No comparison??? Holiday is a much better scorer who can shoot and score on all levels. Rondo had no j and was a liability at the free throw line. Give me Holiday, they are both great defenders, Rondo is the better passer but Holiday is a much more reliable scorer. Give me jrue holiday.
Agreed. People dont realize the superteam in Bos would have not worked if they didnt have a dawg of PG in Rondo..as much as I love Ray Allen i know hes a subpar defender, Rondo was a nightmare to all opposing guards
Exactly. Even national tv rondo was an inside joke amongst Celtics fans. These kids that actually think it’s a debate just weren’t there and probably have no idea he ACTUALLY went toe to toe with LeBron, put up 22-11-7 with 2 steals shooting 49% in 7 games with a 44 point game in there.
From a lifelong Westside Chicagoan I don't think Paul Pierce knows what a Vice Lord is. These guys should stop speaking on phrases they know NOTHING about!!
U mean overrated rondo. Jrue is a two way player an x factor to a team. Nola sweep Portland in the playoffs when he was there with Davis. CP3 can carry any team he went to, not rondo talking about a legit point guard
@@JayK995 Well they called it the big 3 Celtics with pierce, kg, and Ray Allen... Why can't it be a big 4 with rondo???? Rondo has been overlooked at times
@@MelachiDubNation2531it’s only because his first year with them he was only a 2nd year player. But by the time they had their last season he was clearly the best player on the team. He had a series where he was basically going to play for play with LeBron. Jrue could NEVER. This is a joke to even compare them. Only people that don’t remember would even consider it a debate. Rondo was HIM.
Jrue is a great combo guard like Joe Dumars. Rondo is one of the smartest players ever nd one of the best pgs. Both great, styles of play totally different. Not really comparable
Rondo basketball IQ was through the roof. It was just it was hard for him to get coaches and players to fully buy into him when he was young. He has to learn to gain the trust of peers in order for them to understand his game.
@jmgonzales7701 you need to Google 2012 Rajon Rondo. Rondo always cared about his team scoring above himself but he could score. Not to mention his signature fake pass layup. Rondo in the clutch was money. RUclips that man clutch plays
@@Master_WhiteLightening i know he could score. But him being a scorer was what was missing from him. There is a reason the scorers get the most attention.
@jmgonzales7701 Prolific scorer no. attention is over rated. If a person watch basketball they know what Rondo brings to the table. I'll take High IQ > scoring ability any day.
@@Master_WhiteLightening again this is not a knock on rondo. But there is a reason in the best debates its always about great scorers. Assist is just the icing
-- Pels w/ AD, Boogie, Jru, and Playoff Rondo could have been a thing. 2) For a guy who shot like Ben Simmons, he was fearless and elevated himself in the playoffs (unlike Simmons). Overall? Great discussion. I would lean towards Jru, biased, b/c he's 3 inches taller, stronger, and could score better w/ higher FT%. Rondo -- higher IQ, passing.
I got Rondo all day! But it’s crazy how Jrue BEEN balling since he came into the league and he’s just now getting his respect. If Jrue didn’t play in Milwaukee ppl would still be underrating him
The disrespect is real. Nothing against Holiday but Rondo was on something else at the highest level pretty much from day one. His leadership on the court with a bunch greats was something I hadn't seen in decades. Him an D.Rose in that Playoff series was amazing. Rondo's defence was solid.
Rondo was not only one the best defensive pgs…. he was always tops in assists!!! One of the best floor generals of his generation and one of most clutch in several different teams!!! Better than Holiday period!!!
Bro he is one of best floor generals of all time, not just his generation. If there was no injuries we would talk about rondo same as john stockton and jason kidd
Jrue way better defensively than Rondo, and a better shooter. Rondo is a better traditional point. How can you make an argument for Rondo being undoubtedly better? Other than just feelings and bias.
@@mattc5647they’re both really close in terms of how good they were. Jrue’s more versatile on offense and defense and Rondo is High IQ floor general. I’ll give Rondo the edge for now because of his next level IQ, but Jrue still has time to catch up maybe…
@@mattc5647both of you are making mistakes!! Rondo was a point guard so he was a better passer!! They play different positions!! Jrue is better overall player!!
So let me get this straight, Rondo = great Iq, nice finishing, ok shooting Jrue = nice iq and can't say he dont pass, nice finishing, great defense, great shooting??? Hmmm iq and finishing vs iq, finishing, defense, and shooting lol. Ps Rondo back in the day
He said edges Like they both are great and it’s a good comparison but hers just a little better Like saying MJ is better than Kobe but Kobe is still Kobe respectfully
@@TannerGoated not smoking crack. scoring is nice but as a point guard rondo does everything right..... Including making players more productive around him .. Rondo at his best and Jrue at his best and Rondo maybe at top ten PG all time....
even if that is true that he is taking his guy rondo was a better defender and passer and rebounder and had a bit of scoring to go with that then drue, drue wouldn't touch no one from that Kobe era. rondo over holiday all day and I'm not even a Celtics fan.
@@idkiguess69 and how many assists that season? 11.1 and 13.7, so let’s say comfortably those 11.1 assists helped with creating about 25 points, we will ignore the passes that led to fouls that led to points that don’t count as an assists, nor all the hockey assists. But he’s easily creating 39 points a game. That’s about over 6 points more a game created than Carmelo Anthony’s created in his prime averaging 26 and 3 assists. So you’re just a guy that’s struggling intellectually (probably a consistent issue in your life) to understand how math and reality and basketball seem to work. All good though, happy to educate my low iq friends.
One of the best is defined as how ? Dudes probably not even too 25 and you’re gonna define the 40ish something ranked PG of all time ? Dudes not even close to guys like Ja Steph Luka Kyrie Brunson Dame Trae etc in the league right now
@@caylinjohnson6453 ok so with Rondo… it’s like we know he couldn’t shoot but he had the confidence/ability to take and make timely clutch shots. I’ve seen Rondo in a Boston jersey hitting 3’s and off the dribble mid range shots. They were rare but he made them when it counted.
@@YaMada-2K I purposely chose not to list many of Rondo's accomplishments, too. For example, Rondo is also a 2× NBA champion. His championships were 12 years apart, which I think shows his longevity. There are a lot of great players without championships. Chris Paul has no championships, but I still rate him higher than both Rondo and Jrue. I also left out that Rondo was 2× NBA All-Defensive First Team and 2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team. Rondo never won an Olympic gold medal, but neither did Tim Duncan. I still rate Tim Duncan much higher than Jrue.
@@YaMada-2K I left out multiple things for Jrue and Rondo. They both have 2 rings and have multiple All-NBA Defensive Teams. Jrue never led the league in assists or steals. Rondo led the league in assists multiple times and led the league in steals once. Jrue has 2 gold medals, but I do not feel that makes him better than Rondo. Tim Duncan, Dirk, Giannis, Jokic, and plenty of other players do not have gold medals. I do not think Jrue is better than any of those players. I do not think he is better than Rondo either. I think Rondo was never on the Olympics team for certain reasons, similar to how Isiah Thomas was not was not on the Dream Team. Rondo seems like he has a bad reputation. He also has dealt with injuries.
Lol okay ? A 4x all star 4x all defensive 3x assist champ 2x nba champ 1x all nba 1x steal champ is not a HOF career He had a great career, not HOF worthy y’all cheapened it so much
@@idkiguess69 he got those numbers while being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude. What I’m trying to say is, had he focused on winning and left the bullshit aside, he will be in the Hall of Fame.
@@LBFufuEata seems like you’re giving extra points to a significantly worse player bc he had issues Meanwhile Jrue won 2 chips clears in basketball and is one of the best teammates and men in the nba so congratulations on not being emotional Rajon lmfao
@@TannerGoatedpassing the ball is offense buddy. In what world is Jrue even in Rondos league offensively? He led the league in assists like 4 times with over 11😂
@@adharris411don't worry I got em. Yall only saying he better cuz of the flashiest lets be real. Jrue had 3s rondo barly had em, Rondo had iq, but s did Jrue or nah just cuz he didn't give it to the person directly in they hands, well last time I check Jrue, Tatum and Brown got a ring in 2 years, how long did it take Rondo Garnet and Pierce to get 1?
there’s a defensive gap, a pretty wide one at that. because rondo was a really good defender, he was never elite like Jrue and if so he wasn’t consistently elite defensively
There’s nothing solid about using the language of gang members when you’re not a member. It would actually get you popped in the right/ wrong area’s…. Square
@@oxymoron9081 aye chill man. If you've ever watch any of KG's interviews or his podcast, he says "Lord" a lot just in his lingo. I'm only speaking towards their friendship and not on some gang shit. Relax man. It ain't that serious
Scoring avgs were similar Jrue is a better 3 point shooter, assists Rondo, on ball defender Jrue, playmaking Rondo. Both players were/are great players it all comes down the system you'd want to run
Rondo was a playmaker, a facilitator! He made shit happen offensively. Dru, is a Rodman type In a 1 and 2 body. He is a defensive monster. You can't compare the two.
Rondo was one of the leagues best playmakers of all time. Jrue doesn’t even really have playmaking in his bag Edit: since ppl can’t get over how I incorrectly spelled a player’s name who spells it in an unorthodox way. As if it has anything to do with the point.
@@matthewcrane5294 ok bro idc argue with yourself gramps. The spelling of his name has nothing to do with my point. Compare career assist between Rando and Jru when your done being a comment Karen and see what the actual facts are.
@@matthewcrane5294 ok bro idc argue with yourself gramps. The spelling of his name has nothing to do with my point. Compare career assist between Rando and Jru when your done being a comment Karen and see what the actual facts are.
Rondo was way more effective on offense because he got everyone involved and could finish at the rim If you can get 3 guys to score over just you scoring then you’re better on offense 🤦🏾
@@shannonkamal5401Bro you’re talking about passing and trying to compare that to individual offense. Knock it off. Rondo better passer obviously. But Jute is definitely better offensive player
@@MrChazb1987 individual offense doesn’t beat team offense no where in the world 😂😂🤦🏾 and furthermore rondo wasn’t a slouch as an individual scorer. Y’all need to check his resume when he had to carry that Celtics team against Miami
Rondo is one of the best PGs of all-time. Not only is Rondo one of the best rebounding GUARDS all-time, and could give you triple-doubles, he was one of the best defending guards ever.
@@majinhunna Rondo was like a playmaking quarterback on the offensive side of the court; and a goalie on the defensive side. Jrue Holiday, on the other hand, is an elite role playing point guard, like Tony Parker- a very vital part of the entire team's success- but he's super flexible, yet he only plays the supporting sidekick role as if he never wants to be a franchise player or super star. The big difference, in my opinion, is Rondo made sure to set the pace of the game- even with Boston's Big 3. And Jrue, definitely the guy you want on team, plays his part with 100% effort. There's just a different presence; different play style; and a different tone being set by these two elite point guards.
Jrue is a dawg. Great defender. Excellent addition to any team. Versatile. But Rondo’s IQ and vision was off the charts. One the game’s greatest minds and a PG of his generation
He did lmao ahah fax. My boy double P is from my hometown Los Angeles California (Inglewood). You know, the state where Marijuana is legal. So no doubt double P be getting BLAZE BLAZE on dat REAL Za Za bkz that's all we have back home lol. Fun fact. Approximately 80 to 90% of NBA players do smoke weed. marijuana. Even some of the GMs no bap ahha.. Once the players, Doctors, physical therapist etc came together & said that medicinal Marijuana is BENEFICIAL for players, & way BETTER than them using ALCOHOL, PILLS & or harder core drugs. That's why they have no problem with players smoking weed anymore. It's like the lesser of 2 evils. The league also saw that It wasn't necessarily a problem in terms of addiction & that effecting their play. What the owners & GMs came to find was not only was it therapeutic, beneficial health wise in terms of recovery, rest etc. It literally made them even BETTER players bkz they are going out their pre RELAXED like a mf ahah. I know me myself when I'm high I hoop like I played in the NBA fax no bap lol ijs
Rondo wasn't ever expected to do what he did tho. Almost fell out of the 1st rd. He led the League in Assists twice AFTER the Big 3 left and once again in 2015-16 Sacramento. NOBODY else can say they done that with the Kings. He made All Def Teams and was up for DPOY like 5 yrs in a row.
Crazy as hell. Jrue is better defensively and while he does not have the playmaking skills of rondo he does bring better athleticism, physicality, and offensive prowess. Rondo has never even averaged 15. Jrue has done that at least 7x over (without looking at the stats) and I remember Jrue averaging 20plus in NOLA
@@just-a-guy9857no way! you do know your comparing a PG and SG. So you using stats and term offense prowess to compare the two is kind of off. I give you credit on Jrue being more athletic (not by much though, as you can see in the video) and that's it. I think this is more recency bias then anything otherwise there's no way you'd think he better. Defensely they are equals and their all def selections prove that. But Rondo basketball IQ was 10x higher and he had a greater impact on actually winning. Rondo even has the better resume like more all star selection, led league assist like (if I recall) 3x, etc. Hell, if you put a prime Rondo on that Bucks team Giannis has more than one title. How this even a debate is crazy.
@@drkdze I can use those terms interchangeably because I’m comparing players as a whole and not by position. Speaking of which basketball is position less at this point. Harden as a SG has led the league in assists before. At the end of the day I’m comparing 2 guards
It depends on what team.Putting rondo on the Celtics now would kinda mess with their spacing because rondo struggled as a shooter and holiday gives them that extra spacing.(As we can see how efficient he was from the 3 in the finals.)
Rondo was a beast people forget he gave lebron and them problems. Dude is a true point gaurd its countless games wherr he was hurt still played injured and did work.
@@TheIcemanthomasrondo was the best player on the 2012 Celtics. He averaged 22-11-7 in their series against the Heat when they got eliminated. No one else on the team was putting up numbers like that by then.
@@northsidecjrondo was amazing but Jrue on the pelicans was a better peak gave u 20p 8assist didn’t turn the ball over much and could lock up your best perimeter player
That's a great comparison. Both have extremely high basketball IQs. I'll give Rondo a slight edge over Drew in that regards, I'll give Drew a slight edge defensively and offensively. Defensively a debate though
Offense- Jrue Defense- tie Passing- Rondo Shooting- Jrue Jrue was a beast in his younger days with Philly, I mean he’s still good now but those 76er day he was a problem. Rondo was really great with the Big 3 I think the more offensive mind he got it made it tougher for those Boston teams. Especially for Ray Allen. Jrue is better imo but not by that much.
The bucks didn’t win shit till he got there and the same goes for Boston he literally won first year on both teams and saying the lakers couldn’t have won with a different player in that spot is ridiculous
Both great. Rondo is the chess player point guard thinking steps ahead. At the same time Jrue does everything and can guard more positions. You can pick either way and you're not going wrong.
bro Rondo was my favorite player for a while because he got double doubles and triple double without the scoring. He was a true point guard and didn't need to score to highly impact the game and created so many plays and was a huge contribution to the wins
Drue is a beast. Rondo was a offensive and defensive floor general. Like that boy was a problem. I remember when he played with the Bulls back in 2017. They were about to sweep the Celtics. Rondo got hurt and Chicago became a completely different team. Didn't win another game
Rondo lead the league in steals and assist and a helluva rebounder for a PG. people sleep on Rondo because he was surrounded by Pierce Allen and KG Lebron and some big names. But he contribution was major in those championships.
Remember when Rondo and Jrue were BOTH on the Pelicans and created NIGHTMARES for Dame and CJ in the playoffs? Celebrate them both.
yea I also remember AD and Cousins getting injured man they were goin to the finals that year I swear
Lmfao they were never gonna beat the warriors
@@vic0343 wit ad and cousins the warriors would of had a hard time beating them
Rondo 2 championships
The Truth 1 championship
It’s a instrumental
They almost beat gsw with Kd Honestly Ill picked top 5 pg of all time
There’s no comparison, Rondo is one of few true point guards of his era.
Few? Deron Williams, CP3, Nash, Kidd, etc. stop making shit up
Give me Jrue over Rondo all day run it. Rondo was overrated!!
No comparison??? Holiday is a much better scorer who can shoot and score on all levels. Rondo had no j and was a liability at the free throw line. Give me Holiday, they are both great defenders, Rondo is the better passer but Holiday is a much more reliable scorer. Give me jrue holiday.
Rondo was ass!!!
Defense I'm going with Jrue
Without Rondo Celtics would've never won. People dont understand his impact. He was the glue. The offense would've looked ugly without Rondo.
Ty and Kobe & Lakers would of got 6 rings
Not true, 08 Rondo wasn’t doing too much but by 10 the Celtics wouldn’t have been as close to winning without him.
One year passing it to some of the greatest offensive players
Agreed. People dont realize the superteam in Bos would have not worked if they didnt have a dawg of PG in Rondo..as much as I love Ray Allen i know hes a subpar defender, Rondo was a nightmare to all opposing guards
@@zethjugos1250 for one year😂😂😂😂
Rondo has one of the highest basketball IQs
No lie!
No he didn’t!!
Having a high IQ doesn't make you physically able to do things you can't athletically. Jrues way better than Rondo sorry
@gradyjackson8517 I didn't say Rondo was better.
@nbasizzlereels5315 Shit I'ma say it then kuz Jrue is good but he can't do what Rondo does as far as being the floor general
Playoff Rondo WAS a real thing!!
Exactly. Even national tv rondo was an inside joke amongst Celtics fans. These kids that actually think it’s a debate just weren’t there and probably have no idea he ACTUALLY went toe to toe with LeBron, put up 22-11-7 with 2 steals shooting 49% in 7 games with a 44 point game in there.
“But Jrue is a two way player” rondo is 4 times all defense. Stop. Lol
Dropping trip dubs with crazy assist numbers 😂😂😂
@@StonerStories idk if anyone this century put up 15 assists more casually lol maybe just he and Nash.
@@michaelturley8222 miss watching him play at that level
Damn KG got Paul out here using Chicago slang. " You ain't watching the game lord" 😂😂😂😂
Neither are from Chicago.
From a lifelong Westside Chicagoan I don't think Paul Pierce knows what a Vice Lord is. These guys should stop speaking on phrases they know NOTHING about!!
Coming from the Chi. That is some Chi-Town slang.
These are King James Version slang🎉
KG moved to Chicago as a teen to play ball. His best friend was a VL and they always protected and accepted KG. Do y'all research🤷🏾♂️
Rondo is an elite point gaurd, criminally underrated
U mean overrated rondo. Jrue is a two way player an x factor to a team. Nola sweep Portland in the playoffs when he was there with Davis. CP3 can carry any team he went to, not rondo talking about a legit point guard
Will you also got to think of the same time rondo is underrated
CRIMINALLY 🗣️
@@JayK995 Well they called it the big 3 Celtics with pierce, kg, and Ray Allen... Why can't it be a big 4 with rondo???? Rondo has been overlooked at times
@@MelachiDubNation2531it’s only because his first year with them he was only a 2nd year player. But by the time they had their last season he was clearly the best player on the team. He had a series where he was basically going to play for play with LeBron. Jrue could NEVER. This is a joke to even compare them. Only people that don’t remember would even consider it a debate. Rondo was HIM.
Lakers wouldn't have won the 2020 championship without Rondo and Celtics Rondo was one of the best players in the league
I always say that. If it wasn’t for Rondo and Dwight Lakers would have lost for sure.
Jrue is just as impactful on both of his championship runs
Jrue is a great combo guard like Joe Dumars. Rondo is one of the smartest players ever nd one of the best pgs. Both great, styles of play totally different. Not really comparable
@@curtiszyr but his game ain’t on rondo level, rondo has handles, footwork, layup package, tear drop game, defense, and dropping dimes
U can say the same with Jrue on the bucks and Boston
Rondo basketball IQ was through the roof. It was just it was hard for him to get coaches and players to fully buy into him when he was young. He has to learn to gain the trust of peers in order for them to understand his game.
Lord forgive him. He just don't know how truly great Rajon Rondo was
only thing missing was scoring
@jmgonzales7701 you need to Google 2012 Rajon Rondo. Rondo always cared about his team scoring above himself but he could score. Not to mention his signature fake pass layup. Rondo in the clutch was money. RUclips that man clutch plays
@@Master_WhiteLightening i know he could score. But him being a scorer was what was missing from him. There is a reason the scorers get the most attention.
@jmgonzales7701
Prolific scorer no. attention is over rated. If a person watch basketball they know what Rondo brings to the table. I'll take High IQ > scoring ability any day.
@@Master_WhiteLightening again this is not a knock on rondo. But there is a reason in the best debates its always about great scorers. Assist is just the icing
Rondo is so slept on shit crazy
Not really. He's going to the Hall of Fame.
Slept on by whom? All the casual fans you listen to? His name is synonymous with pure PGs among anybody who is aware of 2000s basketball.
He's not slept on. Jrue is a better defender hands down. Rondo was just different offensively
-- Pels w/ AD, Boogie, Jru, and Playoff Rondo could have been a thing.
2) For a guy who shot like Ben Simmons, he was fearless and elevated himself in the playoffs (unlike Simmons).
Overall? Great discussion. I would lean towards Jru, biased, b/c he's 3 inches taller, stronger, and could score better w/ higher FT%. Rondo -- higher IQ, passing.
I got Rondo all day! But it’s crazy how Jrue BEEN balling since he came into the league and he’s just now getting his respect. If Jrue didn’t play in Milwaukee ppl would still be underrating him
U ain't never lied 💯
The disrespect is real. Nothing against Holiday but Rondo was on something else at the highest level pretty much from day one. His leadership on the court with a bunch greats was something I hadn't seen in decades. Him an D.Rose in that Playoff series was amazing. Rondo's defence was solid.
Well said! To have the BIG 3 in Boston and run that team to perfection as the starting PG….a young starting PG?! Wow 👏👏👏
Facts. Idk why this even a debate. No disrespect to jrue at all...but rondo was a dog
Who's leadership?? Rondo lmaoo, bro barley even talked what you mean?
@@trellmills2963and bro u can be a dog dont mean that makes you win, I'll rather be a ultimate role player then be a mvp anyday
Jrue can only dream a stat line of Rondo.
Let's leave that as that.
Rondo was not only one the best defensive pgs…. he was always tops in assists!!! One of the best floor generals of his generation and one of most clutch in several different teams!!! Better than Holiday period!!!
Bro he is one of best floor generals of all time, not just his generation. If there was no injuries we would talk about rondo same as john stockton and jason kidd
Jrue way better defensively than Rondo, and a better shooter. Rondo is a better traditional point. How can you make an argument for Rondo being undoubtedly better? Other than just feelings and bias.
@@mattc5647they’re both really close in terms of how good they were. Jrue’s more versatile on offense and defense and Rondo is High IQ floor general. I’ll give Rondo the edge for now because of his next level IQ, but Jrue still has time to catch up maybe…
@@mattc5647both of you are making mistakes!! Rondo was a point guard so he was a better passer!! They play different positions!! Jrue is better overall player!!
So let me get this straight, Rondo = great Iq, nice finishing, ok shooting Jrue = nice iq and can't say he dont pass, nice finishing, great defense, great shooting??? Hmmm iq and finishing vs iq, finishing, defense, and shooting lol. Ps Rondo back in the day
Rondo edges jrue is a crazy statement to make so casually.😂
Ong😂
Yea cause it aint edgin when you miles above em
He said edges
Like they both are great and it’s a good comparison but hers just a little better
Like saying MJ is better than Kobe but Kobe is still Kobe respectfully
Y’all don’t be getting the joke bruh
Absolutely gooning on him 😂😂😂
Respect to Jrue I'm taking Rondo
U smoking crack 😂 Jrue better offense he can get u 20 pts and great defense. Rondo can’t shoot
@@TannerGoatedrondo gon CREATE more points which is what a pg does. I’d rather have 9 points 12 assists than 16 points and 6 assists
@@TannerGoated not smoking crack. scoring is nice but as a point guard rondo does everything right..... Including making players more productive around him .. Rondo at his best and Jrue at his best and Rondo maybe at top ten PG all time....
@@jedaiahisrael5882 rondo is not top 10 wtf 😂😂😂
@@TannerGoated top ten point guard on his best day absolutely.....
PP is loyal AF so he’s always gonna take his guys
In this case, he's not wrong, though
He's right though
Facts but I gotta agree with him on this one! You’re right though! 🤣
even if that is true that he is taking his guy rondo was a better defender and passer and rebounder and had a bit of scoring to go with that then drue, drue wouldn't touch no one from that Kobe era. rondo over holiday all day and I'm not even a Celtics fan.
He's right, if you think prime rondo isn't better you didn't watch him
Jrue for longevity
Rondo for PEAK/Prime
Good to see Rondo getting the love he deserves in this thread. So fun to watch that man play the game.
Cuz casuals love watching highlights not actual games
@@NotAnAstronaut2k😂 says the casual (or 20 year old) that CLEARLY didn’t watch Rondo’s prime and has just read his stat sheet or some BS.
@@NotAnAstronaut2kanyone who watched he and Jrue primes knows this is laughable.
@@michaelturley8222rondos career high is 13, dude plays defense and runs the offense
Plenty of guys do that rondo is beyond overrated
@@idkiguess69 and how many assists that season? 11.1 and 13.7, so let’s say comfortably those 11.1 assists helped with creating about 25 points, we will ignore the passes that led to fouls that led to points that don’t count as an assists, nor all the hockey assists. But he’s easily creating 39 points a game. That’s about over 6 points more a game created than Carmelo Anthony’s created in his prime averaging 26 and 3 assists. So you’re just a guy that’s struggling intellectually (probably a consistent issue in your life) to understand how math and reality and basketball seem to work. All good though, happy to educate my low iq friends.
Man Rondo is a Monster. Bro u tripping. Rondo is one of the best and arguably the smartest pg ever
you need to be tested. Smartest PG ever...?
One of the best is defined as how ? Dudes probably not even too 25 and you’re gonna define the 40ish something ranked PG of all time ? Dudes not even close to guys like Ja Steph Luka Kyrie Brunson Dame Trae etc in the league right now
@@idkiguess69 21-22 eh...? ok then
@@georgemarco11 not 21-22 try again
That one ACL tear Rondo had in the playoffs against the Hawk really ruined his run. He was on FIREE
ACL tear but you right
@@GoldNTrak oh yea mb
bro was getting 16 pts 16 ast 15 rebounds like clockwork
Jrue tore his acl 2
KG got Paul calling people lord!!😂
I was about to say when Paul start claiming VL? 😂
@@iClashAlways 😂 exactly.
Right, Paul don't know anything about lord.🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Lloyd is what they’re saying I’m pretty sure that’s his nickname
Paul was a Crip
Rondo pull up game so underrated just wasn’t hitting 3 like tht till tht laker run
And Jrue always had a 3 in his bag
@@joshuanixon382 I passed this comment several times he’s a horrible pull up shooter literally the worst part of his game
That was the one flaw in his game. If he had a consistent jumper. He may have been a top 5 pg all time.
@@natelewis3166 free throws are also a problem
@@caylinjohnson6453 ok so with Rondo… it’s like we know he couldn’t shoot but he had the confidence/ability to take and make timely clutch shots. I’ve seen Rondo in a Boston jersey hitting 3’s and off the dribble mid range shots.
They were rare but he made them when it counted.
It is truly beautiful to see all these people that truly understand basketball.
Anybody who doesn't realize how good Rondo was those first few years, even his first year
This actually is a good comparison even tho their games are different. The IQ and Leadership they carry means a lot to any team
Rondo was a 3× NBA assists leader, 1× NBA steals leader, 1× All-NBA Third Team, and 4× NBA All-Star. Jrue is a 2× NBA All-Star.
Jrue also 6 time All-Defense 3 times first team 2x NBA champion within 5 years and 2x Gold Medalist
@@YaMada-2K I purposely chose not to list many of Rondo's accomplishments, too. For example, Rondo is also a 2× NBA champion. His championships were 12 years apart, which I think shows his longevity. There are a lot of great players without championships. Chris Paul has no championships, but I still rate him higher than both Rondo and Jrue.
I also left out that Rondo was 2× NBA All-Defensive First Team and
2× NBA All-Defensive Second Team. Rondo never won an Olympic gold medal, but neither did Tim Duncan. I still rate Tim Duncan much higher than Jrue.
@@RonnieM90 You also left out Jrue Holiday’s entire resume to make it seem like they’re not on the same level
@@YaMada-2K I left out multiple things for Jrue and Rondo. They both have 2 rings and have multiple All-NBA Defensive Teams. Jrue never led the league in assists or steals. Rondo led the league in assists multiple times and led the league in steals once.
Jrue has 2 gold medals, but I do not feel that makes him better than Rondo. Tim Duncan, Dirk, Giannis, Jokic, and plenty of other players do not have gold medals. I do not think Jrue is better than any of those players. I do not think he is better than Rondo either. I think Rondo was never on the Olympics team for certain reasons, similar to how Isiah Thomas was not was not on the Dream Team. Rondo seems like he has a bad reputation. He also has dealt with injuries.
Rondo supposed to be in the Hall of Fame.
He stayed true to himself and he didn’t change for any organization.
I mean that was for the worst for most of his career. It worked out for him eventually. But between 2012 and 2018, rondo seemed like a lost cause.
@@TheIcemanthomas you’re absolutely right
. I don’t know what was wrong.
After Dallas, I knew he was going to be blackballed out of the Hall of Fame
Lol okay ? A 4x all star 4x all defensive 3x assist champ 2x nba champ 1x all nba 1x steal champ is not a HOF career
He had a great career, not HOF worthy y’all cheapened it so much
@@idkiguess69 he got those numbers while being a bad teammate and having a poor attitude.
What I’m trying to say is, had he focused on winning and left the bullshit aside, he will be in the Hall of Fame.
@@LBFufuEata seems like you’re giving extra points to a significantly worse player bc he had issues
Meanwhile Jrue won 2 chips clears in basketball and is one of the best teammates and men in the nba
so congratulations on not being emotional Rajon lmfao
Rondo 💯
can rondo edge me, he he he haw
Rondo always played well within himself, which is exactly what you want from a pg who's surrounded by stars and scorers.
@@uncletony6210 no, you want a pg who plays well with the team
@@CarterJackson-e7r As did Rondo.
@@uncletony6210 do you mean rondo did, not saying he didnt, i am just confused with the way you worded it
Kids today know NOTHING about prime Rondo.
Pierce Vice Lord Now ⭐️😂 KG got him saying Lord
Yeah man😂
He cvl nah😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
Everyday is a HOLIDAY
HOLIDAAAAAAY!!! Another motherphukin dollar day.
Rondo was cold drew is too...both great defenders
A 6’4 Rondo would’ve been scary tho!
Not really, would’ve been the same guy who can’t shoot 3s or a mid range shot
Couldn’t finish it’s not like he’s some extreme athlete
KG got pierce saying lord 🔥🔥🔥🔥
I peeped that too😂😂
I thought they both where VLs...
@@LiveFreeorDieTryinGhell nah pp from ingelwood aint no gd bd cobras or vicelords in la thats a mid west thing
@@LiveFreeorDieTryinG Pierce a blood or crip or something he from cali
Pierce got ties to the NHPs in Inglewood.
“Rondo edges Jrue.” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣 I don’t use pause at all but that’s absolutely a pause moment.
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rondo no question
When drue wins three more rings then I'll take Drue
I’m tryna tell y’all Kg turned Paul into a vice lord 😂😂😂😂
i fw both of them, both hella nice and add a lot to any team
Rondo is a borderline Hall of Famer...
Should be a hall of famer, but jrue possibly will make it too.
BORDER LINE!!🤯🤦🏿♂️🤦🏿♂️
lol that man is a HOF
lol, Rondo has got his votes he’ll be in this year.🤣🤣💯💯💯
He’s clear hof
Speaking as a Heat fan, I've never feared a true PG more than I feared Rondo. I feared him more than Paul Pierce and even KG.
Dont get me wrong, I love Jrue... But this guy wasn't even watching Rondo's games....This is criminal to disrespect this man legacy like that...smh
Ronda is one of the best defensive pg to ever play and the best true point guard a well. The only thing jrue is better at is his 3 point shot
Better defender by far
Why is this comparison even being made...Rondo Is way ahead of him...arm spand and hand size ridiculous. man get on b4 ya get spit on!
Nope Jrue is way better on offense rondo better play maker
@@TannerGoatedpassing the ball is offense buddy. In what world is Jrue even in Rondos league offensively? He led the league in assists like 4 times with over 11😂
@@TannerGoateddon’t ever speak basketball after that comment. Lawd 😂😂
@@adharris411don't worry I got em. Yall only saying he better cuz of the flashiest lets be real. Jrue had 3s rondo barly had em, Rondo had iq, but s did Jrue or nah just cuz he didn't give it to the person directly in they hands, well last time I check Jrue, Tatum and Brown got a ring in 2 years, how long did it take Rondo Garnet and Pierce to get 1?
@@majinhunnain his second year in the league. wtf are we talking about 😂 it was literally stated in the video🤦🏿♂️
Two talents from two different generations, let’s be grateful for this moment in time to have witnessed such greatness at the point guard positions!!!
Rondo and holiday,played with cousin's and Davis in new Orleans and that squad was crazy
If boogie stayed healthy I swear it was a CHIP that year. He has a few 40 20 games before the Achilles snapped
@@Reeferalrelax. They weren’t winning no chip. U realize they played gsw in the second round right? Lol
@@TheIcemanthomas healthy they had the tools to matchup. Sure Steph and KD Would get theirs but who was stopping AD and Boogie inside?
Rando was dangerous with a little agility on the counter in that Boston days
I see you with the Tatums 🔥🔥
Prime Rondo all day, he was right next to CP3 as best PG in the league
I always thought Ronda was way better especially ina clutch moments, Cp3 had a better jumper
Couldn't shoot
Rondo developed a shot and always one of the best passers in the league
It Was CP3 & Dwill
@@doeboyviaphillylol rondo was not way better
Yea he getting in his feelings rondo is better , on par defensively nd scoring the deciding factor is rondo passing factor & iq exceeds jrue
Their passing gap isn’t as huge as the shooting gap
@@zod548yes it is if you know basketball
@@zod548😂
there’s a defensive gap, a pretty wide one at that. because rondo was a really good defender, he was never elite like Jrue and if so he wasn’t consistently elite defensively
@@ThaTruth223 Jrue is the better defender due to him being more.versatile thanks to his size and strength
I’m bias towards rondo but seeing jrue lock up Booker for a whole 2nd half to win a ring is vicious work
Hearing Pierce say "Lord" tells you his connection to KG is solid
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There’s nothing solid about using the language of gang members when you’re not a member. It would actually get you popped in the right/ wrong area’s…. Square
@@oxymoron9081 aye chill man. If you've ever watch any of KG's interviews or his podcast, he says "Lord" a lot just in his lingo. I'm only speaking towards their friendship and not on some gang shit. Relax man. It ain't that serious
@@oxymoron9081hey it might be some CVLs in Inglewood lol
@@oxymoron9081But Kendrick Lamar Can?
Drew is more fierce. Rondo is way smarter.
Who is Drew lmaoooooo
@@dangerwhite697Drew P. Balls
*Jrue
How do you know?
Drew wins with D and jump shot
Rondo wins with his passing only
Nah that prime Rondo was nasty. Had top tier defense and playmaking and could score when he needed to. He knew his role and played it perfectly.
Paul is from LA talk’n about “Lord”. 😂
Man is hanging out with KG too much 🤣🤣
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Scoring avgs were similar Jrue is a better 3 point shooter, assists Rondo, on ball defender Jrue, playmaking Rondo. Both players were/are great players it all comes down the system you'd want to run
How is Rondo a better playmaker when he's not a better scorer?
@@LinEll22_😂
Rondo was a playmaker, a facilitator! He made shit happen offensively. Dru, is a Rodman type In a 1 and 2 body. He is a defensive monster. You can't compare the two.
Rondo was one of the leagues best playmakers of all time. Jrue doesn’t even really have playmaking in his bag
Edit: since ppl can’t get over how I incorrectly spelled a player’s name who spells it in an unorthodox way. As if it has anything to do with the point.
The fact that you said “Drew” tells us all we need to know about your bball knowledge.
@@matthewcrane5294 I meant Jru obviously. But I’d rather make that mistake than saying bball instead of hoop which is far more egregious
@@fastguna650 not even close. One is factually wrong and the other is just your stupid preference. Nice cope though.
@@matthewcrane5294 ok bro idc argue with yourself gramps. The spelling of his name has nothing to do with my point. Compare career assist between Rando and Jru when your done being a comment Karen and see what the actual facts are.
@@matthewcrane5294 ok bro idc argue with yourself gramps. The spelling of his name has nothing to do with my point. Compare career assist between Rando and Jru when your done being a comment Karen and see what the actual facts are.
They both dogs defensively I think Rondo a better passer but Holiday better offensively
Rondo was way more effective on offense because he got everyone involved and could finish at the rim
If you can get 3 guys to score over just you scoring then you’re better on offense 🤦🏾
@@shannonkamal5401Bro you’re talking about passing and trying to compare that to individual offense. Knock it off. Rondo better passer obviously. But Jute is definitely better offensive player
@@shannonkamal54013 hall of famers lol. Anyone could pass to them a get a bunch of assists, especially if you’re not a good scorer
@@andreacorhetta4487 until it’s time for you to do it and you find out you can’t! 😂 It’s always easy watching 🤷🏾
@@MrChazb1987 individual offense doesn’t beat team offense no where in the world 😂😂🤦🏾 and furthermore rondo wasn’t a slouch as an individual scorer.
Y’all need to check his resume when he had to carry that Celtics team against Miami
Rondo is one of the best PGs of all-time. Not only is Rondo one of the best rebounding GUARDS all-time, and could give you triple-doubles, he was one of the best defending guards ever.
Paul saying Lord funny ASF 🤣
Hell yeah. Paul is definitely not one of the guys!
I would not ever thought to compare those two.
Well who would you say
@@majinhunna Rondo was like a playmaking quarterback on the offensive side of the court; and a goalie on the defensive side.
Jrue Holiday, on the other hand, is an elite role playing point guard, like Tony Parker- a very vital part of the entire team's success- but he's super flexible, yet he only plays the supporting sidekick role as if he never wants to be a franchise player or super star.
The big difference, in my opinion, is Rondo made sure to set the pace of the game- even with Boston's Big 3.
And Jrue, definitely the guy you want on team, plays his part with 100% effort.
There's just a different presence; different play style; and a different tone being set by these two elite point guards.
@@nodozhit Thats the best description on here!👏👏👏
Jrue is a dawg. Great defender. Excellent addition to any team. Versatile.
But Rondo’s IQ and vision was off the charts. One the game’s greatest minds and a PG of his generation
Bro no comparison for me. Rondo is head over heels better cause of his IQ.
Pierce talking like he just came from a joint session 😂
He's talking that 5 shit because of KG
He did lmao ahah fax. My boy double P is from my hometown Los Angeles California (Inglewood). You know, the state where Marijuana is legal. So no doubt double P be getting BLAZE BLAZE on dat REAL Za Za bkz that's all we have back home lol.
Fun fact. Approximately 80 to 90% of NBA players do smoke weed. marijuana. Even some of the GMs no bap ahha..
Once the players, Doctors, physical therapist etc came together & said that medicinal Marijuana is BENEFICIAL for players, & way BETTER than them using ALCOHOL, PILLS & or harder core drugs.
That's why they have no problem with players smoking weed anymore. It's like the lesser of 2 evils. The league also saw that It wasn't necessarily a problem in terms of addiction & that effecting their play.
What the owners & GMs came to find was not only was it therapeutic, beneficial health wise in terms of recovery, rest etc. It literally made them even BETTER players bkz they are going out their pre RELAXED like a mf ahah.
I know me myself when I'm high I hoop like I played in the NBA fax no bap lol ijs
@@pcapone4703Whatchu mean
@@flashman4929 KG's a Vice Lord. If you don't who they are, jus google them
@@flashman4929he said lord and Lord is VLN im in Chicago and I caught that too lol 😂
Jrue over Rondo. Rondo played with HOFers and did what he was supposed to. No pressure was on Rondo.
Rondo wasn't ever expected to do what he did tho. Almost fell out of the 1st rd. He led the League in Assists twice AFTER the Big 3 left and once again in 2015-16 Sacramento. NOBODY else can say they done that with the Kings. He made All Def Teams and was up for DPOY like 5 yrs in a row.
a prime rondo for jrue holiday would definitely be an upgrade
Crazy as hell. Jrue is better defensively and while he does not have the playmaking skills of rondo he does bring better athleticism, physicality, and offensive prowess. Rondo has never even averaged 15. Jrue has done that at least 7x over (without looking at the stats) and I remember Jrue averaging 20plus in NOLA
@@just-a-guy9857no way! you do know your comparing a PG and SG. So you using stats and term offense prowess to compare the two is kind of off. I give you credit on Jrue being more athletic (not by much though, as you can see in the video) and that's it. I think this is more recency bias then anything otherwise there's no way you'd think he better. Defensely they are equals and their all def selections prove that. But Rondo basketball IQ was 10x higher and he had a greater impact on actually winning. Rondo even has the better resume like more all star selection, led league assist like (if I recall) 3x, etc. Hell, if you put a prime Rondo on that Bucks team Giannis has more than one title. How this even a debate is crazy.
@@drkdzejrue holiday is a point guard
@@drkdze I can use those terms interchangeably because I’m comparing players as a whole and not by position. Speaking of which basketball is position less at this point. Harden as a SG has led the league in assists before. At the end of the day I’m comparing 2 guards
It depends on what team.Putting rondo on the Celtics now would kinda mess with their spacing because rondo struggled as a shooter and holiday gives them that extra spacing.(As we can see how efficient he was from the 3 in the finals.)
Rondo bruvvvvv and that assist to ray is one of if not his best pass
Forreal! Pass was 🎯
When Rando played with Bulls he was vey impactful to that team!
Jrue the only player to completely lock up Kyrie all the time. I got Jrue.
Jrue frfr
Y'all didn't watch Rondo then
@@cuda8833 💯
@@nickf2657 Jrue Won 2 rings with way less talent. Proof is in the pudding.
@jaymack6864 less talent? Giannis would run down the entire 2008 boston squad by himself and you say jrue had less talent?
The conversation is a testament to recency bias
I love Rondo and Jrue . I take Jrue even though it's a tough decision
Nobody talking bout how Pierce said "Rondo edges Jrue"?😂
@Pancakes_1V1 We talking about Rondo🏀🏀🏆! R u old enough to remember prime Rondo?
@@hak3739 I do.
@@Pancakes_1V1 I guess u got Jrue?
@@hak3739 Rondo was a good player, but I got Jrue only by a bit
@Pancakes_1V1 Your opinion, Rondo literally went worldwide at one point, don't mess with Rondo kid, you gotta go school tomorrow
Prime rondo was a Masterpiece.
Rondo is one of the best true PGs. Jrue is one of the best perimeter defenders. They both deserve a lot of credit.
I think I'd take Rondo too even though I love Drew, watch tape! 🤔🤔🤔🫡9️⃣
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If you love him, learn to spell JRUE
Prime rondo is better than any jrue
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You buggin, prime rondo couldn't even shoot over 15 feet.
Foreal
@rootofallevi And he impacted the game on every level from the pg position
Rondo was a beast people forget he gave lebron and them problems. Dude is a true point gaurd its countless games wherr he was hurt still played injured and did work.
Rondo was like the Peyton Manning of basketball
Peyton was the best player on his teams
IQ @@TheIcemanthomas
@@SilverID-k9unaw he was good but not Payton level good.
@@TheIcemanthomasrondo was the best player on the 2012 Celtics. He averaged 22-11-7 in their series against the Heat when they got eliminated. No one else on the team was putting up numbers like that by then.
Peyton won like 5 mvps, rondos career high is 13 ppg
No he isn’t
"Rondo edges Jrue?" is insane.😂
Was looking for this shi 😂
this that one for me
Y’all brains are fucked
Rondo was better than Jrue. Just because you were too young to watch him in his prime, doesn’t mean it ain’t true.
@@northsidecjrondo was amazing but Jrue on the pelicans was a better peak gave u 20p 8assist didn’t turn the ball over much and could lock up your best perimeter player
That's a great comparison. Both have extremely high basketball IQs. I'll give Rondo a slight edge over Drew in that regards, I'll give Drew a slight edge defensively and offensively. Defensively a debate though
Both underrated.. love Rondo but give me Jrue, better scorer if called upon
Rondo was serious, that's a hard match up
Forreal!
Offense- Jrue
Defense- tie
Passing- Rondo
Shooting- Jrue
Jrue was a beast in his younger days with Philly, I mean he’s still good now but those 76er day he was a problem.
Rondo was really great with the Big 3 I think the more offensive mind he got it made it tougher for those Boston teams. Especially for Ray Allen.
Jrue is better imo but not by that much.
I know the championship teams jrue was on could have won without him, but the Rondo championship teams ain't winning without him
The bucks didn’t win shit till he got there and the same goes for Boston he literally won first year on both teams and saying the lakers couldn’t have won with a different player in that spot is ridiculous
Idk the Celtics was struggling until he pulled up.
@@pabloc4771struggling with what. Replace Jrue with smart they still win a ring. Porzingis and the easy rode is why they won
@@Alex-wz9zebro they went to finals with smart as DPOY and he got torched by Curry. Stop it. Drew was the difference maker
Jrue was necessary for Bucks chip
Rondo was that dude, he was something special to watch, he really did help the Lakers win that chip 💯🥃
Great comparison. Both steady with the rock, both great defenders, both have crazy IQ. Both great Leaders. You are in great shape with either.
Rondo is the better player, but Jrue is the better defender.
I'm taking Drew over Rondo
Both great. Rondo is the chess player point guard thinking steps ahead. At the same time Jrue does everything and can guard more positions. You can pick either way and you're not going wrong.
RONDO IS NOT A BETTER DEFENDER!!! I'M SORRY
Uhm check whos got more All Def Teams. Ppl not realizing Rondo is a top 3 best defensive PG of all time.
@thaddeusodonnell3986 true but holiday can guard alot of position
“Rondo edges Jrue” wtf dawg😭😭😭
bro Rondo was my favorite player for a while because he got double doubles and triple double without the scoring. He was a true point guard and didn't need to score to highly impact the game and created so many plays and was a huge contribution to the wins
Bruh just said he didn’t watch the games he doesn’t know 😂
They each bring something unique. I’m still taking Jrue… he’s more all around
Rondo does Edge him , holiday is a defender and tough scorer but rondo knows how to run offenses with the eye of an eagle 🦅
Drue is a beast. Rondo was a offensive and defensive floor general. Like that boy was a problem. I remember when he played with the Bulls back in 2017. They were about to sweep the Celtics. Rondo got hurt and Chicago became a completely different team. Didn't win another game
Rondo lead the league in steals and assist and a helluva rebounder for a PG. people sleep on Rondo because he was surrounded by Pierce Allen and KG Lebron and some big names. But he contribution was major in those championships.
Rondo is a top playmaker and what he did behind the scenes with is iq is incomparable
Rondo was a beast