Russia must accept India's rise as a global power, no longer a 3rd world nation : Trenin & Mukerji
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- Опубликовано: 13 сен 2024
- In this edition of #ThePrintDebates, ThePrint's Senior Consulting Editor Jyoti Malhotra spoke to Dmitri Trenin, director of the Carnegie Moscow Center in Moscow and Asoke Kumar Mukerji, a former Indian diplomat who has served in senior positions in Russia and as Permanent Representative to the UN, on the significance of the Russian president Vladimir Putin's visit to India.
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Such a nice discussion. Thank you Jyoti for asking some really great questions. Just one feedback 26:14 41:25 42:10 Ambassador Mukerji was making some good points and I wished you didn't cut him short. Let them speak their minds and not look for the direct answers you are looking for. Thank you.
That
Jyoti Mam doesn't like listening to opposing views. She is a true liberal.
Common old problem with Ms Jyothi...interrupting and disallowing a serious flow of thought....but one still listens to Print...only because the participants are thankfully usually very interesting..and smartly communicative..
Listening to Amb Mukerjee describing the US policy so brilliantly and yet so subtly disparaging and combative..he just breezed thru exoecting another potential interruption..Kudos to bity the participants..
That's her behavior. Its nuisance btw
Stop hyping India as a global power, Putin to tell India to buy more Russia military equipment. China and Russia are in military alliances to face against the West. China is 10X more powerful than the Soviet Union at its peak. Hahaha....
Anyone can accept India's global power of poverty. First things first. Divorce The USA hegemonic principles. Next become a government for your poor. You and China need to become friends and merge economy as much as possible. As you can see my governments global prestigious out look is falling. There are thousands of people sleeping under bridges here. Please add that to your Western portfolio.
In order to become a global power, India must first realize its industrialization, without relying on external forces, and being independent in aerospace, aviation, military and other fields. Otherwise, a global power without strength is just a dream.
India needs to grow up to earn the title of a global power. A global power is not named by itself but recognized by others.
The Russians going to India because the West is planning to sanction Russia, kicking her out of global finacial system, so now Russia needs to diversify away from West and have finacial deal with India and others.
Cannot agree more!
Exactly.
No need global stage ! Work silent under blanket ! No shows of muscle power
Do not waste energy on global agenda !
Develop yourself first , make sure establish own military power and quipmnents .
After 2035 , start to show muscles 💪 but for peace !
And please , everyone works on hindu identity ! 🙏
Bahot kaam karne Hai desh me and desh ke Bahar 1000 years ka pain peacefully wipe out karna Hai
(without war and killings )
UNDERSTAND internal islamic threat first.
You can not reach outside if you have internal issues .
If 10000 dollars candidature india from inside then you never ever able achieve that goal of global stage .
Wipe out Islam threat first , erase caste system , at least take a stance .unite Hindus.
Then look forwards , otherwise china will is ready to provide 10000 dollars to disturb india
But endia loves to name itself as global power and also name itself as experts when endia is actually clown .
The world is not stupid to see how powerful India has becomes under Modi’s government. From Kashmir to Ladakh etc.
It's embarrassing that india themselves calling them super power with 2000$ per capita.
Lol China per capita is also 10k dollars . And it's economy is slowing and Indian economy is growing in good growth rate . And India is not superpower . It's is middle power . Which will grow day by day . Currently there is only one superpower which is usa .
A great insight. A advice “Stop cutting when someone speaks!”.
she always did that. when she sense something is going to be said contrary to what she expected to be answered.
I am a Russian native speaker and quasi Russian and I can say that Dmitry Trenin is absolutely right, politically interested people in Russia (don't know what the actual politicians really think) quite often underestimate India and often comically overestimate Russia. I mean all Russians know that Russia isn't anything like the Soviet Union, but they just don't want to let go of an imperialistic mentalitiy, often exactly to make up with mentality the missing reality.
Western imprealistic ?
In the Soviet Union, people were not confident in themselves, they felt second-rate in front of the West. Now Russia feels its unique civilization, and people are full of faith in their strength and the right path. But at the same time, pragmatism remains.
@@individumerdeka9868 "Western imperialism" - yeah, so what's your point? Does it change anything I wrote or has any relevance here? An adequate assessment of its own capabilities and its place in the world by Russia would make its foreign policies more effecient generally - including defending against Western imperialism.
That is not just true of Russia. Its true of almost all countries. For instance look at UK, the old Britain still thinks that it is the ruler of the world. Why else would they so confidently walk through Brexit when almost all their produce consumed locally is imported from mainland Europe.
I also think that India-Russia cooperation must extend between peoples of the two countries. Coz the new generation that is currently growing up in India might not view Russia as favorably as we did, vis-a-vis United States say.
What part of reality is missing? please show with your finger where it was, or should be.(will not accept if you point at Hollywood, or Bollywood for that matter)
Well done Jyoti. You got a lot out of Dr Trenin and Ambassador Mukherjee. Dr Trenin said something quite profound i.e Russia needs a reset in its relations with India because ground realities have changed so significantly. Russia is not the Soviet Union and China is no longer the country that the uS loves. Russia has to rebalance relations have to take into account a new changed world
You sound like if China would care if the USA loves it. India had "the love" of UK and USA for hundreds of years, and is still a "developing" country (not saying 3rd world). The reliance on foreign Investment is still very real in certain industrial branches. Yes, India might have the Manpower, but they don't seem very organized with it, unless it is about Military issues. Every caste boils its own little stew, and drives away foreign companies by taxing them retrospectively. Nokia comes to mind
India behaves normally when Putin visited, but When Trump and pompeo visited, India was so aggressive toward China.
I always find it amusing when even journalists use "third world country" as a derogatory term and forgets its connection with the World War.
India claims it no longer is a 3rd world nation, while China says it will always side with the 3rd world nations, which is more self confident?
China is a 3rd world developing country. India is Not 🤣
@@mikeliu5201 India is super power
What a difference between watching today's India's media channels and this where Wise mens talks so wise and frankly, Loved it..👏👏
Anchor kept focusing on China. This interview should have focused on the main thing that is India - Russia. Both guests kept emphasizing that but the anchor always went back to that theme and that was not good practice.
What India is doing is doing independently and for its own sake
1) AK 203 deal for Rs 5100 crore- in Amethi, UP
2) RELOS agreement which gives India access to all international bases of Russia.
3) India's statement that it is participating in Quad, Quad 2
4) Purchasing US defense equipment
A limiting interview in few aspects.
Shekar Gupta asks for money, I am okay to pay. But for some reason I think Jyothi Malhotra is not a fit. She just misses the point! In India - Russia relationship why is she talking about China. 90% of the focus - every question has a Chinese angle.
She's paid to talk about China. Just like every American media network. Remember Biden's 300$ million per year fund for any media network to make propaganda against China.
India media nowadays have gone bonkers, everything is about China. No more balance news and commentary. Probably they can mint more money this way, but it really makes many naive Indians to having a twisted world view and unusually insular.
@@vinayrvarma This is called the China love. China love group is expanding in a fast phase in Paxtan and Bangladesh and also exists in India among some liberals. These people mostly grew up in 60s to 80.
Stop hyping India as a global power, Putin to tell India to buy more Russia military equipment. China and Russia are in military alliances to face against the West. China is 10X more powerful than the Soviet Union at its peak. Hahaha....
I think we are blowing our own trumpet. For both Russia and US we are one of largest defence buyers. Same to France and Israel. If we are compared with Pakistan we look very important. The fact is we cant even make a laptop or mobile phones with more then 50% local content.
You are right partially and wrong partially.
things don't happens like that in world that u develop all things of a product.
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Actually Putin came India to collect the payment of the S 400 which the BJP has failed to pay in time. It is almost six months the payments were deferred. Russia needs this money urgently for army and factory workers payment.
do you know that we already made an advance payment in 2018 ?
I like the observation. But can it be limited to this narrow confines only?
@@navaneeth1087 Also INDIA raise the millions of Dollar line of credit for Russia ,So there was no question of payment . so ignorant people need to do their home work if they wants have their opinion.
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A nation is a global power when it makes most of its defence system and net exporter, when it is in the top trade partner with all continents, when it has eliminated poverty by 90%, has 90% literacy and access to good public health. Is that India's case ?
no, nilch nada never. india will be always a third world shathole
Only politicians and administrators can think India as global power, but technocrats and scientists know where India stands.
And what are you among technocrat And Scientist?
Any technocrat will tell you that it's about trajectory, not about a snapshot of 'right now'. They would demur when asked if India is a global power or not, because it's not a relevant question to them. It is only relevant to politicians, administrators, and heads of military.
Russia foreign trade is 673B$ last yr. India gets 9.5B of that or 1.5% vs China's 21%. RU--CN has long land borders but no borders issues. PIpelines, BRI trains pass through Russia to China. Many Russian banks are in the Chinese payment system. So it's real puzzling what The Print's brief on India competiting against China vis-a-vis Russian relation is really about.
Strategic. Cause russia too need countries so that russsia have more diplomatic cash in the high table. Apart from that millitary sales are not only brings us dollars but also diplomatic dollars.
Lol....India is no China , that's for sure
Imagine if India, Russia and China can work with each other - the world would be such wonderful place to live in!
Then Western dominance would end and we would be self sufficient....But alas for this Xi Jinping the world is not like that
tHANK God, your country is not run by the commentator, i hope Indian politicians are not like that, amateur, so easily fouled by fake news.
fooled
Yes we also want but China need to solve border problem with India first and stop bullying India and stop terrorism funding to Pakistan.
@@globalinsider.1412 The border between India and China was drawn by the imperialist British. Both India and China have been victims as result. They did it in advance way to ensure forever disputes between the two countries. It's their philosophy of divide and conquer. Hope some day the two governments will come together with cool heads and solve the disputes.
India has lost its way sad to say incompetent politicians in India still living in colonial days WAKE up india we want you to succeed less talking and more actions
Thanks for your positive mindset. Yes we admit that we have a few bad apples as our minister in important positions but you need to look at the picture on a deeper level. Kindly get out of your government's mouthpiece "Global Times". You will get the real picture.We like to work hard in silence,we will continue to do so.
India is demo-crazy china is a meritocracy that is why India is poor and BACKWARD get real still living in colonial days of the British empire
@@cheeahhui2117 Well congratulations for being rich but be causious, don't be over complasant।।।
43:19 You nailed it Sir!
46:47 A great summary.
We should be thankful to USSR -Russia for helping right from 1947 to build Dams,Industries ,Nuclear,Arms all kind of help. Did any other country helped india , answer would be No except Canada who helped in getting heavy water for Nuclear plant. And still we are expecting Russia to keep helping like kid . Clearly we cant be called super power if we dont make ourselves self reliant.
The hurdles in being self reliant is poor military industrial complex. And there is a need to fix the system. The laws I propose to make India self reliant are Right to Recall aka vote vapsi laws
Jury system like USA etc
Empty land tax
Direct deposit of mineral royalty to citizen and military
And cancelling FDI, mauritius treaty, WTO agreement to name a few.
It's not help dude.. We payed them.. Its business
@Jiang Dashan listen kid. Unlike the US, the USSR did not force us to become a puppet. And did not teach us to become a communist state. We signed a defense agreement and they came to our aid. Anti Russian bots like you can ignore all about it but can't ignore the fact that we are close friends like we are with Israel
How can a counttry with 900 million People living in poverty and relaing on others tech not be a 3rd world country. As always indian media is disconnected from reality.
The figure is actually 6% or ~70 million people; 900 million is 3/4 of our population???
India is not a third world nation but far from a global super power.
In these days of real politics, the foreign policy and relations among nations are governed by ground realities and self interests. And India has learnt this art over the time, leaving aside the idealistic approach. But, it is also a hard fact that Russia (USSR) has remained our friend for a long time and helped us in economic, technological, defense sector and also in our hour of need in a big way. No other country, including those who blow the begul of democracy, has come for our help in our hour of need. Therefore, our endeavor should be to further the close relations between the two countries.
Russia has helped us but will not always help. Its always about self interests. US is looting India unlike it looted middle east. US is looting and simultaneously breaking India by FDI, Mauritius treaty etc. Real power comes through weapons. So as long as India is dependent for critical weapons India can never become developed. Self Reliance in true sense is complex weapons made by India on its own.
Though it is safe and good for India if India depends on Russia. As Russia does not have huge MNC to capture India. So it has less self interests as compared to USA.
@@yashpalchaudhary9752 good point..india now working in defence sector
What do u mean by global power when u need Russian tech to manufacture a common rifle? The vast majority of Indians r more worried about finding their next meals than superpower ambitions. Russians will say big things about India vis a vis Putin's visit.
Who told u that Indians worried about next meal stop stereotypes about india extreme poverty is less than 5 percent which u talking about and every so called developed country has some percentage of that poverty ok yes we are lacking in defense manufacturing in some field coz our previous cockless congress govt or leftist slaves but otherways we have our own icbms neval ships submarines fighter jets now and space mission on of the west agencies or india have their own rifle manufacturers but they are new so this deal happens in the technology medicine engineering india beats top developed country but huge population have its side effect as well as profit and India is third largest economy of 10 trillion usd in actual term called ppp ok if u want some other reason then contact me I will solve your doubts. And what Russia has to be superpower its always overestimated its gdp won't allow Russia to fight a few day war still u think they are superpower and is China has all defense equipment no but spoiled mind never think beyond their stereotypes
@@Real_Hindu-05 India is still dependent on other developed countries. Core and complex wepaons are still not made by India and made by Indians and no technology transfer takes place even when a foreign company sets up a plant in India. We never get to read MOU and End user monitoring system. We cannot fly our complex fighter jet without permission of owner and moreover imported weapons have kill switches which are controlled by manufacturer.
India is making super computers do you really think India can't manufacture a rifle.
@@sumitchandra7401 Conversion is due to FDI allowed by all govt. US Military, Church and MNC are right now the most powerful group in the world, wonder why govt not taking any action against missionaries, due to FDI and pressure of MNC lobby.
your comment is simple but factual 👍👍👍
India a global power? What a joke. India does not even have sufficient electrical power to provide its citizens with. Many areas in India still do not have electricity! There are power cuts and an energy crisis in India! What global power are you talking about?🤣😂🤣😅🤣😂
A pakistani totha or congi chamcha
India a super power.....Don't Joke...
Nothing is signal. China is himself capable of any threat. all the things are signal for India.
Russia must accept India's rise as a global power, no longer a 3rd world nation. . .
I couldn't help but want to laugh. This sentence can be said to be very Indian, and it makes people feel a kind of Indian-style inexplicable self-confidence.
On the contrary, China has always emphasized that it is a third world country. The Chinese government has positioned China and the United States as the largest developing countries and
the largest developed countries. However, the United States and the Western world are increasingly disapproving of China’s self-positioning statement. In recent years, the United States has repeatedly questioned China’s status as a developing country in the WTO, and has repeatedly accused China of “already an economically large and powerful country, but it is considered a
developing country by the WTO.
From this, you can see the biggest difference between India and China. Indians are good at talking big and empty words, and Chinese are better at doing everything in obscurity.
On December 1, 32 countries cancelled the GSP treatment for trade with China, and China will no longer enjoy the preferential treatment of GSP tariffs from these countries. At the same time, starting from December 1 this year, the Chinese customs authorities will no longer issue generalized preferential systems and certificates of origin for goods shipped to different EU member states.
The United Nations Conference on Trade and Development passed a resolution on the establishment of a Generalized System of Preferences in 1968 to promote the export trade of developing countries and promote their economic growth. At present, all developing countries in the third world benefit from the EU's Generalized System of Preferences. From 2012 to 2019, Ukraine, Canada, Switzerland, Liechtenstein, the European Union, Turkey, Japan, etc. have successively cancelled the preferential treatment of GSP tariffs granted to Chinese exports. In 2021, the Eurasian Economic Union announced the abolition of preferential tariff treatment for China's Generalized System of Preferences.
This has shown that developed countries have begun to declare in concrete actions that they do not recognize China as a developing country, and therefore, China cannot enjoy the preferential treatment of GSP tariffs.
well said! just like in bollywood movies how the hero fight a few hundreds single handedly. the indian audiences love that knowing that it is impossible
Wonderful video, finally I found something good by journalists. The Print is doing a great Job.
People till this date shit on the streets. Till this date go hungry to sleep. Till this date roam jobless. Till this date die in hospitals due to negligence/lack of facility. Horrible rate of primary education and research opportunities. Pollution off the charts. Religious/caste hate and segregation are rampant. Every democratic institution compromised to the roots. Dying is often better than getting justice here.
Do I need to go on about how much of a 3rd world country we are NOT.
That shit is funny tho when is India going to be a global power
What signal to China.Russia is the strongest ally of China. Recently the tie between Russia and China is at its heights due to Ukraine issue, where USA and NATO took an adverse stand against Russia which delights China already in tug with USA and NATO.
Exactly
Exactly the discourse is terrible in India
But China does not recognize Crimea as part of Russia.
Telling others your not 3rd world nation, isn’t going make India not 3rd world…lol
@Zafar Allam don’t need high IQ to see poverty
Russia needs chinese economy and india needs Russian weaponry support, what's the deal here?
Why Indian peoples and media commentators are so sensitive and over excited over Putin visiting yr country. Take it easy and don’t ever show off this visit by competing with China. As I mentioned many times before if India want to hv a very peaceful settlement than is better to build a very close and steady relationship with China. Anyway India and the rest of the world will hv along way to catch up with China modernization development.
I wish you would allow the participants to talk instead of interrupting what they are saying. This is not a TV program and you are not constrained by time limitations. I would request you to go through the program and see for yourself how disrespectful you were of the ambassador.
Russia has a major hydrocarbon agreement with China. The hydrocarbon agreement with india is not important to Russia but in absence of alternatives, crucial to india.
India is a arms customer to Russia but do not expect anything more today.
For the US india is important to control Chinese hegemony but the anglo pact is more important.
Don't forget russia with china only for a usa, Russians don't love china or usa
@@LFCtushar money talks. Now Putin has bargained with Europe for gas supplies since the hi-tech pipeline with china securitised his income. India must seek hydrocarbon security and patch up relationship with oil majors, let me say vaguely. Sea is the cheapest mode and we need to rework perhaps with the GCC on a PTA/FTA, permit me to say.
World Hunger Index 101, a global power?
Neither Russia nor India can
break the inseparable bond
between the people of Russia
and India.
Jyoti : why look so disgruntled, gossip nayser from Lutyens delhi.....!!
Interruptions from the host need to be taken down a notch. The guests were very well informed.
The moderator has a problem, she keeps interrupting guests on her programs. Noticed it many many times in the last 2 years.
Being one of the poorest countries in the world and lowest in hunger index in South Asia, India should curtail its ambitions.
India is powerful …and in every country there are poor homeless people that’s not new…go and see in usa these are many of them
@@PremPatel-yw7td gandoosthan gandooram bongiyan maar raha hain
@@MegaBaddog dikha di apne religion ki auakat ki kya sikhata h tumko…god bless you
@@PremPatel-yw7td dont drink animal shit and beg for jobs in dubai, i will show you your 1000 year old ghulaami. ha-ram khor OBC veshyaputra
Those who are pointing out that India is a 3rd world country needs a clarification.
Yes, we are! SO?
Everyone who is saying India a superpower is stupid. We are China of 2006-10 as of now. But if we play our cards right, in 10-15 years we will be China of 2021 which everybody considers a superpower.
So, we need co-operation right now not dictation that's it.
INDIA WILL REMAIN INDIA !!!
Millions of Indians hardly dress themselves and you want to be called first country eh 🤣
In that sense, your tailor/fashion designer is the reason that your country can be called 1st world country . Then we Indians are proud being 3rd world country.
Big applause to the tailors out there, helping your country!!!
You guys took o ur clothes previously. to make yourself First world. 3 trillion or more you stole from here. and your museums filled with Indian artifacts. so who is a thief and third world?
Jyothi interrupted only one side..
Brilliant discussion. I usually don't listen to The Print but this was very informative. I also like what ambassador Mukherji said, that international relations is about applying your laws to your own jurisdiction and not to a 3rd country.
As a russian citizen i want to note that russian de facto alliance with China is only meant to contain usa, and not just in the pacific region, if you are wondering i cant recall russian media praising chinese actions against India or condeming indian actions even once. I noticed that alot of indians see every russian-chinese/paki "treaty" as a hostile action towards India but i can assure you even russian visits to Pakistan are mainly meant to distant them from america and make them work with Russia instead (just like it was with Turkey), no one in Russia view such a actions as 'anti-indian"
No worriers , it's simple fact that Russia needs to be allined with China to keep it's economy on track and India needs to be allined with US to keep it's economy on track .As a Indian I must say there is a soft corner for Russia in every Indian citizen's heart and that space would never will be given to US
I was waiting to hear the list/ pattern of selfishness of the US towards India but madam interrupted. Very distressing to me.
i suspect she is on US's payroll
We are a 3rd world country or not depends on our standard of living, after seeing a few other countries better than us... We are a 3rd world country. If you have not travelled, you would not know.
lol even switzerland is also a third world country.
Give up this mentality of self degrading.
What was China's living standards 3 decades back ?
Living standard of India is has improved exponentially compared to where we were and we are set to rise steadily.
A country is what is perceived as
Not what it actually is.
Thats because of low esteemed behavior of indians towards own indians
@@classoppressorbourgeoisie8416 The prosperity in India is superficial and is due to FDI only. Just like Dubai.
u r right
Is it only me or someone else also felt that she is hostile towards ambassador. Dismissive and disrespectful.
i feel the same as you do.
Jyoti, you are such an amazing moderator! Love your attention to detail, willingness to push back and challenge speakers and fluency with multinational issues.
India is a great spender and buyer of weapons down to winter uniform and rifles, of course India is a great superpower or superbuyer.
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Is this an episode of the print "uninterrupted"?
Jyoti sadly missed what these two experts were trying to say: India and Russia need to broaden their relationship, focusing on trade. She needs to stop interrupting the speakers when she becomes confused and loses the plot. She's a nostalgic journalist who still has romantic ideas about Russia. Thank you Dmitri Trenin for giving our dear Jyoti a gentle dose of reality on how Russians really perceive Indians. Keep up, dear Jyoti. Please.
Dmitri Trenin - great speaker. His last point about the potential for greater Russia-India private sector dealings may be hampered by potential sanctions on Indian companies that engage with Russia, such is the nature of US extra-territorial sanctions laws.
Am a fan of Jyoti Malhotra. She is astute, sensible, graceful, classy. I love the work of The Print! It Assumes viewer intelligence. Amazing!
Thanks!
Thank you Saurabh!
JYOTI AUNTY, BEECH MEIN MAT BOLA KARO 🙏 PLEASE
Let people speak.
India should stop flirting with Russia and USA at the same time. India is not sure of itself. Indian policies are childish. Russia does not need one billion $ from India. 😀😀😀😀😀😀😀
Indians at a very low per capita income in world, worse road and health care. So we are now also third world.
Thanks
Thank you Amit!
Excellent discussion.... lot to know, and very clear perspective.....
Vladimir Putin is a hero, he's a patriotic strong leader, if not for him Russia would have gone to the dogs.
But will Russia get another leader like him after he goes... is a million dollar question.
The strength & stability of Russia and it's long term relationships with other countries depends entirely on that.
I 💘 Putin: great leader great leader.
We must have more of Dimitri Trenin - his analysis are spot on and well researched.
26:10 Is something very interesting. Too bad he got interrupted. The print should make a video on the same topic.
Excellent Discussion and Insights.
Subbed!! Insightful and very well captured!
Is not a signal to no one we develop relations with every country that wants relations with us.
Good discussion
For Putin his own political survival is top priority and his biggest problem. In this situation his usefulness to India is next to zero
Yes? Next to zero? What an expert! Lol
@@lindamvungi8557 until india is 4th in strongest militaries of the world, or india has a 6 trillion dollar gdp(atleast) Russia's usefulness to india is unthinkable
@@phanboichau8498 What a mentality, so once you get what you need from the Russians.....then they are useless? Goodluck
In countering China Russia's usefulness is next to zero. Of course its useful to buy some commodities, and some military equipment from them. Look at Russia's economic indicators - its behind tiny South Korea. Its basically a commodity exporter - like a third world country. It takes advantage of its nuisance value of having a large quantity of nuclear weapons
India has still s lot to do before its rise can be comparable to the first world or formerly the tiger economies.
Agree! Agree, India is a world power, but d fact remain , India’s still poor.
No, it’s a signal for India. Putin came to India to say don’t run after America!
I really don't want any more arms deal with Russia.
I am very happy. This discussion was a major eye opener. A wow from myself
Shouldn't we as Indians atleast call it the Indo Tibetan Border rather than using the CCP's words .
Good information by the two gentlemen but Jyothi madam,old habits die hard,please don't interrupt.
Good show mam........
Russia is one power that India can rely on at any time. India should get more muscular economically, strategically and help our ally when needed. Currently, it looks like India is dependent on Russia and not contributing much to the partnership.
India is much dependent on US now.
@@yashpalchaudhary9752 Not much with respect to defense.
@@gpardhu India is dependent on US for softwares, complex spare parts and other technical things. We are also dependent on Russia but it is more dangerous to be more dependent on US.
I hope that even as India rises economically, it will continue to hold the label of a third world country as a badge of honor.
India depends almost over 70% of her military weapons on RUSSIA. If India is too close to the QUAD, Russia will just stop selling ammunition’s to India
We have been called the weak link to the QUAD. Plus Russia sold us S400.
@@shayaldwarka7907 India cannot be ally to US if she depends on Russia for military.
Brilliant brilliant brilliant discussion 😊 absolutely fascinating. Ambassador Mukherjee is so amazing in his views
India is a third world country still. It has more poor people than whole Africa combined. Unless there is an improvement in all the areas, you will always be a third or fourth rated country.
Jyoti you seem to be slightly tilted towards US
Good one! Very nicely moderated
Where's the link to the articles mentioned during the interview? The ambassador referred to the interview, Dr Trenin's article, etc
#theprint 👍 #journalism 👍 #jyotimalhotra mam 🙏
I'm originally Turkish I like to watch ThePrint mainly for their brilliant geopolitical analyses. My advice to Indians: stop copying America, I used to give this advice to an Indian friend in uni, who always used to talk about things in India mirrored from the US, like IIT (mirrored from MIT), India's Silicon Valley! why on earth you'd need an exact name copied from America? if you want tech, just do it in your own original way, after all isn't innovation about being "innovative" and creating something "new" that no one yet has created? I've seen this mentality generally with Indian folks, I also see this in Indian movies. Folks, you need to be original, look into your history and culture and get inspirations from your own culture rather than copying Americans. Btw, I suggest buying weapons from Turkey, Turks honor their words. I know you hate Pakistan, but you shouldn't, Pakistanis are ethically same people as you - well mostly at least, you should resolve territorial issues with them and be friends and allies rather than enemies.
Agree with your first half, but second half is too devoid of reality. Might have been true during Ottoman’s rule, not anymore.
On a lighter note, should India buy S400 secondhand from Turkey 🙂
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I would throw in trade and become partners in you region. A problem with China should not stop you from cooperation and trade to your benefits. And China is a lot closer than America. And unlikely to do the malicious nonsense that the US and West do to all non white countries. India may have been a colonial possession of the British Empire. But never an equal or even human in the eyes of the Western ruling Elites. And while my name may look white western. I was born in S. Korea, and was adopted from there. My past 10 years and bit more. Have been spent learning about the real histories. And not what the US calls history. And I have come to the conclusion. That the US and West are not to be trusted. And are a open constant threat to non western World. And a preimminent threat to a Future of a livable planet.
India never hates pakistan India hate only 26/11 attackers Mumbai blasts attackers Delhi blast attacker freely walking on the road of Pakistan India never got justice from the courts who has attacked in India with real footage on RUclips India want trade deal with your close friend but he has blocked it India never threatening to any country over nuclear missiles but your close friend threatening every day to attack with nuclear missiles to India
India never hates pakistan India hate only 26/11 attackers Mumbai blasts attackers Delhi blast attacker freely walking on the road of Pakistan India never got justice from the courts who has attacked in India with real footage on RUclips India want trade deal with your close friend but he has blocked it India never threatening to any country over nuclear missiles but your close friend threatening every day to attack with nuclear missiles to India
Ms. Jyothi wasn’t giving enough opportunity to Mr. Mukerjee. Nevertheless, Mr.Trinin explaining Russians view and diplomatic and business upgrades was interesting.
Interesting, or far fetched?
Very interesting to see Mr. Mukherjee who is an old school strategic expert trying to encourage INDIA- RUSSIA relationship despite recent cracks in the relationship.
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Putin advise to Modi, want to be a first world country, you must buy a lot of Russian arms. And I mean a lot. Just sign on the dotted line. 🤣
Policy of Modi government has really changed the game, I am saying this even acknowledging all the good work done by previous governments. You need to know how to encash your property that has been built through all these years.
Jyoti and Mr mukherji look so immature compared to Mr Trenin. India is so happy with the name "INDO PACIFIC". BY giving this name USA only wants to use India against China.
The reason why the realations with Russia Vs relations with the US is India's close connections in business. Microsoft,Google etc don't care who the President is in Washington and business connections is flourishing. This cannot be said about Russia. In short, no Government intervention is required
India US trade is supported by an Indian diaspora of 4 million, a Private sector relationship based on business only and Govt to Govt relationship. In short a natural bond. With Russia it is purely defense and only Govt to Govt