Tools of the Trade - Haas Automation Tip of the Day
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- Every CNC machine needs the proper tools to go from being a shiny new piece of technology to a mechanism that actually cuts metal, makes parts, and then makes money.
With that in mind Mark selected what he believes is the best cross section of tooling to get your new machine, or existing machine, running parts on day one.
This is a big kit and it represents a significant investment. But with the realization that you'll probably end up with most of these tools in your shop after 6 months to a year, this is a great way to get out in front of what you'll need and save money, time, and frustration along the way.
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What about a lathe start up kit. My company purchased an st 30-y recently. It seems like we do not have nearly enough tooling for this machine considering we are a job shop.
Terrific suggestion. Our lathe tooling line has really been expanded. We’ll work on that list. Thanks for the comment.
A very comprehensive solution. I especially appreciated the discussion on coatings relative to ferrous and non-ferrous applications. And, as usual, BRILLIANTLY conveyed by Mark in a super relatable and understandable format. (downloading this vid for ref later) The amount of thought and practicality of the array of tools is incredible, and as a bulk purchase, will cover a HUGE array of introductory needs, with known precision (compared to buying piecemeal). Thank you for these informative and entertaining vids.
Wine with steak and chicken for lunch because "its for the video"
Any chance we could get a tip of the day on tool coatings specifically as well as identifying worn tools. Also, tool regrind information like best use practices, when to get one reground, whether a job should use regrinds or new tools. I recently started working in a tool and die shop that uses regrinds and I've had trouble knowing when to change tools when they aren't chipped, but worn, and when using a regrind is okay. I've noticed that on some tools and jobs I've run that regrinds tend to break. Thanks for all you do.
As a future machinist, I found this to be one of the most informative videos yet. I had a chance to see this kit at IMTS.
It's funny I'm watching this and going "I have basically everything in this kit but it took me about a year of slowly working thru figuring out what I wanted to get here, and we probably spent at least as much, plus shipping."
If this was an option back in 2020, oh man so much time I could have saved. Plus negotations over tooling purchases when we could have just bundled it with the machine sale? OOOF. Well good on y'all for having it now.
What I think the package needs is a wrench or tool for installing the pull studs, and the key for installing the cap screws for shell mills. I remember trying to solve those things being a bit of a quagmire in a new shop and I ended up resorting to just an adjustable wrench for the pull suds for a while, and ended up doing some serious ad-hoc shenanigans to use a hex bolt as the hex wrench to put together my shell mill, was not part of any standard set and couldn't even get the right wrench at the hardware store down the street.
Will you be offering your cobalt drills in stubby/screw machine lengths? Jobber lengths should be avoided unless you need the flute length.
one thing seldom mentioned is the tool's cutting geometry which is usually unknown with uncoated tools. The cutter could be ground for aggressive sharpness for aluminum just without the ZRN coating, or it could be ground for "any material" (seems often ferrous steel) which COULD be used for aluminum but tend to chatter and can't be supercharged like an aluminum-specific cutter. I see the haastooling site mentions this which is definitely helpful. Most suppliers just say "uncoated" or "bright" and you're left to guess by visuals which is just asking for trouble a year from now when you pick it out of the toolbox 🤔
I do the same with the endmill holders out for endmills and in for drilling tools
please make a kit like this in all metric sizes, that would be very much appreciated, always great tips in "tip tof the day". - big fan
Solid carbide drills are so nice. Nearly had a heart attack watching it go full send with no peck.
They really are. Add TSC, and hold on to your socks. A nice carbide drill with the right coating can really help us get our RPM (and feeds) up.
I pull my endmills out as well before tightening down with Weldon holders. I Had endmills pull out before and this helps a lot, a classic old school method
I was just having a conversation with a friend yesterday about tooling my new TM-2P that is about to be delivered. Looks like this is the solution!
Update! Really enjoy this kit! Best option for someone new to CNC and just wants to get up and running quickly!
As you get more experience as a machinist you start picking up on how coatings work on different materials, this covered a lot of what usually takes a lot of experience to learn, thanks.
I thought I was the only one that preloaded against the set screw based on the force generated by the tool. 😂
I know how to pronounce sommelier now!
And of course this is yet another splendid Terryberry video In all other respects as well. I shopped Haas Tooling from pretty much day one, and it's been exciting to watch the product line flesh out. The combination of Haas becoming a full-spectrum tooling provider and all of your videos to put things in sequence and in context make it actually possible to approach sophisticated machining ab initio, without formal training or apprenticeship.
I have certainly had a lot of fun with my UMC-750 and ST-25Y, and I came to all of this through these Tips of the Day. Thank you!
This video was a veritable treasure trove of well-researched and helpful information.
The kit itself is marked as "Not Currently Available In Your Region", (The UK in this case), but I look forward to HAAS making a fully Metric version of this kit available for your UK customers.
I've been preloading set screw holders ever since I learned the hard way that endmills can be pulled out of collets on a manual Bridgeport some 40 years ago.
Damn, one of the most useful videos I have found! but then I started to watch more and each of them is full of useful knowledge! thanks so much for this.
About tools,this is very valuable, informative, knowledgeable, God bless
You're definitely not the only one pushing or pulling your tool against the set screw. I've been doing it that way for a long time for the same reasons you mentioned.
Great education video
I had a professor that swore by preloading the set screws especially on end mills
for the sidelock holders, at my work we only use them for replacable tip drills and chamfermill, drills bodies have a flange, chamfermill has a bigger body than the shank so in both cases there is a Z face contact instead of the set screw sitting method you mentionned, in some cases it can be a big advantage to consider "shouldered" shanks for sidelock when possible
Oh good, more Mark! Was worried for a bit there.
Man, Tool technology never stops evolving.
Tool that I didn’t see and I think is pretty important is an edge finder
The old black oxy drill holds better then new gold drill
Edge Finder I'd add
Thanks a lot, great video.
How can I buy this book 6:39
You can find any of our Haas Manuals, available on the website for download: www.haascnc.com/owners/Service/operators-manual.html
whats the rule of thumb when reaming hard materials like 17-4ph
excellent video and remarkable CNC 👏😎
That vice is nice 👌🏾
Website is saying that the kit isn’t available in the USA? What’s the deal?
Rich, If you clicked the "kit" link in the description but you haven't been to the Haascnc.com website before, the website needs to load cookies to know you're location and show availability. Try refreshing the page or click thru to reach the kit from the HaasTooling drop down, then the page should load correctly and show availability. Thanks!
You are lacking a helical indexable mills like 215622 20/3 from hoffmann
WOW.
This is why I love machining, there is always something new to learn. Thanks guys!
Where's the edge finder?
HSK A-63 when? oh and metric too. and wwaht about threadmilling tools?
This video was really awesome and helpful.
The only thing I think is missing from this is a good set of parallels, and maybe a flexi work stop.
Typical ! Haass ! CRAP !!!!!!!
Great video thank you
This looks like a really comprehensive package for a starter. Only suggestion I have is more pull studs.
Arrrr bummer, my mini mill gets commissioned in a few days and have ordered a load of tool holders but not the keyless chuck, I'm in the UK and at the time of ordering the machine there was no tooling packages so just picked 10 er32, 2 er20, 2 face mill holders, 3 side lock, 2 0.003mm g2.5 er32 and 1 collet holder with the roller cage type and several sets of 0.005mm collets. I'm mainly machining tool steel and come from a manual machine background so have decided to thread Mill in stead of tapping mainly because I'm worried about breaking a tap m4 or m5 plus to buy a tap holder with compensation is quite a lot more than a quality er chuck. Yes I'm new to it all so not got the big boy pants 🤭 yet. Any other ideas would be good but I'm in for a few k already 😳😭.
Typical ! U.K ! MACHINES ! DON'T ! EXIST !! THERE ! ANYMORE !!
What the price of the tools
Where is the tooling you are private labeling made? How are you managing quality control?
I'd add 1/4 3/8 and 1/8 diameter ball end mills for common fillet sizes
That big spot drill seems to show some rigidity issue!?
It sounded really good when running. I should have shown it better, but this is a multi-tool, which means we can use it to chamfer around the outside of a part also - not just holes.
@@markterryberry4477 It seemed to pull the spindle about?
@@stuart99299 I think that is an optical illusion due to it being an offset single flute either running slow, or the video was slowed down a bit.
At least ! The Bearings ! Are Completely ! Stuffed ! On this !
Hi Mark! You mentioned that TiAlN and AlCrN coated tools can withstand high temperatures... When cutting steel (and perhaps stainless steel), will running coolant shock these tools and cause premature wear? Or would you recommend only running them dry, except for finishing (maybe with a different tool separate from the roughing tool)?
I would not go back and forth. If I’m going to run coolant on a tool for the finishing pass, I’ll go ahead and run coolant for the roughing passes as well.
@@markterryberry4477 I agree with you... I should’ve phrased the question better. I do intend to keep the roughing and finishing tools separate. Here is my updated question with an example: I have a 1/2" 4-flute TiAlN coated carbide end mill. I want to use it to rough 1018 steel at 600 SFM and at about .003 IPT with a trochoidal tool path. Knowing that the cutting zone will be hot, will running coolant kill the tool immediately by thermal shock? Or will running air blast be a much better choice (since air blast is mostly not for cooling but for chip removal)?
I work in a job shop, and some of our old programs run the tool I mentioned in 1018 steel at 300 SFM and .002 IPT, with flood coolant. It works, but the tool life is about 3 hours in cut. I don’t want to experiment on the job as a newbie operator by doubling the speeds and feeds, and then break the end mill within half an hour... Thank you for your videos, they always teach me a lot! And you guys should do a sequel to the video on taps -- this time covering form taps!
Coolant is fine but you have to use coolant for the everything that tool does until has cooled to room temp. Same with alot of carbide tools
@@chulangmo5799 In your example, if I am doing a lot of roughing with a TiAlN tool, I might just run it dry, with air blast. The tool can handle it, and it might be a little easier to control our chips. For my finishing endmill, I'd turn on my coolant. We just want to avoid running tools dry, getting them nice and warm, and then turning coolant on immediately.
@@markterryberry4477 Thank you for your reply!
No edge finder of some sort? Is this presuming that all the machines will come with a part probing system?
Check out ruclips.net/video/_yyNzoevQnU/видео.html.
What should be the percentage of cutting in water
That depends on the instructions by the fluid manufacturers.
The starter kit link does not work. :(
Knowledge is a perfect key of marketing.
micrometer holder is missing
The best video content in the CNC industry hands down.
Best coating end mills for milling cobalt chrome??? A-plus or T-plus coating?
Thank you for this video. I ordered this kit + 2 more drill holders and a second vise, to go with the new vf4ss. I now will be pushing/pulling my endmills! And as always, these videos are great!
For a starter kit for a machine only thing I would add is a soft face hammer,
But apart from that every thing a lot of users might ever need
Where can i be able to see the angle which the probe has measured
What do you mean by this? If you mean the probing routine that can measure angle in the x-y plane, it is stored in a macro variable…
With our Haas Renishaw probe, our angle is usually stored in macro variable #189. Check out these videos for more information: ruclips.net/video/5j8GJGqLztU/видео.html, and ruclips.net/video/amWolMgEM-Q/видео.html
@@markterryberry4477 👍 thank you
Very good aluminum machines!
As far as using an endmill in a endmill holder. I typically pull them up. So that way if it get full it pushes up into the holder. More of a manual machine than a CNC.
Thanks Mr.Mark . Just got into the machining business. It's really a great way to zeal up one's enthusiasm by giving the proper reasoning on why one chooses a particular tool and it's (tools) limitations.
Really this video is educational. Sir, great job in inspiring young people to these science secrets in tooling.
Thanks for the video.
Been at this for 18 years and tooled two shops (five new Haas machines). There were still gems to be picked up in this video. Outstanding content, as always.