Virginia school board approves a proposal to restore names of Confederate leaders
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- Опубликовано: 9 май 2024
- The school board in Shenandoah County, Virginia, approved a proposal that will restore the names of Confederate military leaders to two public schools. The measure, which passed 5-1, reverses a previous decision in 2020 to change the names of schools that had been linked to Stonewall Jackson, Robert E. Lee and Turner Ashby.
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Virginia school board approves a proposal to restore names of Confederate leaders
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Shouldn't the school board be spending their time more wisely like I don't know, investing in the students at this schools' curriculum instead of this garbage?
It was garbage removing names in first place
Did you have the same opinion when they voted to remove the names
I bet you felt differently when they were putting up rainbiw flags!
@@bobbobertson7568 No, what's garbage is tax payers dollars going to waste on stupid names of a bunch of losers who lost the civil war.
Ok now do the loser protests for weeks
These people are pathetic.
Like ur mom
Cry more
What will it take to get the racists to stop living in the past?
what makes this racist😂if this is racist then you like little choir boys, see how that works?
There is no answer I could give that wouldn't get me banned. There is only one cure for this.
@@PallasAthenian say it coward...c'mon you can do it.
Say it chicken 💩......
@@PallasAthenian if I'm thinking what you are than that would be sinking to their level of hatred and vengefulness.
I guess the same thing it would take to get li ber als to stop living in the past. How long ago was sl av ery?
Here's the truth behind this issue kids: these southern general names on schools and southern general statues (some of which have been removed) were not named/erected just after the civil war. They were put up at the time of the civil rights movement in our country. Your parents and grandparents were witness to this, they can tell you. It was done as a way to bully the black americans at the time, to give them fear as they fought for social justice and equality, a way to intimidate them for having the balls to speak up for themselves. It was and still is an affront to what our county was founded on: freedom. I graduated from a Robert E. Lee high school (the name has since been changed) and I always knew that the naming was on the wrong side of history. We should be building ourselves up and making a better future both for ourselves and those who come after us. Let the mistakes of the past die and live on only in the history books, we have bigger and more important problems to focus on now.
Well said
Can you imagine to outrage if Germany restored any buildings that celebrated Hitler and his associates? SMH.
They would be a lot better off if they did. They would not have most of the problems they have today.
That would be illegal in Germany.
You mean like you everyday saying Slava ukraine😂 and propping up SS battalions? More on
@kevinallies1014 the rantings of a fool
IRL they actually have. You should learn a little bit more about 1930's Germany.
This is what will keep this country divided.
It's already divided. what difference does it make?
If this school board wants to honor Virginians from the Civil War period, why not choose from many who served their country (the United States) with honor and fought to end slavery (Elizabeth Van Lew, Admiral David Farragut, General George Thomas, Winfield Scott, etc)? Why is there such an emphasis on honoring Confederates when there are numerous loyal and patriotic Americans from the Southern states that deserve the recognition instead?
That's a great idea.
Because Thomas and Farragut were traitors to Virginia. There is a very good reason why Thomas and Farragut were not involved in the major fighting in the East. Because the Virginians would have specifically targeted them.
My thoughts exactly 💯
Wait until you find out what your beloved Ulysses S. Grant did to the whole nation as President back in 1871. Research it, then come back and tell us how you feel.
Or what Sherman did to the Indians . Why is Sherman, whose “strategy” was to attack civilians, a hero again ?
The confederacy existed for less time than you've probably spent looking at hentai. What's that confederate constitution say again?
The Confederacy existed for less time than the annoying Orange-some RUclips video
The Confederate constitution was largely identical to the Union constitution at the time of drafting, though it gave the president a 6 year term and a line item veto, and gave states more power to propose amendments. It also explicitly supported slavery though it banned international slave trading, stances with which many southerners today still agree, so it is in the school board's character to act as it does in this video.
I'm glad the confederacy is gone.
We shouldn't honor it.
@malirk not gone bud. We still have democrats. Should of ended that party after the war. Their beliefs are still here. They still brand people as not white. People of color, LatinX, african american, etc. The whole tearing down the confederate soldiers names is just a way to hide their deeds to future generations.
@@noseraph it wasn't "union" it was United States of America.... which the confederacy hated and was against.... and then the confederacy got their a z z e s kicked royal
"You have an unnatural allegiance to losers and it’s not like you”
“Winners cannot let losers rewrite history.”
--Katt Williams, eminent Philosopher
Agreed glad this error is being corrected.
@@robertarthurs328 Here is history for you. They were named for confederates in 1959 during the debate for civil rights for black people. It was a racist act then, and still is.
It’s not the losers rewriting history. History has always been dictated to the will of the winners, that’s why idiots such as yourself believe what you do about the Confederacy.
If she was eminent, I would have heard of her.
You are correct. Only winners get to rewrite history. It's part of the spoils of war after all.
The Confederacy will not rise again but it will cry about losing forever and ever. 😢
Just like Donnie Vonshitzinpants.
the facts-over-feelings crowd cannot stop crying over losing the war
The Native Americans do the same.
The political party of the Confederacy never died. It's stronger than ever. It's called the Democrat Party.
I'm glad the confederacy is gone.
We shouldn't honor it.
That don't mean we should forget about it and what it did
@@JamesDean-jy7oh Naming a school after someone is honoring that person. If you merely want to "remember" Stonewall Jackon or Robert E. Lee, feel free to name outhouses after them. It's more fitting.
@@Dan210871 love it or hate it. It's not up to us. I didn't vote to have George Floyd statue yet there it is
@@JamesDean-jy7oh This is not a matter of opinion. All verifiable facts indicate that Lee, Jackson and their ilk were racist and traitorous losers who fought to preserve slavery. Water is wet. The sky is blue. The South was on the wrong side of history. And it is up to anyone with an ounce of decency to say so and to act accordingly. Maybe come back after you grow a spine?
@@JamesDean-jy7ohoh yea, naming a school is the only possible way we can learn history.
...and this is one reason why I won't visit or spend money in Virginia.
Same for Georgia and Florida.
@mst3k751 Stay out of the entire South. Nobody needs you here.
You just named the most dense black populated states.
I'm sure you're not "destroying" those states' economies by not spending money.
You must really feel like you've done something by letting people know that.
That's OK. There's plenty of people who do. Your finances are not needed.
Good. Stay out. Nobody cares.
Only 1 person smh
Vote him out
Cope.....
@@adamagnusYou should leave the nation.
@@LKO4923You should not vote. Ever again.
Funny how people telling other people to leave are not indigenous 😅
The Republican party and all like minded appointees and elected officials want to turn back the clock 150 years!
There’s nothing to be proud about this… shame on the school board for allowing this to happen…
why? they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
They should of never taken them down to begin with. History is History good or bad get over it
Says a racist
Don't conflate history with veneration@@unknowntrucker7010
@@unknowntrucker7010 its astonishing how bad some people want to erase our history
Time to vote out school board members!!! Virginia is better than this.
We can still acknowledge history without glorifying it at the same time. Denying it only does damage to society in the long run.
No, erasing our ancestors' names and trying to make us ashamed of them does damage in the long run.
@@georgial6398who wouldn't be ashamed of traitors who attempted to destroy America?
Deny it? Why should names be honored is the real question..
Here is history for you. They were named for confederates in 1959 during the debate for civil rights for black people. It was a racist act then, and still is.
Being anti-black damages us in the longer run ❤
Dumb, this is the U.S not the Confederacy if you don't love this country leave it.
Had to laugh, sorry. They tried, that was the civil war. The South tried to leave, and the us fought a war to stop them.
@@user-fr3hy9uh6yno they did leave actually, they weren’t at all apart of the US
@@sunnybear178there was no legal mechanism to leave, so it was considered open rebellion
@@sunnybear178wrong. The South killed their neighbors so they could keep SLAVES 🤮🤮🤮
You do know that majority of these people who fought for the confederacy went on to be in congressman, senators and such… you should maybe study some history. And then you might find out that men like Robert E Lee didn’t believe in slavery, and they didn’t fight for that. They fought for the over taxation of southern agriculture and then having those taxes spent north. While northern businesses received tax breaks. They fought for states rights, that there was a point where the federal government could overstep…which is what we were founded on. You know this country called Britain and a Queen, who over taxed the colonies to pay for their wars and invasion into other countries. Or maybe you enjoy paying taxes and never see those dollars at work… I’m guessing you vote democrat. I mean they are the original slave owners and the founders of the KKK
Did they reinstate separate drinking fountains to acknowledge their history?
great point
Give them time.
Your racism is showing.....
The point here is not forgetting, history, forgetting your history is the best way to repeat it. You have a little bit of knowledge, but lack perspective and viewpoint, it's people like you willfully tearing this country apart.
@@Steve-yr5vithis has nothing to do with remembering history, this has everything to do with celebrating the Confederacy.
As the last gentleman said, we're supposed to learn from history. Does that mean they should rename the schools for Hitler, Mussolini, and Hirohito? After all, they played pivotal roles in this country's history and shouldn't be forgotten.
Celebrating losers. Stereotypical
"Losers"? Lol. Like you? Nah, "losers" are people who do nothing with their life. They don't make monuments and statues of "losers". A "loser" judges yesterday's men by today's standards....
@@pogo9876 They were losers and the statues are participation trophies erected by racists who were mad they lost the war.
@@nickmenza2671and February.
@@pogo9876
The statues represent traitors Who went against the country and their oath of office.
That’s what your mother said at every one of your birthday parties.
This is cruel! I'd hate to live there. Naming schools after slave owners and murderers seems wrong. Hey loudmouth, just because you yell doesn't make you right.
pathetic... In case anybody still has any illusions about how "sentient" a species we are...
This is actually disgusting
no, what happened in 2020 was disgusting, they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
That’s what your mother said when you were born.
Cope harder "Steinberg"
And where was a student that supported this latest proposed change?
Confederate South -- You LOST the war -- get over it!!! 🙄
Imperialist North-You unconstitutionally INVADED the South-Wake up to that. The South had their reasons too, and they weren't ALL about slavery (THE DEBATE OVER TARIFFS HAD A LOT TO DO WITH THE SOURING OF RELATIONS BEFORE THE WAR TOO). After all, slavery's long over, but we're still divided and hating on each other. Kinda proves my point. The North and South have always viewed the role of government in enforcing its morality in individual lives differently. The North, thanks to Puritanism, favors it. The South, thanks to mercantilism, opposes it. That was the root of the struggle in 1620, 1861...and sadly is still the root of our political divide today. We've learned that little about each other in over 400 years. That's what's truly sad. We're still growing apart. If it continues, I fear the nation's survival. Get some good books and really read about what led up to the Civil War, and not just parrot what both sides said to try and justify the disaster afterwards. There's dirty hands on both sides, sadly. After all, the same heroic Union Army who defeated the South is the exact same Union Army that slaughtered the Native Americans for a solid 10 years immediately afterwards. Proud of that? I'm not.
Communists. You LOST. Get over it.
These people are still living in the past
Virgil quick come see there goes Robert E Lee......
Reality is Robert E. Lee did not own slaves and was on record stating it was time for slavery to end. However he believed it could be done without war. Despite what you might believe about the North's motivations, a significant motivator for the North attacking the South was wealth. (similar to the motivation behind Biden's every decision) The north's economy pre-civil war was failing, where as the South's being based on agriculture was prospering as they traded on the global economy. Also keep in mind, North America had adopted the use of slaves at a far lower rate than any of their agricultural competitors. Not only that slavery as a practice came to this continent from Africa, where it was widely practiced at the time and in fact is still practiced to this very day.
Where, where 👀
Wow. Talk about a waste of time! Shouldn’t this board be spending time on EDUCATION? This board needs to be cleared, and filled with people who are enlightened.
We are trying!
they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
Seriously. Putting such strength in names, symbols, and labels is what holds society back. Should have just left the name so it wouldn't need to be changed back. Bowing to such societal pressure shows the weakness of that board. Talk about a lack of priorities.
@@AliceInStays do you also believe they should have just left the “WHITES ONLY” signs up?
Did you say the same thing, when they were changing the names the first time?
I just love the "heritage" argument...Hitler is part of Germany's heritage but I don't see them naming any institutions after him...
I don't understand why the children can't decide. Why is a group of older white folk getting a say in something that doesn't involve them? Well Merica I guess.
Why did you notice and make a point about them being white? This is the problem.
Primitive thinking. They want to call minorities primates and every name when they're the unevolved race.
How is this board reflective of the state’s population? If you ever had any doubts regarding what currently still drives the state of VA, there you have it… 😂😂😂
school boards rep the LOCAL district not the state or fed , they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
Do you understand where Shenandoah County Virginia even is?
@@kevinallies1014klan country
Gods Country!
This is just disrespectful
I live here my kids go to school here I’m a country boy in every sense of the word and I represent the normal person in this county. If the name of the schools were changed legally back in 2020 there would’ve been some people upset but it would have been long passed by now. I could care less what the name of the school is but if you research what was done 4 years ago you’ll quickly find why this happened and realize that this was going to be the result. As you watch these school board members make this decision and infuriate 6 percent of the county understand that 4 years ago every citizens right to due process and democracy were blatantly ignored under the cover of Covid by the school board that was made up of the polar opposites of what we have today. Also if you watch the 4 years of school board meetings leading up to this you’ll see some racism you’ll see some outright cry babies but most importantly you’ll see one side saying it’s ok to break the rules when it suits us and the other side saying we’ve had enough. Either way this isn’t over and all in all it’s pretty entertaining I think next meeting I’m gonna go and bring up the idea that the school needs 2 names. Why not? People are doing it to their kids.
I'm really glad my family and I don't live by you in this area, it's pretty gross if you ask me and it definitely is not sending a welcoming message. I imagine that you might even admit openly that you don't want them 'others' near you anyhow. As far as your idear for the next meeting, I say go for it. It sounds really stupid but I expect more stupid things to come in the future from this area and school board in general so at least it fits.
Mr Gutshall was not local, you can tell !
Oh that first guy...
"History is not important"
That is one of the most fatal thoughts one can have...
Good job on Hikesmen putting that guy in his place
Sounds to me like you’re misunderstanding what he was saying.
@@dudesonismyhero Maybe I misheard, but I that's what I made out
@@glennmandigo6069 he’s just weighing the importance of the name of a school (history) versus the kids that go there to learn (the future).
Children should learn about the past, but they shouldn’t be shamed by it every day when they go to school.
@@glennmandigo6069You did. Because he didn't say history is not important. He said the future is more important than history. There's a big distinction there.
@@THEhorihito Preserving history is part of making a better future
What do you expect. Hate is their legacy.
The fact that the north kept their slaves longer than the south shows your values and entire world view has succumbed to propaganda.
You have no clue what “our” legacy is!
The north had slaves, too. Kept them longer than the south as well. Teach us more about hate.
@@khloecohen4841 So, somehow that justifies honoring the Confederacy by naming schools after their "heroes", who fought for the right to own slaves?
@@ga6589 My reply was to "hate is their legacy" when "their" was the north just as much. Further, when the north had slaves, but kept them longer than the south, that shows that there was a lot more issues at stake than slavery. To only focus on that one universally safe aspect, is incredibly shallow and engineered to squash dissent of any kind.
Imagine reciting The Pledge of Allegiance in a school dedicated to a person who took up arms against the United States of America, who killed U.S. Soldiers, who stood with the Confederacy.
Oh don't worry, they haven't made the kids say the pledge for years
They fought against the government to try and make their own big government.
@@keithkafe No they still do, kids just have a choice to not recite it if they choose.
Youre making a large leap from keeping the names of the Confederate figures, and redoing our entire allegiance to the Confederacy. This isnt about glorifying the Confederates. Its about keeping the historical record that was made there in our history.
Where do you even make these connections?
@@razberrycuddles22 I never stated the Pledge of Allegiance was being cited to an allegiance to the Confederacy. I'm pointing out that kids are reciting the American Pledge of Allegiance while in a school dedicated to a man who stood against the United States of America. A man that took up arms against the U.S. and man who led Confederate soldiers in battles to killed United States of America soldiers for the Confederacy right to own other humans as property.
There is no significant historical value to naming a school that was open in 1958 (durning the height of the Civil Rights Movement and Desegregation) to Robert E. Lee other than to make a very obvious segregation statement.
Whenever the confederacy is mentioned, the first 2 states that come to mind are SC & VA... *So, where's the surprise?*
I think of Alabama.
@@cathyhetzel7692 Indeed. Add MS & GA to solidify the Top 5.
Ignorance 🤬
and then they wonder why we are so divided or always have to bring up RACE
🤮
If this were about Jews there would be no question....
Of course they did. 🤮
Gross
Finally someone is standing up to you Bigots!
White Lives Matter.
Omg!! This is crazy !!!
The last guy was obviously the wisest.
WOW!! This is FKN CRAZY!!
no the crazy part is the fascist in 2020, these people did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
Let's look at who said"Yes" or the whole board itself. Get out and vote at every election.
Vote to keep them in 👍
they did what we elected them to do in the latest elections, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
Unfortunately, racists vote. And there are a lot of them.
@@hrlincoln9873 liar
was done under the cover of darkness illegally so the local public would not know it was being done, and, the guy that voted no, voted yes last time when the votes werent there then ran on changing the names, then switched his vote, a dem, a liar, he votedno to stand out because he desires to live off the govt teat for life and wants to move up in dem politics.
this board did what we elected them to do, including the Puerto Rican woman in blue who i elected in nov 2023
in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
SAVAGE... 🤬
Celebrating ignorance and dedication to a corrupt cause
Well there's still the democratic party, the party of slavery and KKK so yep they celebrate ignorance and dedication to a corrupt cause everyday!
Like BLM right?
@@TheKrazy987 Yes, you could say the 2 examples are the same.
No, more like truck nutz, but I bet you like those too
@jimdolde1845 The easiest way to catch a victim is to mention BLM.
That's a white board if I've ever seen one... Looking down at the ground in shame.
white, the lady in blue is puerto rican
This is a white country
What’s funny is a lot of immigrants who flee their corrupt countries end up being republicans😂 /whoosh
I've seen a very dark black school board in Chicago...
White is good
Disgrace
Wow. WTG, #Virginia; setting the #US on the pathway towards another (UN)#CivilWar.
I don’t see the problem. Just around the corner is where I graduated from hitler elementary. Is that bad or something?
I heard it was an art school!
It wasn't an issue until 2020 🤔
This is disturbing
It’s not your state. Go be a liberal somewhere else Yankee boy
not, what the board in 2020 did was disturbing.. they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
It’s history. You can’t just forget about it because you don’t like it. Oh wait! You’re a Dim. YOU rewrite it all the time!
Many confederates fought simply because the Union (federal government) started the war by trying to impose on state's rights.
-Slavery in America eventually would have ended on its own due to technological developments.
-There were far more slaves in Africa itself than in the U.S. and slavery is still ongoing in some parts of Africa.
-The Trans-Atlantic slavery trade originated in Africa and was started by Africans, Africans who sold or traded other African slaves to Muslim, Jewish, or European merchants.
-One of the largest genocides to ever occur in human history was the Bantu expansion in Africa, where Bantu people murdered, pillaged, and enslaved their way throughout much of the African continent.
Why don’t they name it Benedict Arnold High to preserve history?
Interesting how those so loudly defending "democracy" today are also mostly those most disparaging the democratic process at work here. The removal of the names from the schools was done by a democratically elected school board and now the re-en-statement of the names has now also done by a NEWLY democratically-elected school board (for the name changes were THAT unpopular with the public). I live in the neighboring county to Shenandoah County in the Shenandoah Valley of VA, where Stonewall Jackson fought his famous 1862 campaigns that are still taught in military academies worldwide as THE quintessential masterpieces of asymmetrical warfare. Nobody here STILL favors slavery, racism, nor wants to go back to Antebellum times. That's ridiculous and not the point. Nobody suffered more from that war than our ancestors here who lived through it. But we do want to remember and commemorate our past, good and bad, for IT IS A PART OF WHO WE ARE, good and bad. Facing those complexities are the key to personal growth and our growth as a nation. So, we should not do as tyrants do and purge them, but do as free men do and FACE THEM, openly, repent of them, repair the evils as best we can, and yes, celebrate and keep and remember the good in these men as well. Neither Jackson nor Lee were the devils modern critical theory practitioners mindlessly chant, nor were they the saints as some Neo-Confederate "Lost Causers" insist either. They were exceptionally able and at times very noble, but flawed men living in a flawed age (if you look into it, you'll find that both men eschewed racism and slavery, as much as their time and place would allow) ... Well, we too live in a very flawed age and are very flawed individuals. We could use a few more such noble and able men of conviction today, now that slavery is over and racism is as extinct as the law can ever really make it be. Or at least we can use a few more men & women who FACE AND LEARN TO UNDERSTAND such complexities, rather than childishly and ignorantly bury and ignore these difficult but essential lessons of history.
If you dont know the past how can you prevent the same mistakes?
If you know that the past was wrong, but you don't care, do you even want to prevent past mistakes from being repeated?
@@THEhorihitoslavery was wrong. Should we quit teaching about it in school so we can move forward too?
Even a little child learns not to touch something that will burn them when they remember that they touched it before and it hurt. If the child can't recall the pain he will continue to do the same thing over and over again.
You can know the past without repeating the gross mistakes and without props or visuals. 🤨
Virginia was part of the confederacy for four years: 1861 - 1865 & VA restoring confederate names to a school is not shocking, but no one should be compelled to honor names of those who fought to maintain the odious institution of enslavement because VA chooses the 4 years of the confederacy over the 246 years of enslavement. That one girl’s objection to the violation of her constitutional rights should suffice in preserving the neutral names, but no one questions or challenges how supporting a confederacy (before the Reconstruction Amendments were in full force and effect) is mutually exclusive of the dehumanization and deprivations of the Dred Scott decision.
De jure discrimination based on race was at the heart of the case of Loving v. VA in 1967, and until there is truth and conciliation, these badges and incidents of slavery will persist in 2024 and into perpetuity.
Virginia has proven that it has a compelling state interest in perpetuating false narratives and the doctrine of white supremacy. The schools’ names lasted 4 years as did VA in the confederacy.
There's a difference between history and glorification of the past. Changing names/relocating statues out of the public square isn't erasing history, it's erasing glorification of bad history.
Recall coming
Doubtful. You have obviously never been to the Shenandoah Valley.
God Bless those school board members for having a spine.
Racism still deeply entrenched in the good ol' South.
Racism in the north too my guy
The fact that the north had slaves longer than the south shows your values and entire worldview has succumbed to propaganda.
@@unknowntrucker7010but this story is about the south. Stop deflecting
True. I get called white boy all the time.
@@coryhuff8083 antiwhiteism
Racists gotta racist.
Each person's feelings about this come down to their understanding of the history behind those men and the war they fought. This war didn't follow simple lines and was full of complexities on both sides. It is absolutely worth reading about in a time when most people would prefer to be told what to feel. It was a war between two slaveholding nations. Robert E. Lee, who opposed slavery and favored the Union, had been offered command of the Union Army by Lincoln and declined because Virginia was his home. Lincoln was willing to grant more decades of slavery in order to preserve the Union. Virginia had voted to remain part of the Union until Lincoln decided to use force. Also as far as the Confederates being sore losers - Robert E. Lee disobeyed Jefferson Davis's orders to maintain a guerilla war, instead encouraging the South to support Lincoln's unification agenda. Lee's reputation as an honorable warrior earned respect from the entire nation and greatly aided healing. History is important because life is important. Everyone here is happy the slaves were freed. But many do not see the chains that still exist. There are still more stories to be heard, and more battles to be fought. We are all brothers in arms. Peace
Why?
.they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
History is history people. Live with it.
until in involves black people
What is the context please
they did what we elected them to do, in 2020, under the cover of darkness, in violation of state law, a bunch of scared liberal woke legislators, over the 4th of july holiday, with no public input, changed these names, the supreme court says it was illegal, but would not undo the name change, it took four years to undo the work of cowards.
Context: We want to honor traitors of the USA that waged war on American soil due to their beliefs in white supremacy & the enslavement of people as a means of indicating our POV without flat out saying it bcuz we know in today's society to flat out say it is frowned upon by many other Caucasians.
If tearing down statues is the only way to save a country then you're in bigger trouble done having a statue up
WTAf are you babbling about?
If you think keeping the statues up is all that's saving america you need to stop being a mouth breather. They weren't even placed there til the 60's in a very transparent campaign to counter the civil rights movement.
Let me at that George Floyd statue!
O, what a waste😡
Your mother said the same thing when you were born.
@@kevinallies1014 Typical racist FOOL U R!!!! I hope ur crop prob is alright with locust 13 & 17🤭!
The “X” symbol of the Confederate flag, the flag of Alabama, the flag of Florida, and the flag of Jamaica is a symbol that originated in geoglyphs of Neolithic Kazakhstan. It is one “Mark of Cain” which also includes slavery, colonization, warfare, the symbol of the swastika, and red flags.
Slavery and the ancient symbol of the “X” was spread by Maritime Cultures that were ancestral to the Phoenician Canaanites of Western Europe and Northwestern Africa.
Trump’s grandparents were born and raised near the ritual center in Herxheim Germany where Linearbandkeramik farmers butchered and ate 500 to 1,000 victims of human sacrifice. Trump is a descendant of the pagans that Noah cursed to become the slaves of slaves.
The movie franchise of “Star Wars” is based upon a conflict between two ancient Empires (one a Republic of slave owners, one of Democratic people who believed in liberty and justice for all). The same Empires, and their ancient grudge, are the subject of Romeo and Juliet. The Romans (who were Huns) used the symbol of the Star and Crescent, while the Israelites (descendants of Hebrews) used the symbol of the Star of David.
Anakin is Kinana, or Sinanna, Canaanite. Today’s Conservatives (“Servants of Canaan”) are the descendants of Phoenician Canaanites.
The Romans created maps of Germania. The Netherlands were home to people called Caninefates, or Cananefates and Chamavii. These Cananefates were probably named for Canaanfa(der)ates, or Cananva(der)ates, literally “fathers of Canaan”, Canaan vaderates.
The Can’vaderates sailed to North America during the Roman conquest of Germania and became the Confederates who named Alabama for Elo Ba’ Hamae, named the Bahamas for Ba’ Hamas, named Jamaica for Jameh. The Confederates (Cain Vaderates) were Dutch Canaanites that were the original Pirates of the Caribbean who flew flags displaying an “X” (Confederate flag, flag of Alabama, flag of Florida, flag of Jamaica, Saint Patrick’s Saltire, flag of Scotland, Saint Andrew’s Saltire, the Cross of Burgundy, the flag of Britain, the Russian Navy ensign) that originated in geoglyphs of Neolithic Kazakstan.
The Confederates started a war with the United States of America (which killed 620,000 Americans) to conserve their culture of slavery. A man named Abraham freed the slaves. The Confederates assassinated Abraham.
Praise the Lord. God Bless General Lee! #dixierising
Theyre changing it back from george floyd high
That guy said "no" with disgust.
He is disgusted by his lifestyle.
The last guy was spot on.
So good to see Republicans going all out in support of honoring Democrats
Going backwards rarely works. I had a grandfather who fought on the confederate side, but I wouldn't feel good glorifying that. Just because it's history doesn't make it good history.
You would have to be over 100 years old to have a grandfather who fought in the Civil War. You should probably learn history if you are going to lie about history.
@@kevinallies1014exactly... my grandfathers' grandfathers' grandfathers (literally) fought in the Civil War.
Thank you
WE SEE YOUR "REAL" COLORS SHINNING THROUGH!
Not surprising at all
Restore the names
Can we get a Micheal Vick high school in bad new VA?
Confederates getting a particupation trophy
The confederacy loss rename it after union heroes rename it after patriots that’s by the flag!!!!
Good.
Understand why you are lonely.
The Union Soldiers are the real heroes
don't tell the Democrats that.
@@vuton7670really? I don't see too many democrats waving confederate flags these days. Or are those people democrats as they chant blood and soil
Considering that the north kept their slaves longer than the south shows your values and entire world view has succumbed to propaganda
Thanks god i live in west virginia... Come to WV
So you can still marry your sister?
Bragging: You're doing it wrong.
As a black person I am in no way disadvantaged by changing the name back. It’s history.
I am sure most Germans have forgotten about HItler since they removed his names and pictures from public places.
I’m not a fan of this, but if the people in Virginia vote for this, they can.
History is to important to sacrifice over contrived "feelings"!
"To" =/= "too".
@@Dan210871 ok rainman :) don't get your toto in a bunch.."Too sacrifice". If that had been audible, would you have needed clarification?
@@crusader_2028 I don't need clarification. I simply pointed out that you are functionally illiterate, and therefore your opinion can be ignored.
Fact about history… Erase it, forget it, repeat it.
I guarantee most of you voted for Biden!!
Imagine worshipping losers lol
This is why voting matters... All those people were elected to those positions.
Funny how it's a panel full of older white people....
So many tear droppers
Wild
Good