Exploring Rail Manufacturing in the Western US!
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
- Welcome back! Today I’ve got a video showing you a glimpse at the state of passenger rolling stock manufacturing in the western United States! I hope you enjoy this video, and stay tuned, because there are many more construction update videos to come!
Video links:
Brightline Extension Overview: • Brightline Orlando Ext...
Last Year’s Factory tour: • HITACHI - BOMBARDIER -...
Last Year’s Caltrain Update: • Caltrain Electrificati...
Last year’s LA Metro Purple Line Update: • LA Metro PURPLE LINE (...
Most recent R211 video: • Hunting for R211 subwa...
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Timestamps:
0:00 Siemens
7:22 Bombardier
8:50 Stadler
10:47 CRRC Sifang
12:31 Nippon Sharyo
13:12 Kawasaki
14:00 Kinki Sharyo
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The Stadler units look so much more contemporary and European than nearly anything else!
They sure do!
@@TheFourFoot I see! Will there be more M8 EMUs being delivered?
Even though the development of Siemens in North America paced my career in transit it still amazes me to see the level that they have reached. When we opened light rail in Edmonton in 1978 Siemens was dragged in to represent DueWag, the German carbuilder of the Frankfurt U-Bahn cars that our team had concluded were the best product available. The Province of Alberta made sure that Calgary bought sister cars. At first we and they feared ending up with orphans and then when San Diego also chose sister cars we allowed ourselves to think that someday there would be a replacement market in North America. Thanks for showing us that the market is bigger than we had imagined. And of course there are more possibilities ahead.
(I'll always remember the August 1978 ride to the stadium after the crowd going to the opening ceremonies of the Commonwealth Games had cleared. Passing the old Cromdale carbarn I realized that it was completely empty = 100% availability of a fleet that had only been in revenue service for 3½ months, while rows of defective transit cars were lined up out of service in American cities.)
Fascinating stuff! Thanks a lot for sharing!
Lol and I'm here complaining about the U-Bahn cars in Frankfurt. Didn't know they were considered better than passable by anyone.
@@lars7935 Remember, that was a long time ago. The main issue then was reliability; the Siemens--DueWag cars definitely outshone the alternatives.
@@rwrynerson Well they certainly are reliable. I think some of the are still running on some tram lines during rush hour.
THis was terrific to see!! Gives me pride seeing American made trains!
It’s a beautiful thing!
There was 0.00 American companies in this video. Nothing to be proud of.
@@z00h yeah because American companies don't make good products. At least they are being made here.
@@losh330 it actually hurts the railroads that stuff is made here more than it helps them, as mentioned in the video.
All of the American companies went bankrupt and folded. None of the companies are American it is sad. The Chinese are building here as well
The VIA chargers are absolutely stunning, they did the front end right on them and the paint is beeeeautiful! Way better than any of the American looks for sure!
The first Sound Transit LRVs were delivered and began testing back in late 2018/early 2019. Sound Transit identified issues they did not like (I don’t know what they were) and began refusing deliveries until those problems were resolved by Siemens. Deliveries were stalled for well over a year and only started back up in May this year, but Siemens kept manufacturing the order in the interim hence why they have such a huge backstock of Sound Transit LRVs.
That makes sense. Thanks! I know based on problems that Kawasaki had with WMATA that transit agencies can be very particular lol
@@TheFourFoot When they have to use the cars for 30 or 40 years they can't afford not to be!
Maybe they will go back to Kinki Sharyo for the next order...
In the Siemens factory there were multiple instances of there being San Francisco MUNI S200 light rail sets (varying from half finished to only being a skeleton structure). You can tell because of the really angular fronts and the door placement, which is very different from the S700s
Yeah you’re right. I was thinking that, but I didn’t want to be wrong lol
Calgary Transit just commissioned the last S200 (slightly different from the S200 SF) of its first 69 car order, and another smaller order will be built in Sacramento within the next couple of years.
Well it's about time John! lol welcome back. I like how Siemens' parking lot has solar panels over the parking spaces.
Thanks! I know lol. But it was a nice little break!
@@TheFourFoot When are you making updates to CAHSR???
As a Canadian I'm still butthurt about Alstom's takeover of Bombardier Transportation lol. I really like your drone footage. Great video!
Why? Bombardier was turning into a disaster. Alstom is far superior.
Interesting. Was wondering today when I sat in a new double decker train, next to a little manufacturer's sign "Bombardier", it had another little manufacturer sign "Electrical installation by Alstom". Think I missed the take-over. Bit funny that: they get rid of passenger aircraft production because it was not a core business, then they sell their train production... what do they have left, corporate jets? O.o
I have a different point of view. A German one to be precise. Bombardier was a nightmare. They just bought up everything in Europe without a plan or clue.
Siemens on the other hand was calculating and planning for years and then trying to get their acquisition of DUEWAG working within the business structure. This process took them over 10 years and created a few pretty shitty products. Bombardier on the other hand was kinda overwhelmed with the product portfolio they inherited with their shotgun-style acquisition and killed several products immediately. This is also a government failure, since both manufacturers of bi-level cars ended up with Bombardier, killing competition in the German market and in Europe. The saddest thing is that Bombardier killed all of the very small rail vehicle products like the DWA LVT/S line.
Other factories and their product lines were planned to be killed but had to be sold due to monopoly regulations. Stadler bought them all.
Another factory was sold and a few years later 8 factories in Europe were closed. Three of them were based in Germany. Another one followed 6 years later.
They even moved their headquarters 3 times... just chaos everywhere.
The production was always a nightmare. Everything was late. Most rolling stock was underperforming or not even usable at all. Quality problems were just the norm.
This turned so bad, that operators in Germany tried everything to avoid Bombardier. But since Europe is a mess of different power systems, train control systems, national regulations, and so on, this was not easy.
But over time, Bombardier managed to lift a lot of foreign manufacturers into the German market, due to their own incompetence. The list contains Stadler from Switzerland, Pesa from Poland, Skoda from the Czech Republic, Talgo from Spain, CAF from Spain and Alstrom from France.
This put even more pressure on their overstretched production network. To make matters worse the German city of Leipzig privatized its tram factory. And "Heiter Blick" turned into a true rival to Bombardier... with some 90 employees.
Bombardier was awesome at burning money and customer relations.
Siemens had plans to merge with Alstom since Bombardier was seen as a major risk. The EU vetoed the deal, citing a future horrible monopoly situation. Alstom/Siemens would have been the competent manufacturer, while Bombardier would have been the slowly dying zombie.
Alstom has to rebuild this ruin of a company and still has to sell 2 factories with the corresponding products to satisfy monopoly regulations.
The Hennigsdorf plant (Germany) produces the Talent 3 Series. The factory needs to be split and the Talent 3 part sold.
The Reichshoffen plant (France) produces the Alstom Coradia Polyvalent and needs to be sold completely.
There is a problem with this. Neither Stadler nor Siemens could make use of these products. The same goes for Pesa, Talgo, CAF, Skoda, and Hitachi Rail Italy.
So who is left? No one. Toshiba seems unwilling to set up more than a locomotive factory. The only company interested is Skoda... but this does not make sense, since Talent 3 and the Corodia Polyvalent are redundant to their own Regiopanter series.
The Talent series was originally developed by Talbot, which survived Bombardier's management by revolting to leave the company before Bombardier could close the factory.
Talbot is a shadow of its former self and unable to buy such a factory. Heiter Blick is way too small. And the other smaller manufacturers went bankrupt.
To sum this up:
Bombardier created a mess within the industry, a mess for riders, a mess for operators and the 2 factories to be sold could turn into another mess.
@@simplon--b6538 The creation of Adtranz and its rather quick sale was the beginning of the end of the diversified european industry. The complete swiss rail industry died within a heartbeat. And with swiss rail industry I mean SLM, SIG, Schindler/SWS. It took Stadler years to single-handedly rebuild the entire industry (partly by buying up all the remnants of the former companies).
Bombardier was for a long time the closest we had to an American builder.
Thank you for this excellent view into American railcar manufacturing. It gives me great hope for the future of our country.
I hope so!
Just a quick correction. Via Rail is pronounced “Vee -ah.”
Ha yeah, I know, I remembered that when I was editing. My bad lol
Yup
@@TheFourFoot And Stadler is pronounced Shtadler ;-)
Yeah I got a bunch of crap for pronouncing it that way last year lol
Siemens is pronounced Zeemans.
OC Streetcar! Yessss
Woooo lol
Another great video! So exciting to see that quantity of rolling stock either finished or under construction!
Thanks! It sure is!
Once the Orlando extension of Brightline opens, they said that their rolling stock will more than double, going from 5 trainsets with 4 coaches each to 10 trainsets with 7 coaches each.
I know it has been a while, but it was nice to see Metro Transit cars in the Siemens lot. Metro Transit serves Minneapolis/St. Paul.
I really love the look of those new Seattle LRV’s. Overall they always had a great livery, but the new ones make it feel even nicer. Plus that system overall is an extremely good model for here in Auckland going forward.
I visited in 2016 and rode it end to end.
Enormously interesting to see all this, thanks a lot.
Being employed in the city of Redlands over the last decade, I’ve watched that right of way go from empty, to track laying, to signal crossing and are looking forward to eventual implementation. Keep us all posted!
Yeah that’s awesome. It’s a pretty neat project! I completely missed the whole downtown San Bernardino station extension, because that track wasn’t there when I was working out there, but that’s already like 6 years old! Lol
@@TheFourFoot
I’ve lived here all my life, drive through Cajon and past the San Bernardino rail station everyday and have never been there… go figure. Have just gotten in deep to all things rail over the last 2 years and I’m soaking in and learning from all of you who’ve done the work to inform us. 2-weeks ago spent several days in Seattle with my teenage daughter having no car and using light rail… she sees urban light rail as key to solutions in a future of renewables and urban living. Keep up the great work showing the public how many companies and agencies are vested into this future.
Thanks! Yeah there’s a lot to learn about rail transit in this country (I certainly still am!) Seattle has the money and the plans, they just can’t build fast enough. I’m planning on going there soon for the first time, definitely looking forward to it!
Another awesome video. Thanks. Looking forward to the California updates.
Very good video about Manufacturing rail transport
I got another one there is an Alstom facility in Vallejo, CA's Mare Island District. Alstom is assembling some of Los Angeles Metro's Light Rail cars. There was a Massachusetts facility that assembles some of Los Angeles Subway Cars at one point prior to having their rail supply contracts to Alstom's Northern California facility.
Thanks for the information about the railroad plants of the western US! I, for one, did not know that Stadler has already begun construction of the _Arrow_ cars!
This is great to see-mayb expand manufacturing of trains say in the Midwest or the south!!!!
At the Siemens yard take a look at that siding on the street across from the nets, the rail is from 2005 yet all the switches are torn up.
Looking forward to your San Bernardino video. I heard about the project there.
Great Video!, I like that VIA Rail SC-44 is there and possibly the rest of the first matching trainset seen in at the 4:16 mark? I'm guessing the VIA Rail set is the only large Canadian order (1 or 22) there?
Would you know if someone has made a video on Rail Manufacturing in Canada, specifically in Ontario and Quebec for 2021? I know we have Alstom and formally Bombardier (in Thunder Bay, ON) and the closed former EMD locomotive factory in London, Ontario. Has any rail manufacture looking to buy that plant and restart manufacturing locomotives or build commuter train sets like in the video?
they might've built more Amtrak ALC-42 Chargers and more brightline trainsets
10:40 The "cta" font in the San Bernardino County Transit Authority is almost identical to the Chicago Transit Authority's. Chicago's leans a little to the right- 14:55
Yes, Alc-42 and Via rail SC-44 is almost complete
1:03 can't wait to see those new S70s for Houston!
They look pretty awesome!
If the unfinished LRV bodys have a blue stripe at the bottom, they're for Sound Transit
That’s what I was thinking lol
I have a few (very pixelated) pictures of light rail trains at the Kinki Sharyo factory. It's near the "skunk works," a facility that designs and builds top secret government and military aircraft. I think you'd get in serious trouble for flying a drone anywhere near there, since it's not just an ordinary airport.
Rebuilding is not done at French Road, rather, at the McClellan site on the other side of town.
Ah, my bad. Thanks for the info!
Brightline is purchasing 5 more trainsets, but with 2 additional cars and also are having 10 more cars made to upgrade the current sets to 6 cars + 2 loco's. Also if I'm not mistaken Alsthom recently purchased both Bombardier and Siemens.
Alstom didn't buy Siemens Mobility, it proposed a merger but it was halted by the EU because it would become too big and outcompete all other manufacturers.
@@Tiger313NL Except, of course, CRRC would still have been bigger.
Portland Oregon had a light rail plant. Built some cars for Portland and a couple other cities.
Test track can be seen on Google Maps, look east of Hwy 205 and north of State Hwy 212-224, in Clackamas Oregon.
United Streetcar, LLC, built cars for Portland, Tucson, and D.C. Their whole selling point was the streetcars being made in the US, though the cars were essentially domestic copies of Škoda 10 T.
I'm guessing that Sound Transit is having some delivery issues, likely because of the lack of capacity on the coast? I recently saw a unit on the back of a semi heading the wrong way towards east on I84 in central Oregon. Got no clue why...
The chargers at 2:30 look more like ALC-42s to me and at 3:20 there seem to be 3 phase VII chargers
Please keep in mind that a lot of the time the reason why there are so many cars on site (Siemens), not delivered as of yet, is because the customer is not ready to take delivery of their cars. Many customers are in the process of constructing maintenance buildings and have to make space available to receive their new cars and sometimes there are construction delays, etc. with these new facilities and their light rail lines. It's actually not a simple easy process of just ordering cars and taking delivery as the cars are built, some of the more established customers can do this but others cannot. There is a pretty wide spread between those customers that are well established and have a dedicated funding source and those that do not and rely on various grants and piece-meal funding.
I’m from OC and am in Santa Ana often. Would love to see a video about the project.
Awesome! It’ll be a bit, but it’s coming lol
Sorry being late to the party, but Sound Transit ordered at least 150 new Siemens S700 vehicles for the East Link Extension and Lynnwood Extension on the existing line. The original fleet from Japan has only 63 vehicles which are obviously not enough to run through this rapid expansion transit.
Fun fact about the ST S700s: They used the traction package found on the Japanese fleet instead on other S70(0)s in the rest of the nation. In addition, they will be powered by 1500V DC electric overhead wires instead of 750V DC.
What a neat video! Thanks for all the great content, John!
I have question or two if I may. It looks like there are a lot of I guess panel track with railcars or locomotives on it. Do you know why they store things that way and how they move things around? Is it just more efficient to store things on wheels on tracks than on blocks with trucks and wheels stored elsewhere? (Examples at 1:23, 2:42, 3:48-4:15.)
Thanks again!
It might be those car bodies are designed that they should be supported on the places those bogies are, directly put the bodies somewhere can cause damage to the equipments installed on the bottom of the car and even the bodies. So even if the bogies are not there, some support have to be installed to support the car body on the same place. Then simply use the bogies produced for the same car to support the car body might be the most effective solution.
I’d agree, I’m sure it’s just better for the cars to be stored that way. I would imagine they probably transload them on and off the tracks with trailers.
The panel track your referring to is called "snap track" and its used to store the rail cars when they're outside of the buildings on the asphalt/concrete areas and not on the test track (which is the track adjacent to the UP railroad tracks). Once the wheels (bogies) have been installed on the cars they must be placed on track, either actual rail or on snap track. It's easier to transport the vehicles around the site when they have they're bogies installed. The only time they use blocks for storage is when it's just a car shell.
@@brimstonebrimstone8617 Thank you for your reply! It looks like they would still have to lift the vehicles off the snap tracks to move them -- they are tracks to nowhere. Do the wheels/bogies/trucks come up with vehicles, or do they lift and move them separately?
@@queens.dee.223 they have this really cool machine called a transporter, you can see it in the video when they're showing all the locos on the railroad track at 3:47 and 4:07, it's on the asphalt next to the trains, it's orange (I know that doesn't help much). It was originally designed to transport small to medium size boats at boat yards, it has like 15 wheels on each side that turn independently and it lowers down on one end and it has track rails in it and a cable winch and it pulls the train up into it and then transports them around the site. It's radio controlled, the operator has this box hanging down from his neck with a lot of buttons and switches and that's how he operates it. It moves at a walking pace and the transportation dept moves all the vehicles (locos, coaches and LRV's) around all day, rain or shine, they walk about 12 miles a day.
I can also see with Stadler Salt Lake City getting some orders of their Eurodual 9000s for CSX UP CN CP BNSF & Norfolk Southern if interested
Quick Question, John, will the R211 come into service next year?
I would imagine so. DJ hammers has you covered there, though. I believe they just started testing
Great footage of these plants creating the future passenger engines of America! (Even though they're designed by foreign companies...[with the exception of Progress Rail/EMD and GE/Wabtec/MPI])
Yeah, American companies definitely have the ability, they just need the will (and the contracts). We don’t need any more F125 situations…
@FPK
Well, with Siemens, their rolling stock is generally of a modular design, modified for regional markets. The ACS is a Vectron with a different body, the Charger is essentially a diesel Vecron with just one cab, the venture coaches are modified Railjet equipment, and light rail tends to be the same internationally. What the US gets usually is little more than derivatives of rolling stock developed in the EU.
@FPK
No doubt the chassis are generally completely redesigned to comply with US crash regulations, but most development work is normally focused on moving parts such as bogies and the technology inside, that being motors, software, computers etc. (though I do believe parts of that are new for the Chargers). I don't think PTC would have been much of an issue, in most European countries safety systems that can independently brake the train have been universally introduced starting in the late 50s, and I've no doubt that PTC shares many similarities to how those systems (such as the German PZB) work with the railway equipment.
@FPK This is very true, all of Siemens' North American customers have a lot of input into the final design.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 And for that matter, Siemens has also been supplying both GE and EMD in the area of bogies and electrical equipment for years.
Remember when United Streetcar was around...?
The ones that you called chargers are alc42s
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You seem to know a thing or two about drone flying my question is what organizations/people do you have to get approval from to fly the drone? Are these approvals required on a per flight basis?
ASSEMBLED in the US.
that is a Tram.you see them mutch in Europe,lol.see Den Haag HTM and Amsterdam,GVB.
We need someone like you in the UK besides Geoff Marshall to go see the London Underground 2024 stock plant
A smaller channel I’ve recently found is G Loves Trains. She was at the Class 777 unveiling, maybe she can get on the drone game lol
@@TheFourFoot I'm just so greedy to see new tube trains
What about Alstom in New York
I don't think you stated, what were the LRVs sandwhiching that VIA Charger at 2:22, are those the new low-floor LRVs we're supposed to be getting here in Sacramento in the next couple years? The color scheme looks right for the blue line.
I believe those are Minneapolis. They’re currently expanding their system and I really need to make a video on it.
The Sacramento cars are in the very early stage of manufacturing (welded carshells) as of 12/2021, the Sac cars will be identical to the San Diego design, Sac is actually piggy-backing on to the San Diego contract. The Sac color scheme will be blue and black.
Delivering San Francisco Muni Siemens LRV4 2069-2118 & 2119-2219
is that a new paintscheme on the surfliner chargers or just unfinished lol
They aren't Surfliner Chargers, they are ALC-42s in the unfinished base scheme. He misidentified them.
They aren't Surfliner's, they're actually Amtrak locos. Amtrak has had a number of different paint schemes with they're first 10 locos (3 different paint schemes as well as an all black 50th anniversary Heritage edition - loco 2).
Via Rail SCV-42 #2206 awaiting paint.
Bombardier being empty is making me think that Alstom is wrapping them up, didn't Alstom swallow bombardier whole?
It could be. I don’t know much about the merger, but that could definitely be part of it.
#604 the Black Chargers are going to EXO rail in Canada
The Four Foot, what are those things under the tarps at 13:29?
Those are LIRR M9 car bodies. The car bodies are fabricated in Lincoln, then trucked to New York to be finished.
@@TheFourFoot LIRR = Long Island Rail Road
Yes
@@TheFourFoot Thanks! LIRR also says that they should rebuild 100 M3s to keep them until 2024, right?
I'm surprised how small the plants are. We should triple production. A new train is a benefit to society, it wouldn't be hard to build more quality modern trains!
You mean "assembled I'm wester US", right?
Anything on Valley Metro Siemens?
Short answer, yes lol. I’ve got the footage already shot for videos on northwest phase 2, south central, and the Tempe streetcar. I can promise when I’ll get them edited though lol
@@TheFourFoot I can’t wait. I walk past the S Central extension every day going into work and I’m very impatient but I understand construction isn’t an overnight job.
2:31 those are long distance chargers, not surfliner
The Siemens ACL-42's can recover energy normally lost during dynamic braking...Why hasn't this feature been incorporated into freight locomotives?
Usually because they don't have any way to store the energy (namely large and very powerful batteries). This type of system is very common on electric locomotives, but almost unheard of with diesel locomotives.
@@mikeblatzheim2797 Adding batteries to recover energy during breaking makes more sense than the delusion of pure BEV freight locomotives being tested currently..you'll have to have battery "tenders" for that to work...large ones!
Freight locos don't brake very often due to the nature of their long routes, so it doesn't pay to have that feature. However, light rail service brakes quite often as station stops are closer together.
@@brimstonebrimstone8617 Heavy freight trains in "murica" especially in the western part of the country, use their dynamic breaks quiet a bit. As there are lots of down grades there..
musing whether channeler'll ever become inclined to ditch its waffling, corporateered mesmerism
We need to talk the next time you get to San Jose/San Francisco.
Noted lol
VIA is canadian they have ordered a big bunch of engines
How are the trains delivered from the manufacturing site to the customer?
Depends on each train type, either by truck, moved directly on rail, or moved on rail flat cars.
All of the locos and coaches are delivered by rail, UP comes and picks up either individual locos or a trainset of coaches (4 coaches) or a trainset of locos and coaches all depending on whether the customer has ordered locos, coaches or both. All of the light rail vehicles are delivered by flatbed truck.
What is UP?
@@leeshaoloung7302 UP is the Union Pacific railroad.
Via SCV-42 #2204 awaiting paint.
I wouldn't call Hart vehicles light rail just like Vancouver's sky train isn't light rail.
Eh, the term light rail is largely inconsequential as it is. Tomato, tomato…
@@TheFourFoot Light rail more often than not has level crossings with city streets, low floor vehicles, street running, and no automated trains. I know there are exceptions like Chicago El and Ottawa Confederation line but not in this case. Also since it uses 3rd rail power, it's closer in definition to the Copenhagen metro which is a light metro service.
Assembled in America doesn’t change the fact that the manufacturer is a foreign company.
And the products are largely derived from foreign models...
The State of Connecticut M8 EMU units should have the New CT rail Paint Scheme. Why aren’t’t they???
rip bombardier
Now, if we could just build more dedicated routes to run them...
Yeahhhhh
Likely that opportunity has passed for a national network because land, building costs and especially construction time have grown exponentially since 1960.
Everytime anyone turns a shovel there are lawsuits filed. The only way i could see it economically is if the rails were placed alongside existing interstates... But due to grades trucks can do, but trains can't... That too is a challenge.
The best chance a national infrastructure ground up system would have is to abandon the idea of interstate rail must go into big cities 1925 style.
If all rail was rural, with free car park lots on stations outside the developed cities or near rural airports where land is cheaper and lines can be straighter.
Cities would then be tasked with building their own train or bus spurs if they want to utilize their classical stations.
@@STho205 I agree that some new lines should avoid routing into urban areas, unless there is an existing R.O.W. that can be untilized...
There are many abandoned routes that could be used also.
@@timnewman1172 more than just the cost is the stations should be where the most likely passengers live. We only have three mega cities in the US, and only 11 or 12 with city limit populations over a million....plus there is an exodus trend now. So that means over 230,000,000 people live in suburbs, or near small towns.
Those that live in major cities often are not the core of potential business and family class travellers. Most big city executives still live in burbs in the outer metro...often in competing counties.
Getting home from a interstate trip means ... Going home... Which likely means departing from home.
It makes no sense for a person living in Suburb X to have to drive deep into the CBD through an hour of choking traffic to pay $20 a day for parking, go through a slum with luggage, board a train, that then spends 35 minutes whizzing past their home, and then reverse the process at thr other end. Return trip is the same.
Musk was right, trains leave when you don't want to, from places you don't want to go, to places you don't want to be, at times you don't like. That's the big city model from 1925 when travellers lived in or only a few miles from the CBD
Cities also suck up schedule time. Whenever an AmTrak I'm on heads into a big city it takes FOREVER... but the rural stations are 5-15 minutes. Stop and load.
Railroad lobbies are making it hard on themselves. Air and highways worked TOGETHER in the last century.... Which is why we live where we live.
@@STho205 connecting with the airport like Brightline is doing in Orlando is one solution... Although the "Amshacks" aren't the answer, most stops do not require large, cavernous terminals either.
No sign of Venture streamlined cab cars yet.
Go Lincoln
Is that where Hitachi makes the magic wand?
It's such a shame about Nippon Sharyo USA. I've always been pleased with their vehicles, and they have great designs, especially for HSR. I'm sure the new California bilevels would have been great too, but they got screwed by the FRA's insane requirements. Thankfully the US seems to be slowly coming around to building around crumple zones instead of making everything a tank on rails. Too late for Nippon Sharyo though. =(
The Venture cars look like they're gonna be great, but I love being on the upper level when I'm on a longer trip with the nice views, or on the lower level if I want to nap and have less foot traffic going by me, and the extra capacity means you don't have to have the typical American insane platform lengths.
the USA needs more forensic stations for the passengers.keep yor car at home and go greene.see the EU.
German factory !!
Pretty disappointing that there aren’t any American companies. We used to be the best when it came to trains.
Only recent American train companies are the Brookville Streetcar (uses Czech design I think), ProgressRail (Caterpillar owned company rebuilding locomotives or making new ones for commuter lines), Colorado Car Company (building observation cars), and one major is Bombardier being prevalent in many transit systems in the US and Canada, though German-Canadian brand before being merged into Alstom (French).
Best? Debatable, but highly influential very true
Things haven't been the same since Budd Company stopped making rail diesel cars...Buddliners.
Really, not since Morrison Knudsen stopped making railcars...
Yeah that CRRC Building is new to Chicago. They actually built it to build the new 7000 Series for The CTA and bring rail manufacturing back to Chicago. We were at one time kings of manufacturing trains until everything went overseas when it got too expensive to build in America. I guess that's what Trump meant that it's difficult but has to be done. Sure it's expensive but it brings jobs to those who need it the most so they can have a roof over their family heads. I'm personally against it because it's too expensive to build here on American Soil and thanks to years of not manufacturing here there's not many people qualified to do these construction jobs. We have to get colleges to add train construction back and heavily promote and encouraging people that taking the train to work is a better option than driving to work and in the long run cheaper too. I just can't see this being all too successful.
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see the Dutch Dubbeldekker the Virm 6,beter then the US stadler,they are to big,whe have the better one,believe me,its excelent to make a ride,coool.
Ironically you can't take a train to the manufacturing facilities...
Drone shots of the parking lot is not much of an exploration.
yes,Siemens is the best,German quality.the Masters.
Yes! you can't beat German engineering! Siemens is knocking out of the park here in Sacramento, it's amazing what they've done with this facility and what they've done with sales in the US. They basically started this facility to manufacture the light rail cars for the Sacramento starter line back in 1987 and since then have won so many light rail contracts to supply cars for many cities all across North America. in 2012 they started building locos and they recently won a $4 billion contract to provide 100 locos and 300 coach cars to Amtrak (with potential for additional options). And in 2016 they started building the Venture coach cars as well. It's an amazing facility and an amazing business success story.
Stadler, with their Flirt, Kiss Citylink, Metro and Tina models has managed to win quite a few tenders in Germany and Austria, markets typically dominated by Siemens before. Siemens still builds excellent trains, like the Railjet and ICE models, but it definitely got a bit of competition lately, even in their home markets.
See, we can invest in rail afterall, can Europeans please stop making fun of us?
Not as long as European based companies keep making the equipment. The US-based plants aren't fooling anyone!
Labor is not a factor in cost. Nothing made in China is cheaper. The only difference is the amount of profits that go into someones pockets. The selfish love Chinese slaves.