SINGING SUCCESS IS GARBAGE?! - Singing
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This sort of confirms to me that singing really just comes down to a few basic principles. Maybe something like 1) airflow 2) cord closure balanced with release. The rest is just working out the various shades and tones available throughout the range. This vid hit me at the right time because I have spent about 15 months developing good range and power and now I am working on smoothly connecting thru my passagios. I have been working on this very thing....balancing strong cord closure with the need to "let go" of some of that strong cord closure to allow more headvoice freedom etc as I go higher thru the range. (so as not to get "stuck" by gripping too hard etc) Peace, JonJon
nice one man, glad to help. It's quite simple really but the process and time to develop the skills is tough!
I've been training in Singing Success and Mastering Mix for 1.5 years now, and this really helped me to understand why! Plus your voice is very easy to listen to.
Some days that's true :D Yeah mastering mix and SS are good programs drill it remember it and let go!
This guy does know what he is talking about. He is the most trusted in my opinion and my opinion is a great one, especially when it comes to technique and singing. Beautifully explained and great passion he has!!!
thank you for the great feedback!
I'm currently working on singing success 360. It's been going good so far.
Wow. I’ll never see mastering mix the same... I get it now. Guys you don’t get it. I literally can connect my whole voice without trouble but can’t sing it but dude. That part where you were talking about closure throughout your whole voice, (when you spoke lower you had to sing quieter to keep the technical close) it hit me that I’m not that singing that way at all making me sound bad and loud. No quality. literally recorded myself singing with this technical closure and it made me sacrificed a lot of volume, but in return... my voice sounded fucking amazing. OMG! I just need help with that same marriage of release and compression when reaching a g#4 and above. But dude my vocal quality... I would honestly listen to myself all day. What a teacher
Nobody explainss this better then better then you...find release up high then slowly learn closure in the bridge .
I just found this after 45 years of singing for a living ... This works friends
Ken Tamplin is the guy who woke me up. Exposing all the non-singers "experts" who are just con artists. Brett Manning. Jaime Vendera. And a long list of others. I fell for their crap lessons. Then I tried Tamplins. I migrated from his lessons to a softer approach cause that's what I prefer. But looking back I realize most speech level singing gimmicks are what has ruined the industry. Everyone sings the same. I forget her name. But back in the 90s there was a female vocal coach peddling her techniques around Nashville. Telling everyone to emphasize consonants instead of vowels. And suddenly all female country singers sounded alike. Vowel modification is what helped distinguish so many singers back then. Today, there are two suckers born every second.
I agree, vocal coaching in general is a failed industry, I include myself in that statement. The reasons though are not the ones you've highlighted here.
Yes KT teaches what classical singers did. Vocal fold closure is a result of airflow and resonance thru correct vowel placement and modification. If you 'try' to close your chords mechanically (squeaky door) you WILL struggle. If you 'let' the chords stick together like static electricity (result of airflow) you will resonate .
Ken Tamplin helped me ruin my voice by pushing chest as high as possible. Got lots of bad habits from him.
IMO, this guy is the best voice coach online. Hands down. I have followed many over the years, but none of them have helped me forward like CJF has. He has a grip one it like none other.
I took just one live lesson with him and it helped immensely. I am still working on what I learned and plan to do another live lesson in the future. Thanks CJF.
Cheers dude, very kind of you.
I am an iron maiden tribute vocalist. Before I found SS I could sing 4 songs and my voice would be spent. After completing the coarse I easily can sing 2 nights without too much strain. It has its limitations tho and I have been devouring your videos for tips, some I have already applied and benefited from already.
Great job and keep them coming.
Vocal fold closure is a result of airflow and resonance thru correct vowel placement and modification. If you 'try' to close your chords mechanically (squeaky door) you WILL struggle. If you 'let' the chords stick together like static electricity (result of airflow) you will resonate and it will "feel" like you are adjusting chord connection manually but this is an illusion. You need the torque of the airflow to start the chord closure "engine." Only once the engine is going will the steering & acceleration actually 'do' anything. Get the air and throat going thru bel canto/open throat style vowels and your chords will come together themselves. Your proof of this will be the ease with which you switch in and out of head and chest voice. The singing voice is a fantastically masterfully designed instrument that operates in the vocal tract differently to the speaking voice. When the vocal tract is adjusted/orientated to sing correctly the voice operates quite differently to when you are speaking. It is irreducibly complex in that you cannot isolate the elements - they work together as a whole.
Hi Carl! Can you explain how to sing the trumpet head voice scale exercise? Plz I dont understand how to do that....
I like the way you explain the purpose of each vocal exercise. Thank you for that.
I know what you mean, he is great.
Just what I needed. Thank you.
Hi Carl, I have some questions, What is the difference between SS and SS360?
If I practice SS, what results can I obtain? I mean better tone quality, a balanced voice, higher range, mix voice, etc.
And finally, when doing singing success program, I guess it develops mix voice, (or not?), Then mastering mix, which is what exactly helps?
Do you recommend buying it?
Excellent channel, very good information! Congratulations!
I wish this was explained to me when I first started out, I would go home frustrated everyday from not being able to sing the songs I would like and not seeing any progress.
Excellent vid. You are like a professor when you are interpreting the Singing Success exercises. Great.
For me the exercises were problematic because they encouraged nasality and too much vocalis as opposed to crico-thryoid. By singing the "pure"/Italian vowels I was able to balance the two muscle groups to get the sound I wanted. For those who are seeking a "contemporary R&B" sound, for example, things might be different (but I believe that the "basics" should be established first, and then the person can go ahead and modify things for a genre).
nice one, whatever works for you is good, the nasality can be a stylistic choice or a technical limit and often it's very tricky to know or tell the difference. SS isn't the best tool to balance resonance I had to have a coach show me that.
I agree this method encourages un-stylistic nasality (not great) and here is why: Vocal fold closure is a result of airflow and resonance thru correct vowel placement and modification. If you 'try' to close your chords mechanically (squeaky door) you WILL struggle. If you 'let' the chords stick together like static electricity (result of airflow) you will resonate and it will "feel" like you are adjusting chord connection manually but this is an illusion. You need the torque of the airflow to start the chord closure "engine." Only once the engine is going will the steering & acceleration actually 'do' anything. Get the air and throat going thru bel canto/open throat style vowels and your chords will come together themselves. Your proof of this will be the ease with which you switch in and out of head and chest voice. The singing voice is a fantastically masterfully designed instrument that operates in the vocal tract differently to the speaking voice. When the vocal tract is adjusted/orientated to sing correctly the voice operates quite differently to when you are speaking. It is irreducibly complex in that you cannot isolate the elements - they work together as a whole.
Great Stuff. Clarity of many voice topics that really show that mastering your voice takes time. Thanks
Hey Carl, in this video ruclips.net/video/ikrkfL5w2n0/видео.html how is this this singer (tion phipps) singing with such a very light voice? It sounds really, really nice but the thing is, he's not using less compression at all, his voice is opened up but he still sounds very light/high pitch. Also, as he goes high his voice gets more lighter but with 95% singers, as they go higher, they're voice goes more darker. How does someone to sing ver light like this and sound GOOD like this singer is?
He has at least decent crico-thyroid development.
Hi Carl, great video, cheers for the info. I'm trying to get the singing success program myself & I was wondering how I can get hold of it without spending loads of money as I'm poor! Cheers, Lee.
Hey even I'm looking to get it
Have you purchased it? Here's 80% off on this link it's like a per month subscription goo.gl/KNU2TF
Im going back in to live singing after 3 years of not being on stage or even in practice what is the best way to get my voice back to what it was 3 years ago
Delicately! Just start singing a lot, doing scales, rehearsals etc.. Do you have a voice program to work with? I recommend SS360.
man ss360 is great...I've tried it...but my problem got solved by Aapproach programs
Thank you for this explanation. Greatly appreciated!
Carl, the nay nay nay exercise. How on earth do we actually do it? I really want SS to work for me, but I have real issues with nays.
find what works if you can't do an exercise drop it and come back to it a few months later, I had loads of problems with gug's buh's and nay's for a long time until they just clicked and I understood what was going on at a more fundamental level. At the most broad and basic level all exercises are actually the same it makes no difference if you're doing a bub or a nay, yet at face value and in detail they are all obviously different. Find an exercise you do well and see if you can transfer over to the nay or trick yourself into the nay gradually by doing half of the exercise you're good at and then the other half on a nay etc, there are many things you could try.
Thanks for the swift reply. I've just done folder one of the technique section. Today the nays were a little easier. I had to remind myself not to squeeze at the neck and focus on making the sound annoying. The sound feels as if its going in to the roof of my mouth almost in to my nose. This sensation started week, but is gaining strength. Is this the way a nay is supposed to feel?
Also, I've been doing stuff from eric arceneaux before. Since starting SS, I've stopped focusing on the breathe exercises, only sticking to what's in the program. I find my lip bubbles are getting less balanced and I'm starting to notice a little neck and shoulder tention. Is this normal in the beginning? Is this simply a sign that my technique is changing, or am I doing something incorrectly.
Thanks for your information man, you just knock out all the confusion about singing.
Might work better if you imagine it is spelt like "ney" rather than "nay".
Darion Jaikaran tomorrows video will cover nays 🤣
Great stuff Carl, I had my singing success copy and was able to follow along. Good job :)
nice one Peperu!
You are a great teacher. I was captivated by this video, well done.
Fantastic information. Keep it up, Carl!
cheers will do!
That is amazing explanation ... I have a problem maintaining the lip roll for more than like 2 seconds ... My lips just start to let more air through like if I was blowing a candle ... Can you maybe explain on how to do it right ? Also the Trumpet exercise ... I could never understand how to do ...
Ask yourself, what's under the lip bubble? Are the cords coming together and remaining in contact or are they apart? If your lip bubble is airy then it means that your cords aren't closing behind the lip roll, this is key to a well executed lip roll, hope this makes sense.
It’s okay to use your fingers to push your cheeks in!
very helpful! thanks carl!
Cheers Ivan!
lol you so clickbaity
looool but you make good points. I would say the student just has to be able to self-teach and evaluate if they're doing the exercises in a beneficial way to actually make significant progress. In many cases, the beginner's ear is not sensitive enough to hear exactly what is going on in an exercise and if they're doing it in a way that will grow their voice. Good teachers/coaches make a big difference in how long it takes to figure this stuff out. Def would plug lessons with any qualified coach here - Carl or Drew if you like SS-style but a bit better imo, Marnell, Phil, Ken, Kevin, whoever you think can help you the most. Get some lessons if you don't think you're improving, everyone! haha
great comments, you know I'm not 'qualified' right? No teacher is in the wild west of voice coaching :)
This is very useful thanks. It's interesting to get some more ideas on the principles behind SLS style exercises. Thinking in terms of levels of compression when doing exercises has been very helpful.
I'm curious as to why they sometimes recommend you go 'hooty' when you're going high with some exercises, maybe is it to help maintain closure on the difficult end of the scale? I wonder why that works.
the hoot in my mind is just another word for release / pressing in, it's just related directly to a quality in the sound. This idea just encourages you to release adequately as you ascend, a big problem singers have when they compress more and try and sing high is they lose the hoot / release.
Yeah I was doing all kinds of weird stuff trying to do a "hooty" sound, very confusing. I did SS, MM, and 1/2 of SS360 and still had issues trying to do the exercises in a way that "felt released" because I was just forcing with no understanding of the relationship of a balanced vowel and compression. Had to actually get a teacher and to straighten everything out.
This is great Carl!
cheers!