I'm a fan of Roglic, so don't get me wrong, but when he didn't crash yesterday I felt like there was something wrong. Today with his crash he restored the balance in the universe, so I can be at peace again.
The EF mechanic who made the bike change for Piccolo deserves a podium. It was so smooth. I don't think he stopped moving while swapping bikes and giving him a push start.
Please remember these videos are titled the way they are for clicks (which is totally fine). All the big teams had agreed to take it slow before the stage. UAE and Remco also told the peloton to calm down. Of course, Jumbo did it at an opportune moment for them, but it was also something that had been agreed on beforehand between teams. The other teams could have decided to ignore Jumbo and kept going. It's not like Jumbo blocked them, they just called for calm. The conditions were treacherous today, we saw that with the amount of crashes... and that is with the peloton taking it slow. If they had all gone full out, it would have been absolute carnage.
Another thing to add is that Jonas has been talking to Enric Mas about neutralizing the stage before the stage already, and been pretty vocal about the bad conditions, so it's not like Jumbo and Jonas decided to do this out of nowhere
Afaik this is true. LR needs to better balance reporting and self-promotional aspect of the podcast presentation. Some of the wildly hyperbolic titles are funny. This one wasn’t hyperbolic enough to be among that set.
They will do indoor time rides on stationary bikes to decide the GC, followed by stages for those who want to go for stage wins and bonus seconds. Everyone else will be allowed to follow in the team bus as long as they take their bike with them to the finish town.
We want to see these races decided by the best against the best. Sick of seeing GC guys, or any rider, injured early in GTs cuz of stupid organizer decisions.
@@GelDouche12They almost never do this kind of city parcours, for good reasons: It's no fun for the racers and it's not good racing for the fans. But I understand you have no clue about racing and probably never organised one like I do every year. You're always welcome to clean up the road (stones in curves) before the race over here. But you don't care, as long as you are entertained sitting on your couch.
I'm going up to Arinsal via Envalira +Ordino now. Can you do something about the weather? 🥶 On second thought: good excuse if I don't do well on your segment...
Funny how no one corrected the assumptions here ; Jonas and Remco tried to slow down the peloton because of the nails maliciously placed on the road, they were just trying to avoid mass crashes
It's very simple: if the GC teams don't want to take any risks then Jumbo, Quickstep, Ineos and UAE should form their own slow peloton but shouldn't discourage Movistar and DSM riders to go for the stage win and red jersey. It's actually quite inconsiderate and arrogant of those powerful teams to think they have any right to control smaller teams who basically only have these sort of chances by taking more risks.
Yes, they swap tyres. Remco talks about it in his interview with Lanterne Rouge. However, even the gripiest tyres don’t stand a chance against the all mighty white line at 50k/hr in the rain with leaves.
@@biscaynediver it wasnt their fault the UAE rider fell what do you expect him to do, dodge the bike in a fraction of a second? See the context in which they fell before making such statements.
@@Queen-be6md You haven't raced have you? Good bike handlers ANTICIPATE and position. Roglic was pinching down a guy trying to take a wet roundabout on the tightest apex and very obviously being pushed on the painted line -- which good riders anticipate and get the hell away from. Notice that Thomas, to the right of Roglic, anticipates this and starts to move out -- he saw it coming. Unfortunately for him, he just couldn't get far enough out. Go back and look at Roglic's crashes. Many of them are due to poor positioning and completely cluelessness in reading the road and ANTICIPATING. He's never braced, he's always late to the brakes, always late to react. Note the good commentary by Lanterne Rouge pointing out how dumb it is for G to ride anywhere near Roglic - the implication being you know the guy's a poor bike handler, has zero anticipation and race reading skills, and is going to get caught up in crashes ... and if you're next to him, he's probably taking you down too, so stay the hell away. If you'd actually raced, you'd know part of success in avoiding crashes over time is reading the other riders in the peloton and knowing who the hell to stay away from.
Stage hunting teams need to stop considering what GC teams want. Sure, nothing wrong with asking everyone to calm down, and if the chasing teams were supremely confident they would catch the break anyway, they can do the other teams the courtesy of waiting. But if they were chasing, which means they thought that was the best thing for them to do. It is not like sprint teams move up in front in the beginning of a massive mountain and tell everyone to calm down, and block the road, because they want the climb to be slow so their sprinter can save energy.
Agreed, it's not that wheb a sprinter crashes on a Mountain stage the peloton Waits, so It should be the same, this said conditions were Dangerous, but we've seen this done even on good weather stages
not fair that the big stars and the powerful teams desides if we should wait or not. A crash craeted by a riders mistake is part of the game. There what atleast one sprinter in the bunch who had a goal about this stage win this entire year
It's an athletic competition. If your team isn't more powerful than all the others, you're on the wrong team. *Everyone* wants to win; this is, of course, not feasible.
G said proper pissed stupid garbage organisation. Start an hour earlier min. Teams rode dark no lights, Professionals, back to the bus post stage. That’s before last couple teams rode wheel to wheel in almost complete low road level dark stage against clock . Crazy opener.
Crazy stage and interesting to watch how the difference of interest played out. Of course the GC favoriutes wanted speed to come down, but on the other hand you gotta respect those teams who don´t have a GC rider and for whom a stage win or the red jersey may be critical for the entire season. If the peloton had been grouped together it would have been more simple to make joint decisions, but with a breakaway Jumbo and Co can´t tell the other teams what to do. When the steep mountain stages come and Jonas and the others disintegrate the weaker teams THEY don´t get any favours or the chance to slow down the tempo :)
What j..... are all commenting the fall of Rogla. He just have all the bad luck in the world. Today taken down, Giro the same,last year the same... I dont see nobody talking Thomas on the deck, Bernal 10times on the deck in last 2 seasons, etc... pure envy!
Protestors poured oil and nails on the streets to stop the race, that’s why today was so chaotic, and the rain, like to all the people saying ‘get better at bike handling’ probably don’t know what it’s like to do 80k/h+ on a wet decent, like when you are doing that speed with bad conditions on the road probably bike handling doesn’t matter anymore fr, specially after Gino’s passing nobody would want to risk that much. If you want someone to risk their life in a dangerous road, go and do it yourself
How can it be that La Vuelta, a grand freakin' tour, can't get their on-screen tv graphics in order? I love the Vuelta, I always watch it, but I can't remember a year where they were on top of the tv graphics game. It kills a large part of the race enjoyment for me. Taxes, death and La Vuelta on-screen graphics... as they say.
Yeah I don't get it either ha ha. He must do pavement jobs between cycling seasons. But here it seems the guy in front of him crashed and it was impossible for him to avoid him.
Ok for the night issue, but it seems the peloton discovers rain... That's ridiculous. They will soon ask cancellation because of the opposite wind. Who they think they are to ask to slow down? Cycling is going in the wrong direction.
I get what happened on Saturday and it was a horribpe look for the sport but yesterday seemed a bit farcical blocking DSM and neutralising for convenience. If I was DSM Id be very very frustrated with how yeaterday played out. Equally just the entire finish was ridiculous with no clarity over what was happening
Never understood neutralising a race in cycling because someone crashed. In any other sport, if you crash it's your problem. If someone takes you out - unfortunate but still your problem. Same with mechanicals.
The threat is declaring yourself persona non grata to the peloton and ensure yourself a bad time. Most of the guys are spending the day riding comfortably in the peloton and not going full gas. If you defy the leaders, the teams can raise the pace so high, everyone is pushing hard, and they'll make it clear who's to blame. This is similar to when a break tries to form, and some days they'll be going hard for two hours until everyone is either happy with the break composition or too tired to object. That's two hours of hard riding that didn't have to be that way. There are other reasons to neutralize: my favorite was a Giro stage in 2006(?) that stopped in a tunnel for fifteen minutes because it started to snow. Everyone got geared up and warmed up and then the race resumed.
Bike's to be left at the start tomorrow and clown cars having sponsors logo's painted on overnight the organisers have turned this into Vuelta a Circo.
The TV production was poor lots of high helicopter shots where you could not see who's who in the zoo. Ant Mcrossan missing from the commentary and his lady assistant struggling valiantly on her own with not much help from the Spanish TV feed
Vingegaar should be DQ'd, he is free to stop if he wants but what he is doing is forcing others to do what benefits his team which is stronger and has lots of stages to win La Vuelta. What would Jumbo do if a bad descender would stop a race before a dowhill? Or a TT racer stopping every stage except the TT ?
So this is the 77th edition and this is how a team with multiple editions under their belts start what had been laid out as potentially the greatest Veulta ever. Instead starts with the biggest cluster *"'* ever. The course was too tight of turns to have a proper TTT,then they wait all day and JV left the start ramp at 8:20 local time without construction generator light trailers and only following car headlights. Then i notice the barriers where they had the finish, those were shit tastic PVC sandwich board style. Again ZERO regards for rider safety. These are similar to the ones that collapsed and almost killed Fabio Jacobson. 🤔. How am i supposed to support anything the UCI useless Cycling Infrastructure does. Sock heaght police have switched to bar width police and yet any significant safety concerns seem to fall on rars of greed not of common sense.😡🤬 Compete sham of a start to such a beautiful race with the altime greatest lineup. 🤞Wr don't lose a buch more riders to bad decisions.
I thought hydro disc brakes add traction though? Looks like they add too much friction to the tires in wet conditions and slide out crashes are WAY more common now.
Utter crap DR and you know it… Too much friction would equal locking wheels and that’s not what we see, I think it’s more a lack of surface tyre temperature, it might even be related to wheels being stiffer which gives less of a suspension effect. I descended the Hautacam yesterday in very wet conditions and never for even a second did I think to myself “I wish I had rim brakes”
It’s ridiculous that grand tour winners think they have the right to neutralize the peloton because their teammate was involved in a crash. If they think this is justified, then the peloton should be neutralized for every single crash which is absolute nonsense. It’s a part of bike racing. These guys are pros. Get over it and don’t inhibit the racing of other just because your teammate got unlucky and you think you can bully everyone because you “won the Tour de France.”
It's not prestige, it's strength. You can do whatever, but if you try to get to the break, for example, their TEAM is stronger than YOU, and they WILL run you down. Even if you get away, your teammates have to follow at that pace or get dropped, and they'll make you know how painful it was. There is no single dominant team these days, hence no Patron. But the top teams can agree to act like One. On most days, the guys are just trying to get through the stage and conserve energy for when it's their go-time. If the peloton is moving at 35 kph, it's like a warm afternoon at the office.
May as well just start holding the Grand Tours on Zwift if every time a GC favorite crashes people want neutralization, or downhill finishes removed...
Vingegaard DEMANDS, eh? Well, F him. He ought to spend less time trying to demand and bully other teams with other priorities, and more time in training camp with Roglic teaching him how to stay upright.
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Great work fellas! Another hat ordered!!!!
Petition to get bonus seconds for the first to pass Lanterns house
it was supposed to be the 1K to finish mark.
You just want to find out where he lives so you can stalk him. You cheeky bastard 😄
Yeah !! Hahaha 😂
Do I get the seconds? Roughly 4 hours before the pros
@@ForeverDayGreenall those aerial shots circling the chateaus around France during the Tour, LR's already told us where all his pads are!!
I'm a fan of Roglic, so don't get me wrong, but when he didn't crash yesterday I felt like there was something wrong. Today with his crash he restored the balance in the universe, so I can be at peace again.
lolll
Facts my man, facts😂😂😂
Same with Geraint Thomas and they bots go down together.
Lmaoooooo
I hope el patron will save him 🙏
Roglic crashed, two words with an ever more special bond
The EF mechanic who made the bike change for Piccolo deserves a podium. It was so smooth. I don't think he stopped moving while swapping bikes and giving him a push start.
Yes, that had shades of Pidcocks mountain bike change.
@@RickJames-j6j Cant change mountain bikes in XC races 🤓😎
Criterium then@@TomFord17
*cyclocross bike change then 😂
Insert GIF, it's not road cycling after all! ;) @@yakoudbz
Roglic and G, by far the most 'down to earth' guys in the peloton.
In love with gravity.
Roglic trying to take off this title from Thomas, but Thomas responded instantly.
@@nem3thHilarious my man, I’m a big fan of G… but you are spot on!
Please remember these videos are titled the way they are for clicks (which is totally fine). All the big teams had agreed to take it slow before the stage. UAE and Remco also told the peloton to calm down. Of course, Jumbo did it at an opportune moment for them, but it was also something that had been agreed on beforehand between teams. The other teams could have decided to ignore Jumbo and kept going. It's not like Jumbo blocked them, they just called for calm.
The conditions were treacherous today, we saw that with the amount of crashes... and that is with the peloton taking it slow. If they had all gone full out, it would have been absolute carnage.
Thanks for this added detail - makes perfect sense.
Another thing to add is that Jonas has been talking to Enric Mas about neutralizing the stage before the stage already, and been pretty vocal about the bad conditions, so it's not like Jumbo and Jonas decided to do this out of nowhere
Afaik this is true. LR needs to better balance reporting and self-promotional aspect of the podcast presentation. Some of the wildly hyperbolic titles are funny. This one wasn’t hyperbolic enough to be among that set.
It’s fine because you’re fine with it. In reality, it’s not fine, it’s shit.
Carnage is what I signed up for
Roglic will win this Vuelta, he clocked his fall early this year and is pretty unscathed.
He usually crashes more than once though 😂
That save tho 2:01
Gerraint Thomas and crashing are the most consistent grand tour combination
And Roglic and today they did it together for the fans.
You misspelled Roglic 😅
@@norbertgarbe4585you haven’t been watching long if you don’t think G taught Roglic everything he knows about the cement slide
The sun rises and the sun sets
Roglic crashes and the rain is wet
Surely the Vuelta cant get worse from here.
They’ll be soon whinging it’s too hot . Next week . Cant they ride in the wet these days.
you just had to say it didn't ya.
They will do indoor time rides on stationary bikes to decide the GC, followed by stages for those who want to go for stage wins and bonus seconds. Everyone else will be allowed to follow in the team bus as long as they take their bike with them to the finish town.
Lol that's what we said about the Giro this year as well 🙃
Maybe trikes tomorrow? 😮😂
Great work. The highlight programme on Quest missed all of this action.
Yep - great summary - thats why I'm here
🙃It has been an….interesting…start to La Vuelta.
great synopsis and breakdown of Roglic crash.
the final straight needed a gardener. imagine a full gas sprint on that surface.
This reminds of the 2010 tour when Andy Schlek went down. The Spartan was on the front trying to neutralise the stage.
Cassette Sound-Check: when it rains it pawls!
I do believe they asked to slow down because of the conditions, not because Roglic went down.
Remco was complaining since yesterday about that
We want to see these races decided by the best against the best. Sick of seeing GC guys, or any rider, injured early in GTs cuz of stupid organizer decisions.
As a GT organiser I love deciding that it will rain
True! Technical course are one thing, but I personally draw the line when the organizers rain on the course. That's taking it too far!
@@GelDouche12 deciding on a city parcours with all kinds of road furniture, roundabouts, curves with oil on the road...
@l.d.t.6327 yeah they should've done Zwift dude
@@GelDouche12They almost never do this kind of city parcours, for good reasons: It's no fun for the racers and it's not good racing for the fans. But I understand you have no clue about racing and probably never organised one like I do every year. You're always welcome to clean up the road (stones in curves) before the race over here. But you don't care, as long as you are entertained sitting on your couch.
3:40 like a boss(they just stops up
I'm going up to Arinsal via Envalira +Ordino now. Can you do something about the weather? 🥶 On second thought: good excuse if I don't do well on your segment...
good for EF...leaders jersey. Hope the weather improves!
Awesome ride by Kron. Good to see he was dedicating his victory to TD Decker. He will get more opportunities to dedicate his next victory to his mom!
I love Roglic but my god he spends a lot of time on the ground.
I only respect one El Patron, his name is Juanpe.
2:02 insane control
What was the result of the intermediate sprint , or was there any? Where can I find this. Thanks
Funny how no one corrected the assumptions here ; Jonas and Remco tried to slow down the peloton because of the nails maliciously placed on the road, they were just trying to avoid mass crashes
What a interesting stage
Nice commentary. Subscribed.
Thanks again for the content
It's very simple: if the GC teams don't want to take any risks then Jumbo, Quickstep, Ineos and UAE should form their own slow peloton but shouldn't discourage Movistar and DSM riders to go for the stage win and red jersey. It's actually quite inconsiderate and arrogant of those powerful teams to think they have any right to control smaller teams who basically only have these sort of chances by taking more risks.
I absolutely agree with you. Who are they to tell the other teams to not fight for the stage or the jersey?
@@7081_HA group was allowed to go at the end and they took the chance.
Id say to Jonas, F you SpongeBob! I'm chasing
@@unrealkinoart no ur not lmao
@@AlanChiou0222 yes I am
Love Vuelta A Spain
Could the riders put wet weather tyres on their bikes to make it easier? or do they always use the fastest tyres?
Yes, they swap tyres. Remco talks about it in his interview with Lanterne Rouge. However, even the gripiest tyres don’t stand a chance against the all mighty white line at 50k/hr in the rain with leaves.
The Vuelta organisation is really failing hard this year i'm so disappointed after all that already has happened in terms of riders dying this year!
With respect I think cyclists being killed has nothing to do with vuelta organisation
What does the fact that Roglic and Thomas are utterly incompetent bike handlers have to do with the Vuelta organization?
@@biscaynediver it wasnt their fault the UAE rider fell what do you expect him to do, dodge the bike in a fraction of a second? See the context in which they fell before making such statements.
@@Queen-be6md You haven't raced have you? Good bike handlers ANTICIPATE and position. Roglic was pinching down a guy trying to take a wet roundabout on the tightest apex and very obviously being pushed on the painted line -- which good riders anticipate and get the hell away from. Notice that Thomas, to the right of Roglic, anticipates this and starts to move out -- he saw it coming. Unfortunately for him, he just couldn't get far enough out. Go back and look at Roglic's crashes. Many of them are due to poor positioning and completely cluelessness in reading the road and ANTICIPATING. He's never braced, he's always late to the brakes, always late to react. Note the good commentary by Lanterne Rouge pointing out how dumb it is for G to ride anywhere near Roglic - the implication being you know the guy's a poor bike handler, has zero anticipation and race reading skills, and is going to get caught up in crashes ... and if you're next to him, he's probably taking you down too, so stay the hell away. If you'd actually raced, you'd know part of success in avoiding crashes over time is reading the other riders in the peloton and knowing who the hell to stay away from.
Maybe you should switch to golf or ping pong if seeing someone falling of bike on a slippery road in Spain during a rain annoys you.
Stage hunting teams need to stop considering what GC teams want.
Sure, nothing wrong with asking everyone to calm down, and if the chasing teams were supremely confident they would catch the break anyway, they can do the other teams the courtesy of waiting.
But if they were chasing, which means they thought that was the best thing for them to do.
It is not like sprint teams move up in front in the beginning of a massive mountain and tell everyone to calm down, and block the road, because they want the climb to be slow so their sprinter can save energy.
Agreed, it's not that wheb a sprinter crashes on a Mountain stage the peloton Waits, so It should be the same, this said conditions were Dangerous, but we've seen this done even on good weather stages
I had Thomas and rogla on my Velo games team 😢
not fair that the big stars and the powerful teams desides if we should wait or not. A crash craeted by a riders mistake is part of the game. There what atleast one sprinter in the bunch who had a goal about this stage win this entire year
It's an athletic competition. If your team isn't more powerful than all the others, you're on the wrong team.
*Everyone* wants to win; this is, of course, not feasible.
Organisers should do a mass resignation and hand over to LR
G said proper pissed stupid garbage organisation. Start an hour earlier min. Teams rode dark no lights, Professionals, back to the bus post stage. That’s before last couple teams rode wheel to wheel in almost complete low road level dark stage against clock . Crazy opener.
My favourite comment from one of the commentators:
“Roglic could find a banana skin in the desert!” [to slip on]!
Crazy stage and interesting to watch how the difference of interest played out. Of course the GC favoriutes wanted speed to come down, but on the other hand you gotta respect those teams who don´t have a GC rider and for whom a stage win or the red jersey may be critical for the entire season. If the peloton had been grouped together it would have been more simple to make joint decisions, but with a breakaway Jumbo and Co can´t tell the other teams what to do. When the steep mountain stages come and Jonas and the others disintegrate the weaker teams THEY don´t get any favours or the chance to slow down the tempo :)
Exactly! GC teams think they own the race.
So much water, no one was even thinking of being Hydro-Dynamic?
- Name the most iconic duo in the world.
- Roglic and crash.
Thought that was Armstrong and Dope
What is the purple drink the riders have at the end of the stage?
sprite with lean
Beetroot juice.
can't they get proper tyres with some grip for wet roads?
it prolly wont fit in the fork tho.
What j..... are all commenting the fall of Rogla.
He just have all the bad luck in the world. Today taken down, Giro the same,last year the same...
I dont see nobody talking Thomas on the deck, Bernal 10times on the deck in last 2 seasons, etc... pure envy!
This is what I hate about road racing. Waiting, or stopping the race because someone fell, or had a mechanical is non-sense!! It is a RACE!!
Looks like the 9 km finish made things safer, but without the video, did it really happen?🤔
Protestors poured oil and nails on the streets to stop the race, that’s why today was so chaotic, and the rain, like to all the people saying ‘get better at bike handling’ probably don’t know what it’s like to do 80k/h+ on a wet decent, like when you are doing that speed with bad conditions on the road probably bike handling doesn’t matter anymore fr, specially after Gino’s passing nobody would want to risk that much. If you want someone to risk their life in a dangerous road, go and do it yourself
TY👍
Terbaik lah Primo
Yeah at crashing 😂
How can it be that La Vuelta, a grand freakin' tour, can't get their on-screen tv graphics in order? I love the Vuelta, I always watch it, but I can't remember a year where they were on top of the tv graphics game. It kills a large part of the race enjoyment for me. Taxes, death and La Vuelta on-screen graphics... as they say.
What is it with Roglic and crashes?? He may very well need basic bike handling training... to include risk avoidance.
Yeah I don't get it either ha ha. He must do pavement jobs between cycling seasons. But here it seems the guy in front of him crashed and it was impossible for him to avoid him.
Roglic and Geraint Thomas are great champions but dubious bike handlers - both have a too familiar relationship with the tarmac.
Alpecin making friends again
Ok for the night issue, but it seems the peloton discovers rain... That's ridiculous. They will soon ask cancellation because of the opposite wind. Who they think they are to ask to slow down? Cycling is going in the wrong direction.
After the best first week of any TdF, we probably get the worst of any Vuelta. ❤🤦😎
What does unipuerto mean exactly?
'Flat' stage ending with a typical Spanish steep hill or small mountain
Easy stage with a climb at the end, so little fatigue before it.
@@MDP1702 Thank you.
@@MeesterJ Thank you.
I get what happened on Saturday and it was a horribpe look for the sport but yesterday seemed a bit farcical blocking DSM and neutralising for convenience. If I was DSM Id be very very frustrated with how yeaterday played out. Equally just the entire finish was ridiculous with no clarity over what was happening
Juanpe is the capo di tutti capi
What is this green bike? 2:06
Perhaps rain tyres will be a solution 🤯🥳🤭
jonas tadej matthieu are the current triumvirate in pantheon of patrons
I think the organization needs to remember this is cycling, not bullfighting 😂
I love the bullfighting aspect of cycling
@@JaemanEdwards love a good injury
La Vuelta . . . so far: riders fighting positions AND physicians
Viva Doppppiiiinnnng, you Saw today.... The us Guy .... Wouah 💪💪💪💪💪💪💪🙃
Molano neutralising this Roglic move, might prove to be his most influencial domestique effort in this Vuelta. And that this early on!
PR is constantly on the pavement
Never understood neutralising a race in cycling because someone crashed. In any other sport, if you crash it's your problem. If someone takes you out - unfortunate but still your problem. Same with mechanicals.
The threat is declaring yourself persona non grata to the peloton and ensure yourself a bad time. Most of the guys are spending the day riding comfortably in the peloton and not going full gas. If you defy the leaders, the teams can raise the pace so high, everyone is pushing hard, and they'll make it clear who's to blame.
This is similar to when a break tries to form, and some days they'll be going hard for two hours until everyone is either happy with the break composition or too tired to object. That's two hours of hard riding that didn't have to be that way.
There are other reasons to neutralize: my favorite was a Giro stage in 2006(?) that stopped in a tunnel for fifteen minutes because it started to snow. Everyone got geared up and warmed up and then the race resumed.
@losbravoschanel8091 is riding the la vuelta's stages all by himself
If Roglic didn’t crash probably will be x5 times vuelta and Tour winner 😅
Roglic and Crashing, name a more iconic duo.
You and stolen comments
@@JaemanEdwards you must've been lacking of love from your mom
Bike's to be left at the start tomorrow and clown cars having sponsors logo's painted on overnight the organisers have turned this into Vuelta a Circo.
The TV production was poor lots of high helicopter shots where you could not see who's who in the zoo. Ant Mcrossan missing from the commentary and his lady assistant struggling valiantly on her own with not much help from the Spanish TV feed
Is tadej riding in la Vuelta?
No, he had a hard Tour de France and competed in the World Championship for both TT and road race. Guy needed a rest.
Vingegaar should be DQ'd, he is free to stop if he wants but what he is doing is forcing others to do what benefits his team which is stronger and has lots of stages to win La Vuelta. What would Jumbo do if a bad descender would stop a race before a dowhill? Or a TT racer stopping every stage except the TT ?
So this is the 77th edition and this is how a team with multiple editions under their belts start what had been laid out as potentially the greatest Veulta ever. Instead starts with the biggest cluster *"'* ever. The course was too tight of turns to have a proper TTT,then they wait all day and JV left the start ramp at 8:20 local time without construction generator light trailers and only following car headlights. Then i notice the barriers where they had the finish, those were shit tastic PVC sandwich board style.
Again ZERO regards for rider safety. These are similar to the ones that collapsed and almost killed Fabio Jacobson. 🤔. How am i supposed to support anything the UCI useless Cycling Infrastructure does. Sock heaght police have switched to bar width police and yet any significant safety concerns seem to fall on rars of greed not of common sense.😡🤬 Compete sham of a start to such a beautiful race with the altime greatest lineup. 🤞Wr don't lose a buch more riders to bad decisions.
Complaining isn't enough. Action is required.
This should not happen in any sport .
A race is a race .
DDDEEEEEMMMMMMAAANNNNDDDDSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEMANDS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! DEEMMMMAAAANNNNDDDDDSSSS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Who didn't crash today?
anybody who didn't ride today
death, taxes and Roglic crashing during Grand Tours
la vuelta should have been a ZWIFT event
When the weather is bad in Spain, it is often truly, biblically horrible.
I think the riders forgot to eat their apples. An apple a day keeps the doctor away
I thought hydro disc brakes add traction though? Looks like they add too much friction to the tires in wet conditions and slide out crashes are WAY more common now.
Would they ever revert back to normal brakes in such conditions ?
Utter crap DR and you know it…
Too much friction would equal locking wheels and that’s not what we see, I think it’s more a lack of surface tyre temperature, it might even be related to wheels being stiffer which gives less of a suspension effect.
I descended the Hautacam yesterday in very wet conditions and never for even a second did I think to myself “I wish I had rim brakes”
I love that the LRCP community collectively said "not today, Satan" when they saw your username and just completely ignored you.
@@JaemanEdwards ^^'revert back' Disc is nut funny. We don't appreciate such grammar crimes in the rim brakes community!
It’s ridiculous that grand tour winners think they have the right to neutralize the peloton because their teammate was involved in a crash. If they think this is justified, then the peloton should be neutralized for every single crash which is absolute nonsense. It’s a part of bike racing. These guys are pros. Get over it and don’t inhibit the racing of other just because your teammate got unlucky and you think you can bully everyone because you “won the Tour de France.”
It's not prestige, it's strength. You can do whatever, but if you try to get to the break, for example, their TEAM is stronger than YOU, and they WILL run you down. Even if you get away, your teammates have to follow at that pace or get dropped, and they'll make you know how painful it was.
There is no single dominant team these days, hence no Patron. But the top teams can agree to act like One.
On most days, the guys are just trying to get through the stage and conserve energy for when it's their go-time. If the peloton is moving at 35 kph, it's like a warm afternoon at the office.
These bikes are too small, ears 6-10" in front of the steering axis, geometries jacked, carbon wheels too light, etc. unsafe AF
chaos chaos
Good old dangerous, poorly planned Vuelta. I'll check back in after the second rest day and see who's still there.
Vuetla to beat the tour this year
DSM got stiffed by the organiser and the other teams here.
Ignoring milesis crash?
That's two cyclists who have passed in a year. What is going on in this sport...
May as well just start holding the Grand Tours on Zwift if every time a GC favorite crashes people want neutralization, or downhill finishes removed...
Baaaarcelohnaaar
Vingegaard DEMANDS, eh? Well, F him. He ought to spend less time trying to demand and bully other teams with other priorities, and more time in training camp with Roglic teaching him how to stay upright.
So cute that Jonas and Remco are trying to be the patron of the peloton when the one true god himself; Juanpe Lopez is in attendance
Waiting for the big crash in front your house.😂