Postal Worker Snaps: The Vengeful And Brutal Attack Of Jennifer Marco | Real Crime
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Documentary exploring the events leading up to former US Postal Service worker Jennifer San Marco's vengeful 2006 attack on former colleagues and an old neighbour, in which she shot and killed seven people before taking her own life in Goleta, California.
San Marco's ex-school friends, survivors, criminologists and eye-witnesses to the rampage combine testimonies to determine what drove her to take such desperate measures.
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Imagine that poor man surviving Vietnam and then getting killed working at a post office
Especially by one who had gotten possessed by a Demon.
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@@Proud-Ally Is called learning from experience .. and learning from people who have had experiences.. yes let me get you a LINK.. Hahaa
@@Proud-Ally In other words you are not the kind of person that Im writing to. MOVE ON. Don't offer your clueless opinion. no one cares.
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I was working that day on overtime, since it was normally my day off. I knew Jennifer San Marco quite well, she would sit with me sometimes at lunch, wanting to know how to buy stocks which I knew a lot about. I also knew everyone she killed, they were my co-workers who I had worked with everyday for years. When she started she was a great worker and very friendly, but after about a year that changed and she became a complete different person. Many believed that she had stopped taking her medication but no one really knows. I first noticed it when I said "Hi Jennifer" and she didn't respond but gave me an angry look. I thought maybe I had offended her in some way, I just didn't understand it because she had spoken friendly to me almost everyday for more than a year before that.
Anyway, the night it happened, I heard the gunshots while I was scanning Priority Mail and then everyone started to run to the dock where the trucks were, for safety.
Dexter Shannon was one week away from retirement. Charlotte Colton was actually not a supervisor like the video says, but an employee trainer. She actually was not working that night, she had just popped in for a few minutes to leave off some paperwork, even though she could have done it the next morning. Also not mentioned in the video, a deaf employee that Jennifer really liked when she worked there, was at the time clock ready to leave when she spotted him. He later told me she smiled at him and then went on her way, he was spared!
Also not mentioned in the video, right after she shot Charlotte Colton, she aimed her gun at the head of a lady employee who would have been killed for sure, except for the fact that her gun jammed, giving time for that employee to escape.
I had worked at that office since 1989 and loved working there, but after that happened in 2006 it just wasn't the same. I happily took early retirement in January 2013, after 23 years.
Of course, it is a day I will never forget.
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@@eddiew2325 Hi, Eddie, I think I know you, what is your last name please?
Your story has more holes than swiss cheese
lol What a load of crap. It's amazing how there is always someone like you ready to make up whatever bs story they can to get likes and efame on these types of videos.
I have mental illness in my family and the truth is, even though someone is on the radar, we cannot take away their rights “to be on the safe side.” For every psychotic who becomes dangerous, there’s probably 500 who are never a threat to anyone. How can we possibly determine that?
No but you can schedule someone to help them! I know because I’ve had it done to me.
Lock them up like we did to my cousin
Was her disability mental? Adult protective services.
@@LittleRayofSunshine69750 Only if there's a threat to someone...
I worked there on that shift, but went to day shift before San Marco started working there. I worked with several that were killed. Charlotte Colton had 3 children. She was kept on life-support, while her family was making arrangement to donate her organs. Dexter Shannon really was the nicest guy , just like they said. Nikki had a great sense of humor and was fun to talk with. I thought this video was fairly accurate. Could have been a 3 hour video, if they included everything.
I'm sorry for the loss of your coworkers, this is a true tragedy. 😥
nice to read your comment
Wow great n sad to know. I read somewhere Charolete supervisor funeral was attended by 1200 people. She was really popular
That's lucky ( understatement)👍🇫🇴🇬🇧😇
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when a person is walking around with an imaginary friend at work........ time to report and take concern.
Jimmie Stevens awww shit! I'm in trouble. Lol just kidding, i keep in control of my actions and behaviors.
watch the video..
Jimmie Stevens lol White Folks being Normal
Yes and take their AR-15’s but leave the handguns.
Kalevi Urpilainen I talk to myself too, but I don’t actually think there’s anybody there. And I don’t do it when other people around. I definitely have never turned to an imaginary person and said “See? I told you so!”
@17:05 he said "......the conversation with the imaginary friends were fine at first" Huh???? How is a convo with someone who isn't real ever fine??Clear sign of schizophrenia sir
I get it. When doing monotonous tasks I tend to daydream random stuff and sometimes end up unintentionally “performing” my daydreams. It’d look odd to a stranger but probably not to a coworker who sees me daily. We excuse and justify weird stuff in our day to day lives.
Spiritual forces are very real...both the angelic and the demonic.
Jesus Christ scares away devils...believe me.
We may be blind to it, but there are entities around us. Take life and love seriously..
@@michealcarver2474 Jesus is an imaginary friend.
Lol@@mcdarkness4779
Some of it will be taken as talking to ones self at first. But yea, if you notice 'other people' in their conversations on their own - that's some high level mental illness.
This lady is such a mystery, so much so that there seems to be only two photos of her in circulation.
Exaclty sir. Even ther is no mention of her immediate family member. Nn parents or sibling n no relatives. Only few pictures.
You could genuinely make a horror film about this one. No jumpscares or monsters needed, just an accurate portrayal of her life
Yes so true. Her life looks totally scary. Can you imagine there are no enough photos of her. She was so much alone. God knows what she was upto
Yet if a man did this, he'd just be hated, ridiculed, and expected to burn in hell for eternity!
@@SinisterScoundrel6562 bro. be so ffr. Go google all those films about yall men who were serial killers and how many people "fascinated" with them. so stfu pls
There was a movie made about it, and yes had it been a man it wouldn't have made one iota difference as to the why.
Everyone noticed her going downhill but no one offered help. Nice
I mean they tried, but she refused treatment
Humans evolve physically. Humanity continues to back slide. Sad. People, recognize & reach out. We all have to share this planet.
Yeah that is usually the case. People just ignore it.
@Ammonia right. Put them where they belong. I'd rather not deal with it myself.
@Fresh Beginnings schizophrenia usually manifest itself in late teens too early 20's left untreated shit like this and worse happens. Alot quit taking meds because they don't like how "it makes them feel". I'd say, "fine, but if you start your crap you're going to the rubber room Indefinitely.
A great deal of PTSD among the interviewees. I hope they have all received counselling or the help that they need. Sad, sad story.
I agree
I suffer from PTSD from a stabbing 10 yrs ago. It NEVER goes away. Medication only keeps me half grounded.
@@dougstyles5091 So sorry to hear that. I have C-PTSD and aside from the occasional tranquilizer, I just work my way through a situation or get the hell out of the situation. It is true that this is with you for life, but there are ways to "deal" with this, as there are with any other disorder or affliction~~~even though it makes life very difficult at times, I know. Best wishes and blessings to you!!
@@Missditabomb Thank u for the kind words. God bless
@@dougstyles5091 I ve had also suffered from a similar attack.Adoration of the blessed sacrament is what helped me and the forgiveness I gave to the attacker.
I can't imagine, as an officer, to drive up to a scene like this, and not only seeing the bodies, but also not knowing where the killer was in such a massive building.
I’d probably off myself
dnt be a pussy. you know the killer is alone and you have your men and all the backup you need
This made me think of Sandy Hook.
@@myngnas007 Too simplistic. What if sho had corralled hostages when you come upon her. Police need to carry drones to surveil the area. Robots will resolve these dilemmas and allow faster entry.
@@myngnas007 Ask the pentagon to call in an airstrike.
Anyone that has an imaginary friend past the age of 10 is an immediate red flag. It’s not right.
I agree
i.e. all religious people.
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Whether angry or not, a convo with an imaginary friend is a problem
This was SO preventable. Jennifer was on the radar and went unchecked for years
Does the Racist Press still exist?
cathy D. It’s because she had the right to refuse and avoid any help or treatment. I think we should force it because if not it can be a threat to others and themselves. What do you think?
@@michellebarron1987 that's called 5150 where people are place in a psych unit for 3 days for observation 5250 is 7 days..
@@michellebarron1987 I totally agree having been assaulted by a paranoid schizophrenic who did not take his medication regularly.
It's tough. As someone with a mental illness, I don't believe I should be kept under watch or forced to do anything just because others might think I'm a threat. Violence often has to do with more than just someone having a mental illness. We're more likely to be the victims of violence.
"her talking to her imaginary friend was fine at first" when is it ever "fine at first"? tf..
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The endless discussion about the women's looks both the killer and the victims is amazing. I have never heard of a postal worker killer where the way he looked was discussed throughout.
Never watched Ted Bundy? That's majority of what they discussed good looking charismatic guy. Seemed normal as you or me but signs popped up mentally.
I believe they were emphasizing on her looks for the narrative of... she was attractive to men but she didn't have any love interest due to her unstable personality...imo?
@@frankconrad5022 Ted Bundy did not have a mental illness...This lady very clearly did
@@palerider6099 So? Sane people kill people all the time.
One reason they discuss beauty is because they would not expect anyone who appears attractive to be so inherently ugly and evil. On the other hand, I think there's something about the culture at the post office that just notes the superficial about people, including how female coworkers look. Maybe it's because they usually work in such a fishbowl, and their world is basically confined to that space all day.
I worked for the Postal Service for 10 years. It was a playground for workplace harrassers, supervisors that would come up behind people and slap them or poke them. One isolated a woman co worker and pulled down his pants in front of her. Good paying job with great benefits, but I hated every minute of it. Glad I left and found something else to do.
So glad I got out, too! I worked at the post office for nearly three years, and that was long enough for me to know I will never want to work there again. Yes, they pay is good, but the emotional and physical abuse was absolutely horrendous. They constantly traded me out to other post offices, where I came in to do the majority of the work, while the regulars got to take it easier and basically loaf off. The harder you work, they only reward you with More hard work. The lazy ones are promoted, which allows them to loaf off even more. My off days could change at the drop of a hat.
I burned out quick. They work you like a dog, and the work/life balance was Terrible. 6 days a week in the post office is a kind of hell I Never will return to. Human beings were just not meant to work like that. On my orientation before starting the job, I remember the guy who spoke to us say "you will not have much of a life, but you will make good money!" Then he rubbed his fingers together in a pantomime of counting dollar bills.
I knew at that point while sitting in that class, that I had gotten myself into something that was not going to be very good to my soul or spirit. Nothing on this earth is worth choosing money, over emotional stability and physical health. Truly a toxic workplace, on the highest level. This is why people go crazy there.
Hahaa! You wanna bet? I was about to get out of the Marine Corps which made me eligible to take the Postal exam early. Took it, passed it and got my interview. I had to be escorted out of the building because the supervisor who interviewed me was so rude I cursed her out. If one of my female relatives had been there Lord knows what would've happened. I told my wife, a good Christian woman, and she wanted to pay this "lady" a visit.
Not only USPS, there are many big companies that are like this that pay well but is a place where sociopaths and psycopaths rule.
@@RK-ve4xp public service in general... total workplace culture cesspools
My dad did almost 30 years at the post office before he Retired back in 2003.
He was a janitor he kept the place clean . my dad didnt take no shit from no one
Yes my dad had to deal with the crap at the post office with Racism my dad Sued the post office 2 times back in the 90s and got his money because they did my dad wrong.
My dad always work his ass off to take care of me and my sister.
Back then my dad was making $16 to $18 an hour back then that was alot of money in the 90s
Sheriff: "I knew this was the real deal." Why? Does your dispatch sometimes prank you with fake shootings?
Maybe he meant "I knew this wasn't somebody mistaking firecrackers for gunshots"
Maybe it wasn't something benign I think he meant..
"A real deal", in this case, meant a catastrophic event. Don't take his words literally.
She was so unwell. It's sad she only found peace after taking innocent lives and then her own. It's tragic for everyone involved.
She never " found peace"..... she died. End of story.
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@@robertbright1813 If she was not saved, she fell off into hell, period. Don't deny it.
If she was not saved, she fell off into hell, period. Don't deny it.
She found no peace
Makes me somewhat grateful that despite the fact I'm diagnosed as "Paranoid Schizophrenic" I don't talk to individuals that aren't there... though I can 100% agree with the fact that if you isolate someone with schizophrenia who has delusions and such vivid hallucinations they will nearly always get worse and worse... there seem to be numerous times where she should have been hospitalized. KIDS have "imaginary friends" - adults have Schizophrenic Hallucinations and Delusions - the two are *VERY* different!
The thing is, it wasn't ego syntonic. She isn't someone who knew she had schiz or what have you and had integrated these abnormal realities / behavioral quirks in a functional way in her life-- which I've seen. You can be schiz and refuse treatment and NOT cause any harm. However she was a normal person who SUDDENLY had a break-- a normal person does not have the bandwidth to handle that rationally or emotionally. We do not deal w/ what you guys deal w and basically can't survive a week of it lol. (My husband is schizophrenic.)
No one isolated her.
She chose to live alone.
Her condition was probably incurable and if you lived with her you would risk your own mental health.
I was raised by a paranoid schizophrenic. My mother. Back then the only drug they gave out was Haldol. It caused her to have terrible tremors but seemed to do nothing about the delusions. It made for a rough childhood for 8 kids.
@I am a Neo Nasty mental illness is very contagious as the human brain is very malleable and susceptible to influence......check out Shared Psychotic Disorder
@I am a Neo Nasty Shared Psychotic Disorder has been a term around for decades....its nothing new or generational.....
Back in the late 1980s I worked at a USPS facility as a Casual Laborer. I was hoping to get a permanent job with the postal service. However, after my first contract was over I noticed that there were quite a few odd people that worked there. People with borderline emotional and mental issues, especially on the graveyard shift. I changed my mind about working there soon after.
There was also a lot of sexual impropriety going on especially in the parking lot. In the morning after my shift I had to be careful where I stepped, because I didn't want to step on any used condoms. Very disgusting, and the worst part was that supervisors and management were well aware of this. There was a lot of drug use and mail theft too.
Needless to say the work invironment was not very healthy. The final insult is that most of the time you can't fire these federal government employees, because of their union, and the laxed policies of the post office. I was sexually harrased on several occasions by both men and women as well, and nothing was really ever done!
The postal service is a breeding ground of dysfunction, bad and even criminal behavior, and resentment.
There's a reason why a mass shooters actions are referred as "Going Postal" So if you work at the post office and someone yells out SHOOTING! BELIEVE THEM AND RUN FOR YOUR LIFE!!!
That's not surprising for California. Federal employees included.
@@copacetic6440 Specifically, what do you mean "for California"?
So true.
Ive been sexually harassed in work and living environments. There were women who helped protect my abusers.
WoW Letty G I find this information very valuable. I had unbelievable problems with my post office. theft like you would not believe. I filed those complaint forms they make you fill out but it didn't matter because the person in charge of those was stealing as well :0(
For years I suffered. nothing was everrrr done about it. Except they finally closed that post office and the next one closest to me.
If our colleagues, friends, or closest family members starting to having an abnormal behaviour, please help them because it may saves life. Do not just ignore them and treat them like psychopath person. It will drive them more into brutal and madness thinking. This video already teach us what is the consequences of leaving a person with abnormal behaviour alone. RIP victims.
Who here remembers when the postal workers were shooting up the Post Offices? I was literally afraid to even walk into a Post Office Building back then.
It's where the phrase, "going postal" came from.
It did become a "thing" at one point and I know why. Back then I was getting out of the military which made me eligible to take the postal exam immediately. I did all I needed to do and went in for my interview. I had to be removed from the postal building, THAT'S how big of an asshole the supervisor who interviewed me was. I was that angry and I had been a Marine for 6 years.
To whoever ask did you remember? I can remember where I lived. mid center of Ca., the maximum number of people allowed in the substation was 5 otherwise you had to wait outside. I never got a clear explanation why? I suspected there had been an alert like a bomb scare. That lasted about 5-6 months. Later there was the Arkansas post office incident, several killed there, it was bad ad I remember.
To bohemoth: I have a also remembered the Arkansas was blamed on a drug called Prozac,
used for depression, as I recall.
Depression was the health problem d'jour. The drug explosion was hanging in the back ground, just waiting for the fuse to be lit.
bohemoth1
I started working for the USPS in 1985 when I was 18. It was the next year when all the shootings seem to happen. Been there now for 35 years.
Strange how the word "spree" is used in only two circumstances. Killing. And shopping.
Pilletta Doinswartsh 3. Crime spree
Pooping spree!
Shop til you drop.
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I like Spree candies.
Everyone: She was a very attractive woman.
Me: You guys have another photo?
I guess she wasn't photogenic.
Are you going to ask her out,🤗
You made me laugh!!! 😂 lmao
@@Gleyi07 It's the best medicine, glad you liked it 🤗
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Exactly but look at the people saying that!!
We all need friends to cope in this sad world.
Its so sad to see the hurt all of these people share and the lives that were lost. Mental health is a real issue i don't care if people feel like your not minding your own business its important to help get this addressed.
Most if not all mass murderers have mental illness. Otherwise murder would be acceptable and normal, not despised and horrific.
REASON we all need ti keep petitioning for more mental health care facilities. The government needs to put more money into mental health care. We are all suffering 😢 its sad so many times people don't believe or listen even our own family. Its being all alone.
@@chuchukarn5613 i'd like this twice if i could.
Exactly keep petition and keep fighting for mental health cuz people can just break it anytime and they caused the devil to get stronger so and but it's got to be in that person want to get help
What’s even worse about this story is that this mentally ill and homicidal woman was also racist, wanting to start a business called “The Racist Press” and only killing postal workers of color. Truly haunting story. I feel for all the families who lost their precious loved ones because of this evil woman.
She needed help. It seemed she had nobody. Sad. What she did was horrible.
Definitely sounds like she had schizophrenia and nobody around to know of her illness or to help her. When a schizophrenic has a psychotic break, there is no telling what they will do. It is one of the worst mental illnesses that a person could have. It is a terrible illness and her story, and that of her victims, is indeed quite sad.
@@Missditabomb & Hellowow 39, Indeed. Jennifer needed psychiatric assistance *long before* a coworker *FINALLY took action* about her failing health and removal from the workforce and being admitted into a psychiatric hospital. Her coworkers should have been compassionate and approached her once they noticed her speaking aloud *in conversation* with a *non-existent personality* (rather than just voicing aloud personal thoughts or reactions to what she was doing, etc.), asking how things were going, what was happening in her life and relationships and health and diet, and over time, after a while... if she was really doing alright, generally, etc. *Simply being humane and supportive* (rather than controlling, prejudiced/prematurely judgmental, and Gestapo-like) in order to find out if there was a reason to be seriously concerned (which there was; a severe, *worsening psychotic disorder* and likely a *personality disorder* as well) and then approaching a humane supervisor in regard to her *being her -- BEFORE* -- she became agitated and angry.
i think she liked the receptionist with the short black hair
she probably thought that the receptionist was purposely trying to hide from her
they also said that she obviously cut her hair real short, and made it look kinda spiky
which was just like the receptionists hair
i betcha she wanted to be friends with the receptionist
but yeah, that part about how her co-workers said that sometimes she would come into work with the lipstick just smeared a crossed her mouth like that?
that right there?....
@@OakleyANDSittingBull whats sad is you don't even get the help you need going inpatient. They release you once they think you are stable.... or when your insurance runs out and if you don't have insurance your f'ed
LoveEverton John aww god bless your poor little heart. Glad it gives you strength but we all know it’s over that’s it, god hasn’t shown or proven himself to anymore this from someone who grew up in the church it’s all about control and power and if I ever become one of the elite thank you for being another sheep. Bless You
The cops crying at the end really got me. Poor guys. Too much tragedy all around.
Yeah, poor cops, boo hoo. Lol
@@legalfictionnaturalfact3969 Piss off, liberal. Most cops are good people, and a good number of them are Veterans that finished protecting your freedom to be a dumbfuck on the internet to then go on to law enforcement and protect their communities.
@@knexfan100 then let them be dumbfucks on the internet then!
@@knexfan100 how much cop pickle do you chug a week
But they don't cry when they murder black People in cold blood ?
a special thanks goes out to all of our postal workers and law enforcement officers thank you for your professional services
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Did I miss something when they skipped over her family? It would have been interesting to hear about her family history.
Exactly ! ..i was thinking that too ...they only mentioned the distant cousin in california ..it's strange they did not come forward
Yeah that's a idea was there some mental issues way back
Or not,...maybe it was too horrible to reveal.
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They said that they did not know much about her family. She did not speak about them.
I typically look for the crazy introverted person at work and buy them lunch at least once a week.
Wow so thats why you keep buying me lunch!! 🤔
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If you dont buy me lunch... ima go postal. Favoritism is not appreciated! I demand taco bell!
Oh. We’re demanding food? That’s what we’re doing? Red Lobster!
Sharon Caputo anytime for the free pass during the chosen time
purchased a gun despite having a psych record...
Taurian Belle Thanks NRA!
in mexico if i undetstood well.mexico isnt the safest country
@@aaeyeshadowinthedark New Mexico, it's a state
Psych evals are not available from one state to the other. HIPPA laws prevent it. So even though she was committed in California they couldn't pass that onto New Mexico. Each state also has different criteria on purchasing firearms.
@@rachelmartin3631 wow. I wasn't aware of this. That's scary shit fr.😦
I CAN'T STAND when people begin their stories (which they all do) with "Well, it started out like any ordinary day." WTF OTHER KIND OF DAY IS THERE? Unless you woke up with your head sewn to the carpet, just leave that part out.
Lol I'm crying well it started out such a nice sunny day
@@louisegross3886 9/11 "Well it started out as an ordinary day..." Fucking fuck. What other kind of day is there?
u nasty
The government don't take mental health serious and this is why things happen!
Its complex though when you have many medical doctors / psychiatrists who only care about making money through writing prescriptions. I had really bad anxiety and for the first time ever I had a doctor write me a prescription to help with anxiety. When I asked the doctor since it was a new script, what side affects I should be aware of so I can contact him. He just looked at me and scowled, you can GOOGLE it. Even many drug rehab centers only care about money. And psychology is a pseudo science. I have seen some therapists suggest EFT 'cures' Combat/Complex PTSD. Other therapists just let people talk and talk and talk as long as you can pay, that is all they care about (I know someone who went to a therapist for over 20 years, and she gets freaked out when he goes on vacation for a few weeks) I think there needs to be better standards/accountability in the mental health industry, then I would be open to having more tax dollars spent on helping those in need. As often the mentally ill cannot afford to pay (or they don't have the health insurance that a mental health professional or facility accepts).
its the christian church and the families job to help individuals with spiritual illness not the government
Yes absolutely true and if you see this happening you have to get the person help
@@rickc5566 Ah huh...I see what you did there, Reverend Falwell....nobody taking the bait?
The smeared lipstick mistaken for "war paint" would of been my red flag and would of asked for a transfer immediately.
Exactly
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They really didnt need to go into all that detail...they just coulda said she was schizophrenic...its obvious she was. They keep listing things just to make you see how weird she was....im like, yeah that sounds pretty normal for a paranoid schizo
@@Scorch428
You would have complained
@Lady Jupiter use asterisk: * to correct sentences next time. Thx
Why do they all say how pretty she was, what does that have to do with anything?
That made her go mad and shoot those people
People expect monsters to be ugly unkempt unwashed maniacs. If you go through the Ted Bundy case there is quite a bit about how early on people didn't suspect him because he was a nice looking well kept young man.
I think here it's more pronounced because it's men talking about a woman. Also women generally don't commit overtly violent crime so there may be a little more shock. I'm sure there's levels upon levels of complexity involved in answering why.
Because those kinds of people can only possibly see a woman's worth and status based on their looks. Even when they're popping mother fuckers in the head left and right. XD
They'll learn one day, some are, but even they are susceptible of going back to a woman's looks and how well she can make a Shake n' Bake meal every once and a while.
it seems like such a waste that's all!
Carrie Hanifen looks like lot of guys found her attractive.
This evil woman took my aunt away from my family. My heart still hurts 16 years later 💔
I am so sorry 😞 for your loss.
what was the name of your aunt
Condolences 🙏
Sorry for your loss ❤
The woman as crazy as she was on her writings she wrote coherent and to the point “conspiracy theories”
Her idea about nazism in us government has some legs, but the rest was too much
@@Ynotnow9900 Does the Racist Press exist?
@Gracie_R: The police officer interviewed here said that her writings did not make a lot of sense.
Woe!??😳1 murder in 14 YEARS??!! We dont go 14 HOURS without a homicide in my city, Baltimore! I cant imagine going 14 YEARS not hearing about a murder, damn! That even sounds strange! Cant imagine how it'd feel🤯😳
That's because Baltimore has been ruled by the Democrats since the time of the Dinosaurs...
It is obvious by reading comments on this video that people do not understand how the "system" works. She was initially treated, for 72 hours. Coworkers, neighbors etc can call the police until they are blue in the face, it is almost impossible to get anyone committed these days. Even if you are related to the mentally ill person. The police don't have that authority/power and neither do coworkers.
What's up with that crazy, it should just take a one quick phone call to the nervous hospital, and away they go Like judy garland. I know for real I would definitely try and get my ex wife boss a couple neighbors and My Uncle Ray on my dad's side Up to Bellevue for some much needed rest Thorazine, and Jehovah's witness deprogramming.
Wrong its quite easy. You tell the police they are threating suicide
And even if you do get them committed....there is no treatment just pills that don't work. Patients quickly learn what they are supposed to say to get out....so they learn to lie to be released....then get out....stop meds.......
Nope and neither does family oftentimes. That's why there's such a high mortality rate. Usually they just kill themselves not go on killing sprees. That's important to note. .
Kristine B and that needs to change.
The fact that a grown woman who had a imaginary friend was able to buy a gun
DatGrA2b there will always be a black market for weapons.
@@icaruswithovaries did she get hers from the black market?
@@DatGrA2b good point. But. even if she couldn't get a gun, this llady for sure would've taken a car and run over a bunch of people or pulled a Bejing and knifed 30 people to death. Why the fuck are these people all the sudden going on killing sprees? This wasn't a problem decades ago, when we had even less gun laws..
DatGrA2b I’m not sure we were provided that information within that video but the fact stands that gun laws will not prevent a motivated person from obtaining a weapon. Do you think gang members are going into sporting goods stores and going through the proper application process? If you honestly believe that ANY law can prevent crime 100% you are delusional.
ANYONE.. can get a gun from the black market, on any day.
Disarming the general public and/or law-abiding citizens to “stop gun crime” is nothing but liberal lunacy.
Knives, cars, acid.. criminals will use whatever.
Taking away guns or the 2A is NOT the answer.
Ever.
Mental illness is real....and this is why I am getting help for my depression. I don't want to snap one day and do something crazy.
Jennifer is as much the victim here as she is the perpetrator. So sad....😥
She is not a victim. She slaughtered people.
When I worked at the PO; I was aware that people might go off; so I made escape plans just in case something happened and I always kept my car keys in pocket. Truthfully there were a couple of times I thought something might happen!
What a scary thing to have to deal with. Did you end up retiring or quitting?
@@nikki7287 actually I quit but my brother has 25 years at same location
what do you think is the unique factor that separates post offices..?
I talked to a couple of postal workers
They told me it’s a very stressful environment
Glynis McLehan. Wow, scary!
This was a very avoidable issue that ended up happening. She should have been placed into care for her mental state long before she ever went back to that post office! Smh
California is a state which makes it VERY difficult to institutionalize a mentally ill person because of the "stigma" attached. They trusted her to take her meds and I remember well the nights when she didn't...
@@s.marcus3669 Must have been awful having to deal with her when she wouldn't take her meds.
@@Missditabomb Fortunately, she was more irrational and bizarre than combative. A lot of the women employees would walk across the plant to use another restroom if they knew she was in one of them because that meant she was usually arguing with her reflection in the mirror...
@@s.marcus3669 Sad. Actually, it is the irrational and bizarre that I would be most concerned about. You never know what it TRULY going on with them, or going to happen, as evidenced by this terrible tragedy. The "loud mouths" let you know what is going on. Terrible position for all of you workers to be in. So sorry for what you had to go through and the friendly workmates that you lost.
I always love the Narrator’s voice
The broken mental health system is accountable for this preventable tragedy
So sad! Seeing full grown men cry at the memories is haunting! God bless all the victims and their families and loved ones 💜
We had to watch this for a counseling program I attended. Every woman in the class (all 25 of them) laughed when they saw the men crying, and made comments that's what happens when you don't treat women fairly and let them do what they want.
@@gregoryunderwood4121 I can’t believe those women laughed! Shame on them! I’m sorry.
@@gregoryunderwood4121 Just as sick as anyone male or female saying these killings were justified cuz that's what happens when you piss people off.
@@gregoryunderwood4121 that is DISGUSTING that the women laughed at these heroic men who expressed feelings! And these women were in a classroom setting to become “counselors”?! Unbelievable…
@@gregoryunderwood4121 how is that funny?
She is delusional and is allowed to buy a gun? That is insanity.
This was before background checks.
@@OneVoiceMore They should have always done background checks. Its insanity to hand over weapons to people like this.
@@berly9397 Who lives in hypothetical land?
Fact is, you COULDN'T always do background checks. She waited the three-day period for a handgun.
@@LoveShackSarah88 What do you mean by; she focuses her delusions on your child? Guns are an issue. A delusional person + a gun is disastrous. Women are in general less violent but you should still be careful.
It's called freedom and if you don't like it you can leave 👋
He's like "I thought she was a catch @ 11 years old" riiiiiiight
Most of them couldn’t even speak they were so choked up with tears. This is really sad. God bless everyone.
Christina were all white
You know this is a moving story when every single person that was interviewed was brought to tears whether former employees, reporters, or law-enforcement. Everybody felt the same pain that day and it is hard to watch them relive it.
needs more ads. there was this true crime show interrupting the ads.
It's that way on tv as well LMAO
Install AdBlock Plus for your browser.
@@damienholland8103 on my phone?
Pay for RUclips premium
@@passedtense436 This is a trick that works through the phone. Watch the last seconds, or so, of the video until it ends. Then restart the video and the ads will be gone.
It works through android Chrome and the RUclips app (I tested it to make sure again before telling you).
I have not tried AdBlock through my phone because I normally don't watch videos via phone (just PC).
I would think the war paint lipstick would also be a major red flag! Wtf
Everyone is so emotional it’s refreshing to see humans have emotions these days
What , talking to her imaginary friend ..... 😳😳😳 why didn't anyone say anything !!! Lots of red flags.
60% of Americans talk to their imaginary friend on a regular basis.
60 percent? Or 60 Americans.
@@black_horse_lover2655 No I missed the % sign. My keyboard is dying.
corydoras
Oh ha ha, I’m sorry about your keyboard. Where did you find that number?
Did your imaginary friend tell you that?
To those asking for another Photo: She hadn't family to SHARE pics with. her D.L. was what the producers Had. After all that the Postal employees had to deal with...Take a hint!
Dexter was the only person who was concerned for her and reported it, it's unfortunate that they just let her go but I mean nobody could really for see this.. and she came back for him
Hello 🌹🌹
And THAT is how the majority of law enforcement feel about ANY victim, much less a horrific mass casualty event. Human. Pure, and raw emotion. I wish people understood that. God bless the victims and their families.
We need more Mental Institutions then Prisons.................
@Dogs Sing LOL I like that.............
Such a smart statement, prevention is so important
@Sleeper 1776 Get Back in your basement!
@Tanielu Stowers What are U a ..Spelling Cop? lol
In an ideal world, she would have been medicated and monitored. This isn't an ideal world.
Mental health needs to be one of the top priorities! Also, seeing these men cry really got me. How horrific and traumatic 😢
almost impossible to get mental health help, the services are run on string right budgets
We need to, as a society, as school systems starting in kindergarten, preschool and before accept mental health which is more accurately physical health, to stop having one kind of normal and talk about it as education everyone needs.
They practice this in Turkey, at school and their upbringing
Ok is that the only pic they’ve got of her?
Adwoa Hanson lol seems like it
Probably. As her former coworkers described, she was anti-social, so naturally there would be few photos of her. Besides, she's dead and not on the run; there's no reason to study her appearance through an array of images of her.
@Carrier-Crow maybe a midlife crisis going on as well.
Right
Adwoa Hanson ikr??
I like the documentary but I believe images of the victims should have been included to honor them...
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@VixenTheFox I appreciate NZ for doing that. It's tough to forget being such a racist incident.
Yeah that's is true
Ouranus.blogspot.com
@@raulnj46 ouranus.blogspot.com
Truth is stranger then fiction?
When the police admits to dangerous driving 🤦🏻♀️😂
I used to work for the postal service and there are a lot of mentally unstable people working there. The only problem is rarely will anyone do anything about the reports that you do file
they keep saying she's pretty but she looks like Adam Sandler .
Sigourney weaver .not Adam sandler.youre probably from california.
😂 Adam Sandler 😂
Your definitely form California
Right??? I was about to say that. 😂😂
St thst time there was little makeup no fillers etc sll natural so she probably was very beautiful.
She had a great life compared to 99% of people on earth.
A condo in Santa Barbara and a career and a pension.
Our it's not a material problem, it's a mental problem
Coy Leigh my brother trained her.
He said half the time she was nice as could be. Half the time she was completely out of it.
How'd that great life, condo and pension work out!? 🤔
Calvin Royal for 99% of people it works great.
Nothing great about schizophrenia!! Are you kidding? I wouldn't wish that on my worst enemy.
This happens every day in this world. Nobody wants to get involved with people who are bullied, has mental problems, sits alone by themselves, depressed, etc. Only when the people commit violence or harm themselves, is when the people around them, speak up and or regret not doing something about it. All these people needed, in reality, was friends and or people who they can talk to. Going to mental counseling, or put in a mental clinic or institution, won't solve their problems. Real people, like you and me, can help them in big ways because we're real, not someone being paid to help them or listen to them.
Facts!!!
Thank you.
The really good guys in the video are those who cried for the victims. May God bless them in all their ways.
@spirals 73 Indeed yes and you are one of them as well. Take care.
Extraordinary circumstances can drive anyone to the extreme of homicide. For that reason, I always put forth a conscious effort to avoid deliberately antagonizing people. But even then, of course, there are no guarantees.
Paul Christman Totally disagree. I could not be driven to murder. It’s weird that you think that and I hope you don’t own a gun.
Diane Taylor
Perhaps you've had a sheltered life, Ms. Taylor, and perhaps you're young. I apologize for splitting hairs here, it's just that the term 'homicide' refers to any deliberate killing of a human being, including during time or conditions of war, or in self-defense or defense of others. Perhaps, as well, you've been raised to believe that women should be meek and submissive to the point of helplessness. If so, I think that this is tragic, and I hope that you become a stronger person, because your children, if you have any, will need you to fight for them if necessary. Finally, allow me to say that I don't think that you know yourself as well as you think you do.
I have never seen coworkers talking to an 'imaginary friend'. If I did I would have told management. To not say anything when they first saw her was very stupid.
Well they did contact the manager and she we seen by mental health professionals. Unfortunately there's only so much that can be done if a person won't cooperate.
So many wackos in workspaces who never shoot people. Can't report everything weird you see.
@@Proud-Ally yeah imagery friends unite against imagery friendism ... Imagenary friends have a voice too,, its just a shame we are the only ones who hear it, lol..my Imagenary friend says your comment was great by the way,, he is called Pazuzu by the way too.. Lol..
@@ylekiote99999 😂😂😂
@@Proud-Ally my imaginary friend says your comment was brilliant.
It’s tragic how people saw the signs but didn’t get her the help she needed 😕
It was mentioned that whrn police took her. They recommended her treatment of Schizophrenia. But she refused the treatment. It should not be matter of choice but treatment should have been made compulsory for her
While I agree wholeheartedly that this is a very tragic event...as someone who battles mental illness (depression), who gets to decide who's crazy? And who decides whom to lock up? Having a bad day at work, ranting and raving on your way home? Oh seems crazy. Lock them up, right, cause they MIGHT take it further? Sounds crazy? In some countries if you speak out they consider you crazy - at best - and lock you up. NOBODY in America should have that kind of power over others! I am in no WAY, SHAPE, OR FORM condoning what she or any others have done. My heart goes out to the friends, families, and loved ones of the victims. And again I am NOT saying that what she did was ok just because she was nuts. I'm just saying if we locked up everybody that acted or seemed crazy at some point...there wouldn't be a whole Lotta people left roaming around.
Well clearly nobody cares about her. Nobody mentioned any family or even friends she had so clearly she had absolutely nobody.
This shooting and the Eliot Rogers shooting happened within a couple miles of each other. What is in the drinking water around here?
Eliot Rogers was also mentally ill and he committed his crime in Goleta also. End of story.
@@s.marcus3669 Isla Vista, but it’s where the UCSB students live next to Goleta. I grew up here and went to UCSB.
@@robpolaris5002 Isla Vista is not a "city", it's an unincorporated town in the County of Santa Barbara. It borders Goleta, so it's IN Goleta. Much the same way that the Santa Barbara P & DC (Processing & Distribution Center, where I worked and knew JSM) is in Goleta...
@@s.marcus3669 Where did I say Isla Vista is a city?
@@robpolaris5002 You didn't, Rob. But you differentiated Isla Vista from Goleta and it's not germane to anything. Kinda like saying: "I'm flying out of Goleta". Where?? Ohhhhhhhhhhhh, Santa Barbara, why didn't you just say so...
When she started put on lipstick on as war paint LOOK out and get ready.
Right?!
Right 🤣🤣 I would've immediately reported her ass
@@GoldRosePetals & Jessica Burchell & Bornonfire, Jennifer needed psychiatric assistance *long before* a coworker *FINALLY took action* about her failing health and removal from the workforce and being admitted into a psychiatric hospital. Her coworkers should have been compassionate and approached her once they noticed her speaking aloud *in conversation* with a *non-existent personality* (rather than just voicing aloud personal thoughts or reactions to what she was doing, etc.), asking how things were going, what was happening in her life and relationships and health and diet, and over time, after a while... if she was really doing alright, generally, etc. *Simply being humane and supportive* (rather than controlling, prejudiced/prematurely judgmental, and Gestapo-like) in order to find out if there was a reason to be seriously concerned (which there was; a severe, *worsening psychotic disorder* and likely a *personality disorder* as well) and then approaching a humane supervisor in regard to her *being her -- BEFORE* -- she became agitated and angry.
Bornonfire Exactly!!
@@OakleyANDSittingBull Except she shut down and stopped speaking to them, wouldn't even answer anyone, if you recall. Prior to that she had been friendly & smiling, even when occasionally talking to herself. Also, in such a LOUD environment it's not easy to make such 'intimate' conversation. They said a lot of the people even chose to wear earplugs or headphones due to the noise.
She thought the government was controlling people, Ummmm.
MK-Ultra. Unfortunately is a fact not a conspiracy. And anybody who WANTS to learn about it can.
Project Paperclip. Dr Josef Mengele. Beta Programming, Monarch Programming. The Three City States and their connection to The Bilderburg Group. etc etc etc etc
documentary called The Minds Of Men by Aaron + Melissa Dykkes proved the government was in fact, doing what this woman claimed back in the 70's
The documentary has outstanding research and investigation, well documented, showing the documents and patents that were made at the time.
the Lying Scotsman
Sadly, she's RIGHT
Actually, Soros is trying
@@italiantraditionalcatholic2390 Fuck your god, fuck religion.
Stop trying to shove it down people's throats. You believe in hell and satan, I take it.
Shoving religion down the throats of others is a very reasonable way to go to hell.
Or for someone to get fed up and kill you themselves.
Understand that there are many many people who don't like or don't believe and will stick to not wanting to believe. Stop. Its annoying as fuck.
To tell you the truth she had issues but she wasn't that far off in what she wrote. There's crazy shit going on that the general public has no idea of or just resist to acknowledge
We're alll sheep
You can see the trauma this caused for everyone involved, I really hope they can find peace.
You can see how hurt those deputies are after this event. Heart wrenching! When she was admitted to the hospital those psychs should’ve done more for her.. she should’ve stayed longer than 72hours. Clearly she needed more help than she was getting and innocent lives were lost that could’ve been prevented.
Unfortunately she had the right to refuse treatment and leave after the 72hr hold. Healthcare workers can be charged and jailed for detaining people that have the right to leave
@@GW-gz8jh Thank you... why is everyone an armchair expert on things they’ve clearly no experience of now? Anyone working in mental health would’ve fixed this if it was that bloody simple as the first tiny kindergarten level opinion of someone sat on RUclips.... we spend our entire careers watching this revolving door of forming people and releasing them, hoping they dont die or hurt someone else inbetween.
Why does no one bother to research how truly complex this issue is before running their mouths spreading bad information? Uninformed opinions are not facts.
I see people commenting who cant even distinguish between NCR (not criminally responsible) true mental illness and a personality disorder or a sociopath... so much for armchair expertise.
I have never seen police officers show grief to that extent. It was very touching.
Susan Jordan, as a former police officer, I am grateful that you recognized the emotional pain of these officers. That is the very reason why I am no longer a police officer, it is hard to describe to people the trauma that we witness over the years in our desire to prevent things like this from harming the public we are sworn to protect. When you realize you cant prevent every tragedy and you see the victims, and especially death, it leaves emotional wounds that sometimes never heal.
@@edmccaffrey1 I am sure. Thank you for your sacrifice. Some of us really do appreciate it. 💙
Really touching to see those tough, seasoned police officers crying while talking about the experience. Really touching. I cried with them.
@Steven Hunter And you'd be one of the first to call them if you were scared.
so vital cops have humanity. seems it'd be an uphill battle with things they see. I always see ego, with each interaction..sad.
I feel so sad for everyone involved. Unbelievable.
Why is it unbelievable it and everyday. And gets worse everyday. People have mental issues and are lashing out at the world. Drug problems and mental health issues are rampid
Lol..hahaha
Goin' postal used to be a cliche in the 1980s/90s.
It comes from postal workers shooting up the workplace beginning with Patrick Sherrill who killed 14 people
You right!
"Most women aren't that violent." - Oh yeah? Give me a gun, and you'll see how violent I can be. BTW, I'm a "middle-aged petite woman. LOL
Soooo many times this woman could have been helped. This case is so horribly sad.
The USPS only helps drug addicts
Very sad. She obviously suffered from schizophrenia
"most women aren't that violent"
Neither are most men.
lochinvar00465 exactly
lochinvar00465 Agreed. Statistically speaking, however, men are far more likely to be the culprits in violent crimes. Poor choice of words though I agree.
Kentucky Mama I said statistically speaking. Look it up. Not trying to argue, just stating a fact...
Also I’ve seen many instances where a father killed his children. Usually they’ll kill the wife also but not always.
@lochinvar00645, this is the problem with society mollycoddling women and giving them a free pass
@@danrich5628 that's actually not true, most (if not all) studies into lesbian or wlw domestic violence are not as thorough or have a large enough data pool. There are studies that have shown both a higher and lower rate of domestic violence because of this. So it's unfair to say it as if it were fact.
All the warning signs,we ignore others until it's to late
We see it. We flag them. Then what? What exactly do you propose they do?
As soon as someone mentions getting help, everyone cries it's not fair to mentally ill people to force them to get help
So, she came to work with clown lips and talked to an imaginary friend who made her progressively more angry... and nobody saw any cause for concern? These didn't seem like red flags to anyone?
"What's wrong with Jen?" "I dunno. She painted her face and started arguing with herself again." "Meh. Let her be. She'll be fine."
Hindsight...
Cause none of the people cared or gave a shit at all.
They should have called about her, at least they could have taken her to hospital for a psych eval!
Why did no one just 'say' she was a paranoid schizophrenic who wasn't taking medication?? In the video it mentions she was evaluated and even committed 'involuntarily' for 72 hours. By deduction with her hallucinations and 'imaginary friends' I can only assume that this was what the problem was.
They're so overworked with so many coming in that it's not that hard for any of them to get released. Mental hospitals almost may as well not exist in that case. It's severely underfunded
R Vandenburg EXACTLY! I was waiting for it but we just kept hearing from criminologists.
Because most likely she wasn't, its very common in workplaces to be harassed and labeled in such a way, its called workplace mobbing, and most of the time they get away with it.
You can't diagnose someone without their being present. That's why it wasn't said. Further it could open the show to lawsuits because they're claims, not facts. They'd need her medical records for that.
Also psychiatrists are notoriously bad at diagnosing. And they often prescribe things like SSRIs to patients with Bipolar, which makes them worse.
@@anglojojo threat assessment torture..done by custom text with approval of infraguard appointed postal supervisor
Illegal under un laws
Illegal and subject to huge victim appointed liens on the perps house,car,bank account ( www.inpowermovement.com)
USA is s corporation..infraguard is a corporation,police are a corporation,postal is a corporation so you fine them under commerce law in the corporation for court services.
It makes those assholes personally responsible for their actions
This poor woman needed help. The coworkers should have said something to the supervisors. She needed mental help. She was losing touch with reality. She took having imaginary friends to a new level. They should have followed up on her after she was released from the hospital. This is so sad.
A co-worker 'did' say something. Did you not listen to the story.
17:15 So she was showing signs of schizophrenia and nobody did anything? Welcome to the modern age.
And what exactly are they supposed to do? Please tell. You can't force anyone to take treatment. So all we do is flag people and hope for the best.
I have several imaginary friends. All my life. I'm lonely without them. The trick is keeping them inside my head. I'm still plausibly sane thanks.
Hello, how are you doing my friend?
Yes !! ...good friend ! ...ah , you don't live near philadelphia ..do you ?
no youre not.
You have to try to let "them" go. You cannot grow intellectually or emotionally by only conversing with yourself (or other aspects of yourself). I'm the most introverted agoraphobic you can imagine, so this isnt coming from an extroverted party animal.
We all have two seperate personalities (as shown in medical trials where people had the central nerve stem cut, both halves of the brain had independent personalities). But usually they cooperate to form a higher self that is "me".
So thats all fine, we all have our own internal dialogue in our daily lives.
But you should not mistake them as "friends", they're you. Just different aspects of "you".
They're not other people, and as such you shouldnt talk about (or to them) them as friends.
You're talking with yourself. You CAN self-help to some degree, by reasoninng your way past depression and temporary loneliness, but this isnt a real solution.
Because you're not getting a real relief from loneliness, you're getting a self-induced false relief from loneliness, you're essentially lying to yourself, because the lie is better than the loneliness.
I get that. We all get that. We're all equally lonely at some points in our lives.
I have zero friends in my town, i have zero lovers, zero girlfriends, unemployed, barely go out.
So how do i cope with loneliness instead of manifesting imaginary lies in my mind?
I have the internet, i talk with real people on the internet.
Ask yourself, could your own imaginary friend ever have come up with the message i just wrote you?
No, because they are you, thus they can never offer you anything more than you already know, more than you already think, subconciously.
And perhaps thats part of the appeal, the lack of challenge, the lack of disagreements. They can never disagree with you, or challenge your self-diagnosis for whats best for you, because you are them.
They're forever chained to your main personality's desire for them to pander to you.
They're not free. Let go of them.
I have no friends, no family, I want to just be alone and die alone soon. I hurt everyday, I can’t sleep, it takes everything to just get through a day, most days I stay in bed or I stay inside. I broke my back years back and just over the years had to have another surgery which made things worse. I’m dueling with several arthritic issues as well as Chrones and other intestinal issues. If I eat I get sick, if I don’t I get sick… I just want things to end soon. I thought about how I’d like to do it. I want to drive to a place far away a place in the woods in the back hills and camp out for a few days then do what is slowly being done to me. Maybe I’ll never be found and that’s perfect as I don’t have a grave or money for a funeral… I don’t know, it’s lonely out here and theirs nothing I can do. I went from making $85,000 to disability and everyone left me when I got sick all the people, friends, family and wife as well as my one and only son….. I’m just over this.
@@survivallife7401 .
There is nobody at all to help you ?? ...i feel so bad ...somebody should be there for you ...
So NOBODY Thought To Do ANYTHING About Her Walking Around With An Imaginary Friend??
She was an unmedicated schizophrenic
Who do you call?? I wouldn't know who to call... Tough one -- my father was/is schizophrenic in his earlier 20s (1980ish) and it still took years to find help... Now if this was 2006 and people still don't know who to call then that's a problem. It's not like there's a 911 for psychiatry
@@judithcasey9044 yeah, I know who to call now obviously my dad is schizophrenic... My point is the fact that you had to write a lengthy reply instead of saying a universal phone number... Plus you still didn't explain who you call if you see a neighbor acting strange.. You certainly can't find out their psychiatrist name or primary physician in order to call them... The police can't do anything about a person praying at odd times and talking to themselves
Plus it seems inappropriate calling the cops on someone you care about
I can't seem to make even one imaginary friend. No idea where to find them🤣
@@Waiting4Him111 Which is worse, imaginary friends or enemies ?
Son of Sam admitted to making up the whole “talking to a Dog” thing. Another case of a mentally ill person killing other people and after the fact people say “uh, yeah I noticed she was acting out violently and weird” ....but never bothered to say anything about it. And there would be nothing wrong with a single woman owning a handgun in a remote area to protect herself....but those who saw her weird behavior still did nothing or wanted to get involved. And why wasn’t there help for her before they terminated her from the Post Office? Most job stress is a paramount event in a lonely persons life....anyone who interacted with her had the chance to reach out and try to help her. The fact remains that there were several red flags way before this event happened. The sensationalism is all people think about or react to...it’s PART of the problem itself and everyone wants to point fingers when we all are guilty. Help someone in distress and care enough to act. I’m not an expert, just my opinion.
kg6qzx depends on the person tho. She probably could have been helped but some others are just truly evil.
kg6qzx An astute observation. To share a bit, I was one who had serious stress related issues. My boss at the time pulled me into his office for a long talk. He said I needed some counseling, because I was acting out irrationally way too often. He understood where the anger might be coming from. He spurred me on to seek help, and I found it. He was a good guy.
Well said.
Agreed. No doubt
kg6qzx Well said! Getting any kind if decent mental health counseling in USA is hard! Most private social workers, clinical psychologist aren't accepting new " clients" which translates into they don't accept Medicare insurance ! If you have $300 for a 30 minute session they might squeeze you in, but I doubt it! So , someone who needs help goes to a public mental health clinic where the so called counsellors are sadistic
*The day was unusually clear...*
There was the first red flag and everybody missed it.
I find it strange that none of her co-workers putatively spoke with her directly. What kind of comment could she have made to her colleague Dexter Shannon, about the former employee suicide, that was so disturbing? That struck me as so odd. Have these people never heard of people having different opinions, and to confront their issues head-on? And why does it matter if she was attractive?
Oy vay, John, there is so MUCH you don't know, I don't know where to begin, as someone who worked there and knew her, albeit superficially. As for your last question, that I can answer: humans tend to attribute good looks to good behavior and conversely, bad guys all have thin mustaches that they stroke or ugly faces uttering: "pressshhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhussssss". Sometimes Occam's Razor is the answer.
Thanks for the upload. I wish people with emotional problems had better access to diagnostics and treatments. Hospitals say they have no funding but money should come from somewhere and as a consequence there would be less crime, including murders.
Short GIraffe, What happened to all the mental hospitals?
Mental hospitals (at least ones I've been in as a visitor) are dirty, disqusting, horrible places, staff terrifying patients, most patients were so drugged up they were like zombies. Mental hospitals not only need to be cleaned/revamped, better trained staff including the so called Drs.
It seems people who may need mental health treatment simply do not matter. Patients are nothing more than $$ in deep pockets Mental hospitals are institutions to keep people drugged & locked up. Thank goodness in recent years, it is very difficult to have someone involuntarily committed, in the past it was quite easy. Getting a person out was even harder. These institutions would put people in straight jackets and then stick them in isolation for long periods for the smallest reason, that's not treatment for any mental illness! I watched a patient who was speaking in a loud voice (not causing any disturbance), get tackeled, put in a straight jacket & thrown onto a stretcher and drugged (by at least 8 staff members) and then moved to isolation. No warnings given, staff did not tell patient to lower voice at any time. The patient had no idea what was going on or why and was screaming in fear.
This is who Red Flag laws are supposed to catch and prevent something like this happening. Unfortunately all the red flag laws currently on the books would not have stopped this because all they do is remove guns and do nothing to help people like her.
Thank you Ronald Reagan for shutting down a lot of mental facilities
Sherry Heitz most "treatment" is a joke. Most people would be surprised that in psychiatric facilities patients are merely imprisoned and not even spoken to.
I couldn't do a policeman's job. The emotional part would kill me
WizzardOfPaws very draining
Every single person that called the police to report the shooting sounded like they were ordering a pizza. Really odd.
EVERYONE is weird hahaha.
3:10 _"We had just gotten our cups, for us to fill ourselves with, from our drinks, from the fountain"_
WHO TALKS LIKE THAT? xD
@@Baleur Hahaha seriously, that was so awkward.
It's America it happens daily.
What a tragedy....for the perpetrator and of course, for the victims.