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Alonso had a 40 point lead after Hungary 2012. Somehow that got reduced thanks to Grosjean being absolute clown shoes. Also the most heart-warming race of 1997 was the German GP, when Berger in his retirement year, owned the weekend after losing his dad. When he took the top step, you could feel the love from all fans, regardless of team.
Am biased as a Grosjean fan but I always thought that Hulkenberg's T1 Spa crash a few years later was as bad as Grosjean's but people didn't give him grief purely because he wasn't Grosjean.
Man that ‘97 Willams-Renault with the Rothmans livery might be the best looking race car ever. Could honestly say it for any of those Williams from 94-97.
Fun fact: Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc were both born around the same time the 1997 Japanese Grand Prix took place: the Grand Prix was on the 12th of October, Verstappen was born on the 30th of September while Leclerc was born on the 16th of October. And to make you feel even more old, RUclips will turn 20 years old next year meaning that the oldest videos on RUclips will have "20 years ago" next to the views soon. And to annoy you even further, Burnout 3 Takedown recently celebrated it's 20th anniversary while Gran Turismo 4 and Need for Speed Underground 2 will be celebrating their 20th anniversaries very soon.
If Schumacher was "the best number two driver in the world" in the 1999 Malaysian GP, then surely this was one of Irvine's finest moments as a rear gunner? That pass around the outside at the end of the Esses was just magic.
5:21 funnily enough I was watching the 1997 f1 season review yesterday, Schumi 2 and Fisi threw away *a lot* of points in that Jordan That 1997 Jordan might have been the best car Jordan ever made
Australia had a tiered system to the flags - a double yellow at one flag point would be preceded by a single waved yellow at the previous point and at the point before that would be a stationary yellow. I suspect this was Europe as well since CAMS followed their rules pretty closely.
I remember watching a graphic comparing the points between John Newhouse and the Michael, said graphic made me realize how satisfying it is that Villeneuve and Schumacher's first and last names have the exact same number of letters.
The FIA don’t need any help or advice on setting up results or season finales, they did it to Senna, they’ve done it to Hamilton and they’ll probably do it again whenever they decide that one driver or another needs to win to advance the sports profile
@AidanMillward that's why I've always called Sennas 1990 act karma for 1989, he knew he was wronged, but I thought the push start was a bit different, didn't Ferrari use it in like 2002 because Michael was on the racing line? Or was that different?
@@jordza2k11 Same thing Hamilton did at Nürburgring in 2007, he was craned out of a dangerous position as several cars had gone off at T1, but he had minimal/no damage and had kept the engine running. Senna restarted the engine with the push from the marshals.
(Iirc) Mika Hakkinen also failed to slow for that same yellow flag at Suzuka. But he had a trick - he would wave to the marshalls to acknowledge he'd seen the yellow flag, while keeping his foot to the floor driving flat out with one hand. Amazingly it worked. The FIA had been negligent in not enforcing the yellow flags for some time. But the way they handled things at Suzuka was pure Max & Bernie doing what they thought was best for business - they wanted a final race showdown & a Ferrari championship win. And to punish a team which was objecting to the terms of the new Concorde agreement and their vision of big bucks manufacturer involvement in F1, at the expense of independents & the operating model which had dominated F1 for the past 4 decades.
Had the mercedes engines actually been reliable mcclaren would have had a say in this title fight between them they retired 14 times !! Hakkinen from the lead 4 times !!!
The original 1997 Concorde was signed in March 96 so Forti and Lola actually both signed the original as I believe did a new entry which never happened which Stirling Moss had something to do with if you ever get that story would love to get full details
By mentioning Austria and Michael scoring one point reminded me who he overtook to get that point. His TB And what was TB's response in the paddock when asked by Louise Goodman what he thought when Schumacher passed him. 'Bugger'
As a Schumacher fan I have always been suspicious of the ending to Jerez 1997, would it surprise me if it was rigged in some way? Absolutely not but as much as I want to believe the conspiracy I actually thought of Patrick Head and Ron Dennis as honest guys in a sport fraught with a lot of lies and secrets... the Irvine reference though fair play i cracked with that as someone who never rated him 😂
8:54: Insert Bob Varsha clip here with his double waved yellows line. Also I'm just trying to work out how the marshals went from the car is by the side of the road to we got it stuck on a barrier and we need a JCB, and my colleague is in the car to steer it. I just....I can't get my head around how and why it went from a simple job of get the car out of danger, to we royally cocked this up, lads
Yea but you needed to do some spying beforehand and get some nice parts in order to pull a 1-2 grid. Vanilla Forti wouldn't be enough. I also find fascinating that if you go on TV view during the race, everyone will have a harder time overtaking your drivers than in the actual race map. GPM2 and CM93 are some of the best games ever made, no thought.
Commenting before I've watched the video, but still: I wish JV had kept those points from Japan, cause that would have meant Schumacher wouldn't have benefitted from taking him out at Jerez. Hell, he might have just let the door open when JV divebombed him. I'm not fully convinced JV would have made that corner. It's a pity, because even though I respect Schumacher's talent, skill and win at all cost mentality, he went way too far here and it does stain his legacy a bit. Compared to this, Verstappen's defending in Mexico was child's play!
Let's not forget that Damon Hill while getting lapped by The Michael, held the latter up and that is how Heinz ended up getting so close. Around a 4 second lead went down to less than two seconds in just over half a lap.
"Driver standards are policed quite heavily these days" Unless youre Verstappen. In which case if he divebombs and puts himself in a position where he either keeps the line he has to force someone off, or takes them both out, its someone elses fault. If the guy in front with the line keeps the line and Verstappen takes them both out, its someone elses fault. But this has been an ongoing thing now for a good two decades so what do you expect.
max is the guy on the road in the F-150 who will look directly at you next to them, and start merging in on you, forcing you into a parked car.... after he has sped up from 4 carlengths back and aims directly at your b pillar in the middle of a blind two lane bend.... when youre minding your fucking business in the next lane over, while the cop sitting behind who watched it then says 'nah thats my mate max hes the best driver in town' then they charge you for dangerous driving.. but its all good, hes got this massive car, if you dont get out of the way, its wholly your fault.
@@keithedwards9337 Is that supposed to be a heartbreaking goodbye due to a tragic loss? Aidan's not gonna lose any sleep because one less person is watching him.
It's only clickbait if I try to make it into something it isn't. Which I haven't. To be honest if you saw the 27 year old car and thought this was going to be something about this season then that's on you, not me.
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Alonso had a 40 point lead after Hungary 2012. Somehow that got reduced thanks to Grosjean being absolute clown shoes. Also the most heart-warming race of 1997 was the German GP, when Berger in his retirement year, owned the weekend after losing his dad. When he took the top step, you could feel the love from all fans, regardless of team.
and because of suzuka and the fact vettel won 4 straight races which could've been 6 in a row towards the end
Grosjean lost Alonso that championship… makes me sick…
@@Dr-Loren I watched that too, and I agree
@@Dr-Lorenthere’s a reason he got the ban
Am biased as a Grosjean fan but I always thought that Hulkenberg's T1 Spa crash a few years later was as bad as Grosjean's but people didn't give him grief purely because he wasn't Grosjean.
I love how you refer to Villeneuve by all the classic names. John Newhouse was my go-to driver in GP3 (since I could race besides my fav driver HHF)
So weird to tune into a new video and then BAM! 8:19 and a photo I took myself.
Properly credited and all, thanks!
@@TommiNummelin its a fine picture of a JCB
Man that ‘97 Willams-Renault with the Rothmans livery might be the best looking race car ever. Could honestly say it for any of those Williams from 94-97.
I prefer the '96 car, but I agree. I was looking at the shot of JV going inside of Schumacher and thinking, "damn that car looks good."
I agree. I was looking at that photo of JV going inside Schumacher at Jerez and I thought, "man, that car looks good."
5:46
Ah, good ol' John Newhouse (GPM2)/Williams NumberOne (F1 '97)
*Newtown (assuming we're talking about JV?)
Fun fact: Max Verstappen and Charles Leclerc were both born around the same time the 1997 Japanese Grand Prix took place: the Grand Prix was on the 12th of October, Verstappen was born on the 30th of September while Leclerc was born on the 16th of October.
And to make you feel even more old, RUclips will turn 20 years old next year meaning that the oldest videos on RUclips will have "20 years ago" next to the views soon.
And to annoy you even further, Burnout 3 Takedown recently celebrated it's 20th anniversary while Gran Turismo 4 and Need for Speed Underground 2 will be celebrating their 20th anniversaries very soon.
Thank you. Now go to hell. 😂😂😂
Yeah and it's been 55 .5 years since Mario Andretti won the Indy 500 , I was 9. 😆
This comment aged me.
Damn You! Damn You! Damn You!!! ... It's impossible!!! I can't be THAT OLD!!!! Aaarrgghhh!!!! 😕 (sob)
Thanks. You really made my day with that.
5:35 I’m sure that made for an awkward family dinner at the Schumacher house 😂
If Schumacher was "the best number two driver in the world" in the 1999 Malaysian GP, then surely this was one of Irvine's finest moments as a rear gunner? That pass around the outside at the end of the Esses was just magic.
"WILLIAMS NUMBER ONE" - Murray Walker 1997
You're right there Murray
*Driver Williams* in F1 World Grand Prix (N64)
Love the F1 97 game reference......😀
"You're right there Murray "
5:21 funnily enough I was watching the 1997 f1 season review yesterday, Schumi 2 and Fisi threw away *a lot* of points in that Jordan
That 1997 Jordan might have been the best car Jordan ever made
I watched that recently too.
It really doesn't do the season justice though!
7:07
Savage!!
I Loved it!!
Australia had a tiered system to the flags - a double yellow at one flag point would be preceded by a single waved yellow at the previous point and at the point before that would be a stationary yellow. I suspect this was Europe as well since CAMS followed their rules pretty closely.
Next idea: the story of Monaco 1999: how the distinction between stationary and waved yellow flags disappeared.
I remember watching a graphic comparing the points between John Newhouse and the Michael, said graphic made me realize how satisfying it is that Villeneuve and Schumacher's first and last names have the exact same number of letters.
@12:17: irvine wasn't on low fuel. 4 laps relative to Villeneueve. JV just slowed down to back up Schumacher into the pack.
This is fantastic praxis scrutineering. 👏💪
Hey Aidan, @ 4:45 The race in Argentina is called Argentine Grand Prix!
The FIA don’t need any help or advice on setting up results or season finales, they did it to Senna, they’ve done it to Hamilton and they’ll probably do it again whenever they decide that one driver or another needs to win to advance the sports profile
Under the rules for a push start, Senna should have been disqualified. But they disqualified him for the wrong reason- Which was cutting the chicane.
@AidanMillward that's why I've always called Sennas 1990 act karma for 1989, he knew he was wronged, but I thought the push start was a bit different, didn't Ferrari use it in like 2002 because Michael was on the racing line? Or was that different?
@@jordza2k11 you can be pushed out the way, but not push started.
@@AidanMillward oh in Ferraris case they had kept the engine running hadn't they? Senna needed the downhill slope to get going
@@jordza2k11 Same thing Hamilton did at Nürburgring in 2007, he was craned out of a dangerous position as several cars had gone off at T1, but he had minimal/no damage and had kept the engine running. Senna restarted the engine with the push from the marshals.
Just what I needed!
I remember being disappointed in Hill's antics of holding up MSC
I remember being disappointed in Schumacher's antics of taking out Hill in Adelaide 1994
15:30 foooour weeks detention? Starting tonight, see ya later.
I hope that was indeed an inbetweeners reference 😂
(Iirc) Mika Hakkinen also failed to slow for that same yellow flag at Suzuka. But he had a trick - he would wave to the marshalls to acknowledge he'd seen the yellow flag, while keeping his foot to the floor driving flat out with one hand. Amazingly it worked.
The FIA had been negligent in not enforcing the yellow flags for some time. But the way they handled things at Suzuka was pure Max & Bernie doing what they thought was best for business - they wanted a final race showdown & a Ferrari championship win. And to punish a team which was objecting to the terms of the new Concorde agreement and their vision of big bucks manufacturer involvement in F1, at the expense of independents & the operating model which had dominated F1 for the past 4 decades.
Had the mercedes engines actually been reliable mcclaren would have had a say in this title fight between them they retired 14 times !! Hakkinen from the lead 4 times !!!
16:10 that would be episode 6, in the original run of Storytime.
@@JohnSmithShields remade last year.
@@AidanMillward I'm going old school.
awesome video
The original 1997 Concorde was signed in March 96 so Forti and Lola actually both signed the original as I believe did a new entry which never happened which Stirling Moss had something to do with if you ever get that story would love to get full details
7:48 freshly new dad.
when you make a video about oreca's iconic 07 LMP2
Great video again Aidan ❤
Sky should have you on their podcast as a guest!
@@Bezza49 might happen if enough people make enough noise.
@AidanMillward I'll get Ted Kravitz in a headlock
Nice John Deer tractor lifting the car.
Clarkson: Yes, but mine’s better.
1997 was a fun season.
By mentioning Austria and Michael scoring one point reminded me who he overtook to get that point. His TB
And what was TB's response in the paddock when asked by Louise Goodman what he thought when Schumacher passed him. 'Bugger'
😂 who’s John Newhouse?!
Funny fact JV named his bar with Club Med as NewTown à literal translation of his last name!
The son of the famous F1 driver, Guy Newhouse of course!
As a Schumacher fan I have always been suspicious of the ending to Jerez 1997, would it surprise me if it was rigged in some way? Absolutely not but as much as I want to believe the conspiracy I actually thought of Patrick Head and Ron Dennis as honest guys in a sport fraught with a lot of lies and secrets... the Irvine reference though fair play i cracked with that as someone who never rated him 😂
Jooooooooooooooooohn Newhouse!
Fun Fact, The 3 out of 4 races JV won in 1996 that were also held in 1997 were won by JV also in 1997
8:54:
Insert Bob Varsha clip here with his double waved yellows line. Also I'm just trying to work out how the marshals went from the car is by the side of the road to we got it stuck on a barrier and we need a JCB, and my colleague is in the car to steer it. I just....I can't get my head around how and why it went from a simple job of get the car out of danger, to we royally cocked this up, lads
I am not French but surely ville neuve is new town or newton not new house?
Yea but you needed to do some spying beforehand and get some nice parts in order to pull a 1-2 grid. Vanilla Forti wouldn't be enough.
I also find fascinating that if you go on TV view during the race, everyone will have a harder time overtaking your drivers than in the actual race map.
GPM2 and CM93 are some of the best games ever made, no thought.
Dunno what special version of GPM2 you were playing, but whenever I told my drivers to "Do or die" they always crashed!
Time travel with Aidan - and it's only Friday, or is it?
Basically I leap from from life to life, striving to put right what once went wrong, and hoping each time that my next leap will be the leap home.
Oh boy.
@@AidanMillward 🤣
@@JohnSmithShields executive producer Donald P. Bellisario.
The Michael 😂
Commenting before I've watched the video, but still: I wish JV had kept those points from Japan, cause that would have meant Schumacher wouldn't have benefitted from taking him out at Jerez. Hell, he might have just let the door open when JV divebombed him. I'm not fully convinced JV would have made that corner. It's a pity, because even though I respect Schumacher's talent, skill and win at all cost mentality, he went way too far here and it does stain his legacy a bit. Compared to this, Verstappen's defending in Mexico was child's play!
Jacques, Accepterais-tu a ban?
The penalty for Villeneuve was too harsh (mainly the penalty being too harsh). Glad Villeneuve still won the championship
Yeah… and then the top 3 the next race including both championship contenders share the quickest time…how much of that is Bernie?
@@MWPompert Mosely thought Bernie had rigged it but it turned out that it was genuine
@@AidanMillward talk about the million quid lottery ticket! :)
Let's not forget that Damon Hill while getting lapped by The Michael, held the latter up and that is how Heinz ended up getting so close. Around a 4 second lead went down to less than two seconds in just over half a lap.
@@JackKeithley muh boi!
Let's not forget Adelaide 1994.
was 12 lap in hour Qualy
@AidanMillward Wow that game IS broken if a Forti 1-2 can do that!
Why do you refer to Villeneuve as "New House" when the translation is "New Town" (or, effectively, Newton)?
Because in F1 games of the era Villeneuve refused to let his name and likeness be used so he was replaced with the name John Newhouse
Because you don't get the reference ;)
@@MrSniperfox29Thanks! So it was the game programmers that did it.
So we should now refer to the 7 times German WDC as Mike Cobblers?
@@MrSniperfox29 and williams number 1 on the playstation side
Better Al Gorythum than Tipper Gorythum. 😅😅😅😅
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That would be great if I wasn’t before you and also not a bot.
"Driver standards are policed quite heavily these days"
Unless youre Verstappen. In which case if he divebombs and puts himself in a position where he either keeps the line he has to force someone off, or takes them both out, its someone elses fault. If the guy in front with the line keeps the line and Verstappen takes them both out, its someone elses fault.
But this has been an ongoing thing now for a good two decades so what do you expect.
max is the guy on the road in the F-150 who will look directly at you next to them, and start merging in on you, forcing you into a parked car.... after he has sped up from 4 carlengths back and aims directly at your b pillar in the middle of a blind two lane bend.... when youre minding your fucking business in the next lane over, while the cop sitting behind who watched it then says 'nah thats my mate max hes the best driver in town' then they charge you for dangerous driving..
but its all good, hes got this massive car, if you dont get out of the way, its wholly your fault.
Please please stop using the word ‘basically’
@@keithedwards9337 no.
@@AidanMillward one less viewer then
@@keithedwards9337 Is that supposed to be a heartbreaking goodbye due to a tragic loss? Aidan's not gonna lose any sleep because one less person is watching him.
@@Kuromori-v9z Make your own mind up dic…d
Basically, no one cares.
A race from 30 years ago, click bait .
It's only clickbait if I try to make it into something it isn't. Which I haven't.
To be honest if you saw the 27 year old car and thought this was going to be something about this season then that's on you, not me.
I have no idea how your mind is thinking here
That's some next level mental gymnastics to come to that conclusion...
@@AidanMillwardI quite enjoyed the video. Thank you.