Not much difference, in fact the pocket didn't sound thin to me, it sounded bright. Unless you are soloing I could not tell the difference. Been playing my whole life and own both a pocket and a full size. Thanx for the great head to head review.
Reading at all comments i see yours is more interesting since I need to ask a question , I have a mini pocket from ACB austin custom brass and when i played in a club the mini is louder and cut more than my regular trumpet also the high notes are easier when I play legato up high not the case when staccato ...articulation CHI is easier on the mini but articulation TA is harder ...if you know what i mean ....overall mini pocket sound very big Do you know what is the mystery behind that.?
@canditonoseastravieso I'd assume it's because of less tubing. Dont have to fight as hard or have as strong of a breath for high C vs regular trumpet high C
The pocket trumpet alone sounds a little - um, brassy - thin. With the anti-mute it sounds a bit more mellow, - fuller. approaching the Stradivarius. Close, but not quite there. In a marching band the difference wouldn't be noticeable. Thanks for the comparison. Jon
I used a pocket trumpet while my main horn was being cleaned at a local shop. At the time i was preparing for a region audition and was playing the excerpts on the pocket, it felt more difficult than my main horn, but once I got my main horn back it seemed like it really helped me, and playing on my main horn was much easier.
Same. I use my pocket a lot at church. It was hard at first, but I prefer its sound over my beginner trumpet. Then I went to practice one day on my standard trumpet and I felt like I could play it better than before.
It's not the pocket horn that made you play your regular one better. You had been rehearsing the music so you had better knowledge of the piece and when you went to back to your regular trumpet it was easier than your pocket horn it gave you the impression the pocket horn helped. People make this mistake constantly in the fitness/exercise world too.
@@pauldavies9360 true, but getting good using a (comparably) shitty instrument and then using a very good one can also mean a lot, because in most cheap instruments a lot of the effort is spent in not sounding horribly, when translated to a nice instrument it will give it a lot more rich sound
Seriously the pocket trumpet with the antimute sounds just as good as the full size. Super impressed by the sound quality. Listening on a 5.1 sound sound home theater system btw.
The Carol sounds a bit towards the cornet. Maybe, unlike me, it's wrapped nice and tight with more curves and less straights. The first thing that entered my mind was Holton C-150.
I also think the difference in mouthpieces are huge. I noticed a huge difference in sound between my yamaha 11b4 and the Denis Wick Ultra that I recently bought. Make another vid with the same mouthpiece in both, and we will know 😃
with the antimute in the pocket-trumpet sounds quite good to me. but don't forget that the player has a lot of control over the sound of a trumpet. A good player can make any trumpet sound good in comparison with an unexperienced player.
I bought a brand new Bach Stradivarius last month as a congrats for making first chair Honor Band for the start of next school year. I was given a $5000 from my parents to spend on a new Trumpet and supplies, the rest would return to them. Does not disappoint. The best part is that the Bach I bought was a limited edition celebrating 100 years of the Texas Music Educators Association (TMEA). As a result, only 100 were made, so I’m really freaking proud. I got pretty much everything I needed with the remaining $2000. Mouthpieces, cleaning supplies, mutes, the works. The thing was, I was scared about even getting this chance because I’m convinced I squeezed my parents bank accounts dry...
No practical difference. I play trumpet as well. I think you should have used your own mouthpiece with the pocket trumpet so that we're actually hearing the differences in the instrument, and not your playing with an unfamiliar/uncomfortable embouchure. On the other hand, even with the plastic mouthpiece, I was amazed at the quality of the sound (I expected something much worse). I did notice you use the slide on the Bach; did the mini-pocket trumpet have a third valve slide? I tended to like the sound without the anti-mute - but I was in the marching band, so... no accounting for taste. lol
Thanks for such a very interesting session; practically they sound quite identical. But the standard size maybe more sensible to dynamics. How loud can it be and how soft can play with ease? How do you feel in terms of air demand? But it looks nice and sounded great!
The CarolBrass mini pocket trumpet doesn't slot as securely as your full-sized Bach, and it is easier to "bend" notes once slotted, which requires some lipping up or down to get it on pitch. It is made of yellow brass which supposedly is the brightest sounding grade of brass (compared to those with a higher copper content, e.g., "gold" and "rose" brass), and so it will not sound as dark or rich as other grades of brass. You've probably also noticed, Trumpet Guy, that once you play below low C that slotting and pitch become even more challenging. I think a good PVA (precision valve alignment) would improve this problem vastly, but depending on who you go to, you can pay easily over $200 for this service (e.g., Bob Reeves, where I go for PVAs) - definitely worth the money if like your horn and plan to keep it for the long term. The CarolBrass mini pocket trumpet is a lot of fun to play, although it naturally has a little bit more resistance to its blow, and I plan on trying it out with the band I primarily play keyboards in to see how it does in that context. Cheers!
The Strat of course is more centered in tone and timbre with accurate slotting but the Carol mini is surprisingly decent and would be a nice emergency horn if your go-to instrument is lost or mechanically fails in some acute way. The mini is a nice practice or warm-up axe and the convenient carry strap bag case makes it an easy choice for the travelling horn player, even without the 1st and 3rd valve slides the mini has noticeably good sound quality and acceptable intonation...🎺🎵👍
@@AitkrapooYT A decent quality pocket trumpet with a free-blowing mute so the neighbors don't come and run you out of town on a rail...🎺🎵🎧🎚️ I would recommend a Carol Brass or Allora pocket trumpet. Both can be had for less than 500.00 and you have to buy trumpet oil to put in the valves after cleaning to keep them lubed and learn how to properly dismantle and service the parts after every third or fourth use to control harmful bacteria that comes from your own breath and saliva, just a tip to help you maintain the horn and avoid illness...
I have the Allora pocket trumpet with a rose (red copper alloy) brass leadpipe and bell for an easy tone production and more mellow sound because most pocket horns tend to sound very metallic or "military" and this can be unpleasant to the ear and sonically unmusical to the listener... You can go to Carol brass.com and woodwind andbrasswind.com to browse through their b-flat pocket trumpets to pick out what you like and feel free to hit me up for more input if you need further noise on the subject ok? Thx...
A learned about the existence of the pocket trumpet in my college jazz history course when the advant-garde artist Ornette Coleman would use one for studio recording. Being a decently experienced trumpet player myself, I kind of want to get one, so I had a couple questions (if you happen to find this comment). Would I be able to use my own trumpet mouthpiece on a pocket trumpet or would I have to use the smaller plastic one? Secondly, would practicing on it affect my playing on the full-size trumpet for worse?
You can use your own trumpet mouthpiece! I got my mini pocket trumpet a few days ago, and for me, it was difficult to play with the plastic mouthpiece, so I very fast bought a Bach 7C mouthpiece, which for me made a huge difference.
As someone who grew up playing cornet, who prefers more of a round, mellow tone, I liked the tone of the pocket trumpet with the anti-mute the best. Without the anti-mute the pocket trumpet seemed a bit buzzy and uncontrolled at higher volume.
Any mistake or hesitation is picked up clearly on the Pocket, whereas the normal is more forgiving. I can't tell if that's you getting used to their physical differences or if that's the instrument itself being unforgiving. This situation feels similar to a classical guitar with poor sustain, and one with good sustain. A guitar with poor sustain will highlight poor timing and imperfections in technique because the audience doesn't feel the prior notes bridge the gap to the new ones, so the music sounds more like a collection of notes than a flowing piece. The solution is to practice with a focus on precision and confident timing.
I couldn't tell the difference in tone, but the phrasing on the mini pocket was slightly off, like it had more resistance. I suspect the greatest difference was in the feel.
There is a difference, but I understand that it is not designed to be played for solo performances and orchestras and just for practice when you don't want to carry around a full sized trumpet.
Yeah... no surprise that the pocket trumpet has a thinner cardboard box sound. The most surprising thing is the effect of the anti-mute. I had not expected that to work that well. I have an ordinary pocket trumpet... Maybe I should see if I can get an anti-mute.
I listened without watching the video and at least through iPad speakers there was exactly zero difference between the two. Pretty good endorsement for the little guy
The pocket trumpet doesn’t sound that much different, but seems very awkward to handle. Finger placement seems very difficult compared to a standard horn.
Hi there im interested in getting a brass instrument. Im a complete beginner and I will just be playing for fun. What do you recommend? I think a sax is too complicated.
I’m looking for a small trumpet to use for school and for practicing. do you thing the pocket trumpet would be good for this or should I spend my money on a regular trumpet?
The difference I saw was that the pocket was louder that the trumpet, but when theres the mute it sounds like the trumpet, but maybe more graceful, idk??
i read the comments while you played. so I wouldn't judge by what I saw and only by what I heard. sounds like you were playing the same horn the whole time.
I know what that’s like. My son asked me to play at his funeral. I made it through one verse of Amazing Grace; it was all I could do. Then came the 21 gun salute. I hadn’t played in years. It’s been 2 years and I’m still playing. Thanks Michael.
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Not much difference, in fact the pocket didn't sound thin to me, it sounded bright. Unless you are soloing I could not tell the difference. Been playing my whole life and own both a pocket and a full size. Thanx for the great head to head review.
Reading at all comments i see yours is more interesting since I need to ask a question ,
I have a mini pocket from ACB austin custom brass and when i played in a club the mini is louder and cut more than my regular trumpet also the high notes are easier when I play legato up high not the case when staccato ...articulation CHI is easier on the mini but articulation TA is harder ...if you know what i mean ....overall mini pocket sound very big
Do you know what is the mystery behind that.?
@canditonoseastravieso I'd assume it's because of less tubing. Dont have to fight as hard or have as strong of a breath for high C vs regular trumpet high C
The pocket trumpet alone sounds a little - um, brassy - thin. With the anti-mute it sounds a bit more mellow, - fuller. approaching the Stradivarius. Close, but not quite there. In a marching band the difference wouldn't be noticeable. Thanks for the comparison. Jon
I used a pocket trumpet while my main horn was being cleaned at a local shop. At the time i was preparing for a region audition and was playing the excerpts on the pocket, it felt more difficult than my main horn, but once I got my main horn back it seemed like it really helped me, and playing on my main horn was much easier.
Same. I use my pocket a lot at church. It was hard at first, but I prefer its sound over my beginner trumpet. Then I went to practice one day on my standard trumpet and I felt like I could play it better than before.
It's not the pocket horn that made you play your regular one better.
You had been rehearsing the music so you had better knowledge of the piece and when you went to back to your regular trumpet it was easier than your pocket horn
it gave you the impression the pocket horn helped.
People make this mistake constantly in the fitness/exercise world too.
@@pauldavies9360 true, but getting good using a (comparably) shitty instrument and then using a very good one can also mean a lot, because in most cheap instruments a lot of the effort is spent in not sounding horribly, when translated to a nice instrument it will give it a lot more rich sound
Seriously the pocket trumpet with the antimute sounds just as good as the full size. Super impressed by the sound quality. Listening on a 5.1 sound sound home theater system btw.
Everyones gangsta in the marching band till i pull out the pocket trumpet
To me they sounded pretty much in par ,If i wasn't watching the video and just going by sound ,i would say it was the same Trumpet being played .
Same here😁
it sounded like he was working MUCH harder to play the tiny one, to get the notes out just right
Seems like there isn’t much of a difference for those that aren’t pros. Thanks for doing the comparison, you rock!
The pocket with the antimute produces a very nice sound. Eyes closed it sounded at least even with the Bach.
Did you notice a difference in back pressure? If so, is it significant?
Did I miss the part of the video where he played the trumpets??
The Carol sounds a bit towards the cornet. Maybe, unlike me, it's wrapped nice and tight with more curves and less straights. The first thing that entered my mind was Holton C-150.
I also think the difference in mouthpieces are huge. I noticed a huge difference in sound between my yamaha 11b4 and the Denis Wick Ultra that I recently bought. Make another vid with the same mouthpiece in both, and we will know 😃
The mini pocket trumpet looks great for travel. Great vid :)
with the antimute in the pocket-trumpet sounds quite good to me. but don't forget that the player has a lot of control over the sound of a trumpet. A good player can make any trumpet sound good in comparison with an unexperienced player.
Could you use a "real" (metal) mouthpiece with it? does it make much of a difference?
the pocket trumpet with the anti mute sound just like the full trumpet
I bought a brand new Bach Stradivarius last month as a congrats for making first chair Honor Band for the start of next school year. I was given a $5000 from my parents to spend on a new Trumpet and supplies, the rest would return to them. Does not disappoint. The best part is that the Bach I bought was a limited edition celebrating 100 years of the Texas Music Educators Association (TMEA). As a result, only 100 were made, so I’m really freaking proud. I got pretty much everything I needed with the remaining $2000. Mouthpieces, cleaning supplies, mutes, the works. The thing was, I was scared about even getting this chance because I’m convinced I squeezed my parents bank accounts dry...
No practical difference. I play trumpet as well. I think you should have used your own mouthpiece with the pocket trumpet so that we're actually hearing the differences in the instrument, and not your playing with an unfamiliar/uncomfortable embouchure. On the other hand, even with the plastic mouthpiece, I was amazed at the quality of the sound (I expected something much worse). I did notice you use the slide on the Bach; did the mini-pocket trumpet have a third valve slide? I tended to like the sound without the anti-mute - but I was in the marching band, so... no accounting for taste. lol
The voice crack at 49 seconds 😂
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Funnier than a crack trumpet sound
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@@matthieu6679 I thought I was the only one who called it that. XD
Sound similar, I agree do a quick comparison using SAME mouthpiece(s).
It's so weird seeing a trumpet as long as a sandwich or something close to that.😂😂😂 I'm used to my trumpet but they sound pretty much identical to me.
Thanks for such a very interesting session; practically they sound quite identical. But the standard size maybe more sensible to dynamics. How loud can it be and how soft can play with ease? How do you feel in terms of air demand? But it looks nice and sounded great!
The CarolBrass mini pocket trumpet doesn't slot as securely as your full-sized Bach, and it is easier to "bend" notes once slotted, which requires some lipping up or down to get it on pitch. It is made of yellow brass which supposedly is the brightest sounding grade of brass (compared to those with a higher copper content, e.g., "gold" and "rose" brass), and so it will not sound as dark or rich as other grades of brass. You've probably also noticed, Trumpet Guy, that once you play below low C that slotting and pitch become even more challenging. I think a good PVA (precision valve alignment) would improve this problem vastly, but depending on who you go to, you can pay easily over $200 for this service (e.g., Bob Reeves, where I go for PVAs) - definitely worth the money if like your horn and plan to keep it for the long term. The CarolBrass mini pocket trumpet is a lot of fun to play, although it naturally has a little bit more resistance to its blow, and I plan on trying it out with the band I primarily play keyboards in to see how it does in that context. Cheers!
The Strat of course is more centered in tone and timbre with accurate slotting but the Carol mini is surprisingly decent and would be a nice emergency horn if your go-to instrument is lost or mechanically fails in some acute way.
The mini is a nice practice or warm-up axe and the convenient carry strap bag case makes it an easy choice for the travelling horn player, even without the 1st and 3rd valve slides
the mini has noticeably good sound quality and acceptable intonation...🎺🎵👍
You seem to know a lot about music, so if I wanted to play a trumpet, but didn’t want to spend $1,000 on a good one, would a pocket trumpet be good?
@@AitkrapooYT A decent quality pocket trumpet with a free-blowing mute so the neighbors don't come and run you out of town on a rail...🎺🎵🎧🎚️
I would recommend a Carol Brass or Allora pocket trumpet.
Both can be had for less than 500.00 and you have to buy trumpet oil to put in the valves after cleaning to keep them lubed and learn how to properly dismantle
and service the parts after every third or fourth use to control harmful bacteria that comes from your own
breath and saliva, just a tip
to help you maintain the horn and avoid illness...
I have the Allora pocket trumpet with a rose (red copper alloy) brass leadpipe and bell for an easy tone production and more mellow sound because most pocket horns
tend to sound very metallic or "military" and this can be unpleasant to the ear and sonically unmusical to the listener...
You can go to Carol brass.com and woodwind andbrasswind.com to browse through their b-flat pocket trumpets to pick out what you like and feel free to hit me up for more input
if you need further noise on the subject ok? Thx...
whoa whoa whoa... I take offense that a "band geek" just called a trumpet an "axe". The rock gods are angry.
@@urwholefamilydied They'll be alright, i'm sure...🙃🎺🤓
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A learned about the existence of the pocket trumpet in my college jazz history course when the advant-garde artist Ornette Coleman would use one for studio recording. Being a decently experienced trumpet player myself, I kind of want to get one, so I had a couple questions (if you happen to find this comment). Would I be able to use my own trumpet mouthpiece on a pocket trumpet or would I have to use the smaller plastic one? Secondly, would practicing on it affect my playing on the full-size trumpet for worse?
You can use your own trumpet mouthpiece! I got my mini pocket trumpet a few days ago, and for me, it was difficult to play with the plastic mouthpiece, so I very fast bought a Bach 7C mouthpiece, which for me made a huge difference.
@@runealnervik thank you very much!
Don Cherry is certainly the most famous jazz player of pocket trumpet.
The full size trumpet has your air core opened up more, so you have more sound potential, instead if being cramped up
As someone who grew up playing cornet, who prefers more of a round, mellow tone, I liked the tone of the pocket trumpet with the anti-mute the best. Without the anti-mute the pocket trumpet seemed a bit buzzy and uncontrolled at higher volume.
I really want one of these so I can bring it on trips and stuff instead of my trumpet
Say no more, Im a beginner and Ive been eyeing this one mailny cause of the size. Thanks for the review~!!
I think you could make a duck call sound great! I hope you thank your creator daily for your talent(s). From whom else could they possibly come!?
The Bach sounds way more in tune.
Sounds just as good!
Yo Trumpet Guy! They Sound Quite Similar. 🎺 🎺 ❤️
1/ to compare sound, a trumpet requires a hall with good acoustics. 2/ to compare trumpets, a strong player is required.
In my opinion, the Strad is a bit full bodied in sound. But, the mini will do for travelling.
I think it would be a better buy for young and beginner musicians.
Does the bigger bell allow you to fit mutes in better?
Is the backpressure noticeable higher on the pocket trumpet?
The pocket is pretty good! Better than I expected, but Obviously the Stradivarius is better.
Any mistake or hesitation is picked up clearly on the Pocket, whereas the normal is more forgiving. I can't tell if that's you getting used to their physical differences or if that's the instrument itself being unforgiving. This situation feels similar to a classical guitar with poor sustain, and one with good sustain. A guitar with poor sustain will highlight poor timing and imperfections in technique because the audience doesn't feel the prior notes bridge the gap to the new ones, so the music sounds more like a collection of notes than a flowing piece. The solution is to practice with a focus on precision and confident timing.
I'd like to know if it was harder in any sense to play the mini
Put more air in the horn
I couldn't tell the difference in tone, but the phrasing on the mini pocket was slightly off, like it had more resistance. I suspect the greatest difference was in the feel.
Whats the song u played? The pocket Trumpet is worth it
Excellent comparison video. Thanks!
There is a difference, but I understand that it is not designed to be played for solo performances and orchestras and just for practice when you don't want to carry around a full sized trumpet.
Is that a trumpet in your pocket, yes it is!
Yeah... no surprise that the pocket trumpet has a thinner cardboard box sound. The most surprising thing is the effect of the anti-mute. I had not expected that to work that well.
I have an ordinary pocket trumpet... Maybe I should see if I can get an anti-mute.
I listened without watching the video and at least through iPad speakers there was exactly zero difference between the two. Pretty good endorsement for the little guy
Is the little one 'harder' to play..? Meaning: to blow the air trough ?
The pocket trumpet doesn’t sound that much different, but seems very awkward to handle. Finger placement seems very difficult compared to a standard horn.
Great vídeo! What are you doing in 4:13 with the third finger in your left hand? Thanks!!
Well, the Strat is obviously brighter and crisp. And the pocket one has more miss and low end.
possible silly question but what song did you play after fur elise?
Let’s go another banger!
they both sound about the same... great playing
hey i have a old trumpet that says ROYAL PROFESSIONAL on horn what is it can find any info
ok, so if i buy a mini-trumpet for my child, it won't be a toy, it really sounds good. good to know.
Thanks
Hi there im interested in getting a brass instrument. Im a complete beginner and I will just be playing for fun. What do you recommend? I think a sax is too complicated.
if I wanted to play a trumpet, but didn’t want to spend $1,000 on a good one, would a pocket trumpet be good?
honestly probably not. they play pretty out of tune most of the time. There are definitely cheaper options for trumpet instead
Is pocket trumpete good for childreen prátices de??
Pocket trumpet sounded more loud and full, and the professional on sounded more mellow and rich.
seems like you have way less control with the pocket... the volume is all over the place, some notes sounded off, etc.
Where can you purchase an anti mute?
It must be much harder to hit low Es and Bs without a third valve slide
Great video. Thank you for taking the time to give the rest of us instruction. Subscribing!
I’m looking for a small trumpet to use for school and for practicing. do you thing the pocket trumpet would be good for this or should I spend my money on a regular trumpet?
I don't think a pocket trumpet is a great idea for school. Definitely recommend getting a regular one for school use
great explanation. thanks from brazil🎉
Nice like always.
Why don't they just make the pocket trumpet with the bigger bell instead of the attachment? Sounds good but looks ridiculous.
Couldn't tell you. Probably just wouldn't work with the sizing of everything else.
@@trumpet_guy I hope you get an endorsement deal. Lots of free stuff!
@@trumpet_guy Oh I get it, the slides wouldn't pull out? Hope they send you a Blackhawk mini next.
@@trumpet_guy I thought it was an attachment so u could use a regular mute. Not so much, huh?
The Carol Brass CPT-3000 has a full sized bell and is supposed to take regular sized trumpet mutes.
Could you please try to play golden swagger and make a tutorial
The difference I saw was that the pocket was louder that the trumpet, but when theres the mute it sounds like the trumpet, but maybe more graceful, idk??
Have you heard of Andrea Giuffredi? I love him😊do you like him?
i read the comments while you played. so I wouldn't judge by what I saw and only by what I heard. sounds like you were playing the same horn the whole time.
Hey man I love you vids. Keep up the good work.👍
Sounds like your lip positioning is effecting your tone, gives off a sort of muffled mellow tone.
The antimute actually helps a lot
How much is the Carol Brass one? You say at some point "for the price you also get..." but never mentioned the price prior to that
It is $480
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I don't know what to choose !
The sound of the mini pocket is much more shallow than the normal trumpet.
That playing reminded me of a recent funeral I attended they payed the trumpet’s then proceeded to shoot rifles into the air man so emotional
I know what that’s like. My son asked me to play at his funeral. I made it through one verse of Amazing Grace; it was all I could do. Then came the 21 gun salute. I hadn’t played in years. It’s been 2 years and I’m still playing. Thanks Michael.
Could anyone please tell me the song, piece, he is playing ??
la vie en rose
The first one Is fur elise
Carole brass...
KIN
PLAYED HER TRUMPET
BUZZED IT
the pocket trampet is better
Hii remember me
Of course
IDK... The pocket sounded great to me... I imagine it would be even better with a brass mouthpiece.
Awesome video!
Thanks!
The small trumpet doesn't cost 480 it cost minimum 125$
Pocket trumpet had a darker sound (preferred).
La vie en rose sounded epic
facts. i love that song.
Dude you need to move to a new mouthpiece like a 3c, get used to that then a 2 or 1.5 c or b
Hi
Bach trumpet sounded more open. Pocket trumpet sounded alittle stuffy
VERY GOOD BOY!!!....
The sound difference is so small; nothing is missed.
I actually thought the pocket sounded fuller and brighter. 🤷🏽♂️
Awesome!
Carol Brasskin.