and just stand there. Fatalis will move himself to just the right position after the cone. I managed to get like 4 cones in a row doing this.
Ill be sure to try this during future runs, thanks!
@@ConsOA It doesn't work 100% of the time but I can get a good chain going instead of running around like a headless chicken.
@@Cadam_ yeah ai like this is never 100%, but im willing to try anything at this point to tip the odds in my favour haha
Educate me as I am a dummy BUT...I see you're using Alatreon GS. I'm not a GS player but I have crafted a few just because I had so many mats. I have the Alatreon and Raging Brachydios. Which would be better? I also have Fatalis Hammer which hits very hard but I'm not a hammer player either lol. You mentioned "Frostcraft". What exactly is that? And what about using Fatalis armor. You would be able to slot the skills you have listed plus maybe more attack, agitator, blast or dragon damage, depending on your weapon of choice. I don't have the Velkhana armor but can craft if needed. What is your advice? As a disclaimer I have killed him once in a duo (we had 13 seconds left lol) but I want to solo him and as an LBG main, horn breaks are damn near impossible, even with Sticky, his head is too hard to hit unless he's doing the cone. I have his LBG (it's better than Aquashot) because of the sleep AND para. And poison just for extra damage. What about using Sticky instead of the GS when he goes in cone mode. Would that be viable? Sorry for long post lol
@@mygirlsdaddy66 frostcraft makes your first few attacks after a sheath much stronger, it's the 4 piece set bonus on Velkhana armor. It's perfect for greatsword since it makes your draw attack super strong and you can't get multiple hits in a row on Fatalis's head here.
*After 15 hours unsuccessful Plunderblade*
"Hmm yes, this seems like a reliable way".
*Fatalis does the cone once in the entire fight. Does the wide sweep beam 15 times in a row.*
Use your clutch claw, free 500+ dmg
@@gawanoh3799 if your hunter doesn't decide to fly straight into it's flames.
You can reliably punish this move with a 2 charged slash(even with a 3rd charge once you get better with judging where his head will be), especially if he's doing the one where he's slowly walking backwards, he always pauses for a sec after moving his head back in front of him.
@@WhiskeyTango76s The thing is I can't through it for the life of me.
Might wait for AT Velkhana, and see if I can fit some evade window into the build.
Anndgrim I feel ya, there's just some attacks that get people more than others. With me it's the flame wave he does while standing, I literally walk between his attacks without getting hit but once he does the standing flame wave that starts right underneath him I will almost always quickly dash right into it the moment I see it. Seriously, I rush right into it when it happens, literally like a moth to a flame lol.
There's a sweet spot you can stay in most of the time, it's good enough to where you can walk(and jog) skirt around the edges to avoid them and the flame wave I think you're talking about it one of the easier ones to avoid if you're in or near that position(basically where you see Cons standing) so you won't have to worry about i-frames when you pull it off. Once you you learn his tell for that attack it'll turn into a guaranteed hit or clutch attack. Trust me, it won't take you long at all if you devote just one hunt to simply avoiding him/trial and error, wearing the Temporal Mantle while doing this also helps a ton with this as well.
Commander: "It's still a monster so its head must be a weak point!"
Cons: "So hit nothing but the head?"
Commander: "Ye-- wait."
Cons: "Very well"
cries in shotzones ;-;
But Commander, what about Furious Rajang?
I'm not gonna lie.... I tried to do this yesterday for 2 hours before I realized my runs weren't looking your runs because you left the palico at home. I forgot you could do that. SMH
Omg I was wondering the same, thanks for the heads up
Think I just had the same problem. Got totally murdered.
YUP, this comment saved me. Couldn't get the second horn break with the cat, saw this comment, first hunt without the cat and I got my evil eye. Not gonna go for morr evil eyes til I craft gamma velk gear
shit i really should have mentioned this, thanks for pointing it out! ill add it to pineed
@@ConsOA I tried to use that new jewel they added that makes the monster focus on you but sadly it doesn't work with your paloco it would have been great to have your cat getting extra parts and maybe an extra eye while you break the head.
Hey! I just want to say, i was super discouraged and about to give up on farming kills for the eyes. But then I chanced upon this guide and got myself full armour + my main weapons from just head breaking. Wasn’t too used to GS, so I used Alatreon DBs but damn I just wanna say you’re a hero for creating this video and putting it out there. For what it’s worth, here’s a heartfelt thanks from a fledgling hunter still trying to “git gud”. Cheers and happy hunting!
youre more than welcome, im really glad i could help ^_^
good luck with the fatalis fight if you go back and retry it !
This is to try and help folks out with baiting cones, I'm not yet convinced this isn't pure RNG but once I've started doing this tactic it has helped me reliably get that 2nd break which I needed because I don't have the best decos for a GS Draw build(even with the fully upgraded Fatalis GS I'm still just getting maybe 600 for the first charged Slash). So, what I've been doing, which seems to help with baiting cones, is to learn his attacks(which I promise you is easy once you concentrate on learning them) enough to where you don't have to sprint away from his attacks - like you see Cons doing here, his positioning, try to stand still at that position AFTER his attacks(and before his attack ends which is comfortably possible). For me he seems to favor using that cone attack as a reaction(such as being a certain distance away and not moving which to 95% of players that are fighting him to beat him and not farm him, is usually when players are either stunned or have been hit by his last fireball attack(when he chains it, the "SUPRISE DIPSHIT" ones he shoots out hasn't ended with a cone too often for me, thankfully because they still surprise me). Standing still before he begins his new attack seems to replicate this condition(if it is a condition he favors).
Also for those who are like me and don't have decent GS skills to equip, it's possible to hit him with a level 2 charge(with a 2 charge, 3 charges only if you are able to get in position early, like before he starts to spew out fire) during his cones do a tackle after the very first charge of your level 1, once you start your level 2 unleash it once it hits it's 2nd charge, with this I was able to raise my damage by 100-200 more including the +100 my tackle does.
Another one you can punish(which, imo, allows you to also bring your Palico+Plunderblade to very slightly raise your chances of an Evil Eye because he does this ALOT when your Palico is with you) after getting familiar with his attacks is when he does his backwards flamewave, you just stand in from of his torso, slightly, imagine where his head is going to be(which can be tough at first because he's so damn wiggly) and pull a charged slash. This is almost a guaranteed hit when you do a 1-2 charged hit but with practice it can be a reliable 3 charged hit.
There's a couple others but the ones I listed have been what helped me the most after adopting Cons strategy which, to anyone who hasn't tried it yet, works really damn well. I hadn't gotten a single head break after like 40 damn tries, now I've got his full Beta Gear(also an Alpha Waist because that damn Beta tail doesn't compliment the armor one bit, especially when you're running with a Mantle on), a fully upgraded GS, IG, the base SA, CB, and my Palico is now a baby Fatalis(though I'm missing the weapon, Evil Eyes are still too valuable for me to spend on it yet). I think I could comfortably beat him now but I'm still farming him, he's still not a fight that I want to become a limited event like Shara or Xeno.
Edit: Sorry for the less descriptive charge names, the one I know is the true charged slash, that 2nd strategy I call a "Level 2 Charge" is the one before the true charged slash.
Edit 2#: Where do people get all these damn decos? The Melder?
If anyone is interested in using this build with the Fatalis GS then swap the waist for the Fatalis A+ and the arms with Velkhana B+ augment the GS for 2 Affinity then add decos to get
Health Boost 3
Crit Boost 3
Focus 3
Partbreaker 3
Crit Draw 3
Quick Sheath 3
Divine Blessing 3
Tool Specialist 3
Crit Eye 3
Coalecence 1
Mantels for me are
Rocksteady with 2 Heavy Artillery
Glider with Hard Fire Res and Heavy Artillery + (Glider is very good cause when you clutch claw and spin him 3 times then drop down you can give him a extra hit to his head that does over 500 damage)
Charm
Use what ever you want I personally like the Mud Puppy one cause it makes it easier to superman dive (it would be so nice if the leap of faith skill had a jewel)
This build is comfy and works for me but you may want to add more attack
Just yesterday, I was thinking, "I wonder why Cons hasn't put out a video on farming Evil Eyes..." then BOOM - this comes out. He knows how to read minds!!!
ayy glad i could help!
“1018 Fatalis Evil Eyes...”
Since this is PC, I'm just going to assume he spawned them with console commands.
Pc trash
@@bakairy you can do this on console too lul
@@khaloud9386 HOW? TELL ME PLEASE DADDY
@@HoodGigglyGoodness look up savewizard ;)
This guy's legit. However, I cannot stress enough that you should leave your palico behind and have frostcraft, crit draw, crit boost, focus 2/3, partbreaker, and heavy artillery, as he shows in this guide. Even with very few cone attacks, I can get the head break and evil eye around 10-15 minutes per hunt. And thanks for the guide, it really helped.
Is it fine if I use the fatty set? I need the extra stamina for dodging
@@str8inst1nct33 Any set could work as long as you do enough damage. I'd still recommend partbreaker 3 and heavy artillery.
Thanks for this, I haven’t being able to defeat him yet so I really appreciate this strat 🥺, once I finally get him I’m hoping to be able to craft the stuff I need
It seems like it might also work as a strat to also beat the fight altogether, no?
@@alexgalays910 Yeah pretty much. 3 years later I have a 100+ Fatalis kills, but this guide is good for people who can't consistently farm him
This is probably the best method we've got but it's still a little rough. This build leaves you with -15 fire def, no evade window and no evade extender so if you're even a little mispositioned you can die so easily. I got one on my first run but it took a bit over 20 minutes, hopefully I can trim it down to 15 or 10.
I’ve nvr clicked so fast in my life
haha hope it helps!
I no u say it can be done with any weapon, but i use ls ...is this method still possible?
Ikr same
Right there with you buddy
Seriously!
Tip for Gunlancers, try to use Wyrmstake Cannon to punish the Cone. You have to make sure your Gunlance is reloaded before he even begins the Cone, before you even try to bait the Cone give yourself a Reload if you need it, and then when he cones, Shell Shell Wyrmstake Cannon.
This is the best damaging punisher for Gunlance against Fatalis's Cone. The Slam Sweep combo is less damage than Wyrmstake, and you do NOT have enough time to Wyrmstake before he pulls back. However, if you arrive at the cone late for some reason, then DON'T try to Wyrmstake if you don't have enough time. *Then* you would want to use Rising > Slam > Sweep since it comes out a bit faster and you can jump out sooner
“Risk free method”
“Just dodge all of his attacks”
Bro if I could consistently dodge all of his attacks I would just farm him like a normal monster...
Yeah but in this case you don't want to concentrate on dps. You just want to run until he cones and you can smash his head like a peanut, this method really is less risky than fighting him.
It is easyer too dodge if all you do is dodging cuz you keep safe distance
good point dude
there's a big difference between dodging during regular gameplay vs dodging during this method with your weapon sheathed and only punishing it's longest move
so yes. In this game about hunting monsters, my method for easily farming the rarest drop of the hardest, final fight, does take a tiny bit of effort. boo hoo
@@ConsOA Just making a joke about the funny contradiction in the way you phrased it. I don’t actually have a problem with the method or video. Didn’t mean to come off whiny :(
Commenting again cos I spent all evening running this, lots of fun getting to learn Fatalis better and having guaranteed eyes! Thanks Cons!
Also witnessed some absolute crappy RNG; my yelling "give me your cones!" probably confused the neighbours a whole lot too.
no problem, glad i could help! and yeah lmaoo, im the same during my streams, just lots of cursing and "please cone" shouting
Another good way to get cones is if you bring your Palico, half the time it gets yeeted across the map and than he’ll try to cone it
I just wanted to give you my most sincerest thanks, because of all of your fatalis guides I’ve got every material i need for all the armour and weapons.
Youre very welcome ^_^
At this point, I feel like it is less about "Killing Fatalis" and more just breaking the head twice. Not sure if my luck will be as smooth as this, but still, I'm willing to give it a shot since I got little other options other than just killing the thing (something to which I've only done twice. Once by using Zero Sum Discharge cheese and the other with a group that somehow didn't manage to fallover dead).
Thanks for the build Cons.
EDIT: The key to baiting cones is that Fatalis only does them when he's standing/not on all fours. Recommend NOT enraging him to keep him standing a lot. Con's updated video made things much clearer. Now I'm baiting cones left and right. Thanks a bunch man.
Fair warning: this method is still highly RNG dependent. The cone attacks are just too inconsistent, regardless of how I position myself as close as instructed. Out of eight runs, only one had Fatty doing more than 5 cone attacks. One run had me trying to bait a cone attack for *ten* minutes.
Props to the video nontheless; it's an efficient method for those who can find the rhythym.
Similar experience to me, nice damage when it worked though
1st run this strat, brought my palico, Fatti was too interested in him to cone me, so I only received 1 break in the 30 min run.
Damn cat got me an eye anyway.
For GS users, you can also use a mount strategy (1 mount per run) using the charm which allows you to mount easier and down mounted monsters. Once Fatalis goes down from the mount, you will have enough time to go for level 3 charged attacks on the head up to TCS if you have Focus 3 on the build. After Fatalis gets up, farcaster to camp and change back to the set that you typically use for the hunt. I find that mounting him without that charm is harder and I sometimes run out of stamina because he keeps moving around when you mount him which forces you to brace a lot. With the charm, it only takes a few attacks and then he'll go down.
Coming from someone who hasn’t beaten him and sucks at this game, I appreciate this 😭🥺
The only way it can truly be "worst case scenario" is if I'm the one playing the game. Even with this easy ass strat, I can't seem to break even one before time runs out or I quintuple cart.
What weapon are you using?
Also are you using max lvl divine protection? IMO an absolute must for fatalis. I've farmed him 6 times now and that's saved my butt more than anything
@@panakinskywalker9075 I'm in the process of upgrading my Alatreon Switch axe and going to target the head. Just need to get direwings from him but haven't had much luck getting any for a while.
@@samstocker6450 you might want to switch to greatsword. That's what I've had the most luck with. What's getting you killed the most?
@@panakinskywalker9075 nah. Switch axe is most reliable so far. Without an optimised build the greatsword technique in this video just doesn't work. Not enough damage to the head and not enough opportunities to hit it. Better off just blasting his head open with the switch axe. Only get one horn break after 20 mins but oh well. The problem is that I don't have the jewels that pretty much every youtuber has. So despite having good gear and fatalis armour the lack of decorations make it all useless.
How do you deal so much dmg? Like almost 1k with one lvl3 charged hit, I use the fatalis gs and I get like 6-700 at best
Frostcraft
Thank you man. I followed this (alongside your other video explaining how to bait the cone fire breath attacks) and worked like charm. Used the raging brachy GS, so my damage was a bit lower than yours, but was able to get the Evil Eye in like 23 mins per run.
Right as i start getting consistent eye breaks, i got this recommended.
Love it
haha sounds like you dont need it, but grats on getting consistent with the breaks!
@@ConsOA faster is always better.
Keep up the good work.
Hi Cons, finally got my first head break thanks to this method. Thank you wherever you are sir
you're more than welcome friend!
this is a god send! thank you! I wish my average evil eye loot rate was 1hr haha xD
no problem! yeah rng can be fickle, hopefully this more consistent method proves useful!
@@ConsOA did you test if it gets faster if you do the fellwing cheese on the head at the start ?
I feel ya. Hunter's log: Day 3 of coming home from work and grinding for eyes. I'm not sure they exist (lol got one just today, thank God). Definitely will try this, though. Been practicing GS anyways to break Alatreon's parts (just as much for spite as for gear at this point). Anyways, good hunting!
I don’t know if this has been mentioned, but I found something interesting with the AI. When you climb the rope up to the cannons in the stage, it forces fatalis to become in an upright hind legs position. I found that when he’s in that position, he cones a lot more frequently along with him being enraged. Another thing you can do is after doing the three charge slash you can dodge backwards and stand still, and fatalis will be in the perfect position for more frequent cones (just be careful of any other moves he might do instead).
goat
I'm definitely going to have to try this out. I love using GS for this fight and with my current build, I get the second head break in about 15 minutes but I also hit the chest and stuff so it could be better. I play every weapon in the game, mostly GS tho, but that means I have get so many eyes, I'm only missing the alpha chestpiece and 10 more weapons so I think 22 in total?
One quick thing and I have no clue if farcasting would make the run better, but apparently Partbreaker doesn't contribute towards the second head break threshold for whatever reason. This isn't confirmed but based on the testing that the Monsterhuntermeta and Monsterhunterworld subreddits did, it seems to be the case. And for anyone who doesn't like this strategy, you can wait a week and see if AT Velkhana armor makes it any better for you. She comes out on the 16th, which usually means the 15th for us.
farcastering into a better set probably wouldnt be worth the time, but i could imagine it's helpful if you wanna min max
@@ConsOA Yea, after doing this all day, I don't see a point in farcastering now. Consistent 9-12 minute clears for me. But anyway, thanks for the video, I went from needing 22 eyes when I started playing today to only needing 10 more. Strategy works amazingly well.
hey bro if you see this i just wanna say thank you so much for making this vid. it helped me get 2 evil eyes in like 40 minutes. ez sub earned
After 4 days trying to kill fatalis I finally got him 2 days ago and i carved a lucky evil eye. I've been since wasting hours trying to farm him in multiplayer with people dying / leaving 24/7. Just found this video, tried myself with a slightly different build (raging brachy gs) and boy do i regret not finding this vid until now. Took me like 15 mins but man, really easy strat and with fortify and coral horn I ended up with 2300+ attack and dealing +1100 for charge hit. God bless you, gonna farm this to death.
haha good luck! glad i could help you out ^_^
ooo, hadn't considered using fortify for this farm. Ill do that too, ty
2 attempts, 2 evil eyes. Nice vid, works a treat. Was dreading the hours of plunderblading or waiting for the melder to update.
haha fantastic, glad i could help!
aw yeah this looks super easy!
*one hour later*
Nevermind....
3 hours later in my case :(
Way late to the expansion, finally picked up iceborne on sale. Feels weird with a HR over 140 and MR at barely 50. Your content was invaluable for getting past the BS roadblocks they put in just cuz. I still have a bunch of farming to do but your vids helped a ton!
An hour for plunderblade...pretty sure I've spent about 4 hours trying so far 😭
At this rate I'll be able to kill it before plunderblade works, definitely gonna try this
I literally broke his eye and killed it before plunderblade gave me an eye. I don't have any idea how many failed runs this took.
Makes me feel really lucky, only took me 20 minutes to get an eye from pb
It's a 1% chance to get an eye from plunderblade
1% per drop, just doing the palico gadget reset trick gets you 4 drops in about 3 and a bit minutes normally, so 4% per run. averages at like 1:15 ish but loading times can make it worse, but of course thats just an average, and yeah some people just get awful rng >.<
hope this method helps!
@@ConsOA it did, finally got an evil eye 😁, thanks for the awesome guide!
I dont get it. Im using the same set, just a savi weapon with 1541 attack and my normal attacks when I draw my weapon do like ~250 dmg while you do over 500.
Don't forget the alatreon greatsword has a big chunk of dragon element (which the head is super weak to), plus things like eating for AuL, might seeds, demon drugs, etc.
This works, but man doing this is really boring.
This is still relevant today with people returning to MHW, thanks for the guide. I wanted faster way to get evil eyes. I've done Fatalis solo a few times but it takes 20+ mins each time (skill issue I'm sure) and I need lots of them so that would take a while. Online coop is a disaster people die constantly and join with the worst gear imaginable, so this seems like the best option!
how does this work though? i've killed him 3 times solo now. all 3 times I broke his head 3 times (so his flames wont do allot of damage in phase 3) but i never had the eye as bonus reward after killing him
We all desperate for those eyes
for reals
I can get lost in those eyes. Trying to obtain them I mean
Watched so many different guides, this is the video that did it for me, thank you so much for the help, I almost quit.
hi dad, when are you coming home? It's been 12 years, Gogmazios misses you
Yes!!! After 2 days, I finally broke both of his horns and went to phase 3. Thank you very much, Cons! However, I must say, you always make things look so easy but in fact they are extremely difficult, lol! You’re just good man.
congrats! and thanks >.<
definitely a part of it is my own experience, while i try to make the strats approachable it can be difficult for such an endgame monster
Same I was hitting every opening and my numbers weren't far from this and still could not get the second Horn break before timer end... Guess back to palico farm
Or just wait a couple of months for them to be added to the Elder Melder Alatreon came out two months ago and you can already meld his gems so I say by January they will be added. Good thing I have 43 Celestial Prints cause I play every weapon and that's way to many eyes to farm.
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran Yes but if they wanted us to work for it they would of made the plunderblade have no effect on him. You can use the plunder blade farcast, change the paloco gadget to something else then swap back to plunder, garb another farcaster then go back down and rinse and repeat 4 times then return from quest should take about 4min I got 3 eyes doing that for 2hrs. So considering how easy that is to make full armor and weapons I will be extremely surprised if the eyes don't get added at some point.
ive added some tips to the pinned comment, have a look and see if they help maybe
@Shasvin Puvanesvaran I guss my comment made it seam like you can get all the materials needed to craft the armor and weapon with the palaco but I was specifically talking about farming Eyes and that you can get them without ever attacking Fatalis yes they are rare but you will get them eventually with just using the Plunderblade. He put up a video showing this
ruclips.net/video/mMHCBGVJL5w/видео.html
@@bringerchaos4142 yes but some people has such bad rng they may never get an eye...y runs take 4-5 mins and I've been doing it for hours the first day I got 1 I haven't gotten one since
How would you improve on this build with fatalis pieces? You said it'd be possible, I tried but couldn't. Good vid, ty.
could probably run a safi weapon with velk awoken on it, and two pieces of fatalis for the set bonus
but i think i meant that using the black fatalis GS with the alpha waist and 4 pieces of velk would improve it
@@ConsOA Thanks!
Wont wallbangin him cause more damage? I thought that helps breakin the horn
yeah i fine it a bit of a pain, but it definitely helps
I was lucky to get one thanks to plunderblade at maybe 8th try but of course I still need more... does this work if run our of time too (with 2 horns break) or only if you return from quest? thanks!
I can’t even fight him without dying
Another excellent video. You’re easily the best MHW content provider for one simple reason; your content is applicable and specific. Honestly, I rank your stuff side by side with Rurikan.
thank you ^_^
glad you found it helpful and concise :D
After many many practice runs I’ve finally gotten to the point where I can get the 2 breaks every time. But even exploiting every single cone and even mount tenderizing 5-10 times per run I’m still at 20 minutes. My cone strikes are dealing 925 ish every time. Not sure how you got it to 10 mins.
I wonder if the will be easy for the swax zsd spam to even though i always break the horn twice lol.
Swax ZSD has very low partbreak potential, afaik it has 0.10x multiplier on partbreak so this method is just more efficient, FYI i tried it a lot its definitely harder
Also, with Swaxe you have to rely on mantles (cooldown and stuff) and it's far less safe/fast with fireballs and, mainly, that stomp-pinning bs.
I think a mix of both could work, this strategy but using switch axe in amped axe mode. If I remember correctly an amped axe does even more part damage than a greatsword
zsd spam seems fairly easy but quite long, tho i dont play saxe so cant confirm
@@ConsOA I did some runs, ZSD kills him fast as long as you can survive the last phase but breaking the horns is not easy even with partbreaker you get the second break a little before the dragonator becomes active.
This is awesome, I was able to get 2 head breaks on my first go with just the Raging Brachy Greatsword, I think I'm going to get the Fatalis Greatsword with it to speed things along seeing how I'm only missing the helm and my weapon of choice atm
“Hi, cones here”
Thanks for the vid! Does this only work on the Special Assignment version or can this be done for the Event quest as well?
what shasvin said ^_^
Thanks! Question:
In the middle of the video you said that there is no need for tenderize because of crit draw. Does this mean that generally I shouldn’t care that much about tenderizing the head with any build during a normal fatalis run?
it depends on a few things. Softening gives two benefits - it raises the hitzone of a part (so basically extra damage) and lets the tenderiser skill give an additional 20% affinity. The extra damage component gives less bonus damage on parts that are already good targets (e.g. it makes a big difference on fatalis legs, a medium difference on the chest, and very little on the head)
Because im focussing the head, the bonus damage gained is very little. And because I'm not running the tenderise skill on this build for affinity (i use crit draw instead), i also gain no bonus on that front. So basically, because of my playstyle and build, I dont need to soften the head
of course, this varies from build to build, so it depends on what exactly you're using, and what parts of fatalis you plan on mostly hitting
Cons OA many thanks!
Does it mean that elemental weapons do not need to tenderize its head?
Is it bad that I can’t even do this
Nope. Me either. Shit's NOT easy, and watching people like Cons make it seem like it should be. I've come to this realization after trying to fight Fatalis for the past 3 weeks, and I no longer get as angry at myself for failing.
Can u actually kill him with only cone baiting, or does it take to long? Or does he stop with cones in later phases?
I feel I'm missing something here. Is not even a matter of gitting gud, I'm either staying at a wrong distance in a matter of literal steps or I'm the unluckiest fckr on this planet, because I trigger his cone like once every two mins, while spamming every other attack, making me cart in the long run (velk armor is not exactly optimal, defense-wise, against Fatalis).
And this is getting really frustrating.
Use safi gs get velk essence, use fatalis waist and leg to compensate velk armor bad deco slot.
Slot in hard fire res eat elemental res L.
Also slot in protection if you can it will save you
make sure youre following the relevant tips in the pinned comment, and yeah as shown above, baiting the cone is still largely RNG. I get enough cones to pretty much never dip above like 13 minutes when doing this tho, so it might also be a case of bad positioning on your part, hard to say without seeing you play
@@ConsOA Hi Cons, finally got the chance to watch your explanatory video about positioning, and I wanted to say thank you, not for the tips per se, but for the patience to go more in depth. I really really hope the one up here wasn't one of the "rude comments", because that wasn't meant at all. I really appreciated both your answer and your other video, at the point I felt stupid when I realized I hadn't subscribed yet. Well, now I have!
question, does it take more damage to break horn in multiplayer?
it does, i forget the exact ratios tho. Probably something like 50% more damage in 2 player, and maybe 150% in 4 players
Why does nobody know that if you tenderize the head THEN go for wallbang flinch shot it does bonus part damage. Part damage to that meaty head that we are trying to break for evil eye.
It states this in a normal quest tooltip.
Me and my friend duo this. And use this tenderize head before wall bang and guarantee double head break every run.
Do the decos have to be exact? And do you know roughly how many time you need to hit the head for this to work?
In my world Fatalis don't know the fire breath...
make sure you stand at the range i was, and leave the palico at home. it might take a couple minutes extra with bad rng but it should work eventually
When I hug him with dual blades he spams his fire breath and I have no time to get to his head lmao it’s enraging
Im glad you posted this, I was still trying to have the palico use plunderblade, this worked great, It took me 14 minutes to get the double headbreak
8:50 Wow how many fatalis you've killed?
cheat engine or a mod
Cyril Croissandeau or the fact that this is how he makes a living?
@@theabyssalone_ fatalis hasn't been out long enough to get over 1000 eyes. Definitely some cheating going on
Edit: I worked out out if he did this from day 1 and hasn't slept since fatalis came out and hasn't failed a single run he would have 1296. Thats not possible otherwise he's be dead
@@theabyssalone_ Even if he was doing it for a living, it doesn't mean he plays 23 hours a day, nor does it explain why he has 1000 of every ressource in the game.
And even with 3000 thousand hours of playtime you wouldn't reach the cap in points or zenny, anyway...
Not a bad thing btw, just a fact, and it doesn't mean he's not a monster.
ExiledWolf92 fair enough
Damn.. this was actually entertaining, even tho this video is very old, but I just re downloaded the game and it has being so hard to slay Fatalis lmao. Loved the vid bro, thanks for this video.
thank you! i hope you have a good time revisiting mhw, get those evil eyes!
Honestly I hate this Dragon's AI... Gimme a melee weapon he won't do the cone but the walking flamethrower(which I am shit at rolling) for days, gimme a lbg he still does the walking flamethrower but can bait the cone so much easier D:
He also seem more prone to doing the cone if you are directly infront of him like dead fucking on(which is hard to do when he is perpetually leaving floor bombs...) but if you are slightly off he's like "nah I'm good"
thanks a lot for this guide, took me a while to finally beat fatalis, now i can only focus on the eyes, granted it still takes me around 20 minutws for a single eye, still better than praying to the rgn for a plunderblade eye
But why not wall bang
After a few tries to learn the baiting range, I finally got my first evil eye at 18 mins! thanks!
congrats, and no problem!
Except you missed the part where you spend 25 minutes running around and fatalis only does the cone attack 4 times and you die
2 years later and this vid is still clutch as fuck man. Easy strat to understand, all the equipment is easy to get. God bless you, goddamn.
glad i could help! ty for the kind words
Honestly probably not only the highest quality mhw RUclipsr but also the most chill dude in the community
im gonna blush >///<
thanks
Can you do a version of this with fatalis armor? I have 4 piece already but I'm looking to farm more eyes consistently with this method. Or is it legitimately not worth it to do this without this set?
I found the right video 😉. I watched this and copied it as best as I could. I could never get enough cone attacks for a head break, but while I tried I was learning his attacks. It's now easier to just kill him lol
(BTW I love your content)
i know how dumb im gonna sound, but the cone baiting video I meant was ruclips.net/video/IZFvdHhmpys/видео.html
take a look if you havent seen it, but either way you sound like you've got the fight down
@@ConsOA ohhhhhhhhhhh I'm definitely sending that to a few friends still struggling
@@jarrodsmith4019 tell them to watch it muted tbh, i was real salty that vid >.
@@ConsOA Fatalis has a way of doing that, my man
as someone who has died to fatalis more times than i can count, i finally got a hardhorn cos of this method and your other vid on how to bait cones. thank you so much
I’ve had better luck with switch axe and just discharging element on his horns. Also tried to make this set but couldn’t manage to fit crit boost on it. Could I sacrifice something else for crit boost, or is it really that essential?
Doggoson Dog I was actually using a different set for SA, and by “better luck” I mean staying alive, haha. I wanted to do this Frostcraft GS but couldn’t manage to get Wex 3, Partbreaker 3, and crit boost 3 due to not having the right decos. I’ve only got Wex 2 and Partbreaker 2 (I have Ceit boost 3). I suppose it would work, but just take a bit longer. I was doing around 700ish damage with each hit. My problem is surviving without fire res ^^;
i think im using frostfang in this video, so just swap that out for damascus or something and thatll free up some points of focus in exchange for a few dps skills which are okay to sacrifice
or you probably dont even need focus altogether if you get to the cones in a timely manner
also eat for ele res food if you need the ele res, and maybe use a hard fire res deco
Cons OA Ah, thank you!
Hey Cons, what would be a good buildfor this strategy while assuming acess to Fatalis armor? Maybe 2 fatalis, 3 velkana and safi with velkana essence?
Thank you SO MUCH! After hours trying this sunday I decided to change my strategy and use the GS, and on my FIRST TRY I finally got an eye! This video saved me!
So uh, I missed out on the Frostfang Barioth event and so I can't get the armour, is there anything else I can sub for it? Also would the Lightbreak GS work just as well?
Isn’t the usj event up for it?
@@KRISIS1451 I believe I'm missing some tickets from the initial event. In the armour section there's a ticket with a ??? in the place of the ticket's name
That event and every other quest will be back when the Halloween Festival starts on the 15th of this month.
@@bringerchaos4142 darn have to wait another 5 days :( thanks though
is it worth doing flinch shots for the extra part damage on the head or just do the 3 claw attacks?
if its on all 4s then yeah go for it
Thank you very much for the video! I pulled this off yesterday and I was starting to think I would never get the evil eye!
this worked great for me, thanks cons. fairly consistent although not without some trial and error. i think its pretty cool that this and raging brachy are mr 24, so people who can bear with the bs can get mega op early on
So I main IG, and I'm just very curious about how this works with that. You mentioned it's the exact same, but since IG has some setup for the damage, do you use any of the extracts and/or get ammo to buff the kinsect while doing this or just go directly in during the cone with a raw IG?
get your buffs and kinsect extracts and stuff, and then just do what we do here, and pogo thrust every cone. takes a bit of aiming and practise to get good with the pogo, but when you do, it honestly does more damage than my gs does lol
@@ConsOA lol, perfect good to know. I was going with Tri+Circ+Circ each cone but I'll work on the pogo from now on, thanks for the info! Also amazing videos by the way
@Cons 0a i have a good question for you because i been trying to get this beast over 2 months now what is the best gear and easy wep to use on him
every weapon in this game plays so differently, your best bet is *usually* whichever weapon you're best with. Personally though, I found GS and IG the easiest and most consistent.
I have a guide up for most weapons, my advice would to be to watch the one for your fave weapon class and try and learn from it.
Best gear would vary a ton from weapon to weapon. Just get a nice dps set (you can plunderblade farm fatalis itself even, which is usually optimal if you have a good bunch of decorations) and then swap out dps skills for defensive ones as you need them. Fortify is nice, heavy artillery is great, HB3 is essential, etc.
Good luck!
Been doing the palico plunder blade farm for about 5-7 hours for 2 days now and only got 1 eye...
Late reply but as I just started doing Fatalis (and yes, I've not reached MR 100 so I don't have Ruiner or guiding lands really leveled), is Safi a good greatsword for this setup? I was thinking the Blast greatsword possibly.
edit: I know I'm doing this WAY earlier then I should be, but I did get the wingbreaks and plunderblade parts enough for the two piece fatalis already so I'm curious if that one is a good option to slot in as I don't really have any top level greatswords (I typically did LBG and dual blades for rest of game).
edit2: I also understand entirely that no matter what I do, it won't match this build you are using here, but I'm using it as a leaping off point. The other video about wingbreaks I used to get the first two pieces and it worked pretty well, so this is a dabbling I'm doing. You do great guides!
dont worry about it, it's a pain to grind mr so i understand doing things early, and I'm glad you acknowledge that you won't be able to match this build, but that's fine, itll just take a little longer
safi blast should work fine, and you can even get velk essence on it and run two piece fatalis if you think that could make the set better (no clue if it could), but otherwise just run as good a safi gs as you can. Otherwise, lightbreak GS (from raging brachy) is also great, probably better than the alatreon GS, but you might not have that done yet idk.
also im glad my other guide helped, hopefully you can make this one work too. Be sure to watch my vid on baiting cones (check the pinned comment on this video) if you struggle with that aspect, and dont forget to run partbreaker 3
@@ConsOA I have partbreaker three on my builds typically. I have done raging brach but I think I used my only reactor on the fatalis armor lol. The two special monsters I've not done yet are Furious Rajang and Fatalis.
Was wondering because the Safi siege is up now and that's something I can reliably do. I'll look into it and figure out what angle I want to go. Safi, farm another Brach or use my Aletreon parts from the two kills to get that greatsword.
Basically, it's a fun thing to dabble in, between hunts with friends. I'll be sure to check out that other video too.
@@daefaron yeah you've got quite a few options for sure. no matter what you choose, i hope you have a good time with it, and have good luck farming these eyes!
@@ConsOA The first challenge: Getting to the point where Aiden isn't standing around distracting it! lol
Just wanted to thank you, in about 2 hours I went from banging my head against this guy to a full set of fatalis armor and a weapon. You rule lol
What greatsword would you recommend if you do not have the alatreon? I'm trying my stick LBG first, but if I'm not getting the damage in then I wouldn't mind crafting a greatsword.
Most likely the Raging Brachy Lightbreak Blade or better yet a Safi GS with Velkhana Divinity so you only need 3 armor pieces to get Frostcraft.
I've tried this with fatalis GS but the -20 affinity make it difficult to get crit hit :(
do you have any recommendations ?
What's an alternative to Velkhana gamma set when I'm MR 50? I can successfully break his head once, but run out of time due to no frost craft.
Does your old reliable kinsect strat work for head breaks here? I’ve done the method in this video over a dozen times now, adjusting my spacing by minute increments each time. And no matter how far or close I am fatalis almost never does the cone. Maybe two times in twenty minutes. He instead spams his spinning flame attack no matter how far away I am. So does kinsect spam work on head breaks here?
it probably works, but would require really good kinsect aiming, which is a little tough. i plan on doing a video on baiting the cone soon, hopefully that helps
@@ConsOA Hey thanks for the reply. I was in your live stream the other night and despite pissing you off :D you helped me understand the flame spray (on four legs). So I’ve been managing it better. Got two evil eyes last night baiting cones though tbh it still takes me 20 minutes to get the second horn break haha but I’ll take what I can get
Smoke bombs are an easy way to control fatalis. And if you have aggro when you use them, he’ll go into his looking around animation, easy mode for firing the artillery at him.