Yeah, Kirk took lessons with Joe Satriani, so he understood harmony and rhythm on a good level. But I think it was Cliff the big force on the theory on Metallica. Definitely the best musician in the band. I wonder if he had not died...
@@viniciusbertucci too many people made that reflection of "what if Cliff didn't die ?" to me it's bullshit, it is what it is and you must stop thinking about the past.
6:41 Only one person in Metallica knew what they were really doing, Cliff studied music theory. Bach was also a huge influence on him as well. Can't say i blame him, Bachs badass. Another great video sir.
Interestingly, James Hetfield didn't know anything about theory when Metallica was formed, though that's not to say they don't use it or that they can't be analyzed that way.
I've noticed a trend among famous musicians. They tend to claim they don't know any theory, but I think they know allot more than they admit. I think they want people to think that all their music just came from divine inspiration. From the soul.
"Sorry Lars..." - hahaha, that one caught me off guard, almost spat my dinner across the living room. Now, everyone, please have a beer on the incredible, soul buying, never resting Shredmaster Scott :)
I would love to see Symphony X musical analysis videos. Can you imagine a breakdown of The Odyssey? That gets me excited just thinking about that. Anyway thanks Shred I have been learning a lot since subscribing. RIP Uncle Tom.
Great video, I just saw a video of how Kirk developed some solos for Wherever I may Roam and he talked about Phrygian Dominate. So I typed in the search bar "does Metallica know music theory" and here I am! Great vid!
Awesome to see metalheads analysing music theory, it feels like a bridge as I kind of distanced myself from Metal and I find it hard to get back to it because of the complexity of some Composers like Messiaen. Good Content Lol
Sorry to hear about your uncle. :( He'll be watching over your shredding and tutoring now from a different place. And on a sidenote; thank you again for a wealth of information, I need to go compose now...
I love the song, almost entirely, except for two (minor) things. The recapitulation part should be a part of a transition between sections; I personally find it anti-climactic as the song’s ending. And I would have worked a bit transitioning between the song’s beginning and the (killer) riff on the second section (maybe asking Lars to do some tasty drum fills in between?). Outside of these, this is a kickass song, and Scott, you did a kickass analysis of this one. Well done. Loved it.
This is an amazing video! A musical breakdown f one of the greatest metal songs. It would be great to see more of these. Orion would be a cool one to do!
Interesting, but how about looking into the composition structure of Meshuggahs music? Also, does that nice white King V come with the soul selling thing? If so, lets talk!
God I love this channel. I know shit all about music theory, but this channel always helps. Sorry to hear about your uncle, friend. Loss is a mean bitch. Take care 👍
You should consider doing something like this with Megadeth. It would be interesting. Not just as a comparison to the Metallica one but also independently. You are awesome at what you're doing. Thanks.
I don't think you knew this (At the time of you making this video at least) and I just wanted to bring it to your attention but Cliff had extensive music theory knowledge and wrote a lot of Metallica's stuff when he was in the band.. Rip Cliff, my favorite bass player
Cool Video, although I personally do not equate Metallica with Shred. I also doubt that Theory was ever considered when this song was made, the only Dorian they may have heard of was Gray. As you pointed out, this song is based on E5, and the open E pedal tone which was the norm in this era. It appears to me that the Chord, and Note choices are all based off of the E, and are pretty much following the Black Sabbath approach to song writing by incorporating the b5 in an already implied Em to create the overall evil tonality.
i fuckin love what james does i n this song his riffs are so crushing simple but effective alost how lars drives it this is one of thier greatest most powerfull songs they have ever written anda live staple,
On a serious note, you’re teaching me so much. Thank you. And are those 90# weights? And R.I.P. for your uncle brother. I’ve lost one couple years ago and it’s hard.
I pretty sure kirk knows music theory. From learning with Satriani. And Cliff too. James is raw talent. Lars is.. The drummer. But music theory is really important if you want to learn jazz, classical or flamenco. Sorry but rock music is not even at a beginners level in comparison.
Dorian b5 The 4 is right there in the same riff. Sharp 4 is not the same as flat 5. #4 is uplifting b5 is dark. The A chord is right there. IT IMPIIES DORIAN b5 Harmonic Major mode 2
I believe that metallica do know their music theory, at least kirk does, Most of their early stuff was so melodic and almost classical in nature, there is absolutely no way they don’t know their theory... of anything, they probably know it so well, that they know when to brake from it... An old friend of mine was a classical pianist that switched to jazz. During an interview with a national classical music radio station, they asked: you started off as a classical pianist, then you switched to jazz, can you explain the difference? His reply was: well, classical music is all about the rule, jazz is all about the exception to the rule... So is it possible that metallica started off being classically influenced in their theory, but became so aware that they ended up being jazz influenced? Even without knowing it? Just saying...
@@darthbolloful hahah I went down in the comments to look for other impressed people. I was mainly impressed how easy it looked. I can curl 50s for 8 reps on each arm but I can't look casual doing it.
Oh I guarantee Kirk knows this music theory (he was a Satriani pupil for god's sake!)! And Cliff definitely knew his music theory as well. James, probably not, but he just has good instincts for composition.
What's your favorite Metallica song?
🔴Metallica vs Music Theory TAB:
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Some King of monster :)
The Thing That Should Not Be
Dyers Eve
I gotta pick only one? I guess Creeping Death, but there are many, many more.
Fade To Black/Call Of Cthulu/Ride The Lightning, each of them in different category
Cliff was the one that brought up music theory into the band, he introduced harmonies to James
Yeah, Kirk took lessons with Joe Satriani, so he understood harmony and rhythm on a good level. But I think it was Cliff the big force on the theory on Metallica. Definitely the best musician in the band. I wonder if he had not died...
@@redlikewater2453 the table lol
@@viniciusbertucci too many people made that reflection of "what if Cliff didn't die ?" to me it's bullshit, it is what it is and you must stop thinking about the past.
@@palmeraniian and yea lmao
Dave Mustaine wrote a lot of their early stuff too
Mr. Shred, thanks for explaining what the "C" stands for. I literally could not find this information anywhere else. You rock sir.
Anytime brother 🤘
A is for Ass? B for bollox etc 😂
@@luxcifer4739 no, B is for B*tch. You should listen closer to the master
Oops yeah my bad 😂
I f***ing laughed my ass off at that part!
I fucking love this guy. Under his silly demeanor, is a wealth of compositional knowledge. You're awesome, shred.
thanks brother
RIP Uncle Tom
Harvester Of Tone amen 🙏 to that
🌟
Can't I just sell a little bit of my soul for a little bit of musical power?
I tried that and i got pretty good pretty quick! I shoukd of asked for success instead lol
@@luxcifer4739 true
Gotta go all in bro
@@ShredmasterScott Allright so do I PayPal you my soul?
Yep gotta go all in!
Love this style of video!!!
Sorry to hear about your uncle...
Nick Pikel thanks brother
Shred just dropped the mic on all other musical breakdowns on YT.
🤘
6:41 Only one person in Metallica knew what they were really doing, Cliff studied music theory. Bach was also a huge influence on him as well. Can't say i blame him, Bachs badass. Another great video sir.
Facts
Interestingly, James Hetfield didn't know anything about theory when Metallica was formed, though that's not to say they don't use it or that they can't be analyzed that way.
Kirk knows all the theory. And before Kirk Dave knew the theory. James just knows how to down pick insanely fast lol
James did study classical guitar though, which you can hear in the intros, especially on Ride The Lightning
I've noticed a trend among famous musicians. They tend to claim they don't know any theory, but I think they know allot more than they admit. I think they want people to think that all their music just came from divine inspiration. From the soul.
@@benparsons4979 Yep. Cliff knew theory and shared it with the others, plus Kirk learned theory from Joe Satriani.
@@gbormann71Cliff wrote that intro to Ride
"Sorry Lars..." - hahaha, that one caught me off guard, almost spat my dinner across the living room. Now, everyone, please have a beer on the incredible, soul buying, never resting Shredmaster Scott :)
Well, if Shreddy Scott is buying. :)
Cheers brother 🥃
Also, I'm sorry for your loss Shred. And thanks for your inspiring words and wonderful content!
I would love to see Symphony X musical analysis videos. Can you imagine a breakdown of The Odyssey? That gets me excited just thinking about that. Anyway thanks Shred I have been learning a lot since subscribing. RIP Uncle Tom.
Cheers brother, thanks 🙏
If you sell your soul for music make sure you ask to be successful and not just good, that was my mistake mwahaha
If you're that's good, upload some of your playing to your channel
@@BrunoNeureiter didnt say i was "that good" but there is some playing on my channel just none since xmas
Lux Cifer Also ask for longevity.
Great video, I just saw a video of how Kirk developed some solos for Wherever I may Roam and he talked about Phrygian Dominate. So I typed in the search bar "does Metallica know music theory" and here I am! Great vid!
Mirror Domains awesome 👏
You're the student my music teacher never had.
You go fucking places with knowledge and humor in this vid. 10/10 definitely will shred till dead
"Yeah! We do the thingy into the thing, and then smash that hard hitter, YEAH!"
James and Lars really be like that.
Great video!
RIP, uncle Tom. \m/
Great breakdown of this iconic song. Cliffs playing was so great on this one! Hilarious editing and NOTHING ELSE MATTERS!!
Awesome video!! Very sorry to hear about your uncle. RIP!
Awesome to see metalheads analysing music theory, it feels like a bridge as I kind of distanced myself from Metal and I find it hard to get back to it because of the complexity of some Composers like Messiaen. Good Content Lol
Great analysis of Metallicker. Classic stuff. How's about an analysis of Ulver's classic, Bergtatt?
Damn this video was interesting, very well structured and condensed. Thank you man.
Sorry to hear about your uncle. :( He'll be watching over your shredding and tutoring now from a different place.
And on a sidenote; thank you again for a wealth of information, I need to go compose now...
Thanks brother...2020 is the year to write music
I love the song, almost entirely, except for two (minor) things. The recapitulation part should be a part of a transition between sections; I personally find it anti-climactic as the song’s ending. And I would have worked a bit transitioning between the song’s beginning and the (killer) riff on the second section (maybe asking Lars to do some tasty drum fills in between?). Outside of these, this is a kickass song, and Scott, you did a kickass analysis of this one. Well done. Loved it.
You put a lot of thought in your channel name. I appreciate that.
thanks bro
Excellent, Shred. You have us looking at an old song in a whole new way!
You are fucking awesome, Scott!
This is an amazing video! A musical breakdown f one of the greatest metal songs. It would be great to see more of these. Orion would be a cool one to do!
You're Uncle sounds really awesome for letting you record at his place
Man, that was cool. Thank you!
Interesting, but how about looking into the composition structure of Meshuggahs music? Also, does that nice white King V come with the soul selling thing? If so, lets talk!
There's a Shining vibe on that doom metal riff! Keep it up :D
Bela Bartok was in the Shinning
RIP Uncle Tom.
As always good videos shred
Farhan Rizky amen 🙏
God I love this channel. I know shit all about music theory, but this channel always helps. Sorry to hear about your uncle, friend. Loss is a mean bitch. Take care 👍
At 2:52 I always wondered why they never harmonized it it sounds so much more cool !
Thanks Shred for all the content! You make music theory funny and evil. Groovy! \m/
Please do one on sad but true!
The bridge always makes me wonder how I can write something like that
Killer video Bro .... ah ah ah ahhh !!!!
I love you Shred?
James: YEEEAAAH!
66.6 seconds... Perfect
And what does C stand for again?? Chord?? Hehe. You're Killin me smalls ....
Wonderfutl video. You're truly a master.
You should consider doing something like this with Megadeth. It would be interesting. Not just as a comparison to the Metallica one but also independently. You are awesome at what you're doing. Thanks.
Really nice to see Mozart's first Minuetto from Sonata in E Flat K.V. 282.
It would be interesting to do a mercyful fate Vs musical theory as they had a very close friendship with Metallica and inspired some of their work
There’s no difference between this video and a video analyzing e. g. Janáček.
I’m glad you exist.
You crack me up, dude.
RIP to Tom, sorry for your loss.
Please explain ride the lightning to my puny mind o Lord. Especially the part that starts right before the 2 minute mark.
Well done in an entertaining way! Super cool content
Those evil laughs kill me every time
That triplet ostinato almost sounds like “Whiskey In The Jar” by Thin Lizzy
I don't think you knew this (At the time of you making this video at least) and I just wanted to bring it to your attention but Cliff had extensive music theory knowledge and wrote a lot of Metallica's stuff when he was in the band.. Rip Cliff, my favorite bass player
The devil does not deserv my soul. I need the theory
Awesome work.
Also RIP Uncle Tom
My condolences master shred.
How does he get that monster tone? I NEED ANSWERS SCOTT
I use tubes made with baby souls
Cool Video, although I personally do not equate Metallica with Shred.
I also doubt that Theory was ever considered when this song was made, the only Dorian they may have heard of was Gray.
As you pointed out, this song is based on E5, and the open E pedal tone which was the norm in this era. It appears to me that the Chord, and Note choices are all based off of the E, and are pretty much following the Black Sabbath approach to song writing by incorporating the b5 in an already implied Em to create the overall evil tonality.
Yeah
i fuckin love what james does i n this song his riffs are so crushing simple but effective alost how lars drives it this is one of thier greatest most powerfull songs they have ever written anda live staple,
On a serious note, you’re teaching me so much. Thank you. And are those 90# weights? And R.I.P. for your uncle brother. I’ve lost one couple years ago and it’s hard.
I would like to see some black metal vs. music theory. For example darkthrone or celtic Frost.
Did anyone else notice, at 6 min and 66 seconds, the t shirt Shred Till your Dead appears on the screen. Coincidence?
Dude make an analysis on any song from Incubus - Serpent Temptation.
Keep it up!
This guy looks like Kevin from The Office if he lost weight and had hair. Subscribed.
That analysis was so Evil, I need to now shower...with holy water.
Rest in peace uncle Tom!
Love from india.plzz do more this type of lessons.
Miss old Metallicker so much....they are teh suckage now.
Just listen to the real bands of that era such as EXODUS. Still puttin out awesome tunages.
3:13 sound like a Dies Irae Latin sequence. So Metallica were skilled in medieval chants too
Can you do some old school symphony X??
I pretty sure kirk knows music theory. From learning with Satriani. And Cliff too. James is raw talent. Lars is.. The drummer.
But music theory is really important if you want to learn jazz, classical or flamenco. Sorry but rock music is not even at a beginners level in comparison.
What if you want to play progressive rock or progressive metal? Is it on beginner's level too?
@@alexzoris7216 obviously not
@@elia8544 i know, i am just trolling with this jazz elitist above, who maybe think that all rock music is like AC/DC as about complexity...
@@alexzoris7216 oh
I believe Cliff Burton , who is of course no longer in the band formerly known as Metallica,
was classically trained.
What about Thrash-metal shred-legend Alex Skolnik (of Testament).
That dude is absolutely thinking of music theory when writing his things!
🤘Crushing analysis content🤘
Harvester of Sorrow, and btw, why did you change channel’s name?
Its like Dumbledore and Blackbeard had a rock god baby.
Though Cliff probably understood the theory.
Dorian b5
The 4 is right there in the same riff.
Sharp 4 is not the same as flat 5.
#4 is uplifting b5 is dark.
The A chord is right there.
IT IMPIIES DORIAN b5
Harmonic Major mode 2
Lovely. Seriously.
Confusing...
The audience by playing a seven string....
Ahhh.. 10/10
hmm... sell soul for unlimited music power... sound's legit, I'm in!
what am i even doing here i play piano. Damn cool content tough
I believe that metallica do know their music theory, at least kirk does, Most of their early stuff was so melodic and almost classical in nature, there is absolutely no way they don’t know their theory... of anything, they probably know it so well, that they know when to brake from it...
An old friend of mine was a classical pianist that switched to jazz. During an interview with a national classical music radio station, they asked: you started off as a classical pianist, then you switched to jazz, can you explain the difference?
His reply was: well, classical music is all about the rule, jazz is all about the exception to the rule...
So is it possible that metallica started off being classically influenced in their theory, but became so aware that they ended up being jazz influenced? Even without knowing it?
Just saying...
Dude. This killed me. Thanks RUclips!
Chances are Cliff knew what was going on.
I bet he did
1:59 Those real 50s bro? 🤔
Yes
@@ShredmasterScott damn youve got strong biceps do you powerlift or something? My arms are 19 inches big and i cant even curl 50s
@@darthbolloful hahah I went down in the comments to look for other impressed people. I was mainly impressed how easy it looked. I can curl 50s for 8 reps on each arm but I can't look casual doing it.
*C stands for C#@%*
*That can mean 2 things!*
Oh I guarantee Kirk knows this music theory (he was a Satriani pupil for god's sake!)! And Cliff definitely knew his music theory as well. James, probably not, but he just has good instincts for composition.
“There’s no reason to give a fuck about music theory unless it can do something for you” that’s why I’m here.
YEAH!
First complete song I learned by ear in 1988- check out our old attic cover by kids if you want?
Okay... don't tease us with Symphony X like that.
Symphony X vs Music Theory???
I concur.
maybe the divine wings of tragedy song vs music theory, shredmaster scott will edit the video till he's dead
Was anyone else scrolling and saw the thumbnail and thought it was Dimebag for a second then you realize it’s a Metallica video and get sad
I'll take that as a compliment
I think Burton had good music theory knowledge, so it is possible they knew what they did
Shredmaster Scott is such a better name than just Shred.
You'll get used to it...it's like "Slash" except "Shred"
Could I as a beginner learn this song?
Doesn't the E Dorian mode has F# and C#? Why in your scale it only appears de C#? 🤔
ricardo ortega because of the key signature
Wtf man. Wheres the corny tuba player joke? That's always my favorite part.
Jordan Thoreson next time