I think the smaller engines are better for most weekend warriors. A lot of would be motocross stars all went out and bought 450 4 strokes but found they controll the power. I think the same thing goes for most weekend "enduro" fans. They don't have the skills or finesse to master a 300cc "race ready" 2 stroke. Most of their encounters with obstacles are on trails were they can ride around so they don't need all that power and the 200 is far more flickable. I have an ancient air head PE 175 that I prefer for trail riding over the Hair on Fire 250 4 stroke I own.
Finally! Great job and review. Love my 200rr. It's WAY more fun than my old 300, and more than capable than me. But maybe more importantly, it's easier to ride and I don't get fatigued as quick as my old 300. The ONLY time I wish it had more power is above 10,000+ feet (Which I rarely ride). Looking forward to more 200 and small bore videos. Especially a 200 vs 300 lap times. You should have a lower skilled rider do that also. I think I'd be faster on my 200 than a 300.
I owned a te150i and a te300i. The 150 was a great bike for learning the clutch and finding my balance but it got progressively harder to get better on. Before I owned either Husky I had a KTM 200 and that bike was my favorite thing since waffles.
I have a 22 200 race edition, what you gain in fun and rideability over the 300 is great as an intermediate rider... Really feels like you are able to use the potential of the 200 but you have to stay sharp on gear selection and rpm, especially in technical riding. A great all round bike for the average rider, it really raised the fun factor coming off a 300.
As a fan of the old Kawasaki kdx200 and 220 I can relate to the small bore feel and the fun factor it brings. Would love to see you comparison test them
Im with you, i have only just parted with my dt200r which i would often take out on my enduro rides over my beta 300rr. I only sold it because it was getting knocked around and was hard to get oem parts. I may need a 200rr.
I have two kdx's an 87 and an 02. I love them both but the old air hammer at almost 30+labs lighter is my hard enduro rig. Thinking the grass was greener i bought a 2021 yz250x and haven't touched it now since December 2021. I kick myself daily for not looking into a beta 200 or reiju 200 ranger. Loved the video rich... Keep em coming.
As mentioned elsewhere a 200 vs 300 video would be quite interesting. Adding B and C class riders to the test would really help us mere mortals in relating to how these bikes compare. As an older rider who still loves technical terrain I fully admit my 300 can get away from me at times as the power far exceeds my requirements in most situations.
I backed down to a sherco 250 I do miss my 300 when racing the young guys but I'm 60hrs in and it hasn't bit me yet... with plenty of opportunities. Smack a tree and open the throttle all the way it still stays under me. Same goes for some killer hill climbs. The 300 got me quite a few times and made me way more tired just from the extra torque.
@woodysrockspyro6436 Agree with your thoughts Woody. I'm not in peak shape nor haven't ridden most of your life, my 300 had me fatigued in 30min. On the smaller bore bikes I can focus on technique and just have more fun. That was a tough pill for me to swallow but now I'm over it and enjoying the ride so much more.
I ride a 98 KTM 200exc with an fmf gnarly pipe, flywheel weight and 12/50 gearing, I love it, I ride mostly slow tech like creek beds and have never felt in need of more power. One big advantage is through different clutch springs, spring spacers and a 9mm master I have been able to get the clutch pull down to 6lb's which is amazing, it almost feels broken it's so light, never get arm pump in the hard stuff on that bike.
Arrgh! Jonny Walker and now Rich Larson! You guys are gonna cost me another twelve grand! Love my big bore Yamaha WR 450 and my new 2023 Beta 300 RR, now I’m hurtin for a light weight 200. The dead spot is probably just a jetting issue that should be easily resolved . Yeehaa! Variety is the spice my friends! Thanks for the video Rich!
The bike just felt lazy especially when I started lugging and then needed more throttle. Checked the spark plug and sure enough it was black. I used the jetting table in the users manual and ordered right sizes and the "dead zone" is way less noticeable and spark plug is nice and golden brown now. The list of mods: dented the radiators to get a tighter turning radius, pegs that are lower and to the rear, 9mm clutch pump and after market clutch discs since I had the "squeal" which could be heard on hard launches for long climbs with very little run up. Also I use 13/49 sprockets and tried 12/49 but since the gearbox seems to lave lower ratios it was useless on long and loose climbs. Overall I am glad I went with this bike for now.
Man, I love watching you ride. You make it look so easy. Flawless. I look like a tornado trying to stationary balance on my trials bike. You barely move.
@@bbarker5766 I think that knowing the reason why did he/she decided to get both is useful... I find it hard to believe that there's no good reason for getting both
I guess you have never rode a properly set up KDX 200. I love my KDX's 3-88's and 1-06. These bikes never die. You need to include a 06 KDX 200 with an updated suspension to compare old vs the new bikes. Not that much difference. Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.
Rich so glad you gave your opinion on the 200. I rode a 2004 KTM 200 for years but it was an odd year as very light switch power. I recently purchased a 2020 Sherco 250se factory, and I love the suspension and luggable power, but it is a heavy and tall 250 two-stroke. So I am very interested in the Beta, being a shorter and older rider. Hoping to ride single track trails into my 70’s. Any additional info you provide is very much appreciated. Love your training videos and your bike opinions. I would like to see a 300 to 200 comparison. Thanks again.
I've been riding Beta 300's since 2015 and in 2022 I got 200 Race edition. I love the light lively feel of the 200 and would not like to trade that for some off idle lugability of the 300. I weigh 160 so that helps the 200. If I weighed more, probably a 300.
I know Yamaha’s YZ-X models are passé, but it’d be pretty cool to see the YZ125/250X compared to the smaller offerings from Europe. I know they’re missing an extra gear and hydraulic clutch, but is that such a disadvantage that I should overlook the price disparity and robust dealer network? Nearest KTM/Husky/Gasgas dealer is 4 hours away, and Beta/Sherco are both over 1000 miles away.
I'm an ex very competitive mx racer. I got in to scrambles/enduro and bought a yz250x. I did the must do mods such as apex head, governor mods, gearing, jetting dialed etc etc. It was still just "too much bike" for me in the tight technical stuff... It made hill climbs a laugh though. But, I bought a 200rr this spring, and immediately gelled with the bike out of the box, for the reasons mentioned in the video... It's easy to handle, no surprises, and the small size is a huge help. When I got the beta home and parked it next to the YZ I couldn't believe the size difference.
Yeah a small bore shootout would be sweet! I personally have spent quite a bit of time on a Beta 125, in which is way fun to ride and really makes you earn it, whether you are shredding the gnar or opening it up on some open single track. But either way it’s gets the job done.
I had the 2022 200 RE loved it but HAD to get rid and go back to the 300 because clutch problems… Beta UK even had the bike back but couldn’t seem to fix it, ONLY happens when you were HARD on the clutch riding EXTREME which I was shocked to see what you was riding … 😢 when they replace the clutch I will love to go back to the 200
I sold my 2016 300 race edition to my buddy last fall. We were talking the other day and I told him if I was to buy another it would be the 200. Haven't had the chance to ride one but with all I've seen about them, they look like a solid choice.
The 300 vs 200 beta shootout would be very interesting given that the quality and consistency of your riding should then highlight exactly how the bikes compare.
Brilliant I have been considering the beta 200 over my 300 for some time now. Jonny Walker proves your point Rich. Great review thanks …..bring on the shootout 🔫🔫
Great review as always Rich. I was able to ride a 200 rr at demo day and was totally stoked on it. Light and with a surprising amount of grunt. Had to ride in the higher R’s but it made it fun! The 200 is an excellent transition for kids moving out of an 85 2t or 125 4t once they are tall enough and heavy enough to need a bigger bore. My son is on an ‘03 KTM 200 I picked up after trying the 200 for myself. He loves it.
Ah, okay, up to you, but I just caught your comparison of the 300 RR and 200 RR and I'm putting my $$ on the 200 RR tomorrow. Thanks Cutler, IRC and Rich.
If you could. I think a beta 300 xtrainer review would be a fire review. Everyone underestimates the bike yet it's powerful. Basically it's like a mix of the 300 and 200
Hi there, as your saying there is a review of a Sherco SE 125 Factory? I do not find it. Insert a link for that please. I am interested because hesitating between 2 bikes as a beginner bike. The Beta 200 and Sherco 125. I am 5.5 tall and weigh 150 so a short light guy. I prefer light enduro and also like the motocross tracks. Obviously as a hobby. Wich one would you pick? Thank you very much for your work. Love your videos.😊
Hm I half to wonder if the 300 is awesome and a 200 is great then wouldn’t that make the 250 the all around best bike ever Haha Yes I’m biased 2018 250rr race edition with an RK Tek head and 13 49 gearing On a more serious note I’m short legged and had the low boy kit on for awhile and found for my kind of riding and probably lack of skill level I found the bottom of the bike was taking more of a beating so went back to stock height
Hi Rich, I have a 22 Beta 200rr in FL and a 22 KTM 250 XC-W in CT, totally different terrain so I enjoy both, but don't even try to compare them. I'm thinking about replacing the 250 (it's great) with a 2024 300 XC-W or a 2024, 200 RR Race, so I'm extremely interested in your comparison! I agree with your fun factor vs power theory and like you, I'm tall 6'1 but weigh 207 lbs w/o gear. I have a feeling the 200 can do the technical stuff great but am concerend that I might have to gear it low and that it will be screaming on road sections. Do The Comparison Please ( technical riding and on a track would be fantastic) Do it!!
It would be cool if you could include the KTM200 xcw last made in 2016. I own one and would like to know how the Beta compares to it. Not interested in buying a 300.
I would love to see your take on a featherweight comparison. I am a C class Vet rider in hare scramble racing in the southeast. I normally race a yz250fx and rode a friends YZ125X on a trail and was blown away by the light weight and steering. I found after riding the yz125x it taught me clutch and throttle control better than anything I have ever tried. I noticed after riding the yz125 I was faster on my yz250fx. they are great training tools and a ton of fun.
I'm on a 250FX also, great bike. Got my 14yr old a used 22' KTM 125XC that had the 150 kit installed. Once I got the jetting sorted I find myself gravitating to the 150 for its agility. Compared to the 250fx it only makes power in a small rpm range but it sure is fun trying to keep it there.
Hello, I am a beginner and live in Germany. Unfortunately, you are only allowed to drive on closed routes or on your own property. Can you also drive well with the Beta 200rr on the motocross track? Which Enduro can you recommend for a beginner who doesn't yet know what he wants to do? Thanks
The small-bore shootout would be cool. I've yet to watch or read anyone that hasn't been very impressed with the 200rr. I'm on the fence with the 200rr, 300rr and xtrainer for the spring. Getting away from a single do it all dual sport bike in favor of an adventure bike and woods scalpel. Trying to figure out which Beta...
I loved my ktm 200 and don't even consider a 200 a small bore. Ive one desert races on them and ridden the gnarliest trails around never felt like I needed more
I have a ‘98 KTM200 from new. This being the smallest of my four Kato’s. I just can’t part with it…so rideable, so much fun. KTM should not have given up on the 200! Definitely would like to see a small bore comparison.
I've been eyeing the 24 EXC150 as my next bike...I ride tight tech mostly and my 2018 TX300 is awesome, but its a big bike in tight stuff...so yeah, very keen on the small bore shootout!
Rich, i've been following you for some time and you've helped develop my passion for technical riding. You would do the community a great service by getting that small bore shootout done. Maybe include a YZ125x. Cheers!
For trail riding the 200 is a perfect bike anyone good can keep up to a 300 or better on tight trails I’ve seen a guy smoke almost every KTM 300 250 in a race
I'd love to see a small bore shootout! I spend most of the time down low lugging single track stuff and no way do I use all the 300 power. Still, would love to see more on the smaller bores.
Rich your skill in technical stuff is mind boggling. I know it takes lots of practice over years to ride like that, which l am not willing to practice because l love the excitement of speed and don't have that much technical stuff in my riding areas. I also have a Motocross bike without electric start.
You should try the Reiju 200. Just rode one a few weeks ago and although the last time I rode a Beta 200 it was December, the Reiju felt a little stronger from what I remember. Seat height is similar to my Sherco 250SE Factory with a factory low seat. The Reiju has the KYB suspension as well. I really liked it.
Unfortunately the Rieju 200 is unavailable in Spain. I plan on buying a Rieju 300 as I will only purchase a bike with KYB suspension. I really liked my KTM 300 but dialing in the suspension was a mission.
I have the 17 300rr and 23 200 race. Granted it still has the new bike smell but I look more forward to riding the 200 again. 200 very capable and less fatigue. I’m pretty much saving the 300 for organized dualsport rides that include connecting road sections. I’d love to see you do a lap time comparison between the 2
Great to see acknowledgement of the smaller bore bikes. Its not clear cut advantage to 300 in all conditions. Highly anticipate more vids on comparisons on the small bore and vs the 300. Great job.
What’s the snap like when you crack the throttle of the beta200 vers a ktm150? I owned a ktm150 and thinking of going to the beta200. Does anyone see a difference is tight turning between the ktm150 to beta200?
Yes sir!!! A small bore shootout would be awesome! Beta 125 & 200 RE's, Sherco 125, KTM/Husky 150, TM 125 & 144, YZ 125X, Rieju MR 200 & Ranger 200, then if possible get your hands on an older KDX 200 to see how it compares!!
Good talk, Rich. I'm tall and heavy and I've got a KTM 350 excf which I still cannot wheelie. But I'm getting there! Too much other fun stuff in life, I need to focus. And yes, I will keep shredding .. once I learn to do that too. Awesome stuff, keep it up. Cheers from Sweden.
200rr versus XTrainer versus 300rr.
I have a Xtrainer and I’m curious. The forks absorption on Xtrainer are a bit short from my needs
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Likely the only 2 stroke I'd give up my '18 Husky TE250 for.
thats my dream bike. can you also test the ktm 200? its kinda old now but its my plan b because of money...
I think the smaller engines are better for most weekend warriors. A lot of would be motocross stars all went out and bought 450 4 strokes but found they controll the power. I think the same thing goes for most weekend "enduro" fans. They don't have the skills or finesse to master a 300cc "race ready" 2 stroke. Most of their encounters with obstacles are on trails were they can ride around so they don't need all that power and the 200 is far more flickable. I have an ancient air head PE 175 that I prefer for trail riding over the Hair on Fire 250 4 stroke I own.
hi, how about the standard Beta chassis please?
Finally! Great job and review. Love my 200rr. It's WAY more fun than my old 300, and more than capable than me. But maybe more importantly, it's easier to ride and I don't get fatigued as quick as my old 300. The ONLY time I wish it had more power is above 10,000+ feet (Which I rarely ride). Looking forward to more 200 and small bore videos. Especially a 200 vs 300 lap times. You should have a lower skilled rider do that also. I think I'd be faster on my 200 than a 300.
Great input!
Thanks so much for watching!! 🙌
I owned a te150i and a te300i. The 150 was a great bike for learning the clutch and finding my balance but it got progressively harder to get better on. Before I owned either Husky I had a KTM 200 and that bike was my favorite thing since waffles.
I just got a 2015 KTM 200. Most fun I’ve ever had on a motorcycle of any kind
I have a 22 200 race edition, what you gain in fun and rideability over the 300 is great as an intermediate rider... Really feels like you are able to use the potential of the 200 but you have to stay sharp on gear selection and rpm, especially in technical riding. A great all round bike for the average rider, it really raised the fun factor coming off a 300.
As a fan of the old Kawasaki kdx200 and 220 I can relate to the small bore feel and the fun factor it brings. Would love to see you comparison test them
Im with you, i have only just parted with my dt200r which i would often take out on my enduro rides over my beta 300rr. I only sold it because it was getting knocked around and was hard to get oem parts. I may need a 200rr.
I have two kdx's an 87 and an 02. I love them both but the old air hammer at almost 30+labs lighter is my hard enduro rig. Thinking the grass was greener i bought a 2021 yz250x and haven't touched it now since December 2021. I kick myself daily for not looking into a beta 200 or reiju 200 ranger. Loved the video rich... Keep em coming.
As mentioned elsewhere a 200 vs 300 video would be quite interesting. Adding B and C class riders to the test would really help us mere mortals in relating to how these bikes compare. As an older rider who still loves technical terrain I fully admit my 300 can get away from me at times as the power far exceeds my requirements in most situations.
I backed down to a sherco 250 I do miss my 300 when racing the young guys but I'm 60hrs in and it hasn't bit me yet... with plenty of opportunities. Smack a tree and open the throttle all the way it still stays under me. Same goes for some killer hill climbs. The 300 got me quite a few times and made me way more tired just from the extra torque.
@woodysrockspyro6436 Agree with your thoughts Woody. I'm not in peak shape nor haven't ridden most of your life, my 300 had me fatigued in 30min. On the smaller bore bikes I can focus on technique and just have more fun. That was a tough pill for me to swallow but now I'm over it and enjoying the ride so much more.
Bought that bike for my wife. I ride beta 250. After first ride I fall in love. Now I got 2 motorcycles my wife can ride bicycle 😂.
Just boughta brand new one today for my son he just turned 13, 2023 200 rr super excited. Thanks for the videos keep it up!
I ride a 98 KTM 200exc with an fmf gnarly pipe, flywheel weight and 12/50 gearing, I love it, I ride mostly slow tech like creek beds and have never felt in need of more power.
One big advantage is through different clutch springs, spring spacers and a 9mm master I have been able to get the clutch pull down to 6lb's which is amazing, it almost feels broken it's so light, never get arm pump in the hard stuff on that bike.
That sounds amazing! coming from a dude riding a done up 300 with a super heavy clutch.
200rr vs ktm/husky tbi 150.
Also both 150 and 200 vs 250/300
Xtrainer vs 200
Any comparison would be welcome 😅
Arrgh! Jonny Walker and now Rich Larson! You guys are gonna cost me another twelve grand! Love my big bore Yamaha WR 450 and my new 2023 Beta 300 RR, now I’m hurtin for a light weight 200. The dead spot is probably just a jetting issue that should be easily resolved . Yeehaa! Variety is the spice my friends! Thanks for the video Rich!
The bike just felt lazy especially when I started lugging and then needed more throttle. Checked the spark plug and sure enough it was black. I used the jetting table in the users manual and ordered right sizes and the "dead zone" is way less noticeable and spark plug is nice and golden brown now. The list of mods: dented the radiators to get a tighter turning radius, pegs that are lower and to the rear, 9mm clutch pump and after market clutch discs since I had the "squeal" which could be heard on hard launches for long climbs with very little run up. Also I use 13/49 sprockets and tried 12/49 but since the gearbox seems to lave lower ratios it was useless on long and loose climbs. Overall I am glad I went with this bike for now.
What’s the 9mm clutch pump??
the ktm family 150's arent even close to the RR200 in power. Beta has more power in all CC classes. They do not face the same scrutiny from the EPA.
Man, I love watching you ride. You make it look so easy. Flawless. I look like a tornado trying to stationary balance on my trials bike. You barely move.
I have both a 300 RR Race and a 200 RR Race and I can say I agree 100% with everything in this video.
🙌 right on! Thanks for watching!
Why do you have both?
Multiple people in my household that ride.
@tonn333 doesn't matter..... he does and can compare for us too...
@@bbarker5766 I think that knowing the reason why did he/she decided to get both is useful... I find it hard to believe that there's no good reason for getting both
I would love to see a small bore shootout
Hope to make it happen!
I think the 2024 ktm 150 xcw would be a great bike to test because it has the new TBI system. You could compare that to the TPI
I agree! be a great comparison
SMALL BORE SHOOT OUT ... YES YES YES
I’m 140lbs but enjoy hard/soft enduro. I may look into this. My 300 feels like a tank! 😂
What 300?
I'd love to see a shootout of the KTM XC-W 150 or the Husqvarna TE 150.
XTrainer review!!!
I guess you have never rode a properly set up KDX 200. I love my KDX's 3-88's and 1-06. These bikes never die. You need to include a 06 KDX 200 with an updated suspension to compare old vs the new bikes. Not that much difference. Ride safe my 2 wheel friends.
I’d love to try one!
Huge difference...you didn't mention breaks and the suspension has changed hugely. No comparison.
Oh and weight..put a KDX on the scales and compare with Beta 200. KDX were great in their day but that was 20 years ago. 😜
@@stevegoatley560 Your only talking about 9-10 lbs. They weigh 220lbs. dry. Only over weight people complain about a few pounds.
@@stevegoatley560 I guess you didn't read the whole thing. I said with an updated suspension.
Rich so glad you gave your opinion on the 200. I rode a 2004 KTM 200 for years but it was an odd year as very light switch power. I recently purchased a 2020 Sherco 250se factory, and I love the suspension and luggable power, but it is a heavy and tall 250 two-stroke. So I am very interested in the Beta, being a shorter and older rider. Hoping to ride single track trails into my 70’s. Any additional info you provide is very much appreciated. Love your training videos and your bike opinions. I would like to see a 300 to 200 comparison. Thanks again.
Sherco 2st are the heaviest of the brands. Great motors. The 200 motor is great also, The seat height is certainly lower too.
Great job Rich! Xtrainer next?
Hell yeah. I want to see the shootout. I'm in the market and really thinking the 24 KTM 300 XCW is my next bike but the Beta is tempting as well.
I love my Beta
I've been riding Beta 300's since 2015 and in 2022 I got 200 Race edition. I love the light lively feel of the 200 and would not like to trade that for some off idle lugability of the 300. I weigh 160 so that helps the 200. If I weighed more, probably a 300.
I know Yamaha’s YZ-X models are passé, but it’d be pretty cool to see the YZ125/250X compared to the smaller offerings from Europe. I know they’re missing an extra gear and hydraulic clutch, but is that such a disadvantage that I should overlook the price disparity and robust dealer network? Nearest KTM/Husky/Gasgas dealer is 4 hours away, and Beta/Sherco are both over 1000 miles away.
I'm an ex very competitive mx racer.
I got in to scrambles/enduro and bought a yz250x. I did the must do mods such as apex head, governor mods, gearing, jetting dialed etc etc. It was still just "too much bike" for me in the tight technical stuff... It made hill climbs a laugh though.
But, I bought a 200rr this spring, and immediately gelled with the bike out of the box, for the reasons mentioned in the video... It's easy to handle, no surprises, and the small size is a huge help. When I got the beta home and parked it next to the YZ I couldn't believe the size difference.
A small bore shootout would be awesome.
Yeah a small bore shootout would be sweet! I personally have spent quite a bit of time on a Beta 125, in which is way fun to ride and really makes you earn it, whether you are shredding the gnar or opening it up on some open single track. But either way it’s gets the job done.
Please include the Rieju mr ranger 200 in the small bore shootout if you can get ur hands on one!
I had the 2022 200 RE loved it but HAD to get rid and go back to the 300 because clutch problems… Beta UK even had the bike back but couldn’t seem to fix it, ONLY happens when you were HARD on the clutch riding EXTREME which I was shocked to see what you was riding … 😢 when they replace the clutch I will love to go back to the 200
I sold my 2016 300 race edition to my buddy last fall. We were talking the other day and I told him if I was to buy another it would be the 200. Haven't had the chance to ride one but with all I've seen about them, they look like a solid choice.
The 300 vs 200 beta shootout would be very interesting given that the quality and consistency of your riding should then highlight exactly how the bikes compare.
You should totally do the shootout.
Nice video - thanks!!
This is a category I like
Videos of the 150 - 200 are really important
I would love to see more tests of this category
That would be a very good video. And also a lap comparison to.
Coming soon!
100% do a small bore shoot out!
Brilliant I have been considering the beta 200 over my 300 for some time now. Jonny Walker proves your point Rich. Great review thanks …..bring on the shootout 🔫🔫
Great review as always Rich. I was able to ride a 200 rr at demo day and was totally stoked on it. Light and with a surprising amount of grunt. Had to ride in the higher R’s but it made it fun! The 200 is an excellent transition for kids moving out of an 85 2t or 125 4t once they are tall enough and heavy enough to need a bigger bore. My son is on an ‘03 KTM 200 I picked up after trying the 200 for myself. He loves it.
Exactly! bImpressive bottom still like to be ridden in the High RPM.
Thanks for watching!
How does the power of the older KTM compare to the Beta 200?
@@video3dvd finally dialed it in and it’s on par with the modern 200 from beta.
Shoot out! Yes please, ASAP, need to make a decision.
Ah, okay, up to you, but I just caught your comparison of the 300 RR and 200 RR and I'm putting my $$ on the 200 RR tomorrow. Thanks Cutler, IRC and Rich.
If you could. I think a beta 300 xtrainer review would be a fire review. Everyone underestimates the bike yet it's powerful. Basically it's like a mix of the 300 and 200
I would think the 300 would be at an advantage for a heavier rider.
Thats probably true!
Bought the 200 last week. I'm a 57 yr old rider and it is fantastic. Love your videos.
what type of terrain are you riding? is the bike good at higher altitude?
I'm 5'9" 180 lbs., do you think this bike has enough power?
Not sure I would swap my 300 for one but I do want one to play on... No doubt!
Tough one! I need both haha
Hi there, as your saying there is a review of a Sherco SE 125 Factory? I do not find it. Insert a link for that please.
I am interested because hesitating between 2 bikes as a beginner bike. The Beta 200 and Sherco 125. I am 5.5 tall and weigh 150 so a short light guy.
I prefer light enduro and also like the motocross tracks. Obviously as a hobby. Wich one would you pick?
Thank you very much for your work. Love your videos.😊
Hm I half to wonder if the 300 is awesome and a 200 is great then wouldn’t that make the 250 the all around best bike ever
Haha
Yes I’m biased 2018 250rr race edition with an RK Tek head and 13 49 gearing
On a more serious note I’m short legged and had the low boy kit on for awhile and found for my kind of riding and probably lack of skill level I found the bottom of the bike was taking more of a beating so went back to stock height
Ive had some good results on 250s they work!!
Hi Rich, I have a 22 Beta 200rr in FL and a 22 KTM 250 XC-W in CT, totally different terrain so I enjoy both, but don't even try to compare them. I'm thinking about replacing the 250 (it's great) with a 2024 300 XC-W or a 2024, 200 RR Race,
so I'm extremely interested in your comparison! I agree with your fun factor vs power theory and like you, I'm tall 6'1 but weigh 207 lbs w/o gear. I have a feeling the 200 can do the technical stuff great but am concerend that I might have to gear it low and that it will be screaming on road sections. Do The Comparison Please ( technical riding and on a track would be fantastic) Do it!!
WHAT do you mean when saying jetting "a leaner straight section"" instead of change needle clip?
@7.00
Asking because need fixing my rr200
It would be cool if you could include the KTM200 xcw last made in 2016. I own one and would like to know how the Beta compares to it. Not interested in buying a 300.
+1 for the small bore shoot out
I would love to see your take on a featherweight comparison. I am a C class Vet rider in hare scramble racing in the southeast. I normally race a yz250fx and rode a friends YZ125X on a trail and was blown away by the light weight and steering. I found after riding the yz125x it taught me clutch and throttle control better than anything I have ever tried. I noticed after riding the yz125 I was faster on my yz250fx. they are great training tools and a ton of fun.
I'm on a 250FX also, great bike. Got my 14yr old a used 22' KTM 125XC that had the 150 kit installed. Once I got the jetting sorted I find myself gravitating to the 150 for its agility. Compared to the 250fx it only makes power in a small rpm range but it sure is fun trying to keep it there.
Hello, I am a beginner and live in Germany. Unfortunately, you are only allowed to drive on closed routes or on your own property. Can you also drive well with the Beta 200rr on the motocross track? Which Enduro can you recommend for a beginner who doesn't yet know what he wants to do? Thanks
can you test a Rieju 300?
Awesome vid, i can tell you were very enthusiastic about the 200. I ride a ktm 200 and it's a lot of fun, I never really felt the need for more power.
200 vs 300 would be cool
Rich, as always an awesome video, again your ability to explain and brake down things are at the top level.
The small-bore shootout would be cool. I've yet to watch or read anyone that hasn't been very impressed with the 200rr.
I'm on the fence with the 200rr, 300rr and xtrainer for the spring.
Getting away from a single do it all dual sport bike in favor of an adventure bike and woods scalpel. Trying to figure out which Beta...
Would you recommend the 200 or 300 coming off of a 250 4t?
I loved my ktm 200 and don't even consider a 200 a small bore. Ive one desert races on them and ridden the gnarliest trails around never felt like I needed more
I fell in love with a 200RE today at a demo. And I'm a 4T guy!
I have a ‘98 KTM200 from new. This being the smallest of my four Kato’s. I just can’t part with it…so rideable, so much fun. KTM should not have given up on the 200! Definitely would like to see a small bore comparison.
I've been eyeing the 24 EXC150 as my next bike...I ride tight tech mostly and my 2018 TX300 is awesome, but its a big bike in tight stuff...so yeah, very keen on the small bore shootout!
Rich, i've been following you for some time and you've helped develop my passion for technical riding. You would do the community a great service by getting that small bore shootout done. Maybe include a YZ125x. Cheers!
The ktm 125xc and yamaha yz125x are the most fun bikes I've ever ridden on trails! Give them a shot if possible, Rich! Love the content 👍🏻
For trail riding the 200 is a perfect bike anyone good can keep up to a 300 or better on tight trails I’ve seen a guy smoke almost every KTM 300 250 in a race
I love my KTM 200. Too bad they stopped making them.
Are you running the same tire and size tire on the 200 that you would be running on the 300 ?
As the old saying goes.. It's not the arrow, It's the Indian
I would really like to see the small bore shoot-out. I'm in the market for a small bore.
I'd love to see a small bore shootout! I spend most of the time down low lugging single track stuff and no way do I use all the 300 power. Still, would love to see more on the smaller bores.
Rich your skill in technical stuff is mind boggling. I know it takes lots of practice over years to ride like that, which l am not willing to practice because l love the excitement of speed and don't have that much technical stuff in my riding areas. I also have a Motocross bike without electric start.
Great review! You should do a 250 review as well!
Would love to!
I love my 200rr. Manageable and doesn’t wear me out on long rides. Absolute blast in tight single track.
You should try the Reiju 200. Just rode one a few weeks ago and although the last time I rode a Beta 200 it was December, the Reiju felt a little stronger from what I remember. Seat height is similar to my Sherco 250SE Factory with a factory low seat. The Reiju has the KYB suspension as well. I really liked it.
Unfortunately the Rieju 200 is unavailable in Spain. I plan on buying a Rieju 300 as I will only purchase a bike with KYB suspension. I really liked my KTM 300 but dialing in the suspension was a mission.
I have the 17 300rr and 23 200 race. Granted it still has the new bike smell but I look more forward to riding the 200 again. 200 very capable and less fatigue.
I’m pretty much saving the 300 for organized dualsport rides that include connecting road sections.
I’d love to see you do a lap time comparison between the 2
I got a 2007 gas gas ec 300 and I'm 75kg wet. Wish I got a 200 lol
Love the channel, would definitely like to see a small bore shoot out. Keep up the awesome videos!
300 sherco and just got 22 200 race. I love them both. 200 makes me up my game and work clutch/throttle fundamentals more
Very true!
Great to see acknowledgement of the smaller bore bikes. Its not clear cut advantage to 300 in all conditions. Highly anticipate more vids on comparisons on the small bore and vs the 300. Great job.
I love this review!! You did a really great job 👌🏼 I am seriously considering getting two of these for my son and me to play around on.
How wouls it feel framewise for someone over 6 ft?
I would like one and it would also be good for girls.
They’re pretty sweet 👍
Small bore shootout = Yes!
What’s the snap like when you crack the throttle of the beta200 vers a ktm150? I owned a ktm150 and thinking of going to the beta200. Does anyone see a difference is tight turning between the ktm150 to beta200?
The 200 has more snap. The new 24 betas turn better than the KTMs
How does it compare with the xtrainer?
I wish you would try the X Trainer.
Waiting for your new tests indeed!
In my altitude less than 1000 feet, I use the Suzuki needle in mid position to clean up that area you mention.
Which one, NECW? NECJ?
@@IRCTireUSAMoto NECJ (the NEDJ is a half clip richer) but mine with a 38 pilot and a 170 main runs crisp and clean from idle to screamin.
Thank you Rich!! I'm looking to get a 300 Beta in the next season. This 200 might just be a complement to my old beat on warhorse 498 Beta 4T.
It’s awesome! Thanks for watching!
You should definitely test ride both. I have a WR 450 and a Beta 300. Love em both. But now I’m thinking a 200 might be nice to have in the stable.
How come you always skip over the brand Rieju they have a 200 too 🤔
You should buy me one
Yes sir!!! A small bore shootout would be awesome! Beta 125 & 200 RE's, Sherco 125, KTM/Husky 150, TM 125 & 144, YZ 125X, Rieju MR 200 & Ranger 200, then if possible get your hands on an older KDX 200 to see how it compares!!
Do you use beta oil injection or do you disable and premix just wondering which way I should go
I used it and never had any problems
@IRCTireUSAMoto awesome 👌 that was fast lol I guess I'll run it
do the shoot out...i"ll watch it
You should try the Beta Xtrainer
Throw the 250RR RACE into the lap time comparison as well please. Seriously over looked its the best of both
Good talk, Rich. I'm tall and heavy and I've got a KTM 350 excf which I still cannot wheelie. But I'm getting there! Too much other fun stuff in life, I need to focus. And yes, I will keep shredding .. once I learn to do that too. Awesome stuff, keep it up. Cheers from Sweden.