Put Your Pitchforks Away People! Sat Chat 1/27/24
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- Опубликовано: 3 авг 2024
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Gah! I accidentally deleted a comment when I was trying to delete my response because I posted a frown face but meant to post a smile face. Please re-comment if it was you. I'm having a "not enough coffee yet " moment 😂
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It’s happen to me when correct any misspellings or etc. sometimes it just doesn’t let you do what you wanted to do!!! Frustrating. Sorry you had some difficult responses! That’s why there are so many different art supplies out there. We are all different with different levels of where we are in our art journey hence different art supplies. And I think that was clear in your review. You pointed out all the great things too. ❤
Lindsey, I saw the referenced review. You were kind, fair, and transparent with your review. You have nothing to apologize for. The individuals who said outrageous things have shown more about themselves than about you. Dust off, and carry on. I am here for you. ❤
Thank you so much!
I have to agree with everyone here. While the referenced artist said she was cool with your review, the subsequent videos from them felt a little defensive to me touting their products. They are nice, however, everything you mentioned was spot on. Thank you for all you do! I trust your reviews and felt very similarly. Nothing bad whatsoever, but exactly as you articulated. Don’t let the crank pots get at you and don’t apologize for their behavior. Constructive reviews don’t mean anything bad. People still have a difficult time with that and if the product line creator does anything they should at least say something to their followers to behave themselves and that treatment of others is not part of their brand. If she has already, then kudos to them!
One of the ills of today's "reviews" is that everyone has to be a 10 out of 10. Only perfect is acceptable. Anything else is a slight of some kind. It's dishonest and fake. We can be proud of being 7, 8, 9 as we grow and love what we do.
Also I saw the sales went up including the books. Stans and trolls need to CTFD and stay off both channels. Dragging the community down.🤦🏽♀️
Your review was fair and balanced, and on par with all of your reviews. You and the other artist have very different styles and I love you both! Keep up the great work Lindsay! You are awesome!!
I think your review was quite fair and diplomatic. Thank you for doing it. I'm sorry you received unfair blowback. ❤
I thought so to. Thank you for understanding:)
It was overly generous in my opinion. I admire how she was able to find so many nice things to say.
Agreed! I’ve had my eye on that line of products for awhile, and your review helped me narrow down exactly what I want (and what will stress me out trying to care for). People need to chill out!
@@catherinescorner716did for me too. Her brushes are awesome!
Oh, please, you don't need to apologise for other people's unkind behaviour. You have always been fair, thorough in your reviews. People who came over with an intent to do harm wont be convinced that they are wrong. You are still being gracious by not even mentioning Kirsty Rice in this video! Dont engage with the trolls -they will go away as soon as they came. Hopefully aomeone was curious enough to see other videos of yours. Your response tonthe drama was clear, dignified and restrained. Well done!
Thank you, I just want to put that whole episode behind me.
@@thefrugalcrafter❤❤❤❤
Exactly! Well stated.
Lindsey, you are just 100% fair, professional and altogether a kind person. I’m a long time subscriber and appreciate your honesty and professionalism.
Thanks!
Please don't let this stop you from reviewing products like this in the future
Yep, folks need to be aware that if you send your products for review, it may not be a positive review, doh!! But Lindsay was very positive and was correct in calling it not professional paints. 😂❤
Just saying, I watch many You tubers - both tutorials and reviews of art supplies. Hands down, you are probably the most professional and honest person online. On that review, you were especially delicate and kind in your comments, in no way offensive.
When I started I in art a few years ago, I watched many different artists, yet your channel is the one I return to for all the wonderful posts. Thank you for all you share each and every week!
Thank you!
I could not have said this better! :)
I'm so sorry you've had to go through this. I was shocked at the reaction as well bc I did not think your review was unfair or unkind at all. I value your honesty and I was so impressed with the gentle way you addressed your concerns about the one (of FIVE) product where you had some concerns. As Becca says, reviews are for consumers, not sellers. ❤
Thank you so much!
I watched that review you talked about and I think you were fair and kind.
Thanks, that's what I was aiming for. People like to hear what they want to hear I guess.
Thank you:)
What I don't understand is, ANYONE who knows you, you're honest with your reviews. When you send your product out for a review it is a gamble. I would want an honest review because it is an opportunity to see how others see a product. Of course, every company would love to get a glowing review, but you always say that it is your opinion and others may feel differently. You really have to watch your step when talking about other creators because their fan base can be brutal. Art supplies are subjectional to each individual person. I admire you Lindsay and I have nothing against the other creator. Thank you and God Bless
Thank you:)
@thefrugalcrafter this should be the pinned comment period! Such wisdom! Everything said here is spot on! Offering the most honest and truthful perspective on this subject!
I believe both parties could have done better. I believe both parties allowed their passion for art and creativity to cloud their ability to see how this would play out based on what both parties do... One focuses on the pure joy of painting and exploring creativity with wild abandonment and creates private label supplies... and the other party knows companies and products like no one else and does strick, categorical product reviews, along with tutorials. As a marketing developer I would not have put these 2 together in order to review my product. Ever! There are many other creators that are a much better fit. Your styles and way of approaching art are so vastly different anyone that follows both of you closely could see this wouldn't go smoothly at best.. and at worst it could seriously hurt both parties. I'm praying for both parties to gain valuable insight and demonstrate to both RUclips and viewers how to conduct yourself and repair the damage with care, concern, grace and wisdom. And that both parties grow and learn from this experience. And are made the better for it. I'm praying that become friends and valuable assests to each other.
And on a professional side note... Your title is horrible and could spark almost dead embers. Just saying as a fan of both parties... and being a trained marketing director.
I was at a local big box store, and found gouache on sale. I considered getting it (I've wanted gouache for a while), and then I thought "meh, I'll check to see what Lindsay has to say." That's how much you mean to us. Your audience loves and respects you. Just let everything else float on down the river!
Aww, you are so kind:)
cosign on that
I feel the same. I don’t buy anything unless I watch your review.
Your honesty is one of the things I love...please don't change😃
I won't:)
Product reviews cover both pros and cons. Product promotions only cover the pros, so for those who want to hear only pros, don't watch product reviews.
I agree:)
Hey Lindsay - I am of the same mind as others on here commenting. Your review was honest and fair. I watched the other RUclipsr's response and it was what I would have expected. As you say - we all like what we like. I am sorry that you had to endure the "drama" - it really wasn't necessary. As my late husband always said - "opinions are like a**holes - we all have one"...LOL
I totally agree!
I agree that your review was very fair! On another subject, your oil pastel painting really turned out great, and the fixative and varnishing made it complete! I learned a lot from your work! Thanks so very much.😊🤗
I'm a long time viewer but have rarely commented, but today I just want to send you lots of comfort and joy, because you give that to me. Life is not fair, full of pain and troubles, but those things should not be the focus. I search out folks who focus on the good stuff, and you are one of them. Thank you.
Thanks!
On being a “renaissance person“:
I’m in a crochet and knitting group, I walk, I’m working on my French (Babbel), I paint and craft… and I’ve learned through the years to let the crassness of others just roll off my back.
Nice!
How do you like Learning French on Babbel?
@@christinetrappenfortes7761 so far it’s ok. I had 2 years of French in high school but that was a loooonnnggg time ago!
Honestly, I think the tone for some components of KR palette/marketing might have been pre-set. When the palette was first released, many people wanted pigment information and initially there was a lot of resistance to that. Because "Proprietary." Many artists then wrote it off, because especially for those selling their works, you need more information to know if your artwork will truly last. (ASTM rating of a pigment does not always equate to lightfastness of a paint.)
I think KR might have a much better time leaning *into* what the palette *is* - i.e. a fun palette intended to encourage fearless painting and a jolly good time - i n s t e a d of insisting the palette is something it's *not* - i.e. a go-to palette for pigment nerds and self-described fine artists.
Nothing is so good that it's a Universally Good Fit for everyone. *N o t h i n g .*
You shouldn't have gotten any backlash. Your review was very fair and very kind. You and KR have different audiences AND THAT'S OKAY. But it's not okay for anyone else to take their frustrations out on you!!
(Also it was not cool for KR in livestream to accuse your audience of "borderline slander" and that more than likely fueled her audience to come here to "defend" her.)
Just my lukewarm takes on the matter!
She never should have claimed it was professional. Words have meaning. Yeah, a few of the comments were a bit spicy toward KR, but if I bought something thinking it was professional quality and then found out it wasn't, I would feel like I was misled. 🤷♀
Excellent comment!! 😊
@@watercolorswatcher "misled" still feels like gentle terminology. Frankly.
BUT *she did say as a reply comment to someone else that "crafters are fine artists."*
No hate to any crafters...... but I would like to grab some popcorn and watch someone tell a self-described fine artist this.
But yaknow? You said it best. "Words have meaning." Yeah. They really do.
I can't help but recall Jane Davenport's describing her palettes as "made with artist grade pigments." Which was totally correct. The pigment codes were available to prove it.
Did you know Jane Davenport also had a palette *with Schmincke*? Because I didn't! Why? Because none of us could afford it so they didn't sell like hot cakes, like her palettes at Michael's did!!!
W h a t A R e v o l u t i o n a r y T h o u g h t ... ... ... that a palette can be a wild success even if it doesn't carry a "professional paint" label.
I'm sorry. I'll step off my soapbox now. I do agree with you 100%
@@GingahSnapsArt You're right. I was being gentle with my terminology. I agree with everything you've said as well. I was looking at her Amazon listing earlier today, and someone asked yesterday in the Q&A for info on pigments, lightfastness, ASTM, etc since the paint is listed as professional quality. Someone who bought the set said it was addressed in the launch video. I watched that video from two years ago, and KR said that it wasn't a pro set, and if lightfastness was a concern or if you were going to sell your art, don't use her palette. I thought it was interesting that she said it wasn't professional then, but is now.
@@watercolorswatcher oh wow! I couldn't find said video, but I certainly believe you!
The story seems to evolve based on convenience at the time. Misleading at best. Sigh. Such a waste.
... But on the other hand, look at all this e n g a g e m e n t ~ 🙃🙂
I watched the review. I didn't think you were unkind. I honestly thought you were holding back a bit because of who's products they were. You are sweet and kind and sometimes you have to choose not to give others the power of taking up so much space in your mind (I also struggle with this). Keep doing you love!
It's hard tho!
@@thefrugalcrafter not sure where I've been, but this review was the first of your videos that I've seen. 😮 Not knowing you, I completely agree with this comment (above) about thinking that you were holding back ... and very kindly! After your review I went to the KR site and plan to order an empty palette. So for those thinking you were throwing shade on the artist ... you actually got her at least one sale!
You're my go to for unbiased, professionally crafted art product reviews, and you've not steered me wrong yet. You keep on telling it how it is. I appreciate you and respect your opinions. And if you throw one out there that I don't agree with, that's ok too. It's too bad we all can't just be grownups and get along. Love your channel!
Yes! I watch several reviewers, and no matter how much I respect them, we do not agree on everything, but we would not attack each other for it. I love to hear other takes on a product. More info is better.
As you mentioned in the review, you reviewed the product, not the person.
It's not your fault that others confused the two.
Your reviews are very helpful and look like you put a lot of time and thought into them. Please don't let the drama get you down. It's not actually you they are upset about, they confused their dislike for the results with the person doing the review.
Agreed 👍
Lindsay you are one of the few people that actually give a full and complete reviews. You just don't test out a product once and say yeah it's a great product. You test the products for a few days or even weeks and then give your opinion on it. I saw your review on Monday and thought that it was fair and honest. Didn't think anything more about it until I saw the other person response ( I subscribed to both of you like most people who watch your videos) and wow all I can say I was shocked on first all the mean and unhinged comments people were leaving for you. I was more shocked at Kristy's response I understand you want to defend your products but don't call your product professional grade when it clearly is not.. Then try to explain that you have a different opinion on what professional grade is because you don't think pigment and light fast ratings are important to you.That's not how any of that works. 99.999% of artists define artist grade paint as what pigments are being used, what is the light fast rating? Then to say "I wished that Lindsay would have reached out to me and I would have given her the information" The whole stream was like everyone is entitled to their own opinions but here are reasons why they're opinions are wrong. It was incredibly disappointing. Lindsay keep being you, keep on giving you honest opinions on the product you test and if the companies and or creators can't handle the criticism then maybe this will entice them to do better.❤
Thank you:)
I can't believe art youtubers have 'stans' who would behave like this. Bet they're old enough to know better too! Unpleasant for both you and the lady they've hitched their sad little parasocial wagon to so commiserations to you both. You're always so charitable in your videos so I'm here to be the annoyed Scot on your behalf! These people need to get a life! Put down the phone and go paint!!
We all need an annoyed Scot in our corner!
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It was unreal but hopefully everyone has calmed down now:)
omg we need “put down the phone and go paint!” t-shirts!
What you said, Sometimes people hand out pitchforks, though. Sometimes people nurture a kind of parasocial connection that is easy to trigger, and then they trigger it. Typically, they will tell you what a nice person they are, on repeat, which always puts me on guard. This is something that Lindsey never, ever does. She's way more likely to describe her stumbles, her mistakes, her blunders, for which I love her.
Lindsey's reviews are always fair. I'm sometimes quite happy with something that isn't up to her standards, and because her reviews are so comprehensive, I can judge when something that may not be perfect for her work will be fine for mine. She Is talented, entertaining, and provides an important service for consumers of art and craft materials. All while being extraordinarily nice... but never telling you that she is. Just saying.
It is just heartbreaking to think that anyone dare criticize you, one of the sweetest and kindest artists. You share your information so generously! As many have said, you were actually quite generous in your comments. It is NOT professional paint. Period. You actually helped many new artists because you helped them to learn how to analyze what they need. And this is what you have always done, it is why we are so thankful for you! You certainly pointed out many positive elements about the collection also. You are absolutely wonderful and authentic… we ALL love you!!!
I am not above criticism. If I get something wrong, I want to know, and I love people sharing their experiences with the products I review because those comments provide a more rounded view of the products. That is usually what happens in review comments section. This was something else. I hope the people who slammed me go and buy her products but sadly I think they were there to stir up drama. Hopefully everyone is calm now. I don't want people to think they can't disagree with me, I love respectful discourse.
I just watched your review of the Kristy Rice art supplies. It was honest and informative while being kind. People need to check their parasocial relationships. You are a professional artist and teacher, you know your stuff and you articulate your critique so well. Keep doing what you're doing.
I thought you were fair and kind in your review. Your really comlimented the empty tins especially! Makes me almost cry that people were so mean to you. I love your product reviews because they really help me decide what to try. You're the best!
Thanks, don't worry, I can let a lot of critics roll off, being called a lier tho, I won't tolerate it. 😉
I know the other person deleted comments and most of the vitriol was from that side yet it was being made out it was your commenters which I knew was untrue. That you don’t delete comments tells me a lot about your honesty and integrity. As I have said you are my top reviewer, you call a spade a spade. Now to move onwards and upwards and enjoy the rest of your weekend Lindsay 😊
Thank you!
I saw all of that craziness. And it was craziness. I watched her follow up video and she clearly said she respected your review. But the backlash was absolutely crazy. Having watched it all from both sides I can’t believe it. I agree with what you said and her disappointment was evident however, she stood behind your review. But wow, people, put that kind of energy into something that matters. Volunteer, do something kind for someone, paint . But do not ATTACK someone for giving an opinion that was asked for! My hobbies are art, mixed media, watercolor, etc. also reading. Due to disability nothing physical right now. Hopefully after hip replacement!😊❤Great Sat Chat!
I must say whoever picked “the golden years”, should have used rusty instead!🤣🤣
That's funny 😁 I'm sure you be back at it after surgery! Great hobbies!
Lol the “rusty years”, that’s about right 😂. I hope you love your new hip as much as I’m loving my “new” eyes (cataract surgery). Good luck 👍
Good luck on the hip replacement. I had both done last year due to hip dysplasia (in my 50s)--you can do this. Be sure to go to PT! 🙂
Very gracious handling of the elephant in the room, Lindsay. I surely hope it can behind everyone soon, but the mean people will always exist. Sometimes I feel very passionate about something and have to remind myself that there is enough negativity and I really don't need to add to it. Nuff said.
I sort of 'lost' my identity when I retired in 2022 and am working to reinvent myself, so I haven't quite worked out what that looks like but my hobbies are cardmaking and 'slinging paint' (watercolor), which is the best I can say about my attempts to paint 🤣But I keep trying!
I hope your weekend is superb! Thanks for all you do for the art community!
Thanks so much!
Oooo, I love the "lost my identity" comment after retiring. That's been literally me when I had to retire suddenly on my 40th birthday (10 years ago) because I was too ill to continue working ever. I have been looking for my identity ever since. It's definitely a WIP! Keep at it. I learn knew things about me every day, week, month, YEAR! I have to remind myself to enjoy the process so I hope you enjoy yours too.
But you are the architect of the rest of your life, which is a huge blessing. I am in the same boat as you and excited about all the new things on the horizon. Enjoy!
I swim and exercise with a group of women and men 3 mornings a week. Keeps us accountable. I crochet. I read. I watercolor paint. I propagate plants. I go thrifting for treasures to give as gifts or use or sell. I love retirement. ❤️
Great job! You are a Renaissance woman!
I teach piano to young and old people, I craft...cards and I'm exploring getting into art journaling, I read nov❤els and magazines, I am in a quilt ❤group, a coffee group, I travel twice a year to see a different part of our province, I'm in a group of people that are meet twice a year to socialize for 4 days and I create with paint, paper and embellishments and glue. I have a relaxed retirement but I nap as often as I choose. Am I a Renaissance woman??? I think so!!
Sandi, from Vanderhoof, BC Canada
Lindsay, I watched the review video you made and I felt you were kind and respectful, while being honest about the products. I always appreciate your honesty in reviewing products.
Good morning, I believe all your reviews because you explain why you are reviewing it the way you do. And not all are glowing, but factual for your style. You are a professional not just a weekend warrior sort of speak 😂
Oh thank you!
Thank you, Lindsay, sometimes, the truth hurts. ❤
Oh Lindsay, I’ve been watching your channel for YEARS! Your critiques are always both honest and earnest. What’s more, they are consistently methodical and comprehensive!
Keep on keeping on! All the very best hon. 🙌❤️🌿
Thank you so much!
I watched the review. I don’t see what the problem was. Your regular viewers support you.
Thanks for the mention about the different hobbies. I will check it out. For someone who was historically overworked myself, I am seeking ways to be deliberate in creating balance in my life.
The discussion about the 3rd spaces also sound pretty interesting.
Have a blessed week. Cheers.
Thank you!
Good morning Lindsay! You were spot on in the review and extremely kind as usual. People being people and I’m sorry that you are dealing with it. That’s all I’m saying about that! I so miss my sourdough starter :( Our daughter was dx with Celiac in ‘22 and I just haven’t embraced gluten-free bread. Good for my waistline, bad for my sourdough loving soul 😆
Oh no! I hope your daughter is doing well. Manytime vegan baked good are also made gluten-free to increase the customer base but I think it is a shame because if you are removing the gluten you need the binding structure and protein of something like egg I'd think. I use high gluten bread flour because the structure in improved. I wouldn't know how to do gluten-free. That said I could use less bread in my life (but it's so yummy!)
If you're into baking bread I can see if I can find a link to the recipe I use? My daughter had to go fully gluten free a few years back (as in not a speck of gluten in the house) and it took me ages to find something that resembled bread, lol. The secret seems to be using millet flour as a main ingredient (and also a bunch of stuff to hold everything together in place of the gluten!). I do miss making real bread but it turns out I can't do gluten either, lol, so it must be my genes were the problem 😔. I have heard of people making gluten free sourdough although I haven't tried it yet.
@minkg8178 thanks for the offer but I probably wouldn't use it. Also links get often get kicked out but you you want to mention the name or website for others who might want it you can:)
Your review was MORE than fair. Clearly you hit a nerve with your review and sometimes the truth hurts. Thank you for your honesty and integrity.
I am looking into learning gouache and the first place I come is here for an honest review of products. You are who I trust for a quality review. Makes me stay away from the maker of the paints you reviewed. You did a great job, don’t stop. You are a true professional.
You are so welcome!
I don't think it was a Kristy issue, personaly, but rather some of the more rabid fans. I don't watch Kristy as often as I watch Lindsey (personal painting style preference) but she seems like a genuinely lovely person who loves watercolor and wants other people to also love and have fun with it.
I stand behind you, since I started watching you in 2016- when I started on this art journey. It’s your honesty and balanced commentary that keep me committed to you. And the best part is After your review I am still interested in buying her set to have fun - which is the whole idea of her collection, but now I know what to expect.
Stans and trolls are such a waste of everyone’s time. I am so sorry you had/have to endure this. Much respect to you. ❤️❤️❤️
Wow, thank you 😊
I think you are always Fair and Diplomatic when you do a review. Keep your chin up! Thanks Lindsay!!
Thanks 😊
This steamed me! I watched that entire video of the products you reviewed, & I concurred 100% with your comments, as I've both purchased & used these art supplies. I think you held back significantly from what I would have said. You were kind, & generous in your assessments, & said NOTHING unkind, Lindsay! I am so sorry you got attacked over this review, but PLEASE do not let that stop you from honest reviews in the future!!! I absolutely rely on them! We all do. People--come on, we're adults!
Thank you 😊
Wow, people actually came for you. I know who you're talking about and I know what video of theirs sparked this backlash; she was very kind about what you said about her products, IMO. I didn't actually see your video reviewing them, but I saw her 'just got of out the hospital video' etc. What reviews of yours I have seen, I appreciate very much.
P.S. As a newbie, I thought it was just me who didn't see her paints as professional, so I'm glad to see it's not just me after all.
Yeah, it was wild. I thinknit was just bored people stirring drama for dramas sake. I hope nobody honestly thinks I would be mean to another artist. So weird.
Great way to address the backlash. People can be cruel and I think social media has given cruel minded people this platform to spout crap and have no repercussions for what they say. I can’t understand it. I am currently trying to figure out the best way to paint on top of an acrylic pour my friend made on a raw piece of wood.
Wow! You are a perfect example of emotional intelligence! You handled this situation with honesty and grace. I love that you speak from the heart without throwing darts back.
I love your reviews and have used them to decide on many purchases and will continue to in the future. Thanks for all you do!🥰
@jackigarcia2819 you can do an isolation coat of matte medium so if you make a mistake you can wipe it off without harming the poured layer then follow up with a varnish
@@thefrugalcrafter Thank you!! I will. I appreciate you taking the time to advise me. I like the fact I have some leeway for errors! Super helpful. Thanks again.
Lindsey, YOU ARE AMAZING. I have been watching you for so many years. Because of you I have learned so much about art, color(my favorite), tools of the trade, what i like and don't like, and just overall feeling like I am right there with you. It's sad that even as adults we still act like children. Your laughter is infectious and thats what i love about you. THIS IS NOT A SUCK UP. JUST FACTS!!! Thank You, Thank You, Thank You. Keep up the amazing work.
Thanks!
By the way I also wanted to thank you for the review you did on the Jarlink pencil sharpener. I finally got one and I just love it. I have had trouble with my hands for years and this helped me tremendously.
I completely appreciate you and Kristy and will continue to watch you both. I love both your channels, painting styles and knowledge. I still want to get Kristy's palette and still get your recommendations. Painting and crafting is all about creativity and therapy for me. Thank you for being you. ❤😊
Hi, Lindsay. I love that you are using your favorites this year. I would love to see more Neocolor II projects, too! :) What I do like about you is that you give your HONEST opinion. You are not doing anyone a service if you gloss over things and don't point out things that you feel are important to us. You save us ALL a lot of frustration (and MONEY!) by doing these reviews. RE: the Pyrex - that happened to me TWICE (Years ago). I sent you an article as to why it may have happened. Sometimes having a home-business takes so much time that we can't develop other hobbies or socialization. It is difficult to find a balance. Especially where I live (in a very rural area). I do love listening to mystery stories on audiobooks and that is my preferred form of watching TV. Although I try to do other things like drawing (personal - not for work) while "watching" if I am too tired. I also love needlework and beadwork. I embroider at night with the TV on and love intricate needlework. Much of it is my own designing. And I love to go for walks with my partner. We live in a beautiful area with the sea nearby as well as many wooded paths and lakes. And I do cook and enjoy that. So it is quite a full life. Thanks for reminding us of the possibilities. I haven't been as vocal here with you as much because it has been a hard couple of months. But I need to come back and interact more with my artist friends. Both the inspiration I receive from you and hopefully that which I can offer helps us all. Have a great week!
Thank you for the article! I'm glad my pets were nice need me when it shattered, there was shrapnel all around the kitchen! Have you found and neat stuff washed in on your shore? I hope you are feeling better. These short, cold days can add to anyone's stress and maliase.
@@thefrugalcrafter Yes. When my two exploded - they did that - exploded. :/ I do find lovely bits and pieces on my shoreline. I have a cup with lots of pretty beach glass for a project 'one day'. LOL When I lived a little up the coast in Digby, I found much more pottery pieces and stuff like that. Some of the plate chips, etc., you could even read the makers' mark. But when I moved, I got rid of the box of treasures. Once at Sandy Cove (on Digby Neck) we found an old SCROLL SAW washed up on the beach! (WTH???) I will send you a pic of that. It was outragous and fascinating. We have the highest tides in the world here as you may know, and it caused lots of shipwrecks back in the day. So there is new treasure unearthed continually. :) Anyway - have a great weekend!
Ooooo I’m so excited that you interviewed Sarah Burns!!! I can’t wait to hear that!!!! 🎉
I also loved the renaissance person conversation! I love that idea!!!
Lindsay, you are fantastic. One of the reason I started watching your videos several years was your direct, honest approach. I knew I could trust your reviews and what you were teaching. You encouraged checking out products and forming our own opinions. You taught us and encouraged us to check out the way others artists worked with the materials and techniques. Without your input I for one would have been lost when buying watercolor supplies. It was a new medium for me and one I avoided because it had a mind of its own, which was one of things I like about it but it intimided me. Thank for your openness and guidance. Now one of my down falls became... Lindsay said this paint, etc is great and look what she did with it so I had to buy it. 😅 I eventually realized it was ok not to have all the art supplies I saw. I heeded your words and learned to use what I had. By then I had lots of supplies. I have drawn a hard line for myself not to buy anymore till I use what I have. Now that doesn't mean I won't buy paints, etc but I now pull out what I to see if I have something comparable. If I don't use it all my daughter will inherit all of it. I spread the watercolor bug to her. Her art is amazing! Keep doing what you have been doing.. There always going to be negative people. Had to laugh at ..don't say or write anything you don't want on the front page..my words not your exact words. I had a beloved aunt that told us over and over.. don't put anything on paper you don't want on the front page of Shreveport Times Herald.. now it includes our words that can be heard on video and other photos or videos taken by random people. Almost everyone has a phone with a camera so we never know if we are captured on candid camera. There are many unkind and judgemental people in the world. Over look them. There are also many kind and caring people in the world and you draw many of to be creative. Hang in there, dear friend!
Thank you:)
I watched Sat Chat and was still thinking about this after so I had to come back! I love your reviews because you state exactly what your opinion is. You are kind about it, but you want people to know what you think about it based on all of your years of experience. You state who you think the product is for and not for- and I think the nasty reviewers are forgetting that there is no one product that will work for everyone. You dive into the nuances and help people figure out how to spend their money wisely.
I know you haven’t sourced your own products, but you have put your name on collections, and you give us the pros and cons of everything as you see it. People seem to forget that everyone can have their own opinion based on their own experiences, and there’s nothing wrong with sharing that in a kind way. Speaking your true feelings can often take a lot of courage, and I appreciate that we always get honesty from you! ❤
Thank you, I'm not perfect but I try!
....Essentially bullying you, Lindsay, for an honest review. It says more about KR and her fan base than anything. Super sensitive and immature. A very big turn off for me (not interested in her channel to begin with, but definitely not interested now). Keep your integrity, Lindsay. We count on your honesty. Just ignore the drama and the rest of the trolls. (Don't stoke the fire and it'll eventually die down on its own.) Keep your sanity. It'll blow over. Thank you for your content. And hang in there!
During the pandemic, I dug out my old Grumbacher academy paints from undergrad and started playing with watercolor again after many years. Then I found your videos. I've followed your channel since then. I look to your review along with a few others whose opinions I've grown to respect to help inform my decisions when I started buy professional level supplies. I've refined my own preferences within my budget range now, but reviews like yours have saved me a great deal of money and frustration in the beginning. They have also helped when picking presents for family in that student or hobby level grade art supplies.
There are so many options out there and supplies are expensive on my meager salary. Just what country you live in makes a difference in picking affordable supplies, then the pandemic madness... geesh. Thank you for all the wonderful, informative videos you continue to share with us.
I enjoy watching Kristy's channel too. Her joy for painting is refreshing. She also presents technique and practice exercises that are accessible to beginners in her own fun style, that are not the old-school formal style I had in undergrad. But for upgrading supplies, I'm not her target audience and that's ok. If I'm buying for family or a friend, I would be. It's complicated. 🙂 I also watch a lot from Margot Hallac (Pointebrush). I enjoy her classism and quirky humor (and sigh over the A Gallo paints I can't yet afford...). Different target audiences, even artists that specialize in other media like ink and flex nibs, acrylic paint, colored pencils, traditional drawing, mixed media, and miniatures. My subscription list is pretty long, but you're at the top. You are consistent, honest, fair, and open about any possible bias (for example if an item was given to you at no cost to review). You explain your reviews very well without the audience having to have a lot of in depth knowledge of how things are manufactured in order to understand. You help the flow of "happy crafting". Thank you!
I appreciate that:)
Lindsay you did an amazing job on her review as you always do.
Kristy made the most manipulative video I have seen on RUclips. She made all
If this personal, she said that you were editing your followers comments and deleting them. She also made it sound like you attacked her, which is laughable if you watch the video.
She made a professional situation sound like it was A personal attack and her followers went nuts to defend the pouting and almost crying Kristie.
It was just sad she felt the need to go that route instead of just being gracious.
It is because of comments like this from both communities, Lindsay’s and my own, that I chose to speak up. I will not take lightly to being accused of manipulation. Please do not cherry pick my words from my live, out of the order and context from its filming.
@@KristyRice Lindsay is a professional and everyone knows it. She gave you a more than kind review of your product and instead of being grateful and professional back, you chose to film a video of you being absolutely Unprofessional. You don’t need anyone’s comments to do any damage, you did it all yourself. You said that this was Personal, and that Lindsay edited her community’s comments. This is all false. You do this but she does not. My comments have been removed from your sites before. I was on your live when you rolled out your paints and you knew very, very little about your product. This is also very unprofessional and show me you are not interested in giving solid art supplies to your “friends” but rather want to make money as they are double the price for the same paints you can buy anywhere. As for your video, it was like watching a bad b movie. You were obviously trying to get your “Friends” to not listen to the truth and what Lindsay a true artist and professional has said but to rather come defend poor Kristie who is almost crying on her video. Seriously, this is absolutely so unprofessional.
I did not make you not know about your products when you rolled them out. I did not make cheap brushes that broke or fell apart within weeks of using them. I did not ask someone else to review my art supplies and then when it did not go so well BLAME THEM FOR NOT CONTACTING ME TO MAKE SURE THAT THE INFORMATION THAT I SENT HER WAS IN FACT WAS THE CORRECT INFORMATION! That was a joke. I also did not respond so childish and make this all personally when someone did not like everything about my products.
If you don’t want to be accused of making manipulative videos, then watch the video you just made and don’t make any like that again, either that or take some acting classes, because that was soo bad.
I had nothing to do with your actions which everyone including your “friends” have also noted, I just spoke up on my interactions with you and how shocked I was that you were launching with such little knowledge of your product.
You are the only one that has been digging this grave since the beginning. Making cheap products and calling them professional, and then justifying how you call them Professional. Creating your own rules doesn’t make things true Kristy.
You can get as angry as you want and blame as many of Lindsay’s followers as you would like. Truth is you showed your true colors and everyone has now seen them. Now you get to live with the consequences of your choices… cheap paper in your books, cheap brushes, cheap paints called professional and all way overpriced. As for cherry-picking, you should rewatch your video. You said those things yourself.
I am done responding to this silly high school situation. If you can’t act like an adult and own your shit, then don’t. Continue to blame others for your poor choices. I am done with you and this waste of time. You can give that a Boop!
I am so sorry you had crazy Kristy stans in your comments! You are one of the most authentic and truthful product reviewers there is. l can't find the nasty comments anymore cause they got drowned out. ❤ I'll tell you a secret: I liked Kristy's philosophy at first, but I had to unsub because of her clickbait, overly opinionated opinions, and a rude, snarky comment reply she made to me. I don't even remember what it was now, just that it turned me off to her forever 🙂
I had to usub for the same reasons. Maybe she will learn from this experience with this review.
I went to her channel and was going to subscribe, until I watched her recent live where she kept saying her and Lyndsay were cool,but she was clearly NOT cool with her because she kept making little snide remarks about her. It totally turned me off to her channel.
@@user-bg4qj2zu3mI agree and I'm going to unsubscribe for the reasons stated here. Yuck.
@@user-bg4qj2zu3m yes.this!
❤️❤️❤️❤️peace! You do you, Lindsay! Always here for what you bring! I actually snorted at the pitchfork comment! I needed that! You are awesome!
Thanks 😊
I saw your review and I thought it was quite positive overall, and your criticism was fair and gentle. You have nothing to apologize for! I’m so sorry that people lashed out at you.
I have been watching your videos for some time. I have learned so much from your tutorials. I enjoy your sat-chats, and I always appreciate your reviews.
I appreciate that!
My wonderful sister gave me a gift certificate to sign up for a pottery class. Always wanted to learn how to work on a wheel. It starts next month and I seriously can’t wait. You kind of inspired this with your own pottery. Thank you Lindsay!
Wonderful!
Oooh I love Mina Le!! And thanks for sharing the idea of a Renaissance person and embracing various hobbies. I liked the categories 😊
And I think you were very clear, kind, and consistent in your review (as always). Its why so many of us trust you! Thanks for a wonderful sat chat as always!
You are so welcome!
You are always honest and kind, we know that! I have bought and not bought supplies on your word because you do use the materials and give feedback on the products. People could find more productive use of their time instead of just being negative. You are wonderful!
Thank you so much!
You were honest, respectful and kind in your review. Keep up the good work!!
I appreciate that!
All I can say is “keep doing you”! I think that’s why your reviews are well respected in this community because you are very honest. Art supplies are expensive and we can’t get it all and we can be persuaded by someone just telling us what we want to hear to go out and buy it but in reality they may be a waste of money. By the way I’m not saying her products are a waste of money, I’m actually buying some of her stuff because of your honest review.
I think what it was also that her fan base were upset with your review. It’s kinda like all fans are “momma bears” when you talk about there children lol. Not that you were talking bad about their child but when they didn’t hear what they wanted to hear they came unglued.
I agree:)
I agree too! The part of your review that I appreciated most was when you were trying to figure out the manufacturer. I don't have any of the three sets you used for that portion, but if I did, it'd be helpful to self curate a similar set until I could save the money for the set being reviewed. No buys are HARD when the want monster is rearing its ugly head. Lol😂😂😂
Lins you were 100% fair on your review. People are just crazy and hear what they want.
Well you taught me watercolor and now i want to branch out to oils. So in February I start oil painting in a gallery owners class near by. Im so excited about it.
Glad I could help! Have fun in your class!
I saw the posts involved in the situation you referred to. You and the other you tuber have been most professional - you can be proud of the way you’ve handled the situation. Good job!
I appreciate that!
thank you mentioning the other youtuber. She did respond professionally to her audience.
Gentle hugs 💕 I saw your review and you were kind, gentle, and honest 💕 I’m excited watercolor, gouache, oil pastels, and oil sticks!💕 Thanks so much for experimenting with fixative’s for oil pastels! It is a game changer!💕 I’m enjoying your podcast. Looking forward to next one💕 Doodling in my sketchbook helps me get started when it’s dark and cold and lifeless.😅 after sometimes hours of meditation. 💕 Resilience 💕 Thanks Lindsay 💕
You are so welcome!
It’s easy to hate people or groups that we don’t know but when I look into their eyes, I can’t hate.
I heard this and it lives in me now.💕
Love that!
Girl, we’re going through some crazy times! Just to let you know, before I make a purchase I always check your reviews and can honestly say I have never been disappointed over the years!
Thank you!
You have always been upfront and honest with us. Some people are SO sensitive.
Hi Lindsay. I am one of your very new subscribers and found you through your 'Best student grade paint' video. Around the same time, I found the referenced RUclipsr as well, but I just gravitated towards your channel more and subscribed. Just after watching a couple of your vids anyone would say how no-nonsense, no-drama kind of a person you are, who are in this space just for the love of art. So keep staying true to yourself. You're awesome :)
Awesome! Thank you!
NE weather has been crazy these last few months. I hope Spring normalized things and we get the weather we are used to. I felt so bad for both of you. People just feel compelled say unkind things nowadays and it is sad. Much ❤from NH. Have a great week!
Thank you!
Authenticity is very important to me, Lindsay, you're one of the few channels I can say is not a sell out. Thank you for your honest reviews and your transparency!
You are so welcome!
Lindsey, I saw both your post and the other you tuber and I must say You were extremely kind, gentle and honest. Please keep doing exactly what you are doing. You are awesome!!!
Thank you so much!
My winter painting is about creating birthday cards for my family which is fun for me to give throughout the rest of the year. I also explore using multi mediums to create together in ways I haven’t before without buying more stuff this year. Lately I’ve started with a junk journal which is new for me-it’s freeing. One other thing I do each year - usually in the Fall- is paint a unique Xmas card for each of my grandchildren along a common theme (makes it easier to track from year to year) and then write in memories from that year specific to them. I include a couple of printed photos. I have done this for over 20 yrs so the older kids have a little log of their life in this way from G’ma.
That's a fantastic idea!
Just wanted to share that I purchased a set of markers Lindsay reviewed. They are excellent! I took them to school for my 4th graders. The markers have been used and sadly a bit abused…and they’ve held up! They are the favorite art supply in my closet. I bought them because of the clear detailed review Lindsay gave. She didn’t review them with elementary kids in mind (assumption 😅) but I knew my money would be well spent. Thank you for helping people spend money wisely.
Thanks for sharing!!
Happy Saturday Lindsay! Sat chat always interesting. Thanks for always being honest. I've learned so much from you.
You are so welcome!
Your review was fair and kind. All of this craziness is uncalled for. Shocking.
I love the chalice of grapes! I can't wait for that critique club tutorial!! I can't believe you were able to get those reflections looking like that!!! Mind blown 🤯
Thanks! I am enjoying working on it with some favorite supplies!
@@thefrugalcrafter Lindsy, could you rec9mend what colors of pan pastels could we buy first?
@MichisCrafts80 if you can afford it the painting set of 20 offers the best value. You can mix all the colors you need (I only used that set in my painting, video coming soon) and it come with some tools and sponges. Shop around at block, Jerry's and amaxin for the best price. If you ate going open stock choose colors you like for backgrounds as you can use them with other media.
@@thefrugalcrafter thank you for the tips, you always take care of my wallet! I am still a little shaken for the coments, but You did good, just clarifying your point with no names, and then go on! I am waiting to hear from both you and sarah burns! Yay!
Happy Saturday all! I am sitting on my enclosed porch and looking out at a fog bank! But it is inspiring me to do some knitting! I am sorry you got any backlash over that review. I watch both of you, and found your review fair. I didn’t think her fans would get so irate about it. It does show that we all love our podcast family and will come out to support in thick and thin! I loved the idea of those other videos you mentioned and am off to watch them now. I will be looking forward to knitting during the podcast with Sarah. Have a great rest of your week.
Happy Saturday, Lindsay! I laughed at the title of today's video. I have been thinking of you this week. I hope you didn't lose too much sleep over all of this! Your review was fine, and I know you know that. You're a good, honest, and fair person, and I know I can always trust your reviews. If KR has been following you for any length of time and/or watched any of your reviews, she had to have known how the review was going to go. And she knows her followers and how they have been with previous reviews of her paints, so she knew exactly what was going to happen when she sent them over to watch your review.
I have some work to do on myself. I am an introvert, but pre-covid, I volunteered at an early years center I used to visit with my daughter when she was small. Covid kind of turned me into a hermit. I need to force myself to get out there and be social. I have tons of hobbies, though. For mental, I would say genealogy, and reading about pigments and native plants. For physical, gardening and walking. For artistic, I have too many artistic hobbies to count, so I am good for that. 😂
I love Sarah Burns, so I am looking forward to your podcast!
Thanks for the pep talk! 🥰
Thanks so much:)
I watched that review Lyndsay. You were nothing but kind, fair, and professional as you always are.in your reviews. People who say mean and unkind things about others, should look at themselves first. Sending a big bear hug and some sunshine from Perth .🤗💖
Thank you! Enjoy some sun for me!
I am so sorry you have had to deal with backlash over your review. I started my watercolor journey with the products you reviewed and gave up because I wasn’t having an easy time. However that brought me to you and I am so happy you are my #1 go to teacher. I am looking forward to the watercolor play date. 😊
Thanks for sharing!!
On another note - I hope you keep a list of all your Sat chat titles, they are absolute gold! I am still laughing, even as I type this comment, about the Panic at Disco reference.
And yet another unrelated comment - saw a T-shirt meme that reads Panic at Costco. 🤣🤣🤣 . I want !
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I'm a lurker on your channel - but I just want to say that the reason I watch you is because your reviews are kind, but honest. Thank you for being you - I'm so sorry people are rude and inconsiderate and it is clear that you feel bad, but I really don't see why you should, as you have done nothing wrong, and you are not in trouble in this community. ♥
Aww, thanks 😊
What a mad mad world getting worse people are crazy . Your channel is always on the up and up I've loved it for years❤.
I appreciate that
@@thefrugalcrafter your the best artist lindsey🙂💗💗
Good Saturday morning Lindsay. Sorry to hear about the negative comments that you received , I saw your product review and I thought you were fair and kind about it also, I guess you can't please everyone no matter how hard you try! 😉 A friend of mine is going to give me some sourdough starter this week, I'm excited about that. As for this winter, I plan to create more in my art journals, I have so much fun playing and creating in them! And it is time to go through my stash to see what I have and also clean my craft room as I go a long. Thanks for today's Sat Chat , always a pleasure. 🥰 Have a great weekend.
Lindsey, all your reviews including the one referred to are exactly why we watch you. You give a professional review on all supplies. You are always spot on about everything you say about the products you are reviewing including this one!. I'm glad you stand by your review! I'm defiantly a renaissance man (woman 😉) I'm in 2 watercolor zoom painting groups, I love to bike ride, RV Travel with my husband, I make jewelry with beads, clay and resin, I practice calligraphy, watercolor, and I create many crafts with my Cricut, I've played a certain game on my phone for about 2 years (Does that count for challenging the mind LOL?) Anyway Love your channel 💕
Nice! Rock on!
Ive been a subscriber since 2916. You have taught me so much. You are always fair and give so much information for us to make the best choice in our purchases. Thank you for your honesty and hard work you are a true gem Lindsay. Best wishes from Australia
Wow, thank you!
Me too I watched the review! Totally transparent kind and fair. I liked products! Especially the brushes. Thank you for sat chat and so sorry drama infected so much of your week! Appreciate you! ❤
You are so welcome!
Great sat chat, as per usual. Yeah who thinks about oven mitts😂😂😂. My husband sure doesn’t and a number of my good dish towels have scorch marks! I agree about no places to get together for an activity. I work and I was invited to go to a watercolor meet up at a local club…they meet the first Monday of every month, and have lunch. I work every Monday and really don’t want lunch, unless we paint first. They paint after, or used too. I am a morning person and feel most creative then, some times I work on a current project in the evenings. It’s hard, that’s why I like RUclips and teachable, but it would be nice to meet like minded people. Maybe when I retire. Thanks again for an enjoyable sat chat!
You are very welcome!
Lindsay, I watched your video on Tuesday morning. You gave a honest review and that’s always your intention. I found no part of your review snarky or spicy. Thank you for always keeping it real. ❤
Thanks for sharing!!
Your reviews are honest, thorough and caring. This review was the same. It was honest, informative and Kind! I’m sorry some people went crazy. You don’t deserve that at all. I trust your reviews more than any others. 💜💜💜
I appreciate that!
Morning Lindsay! I’m so tired of this rainy weather! Missing snow days! I am working on February birthday and valentine cards in watercolor. I am not sure I am a full renaissance person. I meet with an art group once a week for oil painting. I play the piano. I’m hoping to restart learning crochet. I do crossword puzzles and words with friends with family and friends. Missing activity like exercise. Hoping to get back to walking if this rain ever stops! LOL. Enjoying the podcasts. I love Sara Burns, so it should be a good one this week! Have a great week.
Thanks! I think it was a good interview, I had fun anyway!
Sarah Burns! Im excited for the podcast! One of my fav youtube artists.
She is fantastic!
IMHO it seems to me that maybe Kristy should have asked for a private critique. She knows Lindsay's honest and direct approach and should have been prepared to handle candid criticism of the paints. It seems to me the only part of the review that wasn't glowing was the paint quality.
Watching Kristy's response video she said a few things that could be interpreted as encouraging (or at least not discouraging) her followers and their agitation. A few things stuck with me after seeing it. For one, she said that Lindsay should have let her know that the pigment information wasn't on the packaging. I'm sorry but she's a professional and she should have made sure that the product being reviewed was all in place correctly. She also implied that the swatching was not done properly and said something like "come on people" like Lindsay didn't do her due diligence. And then there was a comment about her product is her and she is her product. That statement right there makes anything that Lindsay says a personal judgement about Kristy which it wasn't.
Dear Lindsay I think you did a wonderful job and if I want an honest review I go to your channel and I am sorry this happened to you. It is more about them than about you, you are marvelous! Love and light to you!
I don't know what is wrong with society these days!!! I feel you are truthful with your reviews and that is your experience with a product. Not everyone may have the same experience with the same products for one reason or another. Some people just like to tear a person down because they have to much time on their hands and that is their hobby. I appreciate you sharing your talent in many different areas. I hope you can ignore the hurtful comments!!! I treasure the time I can watch and learn from your posting!!!! Many Thanks!!!!!!!!
Thanks 😊
Lindsay… I saw the review, of course… it was an honest and fair review! It helped me immensely! I had been wondering about the products for a while. You using them and talking about them was valuable information!
You did your job, and I thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
@@thefrugalcrafter ❤️
Happy Saturday Chatterday 🥰🥰
I LOVE your reviews and if I’m being honest you were extremely kind with your words (in that review) but you WERE also VERY honest, it’s what you do it’s why I enjoy your channel and your company. Your honesty is always a breath of fresh air.
Enjoy your weekend 💕
Thank you! You too!
Forgot to mention that I love the Ren man/woman/person…(possibly my dogs might be included…😂)
Thank you!! You got me (as you do majority of the time on Saturday) and I just laughed out loud at “pretend your grandmother is reading your comment”…
Great way to end this…I’m still chuckling and will be for the rest of the day ❤
I'm so glad!
I have bought things that you reviewed and never thought that what you said about it was untrue, you are truthful and I believe what you say about art supplies! Love you!
I heard someone say recently that "beliefs control emotions". Seemed like that was case with some of the heightened reactions to your product review, especially if one snippet was different than their already held belief. You've demonstrated over the years time and time again that you are conscientious and give fair, well-informed reviews. You do a great job, Lindsay and are much appreciated.
Thanks!
I remember a “chain mail” with starter for bread I got in the 90’s. 😊 you make me want to learn to bake bread 🥖
You should!
@@thefrugalcrafter I think I just might. 😊
You are both awesome creators and I love you both. I’ve learned so much from the videos you both produce and enjoy watercoloring more than ever because of the encouragement in your different ways. I watched both of your videos on the subject and found nothing to criticize. It’s hard to stop nasty people from trolling and spewing their nastiness. It must be ignored on both sides. And then move on. I think you both handled it really well and need to spend no more time the actions of those you have no control of.
God Bless you both and please keep on doing what you’re doing. I’d love to see you and Kristy do a project together. That would be awesome. ❤️
Thank you:)
This is the busy time of the year for my business so I've missed a few videos. Boy. Looks like i missed the drama. I'll have to catch up! 🎉 you go girl. I might not always agree with your reviews (sometimes I think youre too nice) but i believe you are fair and honest. And I am confident your negative comments are always fact based.❤