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In case you forgot, this game USED to be called "Lords of the Fallen 2". Then it was later re-revealed as "THE Lords of the Fallen" only to finally be rebranded back to "Lords of the Fallen". It as a little weird.
@@robinmattheussen2395yeah we're beyond we are at this point you can't call it a sequel when it's not actually a sequel that doesn't even make sense I don't even know why they would do that they should just call it a remaster it's ridiculous.
As a huge fan of the souls games, i actually really enjoyed this game a lot. It has a lot of depth to the combat, the special moves with weapons and unique abilities were awesome, and the magic is dope. Multiplayer is also done super well. I wish more people just played it and saw it for what it is and now compare every aspect of it to a souls game.
Most got shadowed by Lies of P and the launch issues. The qol changes and the modifiers introduced recently makes it so that it stands amongs the good soulslikes games.
Game is mid, I liked the first one a lot more. Probably because it was “fresh” at the time and there wasn’t a lot of soulslikes. Anyway yea this game disappointed me. I hate how your character feels like he’s on skates when you swing your weapon, I hate the mobs, the lack of variety and ending boss.
Iv been on a huge FromSoft and soulslike run over the last year and enjoyed this game a lot. I thought all 3 of lords, lies, and crabs treasure were all very well done.
I really enjoyed the first one. Just bought this one on sale, and as soon as I'm finished with mortal shell: enhanced, I'm in. Looking forward to the ride.
For the vestige system. there's an explanation. the game was NOT supposed to have any single pre-made vestige like you see now. All vestiges were supposed to be player made, and temporary. that's why the superb inter connectivity between a lot of areas and how every area leads back to the hub, because the hub was the only place with a permanent pre-made vestige. that's also why in NG cycles, the amount of vestiges reduce, leading to zero by i assume NG+3. which is exactly what the devs wanted to be the first NG to be.
I personally found the amount of vestiges so low on ng that I never bothered going ng+ and instead did 3 playthroughs of NG for the endings, especially since I remember the vestige item costing quite a bit and only being able to carry a few. And having to stop to farm to be able to make a new vestige at the next point just does not appeal to me. Still overall quite a good game even on release (Only time I played it).
@@Lux_Ferox They were limited to 5 prior to 1.5 So you had to stop exploring and go buy more. They also aren't very cheap in the early game if I remember correctly and by midgame you no longer need them for anything anyway due to the game getting easier. Checked the price, 1.2k per seed, that's 6k vigor to farm when you wanted to get the seeds, and early game that's not much fun. (again, late game you don't need them anyway). Sure you can kill tthe Red Reaper for the first time and get 5 and have enough left over for 2 more.
while the paths lead back to the hub, having to run through all the shit for half an hour just to get there is pretty shitty and I'm happy the devs didn't go that way for NG and also added a no-vestige-decay modifier because let's be real, this doesn't make the game hard but actually insanely tedious since you have to run around so much without fast travel
Devs were based for trying to recreate the feeling of exploring the world in DeS and Ds1 instead of being just another combat focused soulslike with no soul. With how elden ring turned out even fromsoft seemed to have abandoned that approach. All in favour of accessibility and smoother gameplay while sacrificing immersion@@hundkebab2433
This was one of the best games of the year for me with over 200 hours played. I love the world and general atmosphere and aesthetic. Build variety is great, the combat feels impactful and replayability is up there. Its basically blasphemous in 3d.
I used to talk shit about it when it launched but the game is awesome now. It's not perfect but still so much fun and interconnected world is incredible
Same here. I was part of the "Don't tweak enemy density or Vestiges" gang lol The games polish now after the patches, fixes and updates just makes it better. Time for a replay; this time participating in Coop and PVP fully!
I really enjoyed Lords of Fallen (2023) when it came out. I'm really glad the devs stuck with it and worked on improving the game for the better. I beat this and Lies of P around the same time.. some of the best soulslike gaming ive had lol
Yeah haha I’m on chapter 9 of lies of p. And I just bought lords of the fallen on sale for 34.99. I think lies of p will be the first souls/souls like game that I’ve ever beat. For some reason it doesn’t aggravate me with cheap tricks like other games.
@@tylervincent2559 I'm glad to hear that! I hope you finish it and enjoy it all the way through! Same with Lords of the fallen, especially with all the updates.. should be a smooth ride 😃
LOTF is one of the best non From Soft souls-like to come out in recent years and I don't care what people say about it. This is also coming from a person who started back in the Demon Souls, Dark Souls days before the sub genre even was a thing. I never understood the hate for this game, and for me personally it brought me back to the days of DS1. The lore/setting is great, the visuals are amazing, the art direction is amazing, the armor sets look better then many in souls games, gameplay is slightly more in-depth then the average Souls game, parrying feels better then a Souls game, the weight of attacks feel and look great, some of the main bosses are very cool, its has its very own built in randomizer with modifiers, built in boss rush ...etc, I could go on and on. I understand on launch the game had some performance issues (trust me I was there), but they eventually were smoothed out (at least for me) and outside of performance there is very little I have to complain about this game and at this point I have done 2.5 full run-throughs of the game, as well as tried a rogue-like run in the randomizer, which was some of the most fun I've had this year. To me this game was underrated and overhated, and I'm super glad we may be getting a sequel in the future due to its success.
Totally agree with your comment, this is just like Dark souls 1. I never played demon souls, but I did play dark souls 1 on 2012, and a bit of dark souls 2 on 2014, but I remember in dark souls 2 harvesting was limited, and the world wasn’t as interconnected, so I gave up and never played souls games again cause I knew they’ve already changed. This game is like playing DS1 just bigger, and 14 years later. I thought I was never going to experience that feeling again.
Even Fromsoft has not been able to replicate Dark Souls 1's interconnected world to date. Only Lords of the Fallen has, for better or worse. It stands for something. Its was better than people gave credit for and currently a darn good title after the updates!
Most people expected it be a comparable game to elden ring but there on two different levels where as elden ring is full open world and lotf is not, at the same time they said it would have a harder difficulty than elden ring they delivered it had lots of fun playing this game gave it a platinum too.
My theory is that Lies of P came out just before and it ran perfectly and Lords had some problems. Although I’m sure the online part of the game, the fact that you can coop/pvp across platforms etc had something to do with it especially since it was done by a new studio with ALL of them working from home. Plus I honestly think most of the P purists just want to do the femboy puppet.
Got it on sale. Having a blast. I liked Ds2 despite its flaws so this feels similar. I actually hope things like the streamlined ranged/magic system and more universal Rally and Parry mechanics make their way to soulsborne proper
This game is a lot better than it was at launch. I think it had issues but I noticed a lot of them were what I would call "Review speedrun" issues, which is a big thing with all the YTers trying to get their review out first. When a game is new, there are no guides, so the combination of people trying to rush the game and difficulty often results in complaints. This is why many games are very hand-holdy. But a souls-like game that has more obscure mechanics always gets a lot of flak. Even Elden Ring got a fair share of complaints, such as the whole Margit slow attack / difficulty complaint, which was a result of people immediately running to Stormveil castle. The critics were drowned out by the positivity surrounding Elden Ring, and that in itself is a review feature. If a game is clearly very popular, reviewers are much more likely to give issues a pass. You could theoretically get identical games, one from a popular developer and one from an unknown developer, and despite critics identifying exactly the same issue, the one from the popular developer will still get 9/10 despite issues, and an identical game with the same issues from an unknown developer will get 6/10. None of this is to say Lords of the Fallen didn't have issues, I just think many of the reviewer criticisms were the game wasn't identical to a From Soft game and reviewers couldn't rush to the end. Remember that Dark Souls got mixed reviews at first. It wasn't until popular opinion shifted after a year or two that it suddenly became the best thing ever, despite a lot of genuine flaws.
You wasted so much time when you could have just said lords of the fallen isn’t a good game. You tried comparing it to Elden ring? What? This game didn’t review as good because it isn’t as good, Elden ring someone complained about a boss being too hard which is a good thing, you kinda missed the point in that. Tbis game was complete trash, and scored to show it.
@@zeikersit’s anything but trash. I went to ng+1 on Elden Ring after the DLC and found it so boring I bought LOTF. I’ve completed the game twice and am on the third run now. Where LOTF really shines is the online play once you’ve finished your first run. Tonnes of ‘fun’ - something I most certainly wasn’t having during the ER replay. If ER had an echos of battle mode I don’t think ng+ would be worth playing at all.
@@79bull As the guy in the original comment said, it is the same game as dark souls 1, the dark souls that became a cult game, which is the first souls I ever played and got me hooked as no other soulslike could. I stopped playing soulslikes since dark souls 2 (a bit of Sekiro but I never felt like when I played DS1. This one is the real continuation of dark souls 1, this game gives that true DS1 feeling.
Half!? Xbox achievements say I was one of 0.8% to get Umbral ending. I think achievements for early bosses were below 20 even 10% of players. It’s obvious ppl who hated on it didn’t give it a fair shake
@@Rex0rSRK Agreed, I think some even dipped as low as FIVE PERCENT I played it on a Series X with Crossplay active and I was getting quite a few Playstation players, when I'd summon Lampbears it would take like 5-10 minutes, I only had a handful of fights where I needed help BUT it was funny when one person who got summoned was lower than me cause he was just like "NOPE" and left the game after our first ASS KICKING Vs. a boss🤣
To unlock the pathway which leads to The Castle interior you need to cleanse the five beacons BUT once you do that the door in front of the gated elevator (the one you took after beating The Skinstealer) becomes sealed with an Umbrell Guardian so you've got to all the way back to where you fought the baby and kill your way to the arena where The Lightreaper will be waiting for your third & final encounter with him unless you killed him already
I really loved this game. The original "Lords of the Fallen" will always hold a special place in my heart, because it's the first "soulslike" I ever played back in 2015, and it's what led me to Dark Souls II & the Souls genre in general!
Hah! Exact same situation with me, around the same time too! The original Lords of the fallen was my first souls-like and was close to my heart, and led me to start with dark souls 2, then 3, and then to 1 😂.
This game is awesome if you havent played it yet its deffinatly worth. I have done three full playthroughs and about 200 hours in and would play it again too. Not really buggy any more like it was at launch. Very cool game.
I got it on some small sale and after 1.5 patch, and never looked back. yes, combat needs some getting used to, but once you got it, it is really satisfying.
I love lords of the fallen 2023. The fact that it has so much replay value, great combat & level design Not to mention free events that are permanent rather than timed Unique final bosses & new starting classes based on ur ending completition The mod and randomizer support aswell You can tell this was a labor of love by a passionate studio and I can’t wait for the sequel
Bro, what fucking replay value? There is a token three-way ending cinematic you could just save yourself a lot of time and watch online. All of the gods and all of their followers suck ass, because of course they do, because it's the generic FROM edgelord nonsense. The game's story is so fucking bad going through it once is painful enough, ditto with the non-boss combat (bosses are actually mostly cool - I'll give the game that!) and the five or so enemy types get stale even before you're half way through the game, much less replaying it lol. I seriously would love to be on the same hype train half the Souls community is on, I really would, but this game is absolute dogshit compared to even Mortal Shell, much less actually truly competent soulslikes (that still have flaws, mind) like Lies of P.
I bought it a few months after release. I think it's a great first effort by Hexworks and they did a lot right despite not getting much credit for it. They have lots of room to improve with enemy placement, enemy design, boss fights, ect... but did some really good stuff with the aesthetics, lore, and level design. My favorite thing they did was the spell/ranged system they added that allows you to combo your spells without having to cycle through them with the D-pad.
@@YeOldeMachina CI Games created their own developer Hexworks for this game, allowing customers to believe none of the stupidity from the first game would be carried over, because everyone would think this was separate. Then they very oddly gave the 2nd game the same name, proving that they are weird.
This game is in my A+ tier after all the free great updates and DLC the developer has been constantly releasing since launch. I've invested in it 400h so far and don't regret it at all.
I held off on buying the game at launch because people said it was bad but I got it like 4 days ago and it quickly and easily became my new favorite Soulslike.
Just recently started to play it and everything that threw me off of the game on launch has been addressed and fixed. I am absolutely in love with this game now and recommend others to at the very least give it a try.
@@CrystronHalqYeah that's the net tho. Everyone has an opinion. And and as far as they're concerned it's fact. In real life? Wouldn't say boo to a goose :)
The game at launch was mired by so many issues (for me) outside of the performance issues which built up to spoil the experience from archers that could snipe you from off-screen and see right across the map to the 'estus chug' being quite a long animation and the yeeting yourself off the precarious platforms in the first area. However, I returned to the game with the 1.5 release and the updates they made and QOL changes were great - I've played it with some of the modifiers and also played it a lot in co-op which was a lot of fun. I would agree that most of your criticisms are valid but, like you, I still find the game a lot of fun.
@@bp4861 You’re not wrong but credit where credit is due for this title. They listened and made headway into making it a decent game. No Mans Sky is the pinnacle of this type of developer approach but too many games release in a mess and stay a mess.
@@aryabratsahoo7474 see no offense but you're the problem. It's NOT rare that they stick with a game and it gets better in time. That's literally what happens every time. If you buy a game one year after it came out you are objectively getting a better more fleshed out cohesive product. If you buy a game day one chances are you can't even play it. You sir, are the problem. Instead of "giving credit where it's due" you need to grow up and realize if this was in any other industry there would be lawsuits left and right.
@@bp4861 well jokes on you, I didn't bought it day one. I saw the reviews and decided to not play it. The game just occasionally pops up on my steam feed and I just keep myself up to date with the updates and got it during sale after few patches. Did I contribute to the issue? I did my job as a consumer and made the right decision to wait and see. If you're having an issue with this industry malpractice then "Vote with your wallet" and stop just blaming others or try to make a difference by any other means other than just complaining. Also regarding lawsuits, what about the entertainment(episodic shows and movie) industry? Are there any lawsuits that happened because the movie/series sucked? Just be aware of what you're buying and not pre-order.
I think one of the biggest issues LotF had at launch was everyone wanted another Elden Ring. Its part of the genre, any game that calls itself "Soul's Like" is of course going to be compared to DS and ER. But LotF on its own I always felt held up. Most bosses were really fun and had interesting mechanics, and I also liked how youd run into boss characters that were just suped up versions of an upcoming areas enemies. Weapons felt fun and while not inspired, they still got the job done.
Thanks for the review man. Saw that the game was on sale on Steam and was wondering if it was worth getting now. I've only played for about 4 hours so far but im loving it. Has a really DS3 feel to it combat and world wise and that was my favorite out of the trilogy.
Biggest shame for me here is that while the game looks absolutely incredible, the HUD and some of those text bubble elements that pop up are some of the ugliest I've ever seen. You don't HAVE to copy FromSoft at literally every step, you can make a clean HUD that looks like something from this century, and not just follow something FS have decided to stick with for most of their games. And at least their art style suits that retro HUD thing - when you put it on top of hyper realistic graphics like in this game it's pretty much disgusting.
Yeah its literally immersion breaking. Way too many places leading to dead ends or areas that don't make sense. Was sick at looking for guides on where to go next. I hate looking at guides in general first run but HAD to with LOTF.
Think the issue was it came out around the same time as Lies of P, which overshadowed it since LoP was probably the first souslike that felt fromsoft quality. Since then I know Lords of the Fallen has had a lot of updates, but I don't know how many fixed the core issues of the game which were the floaty combat, enemy placement, and the dual worlds mechanic was was really cool on paper but implemented poorly. I didn't finish Lords of the Fallen but back then I considered it to be about a 5-6/10, not bad just mediocre. I might go back to it once i finish wukong, space marines and astro bot, there's no harm in giving it another chance.
They did fix the critical issues that made the game nuisance to play. Now it's in decent shape, as long as you don't mind some convoluted levels to navigate through. Improved performance and cut down on stuttering, especially on consoles. Lowered enemy density, when it launched it had enemy density fit for a game that is just full co-op and it was a mess. You can still bring it back with game start option, if you want. Since most weapons have forward momentum in their movesets, they made it so that you cannot fall into ravines during a weapon attack. Which was a heaven-sent change. Co-op is now more reliable, it was utter trash before. Bad things: I don't think PVP is fun, with lots of powerful and fast spells. Bosses are still kind of soft-skinned in latter half of the game and some of them just aren't fun/good overall (except the new secret boss they added). Also not a fan of that one quest where you have to summon one NPC to seven different boss fights, and some bosses start spazzing out and are just a nuisance to fight with a summon. Umbral mechanic is used a lot, yet there are very few proper puzzles or interactions there. It's mostly just go in, go back out. Lock-on system can still go haywire, even though it is less sensitive now, at the worst possible time. Certain spells, like Orius' Judgement (homing, overhead, multihitting lightning strikes) and Lucent Beam (instantly activating high damage beam), can still trivialize lot of the content.
I have been thinking a lot about this game lately and I believe the two main reason why many people hated on it were due to the timeline of its release: 1. After Elden Ring got released, many new players joined the ranks of Souls Enjoyers, so they expected Lords of the Fallen to be just like Elden Ring. When they encountered ambushes with many enemies, they weren't ready to accept the challenge because it felt too different from the Elden Ring formula. Yes Elden Ring had ambushes too, but they were often easier 2. Optimisation for the PS5-level hardware was received poorly in 2023, because back then many people still had PS4 consoles or PS4-level PC hardware; So many GTX 1660 past-gen enjoyers complained about the performance
I have a third bro, you ready? 3. It's a boring, shitty game, with far too few enemy types, fairly unbalanced combat, terrible and boring areas, a frustrating "otherworld" system that should have been cool but isn't, every weapon in the class having the EXACT SAME MOVESET, and the story and setting being so generic edgelord grim fantasy that it would be a groan even prior to the FLOOD of similar soulslikes we got in the meantime. There, that okay?
I didn't play at launch but only a month or so ago. The ranged & magic combat systems are the best in any souls-like gane I've played. Also, the setting is really interesting. It goes so much deeper than "demons are here now go kill them".
I pre-ordered this game and waited for months to play it. I, along with countless others were so disappointed it was heartbreaking. I understand it was their first go at souls like gaming, but come on! They lost so many players due to their refusal to bring in people who knew how to fix the countless issues they were having. This game should have been a massive hit but unfortunately the devs allowed this masterpiece to fall by the wayside. Hopefully they release lords of the fallen 2 with the knowledge they gained in the utter disaster the release of this game was. I continued to play and was happy they kept trying to make the game playable. Unfortunately, it came too late as 75-80% of players had already left at that point and I myself left around 2 months after release. This could have been amazing, their next attempt providing they've ironed out the major issues they had will get the respect and acclaim lords 2023 should have received.
Just go back and play it now? It’s basically a finished product. Who cares? I still went back and played Cyberpunk 2077 after they fixed it on consoles…and enjoyed it. I’m doing the same with this game. Stop being a baby.
I did a pre-order too, and my dissapoint was huge at the release and I wasn't play it even 1 hour. A year have passed and I returned to the game and it was very pleasent and exciting journey, the game is rly good.
My biggest issues were the overall movement, floatiness on weapon impacts, and enemy variety. When it comes to souls likes it has to feel very good, and with LOTF it just always felt off.
I felt that way too for awhile, and maybe it's been changed since 1.5 as I only got the game a couple weeks ago. I was even frustrated with the feel of the gameplay at first, it didn't feel like a From game, despite looking so much like a Dark Souls game. But then, something clicked, and the gameplay felt much better. Rather than comparing I began to appreciate it for what it does, ESPECIALLY the parry system, which feels so good. I think the speed of the movement was what threw me off most to start, but now after having gotten used to the mechanics I think they're well done and I am glad it feels so different from From's games. It honestly reminds me a lot of Dark Souls II in a fair amount of ways, but I like it more than Dark Souls II.
@@TijnvanGimstit's not the combat that is floaty , the combat is mostly well done, it's the mouvement that feels floaty , it's similar to dark souls 2 in that sense and both have a similar feel
@TijnvanGimst if you think lotf has no floatiness in its combat just grab a random weapon type (especially short sword and daggers) and swing away and watch your forward momentum slide you across the ground.
I quit this game like at 60 or 70 percent of it.... it is so annoying the fact that you're always fighting the same 2-3 enemies with just upscaled damage and armor
If U enjoyed LOTF . You MUST play the NG+ All bosses will kick your ass it's f awsome . Specially with the new mode like enemy randomized and early game crowd LOTF is on of top 5 best soulslike games ever IMO
This is my favorite soulslike and one of the best "souls" games Ive played, Love the aestethics, the world and the style so much, Umbral was also a refreshing take on the genre, I know the game was bad at launch but most games are nowadays, after extensive patching this game is a must for all darksouls fans! I loved this a lot more than elden ring
My biggest problem was the fact that there were like 10 enemies, it really started to become super annoying in like hour 15+ when you get to a new amazing place and its like the saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame goddamn enemies... Is this still the case or did they actually do something about that too?
I'm going to have to give this another go. I played it upon release, and it was a buggy, but beautiful mess. If they have really improved it, then it deserves another try, just because it seems like a labor of love.
I gave the game a shot for about 10 hours but couldnt do any more. I liked the aesthetics of the game, the grey health mechanic and the separate buttons for spells but that's about it. The combat felt too floaty and while the part of the game i did play was overall easy the difficulty i did feel seemed to come from the sheer number of enemies you would fight at the same time. Probably didn't help that i played this right after lies of p which i clicked with instantly. I couldnt get into this game but im glad you enjoyed your time with it.
Going to start back playing. I’m hoping it plays better than release version. I really wanted to love this game. Those trash mobs always frustrated me. I don’t mind grinding and dying but the distance between rest spots seemed to far. I would find myself running past as many enemies just to find next rest spot!
I'm a nearly 60 grandmother and love this game, however I hate that in order to get platinum, like I did on ER, Lies of P and Wukong, I'd have to play online, which I'm not willing to do. I'm so disappointed in the creators for this 😢.
@ and? That is supposed to make lords better somehow. Money to make a game has zero to do with how good something is. It only makes things more or less impressive that a small team made something w less money.
The game is better than people say...but the forced abysmal boring umbral mechanic...the game wouldve surely been better without it... i guess they needed their own twist...
i personally don't mind the Umbral mechanic that much, it reminds me alot of Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver also the madness that ensues because so much shit is spawning in Umbral can be fun imo
Yeah umbral just starts to feel like a drag the more you play , u fight the same enemies , the timer always make you rush to the end , it's just not fun to go through after playing for more than 3 hours
Lords of the fallen is awesome. Most like a dark souls game I've played with a two world mechanic. Then the shadow drops of NPC and world events made it engaging.
Just like you, I started and quit the original game multiple times. Slow and sluggish. Perfectly said. I waited for the deluxe version of the new one to go on sale and I picked it up for $30. I'm about 4 hours in and, although it is a massive improvement from the first one, it's still pretty sluggish, as if the character is under water. The equipment menu is very busy and it took me a minute to realize what was what. I plan on finishing it though.
This game for some reason got a lot of unnecessary harsh backlash from the players and it's so sad, especially for the devs. You can see they put a lot of love into the game and kept it updated with new features and events after launch. I played the game on release and finished it before watching any reviews on the game and was completely shocked about the bad reception because I personally had way more fun with LotF than Elden Ring. For me LotF feels more like it's back to the roots souls as I really didn't enjoy the Open World approach from Elden Ring.
I am NOT a Dark Souls player. I picked up the first Lords of the Fallen in 2023 really cheap on Steam. Graphics were superb but I had a hard time with controller play so I used Mse & Kbd. So much better for me. I had to get used to the fighting/weapon mechanics. I am a fan of this game. Im about to pick up the 2023 LotF for $29.99 on Steam. Today is Nov.6, 2024.
My biggest issue with this game is it never let me feel powerful. No matter how much i upgraded how big my weapon was what slots i filled armor and charms i got the enemy scaling was always higher than my character. Maybe that changes if i beat it and min max but on first playthrough moment to moment i felt weak as hell the entire time. Meanwhile in elden ring there were many areas either i was overleveled for or due to how i built ny character there are many moments i felt like a beast even in the surge and other similar games. This may be a genre meant to be hard but its also supposed to fulfil a power fantasy to some extent
I get what you're saying and i agree with the sentiment, but i disagree that the issue is the lack of power fantasy , i think the real issue is the lack of progression you feel while playing . Since basically you fight the same enemies but just scaled up , leveling up is very incremental and it feels like you've hit a hard cap from level 1 ( for example levelling up health doesn't feel impactful or like it's making you survive better ) , so you never feel that satisfaction of progressing and getting better , the only progress you get is the knowledge on how to best deal with enemy spam . So yeah feeling powerful is related to this sense of progress , but the game neither makes you powerful nor acknowledges your journey
@@lynackhilou4865 would make sense if in the beginning you fight basic humans and zombies and small beasts, and in the end you fight great knights, demons and huge beasts. You feel like you grew stronger, you fight against enemies that look stronger. This game really lacks enemy variety. They really lacked resources here. I hope they make the 2nd one where they fix it. Souls games were strong, because they had new enemies in new areas, often unique, requiring unique approach. This game has DS2 vibes, repetitive. Which doesn't make it 100% bad though.
It was bad at launch. Barely in a playable state, but they patched it a lot. Still no excuse for developers releasing broken and unfinished games at launch
28:49 Absolutely.. I would just be happy with an interactive map! I actually love this game.. But it’s super confusing and a map and a quest log would help a lot!
Game should have launched in the 1.5 state but unfortunately the trend of AAAesque games launching buggy and unpolished will continue. I did a 1.5 ver playthrough and absolutely had a blast and am thankful CI games will get a second shot with a sequel in the works
Игра великолепная! Полноценная боевая система, где ты пользуешься и блокированием, и уворотами, и парированием. Адекватный темп игры и чёткие анимации (привет Lies of P) позволяют играть на парировании без глупого спама (привет Sekiro). Безусловно LotF лидер по дизайну локаций: они очень красивые, есть масса шорт-катов и панорамные виды на соседние локации. Системные требования высоковаты, но и графика явно выдающаяся. Я играю в версию 1.5.115 с видеокартой RX7800 XT в разрешении 1080p при качестве "cinematic". Проблем со статерами или отвалах контроллера никогда не испытывал.
i put like 200hours as soon this game comes out and game had issues at release but still enjoy it , because of you bud i will revisit this game again , Nice video , great work
Seems like they could've released this for the PS4 PRO. I refuse to buy a PS5 after them not being available for like 4 years. Lies Of P is phenomenal and had no problem releasing on both platforms
I only did 1 full playthrough and ended up unlocking the holy class that looks like a cowboy,I forget the name of the class since it's been a long time since I've played this game. I'm thinking of reinstalling the game again to do another playthrough.
The Umbra feature reminds me of the Spirit Realm from Soul Reaver, and I'm almost getting the game because of that, but I'm also so fatigued of the soulslike genre that I think I'll skip it, lol!
Never played souls like games. Which game should a newbie start from? And any tips? Is this game a good starter? I have always played dark fantasy or action RPGs.
Darl Souls has a nice lonely atmosphere. But small joys to hold onto. If I was going for fighting mechanic, I would play Nioh 2. I had a great time with the axe and odachi gameplay. I didn't beat Nioh 1. I got too distracted on transferring randomised weapon characteristics. Most weapons and armour have a Diablo-like random set of features.
@@daniellap.stewart6839elden ring really isn't dark souls. It doesn't even have The Dark Soul. You can still like it but they're different games. Elden Ring is also 120+ hours long while all the other dark souls games are shorter, sweeter experiences.
I feel in love with this game I have gotten all three endings and I’m going for a 5th run after I play remnant 2 for a bit that’s also an incredible game
Honestly the first lords of the fallen goes hard into power fantasy. At the beginning of the game you can choose priest,rouge and warrior. Each class has predefined abilities it can use and once you beat the game you can new game plus to pick another class to add onto your existing class... Making it possible to buff up DMG and then go invisible with a massive weapon and one shot most enemies...you new game plus 2 and now your a walking nuke that can't die....the issue is around 70% of the game you can get a two handed sword that dwarfs every other weapon in the game...think Sword of Aeons from fable base game and not DLC...it has double the DMG of anything and it scale with multiple stats.
I'm not a super fan of the combat animations, but the magic casting in this game is LEAGUES above the souls games, they really need to take a note from this game's book and actually start working on a quick casting system.
I liked it but I played the patched version not so long ago. I really liked the level design and artstyle, but there was not enough enemy variety and bosses were mid. Still, it's a solid 7/10 imho.
I'm doing a let's play series for this game right now and I'm having a absolute blast I haven't played it since it first came out and it's a lot of fun I don't know how this game could have mixed reviews it's amazing I tried doing it let's play series for black myth and have quit twice that should tell you everything you need to know I'm sure it's not that good to a lot of people but to a lot of us it is
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The "Lords of the Fallen" game not to be confused with "Lords of the Fallen".
It should be called lords of the fallen 2.
In case you forgot, this game USED to be called "Lords of the Fallen 2". Then it was later re-revealed as "THE Lords of the Fallen" only to finally be rebranded back to "Lords of the Fallen". It as a little weird.
@@robinmattheussen2395yeah we're beyond we are at this point you can't call it a sequel when it's not actually a sequel that doesn't even make sense I don't even know why they would do that they should just call it a remaster it's ridiculous.
lul
Well I always said the one without any inked face
As a huge fan of the souls games, i actually really enjoyed this game a lot.
It has a lot of depth to the combat, the special moves with weapons and unique abilities were awesome, and the magic is dope.
Multiplayer is also done super well.
I wish more people just played it and saw it for what it is and now compare every aspect of it to a souls game.
Most got shadowed by Lies of P and the launch issues. The qol changes and the modifiers introduced recently makes it so that it stands amongs the good soulslikes games.
The game is great, I love the souls game, and this game is a fantastic Souls like, the magic system is better in this IMO
The game is great, I love the souls game, and this game is a fantastic Souls like, the magic system is better in this IMO
Game is mid, I liked the first one a lot more. Probably because it was “fresh” at the time and there wasn’t a lot of soulslikes. Anyway yea this game disappointed me. I hate how your character feels like he’s on skates when you swing your weapon, I hate the mobs, the lack of variety and ending boss.
Iv been on a huge FromSoft and soulslike run over the last year and enjoyed this game a lot. I thought all 3 of lords, lies, and crabs treasure were all very well done.
I have played both Lords of the Fallen games and I absolutely loved and enjoyed playing both
I really enjoyed the first one. Just bought this one on sale, and as soon as I'm finished with mortal shell: enhanced, I'm in. Looking forward to the ride.
@@wayne_ghost it's worth it
For the vestige system. there's an explanation. the game was NOT supposed to have any single pre-made vestige like you see now. All vestiges were supposed to be player made, and temporary. that's why the superb inter connectivity between a lot of areas and how every area leads back to the hub, because the hub was the only place with a permanent pre-made vestige.
that's also why in NG cycles, the amount of vestiges reduce, leading to zero by i assume NG+3. which is exactly what the devs wanted to be the first NG to be.
I personally found the amount of vestiges so low on ng that I never bothered going ng+ and instead did 3 playthroughs of NG for the endings, especially since I remember the vestige item costing quite a bit and only being able to carry a few. And having to stop to farm to be able to make a new vestige at the next point just does not appeal to me.
Still overall quite a good game even on release (Only time I played it).
@@Syaniiti The vestige item is quite cheap and you can carry an unlimited amount. This may have changed since you played.
@@Lux_Ferox They were limited to 5 prior to 1.5 So you had to stop exploring and go buy more. They also aren't very cheap in the early game if I remember correctly and by midgame you no longer need them for anything anyway due to the game getting easier.
Checked the price, 1.2k per seed, that's 6k vigor to farm when you wanted to get the seeds, and early game that's not much fun. (again, late game you don't need them anyway). Sure you can kill tthe Red Reaper for the first time and get 5 and have enough left over for 2 more.
while the paths lead back to the hub, having to run through all the shit for half an hour just to get there is pretty shitty and I'm happy the devs didn't go that way for NG and also added a no-vestige-decay modifier
because let's be real, this doesn't make the game hard but actually insanely tedious since you have to run around so much without fast travel
Devs were based for trying to recreate the feeling of exploring the world in DeS and Ds1 instead of being just another combat focused soulslike with no soul. With how elden ring turned out even fromsoft seemed to have abandoned that approach. All in favour of accessibility and smoother gameplay while sacrificing immersion@@hundkebab2433
This was one of the best games of the year for me with over 200 hours played. I love the world and general atmosphere and aesthetic. Build variety is great, the combat feels impactful and replayability is up there. Its basically blasphemous in 3d.
I have 250h and all achivments and never regret a minute on this game
I used to talk shit about it when it launched but the game is awesome now. It's not perfect but still so much fun and interconnected world is incredible
I liked it a lot even at launch. It definitely wasn't a 'bad' game.
Same here. I was part of the "Don't tweak enemy density or Vestiges" gang lol The games polish now after the patches, fixes and updates just makes it better. Time for a replay; this time participating in Coop and PVP fully!
I really enjoyed Lords of Fallen (2023) when it came out. I'm really glad the devs stuck with it and worked on improving the game for the better. I beat this and Lies of P around the same time.. some of the best soulslike gaming ive had lol
Yesssss
Same here my brother🎉
Yeah haha I’m on chapter 9 of lies of p. And I just bought lords of the fallen on sale for 34.99. I think lies of p will be the first souls/souls like game that I’ve ever beat. For some reason it doesn’t aggravate me with cheap tricks like other games.
@@tylervincent2559 I'm glad to hear that! I hope you finish it and enjoy it all the way through! Same with Lords of the fallen, especially with all the updates.. should be a smooth ride 😃
Need to replay soon. Still one of my favorite Souls like
cringe
@@zentun544 ok
@@zentun544you don't like it is fine and is your opinion but stop criticizing people who liked it
@@zentun544 are you cringing at this game, or at the term 'souls like'?
Play the Niohs instead
LOTF is one of the best non From Soft souls-like to come out in recent years and I don't care what people say about it. This is also coming from a person who started back in the Demon Souls, Dark Souls days before the sub genre even was a thing. I never understood the hate for this game, and for me personally it brought me back to the days of DS1.
The lore/setting is great, the visuals are amazing, the art direction is amazing, the armor sets look better then many in souls games, gameplay is slightly more in-depth then the average Souls game, parrying feels better then a Souls game, the weight of attacks feel and look great, some of the main bosses are very cool, its has its very own built in randomizer with modifiers, built in boss rush ...etc, I could go on and on.
I understand on launch the game had some performance issues (trust me I was there), but they eventually were smoothed out (at least for me) and outside of performance there is very little I have to complain about this game and at this point I have done 2.5 full run-throughs of the game, as well as tried a rogue-like run in the randomizer, which was some of the most fun I've had this year.
To me this game was underrated and overhated, and I'm super glad we may be getting a sequel in the future due to its success.
Totally agree with your comment, this is just like Dark souls 1. I never played demon souls, but I did play dark souls 1 on 2012, and a bit of dark souls 2 on 2014, but I remember in dark souls 2 harvesting was limited, and the world wasn’t as interconnected, so I gave up and never played souls games again cause I knew they’ve already changed. This game is like playing DS1 just bigger, and 14 years later. I thought I was never going to experience that feeling again.
Even Fromsoft has not been able to replicate Dark Souls 1's interconnected world to date. Only Lords of the Fallen has, for better or worse. It stands for something. Its was better than people gave credit for and currently a darn good title after the updates!
The artstyle of this game reminds me of an edgier Blasphemous if it was done in 3D rather than pixels.
I loved this game! I am one of the freaks who enjoyed the first too, but this was a very underrated game in my opinion.
I loved the game right from the start. Sure, it didn't run super smooth, but it was okay, and I never understood all that hate that it got.
Same. I really liked it. I sometimes get the impression that a lot of people outsource their opinions.
Most people expected it be a comparable game to elden ring but there on two different levels where as elden ring is full open world and lotf is not, at the same time they said it would have a harder difficulty than elden ring they delivered it had lots of fun playing this game gave it a platinum too.
My theory is that Lies of P came out just before and it ran perfectly and Lords had some problems. Although I’m sure the online part of the game, the fact that you can coop/pvp across platforms etc had something to do with it especially since it was done by a new studio with ALL of them working from home. Plus I honestly think most of the P purists just want to do the femboy puppet.
Got it on sale. Having a blast. I liked Ds2 despite its flaws so this feels similar. I actually hope things like the streamlined ranged/magic system and more universal Rally and Parry mechanics make their way to soulsborne proper
I love the first Lords of the fallen tbh. I rly love the heavy slow combat style.
This game is a lot better than it was at launch. I think it had issues but I noticed a lot of them were what I would call "Review speedrun" issues, which is a big thing with all the YTers trying to get their review out first. When a game is new, there are no guides, so the combination of people trying to rush the game and difficulty often results in complaints. This is why many games are very hand-holdy. But a souls-like game that has more obscure mechanics always gets a lot of flak. Even Elden Ring got a fair share of complaints, such as the whole Margit slow attack / difficulty complaint, which was a result of people immediately running to Stormveil castle. The critics were drowned out by the positivity surrounding Elden Ring, and that in itself is a review feature. If a game is clearly very popular, reviewers are much more likely to give issues a pass. You could theoretically get identical games, one from a popular developer and one from an unknown developer, and despite critics identifying exactly the same issue, the one from the popular developer will still get 9/10 despite issues, and an identical game with the same issues from an unknown developer will get 6/10.
None of this is to say Lords of the Fallen didn't have issues, I just think many of the reviewer criticisms were the game wasn't identical to a From Soft game and reviewers couldn't rush to the end. Remember that Dark Souls got mixed reviews at first. It wasn't until popular opinion shifted after a year or two that it suddenly became the best thing ever, despite a lot of genuine flaws.
You wasted so much time when you could have just said lords of the fallen isn’t a good game. You tried comparing it to Elden ring? What? This game didn’t review as good because it isn’t as good, Elden ring someone complained about a boss being too hard which is a good thing, you kinda missed the point in that. Tbis game was complete trash, and scored to show it.
@@zeikersit’s anything but trash. I went to ng+1 on Elden Ring after the DLC and found it so boring I bought LOTF. I’ve completed the game twice and am on the third run now. Where LOTF really shines is the online play once you’ve finished your first run. Tonnes of ‘fun’ - something I most certainly wasn’t having during the ER replay. If ER had an echos of battle mode I don’t think ng+ would be worth playing at all.
@@79bull As the guy in the original comment said, it is the same game as dark souls 1, the dark souls that became a cult game, which is the first souls I ever played and got me hooked as no other soulslike could. I stopped playing soulslikes since dark souls 2 (a bit of Sekiro but I never felt like when I played DS1. This one is the real continuation of dark souls 1, this game gives that true DS1 feeling.
@@zeikers bros, just admit you are a hater that couldnt even get to the hushed saint, we can all tell from your coment.
Game was dope. Half the people didn’t even do the quest lines right and didn’t get to experience two extra bosses
The final boss for the umbral ending was possibly the best in the game imo.
@@Lux_FeroxElianne was a fun experience. I wish I didn’t have to experience her in ng++ everytime 😅😅😅
I did all the endings and man I loved this game
Half!? Xbox achievements say I was one of 0.8% to get Umbral ending. I think achievements for early bosses were below 20 even 10% of players. It’s obvious ppl who hated on it didn’t give it a fair shake
@@Rex0rSRK Agreed, I think some even dipped as low as FIVE PERCENT I played it on a Series X with Crossplay active and I was getting quite a few Playstation players, when I'd summon Lampbears it would take like 5-10 minutes, I only had a handful of fights where I needed help BUT it was funny when one person who got summoned was lower than me cause he was just like "NOPE" and left the game after our first ASS KICKING Vs. a boss🤣
To unlock the pathway which leads to The Castle interior you need to cleanse the five beacons BUT once you do that the door in front of the gated elevator (the one you took after beating The Skinstealer) becomes sealed with an Umbrell Guardian so you've got to all the way back to where you fought the baby and kill your way to the arena where The Lightreaper will be waiting for your third & final encounter with him unless you killed him already
I really loved this game. The original "Lords of the Fallen" will always hold a special place in my heart, because it's the first "soulslike" I ever played back in 2015, and it's what led me to Dark Souls II & the Souls genre in general!
Hah! Exact same situation with me, around the same time too! The original Lords of the fallen was my first souls-like and was close to my heart, and led me to start with dark souls 2, then 3, and then to 1 😂.
This game is awesome if you havent played it yet its deffinatly worth. I have done three full playthroughs and about 200 hours in and would play it again too. Not really buggy any more like it was at launch. Very cool game.
I got it on some small sale and after 1.5 patch, and never looked back. yes, combat needs some getting used to, but once you got it, it is really satisfying.
I actually love LoF. I finished it twice about 5 months ago. Some aspects of the game I like even better than similar ones in DS series for example.
I love lords of the fallen 2023. The fact that it has so much replay value, great combat & level design
Not to mention free events that are permanent rather than timed
Unique final bosses & new starting classes based on ur ending completition
The mod and randomizer support aswell
You can tell this was a labor of love by a passionate studio and I can’t wait for the sequel
Bro, what fucking replay value? There is a token three-way ending cinematic you could just save yourself a lot of time and watch online. All of the gods and all of their followers suck ass, because of course they do, because it's the generic FROM edgelord nonsense. The game's story is so fucking bad going through it once is painful enough, ditto with the non-boss combat (bosses are actually mostly cool - I'll give the game that!) and the five or so enemy types get stale even before you're half way through the game, much less replaying it lol. I seriously would love to be on the same hype train half the Souls community is on, I really would, but this game is absolute dogshit compared to even Mortal Shell, much less actually truly competent soulslikes (that still have flaws, mind) like Lies of P.
The congregation of flesh can't be that bad, just beat him today first try, easily one of my favorite bosses
I bought it a few months after release. I think it's a great first effort by Hexworks and they did a lot right despite not getting much credit for it. They have lots of room to improve with enemy placement, enemy design, boss fights, ect... but did some really good stuff with the aesthetics, lore, and level design. My favorite thing they did was the spell/ranged system they added that allows you to combo your spells without having to cycle through them with the D-pad.
@@YeOldeMachina CI Games created their own developer Hexworks for this game, allowing customers to believe none of the stupidity from the first game would be carried over, because everyone would think this was separate. Then they very oddly gave the 2nd game the same name, proving that they are weird.
This game is in my A+ tier after all the free great updates and DLC the developer has been constantly releasing since launch. I've invested in it 400h so far and don't regret it at all.
I held off on buying the game at launch because people said it was bad but I got it like 4 days ago and it quickly and easily became my new favorite Soulslike.
Just recently started to play it and everything that threw me off of the game on launch has been addressed and fixed. I am absolutely in love with this game now and recommend others to at the very least give it a try.
This game is amazing. I enjoyed it 100 times more than Lies. Both great but the exploration was miles ahead in LotF.
I agree player both back to back and enjoyed Lords even more then lies
Lotf is definitely a better souls like game. Lop felt like it was linear. And the enemy and world design is kinda lame in lop
It’s unfair to compare exploration between them imo as that was never meant to be a focus of Lies. It’s a linear game, LOTF isn’t.
@@jakealexander3416 Well thats an opinion..
Dont talk like its facts tho.
@@CrystronHalqYeah that's the net tho. Everyone has an opinion. And and as far as they're concerned it's fact.
In real life? Wouldn't say boo to a goose :)
The game at launch was mired by so many issues (for me) outside of the performance issues which built up to spoil the experience from archers that could snipe you from off-screen and see right across the map to the 'estus chug' being quite a long animation and the yeeting yourself off the precarious platforms in the first area.
However, I returned to the game with the 1.5 release and the updates they made and QOL changes were great - I've played it with some of the modifiers and also played it a lot in co-op which was a lot of fun. I would agree that most of your criticisms are valid but, like you, I still find the game a lot of fun.
This is what a lot of people don't understand. Bro, a game should be at peak condition on release. Tired of half ass releases.
@@bp4861 You’re not wrong but credit where credit is due for this title. They listened and made headway into making it a decent game. No Mans Sky is the pinnacle of this type of developer approach but too many games release in a mess and stay a mess.
@@bp4861but it's more rare that the devs actually take notes of the critisisms and keep fixing the issues till the end.
@@aryabratsahoo7474 see no offense but you're the problem. It's NOT rare that they stick with a game and it gets better in time. That's literally what happens every time. If you buy a game one year after it came out you are objectively getting a better more fleshed out cohesive product. If you buy a game day one chances are you can't even play it. You sir, are the problem. Instead of "giving credit where it's due" you need to grow up and realize if this was in any other industry there would be lawsuits left and right.
@@bp4861 well jokes on you, I didn't bought it day one. I saw the reviews and decided to not play it. The game just occasionally pops up on my steam feed and I just keep myself up to date with the updates and got it during sale after few patches. Did I contribute to the issue? I did my job as a consumer and made the right decision to wait and see. If you're having an issue with this industry malpractice then "Vote with your wallet" and stop just blaming others or try to make a difference by any other means other than just complaining.
Also regarding lawsuits, what about the entertainment(episodic shows and movie) industry? Are there any lawsuits that happened because the movie/series sucked? Just be aware of what you're buying and not pre-order.
I think one of the biggest issues LotF had at launch was everyone wanted another Elden Ring. Its part of the genre, any game that calls itself "Soul's Like" is of course going to be compared to DS and ER. But LotF on its own I always felt held up.
Most bosses were really fun and had interesting mechanics, and I also liked how youd run into boss characters that were just suped up versions of an upcoming areas enemies.
Weapons felt fun and while not inspired, they still got the job done.
Thanks for the review man. Saw that the game was on sale on Steam and was wondering if it was worth getting now. I've only played for about 4 hours so far but im loving it. Has a really DS3 feel to it combat and world wise and that was my favorite out of the trilogy.
Biggest shame for me here is that while the game looks absolutely incredible, the HUD and some of those text bubble elements that pop up are some of the ugliest I've ever seen. You don't HAVE to copy FromSoft at literally every step, you can make a clean HUD that looks like something from this century, and not just follow something FS have decided to stick with for most of their games. And at least their art style suits that retro HUD thing - when you put it on top of hyper realistic graphics like in this game it's pretty much disgusting.
My main problem is I can rarely ever tell where I’m supposed to go, the wall is a weird mess
Yeah its literally immersion breaking. Way too many places leading to dead ends or areas that don't make sense. Was sick at looking for guides on where to go next. I hate looking at guides in general first run but HAD to with LOTF.
Such a good game man! After all the updates it has become really solid, imo.
Think the issue was it came out around the same time as Lies of P, which overshadowed it since LoP was probably the first souslike that felt fromsoft quality.
Since then I know Lords of the Fallen has had a lot of updates, but I don't know how many fixed the core issues of the game which were the floaty combat, enemy placement, and the dual worlds mechanic was was really cool on paper but implemented poorly. I didn't finish Lords of the Fallen but back then I considered it to be about a 5-6/10, not bad just mediocre. I might go back to it once i finish wukong, space marines and astro bot, there's no harm in giving it another chance.
They did fix the critical issues that made the game nuisance to play. Now it's in decent shape, as long as you don't mind some convoluted levels to navigate through.
Improved performance and cut down on stuttering, especially on consoles.
Lowered enemy density, when it launched it had enemy density fit for a game that is just full co-op and it was a mess. You can still bring it back with game start option, if you want.
Since most weapons have forward momentum in their movesets, they made it so that you cannot fall into ravines during a weapon attack. Which was a heaven-sent change.
Co-op is now more reliable, it was utter trash before.
Bad things: I don't think PVP is fun, with lots of powerful and fast spells. Bosses are still kind of soft-skinned in latter half of the game and some of them just aren't fun/good overall (except the new secret boss they added). Also not a fan of that one quest where you have to summon one NPC to seven different boss fights, and some bosses start spazzing out and are just a nuisance to fight with a summon. Umbral mechanic is used a lot, yet there are very few proper puzzles or interactions there. It's mostly just go in, go back out. Lock-on system can still go haywire, even though it is less sensitive now, at the worst possible time. Certain spells, like Orius' Judgement (homing, overhead, multihitting lightning strikes) and Lucent Beam (instantly activating high damage beam), can still trivialize lot of the content.
I have been thinking a lot about this game lately and I believe the two main reason why many people hated on it were due to the timeline of its release:
1. After Elden Ring got released, many new players joined the ranks of Souls Enjoyers, so they expected Lords of the Fallen to be just like Elden Ring. When they encountered ambushes with many enemies, they weren't ready to accept the challenge because it felt too different from the Elden Ring formula. Yes Elden Ring had ambushes too, but they were often easier
2. Optimisation for the PS5-level hardware was received poorly in 2023, because back then many people still had PS4 consoles or PS4-level PC hardware; So many GTX 1660 past-gen enjoyers complained about the performance
I have a third bro, you ready? 3. It's a boring, shitty game, with far too few enemy types, fairly unbalanced combat, terrible and boring areas, a frustrating "otherworld" system that should have been cool but isn't, every weapon in the class having the EXACT SAME MOVESET, and the story and setting being so generic edgelord grim fantasy that it would be a groan even prior to the FLOOD of similar soulslikes we got in the meantime. There, that okay?
Majority of the big issues I personally had have been resolved as I picked it up again a few weeks ago after finishing it once on release.
I've been playing and I'm on the 3 area and so far I'm loving it
I didn't play at launch but only a month or so ago. The ranged & magic combat systems are the best in any souls-like gane I've played. Also, the setting is really interesting. It goes so much deeper than "demons are here now go kill them".
I pre-ordered this game and waited for months to play it. I, along with countless others were so disappointed it was heartbreaking. I understand it was their first go at souls like gaming, but come on! They lost so many players due to their refusal to bring in people who knew how to fix the countless issues they were having. This game should have been a massive hit but unfortunately the devs allowed this masterpiece to fall by the wayside. Hopefully they release lords of the fallen 2 with the knowledge they gained in the utter disaster the release of this game was. I continued to play and was happy they kept trying to make the game playable. Unfortunately, it came too late as 75-80% of players had already left at that point and I myself left around 2 months after release. This could have been amazing, their next attempt providing they've ironed out the major issues they had will get the respect and acclaim lords 2023 should have received.
Just go back and play it now? It’s basically a finished product. Who cares? I still went back and played Cyberpunk 2077 after they fixed it on consoles…and enjoyed it. I’m doing the same with this game.
Stop being a baby.
I did a pre-order too, and my dissapoint was huge at the release and I wasn't play it even 1 hour. A year have passed and I returned to the game and it was very pleasent and exciting journey, the game is rly good.
Kids these days don't know how good they have it bunch of cry babies man@@TheModerateExtremist448
My biggest issues were the overall movement, floatiness on weapon impacts, and enemy variety. When it comes to souls likes it has to feel very good, and with LOTF it just always felt off.
I felt that way too for awhile, and maybe it's been changed since 1.5 as I only got the game a couple weeks ago. I was even frustrated with the feel of the gameplay at first, it didn't feel like a From game, despite looking so much like a Dark Souls game. But then, something clicked, and the gameplay felt much better. Rather than comparing I began to appreciate it for what it does, ESPECIALLY the parry system, which feels so good.
I think the speed of the movement was what threw me off most to start, but now after having gotten used to the mechanics I think they're well done and I am glad it feels so different from From's games.
It honestly reminds me a lot of Dark Souls II in a fair amount of ways, but I like it more than Dark Souls II.
Lords of the fallen 2 has no floaty combat though. It's extremely impactful and quick
@@TijnvanGimstit's not the combat that is floaty , the combat is mostly well done, it's the mouvement that feels floaty , it's similar to dark souls 2 in that sense and both have a similar feel
@TijnvanGimst if you think lotf has no floatiness in its combat just grab a random weapon type (especially short sword and daggers) and swing away and watch your forward momentum slide you across the ground.
Yeah I beat this game like 4 times, I can't say experienced "floaty" movement what so ever.
Honestly I love lords of the fallen I don’t ever wanna be finished with the game, and this was my first souls game I ever played
I quit this game like at 60 or 70 percent of it.... it is so annoying the fact that you're always fighting the same 2-3 enemies with just upscaled damage and armor
If U enjoyed LOTF . You MUST play the NG+
All bosses will kick your ass it's f awsome .
Specially with the new mode like enemy randomized and early game crowd
LOTF is on of top 5 best soulslike games ever IMO
This is my favorite soulslike and one of the best "souls" games Ive played, Love the aestethics, the world and the style so much, Umbral was also a refreshing take on the genre, I know the game was bad at launch but most games are nowadays, after extensive patching this game is a must for all darksouls fans! I loved this a lot more than elden ring
This game is really great people are so quick to give up and quit just because it had a few bugs but at its current state its pretty solid now
My biggest problem was the fact that there were like 10 enemies, it really started to become super annoying in like hour 15+ when you get to a new amazing place and its like the saaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaame goddamn enemies...
Is this still the case or did they actually do something about that too?
No it's still the same
legit one of my favorite soulslike game.
I'm going to have to give this another go. I played it upon release, and it was a buggy, but beautiful mess. If they have really improved it, then it deserves another try, just because it seems like a labor of love.
I got this game for $15 at GameStop cause I had some rewards points, and I’m loving it so far
I gave the game a shot for about 10 hours but couldnt do any more. I liked the aesthetics of the game, the grey health mechanic and the separate buttons for spells but that's about it. The combat felt too floaty and while the part of the game i did play was overall easy the difficulty i did feel seemed to come from the sheer number of enemies you would fight at the same time. Probably didn't help that i played this right after lies of p which i clicked with instantly.
I couldnt get into this game but im glad you enjoyed your time with it.
That Two Worlds reference.... wow... I pushed through the jank to beat the first one, but couldn't beat the second one haha.
Going to start back playing. I’m hoping it plays better than release version. I really wanted to love this game. Those trash mobs always frustrated me. I don’t mind grinding and dying but the distance between rest spots seemed to far. I would find myself running past as many enemies just to find next rest spot!
I'm a nearly 60 grandmother and love this game, however I hate that in order to get platinum, like I did on ER, Lies of P and Wukong, I'd have to play online, which I'm not willing to do. I'm so disappointed in the creators for this 😢.
Lazy ass game designers didn’t even add diff animations when you dual wield. Insane
This really turned me off from playing the game, like it had cool ideas but every combination of weapons felt the same
Very lackluster
@@spacecowboy5486 yea it felt so cheap lol like Elden ring takes a massive dump on it
@@Buddyguy1988 elden ring had triple the budget.
@ and? That is supposed to make lords better somehow. Money to make a game has zero to do with how good something is. It only makes things more or less impressive that a small team made something w less money.
The game is better than people say...but the forced abysmal boring umbral mechanic...the game wouldve surely been better without it... i guess they needed their own twist...
I agree, it gets annoying and troublesome after a while, felt like they should make a whole separate umbral zone map or something, game wasn’t bad tho
i personally don't mind the Umbral mechanic that much, it reminds me alot of Legacy of Kain Soul Reaver
also the madness that ensues because so much shit is spawning in Umbral can be fun imo
Yeah umbral just starts to feel like a drag the more you play , u fight the same enemies , the timer always make you rush to the end , it's just not fun to go through after playing for more than 3 hours
Lords of the fallen is awesome. Most like a dark souls game I've played with a two world mechanic. Then the shadow drops of NPC and world events made it engaging.
I just started playing and I love it! Although I think it’s a bit easy compared to other souls like game .
Lotf 1 and Loft 2 are day and night. The new game is incredible
Just like you, I started and quit the original game multiple times. Slow and sluggish. Perfectly said. I waited for the deluxe version of the new one to go on sale and I picked it up for $30. I'm about 4 hours in and, although it is a massive improvement from the first one, it's still pretty sluggish, as if the character is under water. The equipment menu is very busy and it took me a minute to realize what was what. I plan on finishing it though.
This game for some reason got a lot of unnecessary harsh backlash from the players and it's so sad, especially for the devs. You can see they put a lot of love into the game and kept it updated with new features and events after launch.
I played the game on release and finished it before watching any reviews on the game and was completely shocked about the bad reception because I personally had way more fun with LotF than Elden Ring. For me LotF feels more like it's back to the roots souls as I really didn't enjoy the Open World approach from Elden Ring.
To me elden ring seemed way easier just like wukong I got bored with both of them, as for Lords of the Fallen I haven't been bored yet
I am NOT a Dark Souls player. I picked up the first Lords of the Fallen in 2023 really cheap on Steam. Graphics were superb but I had a hard time with controller play so I used Mse & Kbd. So much better for me. I had to get used to the fighting/weapon mechanics. I am a fan of this game. Im about to pick up the 2023 LotF for $29.99 on Steam. Today is Nov.6, 2024.
My biggest issue with this game is it never let me feel powerful. No matter how much i upgraded how big my weapon was what slots i filled armor and charms i got the enemy scaling was always higher than my character.
Maybe that changes if i beat it and min max but on first playthrough moment to moment i felt weak as hell the entire time.
Meanwhile in elden ring there were many areas either i was overleveled for or due to how i built ny character there are many moments i felt like a beast even in the surge and other similar games.
This may be a genre meant to be hard but its also supposed to fulfil a power fantasy to some extent
I get what you're saying and i agree with the sentiment, but i disagree that the issue is the lack of power fantasy , i think the real issue is the lack of progression you feel while playing . Since basically you fight the same enemies but just scaled up , leveling up is very incremental and it feels like you've hit a hard cap from level 1 ( for example levelling up health doesn't feel impactful or like it's making you survive better ) , so you never feel that satisfaction of progressing and getting better , the only progress you get is the knowledge on how to best deal with enemy spam .
So yeah feeling powerful is related to this sense of progress , but the game neither makes you powerful nor acknowledges your journey
@@lynackhilou4865 would make sense if in the beginning you fight basic humans and zombies and small beasts, and in the end you fight great knights, demons and huge beasts. You feel like you grew stronger, you fight against enemies that look stronger. This game really lacks enemy variety. They really lacked resources here. I hope they make the 2nd one where they fix it.
Souls games were strong, because they had new enemies in new areas, often unique, requiring unique approach. This game has DS2 vibes, repetitive. Which doesn't make it 100% bad though.
It was bad at launch. Barely in a playable state, but they patched it a lot. Still no excuse for developers releasing broken and unfinished games at launch
It was very much playable at launch. Especially on PC. I know Xbox was a mess. But PC had no issues outside some frame drops here and there.
Ps5 was fine at launch
Love it, runs well on steamdeck
Story of this game is great
28:49 Absolutely.. I would just be happy with an interactive map! I actually love this game.. But it’s super confusing and a map and a quest log would help a lot!
The biggest mistake was releasing the game right after lies of P, the greatest soulslike of all time
Game should have launched in the 1.5 state but unfortunately the trend of AAAesque games launching buggy and unpolished will continue. I did a 1.5 ver playthrough and absolutely had a blast and am thankful CI games will get a second shot with a sequel in the works
Игра великолепная! Полноценная боевая система, где ты пользуешься и блокированием, и уворотами, и парированием. Адекватный темп игры и чёткие анимации (привет Lies of P) позволяют играть на парировании без глупого спама (привет Sekiro). Безусловно LotF лидер по дизайну локаций: они очень красивые, есть масса шорт-катов и панорамные виды на соседние локации.
Системные требования высоковаты, но и графика явно выдающаяся. Я играю в версию 1.5.115 с видеокартой RX7800 XT в разрешении 1080p при качестве "cinematic". Проблем со статерами или отвалах контроллера никогда не испытывал.
i put like 200hours as soon this game comes out and game had issues at release but still enjoy it , because of you bud i will revisit this game again , Nice video , great work
you ever played asterigos? its another souls like with a unique systems and fun gameplay and cool story and sidequests
That game is a masterpiece and it’s worth any second
Seems like they could've released this for the PS4 PRO. I refuse to buy a PS5 after them not being available for like 4 years. Lies Of P is phenomenal and had no problem releasing on both platforms
I only did 1 full playthrough and ended up unlocking the holy class that looks like a cowboy,I forget the name of the class since it's been a long time since I've played this game. I'm thinking of reinstalling the game again to do another playthrough.
The Umbra feature reminds me of the Spirit Realm from Soul Reaver, and I'm almost getting the game because of that, but I'm also so fatigued of the soulslike genre that I think I'll skip it, lol!
Never played souls like games. Which game should a newbie start from? And any tips? Is this game a good starter? I have always played dark fantasy or action RPGs.
just start with dark souls 1
Darl Souls has a nice lonely atmosphere. But small joys to hold onto.
If I was going for fighting mechanic, I would play Nioh 2.
I had a great time with the axe and odachi gameplay.
I didn't beat Nioh 1. I got too distracted on transferring randomised weapon characteristics. Most weapons and armour have a Diablo-like random set of features.
@@daniellap.stewart6839elden ring really isn't dark souls. It doesn't even have The Dark Soul. You can still like it but they're different games.
Elden Ring is also 120+ hours long while all the other dark souls games are shorter, sweeter experiences.
Mortal shell.....
I love Elden Ring, I really wanted to love the new Lords of the Fallen but I stink at it. I thought the lantern mechanic was awesome.
I feel in love with this game I have gotten all three endings and I’m going for a 5th run after I play remnant 2 for a bit that’s also an incredible game
playing any rpg after chronicles of myrtana is gonna be hard for a while
Got it for 20$ yes it's worth it.
Love this game
Honestly the first lords of the fallen goes hard into power fantasy. At the beginning of the game you can choose priest,rouge and warrior. Each class has predefined abilities it can use and once you beat the game you can new game plus to pick another class to add onto your existing class... Making it possible to buff up DMG and then go invisible with a massive weapon and one shot most enemies...you new game plus 2 and now your a walking nuke that can't die....the issue is around 70% of the game you can get a two handed sword that dwarfs every other weapon in the game...think Sword of Aeons from fable base game and not DLC...it has double the DMG of anything and it scale with multiple stats.
Click4Gameplay, cool content keep it up dude
Prob gonna give this another shake soon. Got turned off hard after three hard locks. The patches also made some bosses I hated even worse.
I love the game myself and was hoping for a dlc
Picked it up this past month and been hooked. Restarted 4 or 5 times. Now on my 4th NG+ run
I'm not a super fan of the combat animations, but the magic casting in this game is LEAGUES above the souls games, they really need to take a note from this game's book and actually start working on a quick casting system.
I just started, but bought gsme at launch, due to bad critics i waited with playing. I enjoy the atmosphere, its pleasantly dark in nature.
The boss attack animations are floaty and horrendous, completely killed the game for me
Is the game perfect? No. Are any of the souls or souls likes I've played perfect? Hell no. Game is so underrated. Lot of fun.
short answer, yes. Long answer, yes
the umbral realm is what i hated about this game
I liked it but I played the patched version not so long ago. I really liked the level design and artstyle, but there was not enough enemy variety and bosses were mid. Still, it's a solid 7/10 imho.
I'm doing a let's play series for this game right now and I'm having a absolute blast I haven't played it since it first came out and it's a lot of fun I don't know how this game could have mixed reviews it's amazing I tried doing it let's play series for black myth and have quit twice that should tell you everything you need to know I'm sure it's not that good to a lot of people but to a lot of us it is
This game tricked me I played till the end... but it's just awful when you look back you can barley remember anything about the journey
Gotta love the radiant build ..that lighting spell ..awesome game ..I like more then Eldon ring in ways …both great games though
I like it🤷