By far, one of the BEST historical channels for Judo/wrestling/everything in between. Great Work, very informative to see how the arts evolved along its historical trend lines. Thank You.
@@Chadi they say Sambo is a mix of Judo or pre world War 2 Judo or Jiu Jitsu until Kano changed the name mixed with Russian wrestling and Russian military techniques
@@Chadi and I love the Gracies and all they have contributed to MMA but it's wrong how the gracies say they refined Jiu Jitsu for smaller weaker people and there form of grappling is the best when countless of other Jiu Jitsu schools or Judo schools from old Japanese masters who moved to Brazil like Mitsuyo Maeda have tapped and beat the gracie schools same thing with sambo in MMA with seen Sambo guys tap out BJJ guys left and right
Great video! Another difference I can think of is in defensive gripping - much of the defensive gripping in SAMBO would quickly get called as stalling in Judo, at least the modern IJF version of it. Same goes for certain offensive grips which can be held for longer periods of time in SAMBO but which require you to immediately attack or relinquish the grip in Judo.
Great video. Recently found a Russian guy to teach me Hybrid Judo (Judo+Sambo+BJJ) The conditioning Sambo guys do is insane. All three and the Okinawan karate Ik are very similar and feel like they’re a piece of the same pie.
@@seetsamolapo5600 sport Sambo and Judo are nearly the same in practice. Only difference is in competition, no chokes in Sambo, while in Judo no leg locks and leg grabs. Sport Sambo rules are similar to free style judo rules tho .
Excellent video, as always. This video made me remember the case of "Small circle Jujutsu" because the focus this jujutsu has on self defense and the use of joint locks and strikes that were filtered out both in judo and BJJ (sport version so to say). I dasre to suggest another video on this jujutsu, I'd like to hear your reflections on that. Thanks for sharing!
... That's a bit insensitive though calling it Small Circle Jujitsu when it existed before that style even hit Black Belt Magazines. It was the system that was created as the military art efore it turned to a sport and its more than just Judo... It's also mixed with Gymnastics, Wrestling styles from the USSR states and it had mixes of the old Poznai Sebia Bogatyr and Cossack fighting styles. It was designed to be easily taught to people enmasse so they could develop troops that could fight off the Nazis. Infact, they used it to survive the incredibly powerful Nazis who trained in such a hardcore way and were injected with earlier versions of performance enhancement drugs while being told such exercises as Build a Tank in 30minutes. Each soldier had to carry incredible amounts just to pull it off so these men were enhanced and were even said to be able to kill with one bear hug, they were numb to pain and were very dangerous. The Russians engaged them in hand to hand with some success compared to the Allies because of Sambo where they kept them stopped at Stalingrad until their country was attacked by the other allies and taken over, ending the war... With the Russians losing over 2 million men in the whole war, highest casualties of any war from one country for being the stopping force and immovable army to Hitler's March through Russia. The sports version I believe is cut in two parts. A striking and wreslring/grappling part.
Another thing that is massively different when it comes to sambo, specially combat sambo is that in combat sambo it is very much legal to head butt, on the ground or standing up. there are been more than a few fight where someone won due to head butts.
@@oneguy7202 the Gracies I know respect Judo, practice it and have Olympic champions as students as well as coaches who they interchange knowledge with.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio they learnt judo and they say that learn ju jutsu, sure the helio side doesn't respect judo or any other art. Carlson Gracie and his students allong Ezekiel is a different story.
@@oneguy7202 Mauricio, Roger, Carlson Jnr all respect Judo. I've trained with a visiting Brazilian coach who took an Aikido technique and used it to tap out a whole class even when we knew what he was going to do. Good coaches adapt techniques from other arts. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that.
Great video as usual. Very insightful and informative. After watching some of your prior videos and collating from my own research, I think pre-1922 Judo might be more similar to gi bjj up until the 2005-10 era. Barring the berimbolos (though the truck roll existed as you've shown in another video), lapel based guards, and maybe the concept of guard play (not guard pull or Hiki komi), pre-1922 judo would have looked very similar. A throw wouldn't finish a fight but rather give waza ari. A submission would. You could pull guard and submit and fights continued for hours (more stalling allowed than contemporary bjj). Maeda and Omori went and taught the art in Brazil in an era before the banning of ashi garami, hiza juji gatame and hiki komi in Kano's ju-jutsu. It's more probable that the Brazilians taught keeping the standards and as is widely known refused to agree to the new judo rules set by Kodokan in the 50s where they asked all of Kano' s lineage across the world to follow. The Gracies were given official Dan ranks then and asked to comply to the new ruleset and call their art Judo. The Gracies chose to refuse stating that points/ippon was not actual marker of a winner and only a submission is. Also, contemporary judo in its quest for ippon and shido for defence has spoilt it's essence of the small person's art. If you see Mifune Sensei, his style was based on defence and counterattack to get the ippon rather than protectively attack to get the ippon. He would even stop the opponent below the belt in the hips when the opponent would turn for any major throw. In today's judo Mifune sensei would be disqualified in every match. Sambo on the other hand, rather than a creation of a system, it was the creation of a unified ruleset that would get together all ethnic wrestling styles and the people practicing them have a common platform to identify and compete in while also upholding the unity of the Soviet Union. Therefore a unified, open-ended, catch jacket wrestling like ruleset. When Sambo spread, it is more probable that regional wrestlers were just briefed on a ruleset for competition rather than the founders going around teaching everyone a style. Hope this makes sense. Would be keen to hear your perspective.
Chadi, I am a huge martial arts fan especially the grappling arts. I especially love the history of them. I can say from the bottom of my heart yours are (in my opinion) the BEST videos on the history and especially comparative history of these arts. Thank you very much for the time and effort on these videos and please keep up the good work
When U.S. Army Ranger Battalion was looking for an unarmed combatives program in the 90s the first choice was Combat Sambo, however no reputable instructors could be found in the U.S.A...So Gracie Jiujitsu was settled upon due to Royce Gracie's success in UFC 1, thus U.S. Army Gracie Combatives was created for the Army Rangers and later became the base for M.A.C.P. (modern army combatives program) adopted by the entire U.S. Army...But Combat Sambo had been the first choice...I agree with Chadi, there's no better unarmed combat school than Combat Sambo. Kodokan Judo being close 2nd. (I will comment, in southern region of U.S. vast majority of men quickly remove shirts before fighting to prevent the shirt being pulled over the head or used against them. It's more uncommon for young men in the southern U.S. to keep their shirt on when they go to fight or attack another male. So we see many grapplers resort to grabbing the shorts or the pants for a double leg takedown for ground & pound. But seldom are fights one vs one in the southern region of U.S.A. thus further complicating. So all grapplers must also have boxing skills, at least in the southern U.S.A., especially if you end up in a U.S. jail you need both boxing & grappling (Wrestling, Sambo or Judo). I was U.S. Army before incarcerated for self defense and grew up in the rough & tumble southern U.S.A.
My only question is, "why the heck we don't have Combat Sambo, or even Sambo, in Brazil?". That's something I just can't figure out. It looks like it has the perfect set of technics to successfully lay roots in Brazil, but for some reason Argentina got it, but Brazil didn't. Go figure it. Chadi, thanks for another great video!
I've seen a Sambo gym in Curitiba, I don't know if it's any good though... but definetely gracies bjj and lots of japanese immigrants with judo, influenced our country
In Russia, in almost every judo hall we also practice sambo. You rarely see gyms where there is only judo or only sambo. We are gaining experience in competitions in two sports. When we grow up, we choose judo or sambo specifically. Usually everyone tries to get into the national judo team because it’s prestigious and highly paid and you can go to the Olympics. if someone is not good at judo, then he goes to sambo, or someone who likes sambo more from childhood, then he goes to sambo. Sambo is also paid for and is developing; there are also large sports centers where only Sambo.
Mannnnn!!!! So happy you put this out Chadi :) as a shooto/Sambo understudy I love the comparison between the two arts. I cant see martial arts without the two but yet I feel they are very different as you pointed out both in terms of the arts but also culturally. I really think that if you are wise as a martial artist you would try to find a middle ground to take something from both arts. Thank you again Chadi and hope you are well brother :)
Japanese martial arts plays a big part of Russian martial evolution since the 50's until now. Spetnaz soldiers are now black belts in karate, judo, and jujutsu because or Japan influence.
Combat Sambo was so good at defense, Soviet Authorities began to be afraid of masses learning it and using it to defend themselves against the authorities, so they've banned combat aspect of it, along with other striking martial arts, like karate, and allowed for only wrestling aspects of sambo to be learned by regular people, while keeping combat sambo only for law enforcement forces and the military.
You have a complete delusion, no sambo can threaten the authorities. The bans were related to the desire of the authorities to reduce the amount of crime on the streets. Let me also remind you that the restriction on combat sambo , in the USSR, was promoted on behalf of the police, and not from the political leadership in the USSR.
Combat sambo's striking is like a mix of karate and kickboxing; their kickboxing is somewhere in between oriental and K-1 rules type of style, though, the boxing doesn't seem to be as good in comparsion. Scott Sonnon formalized combat sambo rules in 2000, I think before combat sambo were little kinds of matches held very rarely in late 80s and 90s. Scott Sonnon helped influenced the leg lock boom by Renzo Gracie's bb John Danaher's death squad with leg locks being their big craze. Scott Sonnon said in master the saddle, leg lock dvd from 2007/2008, the guard in the future will become too difficult to pass and leg locks will be the equalizer those complicated types of guard. This is more of a catch approach like you know see in no gi comps with not getting stuck in these types of guards and going for leg locks right off the bat.
Küdo and Combat Sambo are both pretty amazing and underrated. Combat Sambo is definitely more developed than Kudo though. Probably more developed than MMA
sambo is authentic judo, and combat sambo is combat judo. Kano began to collect various techniques from different peoples of the world. Oshchepkov and his school continued this work
Combat sambo, I think, is very interesting... Japan's kudo is another gi-wearing MMA-like martial art sport..... I would have loved to have trained in either when I was younger.... Not many pre-mma martial arts sports combine grappling with striking it seems
Қазақша күрес (Kazakh wrestling or Kazakh kuresi) is a traditional wrestling style of Kazakhstan and one of the oldest sports of Asia as it can be traced back to 1200 to 600 BC. A wrestler in kazakh language is called "Палуан".
modern mma has grown to be very much like combat sambo. Since the true effective martial arts are just the few that we already know thanks to the ufc (kickboxing + wrestling/judo + bjj), mma is at this time 99% of the time a combination of those specific arts, and so it is combat sambo. The main difference is, excepting some minor rules, the viscerality in which combat is presented, being mma much more gruesome to watch than combat sambo
Chadi thank you once again for producing high quality videos. In this particular presentation you were insightful, and you explain subtle differences of the two art clearly. God bless and your family.
Hi, First of all 0:13 LOL hahahahaah... now, I think the difference in rules shouldn't keep the arts away from practicing everything, but that's the problem that comes with a "only sport" mentality. When they set their minds on "this is a sport" then they will only favor sport techniques and throw away everything else. While if you say "this is an art and we teach everything BUT for sports, we will use this techniques" is the right way to go in my opinion. I do Karate, and when they ban something from the sport, many people start to not teachning it at the Dojo, which is stupid, none says becuase its banned in the sport you have to remove it all together from the Art.
Russia is a very multicultural country with many different races. Sambo probably has combined Mongolian wrestling, Judo and many other techniques developed in eastern Europe, western and northern Asia, and the Middle East.
Taking away leg takedowns from Judo puts it down big time. The reason why BJJ is taking over with popularity now is because it’s more free, how TRUE JUDO used to be.... How can Judo be a complete grappling system without leg takedowns? These fools have taken away the Martial Arts behind Judo which is very sad. 🙏💯 BRING BACK REAL JUDO 🥋
One thing I would say is that Vinny wasn't going to be able to continue the match with Craig if he had to stand up again. Yes people can walk on a broken leg but I don't think he would have been able to take Craig down like that if he had to.
To this day I still don't choke people, Unless its on the street. It was just drilled into my head in the early days not to take the easy way out , otherwise I would not progress fast enough. I started with Judo, added Sambo later in my teens. I guess you are calling it combat Sambo because that's what I learned in the 90's. I always thought for my teachings that Sambo was the OG MMA. I then added Koickboxing, then traditional Japan Ju-Jitsu. Now studying 10 planet BJJ, I feel they are just a few steps of evolution ahead of Gracies BJJ.
After years of doing Shotokan... Kyokushin and Kickboxing My favorite sport drinking coffee on a couch ... 🤔🇺🇸 P.S...in 61 what a pleasure to swim in cold ocean....
why kobudo? most of kobudo weapons are useless (except bo staff) you probably can't carry, won't find anywhere and a agressor wont be using them is better to train kali silat, you will learn knives, machete and sticks, which you can find in a urban self defense scenario
"Дзюу до"="judo" on russian. This system named "дзюу до" ( judo) untill end 1937. (Renamed 16 November1938) In 2013 was published Library of Vasily Oshchepkov (07.01.1893-9/10.01.1937) Compiled by Alexey Gorbylev (Алексей Горбылев), owner of a part of the Oshchepkovs library.
@@muhammadibnmusaal-chorezmi7240 I don't agree. In Russia, they did not know judo! To change something, you need to know the original subject. They knew English boxing, French wrestling (in the USSR "classical wrestling") and" free-American wrestling " (in the USSR free-style wrestling).
@@kvk7628 The primary founder of sambo, Oshepkov, grew up in Japan. He studied in the orthodox mission of Tokyo. He was studying judo from 12 to 18. Decades later he started a club known as 'free syle judo.'. Years later his student Harlampiev renamed it into Sambo.
@@muhammadibnmusaal-chorezmi7240 I have never seen in Russian the phrase that can be translated as "free style". What period is it about? Moreover, after 1917, the written language was reformed. That's why it doesn't matter how to spell дзюу до or дзюдо or дзиудо. It is not distinguishable by ear.
I am sorry. I remembered about the freestyle. I quote a well-known specialist Alexey Gorbylev: " in the autumn of 1929, the central military newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda published a note signed "V. S. O.", which easily stands for "Vasily Sergeyevich Oshchepkov" with the title "Acclimatization of judo", which began with the words: "Finally, the issue of a system of self-defense without weapons for the Red Army has been resolved. The Red Army chooses judo..." He was arrested on the night of October 2, 1937, and died on the night of October 10. In December 1937, the first intercity tournament was held. It was a meeting of the teams of Moscow and Leningrad, and it was called "a freestyle wrestling (judo) meeting." Since 1938, the development of judo has continued at an increasing pace, but all this happened against the background of the escalation of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan. Recall that in the summer of 1938, hostilities unfolded on Lake Khasan in the Far East. And in this situation, in June 1938, the first All-Union training camp for Freestyle wrestling (judo) was held, and surprisingly it began as a freestyle wrestling training camp (judo), and ended as a freestyle wrestling training camp. The coaches gathered at it, probably, on the advice of senior managers, decided to rename freestyle wrestling (judo) into freestyle wrestling.
I totaly agree with you about self defence. Imo all these kids thinking MMA are close to selfdefence and in BJJ think no-gi is better for self defence. Thats so wrong. Gi imo are much better in a self defence situation. Alot of jackets can be used to choke with. I for one used a bow and arrow in selfdefence on a guy.
I understood throwing styles to be so effective, that a person who could execute an ippon would have defeated their adversary in real world so going into ground work wasnt necessary. I understand it to be that way, not necessarily fact, but then Daito-ryu offers some validation to this. I think Kito ryu was the throwing part of Judo, maybe tenshinryu too. But like you, I would like to see them go into groundwork too.
Здесь отличие в наличии силового броска, поскольку это не дзюдо и приёмы набирались в том числе из грузинской, и узбекской борьбы, а техника - тема чисто японская.
@Мишарская борьба я как хапсагаист могу сказать что даже вообще нет такой темы как чисто силовой бросок или чисто технический, везде есть броски и с упопом на мощь и с упором на техника но и тот и тот элемент присутствует в любом броске
Sambo haa taken more then half of its throws of georgian chidaoba. Sambo is a mixture of post soviet union martial arts of each country. Since there was 15 countrys or so on judo sambo had a fast variety lf techniques they could ise
Judo has you memorize a list of throws and has belt levels I like sambo better because no belt levels and rather than memorize throws you can improvise
@Chadi it is sad how YT is playing with our comments. I was surprised. I never said anything wrong. That’s why I commented multiple times when I couldn’t find my own previous comments.
"Gi is more street than no gi" - I would like to see you try to grip and grab someone's tshirt on the street. It will stretch and very quickly tear, you will be left with just a piece of fabric in your hand.
Yes I meant to say that no-gi is more street than gi. In most cases most clothing will stretch if not tear. If you rely on the gi for gripping so this will not work. Furthermore no-gi is much more slippery especially if you're sweating (the more sweating the more slippery), this makes in no-gi much easier to escape your way out of certain situations. @Chadi that video is irrelevant in my opinion, because 1) there are many throws that work with no gi, e.g ogoshi and koshi garuma just to name some basic ones, I never argued otherwise, but it would be nice to see okuri eri jime with no-gi for example, 2) it is not fighting when one side has superior advantage, gi and no-gi are both effective against an untrained opponent. The question is what would have happened if the situation evolved because both are equally skilled except for the gi / no-gi difference? And by no means I'm advocating this or that, to be fair in a street situation my top preference would be to run!
There's no reason someone couldn't develop one. Basically just take Judo and adapt it to a more practical combat oriented bases instead of a sports one.
@@thomasswafford250 I agree with you, but I think the question was if there is already a Combat Judo. Like you said, it's something awaiting for someone to create, or someone to rescue from the original Judo. But I bet Kodokan wouldn't recognize it as Judo, so we can also foresee some judicial battles ahead.
All Judo moves are not unique to judo. These moves use the same universal physical principles and have been in Turko-Mongol and other nations folk wrestling for thousands of years. As many other martial arts these moves probably came to Japan from China, and to China they came from Mongolia. All Kano did just summarized these moves and claimed his.
@@arystanbeck914 how many martial arts before Kano had a clear syllabus nage waza katame waza and has sub sections with specific names to techniques??? Very little. Jujutsu was a big mess of ryuha and gendai with no clear structure
More like boxing plus wrestling. Punches alone won,t save if you meet a grappler. And knowing how to grip is useful, you can catch opponent by his shirt, hood, belt, hair etc. a lot of options that will help you take him down.
No one is wearing a gi on the street and on top of the the average clothing is no where near as strong as a gi. And in warmer countries or summer months most are wearing t shirts. So no gi is best
Some people take up martial arts for the purpose of self defense. You can’t ignore that fact. Sport fighting has self defense merit but it’s not what they focus on.
By far, one of the BEST historical channels for Judo/wrestling/everything in between. Great Work, very informative to see how the arts evolved along its historical trend lines. Thank You.
Thank you so much
The Best my friend, the Best one. 😉🤟🏼
@@Chadi they say Sambo is a mix of Judo or pre world War 2 Judo or Jiu Jitsu until Kano changed the name mixed with Russian wrestling and Russian military techniques
@@Chadi and I love the Gracies and all they have contributed to MMA but it's wrong how the gracies say they refined Jiu Jitsu for smaller weaker people and there form of grappling is the best when countless of other Jiu Jitsu schools or Judo schools from old Japanese masters who moved to Brazil like Mitsuyo Maeda have tapped and beat the gracie schools same thing with sambo in MMA with seen Sambo guys tap out BJJ guys left and right
@@mikegreen5502that is a gracie lie. Jigoro kano was weak and small thats why he found judo.
0:00 - Introduction
1:25 - Invisibles differences
1:35 - Judo
1:55 - Sambo
3:20 - Russian folk wrestling styles
4:55 - Technicals differences
5:05 - Judo
5:55 - Sambo
8:25 - Combat sambo
9:45 - Rules
9:50 - Judo
10:35 - Sambo
11:50 - Chokes
12:20 - Conclusion
thanks
Hell yes, two of my favourite martial arts in on video time to grab the biscuits and tea😁
Enjoy my friend
Great video! Another difference I can think of is in defensive gripping - much of the defensive gripping in SAMBO would quickly get called as stalling in Judo, at least the modern IJF version of it. Same goes for certain offensive grips which can be held for longer periods of time in SAMBO but which require you to immediately attack or relinquish the grip in Judo.
Great video. Recently found a Russian guy to teach me Hybrid Judo (Judo+Sambo+BJJ) The conditioning Sambo guys do is insane. All three and the Okinawan karate Ik are very similar and feel like they’re a piece of the same pie.
What's the difference between judo and sambo?
@@seetsamolapo5600 sport Sambo and Judo are nearly the same in practice. Only difference is in competition, no chokes in Sambo, while in Judo no leg locks and leg grabs. Sport Sambo rules are similar to free style judo rules tho .
Combat sambo allows chokes.
Very exciting video. Nice to see these old footages.
Thank you
Excellent video, as always. This video made me remember the case of "Small circle Jujutsu" because the focus this jujutsu has on self defense and the use of joint locks and strikes that were filtered out both in judo and BJJ (sport version so to say). I dasre to suggest another video on this jujutsu, I'd like to hear your reflections on that. Thanks for sharing!
Will do
@Nikolaij Brouiller :-) !!
@Nikolaij Brouiller I studied a Chinese Boxing ciriculum and Casey who put it together was a good friend of Jay's.
... That's a bit insensitive though calling it Small Circle Jujitsu when it existed before that style even hit Black Belt Magazines. It was the system that was created as the military art efore it turned to a sport and its more than just Judo... It's also mixed with Gymnastics, Wrestling styles from the USSR states and it had mixes of the old Poznai Sebia Bogatyr and Cossack fighting styles.
It was designed to be easily taught to people enmasse so they could develop troops that could fight off the Nazis. Infact, they used it to survive the incredibly powerful Nazis who trained in such a hardcore way and were injected with earlier versions of performance enhancement drugs while being told such exercises as Build a Tank in 30minutes. Each soldier had to carry incredible amounts just to pull it off so these men were enhanced and were even said to be able to kill with one bear hug, they were numb to pain and were very dangerous.
The Russians engaged them in hand to hand with some success compared to the Allies because of Sambo where they kept them stopped at Stalingrad until their country was attacked by the other allies and taken over, ending the war... With the Russians losing over 2 million men in the whole war, highest casualties of any war from one country for being the stopping force and immovable army to Hitler's March through Russia.
The sports version I believe is cut in two parts. A striking and wreslring/grappling part.
@@mishaaskar3323 You got it wrong, I said it reminded me that style and it was intended as a compliment. Please read more carefully.
Благодоря Ощепкову, был проведен, первый в мире, международный турнир по дзюдо! Турнир между дзюдоистами Японии и России..
C, How do you find all these awesome old videos? Thank you for sharing them and preserving the history.
Thank you John
Another thing that is massively different when it comes to sambo, specially combat sambo is that in combat sambo it is very much legal to head butt, on the ground or standing up. there are been more than a few fight where someone won due to head butts.
Love your videos, keep it up! thank you for passing on this wonderful information.
Thank you Andrew
All Samboists in Russia and the Ukraine have a black belt Judo, minimum.
Thanks for sharing
And all respect judo unlike Gracies and few other Brazilians
@@oneguy7202 the Gracies I know respect Judo, practice it and have Olympic champions as students as well as coaches who they interchange knowledge with.
@@RoomAtTheTopStudio they learnt judo and they say that learn ju jutsu, sure the helio side doesn't respect judo or any other art. Carlson Gracie and his students allong Ezekiel is a different story.
@@oneguy7202 Mauricio, Roger, Carlson Jnr all respect Judo. I've trained with a visiting Brazilian coach who took an Aikido technique and used it to tap out a whole class even when we knew what he was going to do. Good coaches adapt techniques from other arts. I don't think that there is anything wrong with that.
Great video as usual. Very insightful and informative.
After watching some of your prior videos and collating from my own research, I think pre-1922 Judo might be more similar to gi bjj up until the 2005-10 era. Barring the berimbolos (though the truck roll existed as you've shown in another video), lapel based guards, and maybe the concept of guard play (not guard pull or Hiki komi), pre-1922 judo would have looked very similar. A throw wouldn't finish a fight but rather give waza ari. A submission would. You could pull guard and submit and fights continued for hours (more stalling allowed than contemporary bjj). Maeda and Omori went and taught the art in Brazil in an era before the banning of ashi garami, hiza juji gatame and hiki komi in Kano's ju-jutsu. It's more probable that the Brazilians taught keeping the standards and as is widely known refused to agree to the new judo rules set by Kodokan in the 50s where they asked all of Kano' s lineage across the world to follow. The Gracies were given official Dan ranks then and asked to comply to the new ruleset and call their art Judo. The Gracies chose to refuse stating that points/ippon was not actual marker of a winner and only a submission is. Also, contemporary judo in its quest for ippon and shido for defence has spoilt it's essence of the small person's art. If you see Mifune Sensei, his style was based on defence and counterattack to get the ippon rather than protectively attack to get the ippon. He would even stop the opponent below the belt in the hips when the opponent would turn for any major throw. In today's judo Mifune sensei would be disqualified in every match.
Sambo on the other hand, rather than a creation of a system, it was the creation of a unified ruleset that would get together all ethnic wrestling styles and the people practicing them have a common platform to identify and compete in while also upholding the unity of the Soviet Union. Therefore a unified, open-ended, catch jacket wrestling like ruleset. When Sambo spread, it is more probable that regional wrestlers were just briefed on a ruleset for competition rather than the founders going around teaching everyone a style.
Hope this makes sense. Would be keen to hear your perspective.
It makes sense, thank you for sharing
Chadi, I am a huge martial arts fan especially the grappling arts. I especially love the history of them.
I can say from the bottom of my heart yours are (in my opinion) the BEST videos on the history and especially comparative history of these arts.
Thank you very much for the time and effort on these videos and please keep up the good work
Thank you Paul this means so much to me
Totally agree. 👍🏼👍🏼
When U.S. Army Ranger Battalion was looking for an unarmed combatives program in the 90s the first choice was Combat Sambo, however no reputable instructors could be found in the U.S.A...So Gracie Jiujitsu was settled upon due to Royce Gracie's success in UFC 1, thus U.S. Army Gracie Combatives was created for the Army Rangers and later became the base for M.A.C.P. (modern army combatives program) adopted by the entire U.S. Army...But Combat Sambo had been the first choice...I agree with Chadi, there's no better unarmed combat school than Combat Sambo. Kodokan Judo being close 2nd. (I will comment, in southern region of U.S. vast majority of men quickly remove shirts before fighting to prevent the shirt being pulled over the head or used against them. It's more uncommon for young men in the southern U.S. to keep their shirt on when they go to fight or attack another male. So we see many grapplers resort to grabbing the shorts or the pants for a double leg takedown for ground & pound. But seldom are fights one vs one in the southern region of U.S.A. thus further complicating. So all grapplers must also have boxing skills, at least in the southern U.S.A., especially if you end up in a U.S. jail you need both boxing & grappling (Wrestling, Sambo or Judo). I was U.S. Army before incarcerated for self defense and grew up in the rough & tumble southern U.S.A.
Agreed thanks for sharing
wow. I trained with an Army Ranger. I did not know that. That is interesting. Thank you very much.
Great....U.S. Army hand to hand combat program chosen because of an event that was basically one big infomercial for BJJ.
You were incarcerated for self defense?
Please explain.
My only question is, "why the heck we don't have Combat Sambo, or even Sambo, in Brazil?".
That's something I just can't figure out.
It looks like it has the perfect set of technics to successfully lay roots in Brazil, but for some reason Argentina got it, but Brazil didn't.
Go figure it.
Chadi, thanks for another great video!
Perhaps the bjj judo cultural dominance
@@Chadi, but I can't deny that what you said make sense. 😅😅😅
you had vale tudo in bjj
I know Cuba and Dominican Repbulic have Sambo academys along with Judo. Im not sure of the rest of Latin America.
I've seen a Sambo gym in Curitiba, I don't know if it's any good though... but definetely gracies bjj and lots of japanese immigrants with judo, influenced our country
Judo & Sambo similar but different & one in the same. Both RESPECT !!!
Hi Chadi.....another great video thanks for posting.....stay safe, best regards, Stefano.
Thank you Stefano
In Russia, in almost every judo hall we also practice sambo. You rarely see gyms where there is only judo or only sambo. We are gaining experience in competitions in two sports. When we grow up, we choose judo or sambo specifically. Usually everyone tries to get into the national judo team because it’s prestigious and highly paid and you can go to the Olympics. if someone is not good at judo, then he goes to sambo, or someone who likes sambo more from childhood, then he goes to sambo. Sambo is also paid for and is developing; there are also large sports centers where only Sambo.
Mannnnn!!!! So happy you put this out Chadi :) as a shooto/Sambo understudy I love the comparison between the two arts. I cant see martial arts without the two but yet I feel they are very different as you pointed out both in terms of the arts but also culturally. I really think that if you are wise as a martial artist you would try to find a middle ground to take something from both arts. Thank you again Chadi and hope you are well brother :)
Thank you brother
Japanese martial arts plays a big part of Russian martial evolution since the 50's until now. Spetnaz soldiers are now black belts in karate, judo, and jujutsu because or Japan influence.
Buddy your channel is great! Greetings from Azerbaijan
Any body else see that jump guard takedown, never seen that, thanks for sharing, it was in the old footage
Combat Sambo was so good at defense, Soviet Authorities began to be afraid of masses learning it and using it to defend themselves against the authorities, so they've banned combat aspect of it, along with other striking martial arts, like karate, and allowed for only wrestling aspects of sambo to be learned by regular people, while keeping combat sambo only for law enforcement forces and the military.
You have a complete delusion, no sambo can threaten the authorities. The bans were related to the desire of the authorities to reduce the amount of crime on the streets. Let me also remind you that the restriction on combat sambo , in the USSR, was promoted on behalf of the police, and not from the political leadership in the USSR.
Big govt always pausing awesome shit when the masses get good at it
Very well explained.
Saudações do Brasil!! Sou judoca e lutador de jiu jitsu!!! Congratulations
Obrigado
Judo + Kures (Turkic wrestling) + some other USSR wrestling styles = Sambo which means Self-defense without weapon
Combat sambo's striking is like a mix of karate and kickboxing; their kickboxing is somewhere in between oriental and K-1 rules type of style, though, the boxing doesn't seem to be as good in comparsion. Scott Sonnon formalized combat sambo rules in 2000, I think before combat sambo were little kinds of matches held very rarely in late 80s and 90s. Scott Sonnon helped influenced the leg lock boom by Renzo Gracie's bb John Danaher's death squad with leg locks being their big craze. Scott Sonnon said in master the saddle, leg lock dvd from 2007/2008, the guard in the future will become too difficult to pass and leg locks will be the equalizer those complicated types of guard. This is more of a catch approach like you know see in no gi comps with not getting stuck in these types of guards and going for leg locks right off the bat.
Küdo and Combat Sambo are both pretty amazing and underrated. Combat Sambo is definitely more developed than Kudo though. Probably more developed than MMA
The ankle locks from Sambo hurt I know I have had some applied to my ankles
sambo is authentic judo, and combat sambo is combat judo. Kano began to collect various techniques from different peoples of the world. Oshchepkov and his school continued this work
Combat sambo, I think, is very interesting... Japan's kudo is another gi-wearing MMA-like martial art sport..... I would have loved to have trained in either when I was younger.... Not many pre-mma martial arts sports combine grappling with striking it seems
pankration, the original olympic sport
Қазақша күрес (Kazakh wrestling or Kazakh kuresi) is a traditional wrestling style of Kazakhstan and one of the oldest sports of Asia as it can be traced back to 1200 to 600 BC. A wrestler in kazakh language is called "Палуан".
excellent analysis!!!!!
Thank you
modern mma has grown to be very much like combat sambo. Since the true effective martial arts are just the few that we already know thanks to the ufc (kickboxing + wrestling/judo + bjj), mma is at this time 99% of the time a combination of those specific arts, and so it is combat sambo. The main difference is, excepting some minor rules, the viscerality in which combat is presented, being mma much more gruesome to watch than combat sambo
Great video chadi
Great video. Excellent work 😁
Thank you Rashid
Chadi thank you once again for producing high quality videos. In this particular presentation you were insightful, and you explain subtle differences of the two art clearly. God bless and your family.
I absolutely love this channel thank you sir Chadi
Thank you Michael
Hi, First of all 0:13 LOL hahahahaah... now, I think the difference in rules shouldn't keep the arts away from practicing everything, but that's the problem that comes with a "only sport" mentality. When they set their minds on "this is a sport" then they will only favor sport techniques and throw away everything else. While if you say "this is an art and we teach everything BUT for sports, we will use this techniques" is the right way to go in my opinion. I do Karate, and when they ban something from the sport, many people start to not teachning it at the Dojo, which is stupid, none says becuase its banned in the sport you have to remove it all together from the Art.
Sports Sambo is soft vs full contact, where alot more allowed.
7:25 - FIAS rules sport sambo does have ude garami, exactly the same principle as Judo - it has to be on the elbow and not the shoulder
Wow! Look at that hane goshi on 2:25
Cool video loved every second of it mind telling me what movies were featured in the first couple of minutes of this short documentary ?
Great video! I've subscribed!
It's kind of like the difference between Hapkido and TKD.
? TKD and Hapkido are totally unrelated arts. TKD derives from karate, and Hapkido derives from JuJitsu. Even the striking is completely different.
Salut Chadi! Elles sont vachement sympa les musiques que tu mets dans tes vidéos. Ce sont quels artistes?
Russia is a very multicultural country with many different races. Sambo probably has combined Mongolian wrestling, Judo and many other techniques developed in eastern Europe, western and northern Asia, and the Middle East.
Sambo has judo but does also have Mongolian wrestling, Savate (French kickboxing), catch wrestling and more in the mix.
initially it was Judo plus Greco Roman plus Georgian wrestling
I'd love to learn Sambo
Taking away leg takedowns from Judo puts it down big time. The reason why BJJ is taking over with popularity now is because it’s more free, how TRUE JUDO used to be.... How can Judo be a complete grappling system without leg takedowns? These fools have taken away the Martial Arts behind Judo which is very sad. 🙏💯 BRING BACK REAL JUDO 🥋
Bjj severely lacks in nage waza it is no representation of what true judo is
BJJ lacks takedown sylabus. In a real fight any pulling guard at street - leading to slam which is mostly concussion.
"sambo is underrated"
Oh man. I subscribed just to hear you say one day "Kudo is underrated" lol
Hoping to see a vid about it one day.
Kudo seems incredibly similar to combat sambo
@@bruceparker6142 with an infusion of tradition, rituals, better face protection and admittance of using techniques from other martial arts.
And Sanda
@@Kaelan66 didn't know there's grappling in sanda
One thing I would say is that Vinny wasn't going to be able to continue the match with Craig if he had to stand up again. Yes people can walk on a broken leg but I don't think he would have been able to take Craig down like that if he had to.
If your life depended on it most people would walk
i love Sambo & Systema 👍🙏
Check out Scottish Backhold wrestling its pretty cool
Do a video combat sambo vs kudo
To this day I still don't choke people, Unless its on the street.
It was just drilled into my head in the early days not to take the easy way out , otherwise I would not progress fast enough.
I started with Judo, added Sambo later in my teens. I guess you are calling it combat Sambo because that's what I learned in the 90's. I always thought for my teachings that Sambo was the OG MMA.
I then added Koickboxing, then traditional Japan Ju-Jitsu.
Now studying 10 planet BJJ, I feel they are just a few steps of evolution ahead of Gracies BJJ.
After years of doing Shotokan... Kyokushin and Kickboxing
My favorite sport drinking coffee on a couch ...
🤔🇺🇸
P.S...in 61 what a pleasure to swim in cold ocean....
nice video but about self defense i think there is nothing better than okinawan karate: striking,grappling and weapons with kobudo
I miss practicing Isshin-ryu...
They're both good
so basically kung fu
@SPlinter Echelon It's a hybrid style of Goju-ryu and Shorin-ryu. It has a kobudo curriculum teaching the bo, sai, and tonfa.
why kobudo? most of kobudo weapons are useless (except bo staff)
you probably can't carry, won't find anywhere and a agressor wont be using them
is better to train kali silat, you will learn knives, machete and sticks, which you can find in a urban self defense scenario
Where did they get the name Sambo???? Is from the SE Asian kings ?
abbreviation of the first letters of the term Self-defense without weapons
Good video
Thank you
Can you tell me something about and link the historic photage with the two wreslers?
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"Дзюу до"="judo" on russian. This system named "дзюу до" ( judo) untill end 1937. (Renamed 16 November1938)
In 2013 was published Library of Vasily Oshchepkov (07.01.1893-9/10.01.1937)
Compiled by Alexey Gorbylev (Алексей Горбылев), owner of a part of the Oshchepkovs library.
This system was named 'free style judo' , the idea was to remove limitations that existed in the judo.
@@muhammadibnmusaal-chorezmi7240 I don't agree. In Russia, they did not know judo! To change something, you need to know the original subject. They knew English boxing, French wrestling (in the USSR "classical wrestling") and" free-American wrestling " (in the USSR free-style wrestling).
@@kvk7628 The primary founder of sambo, Oshepkov, grew up in Japan. He studied in the orthodox mission of Tokyo. He was studying judo from 12 to 18. Decades later he started a club known as 'free syle judo.'. Years later his student Harlampiev renamed it into Sambo.
@@muhammadibnmusaal-chorezmi7240 I have never seen in Russian the phrase that can be translated as "free style". What period is it about?
Moreover, after 1917, the written language was reformed. That's why it doesn't matter how to spell дзюу до or дзюдо or дзиудо. It is not distinguishable by ear.
I am sorry. I remembered about the freestyle.
I quote a well-known specialist Alexey Gorbylev: " in the autumn of 1929, the central military newspaper Krasnaya Zvezda published a note signed "V. S. O.", which easily stands for "Vasily Sergeyevich Oshchepkov" with the title "Acclimatization of judo", which began with the words: "Finally, the issue of a system of self-defense without weapons for the Red Army has been resolved. The Red Army chooses judo..."
He was arrested on the night of October 2, 1937, and died on the night of October 10.
In December 1937, the first intercity tournament was held. It was a meeting of the teams of Moscow and Leningrad, and it was called "a freestyle wrestling (judo) meeting."
Since 1938, the development of judo has continued at an increasing pace, but all this happened against the background of the escalation of relations between the Soviet Union and Japan. Recall that in the summer of 1938, hostilities unfolded on Lake Khasan in the Far East. And in this situation, in June 1938, the first All-Union training camp for Freestyle wrestling (judo) was held, and surprisingly it began as a freestyle wrestling training camp (judo), and ended as a freestyle wrestling training camp. The coaches gathered at it, probably, on the advice of senior managers, decided to rename freestyle wrestling (judo) into freestyle wrestling.
Que hermosa imágenes , muy históricas .
Excellent!
Thank you
Greetings from Athens!
@@steliosgourdoubas4189 greetings from France
Khabib Nurmagomedov ufc fighters 29-0 combat sambo
Awesome Video!
Thank you
I totaly agree with you about self defence. Imo all these kids thinking MMA are close to selfdefence and in BJJ think no-gi is better for self defence. Thats so wrong. Gi imo are much better in a self defence situation. Alot of jackets can be used to choke with. I for one used a bow and arrow in selfdefence on a guy.
Judo is the best
Sambo is awesome, but those little shorts gotta go. I’d rather just wear a full gi.
I wish Judo went beyond the ippon all the way to a submission.
Same
I understood throwing styles to be so effective, that a person who could execute an ippon would have defeated their adversary in real world so going into ground work wasnt necessary. I understand it to be that way, not necessarily fact, but then Daito-ryu offers some validation to this. I think Kito ryu was the throwing part of Judo, maybe tenshinryu too.
But like you, I would like to see them go into groundwork too.
How would it be different from bjj or nanatei judo?
How do you imagine it to be?
I can't get with the landing on the head, I see those moves dangerous especially if I land on on cement.
Hey Chadi, what d be the technical, or mechanical difference between a throw in judo vs sambo?
Здесь отличие в наличии силового броска, поскольку это не дзюдо и приёмы набирались в том числе из грузинской, и узбекской борьбы, а техника - тема чисто японская.
@Мишарская борьба я как хапсагаист могу сказать что даже вообще нет такой темы как чисто силовой бросок или чисто технический, везде есть броски и с упопом на мощь и с упором на техника но и тот и тот элемент присутствует в любом броске
Judo is elite.
In Azerbaijani language “güləş” just means wrestling.
Just so you know
You can do udi but it can't go behind uke's back.
Sambo haa taken more then half of its throws of georgian chidaoba.
Sambo is a mixture of post soviet union martial arts of each country. Since there was 15 countrys or so on judo sambo had a fast variety lf techniques they could ise
Judo has you memorize a list of throws and has belt levels
I like sambo better because no belt levels and rather than memorize throws you can improvise
Oh my God! My comments don't see the light here! What is going on?!
It shows up in the notification box when i click it it's not there, it happens often, but i saw it, yes no martial art has the perfect rule set
@Chadi it is sad how YT is playing with our comments. I was surprised. I never said anything wrong. That’s why I commented multiple times when I couldn’t find my own previous comments.
No martial art has the perfect rule set, is what i meant to say
Sambo is just a better version of judo with less formal tradition. Only what works is focused on
"Gi is more street than no gi" - I would like to see you try to grip and grab someone's tshirt on the street. It will stretch and very quickly tear, you will be left with just a piece of fabric in your hand.
That argument is so old
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Yes I meant to say that no-gi is more street than gi. In most cases most clothing will stretch if not tear. If you rely on the gi for gripping so this will not work. Furthermore no-gi is much more slippery especially if you're sweating (the more sweating the more slippery), this makes in no-gi much easier to escape your way out of certain situations.
@Chadi that video is irrelevant in my opinion, because 1) there are many throws that work with no gi, e.g ogoshi and koshi garuma just to name some basic ones, I never argued otherwise, but it would be nice to see okuri eri jime with no-gi for example, 2) it is not fighting when one side has superior advantage, gi and no-gi are both effective against an untrained opponent. The question is what would have happened if the situation evolved because both are equally skilled except for the gi / no-gi difference?
And by no means I'm advocating this or that, to be fair in a street situation my top preference would be to run!
The Gi resembles the uniform of a soldier. It is probably best to train wrestling in addition. The best Judo chokes is done by exploiting the Gi.
Both of martial arts are nice but Judo is my favorite 🥋
Sambo is good but they don't allow chokes
What about kudo vs judo?
Already did
@@Chadi just noticed lol 😂 was about to watch it now
Ia there combat Judo ?
Unfortunately no
Man, that wold be a great discipline... And pretty much look like the original Judo, I bet! 👍🏼👍🏼
There's no reason someone couldn't develop one. Basically just take Judo and adapt it to a more practical combat oriented bases instead of a sports one.
@@thomasswafford250 I agree with you, but I think the question was if there is already a Combat Judo. Like you said, it's something awaiting for someone to create, or someone to rescue from the original Judo. But I bet Kodokan wouldn't recognize it as Judo, so we can also foresee some judicial battles ahead.
Most similar would be Kudo or Enshin Karate
What‘s the background music called?
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sambo - is just a style of judo
Sambo is just a catch wrestling with GI
All Judo moves are not unique to judo. These moves use the same universal physical principles and have been in Turko-Mongol and other nations folk wrestling for thousands of years. As many other martial arts these moves probably came to Japan from China, and to China they came from Mongolia. All Kano did just summarized these moves and claimed his.
There were moves that were unique to judo,but thanks to Judo spreading itself all over it's not true as much anymore, and no on the second part.
Judo structured it, and Kano mever claimed to invent them
@@Chadi what does it mean, structured?
@@eagle162 like what?
@@arystanbeck914 how many martial arts before Kano had a clear syllabus nage waza katame waza and has sub sections with specific names to techniques??? Very little.
Jujutsu was a big mess of ryuha and gendai with no clear structure
Why does the referee look seriously British? A right proper fellow.
This is Aejf judo.
Chadi, what do you think about this perspective of the history of judo/jujitsu in Brazil:
ruclips.net/video/UiVyUQqkWro/видео.html
I'll check it out
Sambo is 2 years old a street fight martial arts by Russian governments projects
Ils existent deux types de Sambo....
gi is not real fighting, sorry, maybe in winter but even then. best style for a real fight is obviously boxing
not a fact ,
More like boxing plus wrestling. Punches alone won,t save if you meet a grappler. And knowing how to grip is useful, you can catch opponent by his shirt, hood, belt, hair etc. a lot of options that will help you take him down.
👍👊🏆
Sambo rules
Can i use sambo in real life 🤥😅
Sure
@@Chadi really
@@xyzmani6422 just like judo yes
@@Chadi 🖤
No one is wearing a gi on the street and on top of the the average clothing is no where near as strong as a gi. And in warmer countries or summer months most are wearing t shirts. So no gi is best
We gotta move past "which style/sport most resembles a street fight". Street fights don't even resemble each other.
Some people take up martial arts for the purpose of self defense. You can’t ignore that fact. Sport fighting has self defense merit but it’s not what they focus on.
PAY JAM GI !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Title typo: *cultural
Thanks
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