Because of Dr. Jenkin’s experience, I chose to buy a Magnuson supercharger for my 2019. This may be a first for a Whipple product but I’m glad that you reported your experience.
I've had nothing but trouble out of my 2.9 Whipple, from the tensioner going bad eating up belts to the whole damn thing needing a rebuild to having to have a customized reservoir tank made. Trouble nothing but.
I installed a 2.9 Whipple on a 5th gen Camaro it ran well for 4000 miles before the supercharger unit itself started having a mechanical issue. Whipple's customer support is a joke they seem to think they are above questioning and that their shit doesn't stink. I would never consider using one of their products again
After the 4th issue, (the actual rod that spins the compressors snapped) Whipple rebuilt the supercharger. I haven’t reinstalled it though. Car has been without issue since I removed the supercharger.
Im sorry to here that, i have a 2013zl1 after having a 19ss1le, i miss the 6th gen Chasis, but i love boost, what did you go with? Zero power adder or another brand?
Is that a 6 rib belt? Mine is 8 rib, on a Lightning setup, and it came with a little spacer you could use to get your belt to ride properly, if needed it goes behind the upper pulley.
I believe it was an 8 rib belt. The pulley was installed by Whipple's recommended tech twice during warranty repair and it kept failing. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. I had to remove the entire unit and send it in to Whipple. They rebuilt the entire unit but I have not reinstalled it in nearly two years. the car has been issue free without the Whipple. Clearly my unit was a lemon.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233 Drive shaft for the blower itself snapped? Somethings funky that should never happen I sure hope this time its ironed out and trouble free. IE is a long way from Del Rey. (In Hemet).
Long story made short: The belt tensioner failed three times, then the supercharger pulley bolts broke. Each time it was repaired by Whipple's guy. The supercharger shaft broke, then Whipple rebuilt the whole unit. It's been over a year and its still sitting in the box. I doubt I'l have it reinstalled. No issues at all from the car since removing the supercharger. I think an out-of-spec shaft was the issued all along. Hard to tell, hard to prove. I simply had a lemon unit. I'll never purchase another Whipple product. Even though they "fixed it" each time, dealing with them was not a pleasurable experience. They should have owned up to the fact that every now and then a unit is just a dud and replaced the whole thing.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233honest just sounds like a bad supercharger, whipple has been on thousands of cars for almost a century and they have always been the best of the best.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233 Had that problem wiht a trans, brand new 02 silverado back then .Same thing failed over and over, dealer patched it back together no change. Finally lawyered up got a brand new one and went another 160k no issues. Then it was stolen. Maybe just sell it if you dont trust it
Just saw this during my research as to buy a supercharger or not.Sorry for your problems.I hope Whipple steps up and gets you squared away Bro.I see you have another video so,I will watch that one as well.
Belt shredding is an alignment issue. Go up in rib and make sure its aligned. Seen same issue with vortec. Fixed alignment and bracing and trouble went away. Homemade brackets. And their tech support really sucked.
Sorry to hear this. I have a 2.9ltr whipple rear feed on my Daily driver installed in 2012 and been running great, I had it stripped down and all seals replaced in 2022 and runs like new. Only other issue was belt slip which I just throw a new belt on and the problem was solved.
I’ve never heard of issues like this with whipple. I wonder if any of it has to do with the install. I have a whipple and thousands of people have them and don’t hear about these issues. Sucks to hear you had problems.
Every mfr will have a certain % of units that have a problem no getting around it. They rebuilt his hopefully its right. Wondered about the install too. Had to be alignment, too much tension, something
It's hard for me to grasp that this is z mechanical parts issue and not an installation issue. So you're saying Whipple techs did the third install? Tell them to put a 10 rib system on it.
Whipple techs did the install twice under warranty and it still failed. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. What is so hard to believe about a unit being a lemon? It happens.
This dude is hilarious! Blaming the supercharger for obvious over tightening of the belt! Whipple send you a billet tensioner with a gauge on it and keep it at 100lbs pressure it won't kill the pulleys and belt! That fluid you're complaining about is from running it hot after your belt came off!! Whipple simply makes the best product! Any time I had an issue they overnighted me the part! Start trashing your mechanic with all that education lol!
Sounds like a belt alignement issue Wether one uses old V belts or serpentine they gotta be on the money or they will self destruct fast Sucks not being able to trust your car though. IE here also marina del rey is a nice change of scenery, lol
Take a look at what are the common factors in your setup. For example, you are blaming whipple for some reason. Are you getting the same shop to fix it everytime, same mechanic? After watching some vids on installing whipple on L's engines it appears the belt tensioner is not just a simple bolt on part like the oem is. Perhaps the installer is simply mixing the various bolts, nuts and spacers up. Having been a mechanic since 1975 I can tell you that a lot of mechanics may glance through instructions initially, but will not go back to the guide unless they think they screwed up. You obviously have a belt alignment issue or perhaps locktite was not used. If this was a design issue it would impact a high percentage of customers.
It wasn't belt slip. the pulley snapped off twice. Later the rod that spins the compressor broke. I think the rod was out of spec all along which caused all the other issues.
Are you running a Bolt on charger on the OEM Tensioner???? I'm only saying the first thing I would have done was deleted the power Stearing went manual gearbox..... And delete the A. C...... After market charger, after market tensioner, It Makes perfect sense to Me..... You know, they're twinzies.😂😂😂😂 If the tension is too tight, guess what that housing bearing for the main shaft it is not gonna last. I'm only saying I thoughthe tension on the drive.Pulley with a super charger was supposed to flap a little bit.Just a little you see what i'm saying as in not that much tension just enough to stay In time. I might have learned wrong but in my mind. It means perfect sense to me. Low tension low wear high tension. High wtake your car to a legit. Like widely renowned high performance technician and tell him to make it work. Go crazy, here's how much you got and don't skip you get what you pay for if they see you a tight a** They're gonna treat you like one and this is what you'll get 456 visits. You should have just paid the money up front and enjoyed Your baby You can't fake it till you make it.When you're paying big money you just need pay the Bill and the full bill instead Looking for knock off prices?I'll say one more time you get what you pay for if you've got a discount.You got a discount For a reason you probably obtained a rebuilt Unit, that was abused, you don't know. You got the discount right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Sadly, very light on details. The charger is having trouble but you are explaining to us about your brake rotors? I'd really like to hear "specifically" what it happening to the "pulley assembly".. I'm just hearing a lot of emotional distress without details. A (steady) closeup shot of the pulley issue would be fantastic. It's happened multiple times so you should be able to be specific, yes? Help us understand instead of just gassing off. Sorry. But it would be GR8T to know why you are trashing Whipple. 10,000 views and only 86 thumbs up in 2 years speakes volumes. Just saying. Cheers!
Hes not trashing them. Read his posts here. Eventually whipple fixed it and they reinstalled it, failed again. So its totally rebuilt and sitting in a box. He did his due diligence long before posting disappointment.
Take the car to late model performance of Maryland. Highest build quality they have some of the fastest ZL1s in the world. Maggy 2650 over a whipple all day
Whipple aka jamamactics. I left the tuner i was dealing with. After he recommend going with a Whipple. I told him I will never deal with a twin screw blower. Roots blowers are the best type of Possitve Displacement superchargers. And I have never had a problem with one. Some claim that twin screw blowers are more efficient. But a roots style with smaller rotors can make more power than a twin screw with a larger rotors. Whipple =😢 Magnuson =😊
I have installed many different forms of forced induction on many different vehicles and I have to say Whipple customer support is the worst I have ever seen. Recently installed a Whipple 2.9 on a 5th generation Camaro SS the vehicle logged about 4000 miles before the supercharger unit itself starting having an issue. Whipple seems to be under the illusion that they are above question and their shit doesn't stink. From my experience prochargers customer support is a hell of a lot better than Whipple's non-existent support
Whipple's tech repaired the pulley under warranty twice. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. I had to remove the entire unit and send it in to Whipple. They rebuilt the entire unit but I have not reinstalled it in nearly two years. the car has been issue free without the Whipple. Clearly my unit was a lemon.
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Because of Dr. Jenkin’s experience, I chose to buy a Magnuson supercharger for my 2019. This may be a first for a Whipple product but I’m glad that you reported your experience.
The mechanic didn't install the pulleys right they come with spacers that go behind the pullys if you don't install them right it will throw the belt
I've had nothing but trouble out of my 2.9 Whipple, from the tensioner going bad eating up belts to the whole damn thing needing a rebuild to having to have a customized reservoir tank made. Trouble nothing but.
I installed a 2.9 Whipple on a 5th gen Camaro it ran well for 4000 miles before the supercharger unit itself started having a mechanical issue. Whipple's customer support is a joke they seem to think they are above questioning and that their shit doesn't stink. I would never consider using one of their products again
@@turbojetpowered8299 worst customer service on the planet
So did Whipple ever get the belt issue fixed? Cause this is a absolute first time ever hearing a bad word about their supercharger
After the 4th issue, (the actual rod that spins the compressors snapped) Whipple rebuilt the supercharger. I haven’t reinstalled it though. Car has been without issue since I removed the supercharger.
Im sorry to here that, i have a 2013zl1 after having a 19ss1le, i miss the 6th gen Chasis, but i love boost, what did you go with? Zero power adder or another brand?
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233how much would you sell it for ?
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233smh sad situation
Is that a 6 rib belt? Mine is 8 rib, on a Lightning setup, and it came with a little spacer you could use to get your belt to ride properly, if needed it goes behind the upper pulley.
I believe it was an 8 rib belt. The pulley was installed by Whipple's recommended tech twice during warranty repair and it kept failing. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. I had to remove the entire unit and send it in to Whipple. They rebuilt the entire unit but I have not reinstalled it in nearly two years. the car has been issue free without the Whipple. Clearly my unit was a lemon.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233 Drive shaft for the blower itself snapped? Somethings funky that should never happen
I sure hope this time its ironed out and trouble free. IE is a long way from Del Rey. (In Hemet).
i had same problem the pullys dont line up took it to cravens in stlouse and they lazerd the pullys and its great
Justified frustration
Considering a Whipple stage 2 for 23 HC any advice ?
Good to know, Magnuson here I come.
bad belt tensioner call them and get them to fix it hopefully its not alignment issues.Had mine on my ss 10,000 miles no issues.
Long story made short: The belt tensioner failed three times, then the supercharger pulley bolts broke. Each time it was repaired by Whipple's guy. The supercharger shaft broke, then Whipple rebuilt the whole unit. It's been over a year and its still sitting in the box. I doubt I'l have it reinstalled. No issues at all from the car since removing the supercharger. I think an out-of-spec shaft was the issued all along. Hard to tell, hard to prove. I simply had a lemon unit. I'll never purchase another Whipple product. Even though they "fixed it" each time, dealing with them was not a pleasurable experience. They should have owned up to the fact that every now and then a unit is just a dud and replaced the whole thing.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233honest just sounds like a bad supercharger, whipple has been on thousands of cars for almost a century and they have always been the best of the best.
Have had mine for over a year no issues and I’m spinning it.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233 Had that problem wiht a trans, brand new 02 silverado back then .Same thing failed over and over, dealer patched it back together no change. Finally lawyered up got a brand new one and went another 160k no issues. Then it was stolen. Maybe just sell it if you dont trust it
Just saw this during my research as to buy a supercharger or not.Sorry for your problems.I hope Whipple steps up and gets you squared away Bro.I see you have another video so,I will watch that one as well.
Belt shredding is an alignment issue. Go up in rib and make sure its aligned. Seen same issue with vortec. Fixed alignment and bracing and trouble went away. Homemade brackets. And their tech support really sucked.
vortec has had that problem for so many yrs now..add real power the belt slips shreds, pow stuck again.
Hate the noise anyways
Sorry to hear this.
I have a 2.9ltr whipple rear feed on my Daily driver installed in 2012 and been running great, I had it stripped down and all seals replaced in 2022 and runs like new.
Only other issue was belt slip which I just throw a new belt on and the problem was solved.
Find what caused the belt to slip?
@gordocarbo No I just replace the belt every few years.
I’ve never heard of issues like this with whipple. I wonder if any of it has to do with the install. I have a whipple and thousands of people have them and don’t hear about these issues. Sucks to hear you had problems.
Bet its the install!
Going through belts that fast then snapping the shaft...thinking bad alignment issue.
Every mfr will have a certain % of units that have a problem no getting around it.
They rebuilt his hopefully its right. Wondered about the install too. Had to be alignment, too much tension, something
Never had a problem with mine Gen 4 2.9 2 years still going
What a nightmare. Nothing worse than dropping big $$$$$ and having reliability issues. Been in that boat. Actually currently in that boat sinking 🤕😂😂
It's hard for me to grasp that this is z mechanical parts issue and not an installation issue.
So you're saying Whipple techs did the third install?
Tell them to put a 10 rib system on it.
Whipple techs did the install twice under warranty and it still failed. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. What is so hard to believe about a unit being a lemon? It happens.
Damn some of yall are acting like the man Is lying about it. What's so hard to believe about the possibility of a defected product?
Install?
This dude is hilarious! Blaming the supercharger for obvious over tightening of the belt! Whipple send you a billet tensioner with a gauge on it and keep it at 100lbs pressure it won't kill the pulleys and belt! That fluid you're complaining about is from running it hot after your belt came off!! Whipple simply makes the best product! Any time I had an issue they overnighted me the part! Start trashing your mechanic with all that education lol!
Sounds like a belt alignement issue
Wether one uses old V belts or serpentine they gotta be on the money or they will self destruct fast
Sucks not being able to trust your car though. IE here also marina del rey is a nice change of scenery, lol
just need some honest reviews at times..! thanx
Is the whipple for sale ?
Yes. It's been rebuilt by Whipple. It's in a box in my garage.
Probably should have just bought a ZL1e!!
Take a look at what are the common factors in your setup. For example, you are blaming whipple for some reason. Are you getting the same shop to fix it everytime, same mechanic?
After watching some vids on installing whipple on L's engines it appears the belt tensioner is not just a simple bolt on part like the oem is. Perhaps the installer is simply mixing the various bolts, nuts and spacers up. Having been a mechanic since 1975 I can tell you that a lot of mechanics may glance through instructions initially, but will not go back to the guide unless they think they screwed up. You obviously have a belt alignment issue or perhaps locktite was not used.
If this was a design issue it would impact a high percentage of customers.
Get a Procharger!
10 Rib Belt = ZERO slip
It wasn't belt slip. the pulley snapped off twice. Later the rod that spins the compressor broke. I think the rod was out of spec all along which caused all the other issues.
@@dr.michaels.jenkinsjr.9233 If it had just a bit of runout that could cause issues.
Are you running a Bolt on charger on the OEM Tensioner????
I'm only saying the first thing I would have done was deleted the power Stearing went manual gearbox.....
And delete the A. C......
After market charger, after market tensioner, It Makes perfect sense to Me.....
You know, they're twinzies.😂😂😂😂 If the tension is too tight, guess what that housing bearing for the main shaft it is not gonna last. I'm only saying I thoughthe tension on the drive.Pulley with a super charger was supposed to flap a little bit.Just a little you see what i'm saying as in not that much tension just enough to stay In time. I might have learned wrong but in my mind. It means perfect sense to me. Low tension low wear high tension. High wtake your car to a legit. Like widely renowned high performance technician and tell him to make it work. Go crazy, here's how much you got and don't skip you get what you pay for if they see you a tight a** They're gonna treat you like one and this is what you'll get 456 visits. You should have just paid the money up front and enjoyed Your baby You can't fake it till you make it.When you're paying big money you just need pay the Bill and the full bill instead Looking for knock off prices?I'll say one more time you get what you pay for if you've got a discount.You got a discount For a reason you probably obtained a rebuilt Unit, that was abused, you don't know. You got the discount right😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Probably shouldn't have tightened up the belt so yight..or maybe used the wrong parts on ur engine
You sound silly
Y is that because the truth hurts of u being a dummy?😊
Sadly, very light on details. The charger is having trouble but you are explaining to us about your brake rotors? I'd really like to hear "specifically" what it happening to the "pulley assembly".. I'm just hearing a lot of emotional distress without details. A (steady) closeup shot of the pulley issue would be fantastic. It's happened multiple times so you should be able to be specific, yes? Help us understand instead of just gassing off. Sorry. But it would be GR8T to know why you are trashing Whipple. 10,000 views and only 86 thumbs up in 2 years speakes volumes. Just saying. Cheers!
Hes not trashing them. Read his posts here. Eventually whipple fixed it and they reinstalled it, failed again.
So its totally rebuilt and sitting in a box. He did his due diligence long before posting disappointment.
Take the car to late model performance of Maryland. Highest build quality they have some of the fastest ZL1s in the world. Maggy 2650 over a whipple all day
He does his own wrenching and is here in Ca. Maryland is another solar system away .lol
Whipple aka jamamactics.
I left the tuner i was dealing with. After he recommend going with a Whipple. I told him I will never deal with a twin screw blower.
Roots blowers are the best type of Possitve Displacement superchargers. And I have never had a problem with one.
Some claim that twin screw blowers are more efficient. But a roots style with smaller rotors can make more power than a twin screw with a larger rotors.
Whipple =😢
Magnuson =😊
Nonsense! Twin screws are FAR more efficient and run at a lower temp than roots blowers.
Roots arent nearly as efficient as the whipple. Theres a reason Mercury Marine has been using them forever
I have installed many different forms of forced induction on many different vehicles and I have to say Whipple customer support is the worst I have ever seen. Recently installed a Whipple 2.9 on a 5th generation Camaro SS the vehicle logged about 4000 miles before the supercharger unit itself starting having an issue. Whipple seems to be under the illusion that they are above question and their shit doesn't stink. From my experience prochargers customer support is a hell of a lot better than Whipple's non-existent support
Should of bout zl1
Misaligned
So the Whipple tech's misaligned it twice? It was a bad unit period.
hey sir, whats the outcome of your whiple ?
Whipple's tech repaired the pulley under warranty twice. Later the rod that spins the compressors snapped. I had to remove the entire unit and send it in to Whipple. They rebuilt the entire unit but I have not reinstalled it in nearly two years. the car has been issue free without the Whipple. Clearly my unit was a lemon.
They should just send you a new unit instead of rebuilding yours...
Hope you can enjoy the supercharger power without issues in the future. 👍🏽