How Pyra and Mythra Won Over the Smash Bros. Community
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Another Nintendo first party Smash Bros. Ultimate DLC character, another wave of backlash from the fanbase. So how did Pyra and Mythra turn things around when the other first party DLC characters couldn't? You'll have to watch to find out!
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I should probably start locking my doors.
But how will I be able to interrupt you with my funny quips?
I've got a window too 👀
He always wanted mario golf and hungered for it so much that he sleeps with a golf club
I've played golf since I was 4 so it's been in my life as long as Smash Bros :)
@@PowPowSmash oh my gosh
You must have a legacy with that series
@@0sharkyshakes126 yeah I've poured years of my life into every new Smash game and I still love every new one as much as I did as a kid ☺️
“how pyra and mythra won over the smash community”
we know exactly why.
I never thought I’d need to see Gaston with the aegis sword in my life lmao. Im so excited to play the flag ship characters of crystal chronicles :) Great video as always man, I’m excited to see what else you come up with in the future!
Thanks Javi! Gaston is my favorite villain in Crystal Chronicles 😍
"I'm supposed to be able to hit you now, GET BACK HERE!"
Lmao
Blazing End is the most frustrating move they have for me to deal with and it's not even close 🤣🤣💀
The reason why they picked Byleth is probably because picking one of the Three house leaders would cause an uproar in the fandom because Nintendo would be playing favorites with one particular house. And doing all three would have been way too much work because that's now three characters in one slot that they didn't originally plan for. I love Three Houses, and while Byleth isn't my favorite character from that game, I understand why they went with them and it doesn't matter to me because they're so fun to use.
7:05 ~ I'm still salty that we didn't had Elma bringing her MF transforming Mecha!
2:48 I really don't think Mr. Sakurai would care that much about spoilers. I mean look at the Pnema and Master Driver Rex spirits and alt. But I guess Nia would be a step too far for even Sakurai.
Yeah Sakurai has started to tone down the spoilers a tad (probably because of the backlash) but I definitely think spoiling Nia would be going too far 😅
I had the same reaction of seeing pyra joining
There's something about Pyra that I just loved watching all of XC2's cutscenes, she's awesome ♥️
I want to just have a clip of you sitting up out of bed and brandishing a golf club while saying "Yo Mario Golf??" LMAO
I'll be home later so if you dm me (idk what social media you still have if any) your email I can send you the clip :)
So... you do know that the reason the swapping mechanic was dropped from Smash 4 was because the 3DS couldn't handle it, right? Same reason the Ice Climbers were axed?
I actually didn't know that at the time of making this video! Someone in the comment section of my "Fixing Stale Smash Bros. Characters" video pointed it out to me so I learned something new. Won't make that mistake in future videos :)
Hey Rex is here in spirit (pun intended). Plus he's apart of one of my favourite taunts. Something about him yelling "GO PYRA" hits my happy bones.
But back on topic, at the Direct at first I was sorta just meh on Pyra and Mythra. I wasn't mad another anime-like swordfighter from JAPAN was getting in or that Nintendo was adding a Nintendo characters into their Nintendo game but I wasn't exactly ecstatic. The only RPGs I'm really into are Pokemon and Mario and Luigi so while I knew who they were cause I'm a Nintendo nut like that and knew a lot of people wanted them, I never really knew about the characters past what little I heard. Then I saw them in action and was like "Yes please give me Photon Edge" (I still don't know how that move works and I think that adds to why I love it). The Aegises have quickly become my favourite DLC to play, beating out Byleth. It wasn't a character I wanted but Bandana Dee and Eggman seem more like pipe dreams at this point and these sword ladies are just so much of a blast to switch and attack with. It's like if the made Zelda and Shiek...well good.
Some people need to chill and remember that the characters that they want aren't garunteed, just because they have one of thethe MOST POPULAR WEAPONS IN FICTON doesn't mean they're cut outs from the last swordie and to show some love to the people who did want this because they do exist. It's okay to be disappointed but don't go around saying no one wanted them because that's easily proven false.
And I'm getting that Mario Golf game for the soul reason of Bowser wearing pants.
There's something about reading "I'm getting Mario Golf so I can see bowser wearing pants" that just completes this comment 🤣♥️
Not gonna lie, when this character was first announced I was pretty disappointed. I wanted someone else and every other character that allows you to switch between different characters (Pokemon trainer, zelda and sheik in brawl, etc) have been some of my least liked fighters. One day I gave into temptation and selected her, expecting to be disappointed. However this was not the case. I don't how to explain it but Pyra/Mythra's gameplay is so smooth and fluid and just....so much fun. In a time where smash was getting pretty boring for me, this character made me realize why I love this game so much. From initial disappointment, to my new main, I love this fighter and anyone that's still mad....just try them out, and I'll sure you'll be pleasantly surprised. Thank you for reading my way to long TED Talk about Pyra and Mythra.
(Also the new stage and music was fire too)
That's awesome Alexander! This is a great example of what has made Pyra and Mythra more well received than the other first party DLC. The others just haven't been as fun or as good to play as. Enjoy your new main and enjoy XC2's killer soundtrack 🔥
This comment is more then true.
I think everyone wanted waluigi to be smash bros character
I’ll see you on the Toadstool Tour
Don't bring Lloyd with you
I'm not a Xenoblade fan but it's dope to see a Nintendo franchise with not much representation getting another character and managing to make a sword character interesting is an accomplishment 🤣
LOL ikr? I wish they would overhaul the fire emblem movesets since half of them are the same 💀
After all the time that passes since their inclusion, I’m not sure if they really won over the Smash community. I see them crapped on as much as Byleth and Min Min now despite having a lot of requests, not being characters from a series many felt was over represented, and being from a highly acclaimed game
1:08 I thought I was the only one!
If an RPG doesn't have a great story it's doing it wrong 🤣
Sakurai just likes this anime sword fighter. And... I think I like this anime sword fighter as well. Mythra is stupid fast and Pyra hits like a truck. Somehow that character just works for me.
They're a ton of fun to play! Plus they're just dope characters in their own game so you really can't go wrong :)
5:43
The fuck you just say about my son? >:(
_"Think you can take- ME?"_
DON'T FORGET ME
Louie Bandana waddle dee Dixie Kong Dark matter swordsman Wahluigi Aran Ryan Galacta knight Fawfull King boo Skull kid the botw champions and Mr. Sandman just to name a couple first party reps
I would love Impa or a BoTW champion ngl!
you can actually make the argument that Pyra and mythra are the actual main character of Xenoblade chronicles 2, they are the driving force of the party, they are the literally the plot device and love interest that needs saving, and they appear in both the main story line AND the prequel expansion "torna the golden country".
Mythra is probably the main character of all Xenoblade Chronicles 2. Hell I even say Jin is more important than Rex.
Oh, there are quite a few Nintendo reps we could get out... you mentioned Dixie, she's a start. We could also have Rundas, Ghor, and Gandrayda (all Metroid), Adeleine & Ribbon (Kirby), Captain Syrup and Princess Shokora (both Wario Land), Fawful (Mario & Luigi), Vivian (Paper Mario), Poochy and Kamek (both Yoshi), Porky (MOTHER)...
Porky and Kamek I could see but probably not the rest tbh (even as a diehard Paper Mario fan). Unless the game is brand new or retro Nintendo dislikes adding characters that only appeared in one game a while ago :( Fawful would be dope but I'd be surprised if they would make any sort of reference to what is probably a dead spinoff series at this point unfortunately
@@PowPowSmash Based on that, then Adeleine & Ribbon might have a chance. They were in Star Allies, and their combined moveset could make a good translation into Ultimate.
Sounds cool! I think Bandana Dee has a better shot due to being the fourth character everyone thinks of I'm the Kirby franchise but you never know
@@PowPowSmash I also think that Captain Syrup could make it in, too. She may not have appeared in any recent games (sadly), but she IS Wario's archnemesis and a pretty important character in Nintendo's history. She'd be the K. Rool pick.
Still hoping for a Sonic Rep but Pyra & Mythra's inclusion was pretty hype to me
Sameeee, in my reaction I said I had a feeling that we would get a first party rep in the first Nintendo Direct in 500 days and I was right. Still got two more slots to get another Sonic rep and I'm happy Pyra/Mythra got added in the meantime!
I'm hoping one of the final slots will be either Tails (who could bring some interesting mechanics with his gadgets and flight) or Robotnik (same, and more villians).
@@DarthLocutus0 We don't need Eggman because we have R.O.B. What makes rob so great is that he doesn't have his own stage. Therefore Rob can represent video game Robots in General. So we can pretend that we're playing as an EGGMAN robot.
No, no, no, no, no... Mythra won the smash community with five words:
THINK YOU CAN TAKE ME?!
DON'T FORGET ME!
I remember buying the game a month before Pyra/Mythra reveal and it was incredible when they got in because the game was very exciting. Only sad that I got spoiled for Pneuma aka vegito blue from mr sakurai
Yeah Sakurai loves his spoilers too much 😭 I'm surprised he didn't spoil Nia somehow
Only 60+ hours??
You’re underestimating the length.
Depends on how hard you go on the sidequests and all that! But you're probably right lol
0:50 no what we rlly needed was geno.
I see you misspelled Paper Mario but that's okay honest mistake!
@@PowPowSmash ok but let’s be honest here, what rlly needed this whole time was Sakurai himself as a playable character
I'm no Xenoblade fan but Pyra and Mythra has been my main ever since they have been revealed
That's awesome! They're my second most played character now 😊
But... but... they were made for me. I have a Stance Sword character now.
Joker is a stance sword character too :)
@@PowPowSmash I'd say he's more of an install, but yeah. I play him too, but he don't scratch the gameplay itch I have like Py/thra does.
Actually the reason why it was Pyra&mythra alone and not Rex with Pyra&mythra as support was because making a character with all 3 (with 2 of them on stage at all time) would’ve been to complicated to make and sakurai didn’t think just Rex was a good idea neither, so he went with Pyra&mythra.
Excuse me LEGIT SPLATOON 3
Oh yeah we definitely should've mentioned Splatoon 3 in the intro, I just don't play Splatoon so I honestly forgot 😅
I love Xenoblade, but it honestly felt like one rep was enough. I got over my disappointment quickly enough though. They *do* look fun to play as, so I’ll take what I can get.
Oh even as a fan you didn't think Xenoblade needed another rep? Interesting! It makes sense to me since it's a growing Nintendo ip but everyone can have their own opinion
@@PowPowSmash Personally, I would have been more excited to see Shantae. Indie games have been an increasingly big portion of Nintendo’s library ever since the DSi. My main problem with Xenoblade rep isn’t that it’s bad, or that it’s bland (far from it) it just feels like the series is still in its infancy (barely three games in,) and that the one rep is generous enough.
Shantae still has a chance. Way forward have been very quiet lately about it scene the release of ulimate. A fan asked shantae's voice actor "What are you're thoughts about shantae being in smash?" She said no comment but would love to have her in. If the voice actor of shantae could not talk about her, them that means some form of Shantae content is coming to smash.
@@AT-rp8zy Nintendo won't allow Indie characters in Smash.
@@lukedelameter7961 Xenoblade 2 in Smash was heavily requested by Japanese fans.
3:00 what are you talking about there are a lot of first party characters that they can add like chibi robo
If only Nintendo cared about Chibi Robo and didn't treat the franchise like dirt 😭
what he says is true,if you're picking this character in hopes maining her because you think it will be easy to beat other characters....don't, they're the physical representation of smash's gameplay: easy to pick up, fun to play but really hard to master.
Taking shortcuts is never the answer, playing a character because they're fun :) you can problem solve the hard stuff after that
@@PowPowSmash exactly, truth be told I'm not into all that competitive stuff to begin with, heck I don't give a damn on who gets into smash, I just want fun characters that are fun to play, I liked byleth's inclusion, I loved min min's inclusion heck the worst reaction I've gotten out of a DLC inclusion has been total indiference with Steve, I play the game for fun and I thank god I'm alive to witness this miracle of a game even exists.
"Code Geass vs. TTGL"
Oh, boy. Don't make me choose.
Anyway, good video. I personally think that when it comes to DLC reception, Byleth will remain the lowest point in what remains of Ultimate's lifespan. I don't see anyone attracting as much hate, division, and controversy as him, so I'm not worried about the last DLCs. They could even add freaking Goku, Batman, Shrek or Waluigi, and eventually most people would be okay with it. Hopefully I'm not mistaken. For better or worse, Byleth crashed down everyone's expectations, and taught us to keep them low and not let our overhype blind us.
Code Geass is one of my favorite animes period and you know where I stand with the ending of GL now 😅
Agreed, I love Fire Emblem and Three Houses but another FE sword character released at the very end of a fighter pass full of amazing third party reps was just awful timing
I'm excited to see who the final two characters are, whoever they are 😊
i mean the biggest reason is probably their um..... y'know whats
Of course it's because of their really big- swords!
wake up babe powpow posted another banger
also MARIO GOLF ! MARIO GOLF ! MARIO GOLF !
You're the best Lil 😭♥️ hopefully you can come up to Milwaukee and play with us soon! Karvin said you reached out :)
mythra/pyra are amazing characters
The best heroines of nintendo finally in smash
They're an awesome duo, their spot is well deserved :)
I know I’m late but your missing toad
Can't wait for that PowPow Mario Golf video
Idk if there will be much to talk about but I'm making a video about the game regardless LOL. Maybe BigRig and I will just do a live commentary drinking game of it or something
5:45 Why you gotta single out Pit man? He’s good!…
I definitely went unnecessarily out of my way to make fun of him here LOL
We have a PR player in our local scene that swears Pit is amazing (Pit is okay imo) and chooses to play him over his Wolf that's really good so I felt the need to get at least one shot in on Pit in one of my videos haha
Video title: *Exists*
Those of R**e culture: *Calls Pyra and Mythra s**tty w**res*
Excellent video, it was really fun to see the meh reaction to Pyra and Mythra turn so positive after the Sakurai Presents. Also, I 100% agree that we don't necessarily need the main character of a game as its Smash representative, often there are supporting characters who are both more interesting, and who have better designs than the main character. One correction tho: Xenoblade is WAY more popular in the West than in Japan, I think Xenoblade 2 got more than 85% of its sales outside of Japan. I assume the more positive Japanese initial reception to Pyra and Mythra had more to do with the Japanese being more appreciative of Anime Swordfighters in general.
Glad you liked the video Kriss! Agreed, I'd much rather see people go from meh to excited than gatekeep people that aren't fans of the series. Oh is it really? I could've sworn I saw that Xenoblade has higher sales in Japan but I may have misread it
They had to make sheik and Zelda 2 characters for the 3ds version
Oh wow I just googled that and you're right! I never knew that, thanks for the info :)
Because they're baes. XD
I still want Elma. Xenoblade could use a 3rd char.
Maybe in Smash 6, I don't think they'll add two Xenoblade characters as 2 of the last 3 DLC slots 😅
@@PowPowSmash let me dream 😂 but fr I would be so happy
@@Famitrack Xenoblade X did sell well in Japan so it's not likely.
I need to beat my friends with prya & mythra and they have sroa do u have a discord
Pyra and Mythra has been my main ever since they came to smash ultimate
Pneuma’s stage 4 blade special should’ve been a final smash
8:07 i really love the edit
Thank you!! It turned out way better than I was expecting lol
If there's gonna be another sword fighter, I think it could be a Dark Souls character.
I'm not a dark souls guy but that would be dope! Same with Dante or Monster Hunter but I think the ship has sailed on monster hunter getting a rep now
@@PowPowSmash yeah, monster hunter might be out of the running :/. Dante would be awesome though, I think it could definitely happen!
We need nightmare and a Soul caliber game for the Switch or Lylod Irving and a remaster of Tales of Symphonia
@@PJDAltamirus0425 those would be cool, but I'd much prefer Dark Souls. It was a massive breakout success, and one of if not the most influential new IP of the last decade. Sakurai even said he had played and enjoyed the first two games.
@@gnateb6048 Thanks to Castlevania in Smash, we don't need another franchise with dark and gloomy atmosphere. Besides Dark Souls doesn't sell well in Japan.
I'm sorry WHAT?!?! "There aren't many noticebale Nintendo character for the roster" that's BS man...here I can name you like 10 at the top of my mind
-Mach Rider
-Saki (sin and punishement)
-Akira Howard (astral chain)
-Captain Rainbow
-Medusa or hades (kid Ikarus)
- Aeon or elena from Pandora's Tower
-Isaac (golden Sun)
- Mona or any other Warioware rep
- King Hippo (punch out)
- the wrestler or Any rythm Heaven rep
So you see, there is lots of options and yes I'm aware that someof the ones I named are probably assist trophy or spirits but you get the point.
well aside from that I really like your thoughts on Pyra and Mythra...
Oh damn that's a solid list, I honestly forgot Isaac is a Nintendo character (too bad he's an assist trophy though 😭). Mach Rider could be a cool retro rep if done right for sure
Thank you! I like your pfp 😊 I'm almost done with my first watch of Evangelion!
3:31
*_FOUND A MATCHING OPINION_*
Greninja->Decidueye->Cinderace would've been the perfect Pokémon starter lineup 😭
Ah yes people love to complain about what they didn’t get in a game with over 80 characters and more than 60 aren’t sword. You are so right lol.
I will say I did see a lot of people get excited for pyra that had no clue about xenoblade because they looked cool and fun. I think they’ve been the most well received of the 1st party dlc. Even more than Min Min. People want to check the game out and it sold out in some countries after. Which is awesome.
People gotta chill... did I want Steve? No... Am I mad ... hell no ... it brought a bunch of new people to smash and any new character is just icing now.
Yeah Pyra and Mythra are by far the most well received 1st party DLC (the competition isn't great with Plant, Byleth and Min Min though lmao). I was definitely salty at first about Steve but I understood that he's a huge part of gaming history so he was a good addition to the roster...even if his playstyle is kinda degen haha
I can think of 4 gross reasons why.
They're both wonderful characters without those but yes they definitely won some people over because of them 😅
Jin Sakai for Smash
I think that we've had enough swordfighters for on DLC fighter pass 😅
:(
Another Idea that I would really love because of my childhood: The Ninja Turtles. Probably won‘t happen
I'll be honest. I do want lloyd irving in smash, but the chances of that are 25% likely. He's the only character that had a smash 4 mii costume that hasn't returned yet and I find his over extended reveal is suspicious
Oh I would be totally fine with him getting in but he worked too well for the joke at the end haha. I am getting tired of the amount of sword dlc characters but he would be a cool addition
Oh boy do I have some news for you.
@@Blue24675 You don't have to tell me I already know.
@@AutZentus I’m sorry for your loss
Byleth>Three house leaders
It's not too late to delete this
That's not the case, PowPow, both Pyra and Mythra are sooo easy to launch, that is, if you're a noob.
Their recoveries are definitely exploitable but like Smash 4 Cloud they're super good onstage
@@PowPowSmash Their recoveries are bad when it comes to off stage.
@@darthvader473 yes I was just talking about how good the character is onstage in general. Their recoveries are very exploitable offstage you are correct
great just what we need i anime sword guy
Sword GIRLS ☺️☺️☺️
@@PowPowSmash i feel so tempted to say simp
I mean, technically just swords lol
@@noobrebelion70 respecting women isn´t simping you stupid idiot
i PlAy gAmEs fOr tHe sToRy
That's me :)
@@PowPowSmash I played Xenoblade for the story fi you know what I mean ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
I'm so glad you liked this DLC addition since it wasn't a sonic character.
Again, some great writing there, my friend!
Thanks a lot Ninja! I'll always be a Sonic fan first, but there's still a lot of other franchises and characters I'd like to get in with Pyra being one of them actually :)
8:00 Terry also proves this point
How so? With Terry it was moreso indifference before and after his reveal from my perspective. He definitely deserves to be in the game due to his extensive history in fighting games, but Nintendo fans' lack of involvement in the fighting game scene definitely hurt the hype for him imo
@@PowPowSmash even if it was more indifference, the community still went from not being a huge fan of the inclusion to really liking it once Terry actually got into the game
Sakurai plz add Gral. Grevious with 8 swords to fight
LOL PLEASE NO
Shots at Luigi mains lmao
Deserved :)
Miitopia was a lit reveal
Definitely one of the best reveals but I didn't have a 3DS so I couldn't appreciate it as much as others 😭 about time they did something with Miis on the Switch though!
Great vod
Thanks Derrick! Appreciate it buddy ☺️
@@PowPowSmash you are very welcome
They did it with their amazing “personalities”
😳😳😳
If you play xenoblade 2 pyra has a personality
But mythra is just tsunedere
Play Torna and you’ll understand Mythra better...... the poor girl desperately needs counseling.
@@boas7742 you don't even need to play Torna to love Mythra; heart to hearts, story events etc make her one of my favourites
@@HollowPurple-if2co honestly she does have girl power the best one in the whole game so yeah I’ll give you that
Nice video dog! I like your narration. But nah fuck these characters, they deserved the hate they got.
Thanks Bigman! Like I said in the video I'm a fan of them but I totally get being tired of all of the anime sword fighters we've gotten as DLC 🤣
I love Xenoblade An1d Pyra is amazing As a character but my Gosh theyre fucking broken I HATE IT
Code geass is way better... 👌
I'm gonna watch it again soon, Code Geass is just too gooooood
@@PowPowSmash Try to watch the movies too! (I know the resurrection movie was fanservice but is always good to see lelouch again :) )
Spyro > Crash
I definitely agree that Spyro would have a better Smash moveset but in terms of being more iconic and having a bigger impact on gaming I'd have to give that to Crash
@@PowPowSmash
Crash would make a more exciting stage but the character itself is less interesting than Spyro. The games themselves also aged poorly in comparison.
You inow what? Code Geass IS better. (I havent watched GL yet)
LOL. I've watched at least 50 animes at this point and Code Geass is still in my top 5
The first half of GL is as good as advertised but the ending is pretty garbo imo
Cute anime waifus... Duh!!!
I love guren lagan by I do agree code geous is better lol 🤣
That's all that matters ;))))
They didnt lmao, I love Xenoblade But Damn I hate them in smash, Ok maybe hate is a bit too stromgof a word but Its not something I would wanna Get
No they didn't
The amount of people that went from being pissed to excited about their addition after seeing how well designed they are is really high, at least according to Smash Twitter lol
Booba