The 7 BEST Armies of Elden Ring [LORE]

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  • Опубликовано: 10 ноя 2024

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  • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
    @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +8

    Ok, this one took a while.
    Hopefully everyone enjoys it. This will be my last Elden Ring video for a while. Time to enjoy space marine 2 lol
    don't forget to like and subscribe!!
    Edit: Also, make sure to leave it in the comments which fighting force do you believe is the best and why, I would love to hear your opinions on it
    Edit 2: This video is not a tier list, although I have my pic for "the best" keep in mind that in war anything goes, Morgot beat Radahn after all. So just to keep clear once again, this is not a "top 7" video or a "tier list" video, but an analyses of the best soldiers the demigods could provide and how truly dangerous and effective they are.

  • @OneLooseGal
    @OneLooseGal Месяц назад +32

    Moongrum cleans house with his nasty parrys

  • @Oblong-Orange
    @Oblong-Orange Месяц назад +17

    All of a sudden I want Elden Ring Total War: The Shattering

  • @kairecheneau9347
    @kairecheneau9347 Месяц назад +8

    Carian knights are one of the strongest elite factions of knights. Don’t forget the cuckoo knights, battlemages, preceptors, trolls, and sorcerers that also made up the rest of the army. Carian have probably the strongest faction

  • @crimtheidiotgenius3694
    @crimtheidiotgenius3694 Месяц назад +4

    The fact that the Black Knights weren’t mentioned is crazy.
    A group blessed with the powers of the crucible as well as GOLD BREAKER, a fighting style exclusive to a literal god. And they weren’t mentioned.

  • @BigBroKuma
    @BigBroKuma Месяц назад +22

    Damn 😭 I thought this was gonna be a video exploring the actual armies like how Mohg has the surgeons, sanguine nobles and the bloody fingers that as a whole form his army. But it's just the 7 best knights 😂 good vid but you kinda got me

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +5

      Sry, I did not intended to clickbait. But the reason I did not go "that deep" in exploring the armies was because it would feel too speculative and prone to head cannon. But, knightly orders are still armies if they are given enough numbers and if they are intended for military purposes. Also, glad you enjoy it 😁

    • @BigBroKuma
      @BigBroKuma Месяц назад +2

      ​@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN Yeah I know 😂 I don't blame you for it. I'm just glad that you even thought of the idea in the first place because this is a really good and unique idea which is why still left a like lol cause this is good content

  • @ichdu-fk6xc
    @ichdu-fk6xc Месяц назад +10

    I think Messmers forces would probably take the cake. They fought a major power and it was so one sided. I think that second to Godfrey’s forces who literally conquered the world Messmers army stands unchallenged.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +2

      To be fair the only reason I did not put them at the very top is because they "only" fought the hornsent. An insane victory don't get me wrong, specially considering the hornsent strength, but the hornsent were weak to fire so...
      I wonder how the fire knights would deal with an opponent who could deal with fire like the redmanes, the Layndell forces and the Carians.
      with that said, their war furnaces are terrifying siege weapons.

    • @padrenuestre
      @padrenuestre Месяц назад +1

      It is interesting how Messmer's soldiers/Black Knights use Godfrey's stomp attack in battle. I like to think Messmer and Godfrey fought side by side in early days as a part of Marika's forces and that's how his men learned that technique.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +2

      @@padrenuestre That is a really good point, we do also find a talisman depicting Godfrey inside the Shadow keep, so likely knew each other, Messmer and Godfrey

    • @BigBroKuma
      @BigBroKuma Месяц назад +1

      Idk man like yeah they fought the hornsent but in the trailer it's highly insinuated that the hornsent didn't stand a chance because they were so heavily outnumbered and a lot of the golden order and their allies lent their forces to Mesmer with examples being Rykard's abductor virgins, the Carians sending some of their forces to assist in the war and the fire golems made from the magic of the fire giants. It was more of a crusade on the part of the entirety of the golden order rather than just a credit to Mesmer's forces alone. Although in my personal opinion I do think Mesmer has the strongest army based on the strength of his generals. But idk how they'd fare against the Carian Knights who were said to be so powerful that despite being outnumbered by the golden orders knights stood their ground and beat back the golden orders armies that assaulted Liurnia beating back the forces that had defeated great enemies such as the dragons and fire giants in the name of the golden order. Or the crucible knights who served Godfrey the "first Elden Lord" and defeated countless foes during the wars that the golden order waged to unify the lands between. Imo defeating the hornsent isn't really that great of a feat as it is also implied that some sort of betrayal occurred and based on the cinematic Marika must've killed their god while they were unaware. So they didn't even have their god to aid them in the war and comparing their strength to the dragons and firegiants idk it just doesn't seem like much of a feat to me. Especially when you consider the fact that compared to all the other factions they didn't have any crazy magic or great champions such as the Carians having Loretta and the golden order having Vyke or legendary champions such as Godfrey, Radhan and Malenia. The only faction which I think the hornsent could beat in an actual war is maybe Mohg's dynasty but even that is in doubt Especially once the formless mother gets involved. Actually I forgot about Godrick's forces 😂 they could probably beat them.

  • @ixiahj
    @ixiahj Месяц назад +3

    Did this combined force try to fight Carian Knights? Based on the lore, Carian Knights were out numbered 10 to 1 but Marika still couldn't overcome the Carians. At lesst not through warfare.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +2

      The full golden host? Probably not, the forces that attack the Carians were led by Radagon, not Godfrey. And apparently the golden order was already established during the Liurnian wars, after the wars of conquest.
      I'm not even sure if the crucible knights ever set foot in Liurnia for war purposes.

  • @EduardoStormrage
    @EduardoStormrage Месяц назад

    Very good analisys, found myself watching from beginning to the end almost not blinking. I missed the Carian Elites, thou very sparce if compared to whole armies, they certainly know how to defend themselves into the field. Really great lore clues about the names and summons involved.

  • @NikhilKumar-wf4gk
    @NikhilKumar-wf4gk Месяц назад +4

    Great video, really entertaining! Apologies for the lengthy explanation, but I thought it was important to cover these points. You mentioned that rot can defeat anyone given enough time, but I think it’s not as unstoppable as it seems. In our world, rot might be deadly, but in the Lands Between, with so much magic-like Carian sorcery, incantations, and dragon spells-it’s just a matter of time until a cure is found. Even Death Blight, which seems incurable, has an incantation that can counter it.
    Mages and scholars in Elden Ring can heal various ailments, and Radahn's Redmane army eventually developed ways to combat the rot. However, the reason Radahn and his forces couldn’t stop the rot in Caelid initially is likely because it was something new during their battle with Malenia. By the time we arrive, they’ve found some solutions, but the battle was so brutal and resource-draining that his army was left severely weakened. The heavy losses and resource shortages could explain their struggle to recover from the rot.
    As for Radahn himself, the rot he faced was probably too overwhelming for any healing incantation to fully reverse. His immense will to fight is the only thing keeping him going, despite his body and spirit being nearly broken.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +3

      Glad you liked mate. And keep the lengthy explanations coming, I love talking about these things.
      But I agree with your points, the rot is not that unstoppable, its just that my point is the fact that to deal with a very skilled and effective elite fighting force while trying to remedy the effects of an aggressive ailment would be difficult to pull off for whoever they besiege.
      The magic of the lands between is very diverse but I wonder how truly effective, in lore, they truly are against the ailment of an outergod.
      We also must consider the morale of the soldiers, because they are the ones taking the brunt of the cleanrots.
      I mean, I'm still impressed that Radahn, THE RADAHN, could not deal with it. And Radahn was lucky for having one the very best armies of the land, excellent soldiers.
      Yes, the lands between have ways of dealing with the rot, but they don't seem to be permanent. So I wonder how even the best healers of Leyndell would deal with it.
      Since the cleanrots never attacked Leyndell we will never know😕
      And the redmanes were also nuked by Malenia herself, they REALLY drew the short end of the stick with that one.

  • @theZXDgames
    @theZXDgames Месяц назад

    Incredible video, but I feel like it treats the conflict between Radahn and his Redmanes and Malenia and her Haligtree host as if the latter had won, when it ended with no victor, as a draw, and no indication is ever made that either side had an advantage over the other. They were evenly matched, as were their demigods.
    People claiming that either Malenia or Radahn won because the former is undefeated and the latter “forced” her to an aeonia are misinterpretating events and texts.
    Undefeated doesn’t mean that you won everything, it means that you haven’t lost. If you draw or fall into a deadlock, you’re still undefeated. And we have no indication on whether the scarlet aeonia was a last resort or intentional move, with opinions being based on the trailer cinematic seeming like voluntary transformarion or Malenia’s second phase springing from her first’s defeat.
    And the scarlet aeonia didn’t inflict defeat solely upon the redmanes, but to all forces. It seems that where it sprung, none survived but a scant few Cleanrot Knights, not particularly because they’re strong, but due to their natural resilience against the rot.
    If Malenia had an entire Haligtree army with her, and I believe she did because knights are too few to face an entire army, such as the Redmane’s, then it was wiped out alongside much of Radahn’s forces, the remainder of which staying in Caelid to contain the spread of the rot, successfully so too.
    No one walked out of there with either a tactical or strategic success, both armies failed, and their actual leaders both did not walk out of there at all. Malenia was dragged and Radahn now crawls.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад

      Yeah, I never said any of them won that fight, I said the redmanes drew the short end of the stick since they were ones who were sieged, they were the ones who had their homes blighted and they were the ones who were forced to deal with the rot after all the chaos, the Haligtree on the other hand is still in "one pice"
      Strategically though, I still would say the cleanrots won since recent lore states that Miquela wanted Radahn to die in order to ascend. He may not have died then and there but die he would, eventually. Even without us in the picture Radahn's fate was sealed, we were just the nail in the coffin for him.
      But yeah, butting heads over who won that fight is stupid since Fromsoft left it open to interpretation by design, their method of storytelling is interpretative by design. Technically there is no "canon" in fromsoft games, they built their stories as a way to gives the freedom to create "the canon".
      The truth of that battle is as you said, Malenia nearly die, Radahn went crazy, and nearly died, both armies were reduce to a fraction of their number, Caelid was doom to suffer the rot and Miquella got blue balls for having to wait god knows how long in order to have "his consort".

  • @messirulz100
    @messirulz100 Месяц назад +1

    Carian knights are very powerful they were able to make radagon surrender and made the cuckoo knights look like a joke despite being heavily outnumbered and their ability to turn their enemies into puppets is super underrated

  • @The_Dreaming_Hunter
    @The_Dreaming_Hunter Месяц назад

    It’s funny, Prime Rennala defeated Marika’s unified army and was the only reason the carains were never conquered, to the point that Radagon himself had to join the fight and it’s hinted that he couldn’t even beat her and instead had to resort to repentance and marrying her

  • @michaeljohnston8891
    @michaeljohnston8891 Месяц назад +1

    Some other honorable mentions: the Banished Knights; I put my money on these juggernauts over any other basic knight type enemy, except for the Horned Warriors. So of course, the military of Belurat would be a contender as well. Given that most of them were killed by Messmer, they must have been something fierce in their prime, especially with their Horned Warriors being just a cut below a Crucible Knight, and being more numerous. Then there’s the Carian Knights, who were able to stonewall Marika’s military machine twice

  • @_maaneel_
    @_maaneel_ Месяц назад +2

    I would change the night's cavalry for the carian knights since they are very few and select and they also helped repell the golden host of the erdtree during
    the liurnian wars. Despite that minor tweak, great list and content, keep it up!

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +2

      Good point! I left them out because they did not serve a demigod but the Liurnian wars was an oversight on my part. Well done!

  • @Salss7a
    @Salss7a Месяц назад

    It's no surprise that no one has successfully taken the capital, Morgott has the Crucible Knights, the Night Cavalry, and the Sentinels.
    Malenia has the cleanrots and those two commanders tho...

  • @blujay4797
    @blujay4797 Месяц назад

    cool idea dude. some of my favorite factions with a significant force were the carian knights, the banished knights, and the masoleum knights

  • @yiliu5665
    @yiliu5665 Месяц назад +1

    Bro I actually gasped when I saw u had 376 subs. This is really high quality content. Keep it up

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад

      Thanks, I really appreciate it. TBF, at this point I kinda gave up on fighting the algorithm, I'm just making theses vids because it's surprisingly enjoyable to do it.

  • @bigman7583
    @bigman7583 Месяц назад +2

    Surprisingly entertaining, keep it up champ!

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад

      Thanks bro, I'll make sure to keep at it. Hopefully I can come up with more ideas. also, would appreciate if you could share it 👊

  • @coolerkid7905
    @coolerkid7905 3 часа назад

    Godfrey's Army solo

  • @Lucardini
    @Lucardini Месяц назад

    Don't forget the army of Tarnished warriors that followed Godfrey in his conquest of the Lands Between!

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +1

      The golden host, I briefly talked about them in the video 😁.

  • @emixam6947
    @emixam6947 Месяц назад

    The Needle Knights all got murdered by Leda didn’t they? Wouldn’t that imply they were rather weak?

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад

      Not really. She could have just poisoned them, tricked/betrayed them while in battle against a third party, assassinated them with the help of someone else, we just don't know.

  • @terencebc
    @terencebc Месяц назад

    Wait, so it’s not about the best armies, but the best individual knight class as individuals they have. Fair enough, otherwise the Pureblood & Needle knight wouldn’t even be on the list.

  • @jayemare
    @jayemare Месяц назад

    Algorithm recommended this to me, I'm super glad it did too.
    I hope more people see your work 🔥

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад

      Thanks man.
      I hope more people see it too, but to be honest...
      I kinda just gave up on beating the algorithm at this point. I'm just making these because I like it .

  • @yudi-weiss3827
    @yudi-weiss3827 Месяц назад +1

    I wonder where you would rank godwyn’s death knights, seeing how crazy they are in the DLC

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +2

      As individual fighters, very high. Possibly higher than the crucible knights. But there's only three of them so calling them an army kinda felt like I was lying so...

    • @hanssundqvist1781
      @hanssundqvist1781 Месяц назад

      @@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN I think there is only two of them :)

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +1

      @@hanssundqvist1781 Two we can fight, there is a third in deadlight catacombs, that one is dead but we can get his armor set from the corpse.

    • @hanssundqvist1781
      @hanssundqvist1781 Месяц назад

      @@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN Ahhh yea ok :)
      Btw great video!

  • @victorprati7908
    @victorprati7908 Месяц назад

    Rick, soldier of God is the strongest 👌

  • @geordiejones5618
    @geordiejones5618 Месяц назад +1

    Haven't watched yet but if Messmer's army isn't number one this list is just wrong. It's him during the Crusades and Godwyn during the War of Ancient Dragons who most liekly have the biggest and most terrifying armies not led by either Godfrey, Rennala or Radagon.
    Okay so I guess I thought that you were assessing each major faction's military overall not just the knights. Here's a comment for the algorithm at least.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +1

      Thanks for helping with the algorithm.
      Yeah, this is not a top tier list or a ranking per say. War is far too nuanced for that so I stuck with the elite soldiers the demigods could provide since they are the ones that have most to show, lore-wise.

  • @padrenuestre
    @padrenuestre Месяц назад

    Isn't rot weak to the fire cleansing, even in the game itself? Just burn that rot plague down.

    • @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN
      @DISCOUNTRUSSIAN  Месяц назад +1

      Supposedly. The redmanes have been using fire for a long time against it, with questionable results.
      But here is a catch, lets say the cleanrots attacks and besiege Leyndel. Is Morgot suppose to burn his own city, or the land around it? the same land that brings sustenance to his armed forces?
      Dealing with an ailment like the rot is far more difficult then it lets on.
      Ironically, going on the offensive against the cleanrots before they reach your city, might be the best move, preemptive action let us say.

    • @padrenuestre
      @padrenuestre Месяц назад

      @@DISCOUNTRUSSIAN Messmer's flame isn't just your regular fire tho, it's power is influenced by the outer being (base serpent) and can do funny things not only to your body but to the soul as well. But overall, I think if you're making entire armies face each other you should consider every fraction under each demigod command. For example, Messmer's army includes:
      1. Regular army lead by Gaius and the Black Knights
      2. Fire Knights under Messmer's personal command
      3. Rellana and Carian forces.
      4. Misc. stuff like Fire Golems (I think these guys deserve their own separate slot they're such a menace), Crucible users, etc.
      If Messmer wasn't deeply loyal to his mother Marika (I think he was a part of her own forces alongside with Godfrey in early days, before the crusade) and decided to wage war in the Lands between I think no one would be happy about that. And the guy didn't even get the Great Rune yet, imagine if he did. At the end of the day the reason he was sealed not because Marika didn't like the shape of his horns or whatever but because she feared him, it seems.

    • @adrielortega7352
      @adrielortega7352 Месяц назад

      ​@@padrenuestreMessmer was on the war against the Fire Giants, that's for sure.

  • @Tentrillico
    @Tentrillico Месяц назад

    Awsome

  • @bwaka9178
    @bwaka9178 Месяц назад

    Nah I've seen Ansbach fight in the leda and radahn boss fight. He pathetic as fuck lol.

    • @gimligloinson972
      @gimligloinson972 Месяц назад

      Wdym? He is probs equal to Leda in game and actually helps against radahn with his bleed. Probs one of the most useful summons in the game. Not including when Leda invades him cus bows r simply do not compare to other weapons in the game