Carrier Flying A Royal Navy Instructional Film (1946)
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- This is one of 3 WW2 instructional films available on DVD
RN12 Forties Navy - Flying Machines
The Royal Navy's flying capabilities developed rapidly during World War Two. This programme reflects the development by way of three Royal Navy training films from the film archives of the Imperial War Museum.Catapult Ships (1940), Deck Landing (1942), Carrier Flying (1946)Black and White 76 mins
"Fantastic" Flypast September 2005
"A high quality, educative programme totally devoid of gimmicks" Aircraft Illustrated August 2005
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These films are absolutely bloody brilliant! They are as much about social history as military history. The whole film is so engaging in so many different ways. What a different world it was. Thanks SO much for the upload!
For further reading see 'Wings on My Sleeve' by Captain Eric "Winkle" Brown RN. Think it may have been him landing the Vampire and Mosquito in this video. He holds the record for carrier landings and most aircraft types flown. One of his jobs in WWII was to test and write procedure for new aircraft when landing on carriers!
Just read it great stuff.
YES and i have met him in ww2 when he Landed on my ship in H.M.S, INDEFATIGABLE
Fantastic video! I am actually amazed at how advanced technology was 75 years ago.
It's bonkers seeing things like the Vampire on a carrier deck only 4 years after a film predominantly about Swordfish operations.
The War accelerated technology big time.
Admiravel the effort of the old heroes of the aviation in the development of techniques for the perfect use and control of the aircraft in their various situations of difficulty of landing or takeoff. A lesson of determination for the development of these techniques to be perfected in the future! They deserve our respect and admiration and thanks!
I'm starting to get it! Great instructional value and well done. Calm and clear. Respect.
Not only brilliant flying, but a great english lesson to boot!
Never mind that straightforward deck landing malarkey, it's getting the received pronunciation just right... 😉
Some kids at my school took 'elocution lesson' to learn to speak like that.
Thank you. The Naval Aviation Videos Are Outstanding.
2:41 "Bloody Fool" ….Hey, I just learned lip reading!!
Very informative instructional film. Thanks for this.
Young Sub-Lt Wilson did it again and soon became Able Seaman Wilson assigned to boiler cleaning duties.
No, he changed his name to Philips and became a Navigator...
You couldn't get an aircraft more difficult to land on a carrier than a Corsair. So difficult that the USN gave up on it until the Fleet Air Arm
came up with a way to do it safely.
@Tabourba They clipped the wings because the British carriers were smaller than the USN's . To fit in the the hanger with the wings folded.
@Tabourba Oleo bounce was an issue as well, the RN cured that.
@@steveb6103 yes that the reason for the clip wing the result of them is what Tabourba said
The abundance of Hellcats had much to do with the this decision. The British didn't have that luxury.
Corsairs here are most likely the Brewster manufactured Mk.III's that were given to the FAA, around 334 total.
Yes, they are. The Corsair marked "E-3U" that is seen practicing landing at the shore base around 23:55 has the serial no. JS719, which was a Brewster F3A-1.
Keith Laycock well at least Brewster made something useful eventually...
Awesome.
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Many thanks for putting this up
Matthew Rowe
The voices are priceless.
Thanks for posting, good stuff
"Deck landing is not difficult or dangerous"
Every successful landing is a failed suicide.
Nice to see the old R.N.V.R. lace again.
Go to any sea cadet unit to see the wavy Navy
I say chaps, did you hear, old Ponsenby-Smythe just pranged his crate.... straight into the deck! The Old Man is absolutely livid. Said it's his turn in the barrel tonight........ Captain's Choice !!!
Dammit Wilson!
Great stuff...all these deck lendings….and slae flying. Is Tom Cruise playing the part of Wilson here? Jolly gid stuff here...on with the deck lendings then.
"avoid this at all cost"
a random Hellcat: hold my beer
"I say, permission to wizz the tower?"
"Something I should know about, old chap?"
H.M.S.INDEFATIGABLE I served on her in iww2 for 4 years in Home Fleet and PACIFIC Fleet and in all the Actions she was at OKINAWA being the last one then to Tokio Bay to see eh surrender of Japanese Forces 1945
Pretty tricky stuff!!!!
One question. How does the batsman judge the height and speed? Seems a tough job. I do love these old films. Thanks for sharing!
In the early days they had reference markings on the ship so they could kind of judge where the aircraft was in relation to the ship but it was mostly just experience of having watched hundreds come in for landing.
Later they developed a device, almost like a sight that showed if they were to high, to low etc. It has been a while so I don't recall the name of the video, or details but there is a video here on RUclips showing how the batsman's job is done and the advancements up to modern electronic systems.
Amazing! That so many successful landings could be pulled off using only mk1 eyeball! Damn those guys were good! Thanks for the answer.
The batsman is an experienced flyer in his own right.
Love the fake news bit: "Wilson was one of those types who thought deck landing was just too easy..." LMAAO.
The carrier is very likely HMS _Campania_.
How do you know?
@@nollix She is described as an escort carrier. This video was made a year after the war. Immediately after the war, the RN returned all of its American-built carriers to the USN. Almost all British-built converted carriers were returned to their original owners. The only escort carriers that were retained were the _Nairana_ class. One was transferred to the Dutch Navy. Another was sent to Asia to repatriate POWs. That left _Campania_ as the only remaining escort carrier under RN control in home waters, and therefore available for the production of this video.
Fabulous stuff ......God save the Queen!
Admiravel o esforço dos antigos herois da aviação no desemvolvimento de tecnicas para o pefeito uso e controle das aeronaves em suas diversas situações de dificuldade de pouso ou decolagem. Uma aula de determinação para a o desenvolvimento dessas técnicas para serem aperfeiçoadas no futuro! Merecem nosso respeito e admiração e agradecimento!
I thought all the Corsairs went over the side on the cessation of hostilities.?
nigel mitchell Nope. That would be a huge waste of military equipment. Only severely damaged aircraft were dumped overboard.
@@stickman3214 I believe some battle worn Lend Lease Wildcats were dumped after Japan surrendered - the Americans did not want them back.
A whole load or aircraft were dumped over the cliff at Hal Far at Malta after the hostilities ceased....
@@stickman3214 Speaking for the RN, my old dad was a mech in 436 sq, HMS Victorious, he said all Corsairs and associated tools had to go over the side.
He said news of the atom bomb was the best he ever heard !
Apologies for the late reply.
Anyone know where the land based landings are done..
Tanyano9 - Easthaven in Scotland.
@@Moriarty1st I wonder if Eric Winkle Brown was in any of these..?
Don't think so, but my father was.
@@Moriarty1st So which one was your father..?
@@tanyano9
Can't say for sure (if at all) but according to his log book, on Oct 3rd 1945 he was flying Corsairs 'M' & 'S' in 731 Squadron at East Haven on "film work" as a clockwork mouse - doing ADDLs for training sprog batsmen. M & S feature in the film, so it might possibly (??) be him. Left in May 46.
Who else watches this just for the delicious RP? 8:15 "A fleek of the baats"
I have often wonded why do aircraft come in to land with a sweeping turn rather than coming in straight
Keeping a view of the carrier at all times.
The nose of the aircraft is so long, coming in straight means the pilot looses sight of the batsman and carrier too far out. Modern jets don't suffer this to the same degree, so can come in straighter than the old piston jobs.
A lot of that was due to the Corsair. The nose was so long and the attitude of the plane was nose high on landing. The USN didn't like them initially as a result and let the RN and USMC have them, despite the fact that they were the best carrier borne fighter of the war. The RN developed the curved approach to give the pilot a clear view of the deck on the approach. The USN later adopted the same approach when they bought Corsair onboard carriers.
The Americans built the Corsair for carrier landings but found it wasn’t up to the job so used it for land operations. They gave some to us Brits. and we worked out how to land it on a carrier by doing a turning approach. The problem with the Corsair was the big, bloody great engine on the front hindered the view on landing! We also carried out other mods. We raised the pilots seat by seven inches and gave it a bubble canopy. The cowling flaps on the top of the engine were closed shut giving more visibility. One that was unexpected was due to British carriers having a lower ceiling in the aircraft bay they cut the wings tips off. This had the unexpected result that at slow speeds ie. landing speeds, the aircraft would ‘float’. All these small mods. allowed the Corsair to become a carrier aircraft again. We then had to train American pilots how to land planes in a turning approach which they were most appreciative as they thought that it was a great carrier aircraft. P.s. My dad was Fleet Air Arm for a while during WWII.
@@dogsnads5634 That's simply not an accurate statement regarding the approach. Americans were also using a curved approach, as it is required to maintain the required spacing between planes in the landing cycle. Much like today, they aimed for 15-20 seconds in the "groove" before touchdown, doing a straight-in approach would have made that impossible, since they also flew in a racetrack pattern around the ship. The brits modified the Corsair by making the top cowl flaps flush with the fuselage, and taping them shut, so that oil etc wouldn't spill through (this is why you see long stripes of white tape on the cowling on US/UK Corsairs), they also raised the seat by 7 inches, as well as cut off the wingtips (due to hangar deck space/clearance) which also improved the landing characteristics (the Americans didn't do that however). The Americans did however, adopt the cowl-flaps fix, the seat fix as well as installing a blown "malcolm-style" canopy in place of the birdcage style canopy on the F4U-1s, and they also modified the oleo struts so that they didn't bounce nearly as much when landing on the deck. This new model/production-block was named F4U-1a.
Poor batsman, getting a bloody idiot down safely is both physically taxing and mentally frustrating, enjoyed the mosquito landings by group captain Eric Brown, they had to use different props and techniques since the stalling speed was 10 mph higher than the maximum landing speed for the arresting cables for such a heavy aircraft.
Wilson was a smart-ass. Would they really have given him a second chance? Also, is that escort carrier a British design, or American Lend-Lease?
It's a British design carrier.
as were many of the ships built in US yards, like LSTs and liberty ships. US ship yard staff helped of course but base designs were British.
No, Wilson is British and therefore a smart-arse. An ass in proper English is a small donkey.
@@Peorhum I'm sure Kaiser Shipbuilding took features from existing designs but due to the unique production methods the ship design was Kaiser's alone. The previous "jeep" carriers where conversions, particularly of oilers.
Luxury accommodation for a Subbie! :-)
RNVR One too!
19:44 deja vu
Wilson stuffed another sir, bring him here I'm going to give him a good gob-squabble.
Memories of Simpsons Troy McLure.
And thirdly this is the island, avoid this at all costs! Sound advice. Lol.
Well a Wyvern did not on HMS Eagel...pilot got away with it when it landed upside down on the deck...He was killed later in a heli prang...
It would be so helpful if the Brits would learn to speak English LOL. Why does the American Corsair should like a V12? "Watch that" sound dubbing LOL
Before you shout your American mouth off the Royal Navy were landing Corsairs on Carriers a year before the USN.Because the Corsair had such a long nose and poor forward vision the Yanks deemed it too dangerous.
James Webb - how rude!
Rude ! In what way, telling the truth. The Americans are forever thumping their chest, claiming actions that they only participated in.
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Remember, this is the '40's, audio and video technology was still being improved so i'm sure the mics picked up all that wind... you had no choice.
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