Spondylolisthesis Relief! 7 Real Life Tips to Stop Pain & Regain Normal Activity- Real Patient
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- Опубликовано: 20 мар 2019
- "Famous" Physical Therapists Bob Schrupp and Brad Heineck present: Spondylolisthesis Relief! 7 Real Life Tips to Stop Pain & Regain Normal Activity- Real Patient Success Story
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I was diagnosed with 18 years old, It's been almost one year and the pain is worst than never, hope to get better and I'm glad to know that I'm not alone
Thanks so much. Sorry you have spondy Brad but you have helped me heaps Been subscribed for years. I have Spondy and you are my biggest inspiration. I had almost lost hope before finding you. I too have taken many years to get quality of life back. Came so close to getting a fusion. Might sound a bit over the top but you changed my life and continue to give me hope and inspiration. If you ever come to Australia I would love to take you on on a tour or have you meet my wife and kids who got me back from a dark hopeless place. Thanks so much to you and Bob. Two legands!!
Tony
Tony, Good job on your progress. Keep up the good work on your exercises and self treatment. Would love to see your Country someday.
So very, very grateful for your guidance and professional advice. You are both definitely my most favorite famous physical therapists on the internet!
Thank you for your videos about spondylolisthesis!!! So sorry you have! it! I do too. Apparently have unknowingly had it for years now but was finally properly diagnosed by an orthopedic doctor. Thank you for your videos! Gives me direction, inspiration & keeps my spirits up 👍
Many blessings to you guys & your families 🙏 Thanks for your humor too 😂 laughter is the best medicine!! Debbie 😊
A heartfelt thank you for all the dedication to helping people; in general with your uplifting personalities, online, and in your work field. The information you provide can truly inspire and change people’s entire outlook on life when put into practice, abundant appreciation!
Very kind of you to say that. We appreciate your feedback!
Love these guys, they have helped me understand & help so many of my back & neck issues! Thanks so much, Bob & Brad!!
Very helpful guys because it’s exactly what I have since the age of 35 and nobody in Switzerland wants to operate me so I have to follow your exercises and you give me hope and relief 🇨🇭🇨🇭🇨🇭
Marie-Danielle O'Reilly Schulthess Klinik in Zuri does this op. Though might be worth finding a good physio locallly too.
Find a heroine dealer. It's cheaper and more effective. Which increases your quality of life.
@@ADawnOnTheHorizon that's what I'm talking about. If the pukes of society can get it to justify their bad behavoir chronic pain sufferers should be able to get it to have a quality of life that allows them to continue working. After all, stop allowing doctors to prescribe pain medicine, people stop working. When they stop working all the pukes don't get their free rent and groceries paid for by those pain sufferers. If not for the supposed "privileged" class to work themselves into crippleness, the non privileged class would have to work for themselves.
Make all drugs legal. Those whom will abuse them to the point of crybaby and dirt nap aren't the people contributing to society anyway.
You guys are the best, really know everything and this info helps my career tremendously!
Wow Brad Glad your Better Thank you Bob Great Information once again😀😀😀😀
I have L5 S1 spondy, SI joint dysfunction, several bulging and herniated disk from T11 to L4 and nerve damage from an injury two years ago. Workers comp is a joke BTW. Tried exercises, PT, chiro, pain meds, SCS and nothing helps the pain and sciatica. Stuck in bed most of the time, cant do any physical activities or work more than an hour or two. Cant keep a job anymore because of it, no insurance=no treatment. Living life is over only existing day to day and cant hardly sleep at night. Somebody give me some hope of relief
Try a carnivore diet. You have nothing to lose.
Thank you so much for this knowledge and possibly of getting better . Hope I don’t have to get surgery , I have nerve pain and just started exercise and have noticed a difference already. Thank you for all you share with everyone
Thank you Brad! I had plasma shots into my L4/5 &Si joints area and that has helped me so I can actually do pt. This is helpful. I have grade 1 with this areas I mentioned above. Thanks for giving me hope.
(I can't do planks ulnar nerve issue. And if I lean on it I will have a lot of pain)
Our opinion to, thanks for the infrared heat pad information never heard of one before
I really love mine.
I love the little song you have on the beginning
Glad you said, “if you don’t like Facebook...” Can’t stand it!
I will have a look at your website however.
Interesting topic today. Very enlightening.
Thanks for the feedback!
@Bob and Brad YEA!!! Another video made just for me!!! Thanks so much, guys!! :) Mine is at L4-5 also, but only grade 1+ or slight 2 per recent MRI. Stable for now. You're right. Standing is the worst! Sitting for long, starts to hurt. I get up every 40 minutes now from sitting, use lumbar support in chair and gel pad for seat. I walk around for 5-10 minutes. Walking is not so bad but I don't do 2-3 miles at a time. I do chiro and PT weekly, and in PT and at home work on stretching, they adjust & stretch ME and I work on core strength. When I have low back pain an ice gel pack is my friend! No sciatica or piriformis for some time, but have off & on bottoms of feet numb-ish and stabbing pains in bottom of foot or toes. Doesn't last long and am good about monitoring it. I do not lift up high overhead, arch backwards or lift (unless I HAVE to) more than about 20 pounds, and I lift properly. Thanks again. SINCE BRAD did not have time to mention it, some common causes are: Sitting daily for long periods with poor posture, lifting things over time the wrong way, the "aging process" and degenerative arthritis, combined with weak core muscles. Often, people with disc issues low back - often L4-5 area also have cervical C5-7 and in many cases also S1 area issues as well. Goes with the degeneration and also poor posture! Many patients will also have anterior tilted pelvis, tight hip flexors (basically the iliopsoas muscles), and hamstrings and quads. All true for me, but I stretch them daily!
Thanks for extra helpful info.
Perfect explanation
I wish I knew how to straighten my core muscles,
Ty sounds like we’re living the same dream 🥹😂
Post TLIF surgery in 2017 after living with right pars defect and stage one spondylolitheses for 17 years. Just started a new job after shifting 4 stone in weight and feel like a new man and am looking forward to life finally!🇬🇧
Excellent !!!!
Has it gotten better now. Do you recommend the surgery?
I fell down a staircase when I was 11. My parents thought I was faking the pain for attention for three years and by the time we actually found out what was wrong it was too late to do anything because I waited so long and finished puberty before finding out it was broken. Every day of my life has been agony, and it's gotten worse in the last 6 months. I can feel it shifting and sometimes the legs go numb. I can't stand for more than 10 minutes.
To clarify I ain't blaming my parents because that would be an 11 year old thing to do.
I understand blaming them. My mom hid her pregnancy and bound her stomach with me in utero. The result is my right foot turned in at 9 o'clock. They straightened my foot but never addressed my pronation. I have, had life long pain & developed early spongy as a result. 70s doctors probably didn't even know treatments.
I am 64 and need my 4 th surgery. I need to lose about 45lbs before they will do it. Need to fuse L3 to L2. I also have osteoarthritis and bone on bone in my knee. Constantly in pain. I recently found your channel. Thank you for all the info!
VERY VERY helpful!!! Thanks, guys!
Oh thank u so much
Very informative videos. I like how you two made your videos funny but seriously at the same time. Im a military and recently I have permanent profile for my running. My alternative event is walk 2 1/2 mile at specific time. The problem is my lower back hurts when I walked one mile. What can be my lower back problem?
Thank you.
I know this is for people, but it is amazing how pets get the same thing. My 7 year old Dutch Shepherd has Lumbosacral disease, Spondylosis and narrowing of the disk joints. She is on meds and limited activity. Wish some of these things would work for her.
Common among larger breads and also some smaller breeds of dogs. Also what vets like to call "hip displasia" but that tends to be hereditary.
@@dennistesdell3243 I agree. My German Shepherd I had ended up having fused disks and her hips gave out in the end. Just so sad when they can't tell us what hurts.
Bob and Brad,Can you tell me anything about Tarvo Cysts in Spine? At your Earliest,convenience. 😊
Excellent Video.
So where is the link for the cool pack that you mentioned with the leg wedge? Love using the stretch out strap!
I love you guys
Good day, thank you for the video, ive learned a lot. Just a quick question can riding a bike, motorcycle, ebike can increase the pain. Here in the philippines the roads are not smooth so i am thinking that it could be the cause why the pain went back. Thank you.
Why am I so pleased by the theme song?
I see you guys changed your name on here......is there a reason why? I do like this name and the other name you used. Also, love how you have improved the sound.....for quite a while.....think you guys are making these professional looking......Love it....keep up the good work.....love watching your videos. Thank you for making them..... :)
I have spondy grade 2 and recently had an awful flare up with stenosis ! I am grateful for you guys! I want to get the other items you are sharing for my use at home -
I just got diagnosed with grade 2 and one advice is surgery and another is passive treatment. What path did you choose?
Hoping to go down the passive treatment path as the first step - hopefully only step for at least now. Would like to avoid or delay surgery as long as possible
@@jeffmendoza6556 I just try very hard to not mess my back up... and am grateful for these exercises Bob and Brad out on here. I had one Doc tell me that a better bed would help and she was right. I try hard to keep posture good, bought a special pillow for the car... a wedge pillow for when I have soreness... ice it sometimes ... never wear heels... anything else that the doc has told me is basically they can do tests or RX or procedures, right? So... turning to Bob and Brad is my best hope and it has been super. I cannot really do sports, but do walk and can dance! Can swim some strokes but certain ones hurt my neck, which is separate thing. Good luck to ya! I hardly ever have to use Advil anymore... I am so good at knowing now how to get things back in kilter when they go off kilter. Do not lift heavy stuff, make my kids help.
@@jacquelineshelagh thanks for the advice and hope! I don't get any pain just some stiffness and numbness on the right lower calf and top of foot. My calves and ham string seem to get tight very easily after running or standing for too long. I am just suprised the recommendation was surgery off the bat. I will get a second opinion and quit running and take up swimming to see if that improves the issue. I will look to work on posture management, core strength over the next few weeks and will not lift anything heavy from now on!
@@jeffmendoza6556 Yeah, i get stiff too. The Bob and Brad stretches for hip flexibility might help. I really enjoy pulling the leg back in those stretches... I went to a Chiro for a few sessions and did not like some of the rougher stuff they did at all. Scared me into quitting, but if you do go, perhaps they can stretch out your body a bit, it really helped in those kinds of moves. No quick adjustments for us spondies , ( My own opinion of course!) I recovered from that but did not like it. I really also feel so much better off DAIRY ( All milk products, even when it is just a small amt in the facility of processing. Also Avoid gluten. These things do cause inflammation, and you can find lists online of loads of other diet changes to decrease inflammation . I had to start going to a naturopathic doc due to thyroid problems and it is just one more person in my support for over all health. I constantly am reading and keeping aware of my good days and bad days, looking at what I had the previous day. I have to be pretty careful. Could be helpful for you, maybe not needed. I just know someone told me about this and it took me YEARS to give in and finally try it. So, one thing at a time if you do start avoiding foods and try to make it fun. Good luck! Glad to help .
@@jeffmendoza6556 by the way, was this an obvoius injury that brought on the visit to the Doc, or was it gradually developing? Mine was not too noticeable til I was rear ended at a red light. The docs told me my athletic body had kept it in check for years ( Old Volleyball injury I think caused it... bent backwards in a fall ) but the accident weakened all my soft tissue support. I did have tingling in my feet when sleeping certain ways but could usually get rid of that by walking around and moving. Your numbness .. yeah go to more docs and read lots... I found out so many things by reading about other folks' experiences. Some regret doing sports as it can make things get worse.. So we adapt . I think Brad and Bob really are a godsend!
Are these exercises also good for Spondylosis? Thank you.
Just got diagnosed with a slip at L 4. I'm having the biggest pain in my R buttock with attendant pain sometimes in my quad or the R front side of my lower leg. Not having big back aches. I'm a fitness instructor so core work is a mainstay in my workout. Taking naproxin sodium for inflamation. That is helping somewhat but I have had to give up my dance classes for the time being. Any ideas:
Thank you all so much. I have two. One of them s1 l5 is a third degree and a second degree between L 3 & 4. Ive been in horrible pain 5 the point of screaming when i wake up. No dr will take me because Im self pay. Its hard to even stand to do dishes. Been getting around on a task chair with rollers n barely leave the house. Im gonna check out the exersizes and anything else you think of that could help please share! Thanks
Angie witchmoon73 Homan hope you get relief ! I love these guys and all they give us free of charge - hope you can get a little better-🙏
Bob and Brad what should I search for to get a infra red heating pad?
Just diagnosed with this plus arthritis and bone spurs. The channel that runs out from the vertebrae for the nerve is about half blocked. Spine doctor says there is no exercise to prevent further deterioration...she says it will get worse no matter what I do.
I'm hoping she's wrong.
Do one for retrolisthesis please! I found out I have that as well as severe spinal stenosis l5/s1, 3 bulging discs l5/s1, l5/4 and l4/3. I already do l your recommended exercises for stenosis but if you've got a few tricks up your sleeves, please share. You both have been a godsend to me since I started watching your videos a couple of years ago, I really appreciate you both, definitely good guys making the world a better and fitter place xx
Nice! When are you getting dr. McGill on the show?
🙋♀️I had no idea I had this problem until I gave birth and was walking with a bad BAD tilt for a year and got xrays and yup I'm going through it
Best of luck!
Yep me too! I was38 when I had my son. Bent down to tie his shoe and I couldn't stand up! Wanted me to have surgery. But I couldnt afford it. Found these guys and they gave really helped me. Along with the TENS unit I have come a long way with managing my pain. Good luck n God Bless
The same happens to my, I started with this problem 4 years ago when i had my second baby.
For injuries I've read you want to keep that body part elevated above your heart but I have never known why that is.
Once u get nerve pain is it possible to make it go away without surgery cuz mine is only grade 1 but I still get nerve pain so I feel like it’s overboard to do surgery but idk how to stop the nerve pain
Hello my mom was diagnosed with spondylolisthesis g1 but she was diagnosed also with Breast cancer we dont know how to deal since she suffer also with her cancer.
cold vs hot pack for Grade 1 pain, which to choose?
You guys are great! My husband has diabetes he's very poor circulation in his feet. Could he use that infrared Heating pad on his feet to help with circulation?
I would get advice from your Dr. first on this to be sure.
I was just diagnosed with this, isthmic spondylolisthesis. The pain came out of nowhere, started with sciatica symptoms, gradually built up to severe/disabling. I also have hyperlordosis deformity so my doctor is very worried that's making it worse and it sounds like I'll need surgery
I can't even carry a bag of shopping pain is horrendous I'm gaining weight through gabapentin I can't walk 50 yards without pain,I can't live like this
How are you doing now? I've been living with this for many many years and it's awful. The weight gain due to inability to walk and exercise is only making everything worse. Hoping the exercises on this channel help me. I'm at my witts end.
Sir i have spondelethesis L5overS 1seems some thing pressing at the back. Pain in left leg
Hi Guys great show, I have like you a spondy at L5 s1, grade 2, no disk left, pars defect. I'm taking medication for nerve pain otherwise I cant sleep due to pain. I was very active, lifting weights, walking ect. I'm still walking but no lifting now due to increased pain. My nerves are being squashed on one side. Is it possible to reverse this damage using your exercises? I have been doing core work for atleast 6 months now.
I'm thinking to have a fusion next year if the pain doesn't lessen.
Hola , mi caso fue muy similar , espondilolistesis grado 2 , para l4 y l5, solución por dolor de más de 10 años ,cirugía con cápsula y varillas de titanio , post operatorio doloroso , mucha kine pero se fue el dolor aprender a volver a caminar ahora súper bien
Same here, have you asked about the surgery prognosis? I have read that it affects bending... dont know how much though...
How are you doing now? I have the same issue. Did you get the surgery?
Just found out I have this legs are weak and left leg numbness surgeon says he can't do surgery so I am trying anything to help it effects my daily life thanks for the video
Hi.. after watching one of your videos I ordered a foam roll..I have been using it for a few days now..it's efficient and effective but is it safe to use for a youngster like me? I am 16. I had to get a foam roll because I was expiriencing back pain and stiffness..but is it only designed for older people or can I use it to from time to time too?
My wife has this condition. We bought the lumbar and leg support. We're considering the thermotex heating pad. Reading some of the reviews one person mentioned that the manufacturer says that you cannot lay on the pad and that the three heating elements are hard and uncomfortable to lay against. Do you use the infared pad only when sitting?
Both Bob and I use it regularly in a recliner, on upper and lower back respectively with no problems at all. I so no reason why you couldn't use laying, except to avoid sleeping with it under you for hours is not recommended.
@@BobandBrad Thank you.
What about focal fat lesions.
Do you have stage 2?
So if the surgery can make you a lot closer to 100% why not do it? I have spondylolisthesis because of a crack fro. Trauma. I constantly have pain and have to gontonthe chiro at least once a month. It slips out contantly
I cant lay down anymore, pain 9 and 10 ,night n day
Where are your video exercises?
chat gpt summary
The video titled "Spondylolisthesis Relief! 7 Real Life Tips to Stop Pain & Regain Normal Activity- Real Patient - RUclips" features Bob Shrum, a physical therapist, who discusses spondylolisthesis, a condition where the vertebrae shift and the disc is absorbed by the body. He presents seven tips to relieve pain and regain normal activity, which include avoiding activities that increase back pain or nerve irritation, doing exercises to strengthen core muscles and improve posture, and seeking professional help from a doctor or physical therapist. The video also includes a demonstration of a modified spine model and mentions a stretch out strap giveaway. Bob Shrum shares his personal experience with the condition and how he was able to regain his normal activity level with a proper protocol.
Lord I have this it torches me as we speak ..
I got surgery 10 years ago when I was a teenager (L5-S1 fusion) and I've been mostly pain free (before the pain was unbearable). I lost a bit of flexibility but can do most of the stuff just fine, although some numbness comes and goes to the right leg. Do you have any advice for those who had to go through surgery? Thanks!
Which medicines you used
Am now painful
@@aaachannel2741 I have no pain, just numbness. No medication helps with that. In your case take a look at McKenzie exercises
My l5 s1 is bad on myself ...
Sorry infra red hot pack- which brand?
Below the video click on SHOW MORE. You will see the link there.
i am in grade 2 . too much pain m suffering
Brad share your personal workout video
I have most of them out already, but not organized. Will work on this.
Thanks your workout will be very helpful....
I cant dance anymore 😔 i have grade 1 on L5 and its so sore. Im depressed and dont know what to do. ugh Im doing a pelvic thrust snd holding it upward but I dont know if it will work. Stared collagen and silica for bone/cartilage help...im desperate at this point.
Hi... So what is ip? How are you now???
Any better now?
Can Spondylolisthesis (at L4--L5 discs) cause instability in the SI joint also under certain conditions?
I was diagnosed with L4-L5 spondylolisthesis few years back. I recovered. However, recently I carried my laptop bag on one shoulder and held a light suitcase in the other hand while traveling. When I got back, my left hip felt stuck, stiff and painful. It was as if the left hip/ilium was misaligned. I couldn't sleep on that side for almost a week. It was scary. I little better now and have resumed Zumba.
What can I do to stabilize my back, my SI and hips?
I miss my zumba from having this at L5. Do you have any tips on your recovery? Thank you!
@@carichaos1651 I took some physiotherapy under an orthopedic doctor's advice. Then I started few exercises to ease the pain and for spinal mobility. It took a couple of months to resume my old exercises. Zumba came much later. I constantly have to do some exercises like neutral spine or pelvic rise, etc. for my spine. But I can't do some exercises like back bends that could strain my lumbar back. Bob and Brad's channel have some good advice for conditions like this.
So many items that would make my life bearable if only I wasn’t on disability and poor. I’m a glutton for punishment on yard work too. No one else is gonna get things done. With spondy, do you hear a lot of clicking? My disc is almost gone and I hear deep clicks when moving certain ways.
I do not have audible clicking but it does not surprise me. Typically if there is no pain with the clicking, it is not a problem.
I'm trying to get disability now because I cannot work. Can I get surgery for it if I do get disability insurance? I want to be able to get it fixed and get a normal job like everyone else.
I have that and I can't walk or stand long at all.
Do you know what caused your condition?
@@zenos790 no but I have multiple connections including Trigeminal Neuralgia, fibromyalgia on top of that
My legs have almost quit moving.....left leg is very weak...drags a little..several pinched nerves
Have you tried seeing a chiropractor and getting PT?
My right leg is numb at times,,,barely can walk,,,use a rollator alot. Feels like my right leg will buckle, so unstable ,,I hurt a lot . I accidentally dropped on my r. foot a 10 lb fan! Was awfully bruised- didn't have it checked out at
all ! Have foot drop,,r. foot,,can't even step in and out of bathtub for a shower! Why does my right leg,clickety clicks alot when walking? Scares me!! I'm moreHouse bound now,,,. Feel like he!!!!
That modified spine would have shown the spondylolisthesis so much more clearly if you hadn't tried to color it.
Too much chit chat! I just wanted to know the exercises!
🤣🤣🐶🤗
Lol
That isnt a real patient bob cmon
It is to me. The diagnosis is very real.
Too much blah blah
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