I STUFFED UP!! Overloaded my Roof
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- I STUFFED UP!! Overloaded my Roof
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The true measure of a man is his ability to stand tall and admit to his mistakes and vow to become better well done
I thought it was to do an upload on a Sunday morning while appreciating a good rack.
So true, was going to say something the same but true true!!!!
The controversy leads to more views and attention to the channel anyway, it's not necessarily a negative
Yeah kinda but you don't really have any choice on yt either way
Cheers to that 🤘
The man who never made a mistake never made anything
No mistake was made on Ronny's behalf. The mistake is on Rhino's behalf for not being transparent about their products which are not fit for purpose. Or maybe it's intentional.
@@cyclemoto8744 to say rhino "unintentionally" only give you means to this info in the fitting instructions, which most people dont read till they buy it and are throwing it on the vehicle, is bullshit at it's finest. they know they'd have no market if people knew how the load ratings were calculated.
@@cyclemoto8744 I just looked at another brand to test the theory and it was bloody hard to find the specifications as well. It seems to be an industry wide problem.
@@chrisjie2127 Only brand I found which lists the off road rating is Front Runner
@@cyclemoto8744 Ronny’s mistake was dismissing the negative reviews as the 3 percenters hence the title I stuffed up.
This whole video is a testament to how much you care about your audience; it makes me trust you even more than I already did.
Hear! Hear! I agree completely
because of Tyler thompson, we learnt the lesson the easy way. thanks Ronny for shining a brighter light on this.
Great video mate, covered all the important points. Definitely vital information that everyone needs to be aware of and unfortunately most people are not.
Hopefully we can help stop a heap of others ending up in the same predicament/dangerous situation on our roads. Thanks for helping spread the information out there 👌
Thank you tyler. I read your dialogue with ronny. Initially he brushed off your comments. Having experienced the exact same issue im glad your started the ball rolling to get this sorted. Props to ronny for making good his initial response to you. Cheers mate
On ya mate 👍
Awesome to see he followed up on your comment and video!
Good for you Tyler! Getting this out further than your own audience. Obviously sucks for all parties involved but you and Ronny and Rhino rack have possibly made the 4wd scene a safer one.
good on you Tylzz your a legend mate
Your only human, Don't think to much about it , Your humble and one of the most honest people, I've learned a lot and continue to .
You’re y-o-u-‘-r-e. There you go. You learnt something else. Ha ha ha
Couldn’t agree with you more mate
DON'T BE TOO HARD ON YOURSELF, RONNY! You have helped to create an amazing community here along with Tyler, 4WD 24-7, BNB, MCM, ect. Uncovering this roof rack problem is one of the many benefits of being apart of this community. By bringing us together, we all can help and learn from each other. Thank you Ronny!
4wd 27 are just adds now bro i dont trust them at all
I've got no respect for Rhino, spending upwards of $1500 to get a rack with an off road capacity of less than 30 kg is a disgrace and rhino should be ashamed.
you may as well drive with your left hand and your right hand holding on to the gas bottle on top.
on second thoughts....
To be fair, it's not completely Rhino's fault. Passenger vehicles aren't designed to carry loads on the roof. The roof rails can only hold so much before, as Tyler experienced, the fasteners rip right out. What's the point of putting a 500kg rated roof rack on, when the roof fixing point can only hold 50kg off road? The only way around it is to install internal roll bars and attach to them through the roof metal.
I do agree Rhino's public relations exercise was disappointing.
Dude I have a Volkswagen and the off-road capacity with the bars and rack is still 140 pounds lol this has more to do with the truck manufacturer. Read your trucks owners manual before buying aftermarket accessories
@@NB-ir1me Same, have a 4door VW Golf that has the big bolts under the door rubber molding going right into the chassis that the roof rack supports attach to.
Then I watch these videos where people say like roof tents are not safe because the roof sheet metal can only hold so much - I think if you buy a SUV/truck etc where the roof rack is not attached to the chassis then that is your own problem...
@@NB-ir1me Indeed, and just being appatanty ly unaware of the difference in static vs dynamic loads.
Nice to see you admit you stuffed up, then put things right. That’s the way we all learn and we all learn from you, Tyler and other honest, genuine RUclipsrs. Much appreciated. Good job Ronny!👍
This video has doubled Ronnys already high credibility in my eyes. Excellent information and very refreshing to see someone admit to having stuffed up and acknowledging the learning curve they’ve been through! Awesome video mate!
This speaks volumes of who you are as a person. Really appreciate the amount of thought and feelings you put into owning your mistake. I wouldn't have thought twice about loading what you had on the Hilux.
My opinion: Ronny is “the man.” Courage & humility is always the true measure of a human being.
Mate I honestly don’t think I have ever looked up my rack load rating on any 4wd I have ever owned until I got a new one and realised how bloody low they are and how confusing it all is. Massive thanks to Tyler for giving us the heads up and well done for swallowing your pride and putting this up. Many would have denied or ignored it for sponsorship money.
Also feeling pretty smug with my Front Runner rack 😂
Harry what’s for dinner tonight 🍻
Harry, im a subscriber to you, tyler and ronny. Ive also experienced the rhino rivets sheering so know first hand how bad the mounting system is. I too highly recommend the frontrunner system, after having experienced the rhino failure. Something MUST be done by rhino to remedy this potentially lethal mounting system
So, did you talk Ronny into a Front Runner rack?
Pretty damn stoked the Fire to Fork channel opened my eyes to the front runner rack right when I purchased a “land cruiser“ mall crawler + new rack.
Safe to say the only limit I had to worry about was the McDonald’s 2.2m drive through limit.
Cheers Harry & Fred 👏
This will also be good for Tylers channel. He deserves more subs.
This is the number one reason I'm subscribed and follow you......You're straight forward, there's no bullshit, and your integrity, which if was questioned earlier there should be no doubts now. Much respect!
I thought somebody died that's how serious Ronny was.
lmao
I know you are just playing but honestly it is a fatality waiting to happen if people don't know about it actually being an issue. So if you think about it, it's better that he is very serious for a very serious matter with such horrific potential outcomes. If it saves 1 life it's worth the seriousness. But again I know you are just joking and probably aware of what I just wrote so I don't even know why I'm sending this 🤣
Yup Tyler Thompson definitely opened my eyes to loading my roof rack 👍
TT boy. Good on you Ronny for taking notice and playing a straight bat.
💯.. everyone stuff up. It's how you feel with. Well-done Ronny
@@kushil I don't see how he stuffed up. Have a look at the Rhino website and look at the specs on the racks. No mention of "deduct 1/3 of the weight carrying capacity for off road use". Happy to be proven wrong, however, I looked, and the information is not there.
@@cyclemoto8744 i agree its not as obvious as you would expect, but it does say in the instruction / install manual, bit late once your purchased i might add, but manufactures and accessories are based on sealed roads, not this crazy off road stuff we do.
@@graemetowner7257 yep, much too late. Like buying a 4wd only to find after the fact that it's only designed for 4wd use on a golf green.
Ronny. Your best video yet. It is fundamental that we all learn from this, your honest reflection and learning are spot on. By sharing this you have earned greater respect from me and I believe many others. You stand up for your own mistake, when in all honesty many others would gloss over the issue. Thank you and well done!
Jeeeeeeez a week ago we were explaining this to you and you wouldn’t believe us. Now you’re a bloomin’ expert. Classic Ronny
Top marks though for conceding you were wrong.
Our Boy Tyler making an impact on the big boys on RUclips, good to see you made this video explaining everything mate, I haven't looked at the comments but I almost made a comment about it as well but sounds like you got the idea 😅
As soon as he said roof rack I remembered Tyler’s video on the same
you and tyler should do a trip, he seems like a top bloke
He is. Down to earth next door neighbor type of a guy. Not exciting but f*cking honest and fun to watch.
Absolutely
It takes a humble man to admit a mistake, well done Ronny.
Tyler thanks for making us more aware of the dangers we didn't realise we faced.
Cheers fellas.
Expertly done, I apologise for being curt but I feel now, you have done more than your part in generating awareness in something that I think we all feel a little stupid for overlooking. Myself included. Much respect
Roof top tent makers are nervously while watching this video😂
they are sweating bullets 😂
Yeah for sure. Exactly my thoughts.
Good man, Ronny. People need to know this. Tyler's video was an eye-opener for me.
HOLY SHIT !!! Thanks a lot for sharing this info. Till now I didn't even know, that there is an offroad-load-rating for roof racks. I always thought, there is only ONE rating. And I also didn't know, that the weight of the roof rack has to be sustracted from this load limit. Now I seriously think twice about installing a roof rack on my 4x4. You did great by correcting some of your statements. That surely does not harm your credibility and your channel is still one of my favourite. Stay safe and have fun. Good luck.
Despite the controversy surrounding your last video, I think that as a fellow creator and long time follower, that the quality of your content Ronny has improved 10 fold. Just from the changing camera angles to lighting and some really nice shots offroad and of course editing. Really good to see you and Tyler met each other, unfortunate of the conditions but you both are big inspirations to how I create myself. Keep it up mate. Cheers Ryan
Huge respect Ronny for doing this video, and a huge thank you to Tyler Thompson for bringing this to our attention in the first place.
People are still failing to understand its not the rack that's the limiting factor. Its the roof.
You have x amount of weight the roof can handle minus the weight of the rack minus the load on the rack then divide by x for offroad.
There is also a maximum load height for roofs also.
Thanks for your honesty! And you're spot on, its not just roof racks! Great stuff
good on ya Ronny, good to see one of the "big creators" standing up and being able to admit they were wrong and not just bully everyone out of their way, so much respect for you!
Thanks to Tyler Thompson 👍😉
Yes he did the same roof rack fell off at Fraser Island pop rivets aren't strong enough
Tyler has great content 👌 good stuff Ronnie. Thanks for the info
@@rastus555 the pop rivets are strong enough it’s the thin roof metal that isn’t strong enough I though?
He makes good clips.
@@beardedaussiehunter6135 YES, the system is only as strong as the weakest link - it's how the rivets are being used in this situation - saying the pop rivets are strong enough misses the point
Going to be a lot of Rhino Racks on Gumtree!
Why? It’s the roof rating that is the problem not the rack
@@kdunb I disagree. The problem is the formula you have to apply for off road driving stipulated by the rack manufacturer is the problem.
I think you would agree that Rhino Rack has good market saturation in the 4wd sector. There will a lot of people out there now aware that they are probably over loading their roof rack going off road. Some people will just deal with it, some people will remove their rack and sell it.
Ronny - you are among the rare influencers who keeps it real. One thing I don't understand about modern vehicles is that the roof ratings are so low and there are very few ways to safely add load bearing structures. Older vehicles with metal rain gutters, or roofs with traditional load capable bars used to be the safest way to add loads. But modern utes are not designed for this and while I agree that Rhino and other rack manufacturers need to be more upfront, the fact is that the vehicle manufactures need to do a better job of designing vehicles to do the things they know their owners will use them for. Note - the new Land Rover Defender is designed for a much heavier roof load and how ever much I don't like other things about that vehicle I think we (the overland community) must give LR props for that. Airbags though.., no.
Thanks for another GREAT video. Appreciate and trust all you do thank you!
Ronny, don't call this situation a debacle. I understand you feel bad, but don't. Thanks to your experience AND this video, you saved so many cars, money, and maybe lives. Respect.
Hey Ronny, only just getting into 4WDing and your channel has been my go to source for information. Props for owning up to the mistake, only further increases your credibility!! Thanks for the quality content
Your credibility was never in doubt mate! You made a mistake, owned up to it and educated your own and other viewers 🤙🏽 you’re a legend!!
Yeah I’ve had dealings with the state manager of rhino rack wa and I can say the man is nothing short of brilliant. He came out to fix a problem generated by a repair shop and he went above and beyond what he should have done. This isn’t a paid review but an honest feedback of this mans dedication to what he does. When I buy my next car he’s got my business
The true measure of a man is the acceptance of making a mistake, the means by which he goes about rectifying and fixing the issues caused by that mistake. It's a credit to you mate being able to admit you were wrong, most of us have too much pride to do such.
A big reason I sold my Jimny, is because I couldnt confidently tell people to do the same setup because I knew how dangerous it was... My Roofrack was more than capable of handling it, but the actual weight of the accessories on it was just too damn much! Now I get people asking for advice about Jimny's still and I have to explain to them not to follow in my tracks. We have a huge responsibility as content creators, I have learnt that through these lessons! xD
You have a strong canopy now. 👍👍
@@Malc664 For sure; I am MUCH more confident in my new setup, the vehicle feels so much safer.
@Shaun McCarthy I think if I proved anything in that time; its that the roof load capacity is high; but the vehicle stability was horrible.
@Shaun McCarthy Oh for sure; and having more mounting points to also distribute the load helps. Something I must say about my rack on the Hilux at the moment; is that Eezi awn actually install an aluminium gutter, which is glued and riveted onto the roof which 8 rivets; then the roof racks feet are mounted to that gutter. To me this allows the rack to use the entire gutter to distribute load; instead of just the rivets. It may not look as nice or slick as other racks, mounting solutions, but its solid.
Don't take it too seriously man, its not your fault if people choose to overload their roofs
We all stuff up, at home, at work or as content creators. Admitting it and apologizing for it is the hard part. ✊ You really set the standard for the rest of us creators when it comes to credibility, so you got nothing to worry about. 👍😊 Glad the roof rack is getting sorted. Stay safe. Simon 🇳🇴
First of all, RUclips ratings up or down, doesn't matter. As long that you are honest and truthful, you win on a long run. More donations/sponsorship from manufacturers, and more honest viewers. Ones that matter.
& you are a better person, because you admit your mistake publicly and are being totally honest with it.
Ronny you & Andrew are only ones that I wach reviews.
You did all the right stuff. Makes you alot credible of a resource person when it comes to overlanding equipment testing and usage. Accepting one's fault is a sign of true manliness.
Well done for taking the lesson and not letting your pride get in the way. Tons of respect.
Thanks for bringing this to everyone’s attention! Don’t know why so many brands of all 4x4 products do not display their weights or weight loadings, extremely frustrating as it’s such important information!
Pretty much exactly what my local roof rack dealer said. Reason why I didn't get a rack. Just glad he told me and didn't sell me something that would've been a waste of money. Great vid Ronny!
Ronnie, you’re still at the top my list for 4WD content! Own a Wrangler so the rack sits on the tub, but everything you share is appreciated!
Cheers from the USA
After watching i have checked my prado 2018 which has a pioneer rack and backbone and there is no doubt I have overloaded that thing. Thanks for the video. Keep it up
Big up to you Ronny, Tyler alone was making a great stand for more information after all his problems, but having yourself come on as well after the last video and with your backing it will go a long way! We are humans mate and you are still a legend! P.S love the Lux!
I discovered this issue when I had OEM roof bars fitted to my Colorado. The dealer and Holden made it clear 70kg only on the bars. The up side was I didn't need to spend big bucks on a super heavy duty rack. Bought a cheaper lighter weight one. And have limited my rack items to max tracks (2), shovel and fishing rods. Great vid, loving them and have learnt heaps from them.
Ronny you have a huge following amongst offroaders all the way in Pakistan as well, I've learned so much from your videos, thanks as always for the stellar content!
Good on you Ronny, old fashioned integrity is alive and well.
Great video....we all stuff up, but few admit it. RUclips celebs rarely admit it!!!!
Ronny is a rare guy in this respect. I think we all know the RUclips celebs who never admit their fails.
Well done Ronny, you have always had my upmost respect and this just goes to prove the zero BS given out from your channel.
Regards from a world overland traveller stuck in West Africa.
Thanks for the heads-up on the roof rack issue. Also respect your honesty and great effort to quickly rectify your error. Good to see people taking responsibility for their content like this.
I really appreciate the honesty here. And the fact that you gave the company a chance to respond to you and speak with you. That’s the way everyone should be.
Well swallowed mate, much respect. It takes a lot to eat the humble pie great video
Tyler Thompson covered this really well
it's a huge problem if 2 guys who do this for a living made the same mistake.
@@chrisjie2127 Two _young_ guys -- this is well known to us older bushies and off-road enthusiasts.
But then, it used to be mentioned in your owner's-manual (I can't say if they still do that, but they did up until at least the early '90s).
Did the manufacturer of the vehicle specify the on- and off-road load capacity? Or the rack manufacturers?
@@Loribyn I don't feel like age has anything to do with it. The math isn't hard; the problem is that we're learning we can't trust the numbers thrown at us at face value.
Ronny - how I read the RhinoRack instructions, the 1.5 safety factor is applied to the rack's load limit, not the car's roof max carrying capacity. You mentioned yourself that the car's roof limit is 75 kg on and off road. In your example the off road rating would be 32 kg (48/1.5) instead of 23 kg (75/1.5 - 27). It makes it slightly better.
Saved me a comment.
Agree...but still not much
Agree
Well said, honesty and humble best policy anda great thank you to Tyler Thompson for his findings and channel natural to the heart.
You would expect a rack to be manufactured to meet the maximum capacity of the vehicle it’s built for, on or off road. Thanks for being accountable and honest, appreciate your videos
Even if it did he would still be overloaded by toyotas max rating, the roof itself isnt strong enough for all the shit most people put up there these days
they are rated higher, its the vehicle capacity thats the issue, you need to understand static weight, dynamic rate and off road weight, they are all different
You can tell a lot about a person by how they act when things go wrong. 👍
I put exactly the same roof rack on my Ranger. I used the Stainless Steel rivets supplied. A friend happened to come around and he just removed his son in laws roof liner in his Ranger and installed bolts to hold the roof rack on because the rivets were loose and threatening to part company with the vehicle.Ronnie every one makes mistakes that's life keep up the good work you are doing.
This is why i've followed you for years Ronny. Not because you know everything. No one does. But because you're transparent and honest. You own up to mistakes made on your behalf and even others! Your content is pure and that's what people want. Because if it's pure, it brings us all closer together. And not divide us.
On roof racks......it's one thing i will NEVER fit on my vehicle. I drive a 79 dual cab like yours. Forget what brand it is. It's a piece of metal clamped or bolted to a sheetmetal roof of a moving vehicle. With things mounted to it. In my opinion all roof racks are dangerous, especially in an accident. I just don't see the sense in them. And as you stated, weight up high is a big no no especially when 4 wheel driving.
Good one Ronny. It takes a real man to admit he's stuffed up. Respect to you for the way you've dealt with this and kudos for telling us, to help others.
Huge respect to you mate for your transparency and honesty. Hope this channel never gets commercialised like the other big ones
Absolute respect mate where you’ve made a mistake you owned it. You can tell you’ve taken it hard by your expression
I purchased a rhino basket, read the fitting instructions and the load rating were stated very clearly. Helps to read the instructions.
Good on yay for having the integrity to correct yourself 👍
Well said mate, being transparent like that has got my respect , hopefully this will create more awareness around the issue all the best 👍🏻
Kudos, mate! You are an honest bloke. Don't be too hard on yourself. I ordered a Frontrunner Slimline II (toughest rack) when I ordered my Troopy in Germany. When I picked it up I realised that they have installed a Rhino Rack Pioneer. I somehow accepted it because they told me that there are no differences. On top I had a very long drive to pick up the car and I didn't want to return without it. I have an iKamper Skycamp on top and therefore already beyond the rack's limits. Couldn't find proper info on offroad load capacity when picked up the Land Cruiser. What is the sense in having rack on an offroader when overlanding is impossible. That's BS. By the way, I bought a Rhino Rack Batwing and it broke on the first trip. Poor quality. Ronny, thanks for your honesty and valuable info. Rhino Rack, step up your game!
Mate, we all make mistakes. You have admitted yours and helped us all out. I watched your original video, I have a 2020 Hilux and I am keen on a roof rack and hopefully I’ve learned from yours and Tyler’s video as well. Kudos to you and thanks.
Very informative Ronny, thanks Tyler for sharing your story!! Welcome back Michael from SEEK ADVENTURE! Another WA local RUclipsr inspiring us to get out there!
Is Seek Adventure back!?
@@scubareuben 1 video so far, sounds like he is keeping it casual. If he does post in the future????
Completely understand why he stopped but it killed me as I’d only just bought by first ever 4wd and discovered him literally a month before he said he was giving it away. Loved his presentation style and genuine approach. Fingers crossed hey.
Ronny this is an excellent and genuine way to respond to the last video and the issues arising from it. Thank you, this is why you get the support you do and why you are by far the best Aussie 4wd content creator. Your integrity has stood out in the past and this is another shining example of why we trust you.
You're only human like the rest of us. Everyone in the comments would have done the exact same mate. Keep up the good work
Mad respect for admitting your mistake and correctingand the very can't that your making this video shows your ethical and your credibility is in tact
I saw a link to you on John Cadogan's report about rhino racks. Thx for your important video
It’s a tough gig getting the right setup. I’ve got the same rack as the one in question here, pride myself on my research, but had no idea about this issue. Well done mate, appreciate your honesty and falling on the sword👍✊
I commend Ronnie on owning up to his mistake.
This is huge though. It almost tends to make roof racks obsolete. I can't imagine there are many vehicles that are able to take a sizable enough load to make a mounting a roof rack worth it but that are also trail friendly. In my mind I'll just throw gear in the back of my truck and not worry about it. I look forward to hearing more on Friday's video.
I'll definitely be looking at all the trucks driving around town with huge Pelican cases and Alumu-Boxes mounted up top differently now.
Hey Ronny, Tim Bates 4WD Adventures did a roof rack load rating video 2 weeks ago, pretty informative video that was too. By the way 'A bloke called Tyler Thompson, who I didn't know at the time'. WOW!! C'Mon mate, know other Australian 4WD channels, there are not that many but they all do good work, including yourself.
oh wow. I actually fixed seeing Tyler Thompson video and yours was the next suggested one. And I was going to write that you should see Tyler's video, but 1- didn't think you would actually read the comment. 2-I don't even have a 4wd... yet. For some reason, I already give you a lot of credibility, this video just increases it.
Well said Rhonny and I’m glad to see you own it. I, a disgruntled rhino rack owner, agree more disclosure is needed and I’m glad they are doing this moving forward. I found my offroad rating after ordering online and now have a rack that is...less than my original expectations, but it’s too late for me, I hope this helps many other realise the limitations of these products.
I’d also like to know what rhinorack does manufacture in Australia, as every single box of my setup (mounting feet and platform, not a backbone system) had “made in China” stamped on the side of every box.
I hope to one day buy a frontrunner or equivalent, but, that will take some saving as I am hesitant to put my rhino platform up for sale to someone else, after learning just how much it misses the mark.
My respect for you was very high, now after seeing this video I have even more respect. Thank you for what you do which is give factual off road advice. Take care.
Good lesson and video. Hopefully, people will learn that the basic road 4wd Ute or SUV is NOT a heavy-duty truck.
Good video Ronny, 👍🏻 Don’t be too hard on yourself, personally. You made a unfortunate purchase decision, like we all do sometimes. In your case it just has such a great impact because your reach is so big.
The way you dealt with the situation goes great lengths showing your character, honesty and ethics. 💪🏻💪🏻
Hey Ronny, wow, what a video. Big eye opener. This is exactly what is going on in Namibia, you get a lot of accessory sellers but none with product knowledge. That's why I rather watch your videos for info. Keep it up
TT really rock the boat in a good way. And Ronny, hats off to you for making this video response mate. You both potentially have saved so many lives! Respect!!!
well done Ronny. nothing wrong with being humble and admitting when a mistake is made. big respect for putting this up and making it right. it certainly saved me some time and money.
Waw! What An eye opener! Saves me from making the same mistake!
Appreciate tat, thanks for this clarification. This shows to me, that even a professional who surely has done a lot of research can be a victim of this marketing/hidden specification trap.
PS: In Germany the roof load limit of the Hilux is 50kg, looks like steel in Australia is much more robust. :)
Mate, this sort of honesty and no crap approach is why I've been watching and will be watching more of your vids. You got it wrong but owned it. Well said. Great vid.
Glad somebody is talking about it. I’ve gotten so much shit over the years for not wanting to off road with a bunch of stuff on the roof. People don’t believe me when I’m like it’s overloaded, these racks will shake themselves apart. I don’t mess with rooftop tents but those big things it’s like forget it.
Thank you for making this video Ronny you a really smart guy with good reputation good stuff for revealing this video
Been watching your chanel for a couple of years now and really enjoy it. I think the way you went about this vid is fantastic. Looking forward to watching more adventures. Have a good one mate.
It just amazes me that with the size of the 4x4 community in Australia and around the world it has taken how may decades to realize that a car roof has a weight limit not just the rack we put on it. How many thousands of videos on U-tube, not 1 mention of "ROOF" load limit. It seems that because of 1 persons misfortune, Tyler, that the world now knows what the roof rack makers have probably know all along. I would like to thank Tyler for his in-depth investigation into his misfortune that prompted his vid and all the other vids on the topic.
Not a person that usually comments on vids but cudos to you for admitting your mistake and taking ownership......whole lot more credibility coming your way
Class action time maybe?
I was told 100kg by installer, 23kg isn’t worth anything
Class action who? The manufacture has that info out there and they are not trying to hide it. So what go after 3rd party resellers who fudge some numbers by using ones that aren't specific to the Hilux while at the same time not actually saying its specific to the Hilux? Good luck. Also remember laws very country to country so depending where you buy from so consumer protection laws in that country may not have your back at all.
@@loganholmberg2295 the way I understood it was the rack it's self have a rating of 100 kg on road and minus 33 % off road bringing that to 66 kg . Then with the load limit of 75kg both on and off road for the car minus the weight of the rack. there is no difference . If they have based the off road load capacity based on the two thirds of the rate loading of the car as Ronnie is including in his calculations then that information is not out there and the previously published information was misleading
I was also told 100kg by an installation shop.
@@loganholmberg2295 I’ve got info from them saying that it is capable of 100kg
Check the law bud
@@loganholmberg2295 Really?
I have been looking for this info and it is very difficult to find.
Even after knowing about this, and being advised by my supplier that the off road limit is a reduction of 15%, I can't find the info. that Ronny has presented on here.
The only place that I can find mention of it is that they say it is in the fitment instructions.
Bit late by then isn't it?
Endless pictures of these racks loaded up with off road gear and plenty of chat about being an Australian Quality brand but I can't find this reduction number anywhere else.
Good on you Ronny for making this. In my work, complacency is what catches you out. Your reach will help people.
Unbelievable the low amount of subscribers to your youtube.
It's very fun and funny and sweet.
Plaza post more. And more Troopy gang
@@Berserkaru thanks mate! Our RUclips is just a little fun. I’m glad you enjoy it though
I have watched a number of your RUclips videos and found them very entertaining and informative . I think it takes great courage to say you were wrong and do what you think is in the best interest of your family , friends and audience. Good work Ronny.
we still here. one of best lessons on rig building . fundamentals. the best designers screw up the most, learn from it, and publish the outcomes. thank you Ronny for making this channel.