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The clones fought for freedom but never had any to begin with. Never knew what living in freedom was like And once it was all over, all they had was each other :brothers
Well the whole point of the Prequel Trilogy is about how everyone screwed up. The Clone Army is meant to be morally dubious. Obi wan's visit to Kamino was designed to be the exact opposite of Luke's trip to Dagobah in every way. To the scenery(Bright,Clean and Artificial vs Dark, Dirty and Natural) aliens(Tall, Elegant Technophiles vs Short, Toadish, Spiritualist) and topics(Artificially Created Clones vs the Naturally Occuring Force). As the Jedi noticed their strength in the force weakened they lost faith in it and adopted the crude matter of the Clone Army to fight for them. Dagobah is all about rediscovering their lost faith in the force.
I think the Clones, and by extension, the whole Clone Wars era, is my favorite thing about Star Wars, only just ahead of the Old Republic era. When you think deeply about every facet of their lives, everything they've done from beginning to end, the Clones have the most tragic life of anyone in the franchise. They're born to fight and die for something they don't even understand, yet they're intelligent, flesh and blood human beings. It's not like programming an army of droids, it's creating a slave army that doesn't realize it's enslaved. Imagine how much worse it could have been if they weren't placed under the command of the Jedi. At least they showed compassion, regard for each and every Clone life (the vast majority of them did, anyway). The Jedi gave them the chance to be real human beings instead of unthinking machines, even if they were still fighting a meaningless war for reasons none of them truly understood.
Jonathan Parker Its kind of like vietnam. Americans fighting and dying in a pointless war for something they dont understand and are feed propaganda to make them join the military.
The Rise of the Empire era is the most tragic, because everything they do: every victory, every toast, every life saved means nothing in the end. The Senate still wins, and everybody else loses.
Most important battles in the clone wars, not the entirety of galactic battle history. I don't like this fact either, but the achievements made in the clone wars by clones or droids, or their leaders is very boiled down when you know that Palpatine is behind all that.
I am rewatching and now, that im older, I'm horrified- the war started because republic was unwilling to negotiate and release power. Jedi and all those rigtheous full of shit politicians- like Padme Amidala and Bail Organa- were so stuck up on holding on to power, they had zero problem with having slaves - clones- produced and thrown into battles.
Both sides did terrible things for good reasons. The Empire arose as a result, and did largely the same. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the line is long.
Anastasia B No, the Confederacy forced the Republic’s hand by trying to publicly execute a Republic government official and her protectors. The clones weren’t slaves, most of them willingly fought and died for their cause that they believed in. Only certain clones like Slick were slaves, slaves to a system that they thought was freedom, but was actually worse than where they came from, because they were not seen as human beings deserving of rights, but just a tool, a means to an end (being viewed as just disposable spies) unlike the Jedi that the clones were supposed to be serving under.
The Confederacy of Independent Systems built Protodekas and The Harbinger. They reconstructed the Dark Reaper and tested it's use on Alaris Prime, decimating the Wookie population before they were enslaved. This was the "alliance for freedom" that worked with Trandoshan slavers against the Wookies on Kashyyyk. You think the Galactic Republic was so bad because poor people lived under their wing, and things were worse outside of their control where they didn't intervene? The Separatists held civilians hostage, attacked sovereign governments, and sowed further division among various species. If that wasn't enough, they sided with the Techno Union. The experiments they performed on alien life were most certainly against Republic law.
@@godsdj7316 Both sides are terrible. The Empire is terrible. The New Republic and First Order are both idiots. The moral of the story is, Hutt Space needs more credit.
The saddest destiny in whole Star Wars. So many awesome men and they were treated like droids. I hope they bring the clones back in some way like they did with Gregor Wolf and Rex. Maybe like a village of deserted clones or something like that.
Expresso My Depresso In legends the first generation of Arc troopers found a way to stop the accelerated aging process. So there is a way that clones could still be alive.
@@HasufelyArod veterans assistance not a vet but I heard they give you jack shit for your service and pretty much you get no medical help no mental help
This really makes you think who the good guys were during the war seriously we’re talking about and elite slave army of soldiers and were just tossed away when there war was over slowly aging into extinction and in this case turned into horrifying frankinstein cyborg
Imagine the making of a movie from a clones perspective called “Geonosis” just an entire movie of a basic cone troopers experience on that planet would be simple and epic
"Well if droids could think there'd be none of us here, would there." -Obi wan Kenobi "Clones can think creatively. You will find they are immensely superior to droids." -Prime Minister Lama Su When the Clones March on Kamino the same song is playing as when the Droids marched on Naboo.
I keep getting reminded about the Hitler Youth when it comes to clones, especially younger ones. Many members of the Hitler Youth where litterally born and raised to server the Nazis, having countless propaganda thrown in their faces. However, the most messed up thing is that many where sent into battle in their teen years, 16-18.
The Hitler Youth were likely the most innocent members of the regime, but at the same time, they were also the most dangerous because they were more thoroughly indoctrinated, and thus were ticking time bombs, yet none of that could be blamed on them because, unlike those who started as adults, they knew no other way of life. :( That tragedy extends to child soldiers and children used as suicide bombers today; currently the most innocent but also the most dangerous in the long term.
Political Reaction actually the Kaiser's forces in the first World War. Because they had to come up with something to break the stalemate trench warfare had become. Fast moving teams of men with quick firing weapons seemed to work but there wasn't enough of them and the conventional troops couldn't exploit the stormtroopers' gains. Further, Germany itself couldn't sustain the war effort. A good idea but too late and not enough to change the war.
You forgot to note that due to accelerate aging, most of the clones are actually ten years old, leading to a fact that the are in fact children soldiers.
Rex... why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg and my arm... even my fingers... the body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you? I'm the one who got caught up with Gregor. A group above the Republic... even the Senate. And I was the parasite below, feeding off Palpatine's power. They came after the Jedi on Utapau... then the Temple on Coruscant... The Empire... just keeps growing. Swallowing everything in it's path. Getting bigger and bigger... Who knows how big now? Boss. I'm gonna make 'em give back our past... take back everything that we've lost. And I won't rest... until we do.
Here's my fan made version of what happened to the clones after the war: After the war ended, nearly the entire majority of all the clones who've survived the war all discovered that they have been wrongly done by the republic, they even realized that the reason for all of their suffering was all because of the kaminoans, their creators who slaughtered, enslaved, frankensteined and abused all of their clones. The clones decided to band together to get revenge against their oppressors so they gathered as many free clone troopers that they could and they secretly infiltrated kamino, they used their military skills to take over the server with the aid of the bad bunch, they had taken over the control room that controlled every clones inhibitor chip and they used it to create their own order 66, every clone in the radius of the signal all started to attack and kill their creators, the kaminoans who were jumped and frightened, immediately went to hit the kill switch for all of the clones in the galaxy but the bad bunch members Jessie and Tech had disabled it, they had disabled everything the kaminoans had to control their clones and soon, their creations were successful and had fully invaded kamino, the clones had taken complete military control over the cloning facilities, they freed all of their imprisoned brothers who were originally meant to be set for termination and the kamino race was completely exterminated on their homeworld. The clones, now in control of the planet that they all had came from, decided to adjust the cloning machines to their liking so that their future generations of clone brothers or sons won't have to be put through the same pain that they have for so long, they created their own clone society and made a treaty with the empire to lend palpatine as many clone bodies as they wish, as long as the clone bodies don't have sentience or is actually living and breathing and will only be used to transfer consciousness, in exchange the empire allowed the clones to have their independence on kamino and promised to never bother them, any kamino that had survived from the clone invasion on their homeworld have now went into hiding, are scattered across the galaxy and their numbers have dropped into the hundreds, meaning that they were now an endangered species. Some thought to band together and retake their world again but the clone army had *DOUBLED* in size, scientific research and they have made allies with the empire, not only that but the empire seized the moment to enslave some of the kaminoan people and they have forced them in secret to build new weapons and medical research to better the galactic empire..... and that's how I think the story should've been like.
Agreed. It’s been several years and yet Disney hasn’t created anything as interesting as anything in Legeds. Maybe how the First Order stormtroopers are trained and work but, well, they treat them like a joke on screen and in game.
THANK YOU. I have been pointing out the *dubious* morality of the jedi creating and maintaining a private army of *child slave soldiers* for years, to no avail...
Kyle Jordan Gaming The Jedi didn’t create the army, Dooku created the army. Did you not watch Episode II? And they only maintained the army (also fighting for clones’ rights might I add), because there was no other option to stop the Separatists. What did you want them to do? Let Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padmé get executed for trying to apprehend a criminal? Let the Republic crumble under Separatist attacks?
@@firebluetoad3990 Sifo was the one who ordered the creation of the army of clones with the approval of Chancellor Palpatine, Dooku took over the project later but he did not start it, also Anakin, Padme and Obi wan were going to be executed for: Committing espionage, murder of several Geonosian workers, and attempted sabotage of a state factory WITHOUT BOTH FACTIONS BEING AT WAR, Obi wan did not respect the sovereignty of the CIS over Geonosis and his two rescuers did all that, plus Dooku gave them the opportunity to be forgiven for their crimes to change to join him, which they refused to do, then they went to trial for their crimes and the punishment for their crimes was the death penalty, the law of Geonosis also says that the way to kill the condemned, in being debased By beasts in a battle arena, which the CIS government accepted, the Republic then, instead of sending diplomats to negotiate the release of the prisoners, decided to send more than 200 Jedi to occupy the battle arena and try to arrest the CIS government, if that is not a declaration of war then I don't know what it is, but they failed, most of them died in combat and despite all this Dooku gave them the opportunity to surrender In exchange for not being killed, to which the Jedi fanatics refused, to top it off the Republic then brought in a giant army that they had apparently been secretly creating to invade Geonosis, and they also try to arrest the leader of the CIS again ... Isn't it really obvious who started the Clone Wars?
@@condedooku9750 you are willfully ignoring any context to what actually happened and simply trying to paint the jedi as the bad guys The entire reason why obi wan went to geonosis was because he was tracking Jango fett ( a bounty hunter who was suspect of attempting to murder a senator). The reason why obi wan called for jedi help was because the CIS already wanted war with the republic count dooku himself talked about how the jedi will be overwhelmed by the superior number of the Droids that itself gave every right for the republic and the jedi to do what they did as war was inevitable
I remember watching Attack of the Clones back when it came out and being somewhat disturbed by the clone production process. But I was never much of a Star Wars fan, and I never read any books or watched any of the animated series. Recently my son has become obsessed with all things Star Wars so I have been watching both the movies and the Clone Wars series with him, and my heart goes out for the clones all the time. Even though some of the Jedi try to treat them with some compassion, more often they are treated just as much as connon fodder as the Battle Droids on the other side - and with no hope of "going home" at the end of their service. It's interesting how there is this tragic story right there in plain sight of what on the surface is a good guys vs. bad guys space opera. I have actually gained a lot of respect for George Lucas: sure, his writing can be cringy, etc. etc., and as a late-20's protohipster when the prequels came out, I dismissed them as trash. But to show a big Space War where both sides are morally compromised (and indeed, where the same people are behind the scenes pulling the strings on both sides) in a kids movie? That's pretty ballsy...
Apparently the Star Wars equivalent of the Geneva Convention didn't restrict the sorts of weapons that could destroy all organic life within a large radius. Or were the Separatists breaking Intergalactic Law?
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They also were trying to make as much money as possible. Best way to do that is to sell a product that will need to be replaced in the short run regardless of use.
Take me with you. Now that the corrupt and inhumane leaders are dead, the true goals of the CIS can be brought to light. Freedom, equality, and justice for all across the galaxy!
And it's much more terrifying from what they add in the Bad Batch in Tantiss, as not only they are prisoners, but they're essentially left with two choices: Be a mindless slave for the Empire as an assassin, or die, in the most slow and painful way possible
Boy i remember when TCW came out when I was 8 years old, me and my buddies viewed them as mentor-likes figure of some sort, we had a certain admiration, watching this video kinda melted my childhood even watching as an adult.
Every single clone fought for something they didn't believe in and some even sacrificed their own lives for their jedi generals and some even sacrificed themselves to save thousands if not millions of people. But even with all of that the jedi got most or all the credit when in reality they may have been miles away from the actual fight. Even though the clones were sentient beings who had feeling fears and felt pain they still were treated like nothing more then a science experiment. With all of this it makes you wonder if Palpatine was correct about the jedi all along and that they should have went extinct.
Justin Lozada after Geonosis, the clones fought for each other. Reality had set in. Jedi weren't as good as the propaganda made them out to be. Some clone commanders were quite happy to blow away some Jedi: Commander Bacara was pretty upset that the Jedi had attempted a coup and thought about all his brothers who'd died while under the leadership of that cone head Jedi. He didn't need the chip at all.
Osama Bin Laden I don't know about 40K but the clone were created in tubes, grown with artificial acceleration that was extremely damaging, never had a private life, were brainwashed from birth, didn't not received any salaries, didn't have any rights, were executed for any slight defect and hunted for leaving the Army; besides the hell that was their first Battle of Geonosis I don't think any soldiers in fiction or real life had worse.
maria celeste Xavier That's all? How cute. It's clear you don't know how terrible 40k is compared to star wars. Go and read the imperial guard article on 1d4chan.
I feel thankful that the 2008 Clone Wars existed to give me a childhood and to flesh out the clones, the 2003 micro series was pretty good, I loved it, but I feel bad that we didn’t get much development for the clones, it’s good we got several hours of development.
When I heard that season seven of The Clone Wars was coming out, I started watching the series for the first time since I was ten years old. The series is absolutely depressing with showing the reality of life for the clones. Never before have I been so upset over fictional characters’ treatment.
4:46 "The Battles the Clones were forced to fight in were nothing like the simulations" Clone: Nothing at all like the Simulations on Kamino. Also Clone: JUST LIKE THE SIMULATION
I never knew how dark a clone troopers back story could be until now. It's so sad, especially removing 70% of a clones organic body structure and replacing them with machinery.😥
I think 99 was better than any other clone. He was only in a couple of episodes in the clone wars, but still he was a heart warming character and his death pretty much gave everyone tears.
4:47 "The battles that the clones were forced to fight in were nothing like the simulations that they practiced in. Sure the simulations prepared them to physically fight and survive in battle, but it did not prepare them for the true horrors of war as they witnessed their comrades" Random clone trooper in the middle of the battle: "JUST LIKE THE SIMULATIONS"
I would argue the propaganda efforts to instill loyalty to the Republic is only a minor factors for why the Clone Army fought as hard as it did. For one, all the clones were grown in a communal training environment, and knew nothing else. Like the allegory of the cave scenario, it's hard to grasp freedom if you don't know or haven't experience it. Second, growing up in a communal system also instilled immense loyalty to both the system you are serving and the Soldier next to you. It's the number one reason why Soldiers in any military across history generally go back to the frontlines even if they have frequently experienced hardships. It's because they don't want to let their unit or Soldier next to them down. So for example, if you were to ask a German on the ground in the waning days of WWII, even when all hope was lost, why he was still fighting, the number one reason was for the person next to them.
5:25 they should make that canon, I do love me some stories about Clones getting to have happy lives outside of the Republic or refusing Order 66 becoming Rebels.
I think it wouldve been more effective if the growth accelerant was made to wear off once the clones reached a decent fighting age. That would have extended their use and their value
The Republic's officer corps was small and largely ineffectual. They did not have enough officers to run the war effort after the Ruusan Reformation and several of them held old-fashioned mentalities that viewed soldiers as expendable. Without the Jedi, you're still looking at poor tactics and dead clones. One might argue that the Republic could have placed clones in-charge, but that really doesn't change the situation. The clone lieutenants, captains and commanders were versed in tactics and capable of informing their Jedi. The Jedi were capable of learning about tactics themselves, and had the physical capabilities to protect their troopers far beyond the capacity of an ordinary officer. Some Jedi treated their clones like cannon fodder, as some ordinary officers did. Any Republic officer looking to betray the Republic for the Separatists could have used Krell's methods, costing those thousands. The Jedi cannot be appropriately blamed as a whole due to the fact that there was nobody stepping up to take the positions they were to be given. Mass execution does not provide any appropriate justice for the actions of a few awful Generals, one, that being Krell, was already dead at the time. The clones' anger would have been more appropriately directed at the Galactic Republic, which allowed the Jedi, an order of peacekeepers, to become officers and then kept them there. The Republic cut corners on most of their military projects and did not train enough officers fast enough, which was ultimately Sidious's plan: to put the Jedi in a position where they had to lead lest there be no leaders, watch them fail, then turn the democratic republic into a dictator-led imperium that had it's own officer corps plentifully stocked.
The creation of the clones is very depressing topic that only fuels my hatred for the kaminoans and my distain at the tactics used during the battle if Geonosis
The Clone trooper Slick had a really good point: He betrayed the Republic because he hated that his brothers were being used for slavery. He wanted them to be free.
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One thing I keep thinking about is that, if the republic won the clones wars, how would retired clones be treated. Would they be accepted into societies, or even governments, or would they be segregated, like aliens in the empire, or to compare in our history, like blacks in America
They probaly would have a hard time getting into civilian life. A better comparison would be real veterans coming home from war and being introduced to civilian life again
Alonzo Aldaba It was mentioned in the video. They would be segregated in retirement homes, and while you may think that only the Empire used them retired clones were the old and INJURED ones. Infact I think the Empire treated them better than the Republic would have ever done by trying to find a way to counter the deterioration.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Retired_clone_trooper We don't know that the clones were forcibly segregated for their retirement. More than likely they were stuck on planets close to the Outer Rim and encouraged to act as labour for farms and whatnot, which isn't far off from how the Old Republic treated their person-born troops. It's obvious that they weren't censored given the fact that this 501st trooper got to recount what occurred during the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War.
He knew about some of it, and he tried to rectify at least some of the worst problems (ie personally training some of the early ARC troopers, introducing Mandalorian culture, etc).
I much prefer the Legends continuity Clones and Mando lore (not counting the CGI Clone Wars series as part of the Legends continuity since it created waaaaaay too many contradictions)
Yang the Magician Yep. Liked Ahsoka Tano, Captain Rex and most of the newly introduced troopers, but seriously: *Screw* the stupid, ass-pull inhibitor chips and their portrayals of Mandalorians as freaking _pacifists_
Siggy Reagan It’s just so incredibly stupid, both lorewise (how would a few unarmed pacifists reform a planet full of highly trained, armed to the teeth people, whose culture is formed all around battle?!) and from a vendor‘s point of view (if the Mandalorians have their cool armour, there’s gonna be more hyped up fans buying stuff with them).
Is it possible that some clone units such as the secretly created 501st Legion knew about Order 66 was a potential order under contingency, while most of their men lacked inhibitor chips past a certain point? That would justify both the 501st trooper's dialogue in SWBFII 2005 AND the Tup arc.
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The Lore Master no problem
*_It was an honor to fight with you for something we chose to believe in._*
*_- Gregor's final words to Rex_*
:'(
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The clones fought for freedom but never had any to begin with.
Never knew what living in freedom was like
And once it was all over, all they had was each other :brothers
Wasn't in their programming.
RANDY TYSON deep
It wasn't in my programming
RANDY TYSON lol >Republic >freedom
Make this one run a personality test he might have a sens of humor.... If he is personality deficient, terminate him.
This is another reason I like Mandalorians, they actually helped the clones they taught.
Raptorus77 yeah same
Skirata!!!😁
Conaman can I ask you to translate, or do I have to go pick up my book off my shelf?
(Republic Commando: triple zero, translator in the back)
Conaman hell yeah, brothers to the end.
Makes me despise the Jedi more seeing as how they were used like a new pair of socks constantly
when a girl rejects you just like your anxiety said she would
*Just like the simulations*
lolchief119 that actually happened today to me feels bad man
I am very sorry to hear, I hope things turn around good for you :(
Sad...
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>when you have sex for first time
"just like the simulations"
Well the whole point of the Prequel Trilogy is about how everyone screwed up. The Clone Army is meant to be morally dubious. Obi wan's visit to Kamino was designed to be the exact opposite of Luke's trip to Dagobah in every way. To the scenery(Bright,Clean and Artificial vs Dark, Dirty and Natural) aliens(Tall, Elegant Technophiles vs Short, Toadish, Spiritualist) and topics(Artificially Created Clones vs the Naturally Occuring Force). As the Jedi noticed their strength in the force weakened they lost faith in it and adopted the crude matter of the Clone Army to fight for them. Dagobah is all about rediscovering their lost faith in the force.
Never seen through that perspective, very thoughtful.
, huh. Never thought of it that way!
It's like poetry, it rhymes.
One of the best thing a I've red on RUclips.
You just blew my mind.
I think the Clones, and by extension, the whole Clone Wars era, is my favorite thing about Star Wars, only just ahead of the Old Republic era. When you think deeply about every facet of their lives, everything they've done from beginning to end, the Clones have the most tragic life of anyone in the franchise. They're born to fight and die for something they don't even understand, yet they're intelligent, flesh and blood human beings. It's not like programming an army of droids, it's creating a slave army that doesn't realize it's enslaved. Imagine how much worse it could have been if they weren't placed under the command of the Jedi. At least they showed compassion, regard for each and every Clone life (the vast majority of them did, anyway). The Jedi gave them the chance to be real human beings instead of unthinking machines, even if they were still fighting a meaningless war for reasons none of them truly understood.
Jonathan Parker The whole concept really reminds me of Chalres Chaplin's 'Machine Men' speech. It really is tragic.
Jonathan Parker Its kind of like vietnam. Americans fighting and dying in a pointless war for something they dont understand and are feed propaganda to make them join the military.
The Rise of the Empire era is the most tragic, because everything they do: every victory, every toast, every life saved means nothing in the end. The Senate still wins, and everybody else loses.
Saaaame the old republic and clone wars era is my fave
Oh my god, you have no idea how much I love those books! To this day, they are one of my favorite parts of the Expanded Universe.
The clones were put through hell and did some of the most important battles of the galactic war
Dennis Cleary And how were they repayed ? Cast aside like they were trash
Callum Webb especially when they decided to do away with the clone program and recruit troopers that cannot fight and have the worst aim.
Zachary Angel True
Callum Webb Just like real service men.
Most important battles in the clone wars, not the entirety of galactic battle history. I don't like this fact either, but the achievements made in the clone wars by clones or droids, or their leaders is very boiled down when you know that Palpatine is behind all that.
I knew clone training was harsh, but I didn’t know it was this harsh.
Sammeeee!
Stormtrooper training was harsh too, just saying.
I know
Republic Commando training was the worst. A lot died during training because they where shot at with real blasters.
Make a mistake and youre dead
CT - 7598 Wow and I thought imperials were heartless.
Puts a very different perspective of who the "bad guys" really were
Richard Lew In Rebels Ashoka said both sides lost the war
The good guys are definitely not the sith here’s why: ruclips.net/video/-PoBLF8qxe4/видео.html
I am rewatching and now, that im older, I'm horrified- the war started because republic was unwilling to negotiate and release power. Jedi and all those rigtheous full of shit politicians- like Padme Amidala and Bail Organa- were so stuck up on holding on to power, they had zero problem with having slaves - clones- produced and thrown into battles.
Both sides did terrible things for good reasons. The Empire arose as a result, and did largely the same. The road to hell is paved with good intentions, and the line is long.
Anastasia B No, the Confederacy forced the Republic’s hand by trying to publicly execute a Republic government official and her protectors. The clones weren’t slaves, most of them willingly fought and died for their cause that they believed in. Only certain clones like Slick were slaves, slaves to a system that they thought was freedom, but was actually worse than where they came from, because they were not seen as human beings deserving of rights, but just a tool, a means to an end (being viewed as just disposable spies) unlike the Jedi that the clones were supposed to be serving under.
the clones fought for something they didn't have
*Fought to destroy something they didn’t have
The Confederacy of Independent Systems built Protodekas and The Harbinger. They reconstructed the Dark Reaper and tested it's use on Alaris Prime, decimating the Wookie population before they were enslaved.
This was the "alliance for freedom" that worked with Trandoshan slavers against the Wookies on Kashyyyk.
You think the Galactic Republic was so bad because poor people lived under their wing, and things were worse outside of their control where they didn't intervene? The Separatists held civilians hostage, attacked sovereign governments, and sowed further division among various species.
If that wasn't enough, they sided with the Techno Union. The experiments they performed on alien life were most certainly against Republic law.
@@godsdj7316 Both sides are terrible. The Empire is terrible. The New Republic and First Order are both idiots. The moral of the story is, Hutt Space needs more credit.
@@samuelwithers2221 Same with the Chiss
@@samuelwithers2221 the New Republic became dumb in the sequels so we won't count that
Kaminoan: you have one extra eyelash your imperfect!
Saeid Radder pretty much
YOU ACTUALLY THINK CREATIVELY! SOMEONE, QUICKLY! TERMINATE THIS CLONE! TERMINATE CT-1120
“You’ll have to find me first!”
*proceeds to hide in the mess hall*
@@fortherepublic1263 I guess that we will have to gas the whole mess hall.
* shank with lethal injection needle*
The saddest destiny in whole Star Wars. So many awesome men and they were treated like droids. I hope they bring the clones back in some way like they did with Gregor Wolf and Rex. Maybe like a village of deserted clones or something like that.
Expresso My Depresso In legends the first generation of Arc troopers found a way to stop the accelerated aging process. So there is a way that clones could still be alive.
Expresso My Depresso Thrawn was Legends and now he is Canon.
It would still be amazing
Rex was one of the team who fought at Endor, canon confirmed. Gregor died liberating a world for the rebellion.
MLP ShadyOakMinistries So Gregor survived one of the deadliest battles in the Clone Wars, a huge explosion and died liberating a planet. He is a hero!
NOT LIKE THE SIMULATIONS
Dont watch for those wrist rockets!
+Legiyon WE GOT SUPERS
Indeed.
I'LL TRY SPINNING, THAT'S A GOOD TRICK!
It’s treason, then.
"Retired clones were given the bare minimum for their service." Sounds a lot like the VA
damn
What is VA?
@@HasufelyArod veterans assistance not a vet but I heard they give you jack shit for your service and pretty much you get no medical help no mental help
@@ghosty2270 thanks, kind Stanger
@@ghosty2270 *stranger
This really makes you think who the good guys were during the war seriously we’re talking about and elite slave army of soldiers and were just tossed away when there war was over slowly aging into extinction and in this case turned into horrifying frankinstein cyborg
And the Separatists just wanted Independence
AngryEchidna ya there like America and what’s wrong with America
SkySlasher ii
Or like how Vietnam veterans were treated
#CISWereTheGoodGuys
Seems the Mandalorian trainers and Jango Fett had the most compassion and love for the clones. Sad they had such a horrible life.
Of course those mandalorians were from the true mandalorians not deathwatch like the piece of shit bo katan
Imagine the making of a movie from a clones perspective called “Geonosis” just an entire movie of a basic cone troopers experience on that planet would be simple and epic
"Well if droids could think there'd be none of us here, would there."
-Obi wan Kenobi
"Clones can think creatively. You will find they are immensely superior to droids."
-Prime Minister Lama Su
When the Clones March on Kamino the same song is playing as when the Droids marched on Naboo.
the trade federation march?
@@Killerbee4712 Yes.
*This* is the clone lore video I've been looking for. BRAVO!
Clones were the best solders in the galaxy and they never had a choice to choose.
Clone lives matter
Équinoxe Clone lives matter
Droid lives matter
CLM
#Clonelivesmatter
#CloneLivesMatter
I keep getting reminded about the Hitler Youth when it comes to clones, especially younger ones. Many members of the Hitler Youth where litterally born and raised to server the Nazis, having countless propaganda thrown in their faces. However, the most messed up thing is that many where sent into battle in their teen years, 16-18.
The Hitler Youth were likely the most innocent members of the regime, but at the same time, they were also the most dangerous because they were more thoroughly indoctrinated, and thus were ticking time bombs, yet none of that could be blamed on them because, unlike those who started as adults, they knew no other way of life. :(
That tragedy extends to child soldiers and children used as suicide bombers today; currently the most innocent but also the most dangerous in the long term.
Alonzo Aldaba storm troopers did come from , the Nazis after all
Political Reaction actually the Kaiser's forces in the first World War. Because they had to come up with something to break the stalemate trench warfare had become. Fast moving teams of men with quick firing weapons seemed to work but there wasn't enough of them and the conventional troops couldn't exploit the stormtroopers' gains. Further, Germany itself couldn't sustain the war effort. A good idea but too late and not enough to change the war.
No doubt, what happened to these young people was a tragedy.
Many 12 and 13 year olds fought in WW1.
This just makes it even more impressive that Rex and Wolffe function as well as they do, and makes Gregor's childlike nature more understandable.
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You saw through the lies of the Jedi
That’s why he put a time stamp to skip
He chasin a bag leave him alonr
You forgot to note that due to accelerate aging, most of the clones are actually ten years old,
leading to a fact that the are in fact children soldiers.
林慕天
Maybe they grow mentally twice as fast as well...
MCU Forever They do, but we're just saying that their actual age is around 10 years old.
Richard Mosqueda
& i’m saying it’s not a crime if mentally & physically they are 20 years old.
Child soldiers metaphorically, but not physically or mentally. They walk, talk, think, act, fight, and curse like adults.
@@Kovi_99 not a crime?.. Bro.. Just... Nothing... Do not come near me ok
Imagine going through puberty, mid life crisis and PTSD at the same time or right after one another.
Rex is the best Clone!
Fives is my second favourite.
Wastydest During The War Yes , But Not In Rebels
No. Fives is the best clone.
Rebels fucking sucked
Wastydest I agree
Fuck Rex! Appo was the best Clone!
Rex... why are we still here? Just to suffer? Every night, I can feel my leg and my arm... even my fingers... the body I've lost... the comrades I've lost... won't stop hurting. It's like they're all still there. You feel it too, don't you? I'm the one who got caught up with Gregor. A group above the Republic... even the Senate. And I was the parasite below, feeding off Palpatine's power. They came after the Jedi on Utapau... then the Temple on Coruscant... The Empire... just keeps growing. Swallowing everything in it's path. Getting bigger and bigger... Who knows how big now? Boss. I'm gonna make 'em give back our past... take back everything that we've lost. And I won't rest... until we do.
King Edward "Longshanks" I, Hammer of the Scots, Lord of Wales and King of England damnit you made me cry!
The rise of the empire is the perfect setting for Phantom Pain in space! Hell, it could be another one of those "Rebel Origin" stories. :>
@@theguybehindyou4762 espically since it can lead to a glorious last stand of the GAR
Shup up Kaz
the music is really effective on this overwise upsetting topic
SkySlasher do you know which song plays at the 5 minute mark.
The Hyperborean Menace
@@denverbax6329 hey Denver Bax do you what song they used in the 4:24 Mark? because I can not find it anywhere.
@@MIKGO59 I could not find it either, check the playlist in the description again, it sounds like something from MachinimaSound
@@denverbax6329 I did check like 5 times but I can't find it.
The clones were slaves to Palpatine when order 66 issued.
Zero Arashi Uchiha they nerve had any freedom to begin with, they were engineered for the republic by the republic, they were born with nothing
Here's my fan made version of what happened to the clones after the war:
After the war ended, nearly the entire majority of all the clones who've survived the war all discovered that they have been wrongly done by the republic, they even realized that the reason for all of their suffering was all because of the kaminoans, their creators who slaughtered, enslaved, frankensteined and abused all of their clones. The clones decided to band together to get revenge against their oppressors so they gathered as many free clone troopers that they could and they secretly infiltrated kamino, they used their military skills to take over the server with the aid of the bad bunch, they had taken over the control room that controlled every clones inhibitor chip and they used it to create their own order 66, every clone in the radius of the signal all started to attack and kill their creators, the kaminoans who were jumped and frightened, immediately went to hit the kill switch for all of the clones in the galaxy but the bad bunch members Jessie and Tech had disabled it, they had disabled everything the kaminoans had to control their clones and soon, their creations were successful and had fully invaded kamino, the clones had taken complete military control over the cloning facilities, they freed all of their imprisoned brothers who were originally meant to be set for termination and the kamino race was completely exterminated on their homeworld.
The clones, now in control of the planet that they all had came from, decided to adjust the cloning machines to their liking so that their future generations of clone brothers or sons won't have to be put through the same pain that they have for so long, they created their own clone society and made a treaty with the empire to lend palpatine as many clone bodies as they wish, as long as the clone bodies don't have sentience or is actually living and breathing and will only be used to transfer consciousness, in exchange the empire allowed the clones to have their independence on kamino and
promised to never bother them, any kamino that had survived from the clone invasion on their homeworld have now went into hiding, are scattered across the galaxy and their numbers have dropped into the hundreds, meaning that they were now an endangered species. Some thought to band together and retake their world again but the clone army had *DOUBLED* in size, scientific research and they have made allies with the empire, not only that but the empire seized the moment to enslave some of the kaminoan people and they have forced them in secret to build new weapons and medical research to better the galactic empire..... and that's how I think the story should've been like.
That's pretty cool
Hey, don't stop doing these Legends videos anytime soon. I look forward to them more than canon. They're great
Agreed. It’s been several years and yet Disney hasn’t created anything as interesting as anything in Legeds. Maybe how the First Order stormtroopers are trained and work but, well, they treat them like a joke on screen and in game.
This video made me more teary eyed than I expected, the Clones deserved better :(
THANK YOU. I have been pointing out the *dubious* morality of the jedi creating and maintaining a private army of *child slave soldiers* for years, to no avail...
Kyle Jordan Gaming
The Jedi didn’t create the army, Dooku created the army. Did you not watch Episode II? And they only maintained the army (also fighting for clones’ rights might I add), because there was no other option to stop the Separatists. What did you want them to do? Let Obi-Wan, Anakin, and Padmé get executed for trying to apprehend a criminal? Let the Republic crumble under Separatist attacks?
@@firebluetoad3990 Sifo was the one who ordered the creation of the army of clones with the approval of Chancellor Palpatine, Dooku took over the project later but he did not start it, also Anakin, Padme and Obi wan were going to be executed for: Committing espionage, murder of several Geonosian workers, and attempted sabotage of a state factory WITHOUT BOTH FACTIONS BEING AT WAR, Obi wan did not respect the sovereignty of the CIS over Geonosis and his two rescuers did all that, plus Dooku gave them the opportunity to be forgiven for their crimes to change to join him, which they refused to do, then they went to trial for their crimes and the punishment for their crimes was the death penalty, the law of Geonosis also says that the way to kill the condemned, in being debased By beasts in a battle arena, which the CIS government accepted, the Republic then, instead of sending diplomats to negotiate the release of the prisoners, decided to send more than 200 Jedi to occupy the battle arena and try to arrest the CIS government, if that is not a declaration of war then I don't know what it is, but they failed, most of them died in combat and despite all this Dooku gave them the opportunity to surrender In exchange for not being killed, to which the Jedi fanatics refused, to top it off the Republic then brought in a giant army that they had apparently been secretly creating to invade Geonosis, and they also try to arrest the leader of the CIS again ... Isn't it really obvious who started the Clone Wars?
@@condedooku9750 you are willfully ignoring any context to what actually happened and simply trying to paint the jedi as the bad guys
The entire reason why obi wan went to geonosis was because he was tracking Jango fett ( a bounty hunter who was suspect of attempting to murder a senator). The reason why obi wan called for jedi help was because the CIS already wanted war with the republic count dooku himself talked about how the jedi will be overwhelmed by the superior number of the Droids that itself gave every right for the republic and the jedi to do what they did as war was inevitable
I remember watching Attack of the Clones back when it came out and being somewhat disturbed by the clone production process. But I was never much of a Star Wars fan, and I never read any books or watched any of the animated series. Recently my son has become obsessed with all things Star Wars so I have been watching both the movies and the Clone Wars series with him, and my heart goes out for the clones all the time. Even though some of the Jedi try to treat them with some compassion, more often they are treated just as much as connon fodder as the Battle Droids on the other side - and with no hope of "going home" at the end of their service. It's interesting how there is this tragic story right there in plain sight of what on the surface is a good guys vs. bad guys space opera.
I have actually gained a lot of respect for George Lucas: sure, his writing can be cringy, etc. etc., and as a late-20's protohipster when the prequels came out, I dismissed them as trash. But to show a big Space War where both sides are morally compromised (and indeed, where the same people are behind the scenes pulling the strings on both sides) in a kids movie? That's pretty ballsy...
I know this is two years later but I am curious; has watching The Clone Wars and rewatching the films with your son changed how you view the prequels?
Jeez where is Geneva convention when you need it
Alderaan convention
The starwars Geneva convention just prohibited the use of the kind of weapons that we have in the real world, lightsabers don’t count though
Apparently the Star Wars equivalent of the Geneva Convention didn't restrict the sorts of weapons that could destroy all organic life within a large radius. Or were the Separatists breaking Intergalactic Law?
“Geneva? What planet do you think you’re on!?”
-Johan Stahl, Killzone 3
@@duncanharrell5009 Ah yes, someone else remembers the Killzone saga
Thank you The Lore Master for keep making Star Wars videos, you are my favourite Star Wars youtuber and i'm always happy too se new uploads from you! Your videos are so beautifully made and your voice is so catchy that sometimes i pass hours watching your videos; please never stop doing what you do, greetings from Italy and may the force be with you my friend! :)
Why couldn't the kaminoans just stop the aging process after a clones training was completed?
Probably to avoid giving them enough time to think for themselves.
Josh Donoho This makes sense. Thanks!
Probably not worth the time and effort
David Hong Yeah it's sad but the regular clone doesn't really live long
They also were trying to make as much money as possible. Best way to do that is to sell a product that will need to be replaced in the short run regardless of use.
This thumbnail is fire 🔥
"In water we are born, in fire we die. Our souls will seed the universe." - Kaminoan Prayer to fallen clones(Essential Guide of Warfare).
They basically are disposable humans in the Star Wars universe. Nothing more and nothing less.
And yet, they were the most fascinating aspect of the entire franchise. That makes them so much more.
"the painful reality of the republic commando is that duty must come before brotherhood"
And yet these “clones” had more heart and character then the Jedi they served
Jason Todd No, they had the same heart and character.
The Republic Commando game and books are really good at showing this stuff (I noticed you got some stuff from them)
I always hated kaminoans
Nightfall 333 they are not even fit to be ground up into fish meal
Siggy Reagan for real! 👍
Hail, fellow Autobot! Glory to the clones, glory to a free Cybertron!
Yeah. Me too. Always unsettled me with their dark..... soulless eyes.....
Should go into the CIS Remnants.
Yes you should
Yes
Frothy Walrus roger roger
*they're
Take me with you. Now that the corrupt and inhumane leaders are dead, the true goals of the CIS can be brought to light. Freedom, equality, and justice for all across the galaxy!
And it's much more terrifying from what they add in the Bad Batch in Tantiss, as not only they are prisoners, but they're essentially left with two choices: Be a mindless slave for the Empire as an assassin, or die, in the most slow and painful way possible
I almost cried rip all the clones we saw die in the clone wars Thor, fives, heavy, hardcase, ect,and we will mis you Gregor
The force accepted them into its fold, their heroism and selflessness was not overlooked.
Boy i remember when TCW came out when I was 8 years old, me and my buddies viewed them as mentor-likes figure of some sort, we had a certain admiration, watching this video kinda melted my childhood even watching as an adult.
It seems to me that Legends Republic is more evil than Canon Republic.
#ripdominosquad :(
DeeJayDeFalt from squad to trooper
Saeid Radder ye :(
Echo isn’t dead tho
Ironic they are called the domino squad as the fell like domino
They were my favorite squad
Every single clone fought for something they didn't believe in and some even sacrificed their own lives for their jedi generals and some even sacrificed themselves to save thousands if not millions of people. But even with all of that the jedi got most or all the credit when in reality they may have been miles away from the actual fight. Even though the clones were sentient beings who had feeling fears and felt pain they still were treated like nothing more then a science experiment. With all of this it makes you wonder if Palpatine was correct about the jedi all along and that they should have went extinct.
Justin Lozada after Geonosis, the clones fought for each other. Reality had set in. Jedi weren't as good as the propaganda made them out to be. Some clone commanders were quite happy to blow away some Jedi: Commander Bacara was pretty upset that the Jedi had attempted a coup and thought about all his brothers who'd died while under the leadership of that cone head Jedi. He didn't need the chip at all.
Damn, star wars is BRUTAL
#SaveTheCloneWars
The Clone Wars>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>Rebels
Jason Tang the last jedi >>>>>>>>>> Rebels
And trust me, the last jedi is a pile of shit
Weeeelllllllllll its back
I loved how they showed the clones training in some capacity in the clone wars tv show.
Now i'm sad
So am i
Clones are like any soldiers sent to a foreign planet/country to fight for a war they know nothing about
Alex Vendome Gardner So just like the imperial guard from 40k?
No, the clone's situation is much worse because they never had any previous life to begin with.
maria celeste Xavier But they don't have to deal with the things that the imperial guard has to deal. Star wars is very light compared to 40k.
Osama Bin Laden I don't know about 40K but the clone were created in tubes, grown with artificial acceleration that was extremely damaging, never had a private life, were brainwashed from birth, didn't not received any salaries, didn't have any rights, were executed for any slight defect and hunted for leaving the Army; besides the hell that was their first Battle of Geonosis I don't think any soldiers in fiction or real life had worse.
maria celeste Xavier That's all? How cute. It's clear you don't know how terrible 40k is compared to star wars. Go and read the imperial guard article on 1d4chan.
I feel thankful that the 2008 Clone Wars existed to give me a childhood and to flesh out the clones, the 2003 micro series was pretty good, I loved it, but I feel bad that we didn’t get much development for the clones, it’s good we got several hours of development.
At least someone on Kamino cared for them. Shaak Ti was always polite and cared for the Clone Troopers.
Imagine if the clones rebelled, but instead of like order 66, instead they made their own government, that would make a cool alternative timeline
When I heard that season seven of The Clone Wars was coming out, I started watching the series for the first time since I was ten years old. The series is absolutely depressing with showing the reality of life for the clones. Never before have I been so upset over fictional characters’ treatment.
4:46 "The Battles the Clones were forced to fight in were nothing like the simulations"
Clone: Nothing at all like the Simulations on Kamino.
Also Clone: JUST LIKE THE SIMULATION
I never knew how dark a clone troopers back story could be until now. It's so sad, especially removing 70% of a clones organic body structure and replacing them with machinery.😥
I think 99 was better than any other clone. He was only in a couple of episodes in the clone wars, but still he was a heart warming character and his death pretty much gave everyone tears.
These boys just needed a hug from time to time because they are humans , but god are they the best thing to come from Star Wars next to the lightsaber
great video, love the entire history and lore of the clones
The Clone Wars era really was an absolutely genius story. Filled with so many morally grey areas.
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Droids were a more humane choice than clones.
4:47 "The battles that the clones were forced to fight in were nothing like the simulations that they practiced in. Sure the simulations prepared them to physically fight and survive in battle, but it did not prepare them for the true horrors of war as they witnessed their comrades"
Random clone trooper in the middle of the battle: "JUST LIKE THE SIMULATIONS"
I would argue the propaganda efforts to instill loyalty to the Republic is only a minor factors for why the Clone Army fought as hard as it did. For one, all the clones were grown in a communal training environment, and knew nothing else. Like the allegory of the cave scenario, it's hard to grasp freedom if you don't know or haven't experience it. Second, growing up in a communal system also instilled immense loyalty to both the system you are serving and the Soldier next to you. It's the number one reason why Soldiers in any military across history generally go back to the frontlines even if they have frequently experienced hardships. It's because they don't want to let their unit or Soldier next to them down. So for example, if you were to ask a German on the ground in the waning days of WWII, even when all hope was lost, why he was still fighting, the number one reason was for the person next to them.
The Republic commando novels go into depth about how the clones were raised on Kamino, they're definitely worth a read.
Dang, the clone training is *EXTREMELY* harsh!
5:25 they should make that canon, I do love me some stories about Clones getting to have happy lives outside of the Republic or refusing Order 66 becoming Rebels.
I think it wouldve been more effective if the growth accelerant was made to wear off once the clones reached a decent fighting age. That would have extended their use and their value
Man, before watching all these videos, I never realized how dark Star Wars actually was.
I love Clones.. I'm glad they got to have a bit of revenge on the republic through Order 66, taking down it's Jedi Knights...
The clones would have served in the war regardless of Jedi intervention. How does destroying the Jedi actually count as proper vengeance?
The Republic's officer corps was small and largely ineffectual. They did not have enough officers to run the war effort after the Ruusan Reformation and several of them held old-fashioned mentalities that viewed soldiers as expendable. Without the Jedi, you're still looking at poor tactics and dead clones.
One might argue that the Republic could have placed clones in-charge, but that really doesn't change the situation. The clone lieutenants, captains and commanders were versed in tactics and capable of informing their Jedi. The Jedi were capable of learning about tactics themselves, and had the physical capabilities to protect their troopers far beyond the capacity of an ordinary officer.
Some Jedi treated their clones like cannon fodder, as some ordinary officers did. Any Republic officer looking to betray the Republic for the Separatists could have used Krell's methods, costing those thousands.
The Jedi cannot be appropriately blamed as a whole due to the fact that there was nobody stepping up to take the positions they were to be given. Mass execution does not provide any appropriate justice for the actions of a few awful Generals, one, that being Krell, was already dead at the time.
The clones' anger would have been more appropriately directed at the Galactic Republic, which allowed the Jedi, an order of peacekeepers, to become officers and then kept them there. The Republic cut corners on most of their military projects and did not train enough officers fast enough, which was ultimately Sidious's plan: to put the Jedi in a position where they had to lead lest there be no leaders, watch them fail, then turn the democratic republic into a dictator-led imperium that had it's own officer corps plentifully stocked.
This might be one of my favorite Star Wars fact videos ever.
The creation of the clones is very depressing topic that only fuels my hatred for the kaminoans and my distain at the tactics used during the battle if Geonosis
The Clone trooper Slick had a really good point: He betrayed the Republic because he hated that his brothers were being used for slavery. He wanted them to be free.
What about the Droid attack on the wookies, I'm a wookie I care. Oh wait, I mean rarawraraw
Tequilla DaSkilla, yes
URAAAAWAAAW OORF!
I can't make Wookie sounds I'm sorry.
The Annoying German , that's fine
It is not going well. My aat driver has gotten his arms ripped ofF. Crap. I hear them banging the upper access to the tank. Fuck. Dammit. TELL I WAS DESTROYED IN SERVICE AHHHHH
*CRUCH CRACK BAM*
*RAAAR*
OOM- 32 ha
Kal Skirata and his Null Arcs, as well as his group of commandos that defected were pretty badass. One of the Nulls pops up in Legacy of the Force
One thing I keep thinking about is that, if the republic won the clones wars, how would retired clones be treated. Would they be accepted into societies, or even governments, or would they be segregated, like aliens in the empire, or to compare in our history, like blacks in America
The republic did win the clone wars, sorta.
Alonzo Aldaba OMG get over this blacks thing
They probaly would have a hard time getting into civilian life. A better comparison would be real veterans coming home from war and being introduced to civilian life again
Alonzo Aldaba It was mentioned in the video. They would be segregated in retirement homes, and while you may think that only the Empire used them retired clones were the old and INJURED ones.
Infact I think the Empire treated them better than the Republic would have ever done by trying to find a way to counter the deterioration.
starwars.wikia.com/wiki/Retired_clone_trooper
We don't know that the clones were forcibly segregated for their retirement. More than likely they were stuck on planets close to the Outer Rim and encouraged to act as labour for farms and whatnot, which isn't far off from how the Old Republic treated their person-born troops. It's obvious that they weren't censored given the fact that this 501st trooper got to recount what occurred during the Clone Wars and Galactic Civil War.
Theres so much potential to make a gripping war movie or game with the Clone Troopers. Always a fan of the Clone Wars era
The coolest army is the saddest army
Could you imagine doing nothing but fight vicious machines your entire life only for the empire to make you one?
So how did Jango react to this?
Andster11 Productions he didn’t care. All he cared for was the credits
Andster11 Productions Well he died, but he was pretty pissed at times. Hell if he survive he would probably try to find a way to free them.
He knew about some of it, and he tried to rectify at least some of the worst problems (ie personally training some of the early ARC troopers, introducing Mandalorian culture, etc).
He lost his head...ba dum 'tis
I am a troll please get offended Nope. Obviously most people haven't read Jango's back story
Do more on the Dark Troopers. I always wondered if the Dark Troopers were some of the regular clones or just human recruits in different battle suits
plo treated his clones like humans
Nice detailing the lives of Clones, Loremaster. Even in canon they were treated as expendable.
Were men not clones men! quote from captain rex just subscribed to your channel lore master great videos
Clones are the most interesting characters in modern Star Wars for me, they deserve to get a gritty live action film just about them
Great video!
Thanks!
4:45 JUST LIKE THE SIMUL-oh wait, never mind...
I much prefer the Legends continuity Clones and Mando lore (not counting the CGI Clone Wars series as part of the Legends continuity since it created waaaaaay too many contradictions)
Yang the Magician Yep. Liked Ahsoka Tano, Captain Rex and most of the newly introduced troopers, but seriously: *Screw* the stupid, ass-pull inhibitor chips and their portrayals of Mandalorians as freaking _pacifists_
ViolentScorl pacifist Mandos. Like handsome and romantic orcs or Hutts who cared about their weight or hotties whose crap doesn't stink.
Siggy Reagan It’s just so incredibly stupid, both lorewise (how would a few unarmed pacifists reform a planet full of highly trained, armed to the teeth people, whose culture is formed all around battle?!) and from a vendor‘s point of view (if the Mandalorians have their cool armour, there’s gonna be more hyped up fans buying stuff with them).
Is it possible that some clone units such as the secretly created 501st Legion knew about Order 66 was a potential order under contingency, while most of their men lacked inhibitor chips past a certain point? That would justify both the 501st trooper's dialogue in SWBFII 2005 AND the Tup arc.
Its nice to see Star Wars retain some realism in how veterans of wars are treated
weren't the clones also modified to be more tolerant to stress?
"We live as slaves to die in someone elses war another day!"
- IDK a clone trooper at the end of every skirmish probably