When you have some issues on Social Media; #Facebook: They restrict your account and inform you to remove it #Twitter: They restrict your account and ask to remove #Linkedin: you do not know why your account is blocked and no information, straight away they ask for Government ID.
Good info, but your Your videos make my brain hurts. Its as if someone gave a 9th grader some good information, and told them to come up with the narration and images and make a video. And slam it all together is what you do, Please go and watch a documentary documentary so you can get some ideas o how its done
I ignore the feed. Treat it as a tool rather than entertainment. To me the feed is just boring as hell and the posts are so fake that they just don't catch my attention.
There were some absolutely amazing ones in the UK. A guy called Mike Winnett is still out there somewhere. There was also "Tutti Recruitti" which got banned but was absolutely hilarious. And you can't consider yourself a proper LinkedIn user if you haven't blocked Oleg Vishnepolsky (now legally changing his name to Oliver Smith).
That is so true 😂 Sometimes, I am very close to write passive agressive statements on posts that look so fake on LinkedIn, but I don't want to draw attention 🤣
so smart thing to do!! I was that logical, anti-BS 'troll' (so to speak) and I was severely targeted, punished for that by the LinkedIn users and in my guess, by the potential employer/recruiters. So, I stopped caring, I stopped trying to correct statements, or say something logical to an illogical thread game, otherwise, it is consuming, they get brutal at you and it is awkward place to fight back or respond back since then you look like an aggressive fighter and you are not allowed to say the things you would say on youtube for example.. since employers watching. 😀
"You don't take your career seriously if you don't brag about meaningless tasks on social media" is a bizarre take and further proves HR is a cesspit that needs to go away.
Best way to beat the rat race? Middle finger. I repair headlights and taillights for cars (most replace LED's) and make 300-500/job. My expenses are 20 in LED's and i can do 10 in a week. Let the rats munch on drywall while i just live life.
P. S. Tried the rat race but employers live in fantasy land while other "candidates" are so stupid they shoot themselves in the foot for a hobby. Oh yea Tom nice 911 you just got. Oh you missed your kids birthday again? Oh that sucks 😂
even top corporate professionals i've spoken to say HR is a cesspool. It's actually kind of sad and amazing at the same time how many highly skilled corporate professionals actually understand how bad corporate culture is, but they're usually not the ones running things, which is even more bizarre. They're only valued for their skills, and real decision making is done by managers, admins and execs, often with zero skills. Socialism doesn't fix anything, as some people think. Those same corporate managers end up becoming bureaucrats and govt officers. it's a cult of mediocrity that will only go away with actual professionals start their own companies. As annoying as this whole entrepreneur thing is, it's the only solution to the fake and d3g3nrate sh1t that passes for corporate 'culture'. And we're actively seeing it fail and collapse in real time.
Being disqualified from employment for not having a specific social media presence should be both, worn as a badge of honor, and taken as a source of sheer relief for narrowly missing a bullet.
Making one commercial website a recruitment industry fetish definitely limits the recruitment options. Shall be one of many tools, as good as any. And due to diversity of huma choices it's safe to assume that just like with Facebook not everyone will be enthusiastic about it. Plus let's face it, plenty of busy professionals do not care about social media presence being busy with going about their work. Thinking that one website will be enough to reach out to such people is being overly naive.
@@agatastaniak7459 you would be amazed... And it's also naive to assume that the person that decides whether or not to hire you is professional. Also, I am speaking from personal experience here. I have been passed over many times for not have a social media presence that can be used against me. Every time I was grateful.
@@Dontstopbelievingman you are probably right about that. To a degree. Unfortunately, these days, it would seem that the employers want an employee less than the job seeker wants an employer. That being said there is cause for that relationship to be reversed. It may not be easy or comfortable. But it has been done in the past and I am sure that it will be required again in the future. Assuming something similar to the current model persists until then. Which itself is not guaranteed either... To be less abstract and to offer one possible alternative: one could practice self sufficiency to such a degree that employers are the ones that end up becoming obsolete vs the other way around.
@@ronmackinnon9374 The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive - one could convincingly argue that it's a global corporate circle jerk where psychopaths cosplay their jobsonas...
What is great on LinkedIn : For workers, being able to search/compare/apply for jobs in centralized place. For recruiters, being able the search/compare/contact potential employees. Everything else is just horrible. Cringe corporate bullshit, getting harassed by recruiters that only uses keywords, attention seekers, startup bros... Everything feels fake and weird, like a black mirror corporate dystopia.
I was able to get two of my last postpandemic jobs through this social media resume where there was absolutely zero result applying through the classic resume eating black holes like Indeed, Monster, etc. However, the cringy feed of LinkedIn is another story )
@@temich1985 you sound like you are saying. GOD exist, because you prayed to get a pair of Nikes for Christmas and you got 2 at a time of an inflation.
I know! I’m a millennial and I HATE it! I HATE social media! RUclips is the only one I use. I want to delete my LinkedIn profile and delete the link from my resume! Should I? Is it career suicide?
@@RikaMakara I cannot advise it on that. I deleted my LinkedIn profile because I got a permanent job. I never got anything from LinkedIn, but as far as I have heard the answer to your question depends on what industry / field you are in. Apparently, for IT and banking it is a given that you have a LinkedIn account.
I think LinkedIn’s success came from the fact that everyone felt obligated to be on the platform. One of my past managers said that LinkedIn is a terrible game, but it’s the game everyone is playing.
I’m not on LinkedIn but as someone who wants to be involved in tech/data soon… I feel almost like it’s a must in order to land any type of job, it’s something I’ll have to do 🤢
@@whateverkimberlyhen i was in my first year of university my professor recommended everyone use linkedin. So all of us made an account and worked on it, i made one as well but didn’t really give a shit about it. When my final year came around everyone was landing internships and i was wondering what i was doing wrong. So i asked around and turns out most people got their opportunities via their linkedin. People are posting cringe as shit like “i’m so happy i get to work for insert soulless company”, connecting with random people and playing up diversity and races so they look good to recruiters. So i started doing it as well and i started getting more opportunities too. It’s such a shame that you’re not judged by who you are but judged by who you pretend to be or how much you can look like a monolith for the corporate. Worst part is that pretending to be someone else extends outside of just interviews or meeting actual people and becomes part of your daily life since anyone can see your profile at anytime.
@@luxinvictus9018 Or you may apply for public service and military. Wages are not that high but you can still live and even enjoy some social advantages...and stay carefully away from Linkedin most of your life ! Of course, public service and military cannot welcome everyone (even though they are looking after applicants)
I was damn near forced to make a LinkedIn page and I made one but never keep it updated. It still has my position from when I joined 10+ years ago. I recently deactivated after I saw someone searched my profile when I was applying for a new job (I hadn’t given them my LinkedIn information but I guess they looked me up anyway).
@@monicarenee7949 this. I didn't have one forever due to the nature of my previous work which replied on upmost discretion, until recently. It's really creepy. If you're not on there and someone has a similar name then they'll just assume that's you.
You don't have to use the social media features. And your profile is just your resume which you want to be public so recruiters can find you. If you think your resume is super-ultra-private information, think again, because I've been called by companies whom I never applied to, but have my resume. It circulates whether you like it or not and you should treat it as a public document. Don't put your credit number on it or something and you'll be fine.
With the multiple layoffs and shitty job market. There’s been more pressure to be active on LinkedIn and post stuff that add “value”. A lot of people on Linkdin have been pushing this “add value” thing. Yh you may not have to use it but if you need a damn job and you’ve been laid off for months. Would you not do anything to get one?
Ive been in the workforce for 27 years. I didn’t know about Linkedln until 2 months ago. When I started digging into it and following people It gave me the impression that the platform attracts a lot of narcissistic/attention seeking individuals.
I think you might be right. A person told me Linkedin was his favorite platform because he was quote, "popular on there," and had a lot of followers and a lot of people liking and responding to his posts. It made me sad to hear this.
Those are everywhere. I deleted all social media, except linkedin because I need market exposure. However, it is by far the least toxic. The stupid stuff can be juat ignored. The rest or social media actually causes brain shrinkage.
That's why I used to resist putting my profile there or on any other social platform. Resist for years but at some point, you have to sign in. Bottom line I would never run profile to the corpo cringe areas.
05:36 "Company pages don't have any information that you really want to know about a potential employer. Salary information is often not shared. Job expectations are kept as vague as any other site. Linkedin is giving companies all of your information for nothing in return!" -- FACTS!
In countries like Austria they have to share this information directly. Otherwise they get a fee. Therefore a small tip look up the postion in Austria and you get a good guess how much you should really earn (theoretical)
It's not for nothing in return... the easier it is for a company to get your details, the easier it is for you to get hired/head hunted by these companies...
@@KaesOner ah yes the more i tell the STASI, the less likely it is that my family will get a visit from them companies already have a major power advantage... giving them a massive information advantage on top of that is not helping... all it does is depress wages and worsen work conditions and labour protections
I quit LinkedIn after the huge data breach over a decade ago where it was found they didn't even encrypt our passwords or data. Never going back. Employers refusing to hire people w/o a LinkedIn profile should be illegal.
I truly hate the concept of LinkedIn. I was taught not to have social media because jobs and colleges look at that stuff. Now i have to have a career dedicated social media just to apply for a job. I truly hate it here
For me LinkedIn is a way to have a full CV unconstrained by a page limit. If a company thinks I’m not present enough on LinkedIn, I can promise you I’d hate working for that company.
Gladly in Germany still the personal application counts more and LinkedIn is just the platform for networking. Sounds horrible if companies value LinkedIn Profiles, activity and full CVs, able to criticize you
This , exactly this. It's a very convenient online resume nothing else. I'm damn careful what I l"like" or upvote and what I say on that website, and see far too many people who do not.
@@MiaMizuno As an Australian who has worked in Germany for two years between 2015 and 2017, I am acutely aware of just how fucking backward Germany is with your corporate world. I have NEVER come across a place so full of lazy and uninspired recruiters in my life. NOWHERE outside of Germany have I ever experienced being called 8 months after applying for a job to be asked "Oh hey, are you still interested in ze job, ja?" Germany can suck a fucking donkey cock. It is honestly full of the slowest and most inefficient workforce I have EVER encountered... I was so fucking glad to move to Singapore...
LinkedIn has helped me land some amazing opportunities. But I totally agree that it's a giant corporate circle-jerk and I hate interacting with the content. Everyone acts as if they're a marketing/sales/engineering/recruiting guru and (so obviously) try to outbeat each other's corporate status
Right. I was unhappy in my previous job and found my current job on LinkedIn. It was a 50% salary increase and a big leap within my industry. But I'll avoid it like the plague until I think about another change.
Ye found it funny, when owners of big companies just have CEO of (said company) Like I know one of the biggest food company in my country that he inherited the company, he doesn't have anything on his linkedin just CEO of the company 😂 and you go to watch his employees food engineers,chemical engineers having a wild large linkedin page and how much they love the company and blah bla blah man not even the owner love their inherited company that much stfu lol
The first few years of LinkedIn most people used it as a digital rolodex and only got on for job hunting and new connections. I definitely noticed a shift during the pandemic when the virtue signaling and humble bragging became out of control.
The effect of social media as a whole; pretty much became the Facebook of the corporate world. Not useful for the average Joe that doesn't feel like posting about how their English breakfast increased their lead production by 10% Lol
Omg Yes! I used to work in the mining industry, now all I see is ex colleagues liking all the Green washing articles in the feed. Dumps trucks use enormous amounts of fuel and processing needs vast quantities of electricity 24 per day. They're just shifting all the processing pollution to China now. (I'm an Aussie)
You know, whenever I start to regret my decision to leave corporate due to the hardships of freelancing and entrepreneurship, a video like this comes along and reminds me that I made the right decision.
Kind of a funny story. I used to do focus groups to make side money. One of the focus groups I did we were only told it was for a job website- nothing else. The leader of the group got us all talking about which sites we like and which sites we dislike. The group consensus was that indeed was our favorite and we hated LinkedIn. We ripped LinkedIn apart. At the end the leader went behind the 2 way mirror and came back and told us that this focus group was about LinkedIn and they want to know why we like indeed over it. We all were dying inside that it was actually linked in people watching us trash their website. 😂 It was one of the better paying focus groups too- I think we got like $400 for that one.
So now they’re going to try to adopt indeed’s user interface or some other popular job board for the job search aspect like they did facebooks for the career seekers and employers imaging projections.
Glassdoor is the reality check for every rosy employer, but unfortunately employees are still subject to almost being harrased to write positive reviews of their company on glassdoor, the only good thing is that you can go back to being honest after you left the company if you ever remember that you can now fix this mistake
Yess. One of the startups that I worked with had a really toxic MD. He would ask everyone to put positive reviews on Glassdoor or get your salary deducted. He will stand behind every one and see as they typed. He will also bombard every negative reviews with 5-7 positive reviews. Also he got so many negative reviews removed.
I am hoping that as we (as a society) become more aware of the circle jerk that Linkedin is, that hiring managers and recruiters don’t take it as seriously as they are now.
that won't happen unless people stop appreciating and actively participating in such behaviour. if you wanted it to, it could end tomorrow, but unfortunately, the reality is that too many people are in the game.
@@HornetLarry i think there's quite a few people that do not engage in such behaviour (myself included). But I agree that there are an overwhelming amount of people that are "playing the game"
@@HornetLarry It got me my last 2 jobs but I do hate it. I went to MIT so I have a lot of classmates on it. You wouldn't believe the circle jerk on there. Classmates posting about how they made Forbes 30 under 30. How they just raised a 10 million dollar fund. I can't stand it. I don't ever really get on it though unless I'm searching for a new job.
LinkedIn is the only social media where I felt bad after scrolling through my feed. I felt bad, because I'm not as ambitious, and career driven as every poster I was reading.
Like all social media, everyone just lies. The objective is to optimize the fantasy you want to portray yourself as while minimizing the chance of getting discovered you're a degenerate. Everyone on earth accumulates baggage and eccentricities as they age because this planet fluxes between paradise and a hellscape for all of us. I knew a guy who worked JP Morgan Chase in their derivatives department before moving to my company at the time who said he left because he was tired of lying about sports teams like the Yankees and instead just wanted to talk to people about how he would go on vacations in a van to deep wilderness spots, never shower, build random hiking trails and smoke weed with the locals while wearing rags.
I am very grateful for Linkedin. But for me personally, the "My feed" feature does not exist, using it strictly for networking and job offers. It is quite sad that they are pushing Linkedin to become another Facebook.
Imagine the face of a recruiter when I told him that he wouldn't find me on FB, IG, or LinkedIn. Obviously I didn't get the job but the reaction was worth it tbh
you are not alone almost 7 years not on Instagram not on fb, i do have a linked in but just barely minimal information, don't even have listed all jobs i did, now a days corporate is forcing linkedin when they ask source or few employers directly ask to add linkedin url
i am not on there either and i did get the exact same reaction you did when i said i am not on either of the 4 main SM platforms . and it frustrates me because i could tell they found it entirely bizarre.
For me, Linkedin is arguably the most depressing social network. I don't care about people posting traveling photos or buying whatever stuff they want to brag, but constantly seeing other people move in their career while I'm stuck in the same position for years makes me feel awfully lagging behind. It's the only social media where I delete the notification emails about some updates or job opportunities **immediately** after reading. It's a necessary evil for me to maintain a proper profile there.
I deleted most of my familly members on Linkedin after I realized all they did all day was shitposting. Like one didn't read the service manual and bragged about how much intelligent he was, his friends thought he was too. Now I'm ashamed of sharing the same familly name. The rest, none update anything, they just like posts posted by their employers.
Agree 100 percent. I have had the same feeling looking at LinkedIn, but have to remember that a lot of it is the careful projection of what those people want you to see, and therefore to think about them professionally. The most successful people I know aren't on there or other social media, they don't have the time, they're doing things that actually make them money.
A lot of those job hoppers take it on the chin eventually, though. Eventually, the last in first out layoff methodology of companies will leave these people with a nice, fat, employment gap
@hornetguy9063 - Last in first out isn’g a thing anymore, you are just sad and bitter people are progressing in their career while you sit in a dark room hating and hoping their ‘time of reckoning’ comes because the world can’t be this unjust to you… Maybe stop hating on people for wanting to progress and make money, live your life and let them live theirs
@@jimbojimbo6873 "progressing" in their career by not working and just changing jobs? american economy is on brink and can go down anyday then all this linkedin clownery wont help. so dont waste ur time here and waste it on linkedin, make the hay as long it as the clown show lasts
God I hate everything corporate. Oops, did I just expose myself as "unprofessional and not serious about my career?" Actually, I never used LinkedIn because I never felt comfortable posting so much of my personal info online where ANYBODY (not just employers) can comb through it.
I’m self-employed web developer. One day I posted a recent project I worked on on LinkedIn. My thought was that I should post something so folks knew I was still alive. A day later a recruiter called me asking if I was in the job market. He kept asking me what I did. I kept telling him I was freelancer… moron had no idea what that is. So I put it bluntly: I am a contract worker. Then after pretending to still care about this clown, he went on his pitch and asked for my CV… I ended up not even bothering. The guy obviously didn’t look into me, look at my freelance website, or even bother to see if I was a good fit for his client. I kept asking repeatedly “What exactly do you need?” It’s something I ask everyone to see if my expertise is something they need. Or, if we aren’t a good match. Bozo was just interested is completing a fucking checklist with no regard to if his client and I were a good fit. I just stopped posting on LinkedIn after that. I don’t even get clients on there. It’s just a clown show.
No disrespect but it seems like you just spoke to some like 18yo kid who just got his first recruitment job (or any job for that matter) and got offended that he was incompetent in like his first month of work or so (I mean, it would be genuinely IMPOSSIBLE for any recruiter to not know what freelance is if they've been working the job longer than few days/weeks). Just keep that in mind if you ever do something new and a client rages on you because you don't know some technical term or whatever 😅
@A W Bruh... If a multimillion dollar company is putting their recruitment in the hands of an 18 year old kid who doesnt even know what the f@ck a freelancer is, then both the company and the recruiter deserve to be clowned on. If youre an adult and talk like an NPC, you 100% deserve to be criticized for it.
The number of times I've gotten, "I see you're an expert in JavaScript! Great news, I have a Java job available that I'd love you to interview for..." It kills me every time.
You met the typical "Tech recruiter". They have no clue about software development, just a bunch of "technical terms" and they go around and find candidates for it. They get a small bonus if they are hired, if they dont find matches and hirees, they are let go. Sometimes you have to do their job for then and literaly explain what you do and how you fit in the "ecosystem". You should have asked for the "job description" or "job duties". Otherwise its a waste of time
8:08 - "People are spending more of their money and unpaid hours to collect certifications like they are Pokemon gym badges" (I love this quote, so precise :D)
Yes! Work asked for my socials, and couldn't believe I don't have FB -- nothing but LinkedIn which I happily gave them, and Twitter which I did not because I'm not dumb enough to be on social media posting my real thoughts about anything under my real name!
As a software developer from eastern Europe I see things very differently than described in the video. I have never posted anything in linkedin and I don't really read anything there either, as it's usually just a random bubble with no content. There are sometimes exceptions. I just filled in my profile, added my friends and acquaintances as contacts and I get 1 - 5 recruiters a month asking me if I'd like to come and work for them. The time I switched jobs I just logged into linkedin and looked at the menu. Got a new and a better job. The way I see it everything is working in my favor.
This was my experience as well as an IT professional in Latin America. I think emerging markets like ours work with a different logic than the US where people need to be more "influencers" if they want to get ahead in a shrinking job market. I have gotten so many offers through LinkedIn and all I do is heart my contact's posts and update my resume. But the US is a different beast.
I think what the video explained is the reality in the US. I'm from Venezuela, people often post about looking for a job, articles of interest and ocasionally achievements of their own. It's not even half as toxic as in USA. It's kind of boring, but I have found very useful content there.
My impression is that the US has a really toxic culture that is extremely hostile towards employees. I think the way LinkedIn is used in the US is just another facet of that exploitative culture.
Left my job about a month ago. Been looking for my next job. Couldn’t explain why every time I got in Linkedin i would get frustrated. This right here explains it.
LinkedIn can be great for a career! I recieved an email that my position as a 'Glass Collector in a Pub' made me the perfect fit for 'Headteacher of a Private Secondary School' - who would have thought? :D
I'm not paying for premium services, so I'm sure I'm missing a lot of chances to make it easier to find work on there, but honestly--there has to be a way to narrow down the recruiter pitches to places within 100 miles or something. I put some job interests up recently and I keep seeing offers for jobs a thousand miles away. I live in Texas--why are you showing me museum jobs in Pennsylvania, dammit? Something in the same bloody state would at least be a good start.
At some point, people ask themselves, "is what I'm getting Worth the sacrifice?" When your less knowledgeable, your going to focus more on the promised upsides, and be less aware of the current downsides. It's why companies create these one-way gates in the first place (like student loans), to ensure that people not only are trapped once they go through the process, but to make the process itself seem like more than it is, creating curiosity and interest. As a cult survivor, I see many of the same designs in cults and even parallels to other addictive things. You just can't get enough of something that almost works.
I basically just use LinkedIn as my online CV. It's a fairly convenient place to input my employment information whenever I feel like it requires updating. All the social media aspects can be easily ignored, but I very occasionally do like posts made by my employer, since it makes me look good.
That's it! The same way I use it - to fit something more than I could on my resume. No corporate shitposts, no excessive humble bragging, no other kinds of that bs.
I am currently looking for a job and I have to really persuade myself to even look at LinkedIn. It makes me throw up even looking at it. Especially since most of the people glorifying it are the HRs who give themselves a clap for how great they are.
It's funny, even when we understand we're being manipulated, people still play along. Employers have all the leverage. This can't realistically change in the current working culture of giving so much of yourself to your employer. We need better boundaries.
@@garrettrinquest1605 Don't. Use it for sleuthing around instead. It can be good for finding job history of certain individuals, whether it's weeding out sketchy charities or doxxing. I have an account under the name Johnson McLong for this exact purpose.
The lack of employment gives employers all the leverage. And you may think that there are jobs galore, but who can live on what they earn working for a Pret, for example? Sharing a flat with 10 strangers in a house with faulty heating is the reality of low-paying jobs in a big city like London. The power is all in hands of the company. That's why then happens what usually happens: from young people being completely burnt-out to bullying to harassment, and employees are afraid to quit.
Haha, well said. I agree - sometimes the more I know how the world works the harder it is to be optimistic. "Knowledge is a burden--once taken up, it can never be discarded.".
Honorable mention: the amount of applicants you can see when you apply for a job, is beyond discouraging. This is coming from someone who is currently job hunting. Seeing 300+ people applied for a job and the fact that they don’t close it or have a cut off after a certain amount knowing you may be a drop in a bucket, is infuriating. I hate the platform at this point. I don’t even use it to look for jobs anymore.
one of the many tips and tricks we were given back in my college days was "make sure to post, share, or like posts on LinkedIn. it shows recruiters that you are engaged and improves your chance of being seen". One of our communication classes also had a topic on LinkedIn and how to prepare one as students." I know they mean well in trying to get their students to understand the realities of how we are being recruited. It's just kinda sad.
I don't have a LinkedIn and I never will, I can send you my CV in a PDF format if you really wanna know what I am up to. Those companies that say an applicant is an red flag for not having a LinkedIn, are just stupid because they will miss a lot of great talent. Most of the time those companies itself are huge red flags, because most of the time they exploit the rules and the people working there and for any employers here that use LinkedIn as their primary method of hiring, go sit in a corner and think what you have done wrong.
See, you are looking at it wrong. Its alright for the company to miss a great talent. Because what they want is not the most qualified professional, but someone who is willing to put up with all the crap this crappy company will pour on them, and keep on working. A great talent will just say "screw it" and find a better job. A mediocre person with corporate worship branded on their brain will not.
Honestly, I'd just have one that's isolated from me (fake name, fake age, image generated by "this person does not exist") for the purposes of snooping on others' history. You'd be surprised about people's job histories, and Linkedin account-gates these days.
I worked in a company that let employees go if they were on LinkedIn. This was many years ago of course, but it pretty much left a message, hey, I am available for work :lol:
@@thebandwagoneffect is he like those redditors who just wine all the time about having to work for a living (this channel is full of those believe me it’s really bad here)
@@luisfilipe2023 Similar sounding, but way more reasonable than the Redditors you and I are probably thinking of. He calls out companies and individuals for crappy business practices and advocates for employees to think of their work as a transaction rather than a relationship, similar to what this channel talks about.
My first linkedin page from 10 years ago said; I get stuff done. Hire me if you know what's good for you. With a picture of me sitting idly on a beach waiting for the surf to come in. My current linkedin page says; I got stuff done. It's too late you should have hired me sooner. With a picture of me sitting idly on a beach drinking a pina colada and waiting for the surf to come in.
A big problem with LinkedIn is the "Easy Apply" button: if one can apply to a job at the click of a button, then one can apply to dozens or hundreds of jobs per day, any position with even vaguely matching skills gets an application because the cost of sending it is so low. But this means every position gets dozens or hundreds of applications per day, far too many for HR to manually screen, so they use overly-rigid AI filters to do the initial screening. But this means any given application is less likely to be seen by a person, especially if it's missing the latest corporate buzzword, so each job seeker must put out more applications, and so on in a feedback loop. In principle LinkedIn could be a massive boon for people in general, but at the moment it is not acting like one.
I got sucked into the LinkedIn bs and even signed up for a course/community for LI "brand building" Within the first 2 weeks I was like holy shit this platform is a bigger joke than I even thought ... they said "unique insights and interesting content isnt a sustainable strategy, so to build your brand what you need to do is write one good post, then rewrite it and say the same thing 10 different ways. Write 10 unique posts and then after your rewrites, you've got 100 posts!" As an analytical person, the thought of wasting my time and everyone else's with 10x recycled posts was beyond gross. Also, they recommended taking OTHER people's posts and rewriting THEM 10 times. WHAT!? They ALSO recommended non-professional content because it makes you appear "human" and showing your "human side" is a good thing. (i.e. take a picture on your weekend or vacation or w/e and talk about some story from your time off and how time off is important for career longevity or some shit)
Well, you can just chatgpt it. Nobody is gonna really read it anyway. It's a waste of time, but at least you can make it a waste of very little time. But ya, don't do it. Let's stop feeding it.
I think there're two types of users on LinkedIn, those that put up a profile and maybe use it to search for jobs or post job openings, and almost never engage with any of the social networking features (other than maybe congratulating the odd colleague), and, well, those that do. And the former half sees the latter half as, quite frankly, mostly a bunch of corporate culture obsessed weirdos.
Agree I'm an Engineer and had an excellent LinkedIn profile. Then after the 3rd or 4th major data breach I though about how many times I had gotten a job or I had a successful referral from that website. Answer was only 1. I came to the conclusion LinkedIn wasn't worth the security risk nor my time.
I’ve never met or heard of anyone who’s gotten a job via Linked In. Any time I’ve spoken to anyone about it, the general response has been “what a bunch of scammers” 😂
Lol my past 3 jobs were found via LinkedIn. 2 via recruiters and 1 via a job listing. A major factor though is the country (US for me) and the industry.
I don't even get interviews from jobs I apply to on LinkedIn. Nothing It's just been like living in a desolate black hole for ten years . LinkedIn probably isn't good for regular working class positions, maybe it's useful for high ranking corporate executives or for finding investors for your start up??
Really good explanation of the conflict of interest. Everything is exactly as you said. I will say that for ambitious people, this is just like looking at a gym full of buff dudes and thinking "i will get there if i just keep showing up and stick to my growth routine".
Never used Linkedin to find a job. Don't listen to what people say about needing to have a profile set up... My previous employers strongly encouraged me to sign up and build a profile even though it wasn't something I was comfortable with. The alternative ways to find a job still exist and are just as popular as ever. The only time I've used Linkedin services is when my employers had Linkedin Learning licences, which is actually a decent platform considering the amount of educational content on there.
It's not necessary but it certainly helps your odds. Recruiters spend a shit load of time on LinkedIn, one of the first things they look at in a candidate before an interview is your LinkedIn so if you don't have one then your at a severe disadvantage.
Nah. Linked in connects you to recruiters directly. If you're doing it the old fashioned way, you're counting on an algorithm to not filter out your resume
@@TehFlush i don't necessarily believe that. If a recruiter is so busy that they're paying for an advanced algorithm to filter out cv's, then I can also imagine them being too busy to look through and engage in every single message they receive on linkedin to figure out who to invite to an interview.
There are, but it's so much easier to have them all in one place. Instead of spending your time on half a dozen sites you can spend most of your time on one.
This! Get on a basic IT and business course, too. Learn to keep financial records, how to create estimates, quotes, invoices and how to present these professionally. That and being able to own and manage your own business, while you ply your chosen trade will help ensure your independence and job security.
@@Sid-69 I hear you, friend. I may not have access to student loans on account of being an immigrant, but I understand the struggle of having to scrape to pay those tuition fees.
✨ government work✨prestige, benefits, steady secure career and paycheck, and a well-earned pension at the finish line. Never once regretted skipping corporate America entirely after grad school
I just got a permanent job at the government and I cannot express how free and reliefed I feel watching this. I'm not 100% free from the rat race but man the private sector has become an insane death cult.
@@bdp295Imagine celebrating working to make rich business owners such as Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates etc richer while you still struggle to pay for monthly bills 😂 At least as a govt employee you already got your health insurance and pensions covered. At private sectors, you can get fired anytime and there will be nothing you can do about that unless you're willing to spend money and hire a lawyer who has expertise in labor law *(then again, many corporate slaves are struggling to pay monthly bills, so you should throw the lawyer option out of the window)*
@@Rrw2ko have you ever considered being useful? Because if you aren’t intelligent or strategic enough to own a business, the next best thing you can do is be useful to those who do. The average person is an entirely forgettable, useless moron. If you can’t make yourself stand out, you are - by definition - average or below average. Don’t be that. Advice from a business owner.
I was aggressively told to make a linkedin account, add everyone I can, and it will help me in job search, back when I was 19 in like 2012. Then 10 years later the story was the exact same. It never did absolutely anything for me and none of the jobs I did ever even as far as mention linkedin
Funny enough, I found my 3rd career changing job on LinkedIn. After finding first 2 in indeed. Also found jobs for my friends through LinkedIn recruiters contacting me and I’d point them to my friends with skillset that match. I have never posted and could careless about the corporate nonsense and virtual signaling I see going on there. We joined at the same time and age. I say all that to say, it has its benefits
I just very recently caved in and started to spruce up my LinkedIn (I already had one but hadn't check it in years). I have to say that from my experience so far, this video hits the nail on the head
I find the culture of LinkedIn to pro corporate and less individualism. I hate having to use it but I'm currently a tech worker and it seems like a lot of tech companies use it more than any other. I know not all but I only hop on when I'm maybe looking for a job or seeing what is out there.
LinkedIn really is weird... But until I have more work experience... I kinda have to keep that profile, but boy oh boy will I delete it right after becoming senior. But I thank the gods that I'm from Eastern Europe and corporate culture is less cancer here.
Same, 23yo here from a shithole country (im from South America). I just started in the corporate world, looking to do the same as you, become a senior and get off!
I would say LinkedIn is useful in moderation. I am a technical IT guy. I always keep my profile up to date - all certificates listed, job descriptions mentioning all the activities and technologies used etc. My last 3 job changes were due to recruiters simply sending me a message with an offer that was just too good to refuse. ...why not use such an opportunity? This keeps me informed on the market conditions and what skills are currently required. However, I end up muting most of the recruiters that I connected with, due to them posting the crap described in the video.
This is what happens when there is no competitor in any space/platform. You end up in a monopoly, they can and will do things as it's benefits the most for them and not for you!
I'm a Software Dev that hasn't had a Linkedin for the majority of my multi-decade career. There are more jobs than developers, even after the SV crunch. The qualification over having social media or not is arbitrary and saves me the effort.
Ur so cool man, that's crazy, multi-decade career, you know that you can't compare yourself to other people that don't have that many years of experience. I think you meant there are a lot more jobs that have over-inflated requirements than there are people that can meet them?
I use it for 3 reasons. 1. Networking, I can casually chat with someone who is in the field/firm I am in or am interested in, 10-30 minute chat over the phone during lunch or on the commute home. Especially if we have something in common. Alumni, sports, same major, etc. 2. Keeping up to date with former colleagues, similar to how facebook is filled with weddings/babies/ birthdays it’s refreshing to see people you know advance in their career. 3. Recruiting, have had very good success and because the recruiters are so competitive I can understand my market rate and what are the requirements to advance in career.
I had it for a while, then got rid of it, then made a very bare-bones profile with the basics. I'd shut it down because that's how a few folks were cyberstalking me and I freaked out. So instead of trying to push myself out there to employers by saying way too much, I put the profile up mostly because if you don't have a social media account, people think you're completely inept or have something to hide. I got rid of FB and never did Ze Bird site (I'm on the fediverse instead for those things), so LinkedIn is basically how someone can look me up and verify that I exist and my job application wasn't created by some bot.
@@ludwigvonsowell5347 actually mostly out of curiosity. :-) Once in while it is something else. Still good points of yours where the portal adds value to employees.
I hate linkedin so much. I cant stand these people that all write that same post "im hapy to announce..." or the people that just got laid off writing how they are so thankful. cringe.
The real issue with it is the reality that it legally gives companies information about you , true and not true that is then used to justify even giving you an interview at all. It should be illegal to do this , as it actually means no matter who you are in reality, or how good you are at something, they can immediately discriminate against you for any reason they choose. And since you are never in an actual interview process, they have zero issues legally. I had several friends and colleagues in various companies who all confirmed that it’s exactly what they do. And thats really the reason there is a huge problem with professionalism and knowledge in most us companies.
Linked In makes me sick and I hate how companies want you to add your LinkedIn url to applications sometimes 😩 I felt pressured to create one and I hate it!
I think if I saw one of those statements that praise the employer that just laid them off, I would count that against an employee. I would want employees who speak their mind and honestly try to do what they perceive as best, even if it means pissing a few people off, as long as they aren't needlessly abrasive and rude.
I had Linkedin when it first came out, I never updated my profile, refused to network, and I refused to be a corporate toad or lemming. I retired after a bit more than a decade on Silicon Valley while in my 40s making (inflation adjusted) well over $300k a year. My secret? I earned money the old-fashioned way. Not by sucking up to an employer but by working hard, staring my own business, taking risk, expanding my boundaries. And I inherited a ton of money from a rich, childless relative. Good luck to you reader.
It made my career if anything, my last two jobs came from linkedin messages from recruiters, with substantial pay increases each. I didn’t even have to post cringe either, in fact I don’t ever post anything or apply to jobs. Probably an outlier experience, but linkedin definitely worked for me.
This is it's core purpose, it is a near perfect practical application for social media. TV is often full of sh*t, it does't mean people shouldn't have a TV. Unless you are Amish. You are in control of how much information you include, many people just include enough keywords to show up in searches by recruiters.
They want you to bend over and like it. The best way to fight it is to be as independent as you possibly can. Try to figure out how to start a business. I did it and will admit it was tough. But stay encouraged. It can definitely be done.
I thought it was always weird that a number of recruiters or HR people were pseudo celebrities with millions of followers saying overly positive crap and then funneling you in to messaging them to advanced your career. Cult circlejerk that I really don’t need anymore now that I have a decent job with a great company.
I found it interesting that there's a symbiotic relationship between recruiters and LinkedIn. I toyed with the idea of a jobs website pre-2000. I thought recruiters would not be happy with a jobs website. The jobs website being the competition.
This is a great POV,. While LinkedIn helped me land a client and build connections, I didn't think of the effects of displaying my Personal info and work history. Now it makes me want to tread more carefully
I had LinkedIn when i first started working because everyone else had it. I deleted it when I realized how creepy it was to have all that information out in public. I've always had my social media private even though I barely use social media so the thought of all that information out there just so i could connect with people i already knew was not i wanted. I didn't realize then all the information i was feeding people data brokers then.
I had to do the same--was looking for work and had the hardest time, so I put damn near everything up there to show my interests and qualifications. Led to me realizing I was being cyberstalked by a couple people and I shut it down. I just have one now so employers can find I'm a living breathing human being and my job application wasn't created by some bot to waste their time. I put basic work history and a few interests for a job search and that's it. I don't have FB anymore, so it's really the only way folks can find I exist online.
@@RKG5A5 until they do some update and it kicks all your privacy settings off and makes you public by default, then you find out a few days later & have to rush in and re-set them all again. That was the last straw between me and FB. Haven't had LinkedIn back long enough to see if that's a concern yet, but gonna check it out. If it's so private employers can't see anything, then no point even having it.
@@tallyp.7643Sounds a lot like me. I hate the thought of being forced to put all of that private information online. I don’t want anyone knowing where I work!
I wish there was a merge of LinkedIn and something like Glassdoor. Because you’re right in that the information goes only one way. That being said, there are some changes with salary transparency but that’s more to do with laws than anything LinkedIn has done
As i recently found out, it's harmful for the company security as a probing vector. You'd assume someone in a high profile position would think twice whether to disclose sensitive financial information, but you'd be wrong. If you're an IT professional consider telling the CFO/CEO and upper management to disable their profiles while they're employed.
Great video! After two months of unemployment, and paying for Premium, I am so aggravated at how worthless LinkedIn really is. I can write most of the positions that I apply for and yet I get nothing. What I get is continual bombardment from corporate kiss ass posts and recruiters that never return messages. I am actively looking for any alternative that is out there. Two months is too long for me. I get the market is nuts but there are far too many jobs out there. I miss the days when you had to walk into a company and literally ask to speak with HR and hand your resume over. Yes, I am "old" but I'd rather venture down that type of path than this online only crap. Anyone have any other employment sites that work? Not Zip Recruiter or Indeed either.
LinkedIn allows grown adults to regress to their teenage high school selves, complete with popularity contests, clubs, and popular kid asskissing. It’s a powerful platform for networking but their social media is a toxic environment.
LinkedIn has downside, but overall it had a positive impact on my life.I’ve had recruiters reach out to me and showed me jobs that I wouldn’t of thought of or found on my own. I am 3 years out of college and I wouldn’t be where I am without LinkedIn. It’s a necessity evil in my eyes.
Same for me, I just posted a similar comment to yours. The company I’m working for right now contacted me through messages and never actually posted the job anywhere, so without Linkedin I would never have even known there was a position I could’ve filled.
Regardless of it’s supposed purpose it’s still a social media platform. It’s still going to be a well curated persona that doesn’t reflect who’s really behind the account. You might be the one looking for a job but the vetting process goes both ways. What the platform does is allow you the potential employer to judge you without you getting to do the same to them.
Find out how many times your information has been leaked on the dark web by trying my sponsor Aura for 14 days completely free: Aura.com/HowMoneyWorks
When you have some issues on Social Media;
#Facebook: They restrict your account and inform you to remove it
#Twitter: They restrict your account and ask to remove
#Linkedin: you do not know why your account is blocked and no information, straight away they ask for Government ID.
Low IQ video
*videos
TLDR: LinkedIn is professional TikTok.
Good info, but your Your videos make my brain hurts. Its as if someone gave a 9th grader some good information, and told them to come up with the narration and images and make a video. And slam it all together is what you do,
Please go and watch a documentary documentary so you can get some ideas o how its done
The virtue signaling on LinkedIn is nauseating
It's awful
I ignore the feed. Treat it as a tool rather than entertainment. To me the feed is just boring as hell and the posts are so fake that they just don't catch my attention.
@@joaquin67 Imagine a dating site like that. Could be a good idea. :lol:
Facts my guy
Thank you for speaking in vague buzzwords and not just saying what bothers you
LinkedIn the only social media platform that would be improved by having more trolls.
DOD Fire doesn’t use linked in for hiring. Maybe I can get on there and troll some companies, namely Walmart. FUCK WALMART!!🍆😂😂😂😂
There were some absolutely amazing ones in the UK.
A guy called Mike Winnett is still out there somewhere. There was also "Tutti Recruitti" which got banned but was absolutely hilarious.
And you can't consider yourself a proper LinkedIn user if you haven't blocked Oleg Vishnepolsky (now legally changing his name to Oliver Smith).
That is so true 😂 Sometimes, I am very close to write passive agressive statements on posts that look so fake on LinkedIn, but I don't want to draw attention 🤣
We need a cringe button on LinkedIn
so smart thing to do!! I was that logical, anti-BS 'troll' (so to speak) and I was severely targeted, punished for that by the LinkedIn users and in my guess, by the potential employer/recruiters. So, I stopped caring, I stopped trying to correct statements, or say something logical to an illogical thread game, otherwise, it is consuming, they get brutal at you and it is awkward place to fight back or respond back since then you look like an aggressive fighter and you are not allowed to say the things you would say on youtube for example.. since employers watching. 😀
"You don't take your career seriously if you don't brag about meaningless tasks on social media" is a bizarre take and further proves HR is a cesspit that needs to go away.
HR is your friend. Unions only charge you money.
286 likes and no comment? I gotchu.
Best way to beat the rat race? Middle finger. I repair headlights and taillights for cars (most replace LED's) and make 300-500/job. My expenses are 20 in LED's and i can do 10 in a week. Let the rats munch on drywall while i just live life.
P. S. Tried the rat race but employers live in fantasy land while other "candidates" are so stupid they shoot themselves in the foot for a hobby. Oh yea Tom nice 911 you just got. Oh you missed your kids birthday again? Oh that sucks 😂
even top corporate professionals i've spoken to say HR is a cesspool.
It's actually kind of sad and amazing at the same time how many highly skilled corporate professionals actually understand how bad corporate culture is, but they're usually not the ones running things, which is even more bizarre. They're only valued for their skills, and real decision making is done by managers, admins and execs, often with zero skills.
Socialism doesn't fix anything, as some people think. Those same corporate managers end up becoming bureaucrats and govt officers. it's a cult of mediocrity that will only go away with actual professionals start their own companies. As annoying as this whole entrepreneur thing is, it's the only solution to the fake and d3g3nrate sh1t that passes for corporate 'culture'. And we're actively seeing it fail and collapse in real time.
Being disqualified from employment for not having a specific social media presence should be both, worn as a badge of honor, and taken as a source of sheer relief for narrowly missing a bullet.
Agreed, but these days, every job/company is a bullet, and you don't eat unless you pick the one that creates the least destructive wound.
Making one commercial website a recruitment industry fetish definitely limits the recruitment options. Shall be one of many tools, as good as any. And due to diversity of huma choices it's safe to assume that just like with Facebook not everyone will be enthusiastic about it. Plus let's face it, plenty of busy professionals do not care about social media presence being busy with going about their work. Thinking that one website will be enough to reach out to such people is being overly naive.
@@agatastaniak7459 you would be amazed... And it's also naive to assume that the person that decides whether or not to hire you is professional. Also, I am speaking from personal experience here. I have been passed over many times for not have a social media presence that can be used against me. Every time I was grateful.
@@Dontstopbelievingman you are probably right about that. To a degree. Unfortunately, these days, it would seem that the employers want an employee less than the job seeker wants an employer. That being said there is cause for that relationship to be reversed. It may not be easy or comfortable. But it has been done in the past and I am sure that it will be required again in the future. Assuming something similar to the current model persists until then. Which itself is not guaranteed either... To be less abstract and to offer one possible alternative: one could practice self sufficiency to such a degree that employers are the ones that end up becoming obsolete vs the other way around.
Exactly. People like me won't survive that kind of ass kissing environment anyways 😂
I once saw LinkedIn described as a site where "psychopaths cosplay their Jobsonas" - and that pretty much sums it up perfectly.
Hahah perfect!!
@@Christoff070 Not mine, sadly. A fellow kiwi put it up on Reddit and I thought "oh, that's perfect!" and promptly stole it. 😆
@@wolf1066 lmao
I don't know, I thought this video's description of it as a 'giant corporate circle jerk' was pretty spot on as well.
@@ronmackinnon9374 The two aren't necessarily mutually exclusive - one could convincingly argue that it's a global corporate circle jerk where psychopaths cosplay their jobsonas...
What is great on LinkedIn : For workers, being able to search/compare/apply for jobs in centralized place. For recruiters, being able the search/compare/contact potential employees. Everything else is just horrible. Cringe corporate bullshit, getting harassed by recruiters that only uses keywords, attention seekers, startup bros... Everything feels fake and weird, like a black mirror corporate dystopia.
you nailed it with "black mirror dystopia"
corporate culture is cringe groupthink dystopia
Compare jobs it' quite difficult if the salary range is most of the times 30.000 -75.000 €
I hate it honestly. The world networking sounds so cringe and fake like everyone's only trying to be friendly to get ahead. Toxic asf.
@@lorenzoculasso431is €30k minimum wage and €75k a top salary?
I’ve been saying this for years. Social media-ifying resumes and careers is so dystopian, harmful and stupid
I was able to get two of my last postpandemic jobs through this social media resume where there was absolutely zero result applying through the classic resume eating black holes like Indeed, Monster, etc.
However, the cringy feed of LinkedIn is another story )
@@temich1985 you sound like you are saying. GOD exist, because you prayed to get a pair of Nikes for Christmas and you got 2 at a time of an inflation.
But in a market without any decent jobs or expectation of future living wages, social media star becomes THE JOB.
I know! I’m a millennial and I HATE it! I HATE social media! RUclips is the only one I use. I want to delete my LinkedIn profile and delete the link from my resume! Should I? Is it career suicide?
@@RikaMakara I cannot advise it on that. I deleted my LinkedIn profile because I got a permanent job. I never got anything from LinkedIn, but as far as I have heard the answer to your question depends on what industry / field you are in. Apparently, for IT and banking it is a given that you have a LinkedIn account.
I think LinkedIn’s success came from the fact that everyone felt obligated to be on the platform. One of my past managers said that LinkedIn is a terrible game, but it’s the game everyone is playing.
I’m not on LinkedIn but as someone who wants to be involved in tech/data soon… I feel almost like it’s a must in order to land any type of job, it’s something I’ll have to do 🤢
@@whateverkimberlyhen i was in my first year of university my professor recommended everyone use linkedin. So all of us made an account and worked on it, i made one as well but didn’t really give a shit about it. When my final year came around everyone was landing internships and i was wondering what i was doing wrong. So i asked around and turns out most people got their opportunities via their linkedin.
People are posting cringe as shit like “i’m so happy i get to work for insert soulless company”, connecting with random people and playing up diversity and races so they look good to recruiters. So i started doing it as well and i started getting more opportunities too.
It’s such a shame that you’re not judged by who you are but judged by who you pretend to be or how much you can look like a monolith for the corporate. Worst part is that pretending to be someone else extends outside of just interviews or meeting actual people and becomes part of your daily life since anyone can see your profile at anytime.
@@luxinvictus9018 Or you may apply for public service and military.
Wages are not that high but you can still live and even enjoy some social advantages...and stay carefully away from Linkedin most of your life !
Of course, public service and military cannot welcome everyone (even though they are looking after applicants)
I was damn near forced to make a LinkedIn page and I made one but never keep it updated. It still has my position from when I joined 10+ years ago. I recently deactivated after I saw someone searched my profile when I was applying for a new job (I hadn’t given them my LinkedIn information but I guess they looked me up anyway).
@@monicarenee7949 this. I didn't have one forever due to the nature of my previous work which replied on upmost discretion, until recently. It's really creepy. If you're not on there and someone has a similar name then they'll just assume that's you.
I just wish LinkedIn was a really good job board, and NOT a social media. Having a forced public social media profile is frustrating
exactly they are forcing social media linkedin profile on people
You don't have to use the social media features. And your profile is just your resume which you want to be public so recruiters can find you. If you think your resume is super-ultra-private information, think again, because I've been called by companies whom I never applied to, but have my resume. It circulates whether you like it or not and you should treat it as a public document. Don't put your credit number on it or something and you'll be fine.
people on the internet are wild
just because something exists doesnt mean you have to use it 🤦
With the multiple layoffs and shitty job market. There’s been more pressure to be active on LinkedIn and post stuff that add “value”. A lot of people on Linkdin have been pushing this “add value” thing. Yh you may not have to use it but if you need a damn job and you’ve been laid off for months. Would you not do anything to get one?
It has become a corporate facebook ..
Ive been in the workforce for 27 years. I didn’t know about Linkedln until 2 months ago. When I started digging into it and following people It gave me the impression that the platform attracts a lot of narcissistic/attention seeking individuals.
I think you might be right. A person told me Linkedin was his favorite platform because he was quote, "popular on there," and had a lot of followers and a lot of people liking and responding to his posts. It made me sad to hear this.
It doesn't attract them. It just incentivizes people to be their most arrogant, narcissistic, ass-kissing, weak constitution version of themselves.
Those are everywhere. I deleted all social media, except linkedin because I need market exposure. However, it is by far the least toxic. The stupid stuff can be juat ignored. The rest or social media actually causes brain shrinkage.
Like all social media, but this time that is merged with sick work related ambitions and willingness to torpedo others while you smile at them.
@@cd0u50c9 Exactly.
It really is ingenious how many ways corporations can make you tighten the shackles yourself.
It’s monetary Stockholm syndrome, they are the pimps and we are the bitches of their profiteering ventures.
That's why I used to resist putting my profile there or on any other social platform. Resist for years but at some point, you have to sign in.
Bottom line I would never run profile to the corpo cringe areas.
ingenious & insidious
victimhood mentality
@@just_another_bot0110 reading won't help you shake your victimhood mentality.
I’ve been having to explain to people my whole career why I will never sign up for LinkedIn, thanks for giving me some extra ammo to fight the cause
That picture of Clarence Boddicker as your icon is bomb by the way. A badass like that shouldn't need linked in!
@@Merle1987 hahaha thanks, him and Dick Jones are independently two of the all time greatest movie villains for me
What do you tell them?
@sergio Go away, bot
we don't have to explain ourselves anymore. i know it feels like they're cornering you. LinkedIn isn't food and water.
05:36 "Company pages don't have any information that you really want to know about a potential employer. Salary information is often not shared. Job expectations are kept as vague as any other site. Linkedin is giving companies all of your information for nothing in return!" -- FACTS!
In countries like Austria they have to share this information directly. Otherwise they get a fee.
Therefore a small tip look up the postion in Austria and you get a good guess how much you should really earn (theoretical)
@@MyAnimeTL in my EU country all ranges are shown on linkedin postings and by recruiters for specific position. -- FACTS!
@@MyAnimeTL Austria is EU too lol
It's not for nothing in return... the easier it is for a company to get your details, the easier it is for you to get hired/head hunted by these companies...
@@KaesOner ah yes the more i tell the STASI, the less likely it is that my family will get a visit from them
companies already have a major power advantage... giving them a massive information advantage on top of that is not helping... all it does is depress wages and worsen work conditions and labour protections
I quit LinkedIn after the huge data breach over a decade ago where it was found they didn't even encrypt our passwords or data. Never going back.
Employers refusing to hire people w/o a LinkedIn profile should be illegal.
Agreed, but good luck proving that was the reason they didn't hire someone. There's so many other excuses for them to hide behind.
I truly hate the concept of LinkedIn. I was taught not to have social media because jobs and colleges look at that stuff. Now i have to have a career dedicated social media just to apply for a job. I truly hate it here
Same. I stayed away from social media to have a healthy headspace but when i entered college that's what people have started to cater towards
This video overstates the problem IMO. I got my current job without it, and I know HR people who don't use it.
For me LinkedIn is a way to have a full CV unconstrained by a page limit.
If a company thinks I’m not present enough on LinkedIn, I can promise you I’d hate working for that company.
Yeah, we only need that function instead of my feed etc,…
Yes this! 🔥
Gladly in Germany still the personal application counts more and LinkedIn is just the platform for networking.
Sounds horrible if companies value LinkedIn Profiles, activity and full CVs, able to criticize you
This , exactly this. It's a very convenient online resume nothing else.
I'm damn careful what I l"like" or upvote and what I say on that website, and see far too many people who do not.
@@MiaMizuno As an Australian who has worked in Germany for two years between 2015 and 2017, I am acutely aware of just how fucking backward Germany is with your corporate world. I have NEVER come across a place so full of lazy and uninspired recruiters in my life. NOWHERE outside of Germany have I ever experienced being called 8 months after applying for a job to be asked "Oh hey, are you still interested in ze job, ja?" Germany can suck a fucking donkey cock. It is honestly full of the slowest and most inefficient workforce I have EVER encountered... I was so fucking glad to move to Singapore...
LinkedIn has helped me land some amazing opportunities. But I totally agree that it's a giant corporate circle-jerk and I hate interacting with the content. Everyone acts as if they're a marketing/sales/engineering/recruiting guru and (so obviously) try to outbeat each other's corporate status
Right. I was unhappy in my previous job and found my current job on LinkedIn. It was a 50% salary increase and a big leap within my industry. But I'll avoid it like the plague until I think about another change.
Ye found it funny, when owners of big companies just have
CEO of (said company)
Like I know one of the biggest food company in my country that he inherited the company, he doesn't have anything on his linkedin just CEO of the company 😂 and you go to watch his employees food engineers,chemical engineers having a wild large linkedin page and how much they love the company and blah bla blah man not even the owner love their inherited company that much stfu lol
Yeah it's disingenuous. I ignore most of it and leave sarcastic comments.
I have an account and let the recruiters come to me. I don't interact except to PM a few people I personally know. I do think most of it is cringe.
All those words when you only needed 2. Rat race.
The first few years of LinkedIn most people used it as a digital rolodex and only got on for job hunting and new connections. I definitely noticed a shift during the pandemic when the virtue signaling and humble bragging became out of control.
The effect of social media as a whole; pretty much became the Facebook of the corporate world. Not useful for the average Joe that doesn't feel like posting about how their English breakfast increased their lead production by 10% Lol
Yep I still use LinkedIn just a job hunting tool. Never post
I left LinkedIn as a job hunting tool, when did it get out of that hole and where's me shotgun
Omg Yes! I used to work in the mining industry, now all I see is ex colleagues liking all the Green washing articles in the feed. Dumps trucks use enormous amounts of fuel and processing needs vast quantities of electricity 24 per day. They're just shifting all the processing pollution to China now. (I'm an Aussie)
@@AJ-kv1po I always thought politically driven posts on LinkedIn were weird. Like, what point are trying to prove to "potential employers" lol
You know, whenever I start to regret my decision to leave corporate due to the hardships of freelancing and entrepreneurship, a video like this comes along and reminds me that I made the right decision.
yeah good point. Sad that it has to be hardship no matter what the choice though. There has to be a better way.
Same here bro
To advertise your company and humiliate yourself after being made redundant is one of the saddest most cowardly things to do.
Kind of a funny story. I used to do focus groups to make side money. One of the focus groups I did we were only told it was for a job website- nothing else. The leader of the group got us all talking about which sites we like and which sites we dislike. The group consensus was that indeed was our favorite and we hated LinkedIn. We ripped LinkedIn apart. At the end the leader went behind the 2 way mirror and came back and told us that this focus group was about LinkedIn and they want to know why we like indeed over it. We all were dying inside that it was actually linked in people watching us trash their website. 😂 It was one of the better paying focus groups too- I think we got like $400 for that one.
Lolz. So you guys were like the Uno Reverse Card of focus groups😂😂
I'd pay to hear what they said to each other behind that mirror🤣
Where do you sign up to take focus groups like that?
So now they’re going to try to adopt indeed’s user interface or some other popular job board for the job search aspect like they did facebooks for the career seekers and employers imaging projections.
@@Sid-69Lots of tears were shed!😅
That’s so awesome. 😂😂😂 I’m glad you were paid well because clearly the feedback wasn’t taken seriously. LinkedIn is still garbage.
It's really sad to see people/ex-employees being grateful for being fired without a notice or prior intimation.
I'm grateful my kids won't have food on the table and will go to a worst school, while my debts pile up 🙏
Learned a new word today, intimation. Thanks for sharing!
Failed society
It’s called corporate simping
@@se2664also boot licking
Glassdoor is the reality check for every rosy employer, but unfortunately employees are still subject to almost being harrased to write positive reviews of their company on glassdoor, the only good thing is that you can go back to being honest after you left the company if you ever remember that you can now fix this mistake
I've had negative reviews removed from Glassdoor though. 😐
Yess. One of the startups that I worked with had a really toxic MD. He would ask everyone to put positive reviews on Glassdoor or get your salary deducted. He will stand behind every one and see as they typed. He will also bombard every negative reviews with 5-7 positive reviews. Also he got so many negative reviews removed.
@@courtneyshannon2621 Me too! Glassdoor is a farce and I tell people take what you read on there with a grain of salt.
@sagargupta-ln6hq unfortunately in such cases and much to my surprise, need to be taken to social media
@sagargupta-ln6hq I'm working on non profit platform to negate the power of such toxic people
I hate social media in general so having to have a linkedin is a pain for me.
I am hoping that as we (as a society) become more aware of the circle jerk that Linkedin is, that hiring managers and recruiters don’t take it as seriously as they are now.
that won't happen unless people stop appreciating and actively participating in such behaviour. if you wanted it to, it could end tomorrow, but unfortunately, the reality is that too many people are in the game.
@@HornetLarry i think there's quite a few people that do not engage in such behaviour (myself included). But I agree that there are an overwhelming amount of people that are "playing the game"
@@HornetLarry It got me my last 2 jobs but I do hate it. I went to MIT so I have a lot of classmates on it. You wouldn't believe the circle jerk on there. Classmates posting about how they made Forbes 30 under 30. How they just raised a 10 million dollar fund. I can't stand it. I don't ever really get on it though unless I'm searching for a new job.
LinkedIn is the only social media where I felt bad after scrolling through my feed. I felt bad, because I'm not as ambitious, and career driven as every poster I was reading.
Like all social media, everyone just lies. The objective is to optimize the fantasy you want to portray yourself as while minimizing the chance of getting discovered you're a degenerate. Everyone on earth accumulates baggage and eccentricities as they age because this planet fluxes between paradise and a hellscape for all of us.
I knew a guy who worked JP Morgan Chase in their derivatives department before moving to my company at the time who said he left because he was tired of lying about sports teams like the Yankees and instead just wanted to talk to people about how he would go on vacations in a van to deep wilderness spots, never shower, build random hiking trails and smoke weed with the locals while wearing rags.
Haha! Same.
Same. During my last job search, I deleted my profile. I hated out it made me feel. I successfully landed a job without it shortly after.
@@beedee8238 i deleted linkedin your words give me hope
I feel bad because the people i see post on there are so often just completely pathetic
I am very grateful for Linkedin. But for me personally, the "My feed" feature does not exist, using it strictly for networking and job offers. It is quite sad that they are pushing Linkedin to become another Facebook.
Need to have an option to disable feeds section
uBlock the button
Ditto! Can be useful if used correctly but just not the same for people that don't want to be a part of the Facebook style of LinkedIn.
What's a "My Feed"? ;)
Makes more sense than Venmo's attempt to be a social media app.
Imagine the face of a recruiter when I told him that he wouldn't find me on FB, IG, or LinkedIn. Obviously I didn't get the job but the reaction was worth it tbh
you are not alone almost 7 years not on Instagram not on fb, i do have a linked in but just barely minimal information, don't even have listed all jobs i did, now a days corporate is forcing linkedin when they ask source or few employers directly ask to add linkedin url
i am not on there either and i did get the exact same reaction you did when i said i am not on either of the 4 main SM platforms . and it frustrates me because i could tell they found it entirely bizarre.
*surprised Pikachu face* 😨
For me, Linkedin is arguably the most depressing social network. I don't care about people posting traveling photos or buying whatever stuff they want to brag, but constantly seeing other people move in their career while I'm stuck in the same position for years makes me feel awfully lagging behind. It's the only social media where I delete the notification emails about some updates or job opportunities **immediately** after reading. It's a necessary evil for me to maintain a proper profile there.
I deleted most of my familly members on Linkedin after I realized all they did all day was shitposting.
Like one didn't read the service manual and bragged about how much intelligent he was, his friends thought he was too.
Now I'm ashamed of sharing the same familly name.
The rest, none update anything, they just like posts posted by their employers.
Agree 100 percent. I have had the same feeling looking at LinkedIn, but have to remember that a lot of it is the careful projection of what those people want you to see, and therefore to think about them professionally. The most successful people I know aren't on there or other social media, they don't have the time, they're doing things that actually make them money.
A lot of those job hoppers take it on the chin eventually, though. Eventually, the last in first out layoff methodology of companies will leave these people with a nice, fat, employment gap
@hornetguy9063 - Last in first out isn’g a thing anymore, you are just sad and bitter people are progressing in their career while you sit in a dark room hating and hoping their ‘time of reckoning’ comes because the world can’t be this unjust to you…
Maybe stop hating on people for wanting to progress and make money, live your life and let them live theirs
@@jimbojimbo6873 "progressing" in their career by not working and just changing jobs? american economy is on brink and can go down anyday then all this linkedin clownery wont help.
so dont waste ur time here and waste it on linkedin, make the hay as long it as the clown show lasts
God I hate everything corporate. Oops, did I just expose myself as "unprofessional and not serious about my career?" Actually, I never used LinkedIn because I never felt comfortable posting so much of my personal info online where ANYBODY (not just employers) can comb through it.
Do you hate paychecks as well?
I’m self-employed web developer. One day I posted a recent project I worked on on LinkedIn. My thought was that I should post something so folks knew I was still alive. A day later a recruiter called me asking if I was in the job market. He kept asking me what I did. I kept telling him I was freelancer… moron had no idea what that is. So I put it bluntly: I am a contract worker. Then after pretending to still care about this clown, he went on his pitch and asked for my CV… I ended up not even bothering. The guy obviously didn’t look into me, look at my freelance website, or even bother to see if I was a good fit for his client. I kept asking repeatedly “What exactly do you need?” It’s something I ask everyone to see if my expertise is something they need. Or, if we aren’t a good match. Bozo was just interested is completing a fucking checklist with no regard to if his client and I were a good fit.
I just stopped posting on LinkedIn after that. I don’t even get clients on there. It’s just a clown show.
No disrespect but it seems like you just spoke to some like 18yo kid who just got his first recruitment job (or any job for that matter) and got offended that he was incompetent in like his first month of work or so (I mean, it would be genuinely IMPOSSIBLE for any recruiter to not know what freelance is if they've been working the job longer than few days/weeks).
Just keep that in mind if you ever do something new and a client rages on you because you don't know some technical term or whatever 😅
@A W Bruh... If a multimillion dollar company is putting their recruitment in the hands of an 18 year old kid who doesnt even know what the f@ck a freelancer is, then both the company and the recruiter deserve to be clowned on. If youre an adult and talk like an NPC, you 100% deserve to be criticized for it.
You sound negative and entitled. Good luck with that $40K per year midwest web dev job.
The number of times I've gotten, "I see you're an expert in JavaScript! Great news, I have a Java job available that I'd love you to interview for..."
It kills me every time.
You met the typical "Tech recruiter".
They have no clue about software development, just a bunch of "technical terms" and they go around and find candidates for it.
They get a small bonus if they are hired, if they dont find matches and hirees, they are let go.
Sometimes you have to do their job for then and literaly explain what you do and how you fit in the "ecosystem".
You should have asked for the "job description" or "job duties".
Otherwise its a waste of time
8:08 - "People are spending more of their money and unpaid hours to collect certifications like they are Pokemon gym badges"
(I love this quote, so precise :D)
From my experience, I hate the “impressions” and “hidden companies” and - *I AM NOT GONNA PAY FOR PREMIUM, STOP ASKING ME.*
The reason I have LinkedIn is so that work colleagues don't ask me for my actual socials
Brilliant
Yes! Work asked for my socials, and couldn't believe I don't have FB -- nothing but LinkedIn which I happily gave them, and Twitter which I did not because I'm not dumb enough to be on social media posting my real thoughts about anything under my real name!
Tbh, this
Smart
I'm convinced 90% of the roles I've applied for in the past were thrown directly into the trash because I don't have a linkedin.
I apply to half my jobs on linkedin and only heard back from one in over a year, so i don’t think you are missing anything
As a software developer from eastern Europe I see things very differently than described in the video. I have never posted anything in linkedin and I don't really read anything there either, as it's usually just a random bubble with no content. There are sometimes exceptions. I just filled in my profile, added my friends and acquaintances as contacts and I get 1 - 5 recruiters a month asking me if I'd like to come and work for them. The time I switched jobs I just logged into linkedin and looked at the menu. Got a new and a better job. The way I see it everything is working in my favor.
This was my experience as well as an IT professional in Latin America. I think emerging markets like ours work with a different logic than the US where people need to be more "influencers" if they want to get ahead in a shrinking job market.
I have gotten so many offers through LinkedIn and all I do is heart my contact's posts and update my resume. But the US is a different beast.
I’m from Portugal, the USA people (some from Uk,Canadá,Austrália) seems too obsessed with everything, maybe is just on the internet idk
I think what the video explained is the reality in the US. I'm from Venezuela, people often post about looking for a job, articles of interest and ocasionally achievements of their own. It's not even half as toxic as in USA. It's kind of boring, but I have found very useful content there.
LinkedIn PR team is getting clever 😂
My impression is that the US has a really toxic culture that is extremely hostile towards employees. I think the way LinkedIn is used in the US is just another facet of that exploitative culture.
Left my job about a month ago. Been looking for my next job. Couldn’t explain why every time I got in Linkedin i would get frustrated. This right here explains it.
LinkedIn can be great for a career! I recieved an email that my position as a 'Glass Collector in a Pub' made me the perfect fit for 'Headteacher of a Private Secondary School' - who would have thought? :D
🤣 you might as well, you only live once
remembering my school days, you"d most likely have quite a few colleagues just as interested in collecting glasses
I'm not paying for premium services, so I'm sure I'm missing a lot of chances to make it easier to find work on there, but honestly--there has to be a way to narrow down the recruiter pitches to places within 100 miles or something. I put some job interests up recently and I keep seeing offers for jobs a thousand miles away. I live in Texas--why are you showing me museum jobs in Pennsylvania, dammit? Something in the same bloody state would at least be a good start.
@@tallyp.7643 - I got several job offers from other CONTINENTS. I'm not a migratory bird😂😂😂
Glass Collector in a Pub, I’ve got that degree from Oxford
At some point, people ask themselves, "is what I'm getting Worth the sacrifice?" When your less knowledgeable, your going to focus more on the promised upsides, and be less aware of the current downsides. It's why companies create these one-way gates in the first place (like student loans), to ensure that people not only are trapped once they go through the process, but to make the process itself seem like more than it is, creating curiosity and interest.
As a cult survivor, I see many of the same designs in cults and even parallels to other addictive things. You just can't get enough of something that almost works.
Valuable insight!
I basically just use LinkedIn as my online CV. It's a fairly convenient place to input my employment information whenever I feel like it requires updating. All the social media aspects can be easily ignored, but I very occasionally do like posts made by my employer, since it makes me look good.
That's it! The same way I use it - to fit something more than I could on my resume. No corporate shitposts, no excessive humble bragging, no other kinds of that bs.
My man is playing the game and I’m not mad’atcha
I am currently looking for a job and I have to really persuade myself to even look at LinkedIn. It makes me throw up even looking at it. Especially since most of the people glorifying it are the HRs who give themselves a clap for how great they are.
It's funny, even when we understand we're being manipulated, people still play along. Employers have all the leverage. This can't realistically change in the current working culture of giving so much of yourself to your employer. We need better boundaries.
Yeah. This video is making me consider deleting my LinedIn account, just to say no to the corporate BS.
@@garrettrinquest1605 Don't. Use it for sleuthing around instead. It can be good for finding job history of certain individuals, whether it's weeding out sketchy charities or doxxing.
I have an account under the name Johnson McLong for this exact purpose.
Besides not work and starve what can we do about it?
The lack of employment gives employers all the leverage. And you may think that there are jobs galore, but who can live on what they earn working for a Pret, for example? Sharing a flat with 10 strangers in a house with faulty heating is the reality of low-paying jobs in a big city like London. The power is all in hands of the company. That's why then happens what usually happens: from young people being completely burnt-out to bullying to harassment, and employees are afraid to quit.
it takes a lot of nerve to stand up to the system and choose to be a monk.
No other channel quite highlights the festering rot in our society and crushes one’s dreams as bluntly as this channel. How Anxiety Works.
Haha, well said. I agree - sometimes the more I know how the world works the harder it is to be optimistic.
"Knowledge is a burden--once taken up, it can never be discarded.".
Last Week Tonight with John Oliver is doing a pretty good job I think..
circlejerk is the perfect description and the comparison mindset is probably worse than IG since most people need a job.
Honorable mention: the amount of applicants you can see when you apply for a job, is beyond discouraging. This is coming from someone who is currently job hunting. Seeing 300+ people applied for a job and the fact that they don’t close it or have a cut off after a certain amount knowing you may be a drop in a bucket, is infuriating. I hate the platform at this point. I don’t even use it to look for jobs anymore.
one of the many tips and tricks we were given back in my college days was "make sure to post, share, or like posts on LinkedIn. it shows recruiters that you are engaged and improves your chance of being seen". One of our communication classes also had a topic on LinkedIn and how to prepare one as students." I know they mean well in trying to get their students to understand the realities of how we are being recruited. It's just kinda sad.
I don't have a LinkedIn and I never will, I can send you my CV in a PDF format if you really wanna know what I am up to.
Those companies that say an applicant is an red flag for not having a LinkedIn, are just stupid because they will miss a lot of great talent. Most of the time those companies itself are huge red flags, because most of the time they exploit the rules and the people working there and for any employers here that use LinkedIn as their primary method of hiring, go sit in a corner and think what you have done wrong.
See, you are looking at it wrong. Its alright for the company to miss a great talent. Because what they want is not the most qualified professional, but someone who is willing to put up with all the crap this crappy company will pour on them, and keep on working. A great talent will just say "screw it" and find a better job. A mediocre person with corporate worship branded on their brain will not.
Honestly, I'd just have one that's isolated from me (fake name, fake age, image generated by "this person does not exist") for the purposes of snooping on others' history.
You'd be surprised about people's job histories, and Linkedin account-gates these days.
I worked in a company that let employees go if they were on LinkedIn. This was many years ago of course, but it pretty much left a message, hey, I am available for work :lol:
i love the way you basically said, "do better" 😂😂😂
@@Code7Unltd and yet another reason i don't care to use LinkedIn
Love all the Joshua Fluke references you’ve had lately. You two are the lawful good & chaotic good sides of business RUclips.
Is his channel also about finance?
@@luisfilipe2023 he calls out corporate cringe. It’s just kinda cathartic to listen to as a corporate employee.
@@thebandwagoneffect is he like those redditors who just wine all the time about having to work for a living (this channel is full of those believe me it’s really bad here)
@@luisfilipe2023 Similar sounding, but way more reasonable than the Redditors you and I are probably thinking of. He calls out companies and individuals for crappy business practices and advocates for employees to think of their work as a transaction rather than a relationship, similar to what this channel talks about.
He rants for a living , very capitalistic mindset, monetize your passion 😂😂😂
My first linkedin page from 10 years ago said;
I get stuff done.
Hire me if you know what's good for you.
With a picture of me sitting idly on a beach waiting for the surf to come in.
My current linkedin page says;
I got stuff done.
It's too late you should have hired me sooner.
With a picture of me sitting idly on a beach drinking a pina colada and waiting for the surf to come in.
That’s sick 😂
A big problem with LinkedIn is the "Easy Apply" button: if one can apply to a job at the click of a button, then one can apply to dozens or hundreds of jobs per day, any position with even vaguely matching skills gets an application because the cost of sending it is so low. But this means every position gets dozens or hundreds of applications per day, far too many for HR to manually screen, so they use overly-rigid AI filters to do the initial screening. But this means any given application is less likely to be seen by a person, especially if it's missing the latest corporate buzzword, so each job seeker must put out more applications, and so on in a feedback loop. In principle LinkedIn could be a massive boon for people in general, but at the moment it is not acting like one.
Yea I deleted mine last year. It's worse than facebook. I didn't think people could get more fake, but linkedin did it.
Like the foreigner who messaged me with one word, my first name
I got sucked into the LinkedIn bs and even signed up for a course/community for LI "brand building"
Within the first 2 weeks I was like holy shit this platform is a bigger joke than I even thought ... they said "unique insights and interesting content isnt a sustainable strategy, so to build your brand what you need to do is write one good post, then rewrite it and say the same thing 10 different ways. Write 10 unique posts and then after your rewrites, you've got 100 posts!"
As an analytical person, the thought of wasting my time and everyone else's with 10x recycled posts was beyond gross.
Also, they recommended taking OTHER people's posts and rewriting THEM 10 times. WHAT!?
They ALSO recommended non-professional content because it makes you appear "human" and showing your "human side" is a good thing. (i.e. take a picture on your weekend or vacation or w/e and talk about some story from your time off and how time off is important for career longevity or some shit)
Well, you can just chatgpt it. Nobody is gonna really read it anyway. It's a waste of time, but at least you can make it a waste of very little time. But ya, don't do it. Let's stop feeding it.
Just another way of controlling the herd I suppose
I'd rather perform self dentistry with a large masonry drill than do what you've described.
Sadly that's how it is with a lot of content marketing, on any platform
I think there're two types of users on LinkedIn, those that put up a profile and maybe use it to search for jobs or post job openings, and almost never engage with any of the social networking features (other than maybe congratulating the odd colleague), and, well, those that do. And the former half sees the latter half as, quite frankly, mostly a bunch of corporate culture obsessed weirdos.
Agree I'm an Engineer and had an excellent LinkedIn profile. Then after the 3rd or 4th major data breach I though about how many times I had gotten a job or I had a successful referral from that website. Answer was only 1. I came to the conclusion LinkedIn wasn't worth the security risk nor my time.
LinkedIn was a sneak peak at a Social Credit Score in action.
We already have credit scores lol
@@kdi17ilSOCIAL CREDIT SCORES...big difference.
I’ve never met or heard of anyone who’s gotten a job via Linked In. Any time I’ve spoken to anyone about it, the general response has been “what a bunch of scammers” 😂
Lol my past 3 jobs were found via LinkedIn. 2 via recruiters and 1 via a job listing. A major factor though is the country (US for me) and the industry.
I did find my last 2 jobs via LinkedIn. It works on that regard. Other than that is bs.
I don't even get interviews from jobs I apply to on LinkedIn.
Nothing
It's just been like living in a desolate black hole for ten years .
LinkedIn probably isn't good for regular working class positions, maybe it's useful for high ranking corporate executives or for finding investors for your start up??
I had landed two great jobs with this and got other good proposals. The key I would say is to use it for job search and avoid it as social media.
Really good explanation of the conflict of interest. Everything is exactly as you said. I will say that for ambitious people, this is just like looking at a gym full of buff dudes and thinking "i will get there if i just keep showing up and stick to my growth routine".
Never used Linkedin to find a job. Don't listen to what people say about needing to have a profile set up... My previous employers strongly encouraged me to sign up and build a profile even though it wasn't something I was comfortable with. The alternative ways to find a job still exist and are just as popular as ever. The only time I've used Linkedin services is when my employers had Linkedin Learning licences, which is actually a decent platform considering the amount of educational content on there.
It's not necessary but it certainly helps your odds. Recruiters spend a shit load of time on LinkedIn, one of the first things they look at in a candidate before an interview is your LinkedIn so if you don't have one then your at a severe disadvantage.
Nah. Linked in connects you to recruiters directly. If you're doing it the old fashioned way, you're counting on an algorithm to not filter out your resume
@@thekrustychub5038 well, I guess I must be something special to get into my current job while being so disadvantaged compared to everyone else
@@TehFlush i don't necessarily believe that. If a recruiter is so busy that they're paying for an advanced algorithm to filter out cv's, then I can also imagine them being too busy to look through and engage in every single message they receive on linkedin to figure out who to invite to an interview.
There are, but it's so much easier to have them all in one place. Instead of spending your time on half a dozen sites you can spend most of your time on one.
And this is why I am more determined to go into the trades as soon as I am done with college next year. Corporate work is disgusting 😣
This! Get on a basic IT and business course, too. Learn to keep financial records, how to create estimates, quotes, invoices and how to present these professionally. That and being able to own and manage your own business, while you ply your chosen trade will help ensure your independence and job security.
As a fellow graduate, college is a complete waste of time. I'll never get those 4 years back. I wish I could do a trade, but these loans man
@@mrc1500 thanks so much for this advice friend.
@@Sid-69 I hear you, friend. I may not have access to student loans on account of being an immigrant, but I understand the struggle of having to scrape to pay those tuition fees.
✨ government work✨prestige, benefits, steady secure career and paycheck, and a well-earned pension at the finish line. Never once regretted skipping corporate America entirely after grad school
Linkedin is the place where I receive 20 messages a day from people trying to sell me something
haha I'm only using linkedin for the easy apply thingy, I ignore the rest
I just got a permanent job at the government and I cannot express how free and reliefed I feel watching this. I'm not 100% free from the rat race but man the private sector has become an insane death cult.
You must be Indian coz no one cares about government jobs other than Indians
Working for the government is better only if you get paid well, which is rarely the case in the public sector where I am.
Celebrating working for the government 😂😂😂
@@bdp295Imagine celebrating working to make rich business owners such as Jeff Bezos, Elon Musk, Bill Gates etc richer while you still struggle to pay for monthly bills 😂
At least as a govt employee you already got your health insurance and pensions covered. At private sectors, you can get fired anytime and there will be nothing you can do about that unless you're willing to spend money and hire a lawyer who has expertise in labor law
*(then again, many corporate slaves are struggling to pay monthly bills, so you should throw the lawyer option out of the window)*
@@Rrw2ko have you ever considered being useful? Because if you aren’t intelligent or strategic enough to own a business, the next best thing you can do is be useful to those who do. The average person is an entirely forgettable, useless moron. If you can’t make yourself stand out, you are - by definition - average or below average. Don’t be that.
Advice from a business owner.
The American corporate world is just as insane as anyone would expect.
I was aggressively told to make a linkedin account, add everyone I can, and it will help me in job search, back when I was 19 in like 2012. Then 10 years later the story was the exact same.
It never did absolutely anything for me and none of the jobs I did ever even as far as mention linkedin
Funny enough, I found my 3rd career changing job on LinkedIn. After finding first 2 in indeed. Also found jobs for my friends through LinkedIn recruiters contacting me and I’d point them to my friends with skillset that match. I have never posted and could careless about the corporate nonsense and virtual signaling I see going on there. We joined at the same time and age. I say all that to say, it has its benefits
I just very recently caved in and started to spruce up my LinkedIn (I already had one but hadn't check it in years). I have to say that from my experience so far, this video hits the nail on the head
I'm retired and am SO grateful I'm out of this insanity.
I find the culture of LinkedIn to pro corporate and less individualism. I hate having to use it but I'm currently a tech worker and it seems like a lot of tech companies use it more than any other. I know not all but I only hop on when I'm maybe looking for a job or seeing what is out there.
LinkedIn is just another way to get NPCs to chase meaningless stuff like job titles and “status” over actually getting compensated
LinkedIn really is weird... But until I have more work experience... I kinda have to keep that profile, but boy oh boy will I delete it right after becoming senior.
But I thank the gods that I'm from Eastern Europe and corporate culture is less cancer here.
Same, 23yo here from a shithole country (im from South America). I just started in the corporate world, looking to do the same as you, become a senior and get off!
People writing appreciation posts (to Meta), after they got seduced and dumped like a side piece, is extremely disturbing.
I would say LinkedIn is useful in moderation. I am a technical IT guy.
I always keep my profile up to date - all certificates listed, job descriptions mentioning all the activities and technologies used etc.
My last 3 job changes were due to recruiters simply sending me a message with an offer that was just too good to refuse.
...why not use such an opportunity?
This keeps me informed on the market conditions and what skills are currently required.
However, I end up muting most of the recruiters that I connected with, due to them posting the crap described in the video.
This is what happens when there is no competitor in any space/platform. You end up in a monopoly, they can and will do things as it's benefits the most for them and not for you!
LinkedIn is the fastest way to find who's willing to compromise their integrity. 🙌
Got banned from Linkedin, that’s how I start a conversation now.
I'm a Software Dev that hasn't had a Linkedin for the majority of my multi-decade career. There are more jobs than developers, even after the SV crunch. The qualification over having social media or not is arbitrary and saves me the effort.
Beyond based
Ur so cool man, that's crazy, multi-decade career, you know that you can't compare yourself to other people that don't have that many years of experience. I think you meant there are a lot more jobs that have over-inflated requirements than there are people that can meet them?
I use it for 3 reasons.
1. Networking, I can casually chat with someone who is in the field/firm I am in or am interested in, 10-30 minute chat over the phone during lunch or on the commute home. Especially if we have something in common. Alumni, sports, same major, etc.
2. Keeping up to date with former colleagues, similar to how facebook is filled with weddings/babies/ birthdays it’s refreshing to see people you know advance in their career.
3. Recruiting, have had very good success and because the recruiters are so competitive I can understand my market rate and what are the requirements to advance in career.
the keeping up to date with former c. is what I use it for most.
@@lapin46 especially because they’re a warm lead on entering a different company or just a “best practice” conversation.
I had it for a while, then got rid of it, then made a very bare-bones profile with the basics. I'd shut it down because that's how a few folks were cyberstalking me and I freaked out. So instead of trying to push myself out there to employers by saying way too much, I put the profile up mostly because if you don't have a social media account, people think you're completely inept or have something to hide. I got rid of FB and never did Ze Bird site (I'm on the fediverse instead for those things), so LinkedIn is basically how someone can look me up and verify that I exist and my job application wasn't created by some bot.
@@ludwigvonsowell5347 actually mostly out of curiosity. :-) Once in while it is something else. Still good points of yours where the portal adds value to employees.
I hate linkedin so much. I cant stand these people that all write that same post "im hapy to announce..." or the people that just got laid off writing how they are so thankful. cringe.
I don't have Linkedin or Facebook profiles.
My view is if they can't find you, they can't hurt you.
The real issue with it is the reality that it legally gives companies information about you , true and not true that is then used to justify even giving you an interview at all. It should be illegal to do this , as it actually means no matter who you are in reality, or how good you are at something, they can immediately discriminate against you for any reason they choose. And since you are never in an actual interview process, they have zero issues legally. I had several friends and colleagues in various companies who all confirmed that it’s exactly what they do. And thats really the reason there is a huge problem with professionalism and knowledge in most us companies.
Linked In makes me sick and I hate how companies want you to add your LinkedIn url to applications sometimes 😩 I felt pressured to create one and I hate it!
I think if I saw one of those statements that praise the employer that just laid them off, I would count that against an employee. I would want employees who speak their mind and honestly try to do what they perceive as best, even if it means pissing a few people off, as long as they aren't needlessly abrasive and rude.
I had Linkedin when it first came out, I never updated my profile, refused to network, and I refused to be a corporate toad or lemming. I retired after a bit more than a decade on Silicon Valley while in my 40s making (inflation adjusted) well over $300k a year. My secret? I earned money the old-fashioned way. Not by sucking up to an employer but by working hard, staring my own business, taking risk, expanding my boundaries. And I inherited a ton of money from a rich, childless relative. Good luck to you reader.
Employment landscape seems to be deteriorating as years go by....
This is a fantastic summary of everything. Thank you! Also - love your sponsor 😀
Legend
dad
@@fruitloopz311 hey son
@@HowMoneyWorks nah man this is the legendary content
It made my career if anything, my last two jobs came from linkedin messages from recruiters, with substantial pay increases each. I didn’t even have to post cringe either, in fact I don’t ever post anything or apply to jobs. Probably an outlier experience, but linkedin definitely worked for me.
Completely agreed. Only social media I have is LI. Last 3 jobs were found via LI. A lot of the posts are hot air though
This is it's core purpose, it is a near perfect practical application for social media. TV is often full of sh*t, it does't mean people shouldn't have a TV. Unless you are Amish. You are in control of how much information you include, many people just include enough keywords to show up in searches by recruiters.
I hate that people treat it like Facebook, by posting motivational quotes, stories, people's thoughts. It sucks.
I don't use LinkedIn, it's cancer.
They want you to bend over and like it. The best way to fight it is to be as independent as you possibly can. Try to figure out how to start a business. I did it and will admit it was tough. But stay encouraged. It can definitely be done.
I thought it was always weird that a number of recruiters or HR people were pseudo celebrities with millions of followers saying overly positive crap and then funneling you in to messaging them to advanced your career.
Cult circlejerk that I really don’t need anymore now that I have a decent job with a great company.
I found it interesting that there's a symbiotic relationship between recruiters and LinkedIn. I toyed with the idea of a jobs website pre-2000. I thought recruiters would not be happy with a jobs website. The jobs website being the competition.
This is a great POV,. While LinkedIn helped me land a client and build connections, I didn't think of the effects of displaying my Personal info and work history. Now it makes me want to tread more carefully
Dumped LinkedIn long ago. Dumped all socials and life has been so much better.
LinkedIn is so toxic and it turned into social media which adds to the toxicity.
HMW: "If the product is free, you are the product."
Also HMW: "Sign up for my free newsletter."
I had LinkedIn when i first started working because everyone else had it. I deleted it when I realized how creepy it was to have all that information out in public. I've always had my social media private even though I barely use social media so the thought of all that information out there just so i could connect with people i already knew was not i wanted. I didn't realize then all the information i was feeding people data brokers then.
I had to do the same--was looking for work and had the hardest time, so I put damn near everything up there to show my interests and qualifications. Led to me realizing I was being cyberstalked by a couple people and I shut it down. I just have one now so employers can find I'm a living breathing human being and my job application wasn't created by some bot to waste their time. I put basic work history and a few interests for a job search and that's it. I don't have FB anymore, so it's really the only way folks can find I exist online.
@@RKG5A5 until they do some update and it kicks all your privacy settings off and makes you public by default, then you find out a few days later & have to rush in and re-set them all again. That was the last straw between me and FB. Haven't had LinkedIn back long enough to see if that's a concern yet, but gonna check it out. If it's so private employers can't see anything, then no point even having it.
@@tallyp.7643Sounds a lot like me. I hate the thought of being forced to put all of that private information online. I don’t want anyone knowing where I work!
but g1rls love social media n cant live a single day without it tho
I wish there was a merge of LinkedIn and something like Glassdoor. Because you’re right in that the information goes only one way. That being said, there are some changes with salary transparency but that’s more to do with laws than anything LinkedIn has done
As i recently found out, it's harmful for the company security as a probing vector. You'd assume someone in a high profile position would think twice whether to disclose sensitive financial information, but you'd be wrong.
If you're an IT professional consider telling the CFO/CEO and upper management to disable their profiles while they're employed.
Great video!
After two months of unemployment, and paying for Premium, I am so aggravated at how worthless LinkedIn really is. I can write most of the positions that I apply for and yet I get nothing. What I get is continual bombardment from corporate kiss ass posts and recruiters that never return messages. I am actively looking for any alternative that is out there. Two months is too long for me. I get the market is nuts but there are far too many jobs out there. I miss the days when you had to walk into a company and literally ask to speak with HR and hand your resume over. Yes, I am "old" but I'd rather venture down that type of path than this online only crap.
Anyone have any other employment sites that work? Not Zip Recruiter or Indeed either.
LinkedIn allows grown adults to regress to their teenage high school selves, complete with popularity contests, clubs, and popular kid asskissing.
It’s a powerful platform for networking but their social media is a toxic environment.
So basically Facebook and Instagram, except more braindead and corporate.
@@mostm8589 yeah…pretty sad considering LinkedIn caters to “professionals”, but all I see on their social feed are professional crybabies.
LinkedIn has downside, but overall it had a positive impact on my life.I’ve had recruiters reach out to me and showed me jobs that I wouldn’t of thought of or found on my own. I am 3 years out of college and I wouldn’t be where I am without LinkedIn. It’s a necessity evil in my eyes.
Same for me, I just posted a similar comment to yours. The company I’m working for right now contacted me through messages and never actually posted the job anywhere, so without Linkedin I would never have even known there was a position I could’ve filled.
Regardless of it’s supposed purpose it’s still a social media platform. It’s still going to be a well curated persona that doesn’t reflect who’s really behind the account. You might be the one looking for a job but the vetting process goes both ways. What the platform does is allow you the potential employer to judge you without you getting to do the same to them.
Depends on how we use it. It helped me a lot