Despotic rule? In your video, you use many non-historical and unfounded terms regarding the Persians. Please explain about theme!!! calling the Persian rule despotic is historically inaccurate. The way the Persians governed was never against the cultural and religious principles of the people of their empire, and they respected the beliefs of others. Even in Greek cities in Asia Minor, there were many city-states that governed in their traditional democratic manner, and the Persians ont only did not oppose this practice, but they even supported and protected it, if in one of their cities like Sardis, when a tyrant would come and remove democracy, the Achaemenids would send army to restore democracy to that city again. But why? Because of the same belief that everyone is respected for their own traditions. now you call the Persian rule despotic and oppressive? Before making a video, it is good to be educated enough about it and not to use clichéd and non-historical terms!!
You raise an important point about the tolerance of the Persian Empire, and it is indeed historically verified that the Persians often allowed the peoples they conquered to maintain their religions and cultures, and respected local traditions. The term "despotic" in the context of my video is used in a general sense to describe a centralized form of government with absolute power held by the monarch. Achaemenid kings such as Darius or Xerxes wielded immense power, which, compared to the more decentralized and democratic Greek city-states, could have been seen as despotism from the Greek perspective. This word also reflects the way Persian rule was often described by Greek historians like Herodotus. I acknowledge that the Persians exhibited flexibility in their attitude towards local customs and religions, and your comment helps to provide a more balanced understanding of this complex topic. I aim to create content based on historical sources, and such discussions help to broaden the context. Thank you for your remarks - this is truly an important aspect that could be emphasized more in the video
@@History_Mapped_Out Yes, historians like Herodotus have expressed various opinions about the Persian government, the power of Persian women, the meaning of eunuchs, and things such that. However, we should not conclude or even use such terms based on a one-sided perspective and present it to others accordingly. For exemple, the Greeks looked at the slavery of the Persians differently, from their perspective, all those who worked for the Great King including the satraps (governors), were slaves of the Persian King, well "slave" even as a term, had another meaning in the ancient world. This was an example to say that based on ancient individual views, such terms should not be used, because their meaning is not what it really was. Even today's historians do not approach Persian history in the way you are analyzing it. To know and correctly understand history, we must be aware of the worldview of each civilization, but we should not necessarily draw conclusions based on it, especially when it concerns another nation or ethnicity, which also has its own perspective and worldview.
@@History_Mapped_Out so Iran was an actual country not a confederation of loosely aligned city states - that doesn’t make it despotic. They also had fewer slaves than the Greeks but implied the Persians enslaved their subjects. I expect better than “the 300” movie/comic strip on this channel
@@History_Mapped_Out No need to explain more, your message was clear, you said: "hundreds of peoples and tribes were forced to accept Persian rule and submit to a despotic regime" Just accept your wrong
There is a preconception that Greece was the underdog during the Persian Wars. Indeed the Persians did expand rapidly and formed an empire of impressive size. Nevertheless, Greece was one of the old major powers of the Mediterranean, since the Bronze Age. Not only that, Greece had considerable military traditions, heavily focusing on heavy infantry, clad in armor from head to toe, fighting in dense formations. No other civilization of that time came even close to fielding such heavy troops for hand to hand combat. The Persians never really stood a chance.
It is quite unjust to call Arhaemedians despotic considering that the first declaration of human rights in history was written and put into laws by Cyrus the great. Real historians have written a lot about the administration methods setup by persians which is still being used now. Such as postal services and transportation roads. Also what happened to Alex the Macedonian empire after his death? Macedonia and Greece were subjugated by Roman and Ottoman rulers. Whereas strong Iranian empires such as Parthians and sassanids and Safavids and Nader Shah empires blocked the Roman and Ottoman expansion to the east and defeated them many times. So it is not the story of only wars between Persians and Macedonians or Romans as far as west is concerned.They want to show it as a conflict between civilised west and the Barbers (Iranians). Whereas it was the other way round.
First of all Macedonia is in Greece... Was a Greek regio. Secondly the empire of Alexander divided into several Greek empirs ruling for 300 years many parts of Asia including northern India... Making Greek the absolute number one language and Greek culture the standard culture of the time so much so that it was the Romans that had to learn Greek and not the other way around... So much so that the Roman state when Rome the city and the Western Latin part had fallen it was the Greek part that remained alive for another 1000 years and it was this part that continued to fight off the Persians, Sassaniads etc... This Greek part never fell under the Arabs while Persians did... And all that started by Alexander the Greek.
@@vanmars5718 First of all, this video says biased and historically incorrect words about Persians, which is completely absurde!!! 2). Yet the empire Alexander had founded collapsed. If we compare the empire founded by Cyrus with that of Alexander, we see that Cyrus's empire remained unified, expanded, and continued for 2 centuries after his death, while Alexander's empire fell almost immediately. The Greeks were unable to keep an unified empire founded by their leader. Establishing an empire is the first step, but maintaining and organizing it is even more important and difficult. this in itself is a major failure for someone who had established an empire!!!! 3). Yes, we know this period as Hellenism, but the period of Hellenism itself was a cultural evolution between Hellenic culture and other cultures, which caused several forms of Hellenism to develop in every corner of the empire. For example, Seleucid Hellenism was different from Hellenism in Egypt. Many historians believe that the term "Hellenism" has a universal meaning and is not only related to Greek cylture. I recommend you the book of "From Samarkhand to Sardis" which is related to the Seleucid period, and this book is known by other researchers as "a new vision of the Seleucid Empire". In this book, they had tried to place the Seleucid kingdom in the zone of Asia and the East, and many of the sources they have shown are from Mesopotamia and Iranic itself, which shows that not all sources are in Greek. And it is possible to have a different view from the first Seleucus to the last king of the Seleucids, Antiochus VIII, who are rulers who speak Greek, but at the same time have an Iranian and Mesopotamian tradition. We should not have the wrong view that this is a cultural invasion by the Greeks or Iranians, but rather a cultural evolution took place between them. 4). Alexander's story has nothing to do with the conquest of Iran by Arabs, nonsense comment👎 5). Regarding your comment about the conquest of Iran by the Arabs, I must say that Greece also didn't have its own independent dynasty at that time either! The Byzantine Empire was not officially a Greek dynasty. It was a Roman empire but had a majority of Greek influences and citizens. But yet, Greece and Byzantine Empire were inséparable but not the same, just as the Seljuk, Timurid, and Abbasid Empires were inseparable from Iran, its influences, and its people, but none of these were considered Iranian dynasties, exactly the same for Greece and Byzantin empire!!! 6). Except that, take a look at a general list of positions of Iran and Greece's lack of independence throughout history: •The years of non-independence of four old countries in the most dangerous geopolitical region in terms of invasion by foreign powers (from longest to shortest years) ----------------- 1). Mesopotamia: 2232 years: •Achaemenid Empire (Persian Dynasty): Approximately 208 years (539 BC to 331 BC) • Seleucid Empire: Approximately 245 years (312 BC to 64 BC) •Parthian Empire: Approximately 474 years (247 BC to 224 AD) •Sassanid Empire: Approximately 415 years (224 AD to 651 AD) • Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661) • Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD) •Abbasid Empire: Approximately 535 years (750 AD to 1258 AD) •Ottoman&Iranian dynasties : Approximately 418 years (1534 AD to 1922 AD) •British Empire: Approximately 10 years (1922 AD to 1932 AD) ----------------- 2). Egypt: 1995 years Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the different empires over Egypt: •Achaemenid Empire (Persian Dynasty): About 205 years (525 BC to 332 BC) • Seleucid Empire: About 30 years (305 BC to 275 BC) •Roman Empire: Approximately 672 years (30 BC to 642 AD, including the period of the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine) • Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661) • Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD) •Abbasid Empire: Approximately 535 years (750 AD to 1258 AD) •Ottoman Empire: Approximately 405 years (1517 AD to 1922 AD) •British Empire: Approximately 30 years (1922 AD to 1952-> the establishment of the Republic of Egypt) ----------------- 3). Greece : 1702 years Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the different empires over Greece: •Roman& Byzantine Empires : Approximately 1334 years (146 BC to 1480 AD) •Ottoman Empire: Approximately 368 years (1453 AD to 1830 AD) ----------------- 4). Iran : 742 years Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the various empires over Iran: • Seleucid Empire: About 182 years (330 BC to 148 BC) • Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661) • Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD) •Abbasid Empire: Approximately 69 years (750 AD to 819 AD->the establishment of the Samanid dynasty) •Seljuk Empire: Approximately 157 years (1037 AD to 1194 AD) •Ilkhanid Empire: Approximately 79 years (1256 AD to 1335 AD) •Timurid Empire: Approximately 137 years (1370 AD to 1507 AD)
Excellent visuals and video, thank you. However, I do have to say that you are a bit careless with your claims. For example, it is, at the very least, misleading to claim that Athenian-Spartan conflict was secretly instigated by Persia. It's just clumsy writing. Also, "Sea of Azov" is an anachronism of at least a thousand years. No problem, though. Overall video is great and I am grateful for it.
Ok, you are using the word "however" less and less thats a progress. You should do some more complex maps that are less known, like china or India. Nice video, getting better and better...
Since the father of historiography Herodotus wrote about this war on his books. Also later historians of antiquity mentioned about this war on their works plenty of times.
@@WhoElseLikesPortal they basically tried to recreate the sentiment of the 300 movie as historical fact. So yeah not pleased. I know Iran’s current government and the West are not happy with each other and the former is not doing well by its people or many of the people of the region but we shouldn’t change history to match our current sentiments. Iran and Eastern Europe had a great back and forth that mutually benefitted them over the millennia but the only stories repeatedly told are through the eyes of Western Europeans glorifying the Greeks and Romans, who they only have a loose heritage with as subjects as opposed to descendants, and how the good guys (Greeks) beat the evil empire (Iran). It’s tired, inaccurate and hides the beautiful relationships as well as epic battles these countries and city states had over a very long period.
It has nothing to do with nationalist my friend!! the maker of this video use biased words regarding the Persians, and Iranians are protesting against it. If the same thing happened for the greeks, there would undoubtedly be many protests from others. Is it fair to call them greek nationalists? think a little bit logic and faire!!
@@Greek.history.enthusiast And? how many years did he manage to keep it? Establishing an empire is the first step, but maintaining and organizing it is even more important and difficult. Alexander's biggest failure was the collapse of the empire he founded, which is the biggest loss in itself. It is not without reason that people say the Achaemenid Empire was among the greatest in history, but no one says this for Alexander's empire. btw, Just for your general information, did you know what happened for the Persians after Alexander's conquest? It took 50 years for the Persians to start their rule again in modern Fars. After the chaos caused by the death of Seleucus I, Baghdad I declared independence in Persia (modern Fars) in 280 BC, and the dynasty of Frataraka began probably independent in Iran's Fars province. Less than 50 years later (238 BC), the Parthians declared independence and liberated northeastern Iran. And finally they took back all of Iran from the Greeks in 146 BC. Achaemenid empire fall wasn't the end of Iran's power and independence, Iranian tribes reestablishment multiple empires again and again after the Achaemenids in the following years, when Greece was under Roman and Ottoman flags for more than 2000 years!!!
@@CyrusPersia-wv7zo after his death the empire was divided into several kingdoms such as Pontus, Seleucid empire, Ptolemaic Egypt etc which all wanted to restore the Macedonian empire
@@most_wanted_gsxr4221 i meant its greeks and not greacians.i dont said he sould use the other name. Also the name greeks is not the modern name of greeks but the name given to them by latins because the first greek tribe arrived to italy were called that way. modern greeks still call themselfes hellenes
@@kingtryfon5702 I miss understood your comment my friend sorry, yes we do call ourselves Hellenes and the name “Greeks” is the Latin exonym. I thought you were some Albanoid or Monkedonski troll who denies the existence of the Greek (Hellenic) people thinking that they are the descendants of Ancient Greeks. Again sorry I misunderstood your kind intention …
Despotic is a major stretch. Also the Achaemenid empire did not enslave its subjects in a systematic way as this video implies.
Wow!!!! What a history and what a hearoic defence there fredom...
I'm impressed 💪💪
Thanks for sharing your studies with us 👏 👏 👏
Many mistakes … you show Aigina island as salamis island
Despotic rule?
In your video, you use many non-historical and unfounded terms regarding the Persians. Please explain about theme!!! calling the Persian rule despotic is historically inaccurate. The way the Persians governed was never against the cultural and religious principles of the people of their empire, and they respected the beliefs of others. Even in Greek cities in Asia Minor, there were many city-states that governed in their traditional democratic manner, and the Persians ont only did not oppose this practice, but they even supported and protected it, if in one of their cities like Sardis, when a tyrant would come and remove democracy, the Achaemenids would send army to restore democracy to that city again. But why? Because of the same belief that everyone is respected for their own traditions. now you call the Persian rule despotic and oppressive? Before making a video, it is good to be educated enough about it and not to use clichéd and non-historical terms!!
You raise an important point about the tolerance of the Persian Empire, and it is indeed historically verified that the Persians often allowed the peoples they conquered to maintain their religions and cultures, and respected local traditions.
The term "despotic" in the context of my video is used in a general sense to describe a centralized form of government with absolute power held by the monarch. Achaemenid kings such as Darius or Xerxes wielded immense power, which, compared to the more decentralized and democratic Greek city-states, could have been seen as despotism from the Greek perspective. This word also reflects the way Persian rule was often described by Greek historians like Herodotus.
I acknowledge that the Persians exhibited flexibility in their attitude towards local customs and religions, and your comment helps to provide a more balanced understanding of this complex topic. I aim to create content based on historical sources, and such discussions help to broaden the context. Thank you for your remarks - this is truly an important aspect that could be emphasized more in the video
@@History_Mapped_Out Yes, historians like Herodotus have expressed various opinions about the Persian government, the power of Persian women, the meaning of eunuchs, and things such that. However, we should not conclude or even use such terms based on a one-sided perspective and present it to others accordingly. For exemple, the Greeks looked at the slavery of the Persians differently, from their perspective, all those who worked for the Great King including the satraps (governors), were slaves of the Persian King, well "slave" even as a term, had another meaning in the ancient world. This was an example to say that based on ancient individual views, such terms should not be used, because their meaning is not what it really was. Even today's historians do not approach Persian history in the way you are analyzing it. To know and correctly understand history, we must be aware of the worldview of each civilization, but we should not necessarily draw conclusions based on it, especially when it concerns another nation or ethnicity, which also has its own perspective and worldview.
@@History_Mapped_Out so Iran was an actual country not a confederation of loosely aligned city states - that doesn’t make it despotic. They also had fewer slaves than the Greeks but implied the Persians enslaved their subjects. I expect better than “the 300” movie/comic strip on this channel
@@History_Mapped_Out No need to explain more, your message was clear, you said: "hundreds of peoples and tribes were forced to accept Persian rule and submit to a despotic regime"
Just accept your wrong
@@History_Mapped_Out Interesting explanation but I don't know if it can be accurate for this case!?
these are getting better and better
Love your content ❤❤❤❤
Xenophon walked so Alexander could run.
There is a preconception that Greece was the underdog during the Persian Wars. Indeed the Persians did expand rapidly and formed an empire of impressive size. Nevertheless, Greece was one of the old major powers of the Mediterranean, since the Bronze Age. Not only that, Greece had considerable military traditions, heavily focusing on heavy infantry, clad in armor from head to toe, fighting in dense formations. No other civilization of that time came even close to fielding such heavy troops for hand to hand combat. The Persians never really stood a chance.
One of best history chanel videos
Pls keep making video about ancient empires
Thanks For this ❤❤❤
The island of Salamis is further north from the island of Aegina that you mispresented as Salamis
fascinating
6:51 bro on the right got the "sunglasses" DLC
It is quite unjust to call Arhaemedians despotic considering that the first declaration of human rights in history was written and put into laws by Cyrus the great. Real historians have written a lot about the administration methods setup by persians which is still being used now. Such as postal services and transportation roads. Also what happened to Alex the Macedonian empire after his death? Macedonia and Greece were subjugated by Roman and Ottoman rulers. Whereas strong Iranian empires such as Parthians and sassanids and Safavids and Nader Shah empires blocked the Roman and Ottoman expansion to the east and defeated them many times. So it is not the story of only wars between Persians and Macedonians or Romans as far as west is concerned.They want to show it as a conflict between civilised west and the Barbers (Iranians). Whereas it was the other way round.
First of all Macedonia is in Greece... Was a Greek regio. Secondly the empire of Alexander divided into several Greek empirs ruling for 300 years many parts of Asia including northern India... Making Greek the absolute number one language and Greek culture the standard culture of the time so much so that it was the Romans that had to learn Greek and not the other way around... So much so that the Roman state when Rome the city and the Western Latin part had fallen it was the Greek part that remained alive for another 1000 years and it was this part that continued to fight off the Persians, Sassaniads etc... This Greek part never fell under the Arabs while Persians did...
And all that started by Alexander the Greek.
@@vanmars5718 First of all, this video says biased and historically incorrect words about Persians, which is completely absurde!!!
2). Yet the empire Alexander had founded collapsed. If we compare the empire founded by Cyrus with that of Alexander, we see that Cyrus's empire remained unified, expanded, and continued for 2 centuries after his death, while Alexander's empire fell almost immediately. The Greeks were unable to keep an unified empire founded by their leader. Establishing an empire is the first step, but maintaining and organizing it is even more important and difficult. this in itself is a major failure for someone who had established an empire!!!!
3). Yes, we know this period as Hellenism, but the period of Hellenism itself was a cultural evolution between Hellenic culture and other cultures, which caused several forms of Hellenism to develop in every corner of the empire. For example, Seleucid Hellenism was different from Hellenism in Egypt. Many historians believe that the term "Hellenism" has a universal meaning and is not only related to Greek cylture. I recommend you the book of "From Samarkhand to Sardis" which is related to the Seleucid period, and this book is known by other researchers as "a new vision of the Seleucid Empire". In this book, they had tried to place the Seleucid kingdom in the zone of Asia and the East, and many of the sources they have shown are from Mesopotamia and Iranic itself, which shows that not all sources are in Greek. And it is possible to have a different view from the first Seleucus to the last king of the Seleucids, Antiochus VIII, who are rulers who speak Greek, but at the same time have an Iranian and Mesopotamian tradition. We should not have the wrong view that this is a cultural invasion by the Greeks or Iranians, but rather a cultural evolution took place between them.
4). Alexander's story has nothing to do with the conquest of Iran by Arabs, nonsense comment👎
5). Regarding your comment about the conquest of Iran by the Arabs, I must say that Greece also didn't have its own independent dynasty at that time either! The Byzantine Empire was not officially a Greek dynasty. It was a Roman empire but had a majority of Greek influences and citizens. But yet, Greece and Byzantine Empire were inséparable but not the same, just as the Seljuk, Timurid, and Abbasid Empires were inseparable from Iran, its influences, and its people, but none of these were considered Iranian dynasties, exactly the same for Greece and Byzantin empire!!!
6). Except that, take a look at a general list of positions of Iran and Greece's lack of independence throughout history:
•The years of non-independence of four old countries in the most dangerous geopolitical region in terms of invasion by foreign powers (from longest to shortest years)
-----------------
1). Mesopotamia: 2232 years:
•Achaemenid Empire (Persian Dynasty): Approximately 208 years (539 BC to 331 BC)
• Seleucid Empire: Approximately 245 years (312 BC to 64 BC)
•Parthian Empire: Approximately 474 years (247 BC to 224 AD)
•Sassanid Empire: Approximately 415 years (224 AD to 651 AD)
• Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661)
• Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD)
•Abbasid Empire: Approximately 535 years (750 AD to 1258 AD)
•Ottoman&Iranian dynasties : Approximately 418 years (1534 AD to 1922 AD)
•British Empire: Approximately 10 years (1922 AD to 1932 AD)
-----------------
2). Egypt: 1995 years
Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the different empires over Egypt:
•Achaemenid Empire (Persian Dynasty): About 205 years (525 BC to 332 BC)
• Seleucid Empire: About 30 years (305 BC to 275 BC)
•Roman Empire: Approximately 672 years (30 BC to 642 AD, including the period of the Eastern Roman Empire or Byzantine)
• Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661)
• Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD)
•Abbasid Empire: Approximately 535 years (750 AD to 1258 AD)
•Ottoman Empire: Approximately 405 years (1517 AD to 1922 AD)
•British Empire: Approximately 30 years (1922 AD to 1952-> the establishment of the Republic of Egypt)
-----------------
3). Greece : 1702 years
Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the different empires over Greece:
•Roman& Byzantine Empires : Approximately 1334 years (146 BC to 1480 AD)
•Ottoman Empire: Approximately 368 years (1453 AD to 1830 AD)
-----------------
4). Iran : 742 years
Here is the approximate duration of the domination of the various empires over Iran:
• Seleucid Empire: About 182 years (330 BC to 148 BC)
• Rashidun: About 29 years (632-661)
• Umayyad Empire: About 89 years (661 AD to 750 AD)
•Abbasid Empire: Approximately 69 years (750 AD to 819 AD->the establishment of the Samanid dynasty)
•Seljuk Empire: Approximately 157 years (1037 AD to 1194 AD)
•Ilkhanid Empire: Approximately 79 years (1256 AD to 1335 AD)
•Timurid Empire: Approximately 137 years (1370 AD to 1507 AD)
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Excellent visuals and video, thank you. However, I do have to say that you are a bit careless with your claims. For example, it is, at the very least, misleading to claim that Athenian-Spartan conflict was secretly instigated by Persia. It's just clumsy writing. Also, "Sea of Azov" is an anachronism of at least a thousand years. No problem, though. Overall video is great and I am grateful for it.
Ok, you are using the word "however" less and less thats a progress. You should do some more complex maps that are less known, like china or India. Nice video, getting better and better...
How did they know that all these actually happened?
Since the father of historiography Herodotus wrote about this war on his books. Also later historians of antiquity mentioned about this war on their works plenty of times.
8:54 "Come and take them!" Μολών λαβέ
Leonidas is mmyrth
great explanation
And later Alexander the Great came 🇬🇷
who on earth are the greecians?
Dang!
You lost me at liberty loving greeks
List inaccuracies here
@@WhoElseLikesPortal they basically tried to recreate the sentiment of the 300 movie as historical fact. So yeah not pleased. I know Iran’s current government and the West are not happy with each other and the former is not doing well by its people or many of the people of the region but we shouldn’t change history to match our current sentiments. Iran and Eastern Europe had a great back and forth that mutually benefitted them over the millennia but the only stories repeatedly told are through the eyes of Western Europeans glorifying the Greeks and Romans, who they only have a loose heritage with as subjects as opposed to descendants, and how the good guys (Greeks) beat the evil empire (Iran). It’s tired, inaccurate and hides the beautiful relationships as well as epic battles these countries and city states had over a very long period.
Lmao the Iranian nationalists here are triggered 😂😂
It has nothing to do with nationalist my friend!! the maker of this video use biased words regarding the Persians, and Iranians are protesting against it. If the same thing happened for the greeks, there would undoubtedly be many protests from others. Is it fair to call them greek nationalists?
think a little bit logic and faire!!
XERXES wore only underwear like in 300 rise of an empire
nice joke
This is 😂 not salamis😢thia is agina island
Xerxes the great king of persia conquered Aten. Your story is full of false statements.
The united ancient Greek city states kept Persia back and later Alexander the Great conquered all of it without losing once
@@Greek.history.enthusiast And? how many years did he manage to keep it? Establishing an empire is the first step, but maintaining and organizing it is even more important and difficult. Alexander's biggest failure was the collapse of the empire he founded, which is the biggest loss in itself. It is not without reason that people say the Achaemenid Empire was among the greatest in history, but no one says this for Alexander's empire.
btw, Just for your general information, did you know what happened for the Persians after Alexander's conquest? It took 50 years for the Persians to start their rule again in modern Fars. After the chaos caused by the death of Seleucus I, Baghdad I declared independence in Persia (modern Fars) in 280 BC, and the dynasty of Frataraka began probably independent in Iran's Fars province. Less than 50 years later (238 BC), the Parthians declared independence and liberated northeastern Iran. And finally they took back all of Iran from the Greeks in 146 BC. Achaemenid empire fall wasn't the end of Iran's power and independence, Iranian tribes reestablishment multiple empires again and again after the Achaemenids in the following years, when Greece was under Roman and Ottoman flags for more than 2000 years!!!
@@CyrusPersia-wv7zo Greece was the eastern roman empire for almost twelve centuries
@@CyrusPersia-wv7zo the Macedonian empire didn't collapse after Alexander's death
@@CyrusPersia-wv7zo after his death the empire was divided into several kingdoms such as Pontus, Seleucid empire, Ptolemaic Egypt etc which all wanted to restore the Macedonian empire
grecians? is this a joke
What’s the joke ? It’s the same as calling them Hellens it’s just the modern name of these peoples
@@most_wanted_gsxr4221 i meant its greeks and not greacians.i dont said he sould use the other name. Also the name greeks is not the modern name of greeks but the name given to them by latins because the first greek tribe arrived to italy were called that way. modern greeks still call themselfes hellenes
@@kingtryfon5702 I miss understood your comment my friend sorry, yes we do call ourselves Hellenes and the name “Greeks” is the Latin exonym. I thought you were some Albanoid or Monkedonski troll who denies the existence of the Greek (Hellenic) people thinking that they are the descendants of Ancient Greeks. Again sorry I misunderstood your kind intention …
Darío wasn,t Ciro and goes until now 😂 If he rises and see what humans have done with his vision 😂