I set this BMW warning melody as my ringtone on my phone. Now, when I'm in public and notifications come through, I immediately notice the startled faces of BMW owners.😂
I really don't get why so few "track" cars lack bonnet vents to help extract heat, especially since engine bays of new cars are so cramped and the heat gets trapped under stupid covers and such. Air gets pushed in the front air dam then has nowhere to go and you get a high pressure build up in the heat exchange zone. Extra cooling helps but airflow management is just as important. It can be integrated into the design smoothly also; it doesn't have to stick out like a sore thumb. Other than that, great mods on the car and it goes hard.
Another hot engine warning of a tuned car! Those who tune these engines doesn't understand that for each and every modification to the engine by the factory, engineers load the engine under full throttle test for hours and measure hundreds of parameters... Lack of expertise = Hot Engine or Engine Blow up 😎
"engineers load the engine under full throttle test for hours " this would be true if the majority of stock cars engines and brakes wouldn't overheat on a track in 5 minutes especially on a warm summer day like this
I've always found it insane that people would dump stupid anounts of money into a turbo kit, cams, or even a full engine rebuild without ever touching the cooling system.
literally the mantra of most cars that are not track weapons on this channel, kind of like how most people upgrade the power of a car before the handling. not sure why everyone overlooks the cooling? maybe they just cant drive it to the limit, so never need to do the cooling. its only people like Misha that take all cars to that limit
@@whitemarmiteolder I get the more I’ve realized handling and cooling are the mods to get before you start pushing power. power is useless if the car needs to cool down/limp mode after 4 minutes of heavy use lol.
This is in stark contrast to almost all of the posts on Bimmerpost forums where cars that are show cars or don't get driven hard at all have the CSF coolers catalog on them. I understand the marketing behind it, but still.
Cooling mods are readily available aswell from csf or DO88, I personally have a larger oilcooler DO88 on my N55 M2. I'm looking to upgrade the secondairy coolant radiator aswell before going hybrid turbo and dorch HPFP.
It's actually really good on fuell on the road but the tank is very small for the engine size and power, so on track using all the power the fuell goes really fast.
And I thought driving in the mountains of Colorado for Audi was a dream job.. A bazillion laps there, PS2/GT4, long ago, has me muscle memory driving with you!! New here, so can't wait to watch many more. Hi Megi!! ONLY suggestion needed, DEFINITLY add a few flyby shots, especially with the slower cars keeping up with the good stuff, ie the 20v Turbo, sleepers etc. I have had a few that you would have enjoyed!!😎🤠
That looked really composed, well planted, managed bumps nicely, really liked the rotation, took the power well & it didn't block too much ambience. Wonder if it'd have handled a lower map. Watching the fuel gauge visibly decrease was fun too...
Maybe the intake-air temperatures (IAT) were very high which throws limp mode on the car. The fix for this would be a really beefy intercooler from Wagner Tuning.
It wasn't the oil temps, that's correct, will do 140-150 no problem. But with a upgrade turbo N55 the problem is the air to air IC, after a few hard kms on track it will overheat anyway no matter what.
Really disappointing to see yet another very capable and well built track weapon being hampered by tuners/builders not realising that part of a good build includes making sure that the car actually is capable of running at full pelt without blowing up. In this case, there wasn't even that much "racing" done due to the two big yellows and barely making it halfway up the uphill section. Just don't understand why builders treat such an important part of the car as "that'll do i guess", rather than making sure that the car is capable of running the power they throw at it. And to be clear, the car was skirting 120C at foxhole already (with a yellow prior). It's an essential part of a build - extracting 500+ horsepower can be done with basically any engine, the only question is "for how long", which is where a good builder can show off his craftsmanship. One thing to always keep in mind: the only reason this car didn't blow up was because computers prevented it to. It's just disappointing, since otherwise the car seemed absolutely amazing.
I do wonder who’s done the work because NVM won’t let you walk out the door without properly addressing cooling on such a build. I do cooling FIRST. People really get their ideas from the internet and mistake it for knowledge around track use. Shame that people are so fixated on dyno and draggy runs these days that they forget the car won’t be able to do anything twice or back to back when just going for power is the goal. I’m not putting it on this guy by the way, maybe he just doesn’t know and of course the tuner never told him, which is what I’m saying generally happens when anyone can open a tuning shop lift a few limitations copy and paste tables and increase boost.
In this case it was the engine/cooling temperature and not the oil temperature as usual 👍 130 degrees of oil is nothing unusual for this car with Misha pushing 😂
@@joaobettencourt9163both connected though, with high oil temps it generally drags up water too, so a bigger oil cooler might resolve it. It's a shame these cars don't have a water temp, proper dumbing down by BMW
2:553:48 that is not blow-off valve sound, it's compressor reversion (air flowing backwards through the compressor) because the blow of valve is set too tight, and it will eventually damage the turbo
@@cris8ro the reversion pressure waves put massive axial loading on the thrust bearing in the turbo which can lead to accelerated wear and ultimately blade contact with the housing
Yeah that's complete rubbish. Like the majority of the inline 3.0L BMW engines, the DV is recirculating and doesn't vent to atmosphere. Actuator is set automatically, no such thing as too tight lol.
@@jasonhowell3323 put a thin membrane ie some sort of material over the compressor inducer and you will see the reversion pressure waves moving in sync with the sound
Deffo better off buying the older gen if your looking to track it. The new ones go through tyres faster, brake discs faster, pads faster and joints too. THats what happens when all your cars come close to 2 ton in weight. Just silly. Become very expensive to run and maintain. Thats the future though I guess.
OG M2 is significantly lighter but f87 M2 comp is 1655kg on a scale , g87 zf8 with carbon roof and buckets is 1710kg with full tank, only 55kg heavier .
No, according to factory claims it is around 150 kg difference. The weight of the M2 Comp you stated is with full tank and driver weight, whereas G87s >1700 kg are without 75 kg for the driver. DIN weights for manuals are as follows: M2 - 1495 kg, Comp 1550 kg, G87 1700 kg. Difference for auto/DCT is 25-30 kg extra.
@@RSnowin u wrong there a several videos where they actually weight both cars for example savagegees F87 M2 comp dct is 1655kg with full tank without passenger,and G87 is 1710kg with full tank zf8 and carbon roof and buckets without passenger.
@@karolmaciejewski340 M2 Comp are often heavier than claimed, because they were poorly equipped from the factory and therefore „standard“ extras add some weight in most of the real world cars. Anyhow, lightest DIN weights are the ones above.
@@RSnowin bmw was putting weigh without fuel in earlier years, now they have to put weight with full tank and all fluids that's why G87 is so much heavier in a media info. But trust me and put both cars on a scale , the actuall difference is much smaller.
I never understand why people mod their cars for XXXX hp but then refuse to spend the extra few bucks for actual cooling which will is more useful than going from 500 to 550 or 600hp
The sound of the turbine just speaks about the absence of a bow-off. This sound causes a surge - when the air flow with the throttle closed does not find an outlet and hits the turbine impeller. UPD. This reduces the service life of the turbine, but in this way the motor response is better, due to the absence of pressure reduction in the intake manifold
I am an OG M2 owner. They have a marginal cooling system anyway, as standard. What turnip tunes one to 450/500 bhp maps and doesn't upgrade the cooling ffs.
My Og is 620bhp. I rag the crap out of it and have never had any issues with cooling. I Was at Thruxton last year in 30 degree heat and it was fine. Seen a few big power n55s on this channel and this is the only one have an issue.
@@lloyd.8272 You must be living in a cave matey. You only have to read a few forums, and do a bit of research to know, the cooling system is only adequate for standard cars. It is the first thing any good tuner will suggest, to upgrade. So this is not the 'only one' to have this issue, it is actually very common. And before you start to go down the 'I have a tuned one and you don't so I know and you don't' road, I have had tuned cars all my life, and worked in the motor trade for years, so I do understand about the issues various engines struggle with.
@@lloyd.8272 Yes Lloyd, and I do actually believe you. I ran a tuned M140i for 4 years, and literally ragged it every time I went out in it. That was 455bhp/634nm with just a 200 cell Wagner cat, and a day on the dyno, no cooling upgrades. The B58 does have a very good charge cooler, which is ok to around 550bhp supposedly. The N55 in the OG M2 had the same cooling system parts as the M135i/M235i and as you probably know, the N55 in the OG M2 is basically a tuned version of that. So it is already operating above it's natural capacity even in the standard M2, so with an extra 100bhp, and all of the heat generated by the extra power, it is very much over the limit of what is usually acceptable. There are dozens of forum posts and youtube videos, about the cooling, and even with a remap the tuners advise an upgraded intercooler.
@@DjNikGnashers mine does have a upgraded Nvm intercooler. Also running e30 fuel that runs slightly cooler cylinder temperatures than 98. Though we were on about engine coolant upgrades as pre the issue in the video.
I love these F87 chassis cars far more than I do the newer G87. G87 has lost it's BMW flavor, something still to this day doesn't attach my eyeballs to it. I myself own and drive an F11 530d xDrive (2013. last month pre-lci)
Is there a allready a video _(like all? the years before) published, which shows/discusses the modifications/restaurations the Nordschleife track gets/got this winter 2023/24 downtime? Would be nice if you someone could link it, because I did not find it °_o
another overpowered and under cooled car. ok in a stop light to stop light drag, but useless for prolonged spirited driving. this was actually a bummer, it was a beast while it was cool..
620 in my og m2 and no issues being on track, to be fair there have been a few on this channel and this is the only one to have a issue. Wonder who tuned it?
just after viewing some videos almost anybody must know very well it is strongly recommended to need have the cooling to be uprated well too for an Nring powerlap, and this also needs even with most fully stock cars... ....but with a tuned car is a musthave so why for the hell comes here somebody again without that mod, after spending a large amount of money for engine mods? this is not like RR measurement, when the engine is on full load for ~10secs only
I set this BMW warning melody as my ringtone on my phone. Now, when I'm in public and notifications come through, I immediately notice the startled faces of BMW owners.😂
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I really don't get why so few "track" cars lack bonnet vents to help extract heat, especially since engine bays of new cars are so cramped and the heat gets trapped under stupid covers and such. Air gets pushed in the front air dam then has nowhere to go and you get a high pressure build up in the heat exchange zone. Extra cooling helps but airflow management is just as important. It can be integrated into the design smoothly also; it doesn't have to stick out like a sore thumb. Other than that, great mods on the car and it goes hard.
The Oil-Temperature gauge has an interesting range... up to 170°C :D
Mad Max Mode)))
even in my n52 f25 x3 it goes from 70-170C n 120 being the middle mark. They are designed to run hot for efficiency.
@@ridingtherr0502wow
Fryingpan temps
Even my M140i has the same range 😅
I can see how that Pop-Off Sound can get very Addicting
I’m curious what brand valve they are running
@@dylanpage4106it’s not a blow off valve. It’s called compressed surge. It’s what happens when you don’t have a blow off valve.
@@2seep mmm. No.
@@2seep this vehicle is equipped with a diverter valve. Companies like Turbosmart make aftermarket versions.
@@dylanpage4106Tial most likely
Another hot engine warning of a tuned car! Those who tune these engines doesn't understand that for each and every modification to the engine by the factory, engineers load the engine under full throttle test for hours and measure hundreds of parameters... Lack of expertise = Hot Engine or Engine Blow up 😎
yup this guys setup is ok for a street car where u do pulls and then ease of but for track nah
"engineers load the engine under full throttle test for hours " this would be true if the majority of stock cars engines and brakes wouldn't overheat on a track in 5 minutes especially on a warm summer day like this
@@ahhhh226stock power car will do lap after lap (save for pad upgrade)
yeah maybe for the GT3 they do but literally no other car, over countless cars 2 laps on a short circuit they are done
I've always found it insane that people would dump stupid anounts of money into a turbo kit, cams, or even a full engine rebuild without ever touching the cooling system.
Way more than just an okay car and lap. Maybe Misha can convince the owner to come back after cooling and seats are sorted!🎉
Note to self if i ever give misha a car to drive upgrade cooling by 200%😂😂
Those that bash n55’s are smooth brains, such a linear power band they have
literally lol. N55 gets so much hate until theres a big turbo in the picture even though it can still make 450whp on stock turbo
@@colemansmcmillans9657only the EWG N55s can do that though
The n55 is a great example of something good being perceived as bad because something better exists.
The acceleration is nutty in the high speed range.
So he upgraded everything except the cooling 😬
literally the mantra of most cars that are not track weapons on this channel, kind of like how most people upgrade the power of a car before the handling. not sure why everyone overlooks the cooling? maybe they just cant drive it to the limit, so never need to do the cooling. its only people like Misha that take all cars to that limit
@@whitemarmiteolder I get the more I’ve realized handling and cooling are the mods to get before you start pushing power. power is useless if the car needs to cool down/limp mode after 4 minutes of heavy use lol.
@@whitemarmiteSowas merkt man halt erst auf dem Track. im normalen Straßenverkehr bekommst du solche belastung niemals hin
This is in stark contrast to almost all of the posts on Bimmerpost forums where cars that are show cars or don't get driven hard at all have the CSF coolers catalog on them.
I understand the marketing behind it, but still.
@armite then the whole engine tune is made for what? to do a RR measure when it is 100% load for 8-10 seconds? wow
Cooling mods are readily available aswell from csf or DO88, I personally have a larger oilcooler DO88 on my N55 M2. I'm looking to upgrade the secondairy coolant radiator aswell before going hybrid turbo and dorch HPFP.
OG n55 M2 manual is my dream car 🙏🏻
Me too. Best looking BMW of all time with a fantastic motor and a manual trans? Yes please
I bought one two year ago in manual.. no regrets at all ! I
I’ve owned my manual og since new, had it 7 years now and still love it.
Bro lost 1/4 of a tank in 1 lap with yellow flags. it drinks fuel
It's got a small tank
it only got a 50l Fueltank, when you drive normal you can reach 350-400km
It's actually really good on fuell on the road but the tank is very small for the engine size and power, so on track using all the power the fuell goes really fast.
It's like the range of a Tesla performance model
@@kenengriereally good on fuel? You’re joking right?
That's the issue with the N55. Cooling. It lacks cooling. S55 is superior for a track car.
Dual oil coolers and a Mosselman thermostat.
And I thought driving in the mountains of Colorado for Audi was a dream job.. A bazillion laps there, PS2/GT4, long ago, has me muscle memory driving with you!! New here, so can't wait to watch many more. Hi Megi!! ONLY suggestion needed, DEFINITLY add a few flyby shots, especially with the slower cars keeping up with the good stuff, ie the 20v Turbo, sleepers etc. I have had a few that you would have enjoyed!!😎🤠
That looked really composed, well planted, managed bumps nicely, really liked the rotation, took the power well & it didn't block too much ambience. Wonder if it'd have handled a lower map.
Watching the fuel gauge visibly decrease was fun too...
Maybe the intake-air temperatures (IAT) were very high which throws limp mode on the car. The fix for this would be a really beefy intercooler from Wagner Tuning.
It wasn't the oil temps, that's correct, will do 140-150 no problem. But with a upgrade turbo N55 the problem is the air to air IC, after a few hard kms on track it will overheat anyway no matter what.
Wow! Another car with a lot of power mods, but no cooling mods! :D
Really disappointing to see yet another very capable and well built track weapon being hampered by tuners/builders not realising that part of a good build includes making sure that the car actually is capable of running at full pelt without blowing up.
In this case, there wasn't even that much "racing" done due to the two big yellows and barely making it halfway up the uphill section. Just don't understand why builders treat such an important part of the car as "that'll do i guess", rather than making sure that the car is capable of running the power they throw at it. And to be clear, the car was skirting 120C at foxhole already (with a yellow prior).
It's an essential part of a build - extracting 500+ horsepower can be done with basically any engine, the only question is "for how long", which is where a good builder can show off his craftsmanship. One thing to always keep in mind: the only reason this car didn't blow up was because computers prevented it to. It's just disappointing, since otherwise the car seemed absolutely amazing.
I do wonder who’s done the work because NVM won’t let you walk out the door without properly addressing cooling on such a build. I do cooling FIRST. People really get their ideas from the internet and mistake it for knowledge around track use. Shame that people are so fixated on dyno and draggy runs these days that they forget the car won’t be able to do anything twice or back to back when just going for power is the goal. I’m not putting it on this guy by the way, maybe he just doesn’t know and of course the tuner never told him, which is what I’m saying generally happens when anyone can open a tuning shop lift a few limitations copy and paste tables and increase boost.
In this case it was the engine/cooling temperature and not the oil temperature as usual 👍 130 degrees of oil is nothing unusual for this car with Misha pushing 😂
But you're right, unfortunately what's more is heating problems... Unfortunately...👍
@@joaobettencourt9163both connected though, with high oil temps it generally drags up water too, so a bigger oil cooler might resolve it. It's a shame these cars don't have a water temp, proper dumbing down by BMW
2:55 3:48 that is not blow-off valve sound, it's compressor reversion (air flowing backwards through the compressor) because the blow of valve is set too tight, and it will eventually damage the turbo
No it won't, its a myth
@@cris8ro the reversion pressure waves put massive axial loading on the thrust bearing in the turbo which can lead to accelerated wear and ultimately blade contact with the housing
Yeah that's complete rubbish. Like the majority of the inline 3.0L BMW engines, the DV is recirculating and doesn't vent to atmosphere. Actuator is set automatically, no such thing as too tight lol.
@@jasonhowell3323 put a thin membrane ie some sort of material over the compressor inducer and you will see the reversion pressure waves moving in sync with the sound
Seeing the old m2 next to the new m2 makes you realize what a disaster the design of the new one is.
owners says full track car, no cage, no bucket seats and worst of all no cooling improvements. smh
Yeah. Who is he kidding 😂😂😂😂
Great video as usual Misha. And thanks for putting the temps aswell :)
you know what we need a misha POV cam like the F1 one
New video = Happines. Thank you Misha.
Deffo better off buying the older gen if your looking to track it. The new ones go through tyres faster, brake discs faster, pads faster and joints too. THats what happens when all your cars come close to 2 ton in weight. Just silly. Become very expensive to run and maintain. Thats the future though I guess.
Incredible car. thanks for the video Misha. You are the Best
Wow, insane power delivery!
You should of put it in Sport+ , it opens the circuit , I've never had the oil more then 116 celsius, I have the Wagner ic
that's why i use motul 300v competition 5w40 on my tuned og m2. oil temps are stable and cools down alot faster than the 0w30 that bmw recommend.
This was a joy to watch. 👌🏿
Big up Swift Performance for the suspension setup 😎
i used to have the lci M2, but dayum that thing is quick the power delivery looks awesome
The top cooling on the S55 of the BMW M2C still plays a singnificant role
Woow that m2 is clean 🧼
Even with 2 yellows .. Car lasted half of a lap
Damn as he was catching the Porsche that would have been so sick, I feel his pain 😂
Yeah, too bad the car got hot, otherwise it would’ve been an amazing catching race:)
Good cam setup. Nice run!
OG M2 is significantly lighter but f87 M2 comp is 1655kg on a scale , g87 zf8 with carbon roof and buckets is 1710kg with full tank, only 55kg heavier .
No, according to factory claims it is around 150 kg difference. The weight of the M2 Comp you stated is with full tank and driver weight, whereas G87s >1700 kg are without 75 kg for the driver. DIN weights for manuals are as follows: M2 - 1495 kg, Comp 1550 kg, G87 1700 kg. Difference for auto/DCT is 25-30 kg extra.
@@RSnowin u wrong there a several videos where they actually weight both cars for example savagegees F87 M2 comp dct is 1655kg with full tank without passenger,and G87 is 1710kg with full tank zf8 and carbon roof and buckets without passenger.
@@karolmaciejewski340 M2 Comp are often heavier than claimed, because they were poorly equipped from the factory and therefore „standard“ extras add some weight in most of the real world cars. Anyhow, lightest DIN weights are the ones above.
@@RSnowin bmw was putting weigh without fuel in earlier years, now they have to put weight with full tank and all fluids that's why G87 is so much heavier in a media info. But trust me and put both cars on a scale , the actuall difference is much smaller.
@@karolmaciejewski340 no, simply not true. All measured by the same standard.
Intercooler? Also, 450whp seems to be the N55 limit for aggressive track use with the best of cooling
you're spot on with the sound... love my n55
Serious M2 ultimate turbo rush nicely set up car fair play looks very quick Mischa riding the big turbo woosh massive smiles👌
This is awesome once again Misha, Camaro is in this week for 6pots especially for you ! 💛
Woohoo!❤
But when are you going??? 😝
Love a car you can drive and not fight.
I never understand why people mod their cars for XXXX hp but then refuse to spend the extra few bucks for actual cooling which will is more useful than going from 500 to 550 or 600hp
Mostly because they never push the car that hard to face overheats. Owner said it himself at the end of the video as well.
@@cptgoc maybe they are afraid to push it and can flex to their friends that they have X hp or they have no clue at all
@@Floxiiik or just using their cars to launch between two traffic lights in the hood
The n55 is truly underrated it doesn't get the love it deserves, also kind of dumb going big turbo and not upgrading cooling.
dude i want to go to the nurburgring so bad it seems like heaven in there i just wanna get my license and fly to Germany just for the nurburging
Was i the only 1 watching the temp gauge more than the lap 🤦🏻♂️😂😂
The fuel light with a third of a tank left made me laugh 😅
i just got a m2 competition and its amazing, if you can get one then do it cuz bmw will not make another one like it
The handling looks sharp.
Bravo as usual Misha, props from Ireland
0:38 and this looks way MOREEEEE awesome looking
Full track but no cooling mods :D
11:34 that lanes is only for Left turn ;)
Why I see a Mini-Misha in the passenger position? 🤣
Otherwise, great car and ride again, thanks Misha!
Damn...Mischa another lap in this BEAST please❤🎉
Love how you can literally see the fuel gauge fall like an egg timer lol...what we on there about 6mpg?
In my standard N55 M2 on a fast track it is ~8.5mpg. So on this one with the engine upgrades I think ~ 6 is a good estimate.
Love the sound of turbo surge, but hate to hear it. Too bad this build skipped on the cooling portion, such a great car otherwise
The sound of the turbine just speaks about the absence of a bow-off. This sound causes a surge - when the air flow with the throttle closed does not find an outlet and hits the turbine impeller.
UPD. This reduces the service life of the turbine, but in this way the motor response is better, due to the absence of pressure reduction in the intake manifold
N55 has a blow off valve.
Why did BMW get rid of the double headlight on the new M2.... one of the defining characteristics of a BMW?
Everyone's on crack with these new LEDs...they have a commercial for VW or KIA idk whatever where u can pick diff pattern on DRLs....?
Awesome car... What was "wrong" with the engine sound in 6th gear ?
Fully hectic but over heats 👍
Hopefully he made the crank hub upgrade 😮
M2 OG ❤
It´s hot like an F16 AB and drinks fuel like one too.
Lack of cooling just disappoints me. Upgrades everything minus cooling.
Yeh that's not a full track car mate.
Love these videos, definitely need to go 🫡
Good video
Anyone know where the SP sticker is from on the tailgate? I have it on my M2 but not sure what it's referring to.
Mosselman thermostat asap!! 🤯
bro put a 30pin in a lightning port
Which Pure Turbo were they running? The powerband is 🔥🔥🔥
Got the answer from the owner. Pure750
F87 was german hands on, yes! Still prefer than the G87 made in mexice....
Heating faster then our induction cooker.
🎉 rear camera goodness 🎉
Wish Porsche was chasing hard 😃
“Full track car” and forgets 2 of the most important factors being Cooling and seats.
This car is a beast 😮🚀🚀 but doing 150mph uphill and still not catching the car in front is hilarious 😅 "is it a turbo S?" 😅😅
What type of bov was on it sounds fantastic
Damn when i saw the vent holes in the bumper I thought this wont even get near hot but it wasnt enough...
The extra vents are CAI(cold air intake) vents to the air box/induction cones. The hybrid turbo/s heat cooking the oil is the problem they had.
@@munners0852so would need an additional oil cooler for it to be good?
YESSS MISHA LOVES N55s 🤣❤️❤️
Would love to see ken sr take this car for a drive
hot winter day
I have a genuine question on your opinion for the vredestein hytrak tyres.
Looks much faster than that so called 500bhp Audi a few videos back
BONG ! you have 1/3 rd of a Tank left... range is now 48 miles if you continue driving like this ...
But WHAT A 48 miles they would be XD
MISHA Lives on the track
'Full track car'😂😂😂😂
N55's get hot all the time.
I am an OG M2 owner.
They have a marginal cooling system anyway, as standard.
What turnip tunes one to 450/500 bhp maps and doesn't upgrade the cooling ffs.
My Og is 620bhp. I rag the crap out of it and have never had any issues with cooling. I Was at Thruxton last year in 30 degree heat and it was fine.
Seen a few big power n55s on this channel and this is the only one have an issue.
@@lloyd.8272 You must be living in a cave matey.
You only have to read a few forums, and do a bit of research to know, the cooling system is only adequate for standard cars.
It is the first thing any good tuner will suggest, to upgrade.
So this is not the 'only one' to have this issue, it is actually very common.
And before you start to go down the 'I have a tuned one and you don't so I know and you don't' road, I have had tuned cars all my life, and worked in the motor trade for years, so I do understand about the issues various engines struggle with.
@@DjNikGnashers I’ve owned it 7 years and it’s been over 500 for the last 3 years with no issues. 🤷♂️
@@lloyd.8272 Yes Lloyd, and I do actually believe you. I ran a tuned M140i for 4 years, and literally ragged it every time I went out in it. That was 455bhp/634nm with just a 200 cell Wagner cat, and a day on the dyno, no cooling upgrades.
The B58 does have a very good charge cooler, which is ok to around 550bhp supposedly.
The N55 in the OG M2 had the same cooling system parts as the M135i/M235i and as you probably know, the N55 in the OG M2 is basically a tuned version of that.
So it is already operating above it's natural capacity even in the standard M2, so with an extra 100bhp, and all of the heat generated by the extra power, it is very much over the limit of what is usually acceptable.
There are dozens of forum posts and youtube videos, about the cooling, and even with a remap the tuners advise an upgraded intercooler.
@@DjNikGnashers mine does have a upgraded Nvm intercooler. Also running e30 fuel that runs slightly cooler cylinder temperatures than 98.
Though we were on about engine coolant upgrades as pre the issue in the video.
I love these F87 chassis cars far more than I do the newer G87. G87 has lost it's BMW flavor, something still to this day doesn't attach my eyeballs to it. I myself own and drive an F11 530d xDrive (2013. last month pre-lci)
Nice one 😁
Stage 1000 without supporting mods. Definition of blueballing :)))
Is there a allready a video _(like all? the years before) published, which shows/discusses the modifications/restaurations the Nordschleife track gets/got this winter 2023/24 downtime?
Would be nice if you someone could link it, because I did not find it °_o
another overpowered and under cooled car. ok in a stop light to stop light drag, but useless for prolonged spirited driving. this was actually a bummer, it was a beast while it was cool..
620 in my og m2 and no issues being on track, to be fair there have been a few on this channel and this is the only one to have a issue. Wonder who tuned it?
It is interesting to see how hard nurburgring is on cars.
just after viewing some videos almost anybody must know very well it is strongly recommended to need have the cooling to be uprated well too for an Nring powerlap, and this also needs even with most fully stock cars...
....but with a tuned car is a musthave
so why for the hell comes here somebody again without that mod, after spending a large amount of money for engine mods?
this is not like RR measurement, when the engine is on full load for ~10secs only
N55: the German 2JZ :)
You mean B58/S58? N55 is open deck
@@Jeroen440the n55 in the m2 can handle around 650-700 hp reliable if you keep an eye on the torque. so its not far off
@@Jeroen440also 30 years newer technology than the JZ
Also has cast iron liners for extra strength
I want to drive with you one day ! That would be awesome :)
Does anyone know what pure turbo he is running?