I don't like the squinch for corporate headshots. I look at that expression in those headshots 11:30 and I think, I don't want to do business with that person, they look mean and not approachable. I was a professional high fashion model and it's okay to not look approachable when wearing luxury clothing but most people in business, should look friendly and warm.
Getting ready for my first corporate headshot shoot, this was very clear and useful advice! Any tips on how to get the subject to relax? I find that a lot of people are very tense in front of a camera. I usually crack some jokes to lighten the mood and catch an honest smile, but that's not really the look to go for in a corporate shoot...
Very cool. So much info on lighting. Contrast vs clarity. 🤯. “The expression we’ll work on in a second.” 😆. That’s so cool to see the background how these head shots work. Awesome job you guys! 🙌🏽
OMG, never do this to a man. There's a reason it felt unnatural (7:19). I cringed when he did this to you Javier. Turning a man's shoulders away from the mainlight and then turning the face back toward the light is FEMININE. Period.
Hi I've been doing freelance photography since 5+ years. But freelance does not always provide same amount of work/ income. My question is - Should I start a photo studio?
It's ok, some of the direction for posing is good but the way he communicates with the subject isn't. Squinching is a made up term by Peter Hurley and he shouldn't use it as if he made it up himself. Give credit where credit is due. Second you don't pose corporate people with attitudes like actors. Hes using Perter Hurley's methods for posing for actor headshots and claiming it as corporate, which it's not. The expression you want to achieve for a corporate headshot is different than an actor. As you can tell by your final image it looks more like an actors headshot or model pose than a corporate headshot. Cheers
Seems disingenuous not to mention Peter Hurley when you not only focus on his process but you even uses his terminology. Give credit to who you learned from. Doesn't make your showing people how to accomplish it any less valuable.
I really appreciate all the specific modeling direction details given in this video, the photographer goes to much more detail than most people in other similar videos; however, I really HATE the poses and the looks he gets from them haha :(
I'm a former professional model turned photographer in my old age. Don't tell people to squinch, it looks bad 11:30. Nobody wants to look like that in their headshot.
Update: I photographed 38 headshots today and I didn't tell anyone to squinch and the headshots look great. People were really happy with their headshots!
Mate - great video but your sensor is extremely dirty! Ikes & Yikes - content is really good but oye - soo distracting to have that messiness. I'm sure you would fixed this?
This is a great video marred only by the fact that I noticed the dust on your sensor near the end of the video and then went back to realize it's there through most of the video on that camera.
Thanks Lincoln! When I finished this one I sat back and thought, I think this is legitimately a good video, people can get a lot of info from this one. And the whole no photo thing happens to me as well, pulled stills from the video all the time.
I would like to find more info on Joseph Odea and how he coaxes the poses. I cannot find any info on him and would like to know a lot more on how to pose my models and what to say to them....The reason behind the different positions are so import....Can you help!!!
Prefer my corporate male subjects to be posed in a manner which makes them look confident and manly. All fancy lighting but the important information about the head tilt for male and female subjects ignored and the difference it makes in the height of the camera in relation to the subjects eyes.
You mean, you don't ask your clients to do the squinch? ha ha, I know I sure don't and won't if they look like this 11:30. Nobody wants to look like that in their headshot.
When describing the lens he's using Joe says it's an F/4 "minimum aperture." I know what he means, in that "4" is the lowest aperture number, but this is incorrect and misleading when in fact f/4 is the lens's maximum or widest aperture. I would expect a professional to get that right.
First set of head shots were in the feminine tilt. Second set was better. Also should not be able to see the refraction between frame of glasses and your right eye. Your head should have been further around. The information was there but the results were not. But that is not to say that the client would not like the images. Just offering some additional critique. Continued good luck in the future.
@@patrickburns7701 I'm not a photographer by trade (video editing and videography is more my cup of tea) so all of this makes sense, plus I like any feedback at all, I thought it was on point!
I photograph CEOs pretty regularly in Cincinnati for Biz Journal. Sometimes I have 5-10 minutes max. I don’t think I could ever ask any of them any of these posing tips or any of the executives I shoot. Seems really unnatural. I get a lot of corporate jobs from these quick shoots and landing more work is always a possibility so being self aware of your actions is important. Trust me, asking a CEO to lean in or do that eye thing will be a mistake.
You're 100% wrong. That's an excuse you're telling yourself. You don't ask them because you're not confident in your abilities. I shoot corporate all the time and CEO's and they'll do anything I ask them to do. It's about confidence and knowing the result you're achieving for them. Nobody has ever told me no or said I'm not willing to try that. Sounds like you need to work on your posing. Once you know for sure the way you pose people always get's the best result you will have no problem telling them what to do because you know it will get them the best result.
Todd J Surber You’re 100% hilarious. Sure, you can tell a CEO to stick his head out drop their chin and look like a jackass but there’s no need to. CEOs get photographed all the time. I promise my laid-back approach and speed has gotten me callbacks with multiple companies and I didn’t need to force them into weird poses. Look, I’ll be brutally honest that I was overly critical but this shit is silly, plain and simple. I also find it hilarious that you’re coaching me while not knowing anything about me or my photographic history.
I think it's a bad idea entirely, because all they're actually doing is creating a situation where employers are going to judge people by their appearance, rather than their qualifications, and that is a form of discrimination. And what happens if two people who have the exact same qualifications apply for the same job? Who will get the job then? Answer: the one who looks better. It's amazing to me how stupid people are when they assume they're doing a good thing, but don't bother to examine the underlying consequences. The truth about this is, they are creating a whole new facet of discrimination, one which will most likely have to be made illegal one day.
Never thought about it this way, thanks for brining it up Nun. For this situation, organizations hire photographers to come take professional head shots of their existing employees. For example, my current profile pic was the headshot from last job when I was already working there. I don't think it is necessary to include a picture of yourself when applying for a job in most situations unless you needed headshots for media/model/marketing related.
@@JavierMercedes As far as I'm aware they do that for security badges, but when it comes to posting pictures on their website, they only do it for the benefit of management and to make the company look good, but never for the rest of the employees. Regardless, people are including a little picture of themselves on their resumes, or are posting them online at sites like LinkedIn. Shall only the "beautiful people" be the only ones to be considered for employment? And most everybody knows never to judge a book by its cover, but this headshot thing allows for that. Plus it allows for racism. "Oh I don't want to hire that guy because he's black, or Chinese, or Indian, or Puerto Rican." And then there's also the physical discrimination. "Oh I don't want to hire that woman because she's fat, or has acne, or she's just plain unattractive." This entire thing defeats equal employment opportunity in ways lawmakers never considered, all day long.
Great video! I'm going to try some of these tips out. The only thing that I noticed that wasn't mentioned in the comments is the dust/dirt on the lens or sensor. Otherwise, great work!
He can have all the credit in the world for making his clients look like this 11:30. As a former professional fashion model and who's been around professional photography since birth because that's what my Dad does for a living. Just say not to the squinch. Another example of how people copy bad examples of things they saw on social media, right up there with applying makeup with a tampon as demonstrated by an Instagram beauty guru imo LOL.
I could see that, but I like the idea of having flexibility of a zoom in the studio when doing product shoots daily. Joe is able to get through more pictures in a day that way, But I'll let him respond if he comes by the comments again.
A prime 50mm on a full frame camera would NOT be a better choice. When shooting a tight headshot a 50mm will introduce some distortion- exaggerating those features nearest to the camera. If shooting a prime you would be wanting an 85mm or greater prime. But when in the studio a quality zoom really does offer some nice flexibility (unless your goal is an extremely shallow depth of field).
Thanks so much to @josephodea for showing me all the tips and tricks to corporate headshot photography, what an info packed video!
how big is that softbox?
I agree that super wide f stops are not necessary. I almost never shoot wider than f.5 or 5.6, and my Nikon 24-120 mm f.4 seems super sharp at f.5.
I don't like the squinch for corporate headshots. I look at that expression in those headshots 11:30 and I think, I don't want to do business with that person, they look mean and not approachable. I was a professional high fashion model and it's okay to not look approachable when wearing luxury clothing but most people in business, should look friendly and warm.
Getting ready for my first corporate headshot shoot, this was very clear and useful advice! Any tips on how to get the subject to relax? I find that a lot of people are very tense in front of a camera. I usually crack some jokes to lighten the mood and catch an honest smile, but that's not really the look to go for in a corporate shoot...
If I had a dollar for every time someone says I have this expensive equipment , but you don't need it.
I tell all my headshot clients to do the squinch.
That's a whole lot of information Peter Hurley has been teaching & sharing for many years now. In fact he's even trademarked the squinch.
Very cool. So much info on lighting. Contrast vs clarity. 🤯. “The expression we’ll work on in a second.” 😆. That’s so cool to see the background how these head shots work. Awesome job you guys! 🙌🏽
Hahaha yeah my expression was so serious in the beginning. Thanks for watching Raul! And glad it gave some insight.
OMG, never do this to a man. There's a reason it felt unnatural (7:19). I cringed when he did this to you Javier. Turning a man's shoulders away from the mainlight and then turning the face back toward the light is FEMININE. Period.
Hi I've been doing freelance photography since 5+ years. But freelance does not always provide same amount of work/ income. My question is - Should I start a photo studio?
It's ok, some of the direction for posing is good but the way he communicates with the subject isn't. Squinching is a made up term by Peter Hurley and he shouldn't use it as if he made it up himself. Give credit where credit is due. Second you don't pose corporate people with attitudes like actors. Hes using Perter Hurley's methods for posing for actor headshots and claiming it as corporate, which it's not. The expression you want to achieve for a corporate headshot is different than an actor. As you can tell by your final image it looks more like an actors headshot or model pose than a corporate headshot. Cheers
"Squinch" is a Hurleyism! Good video.
Thanks Frank! Squinch for prez
Seems disingenuous not to mention Peter Hurley when you not only focus on his process but you even uses his terminology. Give credit to who you learned from. Doesn't make your showing people how to accomplish it any less valuable.
Could this guy parrot Hurley material any more? Too bad he can’t pull it off. Horrible direction and zero energy. Good grief.
This is so amazing!!!! .... I learn so much from this .... thanks so much
Not a problem Jerian! Joe is a great photographer
Super happy to know you are still at it, you are amazing Javier!
You as well Chrome!
I have a 42 magmod softbox a curve eye reflector and reflector on the side would you use the 42 or the 24 softbox.
I really appreciate all the specific modeling direction details given in this video, the photographer goes to much more detail than most people in other similar videos; however, I really HATE the poses and the looks he gets from them haha :(
I'm a former professional model turned photographer in my old age. Don't tell people to squinch, it looks bad 11:30. Nobody wants to look like that in their headshot.
Update: I photographed 38 headshots today and I didn't tell anyone to squinch and the headshots look great. People were really happy with their headshots!
bokeh @ f8? That ain't much of a bokeh... cool vid - thanks guys!
wow really incredible shots. so much to learn from you guys. big thumbs up!
Globe Trotter That’s all Joe, he really knows his stuff.
This was such a frigging great video!!! Ugh both of you were awesome!
Thanks Kevin! Glad it could help!
Javier Mercedes I would love to work with you sometime if you’re available!
Javier your channel is rounded!
What lens ?
Mate - great video but your sensor is extremely dirty! Ikes & Yikes - content is really good but oye - soo distracting to have that messiness. I'm sure you would fixed this?
This is a great video marred only by the fact that I noticed the dust on your sensor near the end of the video and then went back to realize it's there through most of the video on that camera.
You are right
@@JavierMercedes I always worry about that.
Thank you a very helpful video as I have some Corporate headshots coming up, no mention of the backlight though?
Great video dude! I have been wanting to do more photography recently. I've gone on trips and not taken any photos...that is such a waste lmao
Thanks Lincoln! When I finished this one I sat back and thought, I think this is legitimately a good video, people can get a lot of info from this one. And the whole no photo thing happens to me as well, pulled stills from the video all the time.
The part where he said "Shhhhtick" gave it away that he is a Peter Hurley fan.
Thanks for uploading, can you give link or size for the reflector you used.
Man, that's a lot to digest. another good one!
Thanks for watching Randy, it blew my mind with all that info as well.
Separate subjects from the background and make the image sharp...gotcha
hummm it's not a Profoto B2...it's a Profoto B1X....
Great video, would love to know what Jo woukd recommend as a lighting setup to begin with
I just saw Joe today, I’ll see if I can get him to swing by the comment section for you Tony!
Alien Bees make pretty solid starters, Elinchrome is a really nice starter as well. Search online, lots of used kits
If your key was roughly f/8, what was your hair light?
Can I ask what lens he was shooting with?
Canon 24 - 105 f4
Cool video nice
Hey! I have a question. How did you hide the reflection of the flash on the eyeglasses? Thank you for this awesome video!
The angle of my head was just right
I love this video man!
Is there a product list of the items he used?
I would like to find more info on Joseph Odea and how he coaxes the poses. I cannot find any info on him and would like to know a lot more on how to pose my models and what to say to them....The reason behind the different positions are so import....Can you help!!!
John Penrose go watch @peterhurley videos you will find what you are looking for
Great video, nice and clear!
You didn’t mention the setting for the 2nd light?
Learned so much! Great video!
Thanks Nimrod, it's jam packed with info.
Prefer my corporate male subjects to be posed in a manner which makes them look confident and manly. All fancy lighting but the important information about the head tilt for male and female subjects ignored and the difference it makes in the height of the camera in relation to the subjects eyes.
Ernest McCreight good to know! Thank you!
You mean, you don't ask your clients to do the squinch? ha ha, I know I sure don't and won't if they look like this 11:30. Nobody wants to look like that in their headshot.
The kicker was way too hot
Is that the one reflecting the light?
Helpful. Thanks.
thanks a lot
Great Video Javier.
Thanks Paul! Glad you liked it.
This was really helpful. Thank you.
Question: How to avoid eye bag shadows please
thanks👍👍
you can try clam shell lighting or some fill with a card. or post retouch
Dropping KNOWLEDGE bro thank you!
Glad it could help!
this one of the best headshot demo videos on the Tube. so many garbage headshot videos out there, but this was well done.
Wow, thank you so much! that is all Joe, he has been taking photos for quite some time!
that was great. I really go a lot out of that actually
Great video, thanks so much for this. Might have a corporate headshot shoot coming up soon so will be using the 'squinch!'
Squinch for life! Comes from a guy named peter Hurley if you want to look up more about it
When describing the lens he's using Joe says it's an F/4 "minimum aperture." I know what he means, in that "4" is the lowest aperture number, but this is incorrect and misleading when in fact f/4 is the lens's maximum or widest aperture. I would expect a professional to get that right.
Nice tutorial
Thanks Davis! Glad you liked it.
First set of head shots were in the feminine tilt. Second set was better. Also should not be able to see the refraction between frame of glasses and your right eye. Your head should have been further around. The information was there but the results were not. But that is not to say that the client would not like the images. Just offering some additional critique. Continued good luck in the future.
Wow, very nice to know, thank you so much!
I did not want my comment to sound like I was bashing you@@JavierMercedes
@@patrickburns7701 I'm not a photographer by trade (video editing and videography is more my cup of tea) so all of this makes sense, plus I like any feedback at all, I thought it was on point!
I photograph CEOs pretty regularly in Cincinnati for Biz Journal. Sometimes I have 5-10 minutes max. I don’t think I could ever ask any of them any of these posing tips or any of the executives I shoot. Seems really unnatural. I get a lot of corporate jobs from these quick shoots and landing more work is always a possibility so being self aware of your actions is important. Trust me, asking a CEO to lean in or do that eye thing will be a mistake.
You're 100% wrong. That's an excuse you're telling yourself. You don't ask them because you're not confident in your abilities. I shoot corporate all the time and CEO's and they'll do anything I ask them to do. It's about confidence and knowing the result you're achieving for them. Nobody has ever told me no or said I'm not willing to try that. Sounds like you need to work on your posing. Once you know for sure the way you pose people always get's the best result you will have no problem telling them what to do because you know it will get them the best result.
Todd J Surber You’re 100% hilarious. Sure, you can tell a CEO to stick his head out drop their chin and look like a jackass but there’s no need to. CEOs get photographed all the time. I promise my laid-back approach and speed has gotten me callbacks with multiple companies and I didn’t need to force them into weird poses. Look, I’ll be brutally honest that I was overly critical but this shit is silly, plain and simple. I also find it hilarious that you’re coaching me while not knowing anything about me or my photographic history.
wrong infos, the body can shoot higher than 1/200 with flash, its call HSS, most flash or studio strobe these days has HSS.
Me : Looks up lens and sees price
Me: Ight immA head out
5:25- its not the camera body that determines the max shutter speed, its the lights not having HSS.
I think it's a bad idea entirely, because all they're actually doing is creating a situation where employers are going to judge people by their appearance, rather than their qualifications, and that is a form of discrimination. And what happens if two people who have the exact same qualifications apply for the same job? Who will get the job then? Answer: the one who looks better. It's amazing to me how stupid people are when they assume they're doing a good thing, but don't bother to examine the underlying consequences. The truth about this is, they are creating a whole new facet of discrimination, one which will most likely have to be made illegal one day.
Never thought about it this way, thanks for brining it up Nun. For this situation, organizations hire photographers to come take professional head shots of their existing employees. For example, my current profile pic was the headshot from last job when I was already working there. I don't think it is necessary to include a picture of yourself when applying for a job in most situations unless you needed headshots for media/model/marketing related.
@@JavierMercedes
As far as I'm aware they do that for security badges, but when it comes to posting pictures on their website, they only do it for the benefit of management and to make the company look good, but never for the rest of the employees. Regardless, people are including a little picture of themselves on their resumes, or are posting them online at sites like LinkedIn. Shall only the "beautiful people" be the only ones to be considered for employment? And most everybody knows never to judge a book by its cover, but this headshot thing allows for that. Plus it allows for racism. "Oh I don't want to hire that guy because he's black, or Chinese, or Indian, or Puerto Rican." And then there's also the physical discrimination. "Oh I don't want to hire that woman because she's fat, or has acne, or she's just plain unattractive." This entire thing defeats equal employment opportunity in ways lawmakers never considered, all day long.
The lack of a strap is giving me anxieties
Great video! I'm going to try some of these tips out. The only thing that I noticed that wasn't mentioned in the comments is the dust/dirt on the lens or sensor. Otherwise, great work!
You are right thanks for watching till the end.
Where are the credits for Peter Hurley?
He can have all the credit in the world for making his clients look like this 11:30. As a former professional fashion model and who's been around professional photography since birth because that's what my Dad does for a living. Just say not to the squinch. Another example of how people copy bad examples of things they saw on social media, right up there with applying makeup with a tampon as demonstrated by an Instagram beauty guru imo LOL.
have to disagree about the lens a prime 50mm would have been better
I could see that, but I like the idea of having flexibility of a zoom in the studio when doing product shoots daily. Joe is able to get through more pictures in a day that way, But I'll let him respond if he comes by the comments again.
A prime 50mm on a full frame camera would NOT be a better choice. When shooting a tight headshot a 50mm will introduce some distortion- exaggerating those features nearest to the camera. If shooting a prime you would be wanting an 85mm or greater prime. But when in the studio a quality zoom really does offer some nice flexibility (unless your goal is an extremely shallow depth of field).
Given that that this is 100% Hurley'esque copied head-shot work, would you not at least mention him somewhere? FFS.
@peterhurley
I didn’t know that at the time of recording this, thank you for letting me know.
@@JavierMercedes No problem, it was the other guy, not you. No worries.
What is the trick to bring the background back to white?