Forging and Testing a Mild Steel Armor Plate - Overpowered!
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it blows my mind how much work effort and skill it takes to make a flat piece of quality metal.
In old times there would have been a team of strikers all pounding in unasyn, one right after the other. watching a striking team is impressive.
Friis Forge you mean unison
at the beggining of the first hobbit movie in the bit about the dwarves you can see 5-6 of them pounding some steel with this technique, if you are interested
power of unasynity...
Onision.
just a tip from a bladesmith. it's better long term to not have a glove on the hand you hold the hammer with. it forces you to hold it tighter and can cause tendinitis or other issues down the road
BLEVINS117 I spent a day forging with a glove...didn't go well, my wrist was sore for a week
Well it depends. If you have fitted gloves it's not an issue. But a modern off the rack S,M,L glove at Lowes will definitely force you to grip harder due to the bad fit.
I've never had the fortune of getting a bespoked fitted pair of work gloves but I had some fitted gloves given to me that were 'mistake' ones that just happened to fit me nearly perfectly. And since they fit so well they also don't wear out as fast as the leather doesn't roll around rubbing on itself or surfaces.
Given that all apparel was bespoke back then and it was more a matter if you (or your lord) could afford it.
BLEVINS117 can confirm this as a concrete carpenter. My right hand is much weaker than it used to be due to tendonitis caused from using workgloves with hammers. Safety regulations and rules typically force us to wear gloves though
The best way to forge is to put a glove on the hand you hold the tongs with and have your other hand for fast and easy motion so you also dont throw a hammer, another tip is that if you have a real anvil of good heavy weight going straight to concrete or solid ground it will rebound when hit and make the hammer bounce, hence if you hold the object your forging where it wont be in a bind on the anvil you will get rebound causing you to do less work and not wear yourself out in a matter of minutes.
@@jacobpage5194 when forging a glove in the hand is unsafe because the hammer can slip easily
*Blacksmithing increased to 11*
Skyrim....PTSD is coming back
I vividly remember having waking dreams about enchantment and blacksmithing , including running out of soul gems, to go out and kill animals to get them, then going back to my house and leveling enchanting. Yes in a dream.
Had the same sort of thing multiple times lol. Sometimes about running out of iron but not being able to any veins and all of the blacksmiths were out of stock O.O
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Now I'm imagining someone in a great big suit of armor with just sparks and splintered arrows bouncing everywhere around them.
except that guy would still be in pain
Better in pain than being dead.
@@dizzyheads the biggest warbows in reality still had less energy at point blank range (obviously the term muzzle velocity would be a misnomer here but it's the same thing) than a .22LR out of a pistol let alone a rifle. And much of that energy may be deflected as the armor is of course designed to deflect as much impact as possible. in other words, not that painful if at all.
Actual numbers: a 170lb bow (massive) firing a 65 gram arrow (also massive) only has 97 ft lbs at point blank range. That's what .22LR out of a 4 inch barrel has after 100 meters.
In my mind this doesn't downplay war bows one bit but rather gives a new appreciation of how much more powerful modern rifles are than them. Rifles 30 times as powerful as the most powerful bows (and the .22 handgun) have been phased out of military programs for being too weak. Short chamber (the ones that only accept .308, can't fit .300 win mag) M24s and M40s in the US military for example.
@@cm01 kinetic energy isn’t a fair test for damage statistics regarding cutting weapons in general. Cutting weapons inflict damage on a target by the conversion of *Momentum* to Work rather than transferring kinetic energy. Momentum based projectiles will penetrate soft barriers (sandbags and flesh) deeper than even modern rifle rounds. A 1.25” broadhead will do so much more damage than a .22LR would do out of a full length barrel and penetrate so much more.
@@LocalDiscordCatgirl I don't dispute any of that, but the point I was making was to do with a plate harness, and inferior armors for that matter, and in that case the cutting weapons are just as wimpy as the kinetic energy would make them seem.
Holy crap! Armour is much more usable than I was led to believe.
So basically, knights were tanks on he battlefield with sparks flying off them every time they were struck.
Evilsamar knights were only able to be even challenged by other knights
Yeah, your chances of punching through solid steel plate + gambeson were pretty low. But remember that the person inside is still a soft, wobbly human being that breaks easily. One of those mace swings against your head and you'll be seeing stars, even though the armor is fine. And on a hot summer day, these things can become quite the cooking pots, which heavily strains one's stamina. Imagine fainting because of a heat stroke in the middle of a battle. Not the most glorious death.
Actually plate armour can cool down really well too. If the sun's shining on it, it's going to get hot, but if it isn't and there's a slight breeze, you might actually get surprisingly cold.
Evilsamar what you need to remember is that there are several plates of this stuff, your supposed to strike where the plates connect, that's the weakest points. however, later armor plates would overlap, getting past that problem, however, joints would still be the weakest parts
Evilsamar
Remember, it stops cuts and arrows well, but the human body is still absorbing all of the impact force.
Blacksmiths used to use wax and/or wool ear-buds as ear protection. At least thats what my grandfather who used to be a blacksmith told me.
In the Middle Ages they used wax it is mentioned in some books, still I don’t believe that helped a lot
@@anthuan2028 it would have preevented the ringing of the metal from damaging the ear. would have still been loud tho.
@@anthuan2028 Better than nothing.
@@titytitmk2738 probably would have still caused some deafness. Hell, most cooks I know (including myself) have hearing damage just from kitchen hvac systems
I work in a factory, you'd be surprised how much simply tying a bandana around your ears helps.
Can you post the full 2.5 hours of rhythmic hammering? It's so calming.
Vid for the 2nd channel? :)
Yes please... more hammering!
Skall should make a medieval / blacksmith ASMR channel ... actually, the sound of sword sharpening is pretty cool lol and LOL!
YEAH !
as someone with *some* forging experience, the way Skall is holding the hammer is enerving for me, sure it helps to control the tip but damn he's almost hitting his crotch all the time, he should be swinging it laterally to his shoulder on the outside of the body not the inside... I am deeply concerned about his groin...
I've been hit with a mass weapon while in plate armor. Plate armor worked amazingly well, but I was a black and blue mess the next day. Big bruise!
What weapon were you hit with.
@@castamere8144 A blunt weapon with an adequate amount of mass, Most probably.
Large bruising meant the armor did what it was supposed to do. It distributed what probably would have been a lethal blow across a large area so you didn't die!
"armor can be penetrated with a sword"
I'm laughing
Nippon steel can do it!
Holden Cross - *laughs in latin*
just make a draw cut across the breastplate: instant death according to hollywood.
says the man whose picture is a man wearing five million pounds of armor lol
what about a pole axe the most versatile weapon ever created
yeah, reminds you why it's always been easier to bludgeon an armored Knight into unconsciousness than to actually pierce their armour.
Afqwa and sell his sword and armor lol
@@dfunkers daggers are all fine and good but in a group fight which war mostly is you really cant wrestle your opponent since you will be left very open (assuming youre in an atleast somewhat tight line, in a looser fight you might be able to do it)
Daggers weren’t by any means the main weapon used and that’s for a reason you can’t pierce armour with a dagger as easily as you think so when they do get a knight to the ground they would usually put a sword to the neck eye or joints and just push
Or they wedge a dagger between the plates. Movies have convinced people that armor was not useful at all.
Incorrect, immortal here. Skilled warriors in the past were known to be able to cleave an armored man all the way in half. The armor was only worn as protection against arrows and filthy peasant mobs.
"One and a half inch ready for a pounding."
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"And now back to hammering."
"we worked on it for about 3 hours"
"The"
as a smith i love that you showed most of the footage and the hard work that goes into hand forging something that huge
if a mild steel armor plate is overpowered imagine a mild steel pommel
we're doomed
we should use a nokia for a pommel
but mild steel is not hardenable so its like the "weakest" steel
That would cut through planets , that is why it was never forged. If only Deathstar was made of 2 mm forged mild steel...
texteel that....that would mean the end of this world as we know it.
I was glad to see this test. I personally when 13 apprenticed till journeyman as a blacksmith. Many people don't know just how well a .08-.11% carbon plate can handle when it's impact treated. Now, it is far more flexible and has a lower yield strength than a case hardened piece, but it is quite able to handle impacts.
If your smith is experienced in case hardening, doing a test with that same plate would be great for viewers. If I'm not mistaken I saw on his channel that he did have a coal/charcoal forge which would be needed if he wanted to carbonize it in a historical manner. The older method I was taught used white charcoal(white has higher carbon and more carbon monoxide vs dioxide reducing oxidation when carburizing) lard, and clay. Shape the clay to the size of the plate with around an inch of excess. Coat starting from the center with lard and place an even coat of white/gray charcoal ground fine on it. The lard is to help stick it to the clay and keep it from moving. Plate the plate in the center and fold the 1 inch edges around the plate and seal the back with clay to encase it entirely. You want to get that plate to around 1100-1150C. Due to the thickness it shouldn't need to sit at that temp for more than 2 hours to give a good carbon transfer to the face.
Pull it out and let it normalize. If you were to quench it right away it would mostly form bainite. Clean it off and place it back into the forge and get it to around 1400C. You want to quick quench it in either oil or water, but you need it to rapidly cool to get it to form martensite or else it will not form quickly enough. Due to the rear of the plate not having carbon transfer it should maintain a soft backing with a hardened face reducing chances of the plate fracturing during impact testing.
It's worth a shot.
I love the sparks. Really puts on my mind that, on RPG games, I'll use that.
Time to bring the ballista
They would need something stronger to hold the plate in place. In many of the cases here, they just broke the stand or material holding the plate...
Or consider breaking the stand a death blow regardless of penetration
@@Carewolf i mean a real person wouldn't be strapped in place either
Ballista shooting pommels....
New modern weapon guys..
No need to thank me
It may or may not go through the armor, but the armor and the person wearing it will go through the nearest wall!
Thank goodness for modern steel rolling machines lol
And power-hammers
No kidding! That was a lot of work!
Is that you in the video?
Interestingly, power hammers appear to have been invented almost immediately after forging, water driven trip hammers were in use for thousands of years.
I guess ancient blacksmiths had better things to do than pound plate flat by hand.
Well technically it was some Monks in the Frank empire who devised water powered power hammers first. Absolutely awesome tech though. You can do so much with a watermill.
Haha it's so cool to see the bolts hitting and the splash of sparks flying!
That's something games rearely represent accurately!
I struggle to think of a game that shows sparks.
And it's so easy to be done with modern particle system
If I recall correctly War of The Roses had sparks when you thrusted on plate armour.
@@Friidom2 Games that have lightbing spells.
Fools: "Oh yeah, of course, you can pierce plate armor with a crossbow!"
Skallagrim: "orly naow"
wow just after Lindybeige's armour video a Skallagrim armour video!
Lacking in sketchy calendars on the wall though ^
History With Hilbert he can retake or edited that part of video, but he know how to pleased his subscribers.
Lacking female anatomy chart though.
Prarp Vadanathorn
Lindybege actually talked about female armor requireing the same propertys as male armor [maybe more domed chest sections and wider hip [making the waist tighter could increase mobility]]
next time try spray painting the plate so you can see the marks you leave a bit better
Cool to see some blacksmithing here! : )
5:27, I remember a time I was at the archery range when I was young, I had a 35 lb. compound and I managed to hit a nail in the sideboard with my arrow (carbon fiber, target points.) and the arrow hit a nail head. The point was pushed back into the shaft, and caused it to banana peel, the air pressure in side shooting the nock off the back. The guy who ran the range said he'd never seen something like that before
What about testing it with a gun? You did mention the renaissance era using such armor against guns
this
soft steel sucks at stopping bullets. The renaissance ones were hardened afaik. İt could stop a .45 maybe but i would count on it.
jose paolo Aranda i think he will do it
Plate armor was still used in WW1, for example machine gun operators would wear it since they were more exposed and it actually protected quite well against WW1 handguns and at sufficient range even some rifles, though at close range their benefit was questionable.
Forgotten weapons did tests with some reproduction trench armor.
there is no 'test' it is obvious a gun would penetrate it. in renaissance they did not wear armour to protect against guns but other harm, at extreme range maybe but at close range it is not question
I can imagine bowmen raging on the forums during the Middle Ages: WTF! pls, nerf armor, HATE DIS, too op, can't harm them, the game is like literally unplayable, don't have time to grind plates, DIS PAY 2 WIN!
Well to their happiness, archery is quite literally overpowered in most games (except for Dark Souls)
Jarl Bregadan Archery is actually one of the things that brought an end to the era of knights
@@buttered__toast_2899 lol no
@@buttered__toast_2899 Pretty sure that was guns.
@@braydenj1327 and the change from feudal system to the start of imperialism where rulers had power over more landmass and it became common to buy mercanery armies with pikes and crossbows and huge, really HUGE swords 'bidenhänder' or 'gassenhauer'. The over-all tactics and military standards changed. Specially since a significant number of high noble men in heavy armor on horsebacks died on the field in azincourt... Mainly against british longbow archery 🤪
It's really not just "here we have black powder - banish the knights from the field". They coexisted on the battle field for a long time. But eventually became obsolete in the first few hundred years from 1500a.d. on.
Maximilian the First "the last Knight" was the one to push military standards into ranks of a standing Army and said mercenaries rather than noble men and peasants who would be armed in war times but had little to no knowledge about warfair whatsoever.
My to cents... 🤣
If you're a crossbow bolt, or are disturbed by violence done to crossbow bolts, do not watch this video. This has been your trigger warning.
Thanks for the warning, the distorted bit to the lower left was the liver.
Yeah, that really hurt to watch
Jacob Clark I'd say that pun was more damaging than anything in the video.
I was triggered, so then I fired! Ba-Zing!
I am an attack crossbow bolt, Apache type.
I love seeing how much weight Skal lost, congratulations.
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*Price~ 10 Gold 25 silver*
I'll take it! I'll give you 11 gold coins I looted from the Dragon's lair. can you enchant it with some blunt resistance?
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I am surprised that a gay bartender, of all people, is interested in an armor like that :-)
00Trademark00 Ever heard of Man boobs? =)
I don't think it was too much footage, it gives one a great idea of exactly how much freaking work you had to put in!!
Imagine a full suit of Tudor era plate armour made out of AR500 steel complete with anti-spalling coating. You would be umstoppable.
Ye can't stop what can't move...
A Totally Ordinary Aubergine and a kevlar gambeson
That weight would be hard to handle. AR500 is one of the heaviest steels if I am not mistaken.
The density of steel is pretty uniform across alloys, it just needs to be very thick to be bullet proof, which is what makes ar500 plates heavy
You are right, I looked it up. All steels are similar in weight, but AR500 is one of the heaviest, just not a lot heavier than other steel.
AR500
Density (lb / cu. in.)
0.283
Stainless 400
Density (lb / cu. in.)
0.225
Behold! The plate of mighty fjollet steel, forged by mighty viking warriors in the land Canada.
not being able to penetrate plate armour was one of the reasons for large maces. you couldn't cut them but you could break bones through the armour
Main problem with hitting libs was dislocating joints. Its almost guaranteed that your shoulder will go off if hit with full force swing of halberd or poleaxe. Snapping neck is likely too if you doesn't wear specific type of helmet.
50millionOhms Actually they used the shock of the weapon To Break the armor Or hit them to the ground. Not to Break the bones neccesarily.
Steir Qwe uh. No, it's not guaranteed at all.
This is why parrying is such an important skill.
The blunt weapons like maces and War hammers were very dangerous where they have armor or not the fact is the most dangerous weapon 2 Armor is actually a knife or dagger corded by I believe medieval master called Meyer.
The knife or dagger can stab the gaps of armor.
As for blunt weapons remember nothing is completely guaranteed with them there is good padding under the armor.
It's actually hypnotic. I feel like if you posted all the footage I'd find myself having watched the whole thing an hour later.
oh yeah baby, keep striking that hot steel.
You're one of the few youtubers that make me anxious for the next video. Props to the blacksmith, he's incredibly talented. Pardon the possible english mistakes.
Armour works guys, it's been proven.
Great video Skall by the way.
Nope, armour doesn't exist. At least not when it comes to Hollywood. Metatron was right!
David Bodor its just decoration
That's why APFSDS was invented.
Emperor Protects: you meant to say, "That's why AP was invented" because saboted rounds are generally not used to kill humans or penetrate 1/10th inch mild steel plate. Open tip match 5.56 will go through this. Standard military ball will eat it for lunch.
0:09
*pounding intensifies*
2:04
finally no more pounding
2:05
*POUNDING INTENSIFIES*
Should've asked Knyght Errant on the average armour thickness :D
4:50 "First Shot!" Me: Another bolt bites the dust! :D
Read an interview with Terry English, a long time ago, he said the armour from some time periods was hardened to the point where he was breaking drills on some pieces he was hired to restore. He was trying to figure out how they did it.
Well, heat it up to a specific temperature, then rapidly cool it in brine. Sounds easy, very hard without a thermometer. Apart from that at times it would be also tempered which gave even more toughness.
Easy calculation
t = thickness
E1 = 55 joules
55 joules = KE required for 1mm mild steel 235 kJ/m2
E2 = E1*t^1.6
E2 = 55*2^1.6 = 166 joules
E2 = 55*2.5^1.6 = 238 joules
2mm = 166 joules (rule of thumb: double the thickness and you triple the KE)
2.5mm = 238 joules
You were not even close.
According to your other video that crossbow will only give you 33.57 joules
In other words, you have to reduce the thickness to 0.73mm if you want it to penetrate.
That is really cool!
Let us say you have something like slack-quenched medium carbon steel with 350 kJ/m2 as fracture toughness.
Now you divide 350 on 235. That's the coefficient for this fracture toughness.
350/235 = 1.489
Now you multiply this with, let's say 166 joules, the required KE for a 2mm plate.
166*1.489 = 247.23 joules.
Now, let's say this strikes at an 10° angle.
E2 = E1/cos(A)
E2 = 247.23/0.9848
E2 = 251 joules
I type in 247.23 divided on 10 and push the cos button and push =.
Now you know the formula for thickness, fracture toughness and angle of impact.
If you wanna do it all in one go you do it like this.
W = the coefficient
E2 = E1*t^1.6*W/cos(A)
PolluxVarangir hmmm. i guess i should pay more attention in math.
Whoa, this guy's sharp
P.S; Tbh i dont even know how to read what you just said lmao
ahh another problem that could be solved back then with math.
Prithee be careful
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Sebastian Durando I don't want to see m' work squandered.
0:32
"Because I've never had the memes to do that"
What did the meme lord himself just say?
That he was never able to seize the memes of armour production.
Kawaiiser Wilhelm II Von Hohenzollern
Well, at least he got the memes of pommel making.
Oh, and he is also good at throwing them.
I would totally just sit and watch a video of hammering hot steel, the sound and rhythm is mesmerizing. It's like one of those oddly satisfying things.
But a Katana, that has been folded 123456789 times, could cut it EASILY, guys! SUPERIOR JAPANESE CRAFTSMANSHIP :P
Only if there's the soul of 7 samurai forged within the blade too,then it can even cut through blocks of steel and dragons
And moons
*planes of reality
Cursed nippon steel (folded over 9000!!!!) blade are superior because of souls of samurais and countless victims cut down by them.
The Silver Dragon You forgot about a tank...
As someone who has forged knives during summer and winter break, I love this video. Thanks Skall!
*Ready For poundind ☞ ͡° ͜ʖ ͡° ☞*
I absolutely love videos of blacksmithing, and especially swordsmithing.
On hearing My Great Uncle when he taught me always made me put sheep's wool in my ears when we were hammering(I now use soft earplugs) but he said his father and his father before him used sheep wool(after all they had sheep on the farm so it was free)
not only was this a testament to armor it also was an unintentional testament to Zombie Tools.
that little amount of edge damage is incredible especially since its steel on steel contact
☺☺☺☺ That was striking, it really hits home. I approve of this impactful video!! ☺☺☺✔✔✔
Friis Forge You just had to 😁
Man you need a bigger anvil, btw nice job with that
booooooo
It really got the point across. I'm glad they took the time to bang out this video.
Ooh, good one.
I'm glad you make videos with friis forge, he has a really good channel and I wouldn't have found it otherwise.
yah, i hated working out...then i started blacksmithing. Im strong now. God I love smithing!!!!!!
skallagrim. I can very much tell you blacksmithing is a GREAT way to build strength and lose weight.
It's very satisfying to see your work do as you intended.
0:23 bro please swing that sledge harder and hold it lower it physically hurts me XD 😂
Skallagrim for your first forge attempt your strikes look true and well aimed
I've recently bought a forge & im having so much fun , its a great feeling turning a block or bar of steel into something deadly & beautiful
although I'm not sure my neighbours are to thrilled with the singing steel :)
Skall isn't experienced with armor because it doesn't have a pommel
If you cant make a good pommel joke don't do it. Put it on your T-Shirts Skall
A hammer is like a pommel on a stick.
But, Robert, you must throw the pommel for it to take proper effect and rightly end your foes. A pommel on a stick would do nothing more than bash their skull in - which, to be fair, would be quite effective, indeed, but not honorable. One must throw the pommel for one to be considered an honored member of the pommel throwing society.
Wōtan shhh just let us enjoy our memes
It's one of the most interesting recent videos! More blacksmithing please!
liked the vid Skalla, but once again you never inform us of the range you are shooting from against the target. Please start including range information for any range tests.
...well, i don't need all that stuff, just the range please. Wotan, send him your email, he can send all that other information personally to you. And, Skalla, put a little heart with a smiley face for Wotan.
...what would you know about my needs, Wotan!? You've been so cold toward me ever since I told you the Snider-Enfield carbine is for noobs. You just never think about me or my opinions. Some people....
Jeez, Wotan. Here I am slaving away all day, working hard on channeling a domestic conflict vibe, and you deliver a sub-par comeback about suicide? Now our audience will leave because you can't hold up your end of what was a decent bit.
Sorry folks we have to close down this production, as Mr.-lacks-a-funny-bone just ruined it for everyone.
Well, if anything Eric, you ended it. Wotan was trying to establish a new situation that could've been built upon. Instead, you decided to cut it short, frankly, as an audience member i'm disappointed you went with the easy route of ending the bit by blaming your partner for a fixable shortcoming.
fine! you got me. It's ALL true! This production has been plagued by financial troubles since the very beginning. I burnt it all down for the insurance money, see! and I would have gotten way with it too, if it wasn't for those audience members and their fixable-shortcoming feelings.
ps. I still want my range information, Skalla.
Armor forged from scratch, Instead of ready made sheets. Thank you for this. 👍💯
This really shows up those pathetic reality show "tests" where they fire at 0.5mm thick stainless steel breastplates and pretend like they've done something worthwhile.
Skel mentioned that the thickness of armor varied a lot, both with location it was intended to protect, and time. Thicker is better, but also heavier and more expensive.
Anime pfp you're opinion doesn't matter
Well you gotta remember, stainless steel isn't exactly terrible for armor...with good quality stainless steel, the armor could definitely survive crossbow shots and whatnot, though it's gotta be at least 1.5 millimeters (16 gauge) to be effective
@@larrydavison8298 From surviving examples, breastplates were usually about 2 to 4 mm in thickness around the middle, tapering to 1-2 mm at the edges. A front or back plate typically weighed between 4 to 8 pounds, making them similar in weight to ballistic plate protection carried by modern police and soldiers.
As for their effectiveness, Todd Workshop demonstrated a 14th century reproduction breastplate made from modern hardened steel (0.5% carbon content) with thickness between 2.5 to 1.5 mm thickness will stop or deflect bodkin arrows from a 160 lb longbow at even 25 metres.
While the use of modern hardened steel complicates things, we know from chemical analysis of museum pieces that late medieval armourers were carburizing and case hardening their armour pieces, giving them a varying layer of steel/iron that was hard at the face and ductile behind, similar to cemented armour used in 19th/20th century warships. The carbon content at the hardened face were measured at 0.8-1.2% carbon, which is not insignificant and likely enough to make them proof against penetration from most bows or crossbows used at the time.
@@kovona This is late, but I've needed to mention that the properties of modern steel to historical steel would be something to consider. Especially when it came to consolidating steel in the late middle ages, the grain of the steel would be structured like that of wood.
This is the sort of stuff I love about this channel. Thank you Skall
Everyone knows that KATANA would slice right through that armor like it was nothing!!! They destroyed sherman tanks in ww2 with katanas!!!
like a hot knife through butter. rofl
Matti Viisainen Civilisation Series? :D
Friis Forge like hot butter through a knife
How do you think Kamikaze worked? It wasn't the plane that caused the damage on the ships, it was the pilot with a katana.
Matti Viisainen I genuinely hope you're being sarcastic...
you know to be fair, I enjoy two guys hammer a piece of glowing metal rhythmically... its... hypnotizing, and I could fall asleep to the pinging of steel. nice and ambient.
If you have a small piece of plate it will take less damage than a larger plate due to the force being better distributed.
Jonathan Woollett-Light That is why armors had several steel plates.
I'm simply pointing out the smaller plate seeming tougher is to be expected.
if you have a pommel to throw, no amount of armour plates could help you
Jonathan Woollett-Light yes, the damage is distributed to the body underneath instead. :P
I really like the collaborations with the blacksmith
Skallagrim: Reforged.
I wonder what Joergs new 300lb spear firing crossbow would do to this, or one of his air cannons- I smell a another collaboration...
SuicideNeil so Daily news can made "news" for them about RUclipsr made home made armor for riot and another one made armor pierching weapon.
Let me show you it's features hahahahahaha
and that is only mild steel!
some XV plate armor were made of tempered steel, with more thickness and overlapping pieces
Very nice of you, @Skallagrim, for forging my ultimate katana.
Well yeah, it works but... did you try throwing a pommel at it? I´m 100% sure it would break the plate.
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Glad to see your shoulder is feeling so much better!
Skallagrim should be on Forged In Fire.
This is a testament to the findings from the longbow vs plate armor testing that was done by Todd.
damn. shame about the death of all those bolts. never used a crossbow but im a ameteur archer and Arrows can be expensive lol, moreso with bolts im assuming.
I'm not sure about that, bolts basically just have to be sticks, whereas arrows have to have an extremely accurate delfection due to the archer's paradox
Very impressive. I'm a smith and I didn't think it would hold up this well. People don't give good ol' mild steel enough credit. I forged a knife from leftover bits from forging a spangenhelm, forged out from a big piece of steel, too. It's surprisingly tough.
wow i caught this one early
4:17
WOW. That looked so epic. Those sparks just wow. Like in the movies.
You need a 3rd hammer.
Great job, very dangerous without skill.
I'd engage videos that dig the thought deeper....display the origin of the topic as well as it's Alpha & Beta testing.
A tip of the Hat, for the effort involved in this production.
Blacksmithing looks like hard work, but also absolutely fascinating. Hope you show more on the subject in the future.
Man... I don't know why they insisted on polishing armour back in the day. Imagine a full set of plate armour with the surface left to look raw just like this piece. The wearer would look fucking brutal!
Seven Proxies polished metal tends to be easier to clean rust off of
A lot of gunpowder era armour (particularly for rank and file usage) retained the dark oxide coating, usually with a bit of oil/waxing. Google image search Peascod Breastplate and you'll see a lot of it.
Cam Eron: But if left raw, it would be easier to oil up aince there are more nooks and crannies for the oil to stick to.
That way, rust shouldn't be an issue.
Plus, the wearer would look fucking brutal! :D
that's what they often did, sometimes they would use paint as well!
+Seven Proxies I agree with the look being more badass. however oil tends to last only for a short period of time before its protection is compromised by wear. I know if BBQ grates are any indication of oil protection you have a week or two at best.
I think you could put out a 60 Minute Video of you guys forging this plate. Its really smooth to watch. Brings me down.
seeing a carbon shaft break makes me cringe. thats about 8 dollars gone.
MrMnmmatt I think he made enough money to compensate for this grievous loss of an bolt.
I dont know why, but the rythmic sound of forging out steel is oddly soothing.
The pole is not stable enough. The padding underneath seems too soft. You can't transfer the force correctly. It might have saffered more damage otherwise.
well yeah. only, you know, humans wearing a gambeson underneath ar not exactly immovable steel pillars either. yes this is not completely accurate. but as skal himself noted, it isn't supposed to be. and for purposes of demonstrating the useabilty and effectiveness of armor it should still be accurate enough.
Due to the combination of a gambeson and people movement from the impact, I would have to say close enough.
Mr. CJX so if I hit you in the face with a hammer you won't fall back on your ass?
There's something extremely satisfying watching you miss most of the hammerblows, mainly bc I did just as bad assisting a friend flatten mildsteel myself
This video seems to indicate that late XIV and XV century knights were immortal.
All those noblemen who died in battles? Sudden death by old age and other natural causes, I tell ya.
In a nutshell, knights and men-at-arms in full plate armor were the closest thing to "invincible" at the time. A combination of their martial training and the multiple layers of protection their armor offered (several plates, gambeson, and thick fabric tunics which absorbed a shiton of impact force generated from weapon collision) made fighting a knight in open combat a very poor choice. You were basically fighting a living tank. Most times the best way to take them down was to isolate, gang up and target non-protected areas like armpits, back of the knees, buttocks to ultimately wrestle the knight to the ground and stab them through the visors with a specialized dagger. Other times was trying to use polearms at horseback.
Also another reason was that knights and men at arms were the personal troops and family members of noble houses, which meant that almost alwyas the enemy troops would focus their efforts on capture and ransom over elimination due to the high monetary value of the targets and how complicated it was to kill them in the field.
Also: If, for example, you look at some of the famous battles the english longbow fans like to cite, such as Crecy etc, you will find that the french nobles actually /didn't/ die in battle. A lot of them, for instance, were killed after they were captured, because the british had to retreat and executed them summarily, and so forth.
A very interesting video, glad to see a more realistic version of arrow/crossbow vs steel armor
I love your content and editing. I imagine i'll watch your videos till either of us dies or the internet doesn't exist anymore.
I'm slowly getting into Forging and Smithing and the noise is the toughest thing for me to get used to lol.
I have to pick times when I believe my neighbors are either gone, or not doing anything too important at home. Then, and only then, can I in good conscience go out there and start wailing on some metal.
Skallgrim holding the sledgehammer kinda half way down the shaft and hitting himself in the hip with every swing is definitely the best part of the video
Nice video, you can really see how much work it takes for making armor. No surprise that plate armor was insanely expensive, it offered an incredible level of protection.
This is amazing. I would never have expected it to hold up like it did.
You'd be surprised how enjoyable it actually was to just watch you two hammer the steel. It was the same with your flintknapping&rambles videos.
This was really fascinating to see, put armour in perspective for me
Skal, so you could say, that it was a striking experience :3
Watching a piece of glowing steel being pounded with a hammer is very hypnotic and relaxing...
I was going to have the party face enemies with plate armor magically enchanted to be tougher in the next D&D meet, but now it's clear that would be some serious overkill.
I never knew sparks were generated like that. Thanks for this video, very useful!
I'm always in awe over thing like this I didn't think mild steel would be that strong
i think this is one of the best videos i've seen on the power of plate.
Impressive! Especially considering how ridiculously powerful that modern crossbow is.