Reality vs Propaganda: Understanding Iran’s Protests, w/ Navid Zarrinnal
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- Опубликовано: 13 окт 2022
- Navid Zarrinnal, a Columbia Univ. PhD and Iranian scholar at Stanford University, joined Rania Khalek to help make sense of the unrest in Iran over the morality police or guidance patrol amid the death of Mahsa Amini and the way Western governments are using a legitimate grievance to promote instability in Iran. They also discuss the way the protests have been exaggerated by Western anti-Iran media, the role of hawkish exiles in promoting false narratives about a “revolution” and the actual conversation about the hijab mandate taking place inside Iran.
Navid welcomes feedback, you can get in touch with him at nz67@stanford.edu
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I have not seen mainstream journalists protest the political prision of Julian Assange.
So true!
@@THOREAU79 Mainstream media let us see what Washington bandits want the world to see.
How can they? They’ve not been told to do so by their handlers in the intelligence services.
Zero Western mainstream media sources say anything to defend Assange & call for his release.
It's not just prison... my dude Assange is being tortured in solitary confinement fir like years now. Do you have the slightest idea what that does to you ?
My deepest gratitude for break through news from inside of iran
US bloody hands is everywhere 👻👿💀
U support this disgusting regime?
oh man. Very informative. Changed some of my pre-conceptions about Iran.
This speaker is worth listening to. I will search for more interviews. Thank you for having him on.
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As somone from Hong Kong, I can speak from my horrific experience of foreign influence via mainstream medias & massive fundings going to Government opposition
Unfortunately, many Hong Kongers discovered the hand of the US in the violent riots rather late.
@@gabriellee6898 I mean, is it tho? Covid and HK were the two events that totally changed my blind worship of western countries, and HK is actually getting rid of foreign political influences and dark fundings through the new security act, all that happened without actual major tragedies or any western opposition, some whining and demonization sure, but no governmental actions whatsoever.
... when demonstrations get out of hand so easily, resulting in violent clashes and the western media is all up in arms in support and call it: "... for freedome and democracy"; and the nation is also a known Regime change target of the US, we don't have to search very hard for the real culprit of such escalation: it's the US and its regime change apparatus: CIA, NED and its "alphabet soup" of NGO's ... Hong Kong's democracy and freedom protesters running around with American flags and banners in english (while Hong Kong scored consistently and for years the top ranks in the Cato institute's freedom index) should have been a hint for everyone that something "stinks" or "stank"there ... 😉 ...
@@gabriellee6898 ... when demonstrations get out of hand so easily, resulting in violent clashes and the western media is all up in arms in support and call it: "... for freedome and democracy"; and the nation is also a known Regime change target of the US, we don't have to search very hard for the real culprit of such escalation: it's the US and its regime change apparatus: CIA, NED and its "alphabet soup" of NGO's ... Hong Kong's democracy and freedom protesters running around with American flags and banners in english (while Hong Kong scored consistently and for years the top ranks in the Cato institute's freedom index) should have been a hint for everyone that something "stinks" or "stank"there ... 😉 ...
@@TheRealIronMan ... when demonstrations get out of hand so easily, resulting in violent clashes and the western media is all up in arms in support and call it: "... for freedome and democracy"; and the nation is also a known Regime change target of the US, we don't have to search very hard for the real culprit of such escalation: it's the US and its regime change apparatus: CIA, NED and its "alphabet soup" of NGO's ... Hong Kong's democracy and freedom protesters running around with American flags and banners in english (while Hong Kong scored consistently and for years the top ranks in the Cato institute's freedom index) should have been a hint for everyone that something "stinks" or "stank"there ... 😉 ...
Thanks for covering this.
Excellent, informative discussion.
Yeah, American are expert in Ukraine, Hong Kong,Tsaiwan, now Iran cultures. Only thing American are not expert is homeless!
I think you might add propaganda
Absolutely fascinating and enlightening. Thank you Rania
as Iranians, I believe we need clarity without bias and I saw signs of it in this interview if that is really the case then I thank you
The impression I have of the Iranians..especially the Persians..especially the Persian women, is that they all hate Islam from the bottom of their hearts and that most people have left Islam and opted for either agnosticism/athiesm/Neo Zoroastrianis and even Christianity. I also get the impression that most Iranians, especially the youth and especially the women feel that they are more compatible with the Western liberal secular values than Islamic values of the region.
@@EV-EV-EVimpression based on what?
I really appreciate the way Breakthrough News platforms experts and scholars from all over the world, not just self-described (Insert country here) "experts". I also respect the academic pedigree of the guests. the mainstream media often sources their guest "experts" from gross think tanks, and I'm glad you guys don't do that.
I was waiting for this episode. Thanks Rania.
Thanks for the critical view of the news. Here in Brazil our mainstream press simply repeats the standard narrative from international media.
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I’m glad you reported on the Iranian expat woman who is pushing for regime change in Iran. Danny Haiphong also reported on her and quoted from an article that reported she has received some $680,000 from the CIA and various US government agencies. That is a lot of money for one person and a huge incentive for someone who is safely in the US to call for a regime change that would likely result in many deaths.
So you really support iranian regime that smashed Mahsa Amini to death for wearing Hijab properly? Stop falling for conspiracy theories. The protests are legitimate , at least don't disrespect the victims.
so you want the theocracy to continue their bloody rule? you want morality police and revolutionary guard to continue their abuses of power and documented torture and beatings ESPECIALLY of minorities like the kurds because what? it aligns too much with the west?
do you people actually believe in ANYTHING besides American diabolism? are there like any actual etical positions or is it just whoever is against the US is automatically in the right???
It's what the U.S. does.
Have you seen her bank account? Based on what evidence? the US has zero interest in an ordinary journalist who has less than one percent chance to overthrow or change a regime that is in charge of oil refineries and the army. What kind of logic is that? Seriously, what do you smoke and all those idiots who like such a baseless claim, or hearsay statement.
Thanks to the NED to make the hijab issue comes to fruition.
Before we even had access to this alternative story on the protests, I was already thinking to myself, “This protest wreaks of CIA psyops”
Yep. The fact that it was instantly a top story everywhere news is purveyed was very suspicious.
@@Dorian_sapiens also when you consider how hard the people there has struggled to overthrow the shah in order to have the government they have now, as well as the fact that modesty laws are way more popular than Americans are able to believe
Also Israel ambassador in USA said we should take advantage of the people in iran who hate this regime then weeks later this protest happens. Coincidence?
this is all lies they are manipulating you. I am an Iranian we need voice. They are killing peaceful protesters
@@imanirannejad so killing 10 police man is peacefull protest?
was waiting for you guys to cover this, ive had no idea what’s going on cause i refuse to believe any narrative the u.k. media uses.
Oh, you need this channel to do your work for you and spoon feed you your ideological preferences. I've got news for you, they are lazier than you. Lazy, ideological, twits. Do your own work like I do. I actually have been in contact with people living in Iran, trying to help them. Truly, despicable video. But it does fit the ideological preferences of its mindless followers who await breathlessly to be told what to think.
After seeing western media literally blur out signs from images of Cuban protests to make it fit their narrative I've decided to not trust what they tell me. And if it's a protest that's getting so much attention like this against an anti-US country I know something has to be up.
This is always the correct impulse imo
Same here in Brazil. One cannot trust
@@melissaschossler2308 Do you trust the clowns in this video?
This guy is great, bring him on more please
Yeah absolutely !!! so let's recap what they did. Everybody besides the Iranian government is either crazy, brainwashed, traitor who sided with the West. Nice job this is exactly IRGC propaganda! they just wrap as an interview so you can enjoy it.
At last, a conversation that reflects the realities of life in Iran. Thank you, Rania.
@@cherylderue336 Watch the Greyzone, they had a female iranian guest from inside iran. I'm sure your feminist head will explode. BTW Mahsa wasn't stopped for her hijab, it was for her pants.
@@cherylderue336 I’ve listened to like 15 minutes of this and the video is not made to inform or shine a light on the situation. The guys is bashing US instead. He keeps minimizing the magnitude of the actual situation. If you’re actually looking to know what is going on, this video is doing the opposite. Funny how they’re talking about media influence being bad but ironically that is the exact thing that they’re doing, in support of the regime.
@@arash1934 these regime's lobbyists are everywhere. Iranian people's blood is on their hands too. they basically wanna silence Iranians' voice by any means they can. and one old trick is to blame it on west and say it's all west's evil plans to manipulate Iranians and not because there's anything wrong with Islamic Republic! just disgusting
@@cherylderue336 yep! And many more factors such as small school girls literally out in streets chanting some heavy stuff; the security forces going in the schools and beating up/threatening/arresting them (they’re so scared they resort to such actions); the school personnel who’re with the regime threatening said school girls to be tortured (there’s audio of that if you don’t believe); regime having not enough security forces thus dressing up little kids for show of force; ….
Thank you for not falling for these type of propagandas from the regime effectively. And special thanks to your persian friend who told you about the situation!
@@cherylderue336 thanks for your understanding! It’s becoming a rarity these days
Sanction only hearts poor people .
🤔 hearts = ❤❤❤
Did you mean *hurts* ?
Mercu beaucoup. I had several Iranian friends that disappeared in 1979 from one day to the next on our campus. I talked with one and he said he was getting the hell out of Dodge.
Great conversation, I learned a lot about Iran.
If a woman takes off her shirt here in Connecticut, even if it's ninety-five degrees, a cop will tell her to put it back on again or face consequences. Women have been ejected from public places for nursing their babies.
Man
No country can top American hypocrisy.
wow, sounds like the USA needs some regime change. Russia or China should intervene! (sarcasm)
@@supernsansa In the USA, as in Iran, dress codes for girls and women are meant to protect them from men, whom natural selection has designed to be sex fiends and who typically lose self-control at the sight of a woman's skin or hair. Clothes help subdue the males just enough to allow the females to select which ones to mate with. If men were less aggressive or women less discriminating, homo sapiens would probably be extinct by now.
@@supernsansa I know you're being tongue in cheek but I, for one, would love to see us follow the Chinese model to deal with issues like poverty, infrastructure and foreign relations.
i really would love to see yall with CC, us folks with disabilities are having a hard time without them! love yalls content and the need for the topics addressed :)
i guess its just this video, Ill turn the sound all the way up and watch it twice i guess haha
@@Zayskibop It looks like automatic CC are available on the video now, if you haven't already made do without them and moved on. ❤
Been waiting for this, thank you!
Rania, you are asking the most important questions. This a great interview, the gentleman is very balanced. Super job 🙏🏾
Great insightful guest, really gives a more objective take than you can get basically anywhere else. Rania has a great skill for getting people with fresh insights where most places are satisfied with engaging in an echo chamber of anti-imperialism with little actual depth.
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Thanks Rania for Navid's analysis. Greetings from Malaysia
I learned quite a bit from him. Excellent questions and analysis. .....of institutionalized "bad-bakhti", which I translate it to bad cast of life or destiny, in Iran and the illusinal "we are free" in US.
The amount of obfuscation that this man is doing is unbelievable. He is whitewashing a medieval regime. Azizam, in agha rasman mozdoor hast.
Excellent conversation. People around the world are becoming aware of this media & cultural manipulation. Thanks for your contribution to this growing awareness.
Yes,the west,especially Americans politics,had habits of creating misinformation,to overthrow country leaders they didn't like or believe so or 🤔🤭🧐
@@90madagaskar thank you the most sensible comment ever
I get more cultural exchange here on BT than in any of the American media. Thanks for another great conversation.
I live in the center of Tehran. you need a better source for your cultural exchange. it's clearly petrodollar propaganda. the phd guy is a trained apologist and lobbyist. The death of Mahsa only sparked the protests. it's not only about the morality police anymore. people want to topple the Islamic republic regime now. we don't need this Authoritarian Theocracy anymore. majority of Iranians want regime change.
@@sinanag9575 wow, is anyone else seeing this? they're glowing so bright!
@@supernsansa There's a lot of misleading information in this content. It's just a huge red herring designed to reduce our cause to the morality police and Hijab. The population of Iranian diaspora is much much larger and more diverse than what you see in this propaganda. more than 4 million iranians live outside of Iran. and believe it or not most of them are leftists and liberals and the majority of them want regime change. People from all classes from all over the earth. just go outside find a random iranian and ask them what they want. All of them demand regime change. He also tries to whitewash the fundamentalist murderer of hundreds of thousands of ethnic minorities Soleimani as someone who apposes the "morality police". which is the biggest lie in this video and exposes him as the IRGC agent that he really is. People are burning his posters and banners all over Iran. I can't list all of the lies and fallacies. i don't have the time. just remember it's just oil dollars talking.
How is BT not American media? The owners, hosts, and guests are all American.
@@Ruairitrick they are independent, anyone who talking about the actual American media would know we are talking about corporate media like CNN or Foxnews SMH. nice try with your word gymnastics.
I think this conversation is incomplete because it’s only talking about Iran and the west. It should also talk about Iran and Russia. There’s the Ukrainian flight that was hit three years ago by Iran.
Very informative. I had been trying to understand these protests better for a while now & after watching this it makes more sense. I loved the history part about the veil. Thank you!
Thankful for your understood!!! And trying to find out the truth!!! NOT propaganda!!!
Riana, if you can go talk to Masha’s parents, and talk to other parents whose kids got killed. Can you reach out to them? Will they allow you to reach them?
Rania is hezbollahi. She is against the Iranian protesters
She would not. She is a Mozdoor!
Hey body mahsa was not killed her father is member of terrorist group of kumoleh and he just jump on fake narrative of lazier bahari who later admitted he lied because he hates Iranian government she had some medical complication and because of stress she collapsed Most of people who were arrested confessed that some people in instagram approached them and promised them a free Apple phone or bitcoin and millions on their accounts for every crime they were doing they were getting paid but they had to film their crimes
Thank you both. It is hugely enlightening.
I love how transparent you are, would you release the list of your donors? Thank you
We very much appreciate the work u RK & your team are doing- helping awake peoples of the world.
(Frm NZ)
Thank you for such an intelligent conversation
Excellent informative nuanced educating discussion. Please bring him more, this guy is very intelligent and educating on Iran
"They call themselves Persians, in California."
So true, and in New York too!😄
"Persians" = "Our family was rich before the revolution!"
makes me yak
@@az6802 like
your mom 😂
That’s because they are sherlock
@@Bozlee22 ahh someone's feelings got hurt?
Thx for the update
It was a tremendous informative analysis 🎉❤
The famous Iranian actress Taraneh Alidoosti was - I think last year - given a five month suspended prison sentence for simply agreeing with a female friend on Twitter who said she thought that Hijab shouldn't be required by law. Besides such laws being wrong in my view, this just feeds the U.S. hostility toward all things Iranian - which itself is toxic.
Still not US's business..
Many detainees locked up in Guantanamo Bay were innocent men swept up by U.S. forces unable to distinguish enemies from noncombatants, a former Bush administration official said..
My friend you should respect the laws of a country , Iran is run by islamists like it or not .
This regime cannot go against the word of god as mentioned in the holy book . They are
In a predicament .
Not true
Thank you for this topic, I always love to hear the other narrative when I know we're being fed state propaganda about America's "enemies". Whether it's Iran, China Russia or north Korea, I find it hard to find unbiased information. Always enlightening.
Just because life is great for American media doesn't mean life is the same for everyone else. People who have to look for tragedy outside their own country to find it are living in a privilege bubble.
u$a's msm treats domestic and foreign topics with the same 'be compliant to neoliberal govt or face repudiation' screening process
Lady , US is not supporting Iran protests - I understand you feel like you are against imperialism. And Iran regime is your favorite- but you are supporting fascism. And this guy you are interviewing is also pro regime.
One question? Why don’t you ask him about other free media in Iran ?
People in safe countries severely underestimate the value of a government - any government. Back when Syria was about to be invaded by the US, I was aware how problematic Assad’s government was. There were quite a few legitimate issues. And of course, Gaddafi’s government in Libya wasn’t exactly awesome.
But Syria was the first time I saw what happens to people when you destroy a government- even a bad one. There are so many things people take for granted that the very existence of a government - any government - provides to a nation.
Foreign intervention is very dangerous, if you care about people (not just the currently oppressed ones, but the ones not currently oppressed as well), and you only want to even consider such a thing from proven sincere nations. so many of the countries colonised by the west came to be so, through accepting their intervention in local or regional issues.
Edit: Also, in non western countries where English isn’t the primary language, a good rule of thumb is that the mainstream opinion wouldn’t be found in the writings & expressions in English. This isn’t just because the society that is primarily writing in English are separated in class from the mainstream, but they’re also more likely to want to share those views to westerners whereas the mainstream sometimes actively avoids it. Sometimes the gap in opinion is slight, sometimes the gap is polar opposite in size, but it rarely matches. It’s kind of like asking views about British culture from the part of the population that prefers speaking Mandarin.
Government has NO value
the ""revolution" in Libya was the stupidest of the stupidest things to ever happen. the Libyans had everything at their disposal, they were one of the wealthiest people in the middle east and Africa. Gadafi would give money to anyone who wants to study abroad...they didn't have any issues. all the "Arab Winter" countries are in their worst ever state. spare us the western freedoms because we don't need them. people are eating from garbage in my country for fuks sake.
and yeah, these so called "revolutions" happened during a time of economic recovery after the economic crisis, although the so called suppression of ""free speech"" has been going for at least 10 years....
Libya: overrun by Jihadis with open slave markets. So much for NATO's intervention
True. Many working class people in Iran don't speak english or even read the latin alphabet.
I am surprised to hear that Voice of America is in Iran...this group is no different than other US groups.
They access it through satellite television not state television.
~10:00 agreed. The only police officers I'm afraid of are ones from the US fwiw. I have visited many countries...
Yeah me too
And the thing is, corporate international travel advice resources never mentions any such risks for western countries, whereas every little crime, instability, law enforcement, natural disaster, health etc risks is mentioned for east countries, even if it won’t affect travel or is outdated, or of the same severity as is accepted and not mentioned in a western country.
@@nurainiarsad7395 If you see how brutally these Iranian forces have no fear of killing innocent children, you wouldn't say this. 3 years ago they killed over 2000 people. this year, so far, they've killed 400 people including 40 children. They will eliminate anyone who apposes them. They are with deadly weapons and people with bare hands. People have no choice but to get armed with DIY weapons.
Thank you
Awsome interview, love the show.
Thanks a lot, it was a very good and fair discussion of the subject. I am of the opinion that the US lead block's interferences to radicalize these protests is not only to push for regime change, but also to intentionally make it impossible or difficult to translate people's grievances into positive reforms. In the long run if states cannot rectify their errors they become more susceptible to collapse.
The protesters also call for down with dictators.
I love Rania!
Yes she's dawn hot.
Great preamble 💪🏿
Navid Zarrinnal is intelligent, well informed and engaging which makes for an excellent interview.
Well done Rhania.
Zarrinal is a weasely gutless shameless apologist of an Islamofascist theocratic patriarchal regime which is inimical to freedom and inherently violative of human rights. He is using the (possible) misreporting of the reason for the young woman's demise as an exculpatory smokescreen to obscure 43 year reign of religious terror.
In London pro-Shah protestors threw stones at women and children in a procession for Imam al-Husayn (grandson of the Prophet). How is that promoting women's rights?
Thanks for the 'real' news.
Majority of Iranian women are well dressed from the point of descent dress code.
Religious zealots have distorted idea of decency and wish to exercise their authority .
Prayers for peace and respect for human rights.
Western sanctions and bullying of Iran causes more harm to Iranian citizens including women and children.
Dictatorship is imposed on Iranian citizens from outside .
Great program here . God bless you
Thank you, Rania. This is just so informative.
The Iranian regime blaming everything on foreign interference has worked but for how much longer with a youthful population ready for change?
See the 2009 "Green" colour revolution for the answer to that.
Regime change has been on the agenda for IRAN , from the United States since 1980.Also it was actually done in 1953,
When the Shah was put in power.
Of course oil is the main reason for all of this.
Jimmy Carter supported the 1979 revolution. So definitely not since 1980.
If we want social revolution to be possible in Iran we need to end the sanctions regimes, psyops, support for terroristic organizations, all that is used to destabilize regions targeted by regime change operations.
Even genuinely progressive or even revolutionary grassroots challenges to the status quo will be supported and co-opted opening up opportunities to balkanize and destabilize.
Taking control of states can prove challenging, so the default is to simply destroy states. When "democracy" is imposed it can flare up tensions as people vote along ethnic or religious lines.
In certain geographical spaces full of dormant wealth, the goal is to create free, anarchic zones where there is no longer any state, shielding them from the permanent risk that a state, even a weak one, may prefer another commercial client. The destruction of Congo, Iraq, Afghanistan, Somalia, Libya, and Yemen are examples of this strategy.
Iranian support for the Palestinians and others who resists the zionist state are of course a huge factor in this.
@@rfb5206 An the Ayatollah was in Western Exile. Western governments initially supported him because they preferred it to the left.
@@rfb5206 However, Ronald Reagan was credited with eventually getting the hostages back, and if he could have managed it, would have definitely wanted regime change.Then put in a puppet leader, such the Shah. Or similar lackey
This guy doesn’t even know that the morality police won’t leave you alone even if you’re in your own car!!!
The Mahsa Amini Protests seem to be focused on everything but Mahsa Amini's case, which supposedly "sparked" them.
What exactly makes you think like that? Mahsa Amini head was smashed to death , and that sparked anger among iranian women. What does your theory says?
@@shikharashish4839 The protestors themselves' are saying it's not about her or even about hijab grievances they only want a full on regime change and are listing all sorts of random other unrelated grievances for it. Also there is no proof of the claims her "head was smashed to death." The only real evidence we have is video of her at the detention room acting completely normal for a time up until she suffered what looks like a heart attack. Also, it probably sparked anger among iranian women but the majority of the protestors in the streets were young violent teenage boys.
If anyone is going to protest for legitimate reasons (not due to latching on to ruin the crux of the issue), don’t use the shah era flag. The girl who died was Kurdish and that flag is associated with the monarchy which was incredibly anti-Kurdish and upheld ideals of Persian hegemony (despite popular conception they only make up 60% of Iranian) over the minorities of Iran. People sadly still do that which makes me think they don’t give a fuck about this woman’s life or identity.
@@shikharashish4839 Ah! What can we expect from a typical Indian hindutva troll?
I have been living in iran for three years. I have seen absolutely nothing in this society that suggests violwnce aginst people. There is very very little of that. Iraniens are not a violent society. Iran is not a radical country and the people are very polite, fair and kind.
Great! Thanks!!!
This Iranian guy is very knowledgeable and gives a true view of what is happening inside Iran.
Excellent , and informative coverage of the current situation in Iran.mr Zarrinnal is one of the few Iranians leaving abroad who speaks of the facts and it is very interesting to listen to.
In many ways we do have a morality / fashion police in the west also.
For example in many jobs i have had, we have been forced to use a dress and tie.
And here in Scandinavia, if you do not care about following the latest fashion but use old clothes the chance of being stopped by the police is very big.
Once they even said it strait out to me "you do understand why we stop you?" and then they was pointing at my clothes..
When i answered that i knew and it was because they had become a fashion police they got angry, but had of course no argument against it, it was just that it was a bit to direct fact for them..
Comfort different reality. Nobody talking about old and new clothes. Iran headscarf mandatory, if not they pull the woman into van and take to cite. Nobody force to go for job interview. Woman in street to buy something to eat need to be wearing head scarf. This is force. Or they will be pulled to van and cited. This force, somebody pull to van without personal will and acceptance. Exchange of word do not mean force
@@mosa8184 You can also see RUclips videos of woman being arrested in California for having a bikini at the beach..
That is force.
55:43 I don't know the specifics, but I know that Saudi Arabia's laws relating to women have liberalized quite a bit in recent years. You may want to check it out.
Correction: the saudi version of morality police has been dismantled a few years back and the guardianship system is a male escort as much as a "guardian" who has legal claim over you which is kinda worse but different
How much of it is funded and instigated by the us establishment?
Enjoyed watching the content. I would suggest Rania visit Iran,if you haven't, see for yourself. Dont worry about hijab, put on a loose scarf on your head,it'll be an eye opener. There are many European tourists visiting.
Mahsa was detained for her tight pants, not loose hijab. Women should've taken off their pants in public to support her.
I totally agree with you .That would’ve been more interesting.
much needed informatioal video
I saw the video of her standing around with a bunch of other women inside the police station lobby and she just collapsed. No one approached her and there were no men around. Also, apparently, the reason or her arrest was that she was wearing very tight pants and not improper hijab.
Which video?
@@DrSpooglemon You can see it on Richard Medhurst's channel
before that she was walking, talking to a woman, and sitting in the room and showed zero discomfort or signs of a fatal beating. There were also literally no men around yet of course men are getting blamed by the feminists. little do they know its female morality police who apprehend women for hijab violations (look it up)
@@ebflegg I actually just saw the video on a regular news channel. The title even referred to her being assaulted while the video showed her just casually walking over and talking another woman before collapsing. On top of that there are no bruises on he in the pictures of her in hospital.
Wow tight pants. How evil of her. Lol. Give me a break dude. Wrong is wrong and right is right
Compare the anti government protests with the pro government protests. Former usually fades in comparison to the later.
The moment there is slight dissendence in Iran, because Iran is an opponent of the US, it's gets all the US propaganda media apparatus attention in disproportionate fashion
As someone who grew up under Saddam's regime. For 20 years. Ppl dont want to live in a dictatorship. If every time u gonna blame any rebellion against any regime on push by the west. That's just idiotic. Yescunited states have been involved in wars, invasions, human rights violations. But that doesn't mean when ppl revolutionize not just bcs they are pushed by the west. Actually the west is the one who is protecting those regimes. I am a person who is on the left but still can understand the difference between ppl want freedom and change, and ppl are usee as a tool by the west for a change.
You've brought out The Lobby to troll on the weekend...must be a threat to them!
When it comes to the protests in Iran, Sedighe Vasmaghi, an iranian lawyer, suggests that the officials of Iran should either resign or organize a referendum. Perhaps she is right.
"To protect the country, Iran’s rulers have a duty to find the best solution - they can’t blame it all on the protesters and foreign powers... Not listening to the protesters’ voices is one of the main problems in our country. There needs to be a peaceful solution other than repression."
- Sedighe Vasmaghi
I think if the protesters in Iran want to succeed, they need to study past protests that succeeded throughout history and why they succeeded. Also, they need to study past protests that failed throughout history and why they failed. In other words, knowledge of history is vital. With regard to the protests in Iran, it seems that it's better for the protesters to learn the easy and fast way through "knowledge of history", than to learn the slow and hard way through "experience (trial and error)."
Your final comments on regime change are so spot on, Rania. People need to hear more of that.
Iranians must be smart, yes they hv to fight for their rights but not by destroying the country, Iranians suffering for long time due to western sanctions
The west exhibits the extraordinary tendency to latch on to the slightest opposition in countries with whose political systems they are at odds, supported all the way by their media. Meanwhile these countries continue with the more important task of the governance of their general population!
Absolutely. Ask a hijabi in Phoenix, Saskatoon or Delhi (India or Ontario!) how safe they feel to practise their religion!
Excellent discussions and great analysis.
👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🙏🙏
As an Iranian-American, this is the best coverage of this tooic I’ve listened to so far.
What? I thought all Iranian-Americans love the shah. /s.
@@vannakinder352 What was so redeeming about the Shah? Or more specifically his twin sister and SAVAK?
In 1998 I was denied entrance in some sh!tty LA night club because I didn't have a tie.
I demand immediate regime change in US!!!
Did they then beat you?
@@stevejenkins8380 We have Woke scum for it now.
America delenda est.
@@stevejenkins8380 Show us some proof of a single women getting beaten to death simply for not wearing a hijab. I've looked for ages due to claims of iranian expats I know and haven't found a single video. On the contrary I've seen women in iran walking around without hijab, burning hijab (since 1980s), throwing off their hijab looking happy and not worried at all for their livelihoods. None seemed to be afraid of any repercussions, they dont even try to hide their faces or identity. People can't act like that under an actual repressive regime like pre-2018 saudi for example. Those women would all be dead.
Hi Rania, I just happened to watch the video. I have seen other left like Abby Martin before. Just to make it clear that I am not pro or against anyone, only an observer. You are right. everyone has own agenda, including your guest. He deliberately omitted the presence of thousands of young teenagers gen z on streets demanding the change. He also omitted the obvious brutality of the Iranian police against protestors including the kids as young as fifteen years old. What amaze me is that many of these critics having no voices in their own country. They come to US, enjoying freedom and all privileges, voicing against US imperialism. This is not new. Before the October revolution, prominent communists, like Alexandra Kollontai, Nikolai Bukharin, Leon Trotsky, and many others, having no voice in their respective country, settled in US, voicing against US imperialism !. Etc...
Rania khalek has her own agenda. She will take anything against USA or West even if its not true
Exactly. He minimized the brutality of the government towards women; rapes, beatings, and imprisonment.
Worst of all he omitted the medieval Islamofascist theocratic patriarchal mindset which is inimical to freedom and inherently violative of human rights.
±18 Iranians police was killed also, no single word about this.
What is the name of the American ambassador to Egypt?
excellent insights. I think the comments around the 48-50 min mark are essential to understanding the situation.
The guy in that Twitter clip is a spitting image of Cenk Uygur with a mustache. Ironically, you wouldn't be able to tell the difference in their politics.
As an Iranian university student in heart of Tehran, I say the REALITY is totally different from what is shown in western media. Thanks for this honest conversation.
Bro why are you lying? Chera dooroog migi? Dokhtarah daran mikoshan!!!!! Toam ino midooni!!!!
@@theseanmodd Your Persian is not bad for an "Israeli"...
@@theseanmodd Shalom
Can you please tell us how you see it please. Maybe it helps to understand.
great....breakthrough news running cover for iran's leaders.? principled
Thanks Thanks Thanks Rania Khalek for this unique interview beside all the propaganda spreads about this issue!
Thanks to professor Navid Zarrinnal for his Scholarly explanation! Bravo!🎉👏👏👏👏👏👏Awesome
It doesn't matter how she died. She died under a custody that should never have happened. It's wrong to have any theocracy even Israel and women should not have these restrictions period.
Iran is NOT a Theocracy!! Grow some maturity and try to learn the government structure of a country before labelling it!! Your comment is typical of a WHITE MAN/WOMEN!!
The same imperialists forces that these two are talking about, were determining in 1979 uprising in Iran to make Khomeini the face of that movement. So, what is the argument here? The same imperialist give and take as they wish? Where area people in this equation?
Yeah lets ignore millions protestors in iran who support the regime
@@A13b100 we should. They don’t exist
Where was mainstream media when Julian Assange and Edward Snowden and Andrew Tate and Jordan Peterson and many others were silenced for expressing their freedom of speech?I already know the answer.
Hello Rania, This is the first time I see you on the RUclips. I am not sure about your family background, and I don't know whether you speak Farsi or not. By the way, I am writing from inside of Iran and what Navid said about the reason of Mahsa'a death is one million percent wrong and completely unacceptable. Here I list my reasons for you and for your viewers:
1- Islamic Republic has lied many times to his citizens. Most recent and most obvious was hitting the Ukrainian Airline with two missiles just after death of Soleimani. The regime denied for weeks, used Bulldozer to hide everything on the crack down location of airplane. At the end intelligent service of Canada and some other countries exposed the truth. I should emphasis that the IRGC even hide the truth from Javad Zarif (which was Minister of Foreign Affairs of regime)
2- Two journalists inside Iran who interviewed Mahsa's dad are arrested just before they release their reports. What her dad could possibly say that they are not allowed anyone to interview him?
3- Mahsa's dad has interview with a Farsi TV station outside Iran. he said the authority in Official Forensic, two days after Mahsa's death, told him "I would report whatever I want and you cannot do anything".
The fact of all these three are available in Farsi and I can send it to anybody.
Navid is not telling the truth, the reason may related to the fact that he is not inside the country and he is not aware of ruthless of the regime.
Mani, you raise some very good points. With that being said, if the protesters in Iran want to succeed, they need to be realistic and practical. Any reasonable person understands that its more realistic and practical to change/reform the regime of Iran than to try to spark a "regime change". It's crucial to be realistic and practical. Because history shows/proves that realism and practicality always wins. Any reasonable person understands that its more realistic and practical to change/reform the regime of Iran than to try to spark a "regime change". I am sure you agree.
If the protesters in Iran want to succeed, they need to focus on women rights and achieving freedom (namely removing/changing the law of compulsory/mandatory hijab for women). To put it in another way, they need to focus on changing/reforming the regime. The protesters won't benefit from trying to spark a "regime change". Because the government of Iran is very powerful and the protesters in Iran are very weak compared to the government. Thus, if the protesters try to spark a "regime change", not only will they suffer major losses, but they will most likely fail. If one does a cost-benefit analysis, one comes to the conclusion that the cost of trying to spark a regime change in Iran is too high to make it a worthwhile cause. Unfortunately, it seems that the protesters in Iran have lost their initial aims/objectives along the way. They seem to have deviated from their initial aims/objectives which was to achieve certain rights for women and achieve freedom.
If the protesters in Iran are able to convince or inspire/motivate the government of Iran to abandon the law of compulsory/mandatory hijab, that will be a small victory for the iranian people, which can lead to other victories in the future. The fact is that "Success is a series of small victories." Also, "little drops of water make a mighty ocean."
"A small gain is worth more than a large promise."
- Fables of Aesop
"A man who moves a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."
- Chinese proverb
There is a an excellent article about "street protests" by the author Moses Naim. He wrote his article for the magazine "The Atlantic." The title of his article is "Why street protests don't work". In his article, he claims that most street protests don't work. If you want to know more about the advantages and disadvantages of street protests, I advise you to read his article. You can find it online.
I think there is a window of opportunity in Iran. I believe that there is a possibility for real change in Iran. Hopefully, the Iranians won't spoil it by permanently getting sidetracked (deviate) from their initial aims/objectives which was to achieve certain rights for women and achieve freedom.
By the way, as regards to Hijab, the fact is that there is no compulsion in the religion of islam, according to at least two verses in the Quran. Since there is no compulsion in islam, it is evident and indisputable that a muslim can't force another muslim or a non-muslim (christian, jew, buddhist, hindu, zoroastrian, taoists, atheist, agnostic and so on) to wear a hijab. Therefore, the Quran doesn't support compulsory hijab.
There is no compulsion in religion... (Quran 2:256)
If it had been your Lord’s will, they would all have believed, all who are on earth. Will you then compel the people against their will to believe? (Quran 10:2)
Moreover, verse 2:256 and verse 10:2 shows that the Quran supports "freedom of religion." Additionally, there is no punishment for not wearing hijab in the Quran. As I have mentioned earlier, the Quran doesn't support compulsory/mandatory hijab. Therefore, the government of Iran should abandon the law of compulsory/mandatory hijab once and for all. This is the right thing to do.
The Quran encourages both men and women to dress modestly. According to the Quran, men have to cover their private parts (see verse 24:30). Also, according to the Quran, women have to cover their private parts and cast their cover clothes over their cleavage (namely cover their breasts (see verse 24:31). If men want to use shorts and short sleeved shirts, they are allowed to use it according to the Quran. However, the dress code in Iran prohibits men from using shorts and short sleeved shirts. Thus, the dress code for men in Iran isn't compatible with the Quran.
Finally, according to the Quran, God have given people the knowledge of making garments to cover their nakedness, but the garment of righteousness is the best of all garments. To put it in another way, the character of a person is more important the clothes he/she wears.
O you Children of Adam! We have given you clothing to cover yourselves (and private parts), and also for decoration for you. But the clothing of righteousness- That is the best... (Quran 7:26)
Iranians have tried your suggestions and they have not worked. We know about true Islam. This is not about Islam, it’s about forcing people to live according to the wishes of a government which claims to be Islamic.
@@seeker7288 Iranians don't need lessons from you.
watch press tv
Iran stay strong .. .God bless iran ❤️🇮🇷
it doesn't really matter why she died whether beating or her condition. if she hadn't been arrested she'd be living today.
everyone protests. he skipped the part of how many including lots of children were arrested and killed.
One should compare what this Alinejad is doing with what Kashiughi did and understand the freedom that these people have.