yet this is in fact a sonar scan that does show an unusual object, that actually DOES resemble her specific model of airplane... post this junk on a story with no details, not on a real one.
Well, I don't think there's any mystery in the loss of Ms Earhart. She and crew were trying to cross the Pacific using NDB, dead reckoning, and celestial navigation to find a tiny island in the Pacific. I am an old retired guy and my first career was USAF navigator. I've crossed oceans many times using DR and cel, with addition of doppler radar and conventional radar (GPS was theoretical in that day). But I was looking for a continent near the destination, not a tiny island (except when flying to the Azores: that raised the pucker factor!). When radar showed a land mass, I could take a fix and confidently establish our position. Betting my life on NDB, dead reckoning, and celestial navigation to find a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific because your life depends on it is foolish.
I'm an old school Army Infantryman where map reading and knowing where I'm at at any given time on the face of the earth in case I need to call fire support. The advances in technology over my 25 year career were nothing short of amazing. I would add that if anybody could have navigated to the island back then it would have been Fred Noonan. I watched the documentary called Across the Pacific it was about the early days of the Pan Am China clippers. Noonan was by far the most experienced navigator on the planet at the time of the disappearance with Earhart. As you well know it only takes one wrong reading or one malfunction to put you off course. Personally I don't think they will ever find her plane as it's probably a coral reef by now.
I’ve seen many documentary’s about Amelia. In one, other famous female pilots of the day stated that Emilia was not in fact a good pilot. And that she shouldn’t have been making such risky flights. Also, she’d ignore her navigators and go with her ‘hunches’ instead. She’d done that before after crossing from South America to Africa with Fred Noonan, ignored his instructions and even flew in the opposite direction trusting her hunch about where they were. Pilot error.
0:50 "She was a terrific pilot", no. She was famous for being famous, and is famous for getting herself and her navigator killed. Her record shows that she was not such a good pilot, and Fred Noonan was not a great navigator. He was the only navigator she could get. There were so many other women pilots of the time that were far beyond her skill, such as Pancho Barnes and Jaquie Cochran, who we should all look up to. It's a sad tale that nobody seems to know they existed.
There were many great women pilots in the golden era. Willa Brown, Laura Engels, among them. Amelia was a good pilot but willing to push her boundaries.
@@chrissmith7669 At the time, there were many better women pilots than Earhart, but she had a rich husband who would buy her airplanes and get them fixed when she broke them.
Lost all credibility when he stated she was "a terrific pilot". As many people have pointed out in the comments, her record shows she was a lousy pilot and crashing was nothing new to her.
@@srf2112 I have 2500 flight hours and I was flying before the internet was invented. Now learn how to do research. Do you know that "internet" and "wikipedia" actually do NOT mean the same thing? Do you know that if you don't just click on the first thing that comes up (wikipedia) but actually spend time looking, you can find many sources to compare for a basis of reliability? Do you know that there are things called "books", which had people called "editors" trying to make the "books" accurate, because something called a "publisher" would go out of business if their "books" were inaccurate? Or have you in fact not even bothered to do any looking whatsoever, and you really have no idea what her record was, and you're another troll that likes to start on line arguments?
Anyone that can fly a twin engine radial taildragger is not a bad pilot. Especially having to make landings extremely fatigued from long hours of flying. Im a commercial airplane and helicopter pilot and understand what it takes to do what she accomplished. Also if you are judging pilot ability with crashing then pilots like Chuck Yeager must be the worst pilot ever given how many planes he crashed.
Ever since I saw the Unsolved Mysteries as a kid, I'd hope one day someone would finally solve the mystery of what happened to her. I hope this brings us one step closer...
And that's assuming she even made a successful landing on the water instead of nose diving in. I wonder if Noonan reminded the girl boss of the genius move of ditching the life raft as they were treading water. Should have gotten out of the plane instead of staying with an arrogant pilot too vain to accept advice from far more experienced people.
I'll add a positive comment in an effort to improve the love/hate ratio 😂I wish you guys all the very best in your search. It would be wonderful to find her resting place. Keep safe and don't let the naysayers get you down!
Like the numerous ships laying on the bottom of the Atlantic after WW2, the Pacific is full of airplanes on it's bottom, many of which weren't where they were supposed to be or are simply unknowns being lost to history. A lot of them are a size and kind similar to Earheart's Electra so without better proof I'm not holding out any hopes that her plane has been found until we have a lot better confirmation of the chance.
That area has dozens of planes of similar size. Picking out her plane would be a looong shot. But, they did find the Titanic. And Howard Hugh recovered part of a sicken Russian sub and great depth so anything is possible. Not probable though.
@@caroltenge5147 I’ve followed the search plus all of Tighar efforts. Plenty of great theories but precious little evidence to back up any theories. We shall see if this comes to anything but I am Very skeptical until more is found
A very tragic story… Other female pilots of that time say though that Emilia was not a terrific pilot and that she shouldn’t have been doing these flights. On a documentary I saw about her it was said that she’d often ignore her navigator’s instructions and trust her ‘hunches’ instead. She’d ignored Fred Noonan’s instructions before. Pilot error.
Amelia was a good pilot only because her headline hunting husband said so. He navigator was said to be an alcoholic with health problems. Going around the world with those two was a long shot. Odds caught up.
Not remotely click bait. It says potential. And in the area where she should have been, they located a plane looking shape on the bottom..... It's not absolute proof, but it definitely has potential...
She was pretty fuckin good. This was done at a time when many leading pathologists in the US did not believe women had the physical capabilities to run more than a few hundred feet, were too emotionally volatile and prone to neurotic, erratic moodiness to be trusted for one second operating any machinery outside the home, etc. So she made some mistakes doing something which was hardly out of its infancy, big deal. She dared to be great, and that made her great, even if she wasn't necessarily the greatest pilot.
She was a lousy pilot by most accounts and had numerous accidents. She also was not proficient with radio navagation and refused to learn the technology of the day.
HUGIN 6000 ...it would be great to know more about this auv and it's capabilities and past missions. It is very promising and I cannot wait until you get back out there and get the close up look. I know the radio transcrip from Amelia said "I am on you but I cannot see you" as she approached Howland Island where a Navy ship was waiting to assist. She said she was very low on fuel at the time so I would think she would circle and hope to get a break in the visibility and be able to make visual contact and land for refueling. Sad it did not happen for her but as an explorer she knew there are no guarantees. I hope you find her!
It least this story is not from TIGHAR claiming they found some bones on an island 400 miles away and that conclusively solves the mystery. Only her plane brought to light solves that mystery.
Back in the late 80's I worked for Sears in Michigan. One day a older lady (about 85) bought some stuff, and wrote a check and the name on her check was Amelia Earhart!! This mystery has been solved a long time ago, alive well in a Sears store in Michigan.
If, IF they do find the plane, they sure as heII won't be able to "see those numbers written on the wing". 86 years on the bottom of the ocean, if that is where her plane ended up, I would expect that there would be very little recognizable due to corrosion. Maybe the engines, if they were even attached after a ditching at sea.
"A terrific pilot"? Records show very much the opposite. She was not a good pilot, and both she and the airplane were ill-prepared for the trip. The results -- all too predictable.
Glenn Miller's plane went down in the English Channel in 1944 and nobody's pretending to find it. How would the airframe be intact after that much time and falling to a depth of 15,000 feet?!!
The oddest thing was neither her navigator nor Amelia knew how to send Morris code. One of the problems was they were unable to hear her clearly in lot of her transmissions on HF. Those days voice communications over long distances used HF same as today but it's very difficult to always make out what someone is saying. If they had been able to use Morris code or CW continues wave, they could have sent code transmissions much further.
The sonar also shows the possibility of twin tails. If it isn't a Lockheed Electra, and IF warplanes from WWII also disappeared near Howland Island, then it could be a B-25, P-38, or maybe a Mitsubishi G3M "Nell", etc.
She just went to what she thought was the right area and flew until running out of gas just isn’t interesting enough. So every year, just like the Houdini séance, we make a new story line. I remember about five stories about what happened, with proof they made fit until 2005. Then I went to an army reunion and the guy that made a speech ended with we have almost pinpointed Amelia’s plane. Followed by around eight more searches that have “new information.” Like a researcher for army air corp history told me, a lot of these people we will figure out what happened when we meet in the afterlife. They will fill in all the blanks.
the difference here is that the Houdini seances ended some years ago. also, Amelia may well have been a crappy pilot, but she was definitely breaking down walls for women. this is not a bad thing.
Seems quite unlikely that the skin would be intact after this time. Moreover, that the wings would fall to those depths intact would require a minor miracle.
What about the 300 Marines who SAW her intact plane sitting on the tarmac at Aslito Airfield on the island of Saipan, just after the Marines captured it !!
I'm an old sailor and I could find Howland within 10 miles with nothing more then a sextant, a good watch and a clear sunrise. At 1000 feet 2 mile long Howland would be clear to see at ten miles and could be spotted from up to almost twenty. But they were shooting for something even bigger, the 40 mile gap between Howland and Baker islands. I believe they came up short owing to rising head winds as the sun came up and they turned north on 157/357 25 or 30 miles to early. If I'm right that sonar image they just found should be about 150 miles nw of Howland along 157 measured from about 30 miles west of Howland. Can't wait to till they go back and send down a camera.
The difficulty with seeing Howland from the air is shown by the 1937 report given below. Add to that, the fact that the receive antenna had been (unknowingly) ripped from the Electra on the last take off, causing no reception in the aircraft, one can see that Amelia may have thought they were far off course to the north, causing no radio reception. Thus, heading south was what she decided to do - to either find Howland or at least make the Phoenix Group of islands. She was already south of Howland, making it even more likely she made it to Gardner. Robert M. Stanley, who participated in the air search for AE, flying off the USS Lexington in July 1937, gave a similar report: "During the week, during our search to the North and West of Howland Island, the weather followed an unvarying pattern. A strong east wind created high waves and white caps. Frequent rain showers of locally great intensity dotted the horizon in all directions. The sea was flecked with white caps and wind steaks, effectively masking any debris, had there been any. The rain showers were too dense to fly through, but were small enough they could be flown around. Morning, noon, and night, the weather pattern never varied. It was not stormy; merely the normal weather pattern of that part of the Pacific. ... We passed within 5 miles of Howland, but none of the search party ever saw the Island, as we were not searching by air that closely; others had already done so, and our assignment lay further northwest. Nevertheless, even as close as five miles, the island could not be seen from the bridge of the USS Lexington; it was probably hidden by a rain shower" (Earhart’s Flight into Yesterday, p. 60).
July 2, 1937 Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan departed Lae, New Guinea, in her Lockheed Electra 10E Special NR16020 bound for Howland Island in mid Pacific thence Hawaii .. lost and low on fuel they landed on the reef at Nikumaroro Island in the Republic of Kiribati 4°39'30.37" S Latitude, 174°32'40.23" W Longitude. The aircraft was visible on the 2018 Google Earth listing for Nikumaroro Island above which must have been taken at low tide, the latest GE image seems to have been taken at high tide since the plane can no longer be seen. The plane is located a few hundred meters north of the wreck of SS Norwich City which ran aground in bad weather on the northern part of the island, while on a voyage from Melbourne Australia to Hawaii on the night of Nov. 29, 1929, taking the lives of eleven crew members.
It cannot be Earhart's Electra, as five separate stations took bearings on her confirmed radio transmissions that continued for days after her disappearance, which means she landed somewhere. (Lockheed certified that the Electra could not transmit unless on land with landing gear down. The transmitter was under the floor and would be the first thing to flood in a water landing. Plus the batteries would not be able to allow transmission for days unless the right engine was run to charge the batteries - impossible unless on land with wheels down) The bearings taken on her transmissions all intersect on what was then called Gardner Island, which is south of Howland on the exact heading she said she was flying. Bones of a female matching Earhart's build and ethnicity were found on the island, as well as a photo from the 30's that appears to show part of the Electra's landing gear. Later residents of the island (1940s) say that there used to be remnants of an airplane on the reef surrounding the island.
The guy in the video says, "She was a terrific pilot and I think we're going to prove that." I would not class Earhart as "a terrific pilot." She was not even instrument certified. She ground-looped the Electra and wrecked it - although having flown tail draggers, I must say they can get rather tricky on the ground. Considering the weight of the 1100 gallons of fuel on board, that ground loop is understandable. But there are other factors that impinge her flying record. The most damning thing is that she had not made herself thoroughly familiar with her radio equipment, specifically, the direction finding equipment on board. She was trying to use it at a frequency that it was not designed to operate. That is why she could not get a fix. The main thing that killed her is the fact that her receive antenna was ripped from the airplane on her last take off, making her unable to hear anyone else. That was not her fault, but she could have used the direction finding loop to receive on, but she did not seem to be aware that she could do that, and that is her fault. (There is some evidence she figured that out after landing on Gardner.) Also, if she had read the manual for the direction finder she would have known what frequency to use it on and would have known she could also use it as a backup antenna for voice reception. Also, neither she nor her navigator knew Morse Code, which was the standard for communications in 1937. Morse transmits farther, could use more frequencies, and is more easily received without distortion. Learning Morse Code before attempting to circumnavigate the globe at the equator (never done before) should have been a no-brainer for a "terrific pilot." Knowing your radio equipment is part of being a good pilot. For these reasons, though an amazing and brave woman, I would not class her as a "terrific pilot."
Other WW2 era planes have been discovered submerged for roughly the same amount of time. Although there is deterioration, they certainly still look like planes. I assume the deeper it gets the less corrosion. The USS Johnston Destroyer was found at 6000m in remarkable condition with painted numbers clearly visible.
@@daveminer9217 Yes, they do, but if she ran out of fuel, she would have at least tried a water "landing" which has been successful many times, depending on conditions of course and the plane would have sunk intact.
I am 42 and ever since I was little I've been very interested in Ms. Earnhart's mystery. Everytime I was able to implement any portion if her life and events surrounding her disappearance into a book report or school project, I did. I am a huge aviation nerd and dreamed of being a pilot because of this woman. (Medical reasons kept that from coming to fruition) I would love to see this story see closure in my lifetime. I, as a woman, owe alot to the glass ceiling breaker. Good luck to these gentleman in giving closure to so many of us. I will definitely be checking for updates.
Hmm, Amelia was a mediocre pilot and Fred liked the "bottle" and possibly/probably made a navigating mistake on the final leg caused them to go off course and land into the Pacific Ocean. I've also read that they didn't have the best radio setup and that may have played a role in their disappearance. That statement should have been made with a part sarcasm, part truth and part conjecture alert at the start. 🙂
Mr. Romeo, I wish you the best of luck and thank you for your efforts. I also like to point out that your appearance is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
Amelia Earhart was a very poor pilot. On her last flight, the highly regarded navigator who was hired had her land the plane on the seventeenth bounce so he could get out. They eventually found a disgraced, drunk for a navigator who didn't know Morse Code, like AE, to fly with her because he needed the job.
The vague image at 1:45 has swept wings, if it's a crashed airplane. It would be a good idea to check for records of something like an F-86 crash there,
I can already tell you this isn't her plane. The image their ROV sent back is of a wreckage featuring a swept-wing design. It doesn't match her plane's design at all.
She was careless, reckless, and foolish, and she wound up getting herself and her copilot killed all in the name of trying to get some headlines. She’s exactly what a pilot shouldn’t be stripping the plane down for extra mileage and getting rid of the necessary navigational equipment is just plain suicidal..
I love how Murikans cannot use Months as a term for what period in the year it started. Its started in "Fall". Well fall is your Autumn, which for 1/2 of the world is our Spring. So what fucking month did it start in?
What about the photo of the Electra, wings off, on a barge behind a Japanese ship from a few years ago? I though they were executed and the custom Lockheed was taken to Japan for examination.
Earhart's deserved reputation as a poor pilot was given an extreme make-over as "history's greatest aviatrix" by her manipulative, publicity-hound of a husband, who cashed in on his wife's ambitious, if negligible flying abilities. If the blurry image near Holland Island does, in fact, belong to an aircraft, that means almost nothing in itself at this point, because many Japanese and U.S. warplanes went down in those same waters from 1941 to 1944. As the man says, no one can say for sure, until the side-scan sonar picks up an i.d. number from the sunken "airplane". Of all the numerous theories attempting to explain Earhart's disappearance, the most credible documents her last flight as an espionage mission on behalf of the U.S. Navy to photograph Japanese military installations at Holland Island. Her plane was shot down, but she survived until, after a few years in solitary confinement. Earhart was beheaded, her corpse shuffled into an unmarked grave, just before American forces invaded. Check it out.
Interesting but as so many have said “many we think we solved it stories” have preceded this one. Still it would be great to have this solved for all. I wonder the radio messages allegedly heard from her after she went down would I am guessing be inconsistent if the plane went down where they suggest i.e. in water that deep probably no where near shore. Could the Electra have floated and transmitted awhile and be heard on shortwave as far as Florida? Strange things happen but I got some big doubts one way or the other.
So you haven’t found her final resting place. She was a pioneer and a good pilot, but she couldn’t use a navigational radio and couldn’t make the trip solo.
I wonder. Certainly appears that Earhardt did create some very serious blunders for herself. If I recall .. seems like by far, the MOST serious was that she left or lost a major portion of an LF wire antenna back at Lae. Given the navigation criticalities for such an extremely difficult navigation problem, that she left that antenna behind ... for ANY reason, was inexcusable. As a pilot (retired) I'd have called off the entire thing, before leaving such a critical element behind like that. But, every day, almost every hour it seems now ... SOMEONE makes similar or worse critical flight decision like that. Flight in any machine is extremely unforgiving. At least somewhat shaky navigator, poor radio performance ... extremely difficult nav problem ... incomplete knowledge in some areas of the problem ?? Poor Amelia just built a pit for herself from which the outcome was very sad, but inevitable. It would seem that out of all the other outlandish, wishful thinking, dreamed up, even outrageous and virtually impossible imagined conclusions of this flight, the POSSIBLE location of this POSSIBLE airframe at the bottom of the ocean, seems the most likely and reasonable scenario. The image shape is absolutely indecipherable ... so far. As evidenced most recently, in odd Mars and moon images, our brains can make/create almost any reality, out of any shape, or arrangment of any objects. This image being no exception .... !!!
She did not leave the antenna behind. It was clearly visible in the video when she taxied out. But it was clearly missing on her take-off roll. She apparently ran over a hump in the ground or a pothole or something that snagged the receive antenna as she taxied out. With such a heavily loaded airplane it is understandable that she and her navigator did not feel or hear it happen. The receive antenna was mounted on the underbody of the aircraft, which was a terrible design flaw.
There is a bunch of evidence they already found evidence of the crash one of the islands of Kiribati, I bet that plane at the bottom of the sea is just some random WW2 wreck.
Are we all being sucked in again? If this a true find then I look forward to seeing underwater footage. Given all the maybe stories of the past near 90 years, why am I skeptical?
You might mention that your work is based upon years of work done by others. The other aspect, she wasn't the navigator. He great abilities as a pilot, could easily be overshadowed, by the extreme difficulties he (the navigator) faced to safely navigate a safe path, with limited fuel across the Pacific.
'Potential' is very much a key word here, I have lost count of the Potential discoveries of Amelia Earhart's disappearance over the years
OR! Things like the "Millennium falcon" in the Baltic Sea a few years back :P
Either its fun to keep the dream alive.
Not to mention the countless "speculationtary"!
Kind of like the Oak Island thing.
yet this is in fact a sonar scan that does show an unusual object, that actually DOES resemble her specific model of airplane... post this junk on a story with no details, not on a real one.
every year there are a few "we found Earhardts plane" storys...get proof THEN release the story
I agree with you completely, BUT that's not how its done in this day and age of sensationalism. Sad but true.
It’s called click bait crap!
@@wallywally8282 Or maybe they found her?
Perhaps they need to raise funding to get back down to that wreck ?
Pretty sure there are deep pockets that will fund this.
Space Karen and Aviation Gin Guy would be two off the top of my head.
Aw, not again!!! She been found at least 18 times since 1990.
That's because she's a popular historical figure. 😁😉
Well, I don't think there's any mystery in the loss of Ms Earhart. She and crew were trying to cross the Pacific using NDB, dead reckoning, and celestial navigation to find a tiny island in the Pacific. I am an old retired guy and my first career was USAF navigator. I've crossed oceans many times using DR and cel, with addition of doppler radar and conventional radar (GPS was theoretical in that day). But I was looking for a continent near the destination, not a tiny island (except when flying to the Azores: that raised the pucker factor!). When radar showed a land mass, I could take a fix and confidently establish our position. Betting my life on NDB, dead reckoning, and celestial navigation to find a tiny island in the middle of the Pacific because your life depends on it is foolish.
I'm an old school Army Infantryman where map reading and knowing where I'm at at any given time on the face of the earth in case I need to call fire support. The advances in technology over my 25 year career were nothing short of amazing. I would add that if anybody could have navigated to the island back then it would have been Fred Noonan. I watched the documentary called Across the Pacific it was about the early days of the Pan Am China clippers. Noonan was by far the most experienced navigator on the planet at the time of the disappearance with Earhart. As you well know it only takes one wrong reading or one malfunction to put you off course. Personally I don't think they will ever find her plane as it's probably a coral reef by now.
@@mikebrase5161 - It won't be a coral reef at 5 km down. That's deeper than Titanic. The rest is still anyone's guess.
Thank you for your wise comment.
I’ve seen many documentary’s about Amelia. In one, other famous female pilots of the day stated that Emilia was not in fact a good pilot. And that she shouldn’t have been making such risky flights. Also, she’d ignore her navigators and go with her ‘hunches’ instead. She’d done that before after crossing from South America to Africa with Fred Noonan, ignored his instructions and even flew in the opposite direction trusting her hunch about where they were. Pilot error.
@@GWNorth-db8vnyou know it’s that far down? Why?
0:50 "She was a terrific pilot", no. She was famous for being famous, and is famous for getting herself and her navigator killed. Her record shows that she was not such a good pilot, and Fred Noonan was not a great navigator. He was the only navigator she could get.
There were so many other women pilots of the time that were far beyond her skill, such as Pancho Barnes and Jaquie Cochran, who we should all look up to. It's a sad tale that nobody seems to know they existed.
There were many great women pilots in the golden era. Willa Brown, Laura Engels, among them. Amelia was a good pilot but willing to push her boundaries.
@@chrissmith7669 At the time, there were many better women pilots than Earhart, but she had a rich husband who would buy her airplanes and get them fixed when she broke them.
debbie downer has entered the chat
@@batrat7 lol
@@batrat7lol there’s always gotta be one 😂
Lost all credibility when he stated she was "a terrific pilot".
As many people have pointed out in the comments, her record shows she was a lousy pilot and crashing was nothing new to her.
Have you seen this "record"? Because as we all know internet comment threads are where you'll find the most qualified, objective experts.
@@srf2112
I have 2500 flight hours and I was flying before the internet was invented. Now learn how to do research. Do you know that "internet" and "wikipedia" actually do NOT mean the same thing? Do you know that if you don't just click on the first thing that comes up (wikipedia) but actually spend time looking, you can find many sources to compare for a basis of reliability? Do you know that there are things called "books", which had people called "editors" trying to make the "books" accurate, because something called a "publisher" would go out of business if their "books" were inaccurate?
Or have you in fact not even bothered to do any looking whatsoever, and you really have no idea what her record was, and you're another troll that likes to start on line arguments?
@@srf2112 I'm sorry but she crashed several times "for real" look it up It's out there for public reading.
I agree that she was not terrific, she wad bold and brave. Noonan was a drunk. No old bold pilots
Anyone that can fly a twin engine radial taildragger is not a bad pilot. Especially having to make landings extremely fatigued from long hours of flying. Im a commercial airplane and helicopter pilot and understand what it takes to do what she accomplished. Also if you are judging pilot ability with crashing then pilots like Chuck Yeager must be the worst pilot ever given how many planes he crashed.
Ever since I saw the Unsolved Mysteries as a kid, I'd hope one day someone would finally solve the mystery of what happened to her. I hope this brings us one step closer...
She ran out of gas ditched the plane in the water and drowned that's it.
And that's assuming she even made a successful landing on the water instead of nose diving in.
I wonder if Noonan reminded the girl boss of the genius move of ditching the life raft as they were treading water. Should have gotten out of the plane instead of staying with an arrogant pilot too vain to accept advice from far more experienced people.
@@tired7140 wrong she died on Saipan in 1944 executed by the Japanese.
The image looks like a swept wing aircraft. Looked like an old MiG or Sabre from the 50s. Hers was a straight wing.
It does appear to be swept wing.
I'll add a positive comment in an effort to improve the love/hate ratio 😂I wish you guys all the very best in your search. It would be wonderful to find her resting place. Keep safe and don't let the naysayers get you down!
Well said!
Like the numerous ships laying on the bottom of the Atlantic after WW2, the Pacific is full of airplanes on it's bottom, many of which weren't where they were supposed to be or are simply unknowns being lost to history. A lot of them are a size and kind similar to Earheart's Electra so without better proof I'm not holding out any hopes that her plane has been found until we have a lot better confirmation of the chance.
That area has dozens of planes of similar size. Picking out her plane would be a looong shot.
But, they did find the Titanic. And Howard Hugh recovered part of a sicken Russian sub and great depth so anything is possible.
Not probable though.
I do hope they find some evidence to provide closure
The evidence, all documented is there if you get the book and read it. Do your homework.
@@caroltenge5147 I’ve followed the search plus all of Tighar efforts. Plenty of great theories but precious little evidence to back up any theories.
We shall see if this comes to anything but I am Very skeptical until more is found
A very tragic story… Other female pilots of that time say though that Emilia was not a terrific pilot and that she shouldn’t have been doing these flights. On a documentary I saw about her it was said that she’d often ignore her navigator’s instructions and trust her ‘hunches’ instead. She’d ignored Fred Noonan’s instructions before. Pilot error.
Charles Lindberg said she was the best mediocre pilot he knew.
Amelia was a good pilot only because her headline hunting husband said so.
He navigator was said to be an alcoholic with health problems.
Going around the world with those two was a long shot. Odds caught up.
she crashed every airplane she flew@@spaceranger3728
Her husband said she was a poor pilot.
@@davidbell1619 He’s the one who pushed her to make these risky flights. Rumor has it that she was pregnant also!
If it's a plane, I hope it's not another WW2 wreck- although that would still be cool...
Seems most likely, though.
Perhaps a Beech 18.
A mystery remains a mystery until it is solved.
I was about to criticize then I saw the sonar image. OK, they want some funding and a media team with them. Even so ... kinda clickbait on the title.
Not remotely click bait.
It says potential.
And in the area where she should have been, they located a plane looking shape on the bottom.....
It's not absolute proof, but it definitely has potential...
click bait? Money bait......
She was NOT a “terrific pilot”. That’s a myth born of her sensationalized death.
She was pretty fuckin good. This was done at a time when many leading pathologists in the US did not believe women had the physical capabilities to run more than a few hundred feet, were too emotionally volatile and prone to neurotic, erratic moodiness to be trusted for one second operating any machinery outside the home, etc.
So she made some mistakes doing something which was hardly out of its infancy, big deal. She dared to be great, and that made her great, even if she wasn't necessarily the greatest pilot.
From a young age I always found the story of Amelia (which was incomplete at that time) fascinating.
She was a lousy pilot by most accounts and had numerous accidents. She also was not proficient with radio navagation and refused to learn the technology of the day.
Are you guys all one bot with different names?
That sonar echo looks more like an ME 262 than an Electra!😁😁
The Electra is on the moon with the green cheese people.
@@caroltenge5147 With Elvis as co-pilot?😲😲
HUGIN 6000 ...it would be great to know more about this auv and it's capabilities and past missions. It is very promising and I cannot wait until you get back out there and get the close up look. I know the radio transcrip from Amelia said "I am on you but I cannot see you" as she approached Howland Island where a Navy ship was waiting to assist. She said she was very low on fuel at the time so I would think she would circle and hope to get a break in the visibility and be able to make visual contact and land for refueling. Sad it did not happen for her but as an explorer she knew there are no guarantees. I hope you find her!
If it is an airplane the wings are different (delta type) from Amelia's airplane.
Assuming the plane wasn't damaged in the ocean impact.
Elvis mystery jet?
The wings were changed just before she took off, and her ship landed on mars.
It least this story is not from TIGHAR claiming they found some bones on an island 400 miles away and that conclusively solves the mystery. Only her plane brought to light solves that mystery.
And at the end of the TV show there will, once again, a Scottish guy saying, “Well, we didn’t find Nessie again.”
Another click bait RUclipsr cashing in with speculation and supposition, glad I read the comments first, it saved me 2minutes.
Back in the late 80's I worked for Sears in Michigan. One day a older lady (about 85) bought some stuff, and wrote a check and the name on her check was Amelia Earhart!! This mystery has been solved a long time ago, alive well in a Sears store in Michigan.
So when are we going to find out or is this another Al Capone's vault?
already is. Sucker bait.
Other woman in her cadré were far better pilots, just not as well-promoted or supported.
If, IF they do find the plane, they sure as heII won't be able to "see those numbers written on the wing". 86 years on the bottom of the ocean, if that is where her plane ended up, I would expect that there would be very little recognizable due to corrosion. Maybe the engines, if they were even attached after a ditching at sea.
Every year we discover either Emilie Earhart or the ark.
"A terrific pilot"? Records show very much the opposite. She was not a good pilot, and both she and the airplane were ill-prepared for the trip. The results -- all too predictable.
Glenn Miller's plane went down in the English Channel in 1944 and nobody's pretending to find it. How would the airframe be intact after that much time and falling to a depth of 15,000 feet?!!
Anybody who has actually researched the disappearance of Glen Miller knows that the plane disappeared over the Dartmoor Triangle.
The oddest thing was neither her navigator nor Amelia knew how to send Morris code. One of the problems was they were unable to hear her clearly in lot of her transmissions on HF. Those days voice communications over long distances used HF same as today but it's very difficult to always make out what someone is saying. If they had been able to use Morris code or CW continues wave, they could have sent code transmissions much further.
Is that anything like Morse code?
That sonar image projects a swept wing craft not a tapered straight wing craft. Likely a downed USAF F-86 Sabre lost during war.
What war? No combat took place with F-86s over Howland Island.
The sonar also shows the possibility of twin tails. If it isn't a Lockheed Electra, and IF warplanes from WWII also disappeared near Howland Island, then it could be a B-25, P-38, or maybe a Mitsubishi G3M "Nell", etc.
Lol an F-86 was my first thought too. It could be literally anything though. The odds of it being any kind of plane are astronomically slim.
@@SalisburySnake That's why they're going to go down there and take a look at it. But it is at a depth 2,500 feet deeper than The Titanic.
The plane had swept back leading edges, lookup Lockheed E10 Electra, also the double tail fins.
She just went to what she thought was the right area and flew until running out of gas just isn’t interesting enough.
So every year, just like the Houdini séance, we make a new story line.
I remember about five stories about what happened, with proof they made fit until 2005. Then I went to an army reunion and the guy that made a speech ended with we have almost pinpointed Amelia’s plane. Followed by around eight more searches that have “new information.”
Like a researcher for army air corp history told me, a lot of these people we will figure out what happened when we meet in the afterlife. They will fill in all the blanks.
the difference here is that the Houdini seances ended some years ago.
also, Amelia may well have been a crappy pilot, but she was definitely breaking down walls for women.
this is not a bad thing.
Seems quite unlikely that the skin would be intact after this time. Moreover, that the wings would fall to those depths intact would require a minor miracle.
I'ts very cold down there. The cold slows chemical reactions dramatically.
It's rumored that her original navigator quit because she wasn't a very good pilot. i sure hope that's her plane.rip.
What about the 300 Marines who SAW her intact plane sitting on the tarmac at Aslito Airfield on the island of Saipan, just after the Marines captured it !!
I'm an old sailor and I could find Howland within 10 miles with nothing more then a sextant, a good watch and a clear sunrise. At 1000 feet 2 mile long Howland would be clear to see at ten miles and could be spotted from up to almost twenty. But they were shooting for something even bigger, the 40 mile gap between Howland and Baker islands. I believe they came up short owing to rising head winds as the sun came up and they turned north on 157/357 25 or 30 miles to early. If I'm right that sonar image they just found should be about 150 miles nw of Howland along 157 measured from about 30 miles west of Howland. Can't wait to till they go back and send down a camera.
Sounds like you should be on their team.
Sounds like you should be on their team.
Sounds like you should be on their team.
The difficulty with seeing Howland from the air is shown by the 1937 report given below. Add to that, the fact that the receive antenna had been (unknowingly) ripped from the Electra on the last take off, causing no reception in the aircraft, one can see that Amelia may have thought they were far off course to the north, causing no radio reception. Thus, heading south was what she decided to do - to either find Howland or at least make the Phoenix Group of islands. She was already south of Howland, making it even more likely she made it to Gardner.
Robert M. Stanley, who participated in the air search for AE, flying off the USS Lexington in July 1937, gave a similar report:
"During the week, during our search to the North and West of Howland Island, the weather followed an unvarying pattern. A strong east wind created high waves and white caps. Frequent rain showers of locally great intensity dotted the horizon in all directions. The sea was flecked with white caps and wind steaks, effectively masking any debris, had there been any. The rain showers were too dense to fly through, but were small enough they could be flown around. Morning, noon, and night, the weather pattern never varied. It was not stormy; merely the normal weather pattern of that part of the Pacific. ... We passed within 5 miles of Howland, but none of the search party ever saw the Island, as we were not searching by air that closely; others had already done so, and our assignment lay further northwest. Nevertheless, even as close as five miles, the island could not be seen from the bridge of the USS Lexington; it was probably hidden by a rain shower" (Earhart’s Flight into Yesterday, p. 60).
The logo on the submersible looks like the "keep calm" meme.
not again "we found a blurry, ambiguous sonar image, so we left, and will return next year"
I’m sure they have found it because no other aircraft have ever gone missing or been shot down over the central Pacific.
If it is her aircraft I hope she and her navigator are OK...
July 2, 1937 Amelia Earhart and navigator Fred Noonan departed Lae, New Guinea, in her Lockheed Electra 10E Special NR16020 bound for Howland Island in mid Pacific thence Hawaii .. lost and low on fuel they landed on the reef at Nikumaroro Island in the Republic of Kiribati 4°39'30.37" S Latitude, 174°32'40.23" W Longitude.
The aircraft was visible on the 2018 Google Earth listing for Nikumaroro Island above which must have been taken at low tide, the latest GE image seems to have been taken at high tide since the plane can no longer be seen.
The plane is located a few hundred meters north of the wreck of SS Norwich City which ran aground in bad weather on the northern part of the island, while on a voyage from Melbourne Australia to Hawaii on the night of Nov. 29, 1929, taking the lives of eleven crew members.
It cannot be Earhart's Electra, as five separate stations took bearings on her confirmed radio transmissions that continued for days after her disappearance, which means she landed somewhere. (Lockheed certified that the Electra could not transmit unless on land with landing gear down. The transmitter was under the floor and would be the first thing to flood in a water landing. Plus the batteries would not be able to allow transmission for days unless the right engine was run to charge the batteries - impossible unless on land with wheels down)
The bearings taken on her transmissions all intersect on what was then called Gardner Island, which is south of Howland on the exact heading she said she was flying. Bones of a female matching Earhart's build and ethnicity were found on the island, as well as a photo from the 30's that appears to show part of the Electra's landing gear. Later residents of the island (1940s) say that there used to be remnants of an airplane on the reef surrounding the island.
Who would buy Amelia Earhardt luggage? I mean...seriously.
"Many people wouldn't try today" I mean... the faa wouldn't let them..
😂😹🤣 *Time for our quarterly dose of Amelia related teasing, innuendo, obfuscation, & baseless speculation!*
Oh Christ, here comes another Hollywood Movie...
You really expect to see numbers on a wing on a plane that’s been at the bottom of the ocean for nearly 85 years? Yeah. Good luck with that.
The guy in the video says, "She was a terrific pilot and I think we're going to prove that." I would not class Earhart as "a terrific pilot." She was not even instrument certified. She ground-looped the Electra and wrecked it - although having flown tail draggers, I must say they can get rather tricky on the ground. Considering the weight of the 1100 gallons of fuel on board, that ground loop is understandable. But there are other factors that impinge her flying record. The most damning thing is that she had not made herself thoroughly familiar with her radio equipment, specifically, the direction finding equipment on board.
She was trying to use it at a frequency that it was not designed to operate. That is why she could not get a fix. The main thing that killed her is the fact that her receive antenna was ripped from the airplane on her last take off, making her unable to hear anyone else. That was not her fault, but she could have used the direction finding loop to receive on, but she did not seem to be aware that she could do that, and that is her fault. (There is some evidence she figured that out after landing on Gardner.) Also, if she had read the manual for the direction finder she would have known what frequency to use it on and would have known she could also use it as a backup antenna for voice reception. Also, neither she nor her navigator knew Morse Code, which was the standard for communications in 1937. Morse transmits farther, could use more frequencies, and is more easily received without distortion. Learning Morse Code before attempting to circumnavigate the globe at the equator (never done before) should have been a no-brainer for a "terrific pilot."
Knowing your radio equipment is part of being a good pilot. For these reasons, though an amazing and brave woman, I would not class her as a "terrific pilot."
Read the title of this story! 'Potential' new discovery--There you are!
Who goes out with a sonar without the ability to lower a camera down just to rule it out.
The Lockheed did not have swept wings like a fighter plane. Case closed.
Since i'm no expert on metals and the ocean: Can her plane be in the ocean for as long as it has and still maintain it's structure?
I'd say so, the Titanic is still down there
@@91wheelz The titanic was 53 thousands tons of steel, , that girls plane was 4 tons of coke cans,.
Think about it 🤔
Other WW2 era planes have been discovered submerged for roughly the same amount of time. Although there is deterioration, they certainly still look like planes. I assume the deeper it gets the less corrosion. The USS Johnston Destroyer was found at 6000m in remarkable condition with painted numbers clearly visible.
Don't most planes like that, including modern commercial airliners break apart on impact with water. Wings that are still intact......I doubt it.
@@daveminer9217 Yes, they do, but if she ran out of fuel, she would have at least tried a water "landing" which has been successful many times, depending on conditions of course and the plane would have sunk intact.
I am 42 and ever since I was little I've been very interested in Ms. Earnhart's mystery. Everytime I was able to implement any portion if her life and events surrounding her disappearance into a book report or school project, I did. I am a huge aviation nerd and dreamed of being a pilot because of this woman. (Medical reasons kept that from coming to fruition) I would love to see this story see closure in my lifetime. I, as a woman, owe alot to the glass ceiling breaker. Good luck to these gentleman in giving closure to so many of us. I will definitely be checking for updates.
Her name was Earhart without the 'n'.
5,000 meters ! That's over 3,200 feet deeper than the Titanic.
Hmm, Amelia was a mediocre pilot and Fred liked the "bottle" and possibly/probably made a navigating mistake on the final leg caused them to go off course and land into the Pacific Ocean. I've also read that they didn't have the best radio setup and that may have played a role in their disappearance. That statement should have been made with a part sarcasm, part truth and part conjecture alert at the start. 🙂
Like Obi Wan said, this is not the plane you are looking for.
There were photographs found that had parts of a planes landing gear in the background on the shores of Gardner Island.
Fake news.
Mr. Romeo, I wish you the best of luck and thank you for your efforts. I also like to point out that your appearance is terrifying. Absolutely terrifying.
Amelia Earhart was a very poor pilot. On her last flight, the highly regarded navigator who was hired had her land the plane on the seventeenth bounce so he could get out. They eventually found a disgraced, drunk for a navigator who didn't know Morse Code, like AE, to fly with her because he needed the job.
The vague image at 1:45 has swept wings, if it's a crashed airplane. It would be a good idea to check for records of something like an F-86 crash there,
Right on the edge of Click Bait.
She potentially (non-zero chance) eloped with the prince of Persia.
I had a set of Amelia Earhart luggage that the airlines lost on a flight over the Atlantic. Coincidence?
As soon as I saw the sonar image I thought F86 Sabre or similar.
You won’t need to look for numbers on the wing. If you find a Lockheed 10 in the vicinity of Howland Island, that’s hers.
I can already tell you this isn't her plane. The image their ROV sent back is of a wreckage featuring a swept-wing design. It doesn't match her plane's design at all.
guy's you misheard them, they said terrifying not terrific smh what do you mean they clearly know what they are talking about
She was careless, reckless, and foolish, and she wound up getting herself and her copilot killed all in the name of trying to get some headlines. She’s exactly what a pilot shouldn’t be stripping the plane down for extra mileage and getting rid of the necessary navigational equipment is just plain suicidal..
For what it's worth, I enjoyed the Joe Klaas book, Amelia Earhart Lives. That's been the closest thing to believability I've run across.
There was a made for TV movie about her in the early 80s. Wish that I could find it.
"Don't look for me, look for my luggage!". -Red Buttons
I love how Murikans cannot use Months as a term for what period in the year it started. Its started in "Fall". Well fall is your Autumn, which for 1/2 of the world is our Spring. So what fucking month did it start in?
I named my daughter after this woman ✈️
Click bait rubbish-how do you conclude that an irregularity on a computer screen is Emilia Earharts plane????
Without going down to take an actual look at it how do you conclude it's not?
Yawn.....@@BillySBC
Hopefully this is it. I'll be shocked if intact completely!
Heh...
It was on Dilbert.
What about the photo of the Electra, wings off, on a barge behind a Japanese ship from a few years ago? I though they were executed and the custom Lockheed was taken to Japan for examination.
Good luck. Pray for all pilot's.
Earhart's deserved reputation as a poor pilot was given an extreme make-over as "history's greatest aviatrix" by her manipulative, publicity-hound of a husband, who cashed in on his wife's ambitious, if negligible flying abilities. If the blurry image near Holland Island does, in fact, belong to an aircraft, that means almost nothing in itself at this point, because many Japanese and U.S. warplanes went down in those same waters from 1941 to 1944. As the man says, no one can say for sure, until the side-scan sonar picks up an i.d. number from the sunken "airplane". Of all the numerous theories attempting to explain Earhart's disappearance, the most credible documents her last flight as an espionage mission on behalf of the U.S. Navy to photograph Japanese military installations at Holland Island. Her plane was shot down, but she survived until, after a few years in solitary confinement. Earhart was beheaded, her corpse shuffled into an unmarked grave, just before American forces invaded. Check it out.
Yes, That is true
Interesting but as so many have said “many we think we solved it stories” have preceded this one. Still it would be great to have this solved for all. I wonder the radio messages allegedly heard from her after she went down would I am guessing be inconsistent if the plane went down where they suggest i.e. in water that deep probably no where near shore. Could the Electra have floated and transmitted awhile and be heard on shortwave as far as Florida? Strange things happen but I got some big doubts one way or the other.
Awesome! About time. TIGARD messed thing up! I think she's east of Howland Island... but closed enough the USCG could hear her
A couple of other options that come to mind for that tail shape are a Kawasaki Ki-56 or a Mitsubishi G3M.
So you haven’t found her final resting place. She was a pioneer and a good pilot, but she couldn’t use a navigational radio and couldn’t make the trip solo.
I wonder. Certainly appears that Earhardt did create some very serious blunders for herself. If I recall .. seems like by far, the MOST serious was that she left or lost a major portion of an LF wire antenna back at Lae. Given the navigation criticalities for such an extremely difficult navigation problem, that she left that antenna behind ... for ANY reason, was inexcusable. As a pilot (retired) I'd have called off the entire thing, before leaving such a critical element behind like that. But, every day, almost every hour it seems now ... SOMEONE makes similar or worse critical flight decision like that. Flight in any machine is extremely unforgiving. At least somewhat shaky navigator, poor radio performance ... extremely difficult nav problem ... incomplete knowledge in some areas of the problem ?? Poor Amelia just built a pit for herself from which the outcome was very sad, but inevitable. It would seem that out of all the other outlandish, wishful thinking, dreamed up, even outrageous and virtually impossible imagined conclusions of this flight, the POSSIBLE location of this POSSIBLE airframe at the bottom of the ocean, seems the most likely and reasonable scenario. The image shape is absolutely indecipherable ... so far. As evidenced most recently, in odd Mars and moon images, our brains can make/create almost any reality, out of any shape, or arrangment of any objects. This image being no exception .... !!!
She did not leave the antenna behind. It was clearly visible in the video when she taxied out. But it was clearly missing on her take-off roll. She apparently ran over a hump in the ground or a pothole or something that snagged the receive antenna as she taxied out. With such a heavily loaded airplane it is understandable that she and her navigator did not feel or hear it happen. The receive antenna was mounted on the underbody of the aircraft, which was a terrible design flaw.
That sonar looks good
There is a bunch of evidence they already found evidence of the crash one of the islands of Kiribati, I bet that plane at the bottom of the sea is just some random WW2 wreck.
Oh good grief this again, they found Titanic they can find one lousy plane ?
Titanic was a bit larger and they knew roughly where it was. Roughly was a lot larger area than first thought.
She made it back to Burbank and is quietly living in Ojai, California in anonymity...
Up next, our crowd sourcing video. 😉
There's nothing like bringing this up. AGAIN!
SHE'S IN THE GRASSY KNOLL!
Are we all being sucked in again? If this a true find then I look forward to seeing underwater footage. Given all the maybe stories of the past near 90 years, why am I skeptical?
What a relief.
You might mention that your work is based upon years of work done by others. The other aspect, she wasn't the navigator. He great abilities as a pilot, could easily be overshadowed, by the extreme difficulties he (the navigator) faced to safely navigate a safe path, with limited fuel across the Pacific.
I don't think she'll hobble out the jungle, covered in bruises and ask "what took you guys so long?"
What jungle? Most tiny Pacific atolls had no vegetation or fresh water supplies.
She was using the wrong radio frequency
she was listening to Pete Myers on WINS New York......
It could potentially be a Mitsubishi G3M... there was a lot of activity in that area.
If the submersible had cameras, why are we only seeing a sonar scan???
They’re going back. Weather is often an issue.
This will be a WWII lost aircraft - not Earhart.