@@gokay2453 It is really confusing, but there are 2 different brands with the name Montana... Montana Colors (also known as MTN) is from spain and produces the 94 and Hardcore Montana Cans is from germany and produces the Gold, Black and white cans
GraffitiBloq I think you know that graffiti stuff is not cheap at all nowadays It will be great if you make a Montana white review and compare it to Montana black
I also feel like Montana has more paint. Good to know about UV protection. I really didn't pay that close of attention. Thanks for another fantastic video CHUCK. STAY UP! 🙂
Montana Black is thick as fuck, need to shake it for 5 minutes get a consistent shade. The pigments are top notch though, but tends to clog up skinny caps. Loop has a fantastic smooth consistency and coverage, BUT... I have to point out one thing: cold weather performance (+5 degrees and under). Loops don't work in very cold climates, and Montana struggles too due to the thick consistency. My favorite paint for winter time is Kobra, always consistent, never clogs caps, you get a nice clean edge. Cheap too. Greetings from the North...
CHROME test MOLOTOW BURNER CHROME VS LOOP CHROME VS MONTANA SILVERCHROME VS MTN MEGA PLAT and many others. - test should be on different Surfaces like Wood, brick, metal, concrate and more - also on wet surfaces on (wood, brick, metal, concrate) - drip and dust - wich one is most "chromeines" - price comparing with the specs from the tests
I’ve primarily used loop unless something has been cheaper, and for the price and how lovely it is to paint with I love it. Not to mention I love the stock tips, most of the things I paint I just use those caps for everything so I’m not swapping them around. Only downside though is I’ve heard and experienced mixed things about loop staying on walls.
I just got myself a set of Montana black for painting. It dries super quickly. But if I use clear coat it helps it to stay wet so I can mix colors. So much fun. I love art! And all you artists out their. Keep at it! Your amazing!
Loop have a little piece of metal and a screw in them i mean for shaking ,cuz chuck says thay have a plastique or other thing but i know right cuz i snap tham every time i use tham , Chuck much respect from Romania👍💪💥
Monatana Cans and Monatana colors are 2 different brands. Montana cans is from germany and producing the black and gold series for example. Mtn colors in spain is producing the 94s and hardcore for example
I've been using Montana for over 20 years but I tried loop black the other day for the first time and I noticed it seemed almost slightly less opaque if not a lighter tone of black if not a lighter tone which made it easier to transition the black into other colors because of its lack of opacity, I like painting with the loop
I love using loop it feels so much better, you should do a spray can tourney knock out cheapest to most expensive and diffrent styles example Montana black and Montana hardcore etc
Montana will also last longer on surfaces such as freights and walls that are thirsty. In chill spots where the sun wont get at it loop is mint, but Ill always take rusto fills and mtn outlines
do a comparison between all the cans And pick the winner after you finish comparing all the cans... also, you could start including points for prices as well
I try white loop and I liked it, but our graffiti shops don't have loops, just montana cans, but most expensive cans...My favourites are MTN 94 and NBQ...cool simple piece aswell :)
I love loop but Montana just fits better since my stuff doesnt hold longer than 2 month anyways and need to come out faster and I just think Montana is faster
Yeah The loop cans don't last as long. I think it's because they are under even higher pressure than Montana blacks. Just like Chuck menssioned that The pressure decreases in the black cans towards The end, but The loop cans don't. Take The mtn 94 as a low pressure comparison. I've always felt like they last way longer than other cans. Loop is easily my favourite can. Kinda like a fusion between a Montana black and a Kobra can.
I feel like loop is better for legal writers because your piece will get covered before it will fade and it has more colors and comes with a outline cap
7:30 Yes, very true, every experienced writer will tell you the same, brighter colors of loop definitely cover better than montana. 9:40 This could be caused by the slightly higher and constant pressure in the loop can. after a while the lower pressure in the montana can leads to lower color output compared to a higher pressure in the can. 10:20 Very important point, i was waiting for you to not mention it and then write it in the comments, but good job my friend! Loop cans contain at least 2 balls, maybe 3, it's hard to hear, but one ball is definitely non-magnetic, while the other one definitely is. I tested it right now, but you are correct, that one loose ball will always be loud, montana cans can be completely silenced by the magnet-method.
From my experience loop has a strange acetone smell which is not really pleasant and people are walking by and it smells like acetone,but Montana on the other hand smells weird too but... People hardly realise that you ve painted cuz the smell of montana is not that harsh Ps:loop is a high pressure paint, cuz I ve done a throwup with mtn 94 which is a low pressure can and the loop for the outline and I felt instantly that loop has a higher output(higher pressure)
I find the loop cans pressure a little too high cause when I do outlines I move very slow witch causes drips in my throwups or pieces but I still prefer loop cause it's probably user error
@@supermarioemulator6487 if you are running away you have more to worry about then rattling cans. When you are out bombing in the middle of the night on a Tuesday the people you walk by are either out doing their own dirt or not going to care. I also know when its late and all you hear is yourself and your climbing up a fire escape or whatever else to hit a rooftop and when you first do it it sounds like your dropping grenades and that your making so much noise . Keep doin it and you will be fine no1 hears you . Do what you want obviously just trying to help .
What? Loop is high pressure? In my country loop is what muralist use, or writers for big production pieces, and for that reason I thought it was low pressure, because you know, Street art muralism need low pressure for details... I'm amazed, I bought loop before quarantine (because it was the stock that it was in my neighborhood), and used it just once, with a bomb and a piece, and I didn't noticed the high pressure. Now I'm shock.
I guess it's all about preference and what you like to do mostly. As for me I love writing on shit I'm a tagger what can I say. I'll do throwies here and there or a piece once in a while but for me Loop has never failed me pressure stays the same through the entire life of the can.
Loop has to have the best white on the market, I really like the cap they come with but the Montana Black feel a bit better, thats personal. But the loop has a better can design.
Rust oleum are the real winners. Cheap, long lasting, high pressure, helps you develope faster and better an an artist. Anyone can do a thin\thick line with a loop or Montana can and a cap. But can you do it with a rust oleum with a stock tip?
This was a good video. I always wanted to try loop but they aren't easy to come by around where I'm at. You are right about Montana blacks doing well against the weathering of the wall or train.
Really helpful man, thanks! I was considering switching to Loop to save money over time but here, it seems like the lines are twice as clean with montana...what do you think?
i prefer montana black loop are good but it feels like loop they got lower pressure and it just idk but ik loop says it got higher pressure but i feel like montana black got more pressure
More graffiti comparisons, YES or NO!?
If YES, what should I compare next?
Yeeees! Maybe next time do buff tests of some hard to buff inks?
why dont u use all the different montana cans like black,gold,94,hardcore?
Mtn 94 vs black
Mth hardcore vs montana white
Montana white review
@@gokay2453 It is really confusing, but there are 2 different brands with the name Montana...
Montana Colors (also known as MTN) is from spain and produces the 94 and Hardcore
Montana Cans is from germany and produces the Gold, Black and white cans
GraffitiBloq I think you know that graffiti stuff is not cheap at all nowadays
It will be great if you make a Montana white review and compare it to Montana black
I also feel like Montana has more paint.
Good to know about UV protection. I really didn't pay that close of attention.
Thanks for another fantastic video CHUCK.
STAY UP! 🙂
Never tried Loop but i got to say that i love that standard cap from Montana. So easy to control even for someone new to graffiti.
True! It's a soft fat cap. A normal fat cap would be a disaster for people who are new to using spray paint haha
Nice, I’m a Montana Black guy tho.
I have a Montana black but it’s water based tho
Nice, I’m a Louisiana Black guy tho.
Yh i like montana black more tbh
@@kaskata_bg1317black dont crack
Montana Black is thick as fuck, need to shake it for 5 minutes get a consistent shade. The pigments are top notch though, but tends to clog up skinny caps. Loop has a fantastic smooth consistency and coverage, BUT...
I have to point out one thing: cold weather performance (+5 degrees and under). Loops don't work in very cold climates, and Montana struggles too due to the thick consistency.
My favorite paint for winter time is Kobra, always consistent, never clogs caps, you get a nice clean edge. Cheap too.
Greetings from the North...
@@xi1fr not at all lol both have pros and cons
@@claytonchaos578 yeah
@anttiskate is new Kobra same spray as Loop, or very simmilar ? They are comming from same factory now.
Kobran valkoinen jostai syyst tukkeutunu useemmin ku Montanat vaik oon ostanu niit suht harvoin, tiiä sit oliks vaa käyttäjävikaa, onks itellä sattunu?
Some loop colors fades really fast, but cheaper tho.
Loop is more expensive than
montana
@@xxbiebrichxx not in Italy, here is like 3.80€.
@@kristianafaga2149 i Think its beacous its made in italy
Loop is cheaper in England as well
Loop is like $7-9 a can in the US . Too pricey for me. Ironlak and montana black $4-5 a can all day long
The mixing ball not being magnetic is a deal breaker. Awesome video as always!
the ball is magnetic, you just have to put the magnet on the side of the can
@@organicleaf community standards take these chains off a ninja!!!!
montana black is still better because it doesnt fade after 2 months
This one is the most important for me too!
@@GraffitiBloq and i think that montana black has a smoother valve
True
Just use rusto it will last forever
@@staszdrojewski4844 nie zesraj się
CHROME test
MOLOTOW BURNER CHROME VS LOOP CHROME VS MONTANA SILVERCHROME VS MTN MEGA PLAT and many others.
- test should be on different Surfaces like Wood, brick, metal, concrate and more
- also on wet surfaces on (wood, brick, metal, concrate)
- drip and dust
- wich one is most "chromeines"
- price comparing with the specs from the tests
Rasmon 123 man got Great ideas
mtn maximo 750 ml is my favorite. same size as an ultrawide but has a standard valve so it lasts longer and has a true chrome mirror finish
I’ve primarily used loop unless something has been cheaper, and for the price and how lovely it is to paint with I love it. Not to mention I love the stock tips, most of the things I paint I just use those caps for everything so I’m not swapping them around. Only downside though is I’ve heard and experienced mixed things about loop staying on walls.
Actually do ya know wich is better
Harcore or loop
Just asking
@@TheOneAndOnlyRealGandalf it guess it depends on your personal preference but I really don’t like hardcore
Oh thanks
Loops have mixingballs out of glass, so you cant use a silencer.
Good to know!
why use silencer? xD
210 VANDALS clearly a rookie or has never been to a train depot 😂
Shits scary when you walk past police and it’s just clack clack clack mate, too many times have I forgotten my magnets xD
well the trick works with the loop asphalt so idk about that
I like both but sometimes loop cans have pressure problems and drip pretty hard
I experienced that too with Loop white - very tough pressure point
Some ideas:
Versus of 600ml high pressure
Versus of cheap cans
Versus of brand inks and markers
I just got myself a set of Montana black for painting. It dries super quickly. But if I use clear coat it helps it to stay wet so I can mix colors. So much fun. I love art! And all you artists out their. Keep at it! Your amazing!
In my opinion you are the best graffiti RUclipsr💪
Yes i had large problems with the loop uv resistance.
Loop have a little piece of metal and a screw in them i mean for shaking ,cuz chuck says thay have a plastique or other thing but i know right cuz i snap tham every time i use tham , Chuck much respect from Romania👍💪💥
Montana Black is best paint for graffiti ...
I think that germany made best quality in the world
Montana is from Spain I think
Hello
Monatana Cans and Monatana colors are 2 different brands. Montana cans is from germany and producing the black and gold series for example. Mtn colors in spain is producing the 94s and hardcore for example
Kobra for life
Well, it they used to at least. I grew up with Belton and Multona cans, way better than anything else in Europe in the 90s.
I've been using Montana for over 20 years but I tried loop black the other day for the first time and I noticed it seemed almost slightly less opaque if not a lighter tone of black if not a lighter tone which made it easier to transition the black into other colors because of its lack of opacity, I like painting with the loop
I love using loop it feels so much better, you should do a spray can tourney knock out cheapest to most expensive and diffrent styles example Montana black and Montana hardcore etc
this is the video that got me interested in spray painting/graff
Montana will also last longer on surfaces such as freights and walls that are thirsty. In chill spots where the sun wont get at it loop is mint, but Ill always take rusto fills and mtn outlines
Rusto definitely stands the test of time compared to other paints .
do a comparison between all the cans And pick the winner after you finish comparing all the cans... also, you could start including points for prices as well
Montana black came out before so it would have to really blow me away to use it over Montana blacks and it definitely doesn't.good video 🔥🔥🔥
I try white loop and I liked it, but our graffiti shops don't have loops, just montana cans, but most expensive cans...My favourites are MTN 94 and NBQ...cool simple piece aswell :)
Please tell something about NBQ ,how you compare it to 94 , how is the coverage...
I love loop but Montana just fits better since my stuff doesnt hold longer than 2 month anyways and need to come out faster and I just think Montana is faster
Your introducing talk is quicker now. I like that
I'm always trying to improve my videos. Also mad a new outro so that suggestions don't cover the piece
Yeah The loop cans don't last as long. I think it's because they are under even higher pressure than Montana blacks. Just like Chuck menssioned that The pressure decreases in the black cans towards The end, but The loop cans don't. Take The mtn 94 as a low pressure comparison. I've always felt like they last way longer than other cans. Loop is easily my favourite can. Kinda like a fusion between a Montana black and a Kobra can.
Just asking
Shoud i buy loop cans
Are they like better than the hardcore by mtn
@@TheOneAndOnlyRealGandalf Buy Loop, hardcore is not as hardcore as it sounds. Paint becomes stalles after 1 month.
I feel like loop is better for legal writers because your piece will get covered before it will fade and it has more colors and comes with a outline cap
7:30 Yes, very true, every experienced writer will tell you the same, brighter colors of loop definitely cover better than montana.
9:40 This could be caused by the slightly higher and constant pressure in the loop can. after a while the lower pressure in the montana can leads to lower color output compared to a higher pressure in the can.
10:20 Very important point, i was waiting for you to not mention it and then write it in the comments, but good job my friend! Loop cans contain at least 2 balls, maybe 3, it's hard to hear, but one ball is definitely non-magnetic, while the other one definitely is. I tested it right now, but you are correct, that one loose ball will always be loud, montana cans can be completely silenced by the magnet-method.
@rawenbert What's the better paint ? Loop or Montana Black. Is it true that Loop fades very fast ? Can you compare the pressurse of these 2 sprays ?
I have many Problems with Loop my Favorit can ist Montana
What problems ?
Loop is better for legal walls because it doesn’t matter if they fade quickly as someone will paint over you in a few weeks
i use Dang and loop because its cheaper to get in my area in Canada, and i have to support myself and my niece and nephew...
i use both of them!! but i prefer loop most, because of the low pressure and couse they dont smell so much as the montana black
@@supermarioemulator6487 They have a hybrid valve. Not pure High pressure as Montana Black.
From my experience loop has a strange acetone smell which is not really pleasant and people are walking by and it smells like acetone,but Montana on the other hand smells weird too but... People hardly realise that you ve painted cuz the smell of montana is not that harsh
Ps:loop is a high pressure paint, cuz I ve done a throwup with mtn 94 which is a low pressure can and the loop for the outline and I felt instantly that loop has a higher output(higher pressure)
I find the loop cans pressure a little too high cause when I do outlines I move very slow witch causes drips in my throwups or pieces but I still prefer loop cause it's probably user error
could you do montana color against montana cans
What about the hardware store spray paint (rustoleum, Krylon, etc...) vs dedicated graffiti cans?
loop kind off has less because of the thickness. black is thin with great cover.
i can use the magnet trick on loop cans too, i think you just need a strong magnet (atleast with the loop asphalt)
That might be the difference. Asphalt is thicker paint
Why use magnets at all . Do the fill and be gone
@@supermarioemulator6487 if you are running away you have more to worry about then rattling cans. When you are out bombing in the middle of the night on a Tuesday the people you walk by are either out doing their own dirt or not going to care. I also know when its late and all you hear is yourself and your climbing up a fire escape or whatever else to hit a rooftop and when you first do it it sounds like your dropping grenades and that your making so much noise . Keep doin it and you will be fine no1 hears you . Do what you want obviously just trying to help .
Yo I know iam late but can you do a mtn hardcore vs Montana black
Chuck have You ever use Dope cans? I used them last week for the first time and was verry nice.
loved that sketch!
if you use a stronger magnet, loop cans can be sileced too
cool vid, but one thing tho, the ball from the loop cans is magnetic, you just have to put the magnet on the side of the can
What? Loop is high pressure? In my country loop is what muralist use, or writers for big production pieces, and for that reason I thought it was low pressure, because you know, Street art muralism need low pressure for details... I'm amazed, I bought loop before quarantine (because it was the stock that it was in my neighborhood), and used it just once, with a bomb and a piece, and I didn't noticed the high pressure. Now I'm shock.
Loop has kind of an hybrid valve. It works well with both fat and skinny caps.
Nice bang i never use the loop ...
From were are you ?
Can i just ask if you buy a montana black does it come with a cap or do u need to buy that separately
Should come with it
@@GraffitiBloq Okay thanks
bro I'm from Italy I love so much your graffiti
I guess it's all about preference and what you like to do mostly. As for me I love writing on shit I'm a tagger what can I say. I'll do throwies here and there or a piece once in a while but for me Loop has never failed me pressure stays the same through the entire life of the can.
Loop has to have the best white on the market, I really like the cap they come with but the Montana Black feel a bit better, thats personal. But the loop has a better can design.
True, I think they have the best white indeed
Have u tried flame orange whites?? They are definitely better than Montana black whites
I'm new in graffiti writing thanks for your tips. Love from Georgia/საქართველო ❤️
I didn't watch the video but black and gold is way better than any other brand in the game in terms of covering colour patterns and pressure
What about the Nitro 2G cans from mtn?
Best for going on wet chrome
Black is good, but colour paint is shit. Doesn't cover chrome.
FLAME BLUE GANG HERE
Nice new video I like both of the cans but i use montana more often
Same!
Yes, Loop have glass balls in the can
I prefer balls of steel ;)))
Compare next flame blue vs flame orange
I have that shirt lol - also, I really appreciate you taking the time to make this video. Super helpful. Thank you.
Rust oleum are the real winners. Cheap, long lasting, high pressure, helps you develope faster and better an an artist. Anyone can do a thin\thick line with a loop or Montana can and a cap. But can you do it with a rust oleum with a stock tip?
Unfortunately rust oleum isn’t really available in Europe... 😔
Keep up the work man👍 proffesional
Do whites aswell for shines ?
Great video bro!
loop obviously switched to a metal mixing ball, cuz i can use magnets on some i bought recently
do ya know wich is better
Harcore or loop
Just asking
hardcore goes out really fast
Montana black extended *600ml* vs Loop colors maxi *600ml*
Montana Black for life.
This is why I don’t bring along the plastic caps and stock tips and just leave em at home and have a baggy of tips in my backpack 1:16
when I do white and black pieces I get a lot of over spray, is there a way to minimise this? (without having to do cutbacks)
Try to do black last. White overspray is always the worst!
Ok only used a loop can 1 time I can never forget that feeling shits soo buttery and smooth crisp lines everytime too uggghh
Make a video on how to make flare tags,. Which caps you found better and so on....✌️😎
THANKS, CHUCK
GREAT VIDEO & REVIEW 😎
Are fat caps universal between these brands or no?
I have montana Gold cans are They the same ?
what about chrome coverage ?i mean about fresh and not wet chrome
Which of these 2 are longer lasting on walls? More permanent & more durable? How long each 1 of them last?
Montana black is defenitely better.
This was a good video. I always wanted to try loop but they aren't easy to come by around where I'm at. You are right about Montana blacks doing well against the weathering of the wall or train.
Anothervictim87 crushed that’s true
Loop was made mainly for Trainwriters
Wow
Thank you for this vid. I should try loop
APET RBF u really should
yes this is him officer, this is the guy that paints the fill-in after the outline
what your favorite white color? (producer)?
loop has a higher output then montana, montana is more of a tag can and fast can then a prof artisitc can like loop
Is Loop better for murals and fine details than Mtn94 ?
Loop black is FIRE 🔥 Iykyk 💯💯
Really helpful man, thanks! I was considering switching to Loop to save money over time but here, it seems like the lines are twice as clean with montana...what do you think?
I think loop is better
nice review chuck
anybody knows why montana blc dont have plastic cup on it? >:(
They have a different solution, the black ring underneath the cap
@@GraffitiBloq yyye ye ty
compare montana hardcore with 94
Mtn 94 low pressure mtn hardcore high pressure is same brand so the rest is pretty much the same
But if you mean Montana black vs mtn hardcore ye that would be a good video
wow mate both are great i use somthing idk if i can cal it spray let say it leave color
Which are your favorite writers/artists? Would be cool to know more specific what styles you enjoy to see out in the streets :D
Good idea! Trying to upload 2 videos from now on, Wednesday and Saturday. So it's a good video idea for Wednesdays
Cool review!!
Answer: if you’re looking for a long lasting piece, go with Montana. And loop has great coverage
I think that Loop (if you paint on trains) is actually pretty good for the price.
@@bummyn6344 here in Italy we don't even have Montana Cans,there's only Mtn, Loop, Dope, keen, Molotow ecc
@@kristianafaga2149 which one you prefer ?
Also I would of gave a point to Montana for their stock cap
Montana definitely wins on opacity
i prefer montana black loop are good but it feels like loop they got lower pressure and it just idk but ik loop says it got higher pressure but i feel like montana black got more pressure
i wanted comparising to hardcores, and noticed that blacks only after more than a half vidxDDD
finally chuuuck! i DM:ed you for almost 6 months ago about video ideas. idk if you remember them tough XD
No I can’t really remember it. But so much ideas, not enough time 😂
Montana for life
Dope piece, and loop indeed is a good brand!🔥🔥
Jij ook hier ahahhahahha
@@Saco-yx6fn ja toch, zijn gwn goeie vids 😂
I actually asked for this in your Instagram account, nice💪
Wait... Price?
Hard to tell as prices are different everywhere. But I both can get them for €3,60
GraffitiBloq ok Thanks for answering
What about loop asphalt