The Never Before Seen Fighter
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- The massive American bomber formation of more than 1000 bombers plus over 500 escort fighters seemed endless. The sky was filled with them.
The Americans were confident. Allied air supremacy reigned over all of Germany, but rumors of a new Luftwaffe aircraft so fast it could barely be seen had been spreading alarmingly.
But few believed them until, suddenly, bomber after bomber was shot down with accurate cannon fire that tore them to pieces. As the P-51s scrambled to search for the intruders, dozens of twin jet engines roaring with power joined the cacophony of war.
Over 35 Messerschmitt 262s, jet fighters streaked through the skies and unleashed a barrage of 30-millimeter cannon fire against the bomber formation.
Their swept-wing design gave them never-before-seen maneuverability, making them difficult to track for the hundreds of P-51s. Quick and accurate bursts were more than enough to wreak havoc in the formation.
As the Allied aircraft swarmed the small pack of the world’s first jet-powered fighters, the Me 262s swiftly disappeared on the horizon, victorious at the cost of minimal casualties.
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Nothing finer than German engineering. The most amazing innovations of the 20th century came from Germany. engines, automobiles, aircraft and numerous others.
Jetzt können sich andere mal beweisen😂
i beg to differ. The Scots invented anything worth a damn
Don't forget space travel, thanks to Werner von Braun and others.
Yup, that s true.
@@peterrollinson-lorimer Saturn 5 107 000 000 Hp Lift off ! WOW
My relative, an Austrian was the 3rd to 5th top ace of the Luftwaffe, Walter Nowatny. After more than 250 victories on the Eastern Front he was transferred back to Germany to fly the Me262. He died in 1944 at age 23 in a Me 262 while returning from a bomber attack. It was reported that he lost one engine and was attacked while trying to land by P-47s or P-51s which was the American tactic. Because of acute shortages of replacement parts most 262s were lost because of engine failure and secondary shot down while trying to land. The awful bomber losses were paid back by crippling the interceptors in their most vulnerable areas. A side note was his/my cousin flew 30 missions in B17s and survived the war.
Your story only exemplifies the stupidity of war. Talented young men and women cut down in their prime. What a waste of life.
The Me 262 and all of the German wonder weapons were all too little too late
Very cool story. It is very likely that second or third cousins and maybe first cousins fought each other in Europe. My uncle flew B24s at the end of the war but against Japan. He was just about to fly to Japan for a mission when the war ended. If he had been sent to Europe earlier, he might have been killing relatives.
And I bet that like 99% of Luftwaffe pilots he NEVER took a dishonorable kill by shooting at a plane that was doomed or a Airman that had bailed out and was parachuting
@@Idahoguy10157everything was a little to late to win cause no one had the balls to kill that piece of sh¡t Adolf Hitler!!!!!
He was the soul of demise of the third Reich
Quick comment, the “MK” in the designation of the cannons doesn’t stand for “Mark.” It’s an abbreviation for “Maschinekanone”, the German word for automatic cannon.
The National Museum of the U.S. Air Force at Wright-Patterson AFB has a pristine 262, as a juvenile I used to walk around looking at it for an accumulation of Hours. They also have a very rare water cooled In-line engine FW 190, Germans knew how to build aircraft if left alone.
The ME 262 Project built five reproductions (with modern engines that aren't a deathwish) at Paine Field a little north of Seattle. My dad used to take my brother and I to see the process since my mom worked near there, they were always very nice and let us walk around their shop, it was extremely cool. I remember being like 8 and saved up $10 of my allowance money to donate to them, I was so proud to help lol. Their first one flew in 2002 and they finished the project in 2012, all five went elsewhere but the Flying Heritage and Combat Armor Museum on the same airfield recently reopened and has a restored me262 with original engines.
That whole museum is awesome, a lot of their collection is flyable and they do airshow events in the summer. It feels good to see pristine museum pieces with drip pans underneath to catch the fluids that seep out because they actually fly the things instead of being forever relegated to stationary art.
Hitler did not consider jet aircraft important until it was too late.
Planes of Fame, in Chino, Calif., also has one...think they also have a 163 Komet.
I've read that an original 262 is being restored to flying condition. It will fly with original Junkers Jumo 004 engines, overhauled with custom-built parts made using modern materials and technology.
@@JoebobinatorNot reproductions, the are real Messerschmitt Me-262 designated C models, they are 100% genuine builr under license from Messerschmitt and issued consecutive serial numbers.
Ironic that you should mention that being the GE J85 were designed with no Nickel alloys and had a much shorter PFTR.
Für mich nach wie vor das schönste Flugzeug der Zeit !
Me262 is a beautiful aircraft even in today's standards. Kudos to German engineers.
Swept wings and jet engines slung under the wings, it looks pretty modern. The sweep angle looks to be about the same as modern commercial planes.
It LOOKS like the "bad guy plane". It's like a black 1969 Dodge Charger, everybody knows which wallet is his.
There’s a nice example on display at the Smithsonian Air and Space museum in DC.
kaideechu: Oh my yes it could fly for many minutes. And was so reliable. Reminds me of a modern BMW.
@@stephencurry8552Spare us your hate speech and ignorant misinformation.
The Jumo 109-004B Orkan engines exceeded the RLMs 100 hours PFTR requirements for adoption into Luftwaffe service.
According to vehicle registration statistics BMWs are among the longest lasting cars in the world.
And it was seriously good looking too. So stylish.
Seen one in the Deutsche Museum in Munich. Beautiful indeed.
Most beautiful aircraft ever, imo. ( Xf-11 and Tu-114 second and third) . You gotta think, they knew exactly the psychological effect it would have... Looking like a sky-shark. It couldn't have been easy to machine such beautiful curves outta sheet metal , 80 years ago.
Unless you were on the receiving end of those 30mm.....
@@MrBestshot33 yeah the german 30mm was no joke at all each high explosive round had the equivalent of a standard hand grenades explosives in them with a delayed fuse so that it would pass through the skin of the aircraft and detonate inside the aircraft the united states tested them after the war was over on old aircraft at a firing range and just 1 30mm shell could cleave the fuselage of most targets the tried it on in half they probably wouldnt do near as much damage to engines as armor piercing rounds but an aircraft cant stay in the air if its missing its wings and/or tail
One of the most beautiful (sexy) Military aircraft that ever flew. Smoke and sleek. It looks fast just sitting on the ramp. Like the F86 and English Electric.
AH was a fool when it comes to Me2672. Everyone told him that this airplane was designed and meant to be a fighter not a bomber. It could have been a major change in many battles, probably not changing the outcome of the war a la long, due to lack of german production capacities, but who knows. Anyway another masterpiece of german engineers.
That story unfortunately is a false urban myth, the delays in production were due to shortages of Nickel nothing to do with Hitler, he was actually 100% right, all modern jet fighters are multi-role Interceptor-Attack aircraft with bombing capabilities.
Exakt. Hitler diskutierte mit Milch heftig und Milch sagte: Herr Hitler das sieht doch jedes Kind das das ein Jäger ist. Das war 1941 ! Letztendlich wurde der Kampf gegen den Faschismus früher beendet.
The most ironic thing was, that there was already a jet bomber, the Arado Ar 234, which was way better suited for this role than the Me 262.
The Me 262 project started in 1940. It's further development was stopped by Göring in the summer of 1940 because he (like most people at this time to be fair) didn't understand the possibilities of the jet engine and besides didn't believe that such a fighter would be even necessary, because Germany would of course win the war in a short time. Messerschmitt went on to work on the plane but with no priority or real resources. And no admission. That changed years later in 1942/43. Hitlers obsession with a fast bomber focused on this clear fighter design (boogie153 is completely right with the Arado 234) further delayed the machine because of the changes needed to carry bombs and made it practically useless in combat: you were slow and you could not even hit something with it as a bomber because you could not even see your aim as a pilot.
If all this would have been different the jet could have appeared in large numbers in the german sky at some time in 1943 or at the beginning of 1944 latest, exactly the time when the Mustang changed the real history of the air battle over Germany and the Luftwaffe lost control forever. In the end just one more or less unsupported small fighter squadron (Gallands "Expertengeschwader 44") was created and permiited to use the plane as fighter and so to at least proof what the Me 262 really could do - or better: what it could have done. There were attacks of 6 jets maximum with the revolutionary new r4 rockets against thousands of bombers and hundreds of escort with some astounding results. But a a Me 262 pilot you were shot down when starting or landing by the overwhelming masses of conventional allied planes.
Imagine it would have been hundreds - and that a year earlier. The jet still would not have changed the outcome of the war since it was lost for Germany since the end of 1941 anyway. But the air over Germany at least at day time (and maybe in the dark also because it is said that the jet would have made a perfect night fighter) would have been a lot more hellish and deadlier for the allies than it was in reality anyway. And for the german pilots too of course.
A wonderful plane in the wrong hands and ironically ignored so long that it didn't count in the end. Luckily maybe.
One unrecognized problem with the ME262 was mentioned to me by an American pilot who transitioned from prop to jet aircraft. The German pilots were hindered by the lack of time to break habits learned in prop planes that created lift over their own wings, whereas jets don't. Had they been able to totally get accustomed to their craft, and explore its advantages, they would have been even more lethal in dogfights.
With a 100 mph speed advantage Allied fighters were completely outclassed by the Me-262.
@danielnowotny Then why was the Me-262 so successful in combat and Allied jets were such a complete failure???
@danielnowotny But during the Korean War it was jet vs. jet aerial combat..
As you just pointed out... there was no jet vs. jet fighting during WW2.
Only Germany had effective jet fighters in operational service.
@@WilhelmKarsten Se salvaron los alemanes que no los agarró el Lockheed F-80 que era muy superior al 262 .
De el F-80 luego se derivó toda una familia de aviones de combate .
Tambien el entrenador mas famoso del mundo , se construyeron miles , se trata del famoso T-33 , usado por mas de 50 Fuerzas Aéreas.
Se utilizaron desďe 1944 hasta el año de 2013 , los últimos se retiraron del servicio en Bolivia.
Su diseño , su técnica y su armamento, se prestaban a llegar a Europea. Pero se terminó la guerra. Se salvaron del F-80 A los alemanes.
@@rubenomarbueno1134 No, the Lockheed F-80 did not exist or ever saw service during WW2.
The P-80 was rushed into service without proper development and was plagued with serious technical issues and airworthiness problems that led to it spending most of the war grounded.
The P-80 was no match for the Messerschmitt Me-262... the P-80 only killed American pilots.
I heard no mention of the airplane’s Achilles heels. Slow to accelerate, prone to compressor stalls, and a ridiculously short engine life span of about 25 hours due to the lack of advanced metallurgy and production methods available for it’s production. I believe this was not because of the technology not having been developed, rather it was more a matter of getting it into the air with readily available assets.
And with the compressor stall tendency, I'd heard it wasn't particularly maneuverable unless you wanted an engine out.
Agreed, the lack of crucial alloying elements gave the turbine a short working life. The wing sweep was driven by centre of gravity considerations, the drag reduction was just a happy bonus. Manoeuvrability at speed wasn’t that wonderful, but suitable for hit-and-zoom tactics (like U.S. in Pacific to counter Japanese). Very vulnerable during takeoff / landing as the engines didn’t respond well to fast throttle movements. Problem was trying to develop engine during combat, consider early B-29 operations.
@@proteusnz99according to Eric 'winkle' Brown, chief RN test pilot, compressibility was beginning to be understood. The Germans realised that the the wing sweep could also help dissipate air resistance down the leading edges.
@@rob5944 yes, Brown rated the Me-262 as a better fighter than the Gloster Meteor, though subject to similar snaking problems. I was interested that he thought the He-162 might have been the best gun platform of the first generation jets, though hardly suitable for inexperienced pilots. Along with entering new areas of aerodynamics, the development cycles for these much more complex machines/engines was poorly understood, for example only one or two prototypes, so any accident could stall testing for months, or where the Hunter F1/Swift F1, F-84B/C/D were development batches to work the bugs out.
@@proteusnz99 well it was all brand new technology, in terms of jet propulsion, aerodynamics, tactics, in fact almost everything. What has always impressed me is how Germany could still make astounding progress, in under tremendous pressure. She was more than a match on the continent for any two of the three major Allies in my opinion.
Imagine how it sounded on the ground when 1500 planes went over. Even at altitude it had to be something to see/hear
Yes, stunning!
@@bill9540 My mother always said, when they heard it, they'd been running to the shelters. It has sounded like a far away thunderstorm. And my father was at his post to give the distance of the bomber stream to the Flak, he'd been rangefinder for the Flak.
The Me-262 was streamlined and had swept-back wings, hence its high rate of speed, 150 mph faster than the P51 propellor fighters.
A marvel of German engineering for its time. 🛬
Da kommt man mit Propeller nicht hin. Aber das Abfangen bei der Landung war eine erfolgreiche US Taktik und sehr effizient.
An advanced ‘aerial flow’ engine? Do you mean axial flow?
Imagine being sent up in a 262 that had 24 hrs on the engines.....wouldn't be a good day.
No different from any Allied piston engine plane..
@@WilhelmKarsten exactly
Niemand fliegt 24 Stunden am Stück in einen Jäger in der damaligen Zeit
Triebwerke waren so gebaut das man sie schnell wechseln konnte -ebend stand der damaligen Technik.
Ich glaube auch nicht das die heutigen Hightech Flugzeuge 2 Stunden in der Luft bleiben können ohne umfangreiche Wartung
@@WilhelmKarsten Go back to sleep!
@@jimandersen3003 Are you not familiar with WW2 era military aircraft engines???
The ME-262 the official first operational jet fighter. However, the plane was not truly ready for combat yet. The Americans, British and Russians suffered the same and more issues. One of the biggest issues faced by the jets (combat ready or not) was the fact there was not an instantaneous reaction from the engines when the pilot adjusted the speed. In terms of the 262 though the biggest issue was pilots did not have time to train on this brand new technology that not one as of yet had real experience with. Plus Hitler wanted the 262 to be a bomber
I will never understand that ridiculous doctrine Hitler enforced which meant that every aircraft in the Luftwaffe's arsenal was capable of bombing - had this not been a prerequisite of every German fighter aircraft they might have seen more success with less conventional designs, or at the least less fighters wasted on roles that they didn't excel at.
You have obviously never flown a jet aircraft...
All jets including modern ones with digital fuel controls are incredibly sluggish and slow to accelerate from flight idle with poor throttle response.
No jet fighter pilot would ever fly in a combat zone with less than 85% of military power.
@@tristanemery8748You don't understand a lot of things about military aircraft if that's your case.
Hitler has been absolutely proven correct by history..
Modern jet fighters are multi-role Interceptor-Attack aircraft with bombing capabilities.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 was no different from propeller driven fighters like the P-51 Mustang which also had hard points and could carry a similar bomb load, the Mustang also had a dedicated bomber variant *the A-36*
@@WilhelmKarsten my point was more that they were wasted in those roles, as they couldn't fill them to the best of their abilities. It was less of an issue with aircraft specifically designed for multi-role use like the mosquito, with it being rare for any aircraft of the day to be truly effective at multiple roles. I do agree with the statement that it's a good idea for aircraft to be able to fill more than just one role, though mainly with modern aircraft, which are much more expensive to produce than their 40s counterparts.
@@tristanemery8748 It's based on a rather infantile myth, a false narrative that has no historical significance or value. It's simply intended as an insult.
No historian or military scholar gives such things any credit, as I said it pure nonsense.
Most fighters then, as now also operate in the bomber role, fighters are by definition multi-role aircraft.
Man will sich nicht vorstellen was wäre wenn die Horten noch zum Einsatz gekommen wären.
If the Me 262 dropped your jaw then check out the Horton 229 flying wing 😍
Only one ever flew once and crashed and killed the pilot !!! A failure !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 Not counting the V1 glider that flew. The second prototype V2 flew under jet power, but only for about two hours total testing time before the fatal accident that killed Ziller. This was 18-Feb-1945 and the V3 third example was only 50% complete when Patton's forces captured the Gotha workshop in mid-April. The US let the RAF examine the V3 with some discussion of getting it in the air, but nothing came of that. That is the short history of the 229, certainly not what that NatGEO TV show implied.
The most revolutionary aircraft in history since the Wright Flyer, it rendered absolutely everything that came before it completely obsolete.
Haha! The fuhrer must've designed this himself.
@@Anglo_Saxon1 *Adolf Busemann conducted exhaustive testing of the Me-262 at the RLMs **_Luftfahrtforschungsanstalt_** supersonic wind tunnel laboratories in Braunschweig.*
*The Allies would not have supersonic aircraft wind tunnels until after the war.*
I saw the flying replica a few weeks ago at RAF Coningsby , even though a modern replica with modern engines etc' it still looked menacing .
That's not a replica, it's a genuine Me-262 "C" built under license from Messerschmitt.
@@WilhelmKarsten - exactly - just with modern, much smaller but stronger engines. Great piece !
@@icemanstg The GE J85 was designed by Gerhard Neumann and his team of Jumo engineers brought over by Operation Paperclip... Ironically the J85 originally designed for missiles only had designed life of just 2 hours!
@@WilhelmKarsten The Me 262 replicas are solely the product of the Texas Airplane Factory and Classic Fighter Industries and have nothing to do with DASA. CFI's right to build was bestowed by NAS in return for the restoration of Vera (which is now, according to you no longer an original Me 262). The only connections with anything Messerschmitt is that one of the replicas was bought by the Messerschmitt Foundation which is a privately owned historical preservation society which then gave its informal blessing to the use of the 'C' suffix and the use of consecutive serial numbers which have no meaning other than as serial numbers issued by TAF for the airframes that they produce. As you know Sandyboy EADS is not Messerschmitt. DASA was formed when Daimler-Benz took over MBB (itself a product of Bolkow's acquisition of Messerschmitt). DASA was later absorbed into EADS a joint French, Spanish and German venture. Messerschmitt is a legacy company of the international concern EADS as de Havilland is a legacy company of BAE Systems, the British company which is Europe's biggest defence contractor. Obviously CFI couldn't use original or even replicas of Ju 004 engines due to the appalling fragility and short life of the design, so instead they used the GE CJ610 which presented a problem that the considerably lower weight of the GE engines would significantly displace the CofG and require changes to the wings but instead they put the GE engine in the heavy casings of Ju 004 engine to achieve the require weight distribution. How ironic.
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know the team that Gerhard Neumann worked with at GE were Americans not nazis.
Das schlimme an der Doku ist die Computer Stimme
For the Germans too late and too little. A year earlier and years earlier this would have made a big difference .
Don't you hate it when the bad guys have the good looking gadgets.
Wait till you find out what was really going on in WWII..
The P-51 and Spitfire just entered the chat room and laughed.
262’s killed a lot of bombers with minimal casualties? Your inaccuracies know no bounds
The Messerschmitt Me-262 was highly effective in combat, the Allies had absolutely nothing comparable to the German jets.
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know the Me 262 was very ineffective, not least because of its crappy engines. Of 1400 Me 262s built, your nazi heroes struggled to get more than thirty in the air at one time and many those promptly fell out of it again or were shot out of it by Allied fighters.
The Allies certainly had nothing to comparable to the crappiness of the German jets, and as you know, whereas the P80, Meteor and Vampire had long service careers with many air forces, the Me 262 lasted barely seven years and only served with two are forces, one of which didn't want it.
Yep. My studies say a lot of ME 262s died on take off and landing not by being attacked. Ahead of their time but very finicky and problematic and in real world did not see much action.
@@jimandersen3003 Sorry Jimbo, 26 Luftwaffe 262 pilots scored Ace or higher shooting down over 550 Allied aircraft... Kurt Welter remains the highest scoring jet Ace in history.
Allied jet aircraft only killed Allied pilots during WW2.
For me, prettiest aircraft ever.
Minimal casualties is a highly personal viewpoint
Another worthwhile thing to note is how fragile those early Jumo and Junkers jet engines were. You could not slam the throttle, or the engines would burst into flames. You needed to gradually increase the throttle. In addition, one well-placed bullet could also make the engines burst into flames.
That said, look at how finicky those early rockets were, but how how devastating they could be when they DID work. Of course, when they didn't work, they were equally as devastating to the launch site.
That proves the age-old motto, "War is the mother of invention."
Before FADEC, you couldn't just jam the throttles forward on many civil jet engines, either. If you did, you could exceed temperatures in sections of the engines. You had to advance the throttles while watching the temperatures. FADEC has made modern engine control much easier.
So, around the 60s?
@@ThatBaritoneGuitarGuy FADEC (full authority digital engine controls) didn't start in civil aircraft until the 1980's. Military aircraft probably had it earlier...
Jumo is the engine division of Junkers... same company.
All WW2 jet engines have manual controlled fuel flow, but the Me-262 was the first to have an automatic variable exhaust nozzle and later engines had throttle dampers to assist the pilot in preventing movement that was too fast.
All jet engines are slow to accelerate from idle and have poor throttle response, even modern engines with FADEC.
Because jet engines operate at higher continuous power settings pilots don't retard the throttles or lean the fuel mixture in cruising like they would with a piston engine.
@@brentboswell1294YES, FADEC makes it easier... but not faster.
Spool-up is still slow and throttle response is intentionally delayed to prevent over-fueling damage.
This generation fought for our freedoms, something I think many have taken for granted. We all have to wake up and see our new enemy, is amongst us and wants us subservient and weak. They are our governments and our entertainment, but no less dangerous.
Amazing plane for it's time.....Thanks
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For it's time.... it was a miracle.
The Me 262 was anything but maneuverable.
But in the hands of a competent pilot outside of takeoff and landing it was untoucheable.
Pilots who flew the Messerschmitt Me-262 said it was very maneuverable with excellent handling, the German jet could turn and maneuver at speeds 100 mph faster than Allied aircraft could not reach in straight and level flight.
Allied aircraft were completely outclassed by the Me-262 in a dogfight.
@@WilhelmKarsten Very strangely, Galland was adept at the hit technique (bombers) & run
@@daniel_lucio Galland was a very skilled pilot but his real talent was politics and mastered the technique of talking out of both sides of his mouth... depending upon who was in the room and who they liked and didn't like.
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know the Me 262 was a poor fighter, indeed Eric 'Winkle' Brown whilst describing it as a most formidable aircraft stated that it was "NO FIGHTER" and that it could not effectively perform dogfight maneuvers. Brown identified it's proper use as a zoom and boom interceptor but noted the limiting lack of dive brakes.
Me 262 pilots were forbidden from engaging allied fighters.
From the Smithsonian on their Me 262 -
"Despite its great speed advantage, the Me 262 was not as maneuverable as top-of-the-line piston fighters and it had a tendency to stall due to a tricky compressor. The jet engines burned out quickly and were not that reliable."
Gute Technik vom ersten U Boot bis heute !
Always good viewing. Thanks
Den Amerikanischen Bombenterror hatten wir leider Zuwenig entgegen zu setzen aber ich Danke jeden Flieger der Luftwaffe für ihre Tapferkeit gegen eine überlegenen Übermacht. Schade das die ME 262 zu spät eingesetzt wurde.
Deutsche Technik...Überlegen über allem😉👍
Der Technologie Vorsprung war schon bemerkenswert sowohl bei der ME 262 und den Horten Nur Fluegler erster Staff Fighter 😊😊
There is a air worthy example in existence. Haven't seen it in person but I hope to one day.
Maybe one at the Chino Planes of Fame, I remember seeing a photo years ago. It probably is a static display.
@@alparker8661 The Planes of Fame Me-262 was bought by Paul Allen's museum as a candidate for airworthy restoration. It was also the former Howard Huges Me-262. Jeremy Moore and his group at JME Aviation in the UK were selected to restore the airframe. (JME had previously rebuilt Paul Allen's beautiful Fw-190A.) The Jumo engines were rebuilt at Aero Turbine in California, using at least seven original cores and lots a new manufacture. Aero Turbine ran them until they broke, then fixed the problem and kept going over 10 years. Allen's Me-262 is not quite ready for flight since Allen passed away just before taxi trails began. There's still work to do under the new owners.
There are a few. They are modern reproductions, or if you prefer "continuation" models, powered by modern engines nestled inside reproduction nacelles. No airworthy originals exist or ever will exist because the original engines are too short-lived and unreliable.
“At the same time, the British Frank Whittle…” no, not the same time. Long before. Whittle patented the jet engine in 1930. If his ‘superiors’ had listened to him, Britain could have had jet engined Spitfires in the Battle of Britain.
Prob wouldn’t have had enough funding but, yeah, they really dropped the ball
Whittles design was not axial flow. All modern engines are axial flow
They sold out to the US look at whittles jet...looks exactly like what the us tested. An also we was testing fully moving tails in the late 30s as hurricanes was experiencing compressibility in very high speed dives. Another British invention the USA stole
That would have been something. Or a twin jet Mosquito?
But they would have worked better with the available tech. Alot longer than the German axial s@@simonrooney7942
V2 rocket was the fist man made object to reach outer space.
The A4b was a rocket powered aircraft with swept wings that reached Mach 4 in 1945, although unmanned during testing it had a cockpit for a pilot.
The world's first supersonic aircraft and the first spacecraft capable of carrying a man into space.
The Me262 is one of my favorite aircraft, however despite (or because of) how advanced it was it had numerous teething troubles that simply could not be worked out with the limited time and resources at Germany's disposal. And from what I've read North American was actually working on a swept wing version of what became the F-86 even before German data became available
The F-86's swept wing was designed by German engineer Edgar Schmud and a team of engineers from Messerschmitt.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 is without question the most successful jet aircraft design of WW2, the Allies had absolutely nothing comparable to the Me-262
@@WilhelmKarsten the Lockheed P-80 was in service in Europe the last few weeks of the war and absolutely blew the Me-262 out of the water without German data. Besides, Republic built a "hot rod" P-47, the P-47M, to counter it and other jets and it seemed to do the trick
@@josephlannert969 It doesn't sound like you know very much about the P-80A or the P-47M?
Don't confuse the F-80C with the P-80A in service during WW2, the A was completely outclassed by the Me-262.
Four P-80s were sent to Europe 2 crashed before reaching Italy where the remaining two never flew on a operational combat sortie before all P-80s were grounded after a series of crashes and fatal accidents.
The 2 P-80s spent the entire remainder of the war grounded with crash investigations and technical problems.
The "mighty"P-47M is an American unicorn plane, in operational service it was an unmitigated disaster that never lived up to Republic's fantastic performance claims.
Like the P-51H the Simmons boost regulator was an epic failure and all of the special 'M' engines were destroyed when WEP was used causing several fatal accidents before the boost pressure regulator was ordered to be removed and all remaining M planes converted in the field to P-47D engines.
In USAAF service the M was only about 10 mph faster than the standard D model.
Any questions?
Look at the F-86 A and the MIG 15. They are not twins, but cousins..🤔 Maybe of the German plans and engineers in the US and Russia after the war?
a friend of mine, who was a trivia buff, pointed out that in cross-section the ME-262 had the same profile as a shark's body.
"MK" for the germans is "Maschinenkanone" wich means Autocanon, not "Mark"
Well, and we have the Germans to thank for all of this, the entire modern technologized world.
What does humanity make of it?
Everyone stares at an Apple phone or Microsoft computer, thinks they're smart and lets themselves be enslaved.
Brave new world.
Everything can be used for good, or as a weapon.
One of the best looking fighter's
I was lucky enough to see two flying over, they were on their way to an air show in the UK
This video is lttered with inaccuracies. Swept wings aren't about maneuverability or agility. They are about stability and durability at speed. The swept wing delays the shock wave traveling down the wing and preventing the wings from being torn off the closer the plane got to the sonic barrier. The 262 was not more agile than its piston counterparts, but it was faster. The 262 used a hit and run tactic to great effect, which is exactly the same tactic used by F4 pilots later against the more agile Migs.
Actually swept wings allow jets to turn at higher speeds than would be possible for straight wing aircraft because straight wings create more drag in a turn, like the way propellers lose thrust in a turn...
Straight wings = low performance
Swept wings = High performance
Actually the Messerschmitt Me-262 could turn and maneuver at speeds that Allied straight wing aircraft could not achieve in straight and level flight.
Please remember that "turn radius" is completely relative to speed and does measure a planes superiority in a dogfight, speed is a far more critical factor.
Any questions?
@@WilhelmKarsten I have question Sandyboy... why do you keep spouting garbage.
As you know Sandyboy Eric 'Winkle' Brown stated that the Me 262 was "NO FIGHTER" and that it couldn't be used effectively in dogfight maneuvers.
Me 262 pilots were discouraged from carrying out such maneuvers and from engaging allied fighters.
From the Smithsonian on their Me 262 exhibit -
"Despite its great speed advantage, the Me 262 was not as maneuverable as top-of-the-line piston fighters and it had a tendency to stall due to a tricky compressor. The jet engines burned out quickly and were not that reliable."
"Now you be my witness, how red were the skies when the fortresses flew for the very last time, it was dark over Westfalia in April of '45..." -BOC
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@@voctur well ain't this some shit... Classic rock and aviation connoisseurs conversing on the internet. Thank you Mr. Dark Skies... Awesome channel. "I raise my can of beer on high and seal my fate forever. "
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The Jumo-Engine was testet 24 hrs nonstop on ground in a shelter!!!
The Jumo 109-004B Orkan engines were tested and exceeded the RLMs 100 hour continuous full power test required by all engines used in Luftwaffe service.
This is the exact same 100 hour PFTR reliability test required by the RAF and USAAF during WW2.
The US Army Operation LUSTY confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours, this is better than many Allied piston engines during WW2 and better than some Allied jet engines.
This German AI translation is very, very strange to follow as a German native speaker.
So where is the confirmation that1,000+ US bombers were shot down by the Me262? Only 1,300 Me262 were built in the last year of the war, of these only about 300 were flown on operations 8-44 to 5-45. Most of the Me262s that were flying were converted to Sturmvogel bonbers, so were were the fighters that claimed so many American bombers? The facts are that about 300 aircraft of all types were shot down by Me 262, but in return around 120 Me262 were shot down in the air, more destroyed on the ground. The aircraft had no effect on the war, despite all the hype.
4 to 1 kill ratio says it all. You do the maths.
@@ALA-uv7jq That was just one engagement in 1945, not overall figures. You may want read a book to check your facts.
26 Luftwaffe pilots scored Ace or higher flying the Me-262, Kurt Welter remains the highest scoring jet Ace in history.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 is without any question the most significant aircraft design history since the Wright Flyer, the Allies had absolutely nothing comparable to the Me-262.
@@WilhelmKarsten That's neither here nor there Sandyboy, regardless of Welter's exaggerations. The fact remains that the Me 262 had no effect on the outcome of the war.
Schade das ein Computer dieses Video kommentiert. Haarsträubend was die Maschine aus der Sprache macht.
No mystery, the plane in your thumbnail is an ME262
Frank Whittle was the jet engine pioneer. The British Govt. would not take Whittles design forward. Frank Whittle did not have the funds to keep his design patented and the technical design was made publicly available, and was in effect picked up by the Germans who took the work forward. Frank Whittle was a remarkable man - you can see one of the first jet engines he created and read about his life at the Midlands Air Museum (Coventry, UK).
That's a completely false narrative and nothing more than propaganda myths.
The Jet engine was invented by Hans von Ohain and Max Hahnn in 1934.
Frank Whittle was exposed for plagiarizing the work of Royal Aircraft Establishment Cheif of Engine Development A.A. Griffiths who published his paper in 1926.
Maxime Guillaume patented the turbojet aircraft engine in 1921 when Whittle was still a child.
Whittle was told by a legal adviser to not renew his patent after he received notice that his British patent was invalid and infringed on Guillaume's earlier patent.
Hans von Ohains design bears absolutely no resemblance to Whittle's patent and the 2 men worked with no knowledge of the other's.
The real genius of the British jet engine program was Adrian Lombard and Stanley Hooker.
Whittle refused to give credit to either man, claiming he patented the idea first which was later confirmed to be false.
Frank Whittle was only the fourth person to successfully demonstrate a working jet aircraft engine, he wasnot the first to achieve anything related to jet engine development
@@sandervanderkammen9230 Hello Sandyboy, let's just remind you of what that famous German jet pioneer Hans Joachim Pabst von Ohain had to say -
"The *FIRST* patent of a turbojet engine, which was later developed and produced,
was that of Frank Whittle, now Sir Frank (see Fig. 5). His patent was applied for
in January 1930. This patent shows a multistage, axial-flow compressor followed
by a radial compressor stage, a combustor, an axial-flow turbine driving the
compressor, and an exhaust nozzle. Such configurations are still used today..." My emphasis
and
"In April 1937, Whittle had his bench-test jet engine ready for the *FIRST* test run.
It ran excellently; however, it ran out of control because liquid fuel had collected
inside the engine and started to vaporize as the engine became hot, thereby
adding uncontrolled fuel quantities to the combustion process. The problem
was easily overcome. This first test run was the world's first run of a bench-test
jet engine operating with liquid fuel" my emphasis
and
"From the beginning of his jet propulsion activities, Frank Whittle had been
seeking means for improving the propulsive efficiency of turbojet engines. ¶ He
conceived novel ideas for which he filed a patent application in 1936, which
can be called a bypass engine or turbofan... Whittle's work on
fan jets or bypass engines and aft fans was *WAY AHEAD of his time. It was of
*GREATES IMPORTANCE* for the future or turbopropulsion." my emphasis
As you know Sandyboy, because of nazi strategic incompetence no engine designed by Ohain would ever enter propduction.
@@sandervanderkammen9230 By the way Sandyboy, why have you decided to appear in another one of your identities, is WilhelmKarsten getting worn out?
a 70 años de su creacion sigue siendo el avion mas impresionante de la historia de la aviacion
The engines were axial flow...... Not aerial flow...
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An uncle I never got to meet was a test pilot for this aircraft.
powerd jet engine ww2 that goes 850 km/h. These days a Boeing 747-400 goes at 988 km/h. Still impressive for that time in 1940s
Wasn't the first Me262 encounter between a Mosquito and an Me262, but the Mozzie escaped, damaged but disappeared and loitered in cloud, later landing?
The Mosquito was heavily damaged and crashed attempting to land... Mosquitos were particularly vulnerable to the Me-262 and accounted for most of the 85 RAF fighters lost to the German jets in combat.
Yes, the Mosquito evaded several attacks by the Me 262 and indeed escaped and landed safely having lost an outer hatch cover.
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know the Mosquito in question landed safely having only lost an outer hatch cover.
As you know Sandyboy you have made your silly mistake ( *LIE* ) before, the 85 fighter number is for US fighters and British fighter losses were much lower.
Foreman and Harvey identified 85 claims against US fighter by Me 262 pilots but USAAF records of losses are lower.
the engines lasted a total of 200 hours before being junked. get facts right
No 20 hrs!
@@christopherrobinson7541Wrong, the Jumo-004B Orkan engines easily passed the RLMs 100 hour PFTR reliability test required for adoption into Luftwaffe service.
The USAAF exhaustively tested the Me-262 during Operation Lusty and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours
EXCELLENT by WW2 standards for Allied piston engines
I have adolf gallands autograph.
That is a good breakdown, very easy to digest and understand!
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YOU SAW ME SQUINTING AT THE PLATE HUH LOL
I wonder why the german staffs failed in fitting out their best fighter planes (esp. the Me 262) with the already existing ejecting seat. This could have partly rectified the known shortage of well trained fighter pilots.
Pull up right here.
another bone of contention, the tricycle landing gear was chosen purely for engine performance because the tail dragger prototype experienced compressor stalls and surging at low speeds in the take off roll from lack of airflow into the engine before the aircraft could be rotated level. does this author just pluck 'facts' out of his backside?
Not true, the tricycle gear was selected simply because the jet exhaust was redirected from the ground and interfered with the elevator effectiveness and made difficult to raise the tail on take-off.
Das beste Jagdflugzeug des WW2
Uh - F-86s in Vietnam? All I saw were F-4s, A-4s, A-6s, OV-1s and OV-10s, A1Es and just once, an ancient F3D Skyknight - but F-86s? I don't think so..
Yeah Sabres are Korean War era, although I think Super Sabres were in Vietnam.
In that you where talking about 262’s and you had vid of 262’s- rare for you
Give it a rest. The topics covered by this channel most often have little or no archival footage. Unless you have mountains of never before seen photos or films you are willing to share stfu.
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Die Übersetzung ist ja furchtbar. Die englische Originalversion wäre schön gewesen
Thanks. Somebody said the P-80 shooting Star was the first American jet to equal the performance of the 262, 15 years later.
The F-86 Sabre was the first jet to fly faster than the Me-262, designed by Edgar Schmued and a team of German engineers from Messerschmitt
@@WilhelmKarsten BULLSHIT !!!! NO engineers from messershit !!!
The P80 flew during the war and was tested against the Me262 post war but they were not able to do much testing because of short engine life in Me262, P80's enging was much better !!!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 *The P-80 only killed American pilots.*
@@wilburfinnigan2142*Operation Paperclip and Operation LUSTY brought THOUSANDS of German engineers to America after WW2 to continue development of the most advanced aircraft technology in the world.*
This is well below your usual standard and needs re-writing. The round the clock air raids of 1944 were mainly flown by British Commonwealth bombers at night in all weather conditions. Lancaster and Halifax planes were the most common types. The USAAF used B-17s on daylight raids only, at very high altitude which made for serious targeting errors and planes bombing their fellow airmen when formations were not synchronised properly. Many things could break the timing and positions of B-17s. I know this because my father was a radar crew leader and he flew with both air forces to test radar installations inclusive of proximity scanners designed to avoid 'friendly losses'.
Mustang fighters indeed supported bombers and with upgraded Merlin engines could have great range but Mosquitos and some Hawker Typhoons late in the huge raids were much more flexible, despite the fact that the Typhoon was hard to fly well.
Whittle patented the first pure jet engine as early as 1930 and (because he was a serving RAF officer) was not given proper resources to work on axial and radial flow jet turbines side by side in real prototypes. Had he not been restricted he would have had something like the Meteor in service by 1943. Ohain openly admitted that he had used Whittle's pre-war designs for his own work and the two met after the war.
The Me-262 was fast but not at all agile and this could explain downing bombers by crashing into them before ejection crossed the minds of their pilots. The burn out rates of the engines scared many a 262 pilot and many planes were emergency landed or ejected from when compressor readings went awry. The 262 could not fly on just one engine whereas the Meteor could and if Whittle's proposal of a single engine fighter codenamed 'Ace' had gone ahead there could have been an RAF jet flying by 1942. In the event the Meteor began service on July 27th 1944 and was soon adapted to night fighter duties for 'special ops'.
You really must endeavour to achieve accuracy.
"The round the clock air raids of 1944 were mainly flown by British Commonwealth bombers at night"....
The British were not flying "round the clock", they were flying at night due to an agreement between the Yanks and the Brits to split up the bombing raids according to the strengths of thier bombers.
The Americans were able to fly massive formations of very heavily armed aircraft and were able to defend them even during the most dangerous daylight hours.
The Brits on the other hand could field smaller numbers of faster, more heavily loaded bombers, with smaller crews and less defensive firepower than the Americans. It was a tactic meant to play up to the strengths of the individual bomber forces, and it worked well, even if it meant high losses for the Americans.
This video is far more accurate and believable than your fantasy filled revisionist trash and outright lies..
You sir should be ashamed of yourself or are you completely delusional?
@@jstephenallington8431RAF bomber command was foced abandoned daylight raids, they suffered horrific losses in daytime missions to the point that British bomber crews refused to fly during the day... the problem with British losses was so severe that British crews began to mutiny and were arrested, sentenced to work in coal mines...
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The real problem was titanium, which was not available in Germany. So they had to use steel for the engines, which needed a change almost every fight.
All jet engines are made of steel, titanium is only used in modern Turbofan engines
The USAAF exhaustively tested the Me-262 during Operation LUSTY and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours... excellent by WW2 standards for Allied piston engines
@@WilhelmKarsten WRONG !!!! The engines were lucky to last 5 hours, why testing was stopped on the Me262 by the USAAF as they ranout of engines !!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 *The USAAF tests confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours.*
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy as you know your 55 hours is NOT excellent by WW2 stanadards. The Merlin engine had a TBO of 240 hours, the R-2800 had a TBO of 300 hours and the Welland and Derwent had TBOs of 150 hours.
As you know Sandyboy the Ju004 engines fitted to the Me 262 are well documented to have been fragile and short lived.
Die Me 262 war ein sehr gut entwickeltes Flugzeug und hätte ab 1941 in großen Stückzahlen den Kriegsverlauf verändert aber nicht geändert.
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maybe if they called it project 1066, they might have "conquered " something
Excellent documentary, but the ‘music’ irritating.
The US Army Air Force was led by men with no forward vision. The P-40 was not given a dual supercharger because the leaders said all combat would be fought below 20,000 ft. The P-80 was available in 1944, but the leaders said the jets were untried, and pilots could not be trained to fly them. The P-80 was almost as fast as the German jets, and could out handle them. A group was stationed in Italy away from actual combat.
The P-80 was rushed into service too quickly and was not ready for operational service, half of them crashed and the rest sat grounded for the remainder of the war with technical and safety issues
Awesome video .excellent 😀from nz.
wie ist es möglich, dass man das alles erst jetzt zu sehen bekommt?
Beautiful plane. However the engines had a short running life.
That's a popular myth based on deliberate misinformation.
The version of the Jumo 109-004A made with Krupp P-198 Chromadur alloy NEVER entered production or saw combat service.
The Jumo 109-004B version that actually powered the production aircraft easily passed the RLMs 100 hour reliability test required for adoption into Luftwaffe service.
The USAAF exhaustively tested the Me-262 during Operation LUSTY and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours.
EXCELLENT by WW2 standards for Allied piston engines
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know your 55 hours is NOT excellent by WW2 stanadards. The Merlin engine had a TBO of 240 hours, the R-2800 had a TBO of 300 hours and the Welland and Derwent had TBOs of 150 hours.
As you know Sandyboy the Ju004 engines fitted to the Me 262 are well documented to have been fragile and short lived.
Saw the Me-262 in display in Munich Deutsche Museum. We designed airplane and engines. Probably needed some refinement for longer engine life, fuel efficiency, reliability. Most likely long range accurate armaments with hi hit ratio. Luftwaffe could not afford to loose pilots or aircraft. The B-17 guns were effective at 3,500 feet or >1,000 meters. The Me-262 needed longer range effective cannon. May be a ligher MK-103 or accurate guided missiles with sensors that track sound with hi kill ratio? Needed a range of 1,500+ meters?
I'm not sure where you get this misinformation about the Messerschmitt Me-262.
The Jumo 109-004B was the best jet engine available and was more reliable than many Allied high output piston engines.
The Me-262 had the most powerful and effective standard gun package of any fighter in WW2, a single 30mm shell containing 86 grams of RDX high explosive could blow the wing or the tail off a large 4 engine bomber or completely disintegrate a single engine fighter like a Spitfire.
*26 Luftwaffe pilots scored Ace or higher shooting down over 550 Allied aircraft.*
*Kurt Welter is still the highest scoring jet Ace in history.*
*The P-80 and the Gloster Meatbox only killed Alled pilots during WW2.*
@@WilhelmKarsten You are right about the 30 mm cannon shell, but it had a low velocity. with a drop of 41m at 1,000m range. May be with a good gun sight. The R4M seemed effective with similar ballistics. Main issue the Me-262 cane in late and not in hi numbers otherwise the B-17 fleet would have been decimated.
@@AjitMD All the experts agree that the 4x (or 6x) 30mm MK 108 cannons were the most effective of any WW2 fighter.
Targets were very rarely engaged at 1,000 m, most shots were at less than half that distance which is why the lower velocity was not an issue.
Fighter versions were equipped with the _Askania EZ-42_ electro-optical, ranging finding, gyro stabilized gun sight with illuminated heads-up display.
This was without any doubt the best gun sight used in WW2.
@@AjitMD Alot of the best weapons of WW2 came late in the war, many Allied weapons never arrived before the war ended or were, like the Gloster Meat Box and the Lockheed P-80, rushed into service to quickly without proper development and ended up being completely ineffective during the war.
I think the first flight was a tail dragger
This is a very positive presentation on behalf of the 262. While a great pioneering first step the 262 was hardly a fully developed aircraft. As always it would take the allies time to develop ways of dealing with this aircraft. They did eventually take advantage of its weaknesses. All that said one has only admiration for its developers and the pilots who learned how to fly her.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 was well developed when it entered service, especially compared to Allied jets.
What weakness was that? The Me-262 was an excellent aircraft
Wow, the Germans had a secret fighter! John P.
The Me262 had ejection seats?? Wow i doubt that.
Several WW2 German aircraft were equipped with ejection seats.
The Messerschmitt Me-262 could also be equipped with a gyro stabilized range fiding gun sight wit heads up display.
excellent!!
Rats. The title had me hoping for some awesome barn find thing or newly re discovered variant.
IKR
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Their effect on the outcome of the war was minimal .....they had their five minutes of fame and that was that .!!!
Hallo, Toll gemacht das Video, sie zeigen uns da das schnellste Flugzug seiner Zeit ich fand ihr Ausführungen absolut ok, wenn sich auch der oder jener über Kleinigkeiten aufregen, ich mach sowas auch mal, aber sollen die Meckriche ersmal selbst so
einen Film fertigbringen.
Danke auf jeden Fall und
Tschüss bis zum nächsten mal.
Britain already had a jet fighter, so there was no need to path the way for us. Gloster Meteor first flight was in 1943
The Gloster _"Meatbox"_ didn't enter service until June 1944, months after the Messerschmitt Me-262.
The Meatbox was a disappointing failure, it only killed British pilots
The ME- 262 was most vulnerable at take off and landing as stated. But it's major flaw was it's JUMO engines initially. They had a tendency to fail without warning, and the replacement/ maintenance cycle was about 6 hours of running time. This made them very maintenance intensive. Allied photo intelligence was used to identify airfields where ME - 262's were stationed, so P- 51's were used to loiter near such fields, to strike ME- 262's when in take off and landing cycles, where they were most vulnerable to attack. Once again, numbers of P-51 and allied aircraft out ran the technical superiority of a smaller number of ME-262's.
The USAAF exhaustively tested the Me-262 during Operation LUSTY and confirmed TBOs averaged 55 hours, EXCELLENT by WW2 standards for Allied high performance piston engines
Nevertheless the introduction of jet fighters like the Me-262 rendered all propeller driven fighters obsolete.
@@WilhelmKarsten Wrong they were lucky to get 5 hours , some new engines failed before the plane took off !!
@@wilburfinnigan2142 *No different from Allied piston engines... just much higher performance*
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, as you know 55 hours is certainly NOT excellent by WW2 standards for Allied high performance piston engines (it wasn't even excellent for the German piston engines). The Merlin had a TBO of 240 hours and the R-2800 had a TBO of 300 hours. When it came to jet engines, both the Welland and the Derwent had TBOs of 150 hours.
AXIAL flow
Yes, a poor choice, especially for the nazis.
Thanks, Dark Skies.
Premetto che non sono Belligerante, però mi affascina troppo questa velocissima macchina volante, frutto dell'altissima tecnologia TEDESCA di quei tempi.
I'm waiting for the infamous light fighter heinkel he 162
My brother, Aerial Master Sergeant Class 1 Outer Space Pilot Sniper on detachment to the Solar Warden Nucleur Security Forces, can confirm this is a plane.
Everything Germany did in WWII was just a case of too little too late.
Too few Me 262 to change the course of the war, too late equipping troops with the new Sturmgewehr 44 StG 44 the 1st assault rifle.
The world would be a very different place had Hitler not rushed to start the war and waited for all these advance weapons to become the standard norm. We should be glad of this fact.
Nevertheless the British empire was finally destroyed and the world is better place today, Germany has ascended to its place as the number one economic power in Europe.
@@WilhelmKarsten Hello Sandyboy, its'a always entertaining to witness your bitter wehraboo cope.
Faced with with the humiliation of your luftwaffe dreamboys by the RAF followed by Britain and its Allies smashing the '1000 year reich' (spanking Germany for the second time in barely thirty years), Germany occupied and divided, its cities smashed, millions of it soldiers and civilians killed, millions of its soldiers in captivity many never to return, its women abused in the most horrible ways, its leaders imprisoned tried and executed, its people exposed as gullible fools or worse and the nation tarnished by a regime that has become the by for the worst evil and all you can come up with is that.
Die Me 262 war sicherlich ein gutes Flugzeug, aber genau wie im Panzerbau nicht an die belämmerte Situation der vorhandenen Ressourcen angepasst. Da gab es bessere Exponate ("Huckebein", Horten, Lippisch).
830 kilometers per hour to mph 530 roughly
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560 mph, faster than any aircraft in WW2 except for the Me-163 Komet.