this video is old ,but just wondering how you got on with the longevity of this piece ? have been looking into using oils and lots of sources say it doesn't adhere well + it deteriorates the clay over time ... have you found this to be true ? or is this still in good nick? thanks heaps ! great sculpt
I know this may be strange or a little different but I seriously need some help!! I want to make a sculpture but using those wooden anatomy models you get for references to get your drawings in proportion. I hope you know what I mean? I’m wondering if the wood, springs, screws etc will be damaged in the baking process if I used it as the skeleton for my polymer clay sculpture? Do you know? Your advise would be hugely appropriated! 💓💓
Great work, love it. Question is I see in comments below that you use white spirit, yet the oils you are using are water mixable oil colour... why don't you use water? and do you seal after painting at all?
Thanks! I didn't think I was using water soluble oils, although having checked the video it looks like some of them were (I did this a couple of years ago now). I'm pretty sure the others were standard oils and so require a thinner, hence me using the white spirit. I wouldn't have thought that white spirit would have worked with water soluble paints but it worked just fine here so I guess you can. I didn't seal this as the paints seemed to have adhered well, I do in some cases though.
Looks great! I was wondering about using oil washes, because I want to paint small pieces without the hassle of an airbrush, but I don't want brush marks on it. So now I know how. Do you coat the paint with any protective varnish-like product? If not, how durable is the paint layer? I ask because the pieces I am making are for a bord game, so they will be handled a lot.
Thanks! I didn't varnish this - it wasn't really intended to be handled much, but the paint did adhere very well so I'm not sure it would be necessary.
This is absolutely adorable, I love that bat video too. Did you seal the oil paints after they were dry? I'm sculpting something which I want to paint with oils but it's intended to be handled a lot, I don't want to risk the paint coming off haha
+Kimberley Tomlinson thanks! Yes it's a very cute video :) I didn't seal this but I have found that a polyurethane spray varnish works Ok, once they're dry. I use a rustoleum one which is intended for furniture.
Awesome work, i have a couple questions. Do the fingers have armature wire in them? And do you have a tip to stop the moonie bubble things when baking.
Thanks very much. Yes the fingers have some wire in them. The crescent shaped things are a pain! I've found that mixing up the clay with a rake helps - I think they're caused by two pieces of clay not being properly joined. Washing your hands or wearing gloves may also help so no natural oils from your hands stop adhesion. I've also found cooking the clay for a shorter period of time can help - I talk about it in this vid ruclips.net/video/UXiGftK3hqo/видео.htmlm8s
I don't know what Oleo is I'm afraid. I've found that thinners tend to be called different things in different countries, so it's white spirit in the UK, mineral spirits in the US and Varso in Canada. I k now that white spirit is different to isopropyl alcohol though, if that's what you're using.
Hello! Sorry quite a few questions: how long does it take for it to completely dry (not just to touch)? Is there a way to speed up the drying process? My clay is gray, so should I paint a layer of white or something else underneath for other colors to show up better? And how does acrylic look compared to how oil looks?
For this, I'd say the best thing to do would be to paint it with white acrylic first. Let that dry then go over it with oils. I'd say they dry if left overnight. They so thin that it doesn't take long. I think oils look more subtle than acrylics This video might be useful ruclips.net/video/pkjDnTyNOXs/видео.html
I was testing various paints and was having a problem with all of them. My oil paints were wiping/scratching off really easily. Have you noticed the same thing? It's been about 5 days now, and i mixed them with a thinner that makes them dry faster when painting.
I found mine dried pretty quickly as they were so thin. I know oil paints can take a while to dry if they're thick, but if you thin them down I've found they're dry to the touch in a few hours.
Mine are dry to touch, but i can very easily scrape the paint off just by touching my nail to the piece. I imagine i'm supposed to use some sort of sealer as a top layer when i'm all done but i'm not finding anything useful on google.
Art shops do sell a spray varnish for oil paints so that might do the trick - it's intended for oil on canvas but may well work on sculptures too. I'd test it on something else before trying it on your sculpture though.
So can i use oil paint on fimo clay i've been trying to find some good paint to use on polymer clay and since i have some oil paint is it good to use on fimo polymer clay? And do i have to varnish my sculpture after i paint it?
I've not tried on fimo but I'd imagine they'd work the same as on sculpey. You don't have to varnish but it usually helps tie things together and adds a little more depth to the colour.
Hi, I live in Canada BUT am an old Limey...I come from where the two good soccer teams come from Manchester,,,, When you say acrylics....do you mean just plain old acrylic paint for normal painting....I do real big stuff...most of my pieces and 18 inches or larger... Very nice art man...BUT I am impressed with how simple you make the painting look quite easy...I do large Dragons. Eagles and Angels but mainly mythical pieces,,,,that way NO ONE can say it is not supposed to be that way...or another. I also paint and can see what you are doing but thanks for the videao as it made me aware of the acrylic solution.. ThanksGod BlessFreddy
Cheers dude, yeah I mean normal artists acrylic although I generally use the Games Workshop citadel paints if you know what they are. Yep you have plenty of leeway on creatures so no-one can say you've got it wrong! ;)
Have you used this painting technique on apoxie sculpt? I can’t bring myself to paint my sculpture because I’m afraid I’ll ruin it! It needs to be delicately shaded as it’s a sea creature and acrylic is not working.
I've been painting with acrylics and the paint just slides off so I end up putting thick coats on, i was wondering if you had that experience? Edit: does it matter what brand of oil paint you use?
I've not found that when painting sculpey, but it does depend on the surface you're painting on to. If it's very smooth then paint may have a hard time adhering. You could always prime the surface but then you lose the intrinsic colouring of the sculpey. As for oil paints, I've not found that brand makes a difference really.
@@thedarkpower Thank you for replying, i really appreciate it. If this information is useful- I cooked then used primer then painted onto my model. Is that not the method? I'm a complete newb lol but yeah I paint onto the surface and it slides off, like painting on glass.
Thanks, saw a polymer clay sculpture at the Comicon in Seattle and they painted it with oils. Nothing else looked like his sculpture because of this. It stood out in a positive way!
hello there! i have a question, i tried painting my sculpture with oil paints ( i thined them with turpentine to a liquid state) and it took about a week to dry. am i doing something wrong or is it right? also just from curiosity, what is the name of the music in the background?
Hmmm, I'm not sure about that - I only use very tiny amounts of oil so I suppose it could be because it's too thick perhaps? The only other thing I can think of is that the turpentine may be the reason - I use white spirit (mineral spirits). The music is called 'Epic Hollywood Trailer' :) www.premiumbeat.com/royalty_free_music/songs/epic-hollywood-trailer
hmm i see, i have never used white spirit before, I don't think they have it in my country (Slovenia) but i'll try my best to find it somewhere :). Thanks for the answers! have a great day!
Without knowing the types of paint you've used it's a little difficult to say. You could try heating it with a hair dryer to try and cause the solvent to evaporate.
I'm using white spirit. It may be called something different in other countries - I think it's called 'mineral spirits' in the US for example. I think most types of thinner would work fine though.
awesome. thank you so much! I'm sure to be tuning in to see more of your sculpting and painting. up until now everyone has told me to use acrylics...and though they are nice it not ... realistic. i love your method
Not sure that's true - the model's several years old and is just fine. You can do this with acrylics yes, I prefer oils and thinners for the reasons stated in the video.
Wow. Oil paints actually look quite nice on clay sculptures. The paint retains it's glow and gives a lively quality. Really nice work:)
Thanks very much 😁
This turned out really awesome. The coffin was a nice touch as well.
Thanks! Yes the mrs really liked it ;)
When he grows up he gonna be a vampire bat... erm, maybe a vegataran vampire bat. ;P
WOW you are super talented! I am not a fan of sculpted hair or fur but you nailed it.
+Warlord2029 thanks! Yeah I know what you mean- I have started to us real fair for some models.
Amazing piece of work
Thank you! Cheers!
you make it look easy!
+GodDamnBender thanks! ;)
That's really cool, thanks for that.
this video is old ,but just wondering how you got on with the longevity of this piece ? have been looking into using oils and lots of sources say it doesn't adhere well + it deteriorates the clay over time ... have you found this to be true ? or is this still in good nick? thanks heaps ! great sculpt
Thanks. No I've not found that, it's still looking great and it's adhered really well - I can't scratch it off with my fingernail.
@@thedarkpower Thanks so much for replying ! Thats good to know .
I'm glad we can use oils on super sculpey. Will it work on firm too? I'm more comfortable with oils rather than acrylic so this was helpful.
+Alexandra A I've not tried them on sculpey firm but I can't see why they wouldn't.
Really cool! who clay do you use...? Dry po? WePam? Das? JoyFimo?
Thanks, that one's sculpted in Super Sculpey.
Really awesome work!
+Georgie White cheers dude I appreciate it :)
Wow! i cant wait to give this a go! what kind of paint thinner should i use???
Thanks, I used white spirit otherwise known as mineral spirits.
I know this may be strange or a little different but I seriously need some help!! I want to make a sculpture but using those wooden anatomy models you get for references to get your drawings in proportion. I hope you know what I mean?
I’m wondering if the wood, springs, screws etc will be damaged in the baking process if I used it as the skeleton for my polymer clay sculpture? Do you know? Your advise would be hugely appropriated! 💓💓
Great work, love it. Question is I see in comments below that you use white spirit, yet the oils you are using are water mixable oil colour... why don't you use water? and do you seal after painting at all?
Thanks! I didn't think I was using water soluble oils, although having checked the video it looks like some of them were (I did this a couple of years ago now).
I'm pretty sure the others were standard oils and so require a thinner, hence me using the white spirit. I wouldn't have thought that white spirit would have worked with water soluble paints but it worked just fine here so I guess you can. I didn't seal this as the paints seemed to have adhered well, I do in some cases though.
Looks great! I was wondering about using oil washes, because I want to paint small pieces without the hassle of an airbrush, but I don't want brush marks on it. So now I know how.
Do you coat the paint with any protective varnish-like product? If not, how durable is the paint layer? I ask because the pieces I am making are for a bord game, so they will be handled a lot.
Thanks! I didn't varnish this - it wasn't really intended to be handled much, but the paint did adhere very well so I'm not sure it would be necessary.
@@thedarkpower Cool, thanks!
This is absolutely adorable, I love that bat video too. Did you seal the oil paints after they were dry? I'm sculpting something which I want to paint with oils but it's intended to be handled a lot, I don't want to risk the paint coming off haha
+Kimberley Tomlinson thanks! Yes it's a very cute video :) I didn't seal this but I have found that a polyurethane spray varnish works Ok, once they're dry. I use a rustoleum one which is intended for furniture.
The Dark Power Thank you so much for replying!
Super cute! I have the opposite problem. Everything I create comes out cute, even when I try to make things look creepy or scary. Any tips?
I'd say go for small eyes and sculpt everything with a serious look on its face. seems to do the trick for me!
Thank you so much! I will try that!
Awesome work, i have a couple questions. Do the fingers have armature wire in them? And do you have a tip to stop the moonie bubble things when baking.
Thanks very much. Yes the fingers have some wire in them. The crescent shaped things are a pain! I've found that mixing up the clay with a rake helps - I think they're caused by two pieces of clay not being properly joined. Washing your hands or wearing gloves may also help so no natural oils from your hands stop adhesion. I've also found cooking the clay for a shorter period of time can help - I talk about it in this vid ruclips.net/video/UXiGftK3hqo/видео.htmlm8s
out of curiosity how long did it take to dry after you painted it?
As the layers of paint are so thin it doesn't take that long - maybe touch dry in an hour or so.
The Dark Power alright thanks for reply 😊
Great video like a always. Do you have a video about skin tones?
Thanks very much. Sure, these videos cover skin tones.
ruclips.net/video/qssfhcRv76s/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/UXiGftK3hqo/видео.html
ruclips.net/video/pkjDnTyNOXs/видео.html
This is adorable, do you sell any of your sculptures? if not then you totally should.
Thanks! Yes I do sometimes, although I plan to do more of that in the future :)
awesome, i'll keep my eye out for them
Hello, it take me 2 days to dry... Do you know why? I use alcohol and oleo paint. thanks you and great job. Cute bat :)
That might be why, I used white spirit and oils. Thanks! :)
@@thedarkpower OK but oil isn´t oleo? and white spirit isn´t alcohol? Sorry my ignorance and thanks for response.
I don't know what Oleo is I'm afraid. I've found that thinners tend to be called different things in different countries, so it's white spirit in the UK, mineral spirits in the US and Varso in Canada. I k now that white spirit is different to isopropyl alcohol though, if that's what you're using.
Sorry if I missed it, but did you use a protective glaze first before applying oil paint?
No I just painted straight on to the sculpey.
Hello! Sorry quite a few questions: how long does it take for it to completely dry (not just to touch)? Is there a way to speed up the drying process?
My clay is gray, so should I paint a layer of white or something else underneath for other colors to show up better?
And how does acrylic look compared to how oil looks?
For this, I'd say the best thing to do would be to paint it with white acrylic first. Let that dry then go over it with oils. I'd say they dry if left overnight. They so thin that it doesn't take long. I think oils look more subtle than acrylics This video might be useful ruclips.net/video/pkjDnTyNOXs/видео.html
Thank you much! And for replying so quickly!
I was testing various paints and was having a problem with all of them. My oil paints were wiping/scratching off really easily. Have you noticed the same thing? It's been about 5 days now, and i mixed them with a thinner that makes them dry faster when painting.
I found mine dried pretty quickly as they were so thin. I know oil paints can take a while to dry if they're thick, but if you thin them down I've found they're dry to the touch in a few hours.
Mine are dry to touch, but i can very easily scrape the paint off just by touching my nail to the piece. I imagine i'm supposed to use some sort of sealer as a top layer when i'm all done but i'm not finding anything useful on google.
Art shops do sell a spray varnish for oil paints so that might do the trick - it's intended for oil on canvas but may well work on sculptures too. I'd test it on something else before trying it on your sculpture though.
So can i use oil paint on fimo clay i've been trying to find some good paint to use on polymer clay and since i have some oil paint is it good to use on fimo polymer clay? And do i have to varnish my sculpture after i paint it?
I've not tried on fimo but I'd imagine they'd work the same as on sculpey. You don't have to varnish but it usually helps tie things together and adds a little more depth to the colour.
I subscribed, I will look at more videos.
Do you find oil paint drys slowly?...will ot soften the backed clay
It's so thin that it dries quickly. This is polymer clay, so it sets when you heat it. Moisture won't cause it to soften.
Do they rub off when dry? acrylic seems to be prone to this
No, I've found they're very durable.
Fantastic
+oniokami13 thanks!
Also, you painted then baked? I'm sorry I'm new to sculpting.
No probs - no you bake first, then paint ;)
Awesome!
+Blake Miller Thanks! :)
Hi,
I live in Canada BUT am an old Limey...I come from where the two good soccer teams come from Manchester,,,, When you say acrylics....do you mean just plain old acrylic paint for normal painting....I do real big stuff...most of my pieces and 18 inches or larger...
Very nice art man...BUT I am impressed with how simple you make the painting look quite easy...I do large Dragons. Eagles and Angels but mainly mythical pieces,,,,that way NO ONE can say it is not supposed to be that way...or another.
I also paint and can see what you are doing but thanks for the videao as it made me aware of the acrylic solution..
ThanksGod BlessFreddy
Cheers dude, yeah I mean normal artists acrylic although I generally use the Games Workshop citadel paints if you know what they are.
Yep you have plenty of leeway on creatures so no-one can say you've got it wrong! ;)
Have you used this painting technique on apoxie sculpt? I can’t bring myself to paint my sculpture because I’m afraid I’ll ruin it! It needs to be delicately shaded as it’s a sea creature and acrylic is not working.
I've not used apoxie sculpt I'm afraid! Maybe you could do a small test on the underside perhaps?
Thanks so much I will. Did you seal the paint with anything?
No I didn't seal it and it's been fine. It's almost three years old now.
You’re so lovely, thanks for the help, all the best 💜
nice work
Cheers!
How do you dry the paint after painting?
No special trick. As the oils are thin they dry pretty quickly.
Are you using water mixable oil colours ? Thanks
+debbie bridges hi. No these needs a solvent based thinner. I'm using mineral spirits.
Hey, is there a video of you sculpting this?
Hey - no I only decided to video it close to the end. There's a little bit of sculpting at the beginning of this vid, but that's bit.
I've been painting with acrylics and the paint just slides off so I end up putting thick coats on, i was wondering if you had that experience?
Edit: does it matter what brand of oil paint you use?
I've not found that when painting sculpey, but it does depend on the surface you're painting on to. If it's very smooth then paint may have a hard time adhering. You could always prime the surface but then you lose the intrinsic colouring of the sculpey. As for oil paints, I've not found that brand makes a difference really.
@@thedarkpower
Thank you for replying, i really appreciate it.
If this information is useful- I cooked then used primer then painted onto my model. Is that not the method? I'm a complete newb lol but yeah I paint onto the surface and it slides off, like painting on glass.
@@thedarkpower also yes the surface is quite smooth
@@MizzFujin Hmmm, if you've primed it it shouldn't be coming off. It might be worth trying some paints intended for models - Tamiya are very good.
@@thedarkpower thank you! I really appreciate the help :)
What are you thinning the oil paints with, I couldn't understand. Thanks.
I used white spirit, also known as mineral spirits. You can probably use other thinners too though.
Thanks, saw a polymer clay sculpture at the Comicon in Seattle and they painted it with oils. Nothing else looked like his sculpture because of this. It stood out in a positive way!
Cool, yeah oils are great, well worth trying.
Is a quality of oil paint that you don't need a primer before painting?
+Christian Dovel yea that right - the oil will stain the sculpey so you don't need a primer.
What kind of glass pieces did you use for the eyes of the bat?
I think it was the 140-05 ones
www.glasseyes.com/cgi-bin/search.pl?terms=140
@@thedarkpower Thank you! I'll go check it out.
You can do the same with acrylics, just thin them down with water.
The behaviour of the paint is different.
Como hiciste el oleo tarda un mundo en secar
Si es muy fina no tarda mucho.
hello there! i have a question, i tried painting my sculpture with oil paints ( i thined them with turpentine to a liquid state) and it took about a week to dry. am i doing something wrong or is it right?
also just from curiosity, what is the name of the music in the background?
Hmmm, I'm not sure about that - I only use very tiny amounts of oil so I suppose it could be because it's too thick perhaps? The only other thing I can think of is that the turpentine may be the reason - I use white spirit (mineral spirits). The music is called 'Epic Hollywood Trailer' :) www.premiumbeat.com/royalty_free_music/songs/epic-hollywood-trailer
hmm i see, i have never used white spirit before, I don't think they have it in my country (Slovenia) but i'll try my best to find it somewhere :).
Thanks for the answers!
have a great day!
Que tipo de tinta você usa ? Aquarela ?
+Cris Zioon i'm using oil paints here.
Followed this but my paint isn't drying. What do I do?
Without knowing the types of paint you've used it's a little difficult to say. You could try heating it with a hair dryer to try and cause the solvent to evaporate.
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what are you using to thin the paint? alcohol?
I'm using white spirit. It may be called something different in other countries - I think it's called 'mineral spirits' in the US for example. I think most types of thinner would work fine though.
thank you so much!
last question...for now ;) what about duplication? do you use resin?
I do, although I didn't make a mould of this sculpture.
awesome. thank you so much! I'm sure to be tuning in to see more of your sculpting and painting. up until now everyone has told me to use acrylics...and though they are nice it not ... realistic. i love your method
bake then paint? or vice versa?
Derp... should have made the effort to scroll down a few and see that my question has already been answered.... i'm internet lazy :D
Hehe, no worries - always bake first ;)
oil paints and thinners effect polymer and not to be used. over time they deteriorate the clay. this can be done with acrylic
Not sure that's true - the model's several years old and is just fine. You can do this with acrylics yes, I prefer oils and thinners for the reasons stated in the video.
just apply acrylic primer let dry then one can use oils it s just like painting art on canvas.
Amazing! Nice one! :)
Thanks!
why don't you talk about the products?
In what way?
Did you bake your sculpture at all? Before or after applying the paints? If not, would you be able to bake it like that with the paints on?
Yes I baked it before painting. I don't think it would work if you painted before baking.
no one new to this hobby knows this. ty
Mucho detalle, eres un gran escultor.