If you want a travel trumpet with both Bb and C slides, get the Yamaha 4435, it has a full set of slides rather than just changing the main tuning slide. The best part is that it's actually a good playing horn.
I would and it's a decent horn... But then I would be paying way more than I am willing for a travel horn. Full disclosure, if I'm traveling for a gig I will take my actual Horns... If I'm traveling for vacation then I take a horn like this, although I always end up almost never pulling it out. So paying over 1k USD for a Bb/C I would hardly play is not worth it to me. However, paying $250 works for me.
I cannot remember the name of the piece you're playing, can you remind me? Nice job, btw! EDIT: you have the name in the video, "Variations of the Theme from Norma". Very nice.
@@pabloh5896 that is actually not correct... The valve blocks are the same on a C and Bb horn so the valve size would be the same. Also the main difference between a Bb horn and C (as far as what key the horns play in) is the length of the main tuning slide. If you lengthen the main slide on a C trumpet enough , then it plays in Bb. Now if you want both configurations to play in tune then yes you would probably need a new set of slides (3rd valve and first valve) for the different keys. Yamaha and Shilke do this on their Eb/D trumpets. However those trumpets are in the $4000usd range so not fair to compare to this cheap trumpet
@@chebachaka price changes all the Time on Ali Express so if you wait a while it might not back down. And no the watch is a Mido Oceanstar 39mm...most certainly not an Ali Express watch... Although I have purchased a few watches on Ali Express in the past
@@eundoparkmusic those all seem very different (the B flats) can you describe how the blow of each one feels to you, and how you adjust to them? Also, I've never heard of Austin winds -is that a local maker?
@frankwcrespo Austin Winds is a local horn maker and they make the best Bbs I've ever used. The 460 model is more of a standard horn with a. 460 lead pipe. However the tuning and response are incredible on it and i use it for most situations from classical music, musicals, to jazz. The 470lt is a light weight very large bore horn. It has a. 470 reverse lead pipe and a large 5inch bell. It blows incredibly free and has literally made me a better player. I primarily use it for jazz and commercial playing. And then my Strad is well... A Strad. Its an early Elkhart horn (1965) so plays pretty much like a Mt Vernon model. Super great tone and blows great...but does still have some of the older Bach tuning quarks. But I use it when other folks in the section are all playing Bach or Yahama so we can have a better blend of tone
The more "standard" looking ones I can understand, but I really don't understand why they try to pass these flaired up models as being Bach. Still, was expecting it to be awful, and it looks like it's livable, kudos to them.
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If you want a travel trumpet with both Bb and C slides, get the Yamaha 4435, it has a full set of slides rather than just changing the main tuning slide. The best part is that it's actually a good playing horn.
I would and it's a decent horn... But then I would be paying way more than I am willing for a travel horn. Full disclosure, if I'm traveling for a gig I will take my actual Horns... If I'm traveling for vacation then I take a horn like this, although I always end up almost never pulling it out. So paying over 1k USD for a Bb/C I would hardly play is not worth it to me. However, paying $250 works for me.
Thanks interesting review. It's scary to pull the trigger on something like that because the return shipping is so high. Glad you did it for us!
I cannot remember the name of the piece you're playing, can you remind me? Nice job, btw! EDIT: you have the name in the video, "Variations of the Theme from Norma". Very nice.
Cool playing
Definitely sounds like the valve slides were meant for the C configuration, looks like it too. Second valve slide is very long though.
How can it play in C? Surely the valve slides all need to be shortened too!
@@pabloh5896 that is actually not correct... The valve blocks are the same on a C and Bb horn so the valve size would be the same. Also the main difference between a Bb horn and C (as far as what key the horns play in) is the length of the main tuning slide. If you lengthen the main slide on a C trumpet enough , then it plays in Bb. Now if you want both configurations to play in tune then yes you would probably need a new set of slides (3rd valve and first valve) for the different keys. Yamaha and Shilke do this on their Eb/D trumpets. However those trumpets are in the $4000usd range so not fair to compare to this cheap trumpet
Even the 2nd valve slide is shortened for a C compared to a B flat.
Is the intonation worse in the C configuration compared to Bb?
@@zuraforreg3088 it's bad in both but a little bit worse in Bb
The Bb extension is what makes it wonky. Berkley Winds has the same issue with their Bb/C trumpet.
Agreed... It's really a C with an extension. But for what I paid for it I can make it work
@eundoparkmusic As a C Trumpet it's really at minimum usable/passable.
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It says 314 not 250, also is that an ali express watch you are wearing to go along with your ali express trumpet?
@@chebachaka price changes all the Time on Ali Express so if you wait a while it might not back down. And no the watch is a Mido Oceanstar 39mm...most certainly not an Ali Express watch... Although I have purchased a few watches on Ali Express in the past
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What is your professional horn?
@frankwcrespo my Bbs are Austin Winds Stage 470LT, Austin Winds Stage 460, Bach Strad 37 from 1965, I use a Bach Strad C, Yamaha Eb and piccolo
@@eundoparkmusic those all seem very different (the B flats) can you describe how the blow of each one feels to you, and how you adjust to them? Also, I've never heard of Austin winds -is that a local maker?
@frankwcrespo Austin Winds is a local horn maker and they make the best Bbs I've ever used. The 460 model is more of a standard horn with a. 460 lead pipe. However the tuning and response are incredible on it and i use it for most situations from classical music, musicals, to jazz. The 470lt is a light weight very large bore horn. It has a. 470 reverse lead pipe and a large 5inch bell. It blows incredibly free and has literally made me a better player. I primarily use it for jazz and commercial playing. And then my Strad is well... A Strad. Its an early Elkhart horn (1965) so plays pretty much like a Mt Vernon model. Super great tone and blows great...but does still have some of the older Bach tuning quarks. But I use it when other folks in the section are all playing Bach or Yahama so we can have a better blend of tone
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Thanks for the suggestion...I'll take it into consideration.
@@eundoparkmusic thank you
The more "standard" looking ones I can understand, but I really don't understand why they try to pass these flaired up models as being Bach.
Still, was expecting it to be awful, and it looks like it's livable, kudos to them.
Not gonna lie it sounds way better than I was expecting