If you use a gaussian scale, people rated 4 to 6 would look average. But for the school systems of many countries 4/10 means failure, while an average student will have a 7. I think that that's part of the reason why people rate themselves so "highly".
I think its not complicated its just that Americans are dumb. I was an exchange student in the US. People used calculators for the silliest calculations and were sooo behind compared to rest of the world. But they do learn what "average" means. No excuse. Its not about grades or anything. 1 to 10 middle is average. I wish people would stop giving that excuse. People say 6-7 because they dont want to believe they are average. They also deep down know so they stay close to the average and give themselves stuff like 6-7
@@thegalhorowitz It totally makes sense that the feelings people associate with those scores influence the way they rate their FEELINGS about how other people look. Let's not kid ourselves. There's absolutely no reason to expect everyone to take this thing as seriously as some people here do
Since I’ve learnt more about facial aesthetics from this channel I’ve become way more critical when evaluating faces and realise it’s super rare to actually see someone who would be in the 8-10 range. In a weird way you sort of appreciate it more when you do see it.
It's kind of sad really they were mathematically assessing people. There's more to people than how they look, and of course looks change and fade With Time
@@iamrichlolit's a rating of physical attractiveness only, so naturally it's going to only look at physical features and nothing else. Of course physical attractiveness is not the only way we decide if someone is attractive. Most people in real life will find a 6-7 attractive, don't let social media fool you into thinking otherwise. This channel also doesn't focus on body attractiveness, which is a significant component in how we judge physical attractiveness
I prefer the 1-3 scale to describe how attractive I see someone. 1. "unattractive". 2. Alright looking 3. Girls I think are cute. I can't really rank people objectively.
I think a logical way to self asses one's own attractiveness is to just assume your a 5 out 10 until evidence proves otherwise. That evidence being, your interactions with other people, especially with the opposite sex. Statistically most of us are average. And theres nothing wrong with that.
I agree, I think people just don't like the idea of being 5/10 it because they want to be separate from others. What most people don't take into account is that because average also has the largest number representation within a population (assuming normal distribution curve), naturally within that there will be large variation of features, and some people may like some '5s' over others because of that. I also feel like 90% of people can be at least a functional 7/10 if they actually put in decent effort. Wearing clothes that compliment your figure, improving gender-neutral attractive qualities e.g. skin, teeth/jaw, fitness/physique, working on being confident in social settings...all these things contribute holistically to your attractiveness. As a guy I can say many other men don't make any real effort to improve on these things. Even if you're average in terms of baseline genetics, just addressing one or two of them already puts you way ahead of most other 5/10s
@@DrAlchem01 I agree with all you said except by the 90% can be a 7/10, 'cause that's impossible. 5/10 is already 50% of general population but alot of them have a potential to be a 6 like above average which means pretty/handsome faces but not an outliner from the rest. 7s is where it starting to be extreme like someone can be like a model by that.
Plus lighting and angles. It's become far too easy for anyone to fake it on the internet. The reason you don't see people that look that good out in the real world is largely because even those people don't look that good in reality.
But that would be a contributor to the oversaturation of attractive people, even though they are using filters, photoshop and other tools as 80% of people use them that would create the oversaturation, that doesn't mean that those individuals are physically attractive in real life on the contrary that would create this dissonance between what we see on the internet and what we see in real life
I agree with the sentiment of what your saying, but wouldn't say focus on the material world is the problem. I would tweak your statement and say *obsession* with the material world leads to misery. Focusing on enriching relationships; cultivating *contentment* with your life and your self, rather than trying to bounce from moment to moment of temporary happiness. Focusing on the material is necessary to an extent. Several studies show that the 'halo effect' is a real thing, and affects lives in very palpable ways including job prospects & earning potential. If looking good allows you to make more money, and in turn provide for your family better, then it absolutely makes sense to invest in that with either time or money, in the same way it makes perfect sense to work towards qualifications that would have a similar impact on your income
@@paul562a 6’3 handsome man might get a more consistent life but women have a much higher opportunity to use their beauty. You can’t really compare men and women in this case because even a fat woman in the west will get more matches than even the most attractive male model
To be fair, I think the 1-10 scale is very good at determining a general gauge of attractiveness because I don't think most people think too deeply into what they find attractive or not.
Same. At a certain point it becomes similar to art. Someone may like Pollock over Michelangelo. Both can be good and at the end of the day the point is that it's your opinion.
Quoves showed all these clips of Americans but then ignored a big factor… In the USA we have been raised in to think 7 is passing but not above average. So when these Americans give themselves a 7 they are saying that they are “passing” or average. I bet if you asked them a letter grade for their looks most would say C or B. A 90-100% 4.0 B 80-89% 3.0 C 70-79% 2.0 D 60-69% 1.0 F 0-59% 0.0
as an Italian, our grading system is from 3 to 10, passing point is 6, so when people. are asked about attractiveness most people rate themselves a 7 which is above passing point, so it makes sense.
Yeah. He focuses way more on what he thinks the data should look, rather than how it actually looks, which is ironic considering he frames himself as being objective and just looking at data. He cites a study that people 1/3 of people self-report a 7/10 but curiously, he doesn't cite a study of what is the most common reported rating when people rate others. I have a feeling it is probably 7 rather than a 5 that he thinks it should be. It's a glaring omission since I don't know if a 7 is a wild disreprcancy for when people self report, or if it is inline with how they rate others as well.
Can you make a video on facial expressions and facial muscles? How some people look really graceful while they talk and others are extremely expressive. And also how that affects the perception of symmetry (like someone smiling more on one side unintentionally) and so on
I GOTTA KNOW THIS! i’m averagely “attractive” (big round eyes, small nose, average mouth, straight teeth) but i’m REALLY expressive (eyebrows, mouth and eyes always moving and really exaggerated). I relate a lot to Emilia Clarke and Drew Barrymore bcs they also have this tendency. On them I find it cute/endearing. But on me I find it terrible and really unattractive.
This. I have decent features but when smiling I have a droopy nose and makes me go “huh? Is that my nose moments ago before I showed my teeth?” So many details and minute specifics like muscle attachment that really has huge impact are understated
Oo I find this super interesting, and I’d definitely watch a video essay o n this topic ! One thing I’ve been noticing a lot is when, in books, they describe someone as having an easy smile. The first person irl I can think of is Sam Claflin. On the other hand, I feel like I sometime look as if it takes a lot of effort for me to smile big. Maybe bc of my mouth shape/size, but it’s weird to think about for too long lol
One thing that is left out completely in this video is age. Do you judge yourself only compared to your own age group? Or against all age groups? Changes the results significantly.
I’m personally just appalled at how easy people are willing to rate strangers on social media for everyone to see without taking the other person’s feeling in consideration. I just wouldn’t be able to do that. Same with rating myself. It’s just horrible.
That's messed up. I looked at your pfp and you are so handsome. You have to also understand that these rateme subs and trm subs are also infested with people with low esteem and get joy out of making weird comments. I truly hope you see how good looking you are brother.@@christopherxiangchu
i appreciate it man, i only looks that way when i smile since it hides my recessed chin. When i don't smile my chin becomes recessed tbh@@tahirrizwan6759
I have never understood why people considered 5 ugly when it’s literally dead in the middle of the scale. But then again, for most people, being just average doesn’t feel “good enough” at all-especially when we constantly see all those gorgeous people on social media, on TV, and in movies.
Isn’t good enough? Then why are you alive? You should be living your life for improvement. Being in the middle is not okay. It will never be okay. A 5 is the worst thing you can be
@@squidwardt0rtellini 5 is average nothing is bad with that. Yes, u can improve your lifestyle but bffr no one can change their genes. Lean body but if the face is a 5, still a 5.
Its really strange when I see those interviews on the street and so many people consider 7/10 the average and that's what they rate themselves when they realistically are a 4 or 5. I am really curious to understand why so many people believe that 7 is the average. As if the rating chart was from 5-10 instead of 1-10. People seem to get extremely offended when someone is called a 6 or something (as if that doesn't mean they are higher than 50% of everyone else).
Americans don't understand what the word average means, and are more likely to get their feelings hurt talking about their appearance than some other places in the world. I've seen these type of street rating videos done in Japan and every girl ranked themselves a 5 or 6 and said they were about average. I don't think it's lower self esteem, they were just more honest.
@@rosethorn0232 That’s true. Ig I East Asians also have a reputation for being honest about looks (like telling ppl they are fat or ugly or too dark, etc) so it makes sense their answers actually make sense.
Because Americans are looks obsessed so to admit to yourself that more than half the population is better looking than you is an ego blow almost worse than death
I've found that a good way to gauge your own attractiveness is that girls who seem to really capture my attention and appear to me as 9s and make me feel deep infatuation are actually 5-6s that seem genuinely attainable and have some quality about them I really like. Something about the feeling of attainability must be inherent in our own attractiveness. Thus I believe my attractiveness to be around a 6.
The problem with this is... what if an (objectively, as in with facial measurements) unattractive individual is deeply infatuated with a very attractive individual? Your whole theory falls apart really quickly.
@@mar1nn998studies have found that women that are 6’s and 7’s get hit on much more often than women who are 8’s and above because they seem more attainable. The men who do hit on the 8’s, 9’s and 10’s are basically the millionaires, male models/body builders, celebrities and the occasional pickup artist that just wants to try his luck but doesn’t really care to have a relationship. The reason men don’t try is: a) they think those women will reject them anyway (and they do) b) even if they end up getting them through sheer luck, they’ll have to cave in to every demand as the woman feels she did him a favor by “giving him a chance” c) it’s a pain to mate guard her from the guys that DO hit on her as they’re typically better than him in every way and thus you don’t have any leeway to make mistakes due to the easy availability of better options.
Rating people based on attractiveness kinda has no point and is superficial but we live in a superficial world generally and I understand where it comes from.With good posture and good hygiene, clothes anyone can look at least decent I would say.
It matters more for women than men a man who's ugly or unconventional looking can still have a high SMV depending on how much money and power he has eg Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg who most women would admit if they didn't have wouldn't find them attractive if they didn't have the wealth and resources they have but for a woman to climb up that socioeconomic ladder looks play more into that because heterosexual men on average value looks more as opposed to women
@@Model_Roe Yeah I think you are right in some way, women are treated better/worse when it comes to looks if a woman doesn't have the "looks"she is more judged unfortunately.
I would give myself a 6 or 5.6 I don't consider myself ugly nor am I too insecure about my looks but I find other people more attractive then me. Also yeah I noticed it too that the more I spend my time on the internet I see extremely attractive people I'd give them a 10 but I know that half of them have gotten some plastic surgery whereas when I go out most people are average looking.
It’s actually very funny how my own perceived attractiveness went down as a actually got more attractive. I always though myself as a 6 even though I was a 3 or 4 realisticly. I was skinnyfat, puffy face, had a terrible haircut and acne as well as yellow theeth. Now I think I am a 5 or 5.5 realisticly because I know pretty well of my flaws. But I don’t think it’s much higher than that realisticly. Hanging around with attractive people certainly helped me to put my self into my place.
I also think don’t think that 5/10 is a bad rating. If your a 5/10 you have a normal or solid face to look at. Half of people your age look better and the other half looks worse than you. Your absolutely fine with being a 5/10 facially. I think I am a 5/10 facially and I have still have a beautiful girlfriend with a great personality that loves me, my personality and my average looking face. Also I am still improving my looks to maybe become 6 or even 7 facially and being 6‘3 (190cm) gives me an additional confidence boost. So I am not mad about my appearance.
You're a 7.5 on an objective scale but i could see a lot of girls thinking you're a 9/10-10/10 because one can still be considered attractive without having an beautiful face
Someone else mentioned this, but in many G7 countries not many countries in general, 7/10 is kinda the average grade people get, while 5/10 is barely passing and anything below that like a 3 or 4/10 would be failing. I think this is a very good point
I just wanted to address how much I appreciate your content. Ever since I stumbled upon this channel I managed to piece together a lot of elements regarding people’s physique. A lot of the things which contribute to people’s attractiveness or its lack of often is not spoken out, hence people really tend to be imprecise with their ratings of themselves and other people. I believe that actually knowing the right criteria for being attractive simply makes it easier to work on your appearance ( in case you want to, of course) It may lead you to making small changes in style and improving some other minor details which may bump up your “number” to a point or even two Thanks for putting all of this info out there!
I always saw the scale as 5=not especially ugly nor attractive/no opinion, 4 or less unattractive, and 6+ attractive. I think it’s fair to say that many people these days have something attractive about them, so the higher ratings may be warranted. That’s just the way I see it though.
I'm definitely mid like 5-6 just an average lookin person and the thing is I'm not mad about it, like sure yeah it would be nice to be attractive, but I was delt my hand and my life still goes on and I'm still enjoying the things I do in my life. It's hard to be satisfied, no one is ever really satisfied, but continuing to reach unattainable things only hurts your mental state. Live a good life with what you've been given, and you will find some satisfaction in that.
Being average is not a bad thing, bro and yeah, for most people it's impossible for them to be exceptionally beautiful but life is more than that. It doesn't mean you're a worthless human. You can focus on other things that also matters and makes you happy.
I wouldnt be able to put people on a scale at all but when talking about this topic I always differentiate between people that are objectively „really good looking“ and „people I am attracted to“. They CAN overlap but more often than not they dont. Most often people I find genuinely attractive are people who are my own type face wise plus a nice body shape. I believe facial attractiveness is much more subjective than body.
i love you for telling people that the scale normally use had no credibility and will only just warp your standard of what is beautiful and what is not
So, in the past I’ve had the pleasure of having TWO extremely attractive friends. Both male and female. The male, according to him, was routinely hit on by his mom’s friends, girls, and was regularly flirted with, and even was given numbers from random girls when he worked as a cashier in high school. Even one “MILF” gave her number. The girl, also admitted to being hit on many times, even by a couple male teachers. Countless approaches, flirts, and didn’t have to pay for her meal at fast food joints on two occasions. Both of them have stated to me in one way or the other, the best way to sort of GAUGE how attractive you are in real life….is simply the number of compliments you’ve received from strangers. Not family, not friends, strangers or people you barely know. From the opposite sex, for the most part. They have no incentive to lie to you. If you’ve received A LOT (more than you can count on two hands at least) by 21ish, you’re exceptional. Top tier A handful by the same age, maybe above average “6-7” One or two in your life up to that point? Likely plain average or just barely above it. One or none at all? Average at best and under. It’s just a simple measure. It doesn’t take into account massive (natural) glow ups, or people who were hermits and never went out and socialized and talked to people. But in THEIR experiences, and for the most part, being extremely attractive, and in addition to having more attractive friends too, this was their conclusions. The sheer amount of compliments from total strangers, or people you barely know, or the classic, “My friend thinks you’re hot….” It’s just a simple gauge, nothing more. But to them, it’s shown to be effective.
Interesting theory but I think this is somewhat flawed because girls compliment each other a lot more than guys.., also with the way quoves rates i estimate he'd rate me 6 (or 7 at best) in the flesh yet over the years i've had several women approach me in the street. one approached me and immediately asked if she could come back to my place. I am a 6 or 7 at best! I think external attention isn't solely based on physical attractiveness, I think some people for whatever reason just get more attention than others...
21 is super young though? they only have 3 years into their adult life and anything before that is beyond weird if it’s coming from anyone outside of their age
And when you not 21 anymore? I'am 41 and when I go out for dancing I'am being normally every time approached several times during one evening. But what does that mean. Maybe I'm just a good dancer... Maybe they just want to hook up... Maybe they think I'am easy to have? Which is not true... I don't know, if it is that easy.
I think it’s cool to learn about facial aesthetics!! ALSO…..we’ve entered a new period in human history…..we are all becoming narcissistic as all. And although I see the benefits of this RUclips channel, as it helps people make better choices…..it simultaneously contributes to the ever increasing wide-spread narcissism we see today. Comparing yourself to others DOES make you unhappy. So is this channel helpful? Maybe. But even science has become fucking narcissistic. We have lost touch with ourselves. Humanity is going down a dark path….and it’s really sad to be alive during this time 😢 Only you can make yourself happy. No one will save you.
I agree so much, the obsession with things like objective beauty (having engaged with this content for 3 years myself) will only make people more selfish and vain
@@babbie5163 that's so true, that's why i have a problem with this channel... I don't think it is helpful at all to look at our beauty "objectively" in the way this channel does. Just like that looksmaxxing trend or whatever it is called.. We should embrace our natural features and stop being so obsessed with how people perceive our appearence, that's the only way to be truly happy with ourselves. The most beautiful people i have ever seen could be rated a 3 based on these standards of this channel, but it's because this channel ignores the subjectivity of beauty and the way we perceive it. We should above all be kind to ourselves and others and realize that "objective" beauty, in the end, doesn't really matter at all. Looking at beauty the way this channel does makes us superficial, obsessed, sad, and blind to the things that really matter.
I personally think of attractiveness as a combination of Cute, Pretty and Sexy. Someone can be a 9 7 0 or a 2 0 9. And how attractive you find them physically depends on how important each metric is to your personal taste. And you could expand it with a +/- number for Quirky/Funny/Je ne sais quoi. Cause there are definitely people whose looks fall outside of these numbers as well.
Beauty is objective and subjective there is what you find beautiful personally and what's been scientifically proven to be beautiful objectively they are not one in the same and the reality is most people are average looking there is nothing wrong with that very few people are in that top percentile of looks and most of them live in large cities
I'm a 5 or 5.5 most days, at my best I'm a 6. And do you know what? The majority of people are in the 4-6 range, it's just not polite to honestly rate each other out of ten so everybody gets blanket rated as '7' unless they are 7 or above in which case they get rated 9 or 10.
sometimes i see a lot of comments of people saying they started feeling bad about themselves the longer they watch this channel.. everything he says is still subjective- none of it matters. If anything if you find yourself feeling more insecure because of these videos i’d stop watching.
Yeah. I can't help but see how ugly/asymmetrical my face is in the mirror now. I'm obsessed with these tiny errors on my face :/ and take multiple pics of them to just stare at them lol
Most people overrate themselves why they feel bad the reality is most people are average looking there is nothing wrong with that but people get insulted when you call them average
Honestly most people can improve a lot by just losing weight or getting more toned (the vast majority of Americans fall into this camp.) once you get out of needing to improve your body territory, you can tell whether you need plastic surgery to live a better life. I need to be slim, have lip fillers (lips of a British man) and I would benefit from rhinoplasty (wouldn’t be able to find the time for it or money and I’m scared) and a botox brow lift (next on my list of to dos) and braces to fix my teeth.
I would rate my self a 3 😂 but the most funniest thing is when u reject a guy after he calls u cute and stuff and then he randomly tells u that you’re a 5 and ur ugly 😂 like okay thanks I thought I was a 3 but 5?! Damn 😂
In my view: 1-3: very unattractive 4: below average, invisible 5: average looking, invisible, both flaws & beauty traits cancel each other out so neither are memorable 6: plainly pretty, somewhat more beauty traits that 5 7: noticeably beautiful & obviously attractive, but people would hesitate to say “most beautiful in the world” 8: Extremely beautiful without effort, could be a celebrity or model thru looks alone. 9: classic examples like Adrianna, Sean O pry, etc. People are very intimidated & in awe. So attractive you almost don’t even look real 10: This are probably the people you don’t even see on billboards bc Hollywood hasn’t been about to find them or recruit them. Gods/Goddesses among humans. They are are ppl you genuinely believe you will never find someone who looks better than them… regardless if it’s AI, paintings, celebrities, etc
I hate the “1-10” scale! In reality it’s more like 3 points: attractive, average, and below average. There’s no point in splitting hairs between who’s a 5 vs 7, or 8 vs 10. In real life you dont see an attractive person and think “that’s an 8/10”; you just think they’re attractive! If we’re going on first glance impressions, I would guess 30% of people are attractive (those who look good even in unflattering conditions), 60% are average(those who can look good/great with a bit of effort, but may be unremarkable otherwise), and only 10% are truly unattractive.
I wish I could be rated just out of curiosity. I think I’m a solid 5-5.5. But I’m too embarrassed to post a pic online to get rated and what if someone I know sees it and then thinks how lame I am for wanting to be rated by strangers lol.
I'm ugly and accepting that was probably the best thing I ever did. You really notice how many times people jump to insult looks - like ok, there's worse things to be than ugly.
A single eyeliner and a lipstick can change my rating. I consider myself a 5-6. But the dress i choose to wear and the make up can make me a 7 (but id rather call myself a 5 or a 6 because that's who I really am)
Hi QOVES! i don't know if you still do beauty analyzation on celebrities but if ever, I would recommend this British-Thai actress Becky Armstrong. There's something about her that feels refreshing and her face doesn't get mundane to look at. As always, love your educational quality content
High fashion favors unconventional unique looking faces pageants like more commercial looking women but commercial Modeling also likes more commercial faces
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-catSame but a way I try to think about it Is what part of your face don't you like the most? Forehead portion, middle (nose) or lower. Ex. If you don't like your nose then don't get a nose pericing. The eye would look at your nose before examing the rest or your face
If Henry Cavil is 10, Tom Hardy 8, Tom Holland 6, Michael Cera 4, where would you rate yourself? Having people to compare is way easier than saying a random number. That way, most people would probably land around 4-6 and not even close to the 7-10 people usually tell
If tom hardy is an 8 then my friend is a 9... Tom Hardy isn't that attractive. But if you compare to Tom Holland... Not sure 7 or 8. Does Tom Holland regularly get people telling him he looks good or "can get any girl he wants"?
I've heard that men generally like bigger eyes with an average or wide eye spacing, fuller lips, wider smiles, nice teeth, smaller noses, and nice (but not too toned) jawlines. I've heard that they also like women without acne that have nice eyebrows, a smaller waist, aren't too tall, have a healthy weight, and a nice hairstyle that suits them as well as a good sense of style. I'm probably a 4/10.
I’ve always found that people love things because of the beauty associated with it. Like beautiful exotic locations for tourism, puppies and cute animals, etc So maybe it’s very ingrained in our minds
what do u think about great leaders or inspirations who are average looking , I think u can compensate looks with success in ur life and just get your appearance good like grooming ,fashion, skincare etc@@iraqpestcontrol
The way I see it (as a pragmatist) is that the 1-10 scale is basically referring to percentiles, someone who's a 3 is in the 30th percentile, someone who's a 6 is in the 60th percentile and so on. That means that 10% of people are between a 9 and a 10, another 10% of people are between a 8 and a 9, and so on Imo being a 9 isn't about being close to perfection, to me it means being better looking than 90% of people I found a statistic from 2016 that shows that 68% of Americans are overweight, so by my definition if you're an American who isn't overweight you are pretty much at least a 7/10 in the US
Totally agree and that's the natural rating scale, not this gaussian thing that most people can never grt theirs heads around. On the percentage scale though, u probably need to build in that 9 is top 10 percent and leave room for tails, 9.5 being say top 1% and 9.7, top 0.1 % etc. But that's fine. It works, and is more intuitive for the entire planet apart from fringe looksmaxxing communities!
I love your videos, curious have you ever done a face reveal on what u look like? maybe u can do a video showing us your face and then rating yourself? would be a fun experiment
Agree about the one dimensionality problem. Most people have some nice features which increases your rating of them the more you know them. If you see someone for a few seconds vs if you know someone for years would change your response, I think.
i literally cannot perceive myself. i don’t even know what i look like. i cant ever see the full picture when i look at my face, and only know what my features look like. anyone else got this problem?
im pretty sure i will never see anyone as a 10 ever because i am just really good at finding mistakes. its kinda bad tbh, cause it makes me good at judging others. maybe it's influenced by the fact that i dont get feelings for people, cause i have no interest in them. i feel like everyone is just ugly and horrible at this point
@@Egolifter42069not even Megan Fox, Adriana Lima, Kate Winslet, Scarlett Johansson, Dakota Johnson, Ryan Reynolds, Brad Pitt when they were in their prime?
Your dating success, experiences and reactions in social life, the people that you can hook up with are your objective attractiveness level in terms of both physical and personality.
Disagree. It's how they feel when they're with you. Sophia Loren said something like.. it's one per cent of what you have and 90 per cent of what they think you have...
I'm in a similar camp with you. I'm androgynous with large, rounded features, high bones, and a narrow face, and I get roughly the same range of comments. Good news is that polarizing faces are striking, whether positive or negative, so the people who like your face will *really* like your face. Edit: never mind, I just took a peep at your channel out of pure curiosity, and you're stunning. We may both be polarizing, but in very different ways. (look at the video on this channel about features that are most important to being attractive, and you'll understand what I mean).
Beauty is distorted in the sense that we spend many waking hours looking at dozens of stunningly beautiful people on our TV screens. IRL, it is quite rare to come across people like that.
I rate myself a 0 until proven otherwise by how society treats me. When I get surgery I’m expecting to be at least a 5 and start seeing noticeable changes in the way people treat me
The way dating app algorithms are designed annoyed me a great deal. Tweaking only looks mostly benefits guys. I’ll explain. I’d never used these before, just won’t, hadn’t yet been lonely. Married, then not married and I am so exited I FINALLY get to do what I want and be left alone a bit! I’m a girl, BTW. My friends feared I’d lose “my second years” spending g money and partying around the world too long and that I need focus on going around a second time because I’d be 35 in four years. So I did sign up. It was horrible. I loved writing my profile essay bc it was a bit creative. I got that issue cited in the beginning of the video where too many people wrote in. I got so bored I went through a phase of responding to those who were really angry (about who or what? Just women) Angry: “do you ever tire of having to be a constant treat for your sugar daddy playthings?” (What he deduced I did bc I wrote I chose it to explain profession yet lol. Me: “Please refrain from the elder abuse today, John. Your profile indicates your mother’s not long for this world”. Enough anecdotes! Bro my original point! Dating sites just “assume” we are all looking for whomever is “in our looks league” or “slightly above”? I’m not! I want to create my own algorithm that found 0:01 my first husband - remove a few items and he was perfect. I guess out looks matched bc people thought we “just looked right together” Maybe a man is hot and he’s willing to deal with 0:01 mid-range looks and body if she’s business-capable MegWhitman or Carly Fiorina? What if these women are VERY SWAYED by 1/2 their age mates who make their CEO Lady Book Club super envious!?? AND these males are GUARANTEED to love remaining loyal? Let the subscribers decide! Bc their profiles do NOTHING in that regard. Probably too expensive for the mass market- this is old-fashion matchmaking. I think the real ones doing that… are the real deal. Everything else sux
Well as a girl who is in her twenties, that probably means that you actually are attractive but girls your age don't want to seem like they're being too forward by complimenting you. Older women are more secure with themselves (on average) so are more forthcoming with compliments and stuff
I’ve had this too. This woman used to work as a casting agent for a modelling company told me I should model. I’ve had other older women tell me to model too, but I never receive complements from men, or women my own age
Also a big problem in rating especially men and women is the main difference between cute, hot etc.. Furthermore some people can simply be rated as a,, 10"due to their pleasant appearance or harmony, but when rating features separately like eyes, mouth, fwhr etc, they might not be even close to a 10. So basically u have to define universal mathematical features and rating people based on that.. But this is basically not possible.. Therefore it is better to simply rate people by harmony, even though everyone has its own preferences.. This topic is basically unsolvable
A good indicator is to estimate the percentage of people you are better (or worse) looking than, say in a week, and then using the gauss curve to determine your rating.
This really doesn’t go into how we are measuring the rating system. Are we including all ages? Would a 20-year-old automatically rate higher than a 90-year-old? Or are we comparing the 90-year-old’s attractiveness to other 90-year-olds? If there are more babies than elderly people, would the “average” person be more attractive because babies and kids are cute and healthy? If we compared only 20-year-olds and lined them up from ugliest to prettiest, would we determine the rating of attractiveness by splitting the sample into 10 equal sections? If most people live in poverty, the average person with access to dental care and fresh fruit may automatically be a 7. Or are we instead deciding each number is designated to a certain level of attractiveness that we can measure? Maybe if you had hired me to be a content writer, your video would’ve been more comprehensive…
I don't know if it would be too controversial for a video, but I'd love to see one that talks about how heritable some of these traits are especially when mixed with unattractive ones. As someone that always wanted to be a mom, but falls as a 1-2, I wonder if all the bad traits I have would pass on or could someone else's good ones with out.
@@Me-eb3wv I'm adopted myself and see too many ethical issues with the adoption system for me to feel comfortable going that route. I recognize that it may be a good option for others though.
I highly doubt your genuinely a one. And it would be impossible to make a video like that because in genetics, just think of some families you've seen- some of the siblings can come out as 3s and other full blooded siblings can be 7s. . I think I'm a 6 but my sister is an 8. Genetic combinations are random and extremely unpredictable, there is no precise method to the madness Your children could possibly inherit your nose but their fathers lips, or vice versa, just as if you study your own face you can find similarities to one parent in some features and similarities to the other parent in other features, but on your sibling it could be completely opposite
@@Me-eb3wv soo she should adopt just bc she deems herself as unattractive? As if unattractive people shouldn't reproduce because coming out as unattractive would be a fate worse than death? Get over yourself
@@willowmalone9215 It's interesting that you mention the sibling aspect. Most of my sisters (half and full) I'd say fall around my score with one of the younger ones falling probably as a 4-5 thanks to genes from her father. However, my only full-blood brother I'd rank as higher than average facially. I don't know if it's because of better nutrition in utero or the fact that he's male and hormones helped him out more, but he's the lucky one in that regard.
Based on this video and the comments I've read, I reckon I'm a 4/10. My face is asymmetrical and I have a weak chin. I have received compliments from strangers but mainly for my hair and body - once for my face though haha
u ever consider fixing the chin? i think ramieri is pretty good and not too expensive in italy compared to american surgeons. if ur interested i have some knowledge.
You've still not understood that people don't use a Gaussian curve when rating on the 1-10 scale. They use school type garding, where giving less than 5 means failure, and where 7 is seen as an average score.
Hahaha I’d say I’m a 5.5 at best ! Looks are deceiving and fleeting - inner beauty should reign but in this aesthetic world we now live in how someone looks takes precedence over this ! At 55 years old now I don’t give a frick about attractiveness if someone is a demon underneath because for me it’s all about the inner beauty of one’s soul ! Ttfn;)
No but am I the only one who thinks rating ppl with mere numbers 1-10 is soo dumb like? If someone is good looking say that not damn she/he's a 10/10 like??? Idk something about rating people with numbers seems fucking dumb to me.
I could see why you think that BUT we must be objective here and objective universal beauty exist for a reason. For example a properly developed face with exceptional features would be considered a “9” on average by most ppl. We kind of have to base it on numbers. There’s no real other way to do it. Even subconsciously we rate ppl based on some sort of scale/comparison. Numbers are easier (personally) to visualize instead of trying to give a descriptive image of someone thats really attractive. For example a true “8” on average globally would be looked that way. Also once you start increasing the number scale say 1-20 it becomes quiet difficult to rate. 1-10 is best.
Perfect "10's" don't exist. A former competitive gymnast would easily say this. I think modeling scouts would be more accurate in their judgments. Cosmetic surgeons can literally point out ANY supposed imperfections and envision what improvements CAN be done. That is their job. It's not about what SHOULD be corrected. It's about what's POSSIBLE to correct and refine. Modeling scouts, for iconic brands or corporations and enterprises, go out searching for images/standards that best represent their brand. Their only objective is to make as money as possible. They need to be objective in choosing individuals for this reason. Playboy didn't choose "6" or "7" to pose for their pictorials/Playmates/centerfolds. Hooters says their brand has always been iconic. They're NOT going to send out company scouts/reps to look for "5" or "6" to work as Hooters Girls. We had to represent a specific standard IN PERSON - not in print! The Maxim girls were chosen because they looked phenomenal on camera. Again, they didn't choose "5" or "6" to pose regularly. Victoria's Secret Angels were such an idealistic standard; they expected their 6'0" fashion models to maintain an "unrealistic" 36-23-34 on such a tall frame.
Yeah but the average everyday woman wouldn't qualify for most of those jobs anyway that's why women in the top 10% percentile of looks work those jobs most people are average looking and comparing yourself to an above average person makes no sense
@@Model_Roe I was approached, working behind the booth in one of THE largest malls in the country, by two scouts/reps for Hooters - to work as a Hooters Girl. They told me they 'had been watching me from a distance' and that I was 'very pretty.' They handed me one of their limited cards to bring to THE grand opening of Hooters in the metropolitan area. I'm not in the "top ten percent," but I would think modeling/entertainment scouts for the Hooters brand are SIMILAR to Playboy in what they were looking for.
I mean ,i think 10 is subjective tbh,any human who has peak physical fitness and health and styles according to their body types and conforms to an individual's 'perfect' standard {pinnacle} they are 10/10 🧐,anyways beauty is really mysterious
@@gvsmani4810 I like knowing that more special beauty standards exist, or DID exist, and A FEW were able to naturally attain/maintain them - with little-to-no maintaineous (low maintenance is sexy). This includes professional swimsuit modeling measurements and a lean hourglass shape WITHOUT counting calories and watching portion sizes. A healthy appetite is sexy.
I don't think this scale is valid. We can objectively measure facial symmetry, skin clearness, good proportions etc - but not attractiveness. If somebody's got a specific type, a person that fits in that niche would be perceived as more attractive than a supermodel who doesn't. If you're into your ethnicity exclusively, a person of another skin color can't even compete with an average Joe, no matter how objectively good looking he/she is. And so on...
Agree 💯 which is why beauty is simultaneously objective and subjective people's personal preferences what is beautiful to them but that doesn't mean you or someone else is ugly and you're right people on average are going to rate someone of the same race or ethnicity as higher no matter how average looking objectively they are than someone outside of their race who is objectively speaking more attractive
The scale probably skews higher because everyone is getting hotter. So the average isn't the average of the current population, but the average of some fixed idea of beauty we have which is partially evolutionary (indicators of health and fertility) and partially societal (trends which are probably easier to change). I don't think these ideals change day to day. So if the ideal has stayed roughly the same, but overall attractiveness has increased due to better nutrition, hygiene, grooming, education etc, then more people will rank higher than the 'average'. Its really not a big deal. Everyone can be a 7 and all the examples shown are above the baseline acceptable attractiveness so I believe it.
I posted on one of the rating sub-reddits once (DON’T DO IT) but I was rated as an 8-8.5 and so was Jungkook in another post so I was happy with that. Fuelled my delusions that I was rated the same as him. 😅😤 I feel Ike gauging based on how well you are usually treated by strangers helps a lot. I was an ugly gawky kid and once I went though puberty it was like living in an alternate dimension.
studies have found that women that are 6’s and 7’s get hit on much more often than women who are 8’s and above because they seem more attainable. The men who do hit on the 8’s, 9’s and 10’s are basically the millionaires, male models/body builders, celebrities and the occasional pickup artist that just wants to try his luck but doesn’t really care to have a relationship. The reason men don’t try is: a) they think those women will reject them anyway (and they do) b) even if they end up getting them through sheer luck, they’ll have to cave in to every demand as the woman feels she did him a favor by “giving him a chance” c) it’s a pain to mate guard her from the guys that DO hit on her as they’re typically better than him in every way and thus you don’t have any leeway to make mistakes due to the easy availability of better options.
@@villapulla it depends on where. If it’s during the day time that just means you’re not a 7+. Hitting on women has social consequences now, so men don’t approach average women. If he’s gonna risk getting cancelled or arrested, might as well go for a hottie and hope he gets lucky….that’s what pickup artists do But if it’s like a club environment where approaching and hitting on women is acceptable, and no one still hits on yo despite the presence of single men then yes you’re below a 5
@@villapulla There's always dating apps to show you as well. If you swipe only on the hottest of guys and still get matches, then you ain't an uggo either
I find it easiest to judge my own attractiveness by instead assessing that of the suitors and how interested they are in a relationship not situationship but that’s just me
@@Sugabullets attractive men are easy to sleep with. If they have money/physique/intelligence they need much more than just looks in my experience. But yes, am aware it’s not foolproof.
@@gingerlykitten yeah you gotta stand out and honestly it's not that hard. Being family oriented, nurturing personality's, having a genuine interest/connection/vibe make you look past the superficial. And being nurturing does not mean men are looking for a mother, but does mean you will be a good one.
The first thing is to measure your look among your own people. To the lowest rating you will always be good looking among your own but this changes due to added factors. Good looking among your own from 1-10 is heavy influenced by models and good looking movie stars of the world. In truth everyone holds a scale of their own and there are different good looking looks. There are guys who have girl looks and guys who have a young cute look and then the guys with the handsome look. Believe it or not there is balanced good looks and imbalance as long as the extremes work to make a nice look.
Ranking of attractiveness is much more reliable than a number system. That's why Mark Zuckerberg's program at university made sense, always comparing the faces of two women. Honestly, here in Europe we are not used to this grading system that assumes a certain small percentage of excellent marks. If a class has lots of students doing excellently in a test then so be it. We would not think that 10/10 has to be exceptional.
There used to be a dating site called hot or not where you would rate other people's looks. After awhile of only getting rated a solid 5-6, you'd become suspicious of people rating you higher. So all the average people went on a lot of dates together 😂 once we accepted that we were mid, that is...
Sorry but who is included on the scale? If it is everyone in the world including older people (which is most of the population) than it makes sense that the average young person is a 7/10. If you are limiting the pool of people to just young people then an average of 5/10 is of course more accurate. If you ever ride a bus or walk down a street you will see why a person in your dating pool who you consider “average” is actually way more attractive than the actual average person you see in real life. The sample size makes all the difference in how people rank on the scale. If the sample size is everyone in the world an “average” young person in your dating pool will at the least be a 7/10.
And that's why because you can't determine with absolutely precision the rate of someone from 1 to 10 that you also can't determine what is the league of someone, only in situations that the difference in the appearence between two people is huge.
Apparently I'm more attractive than I am because I always rated myself lower and whenever I call myself average or ugly I get dumbfounded stares. In class last week I went in all done up and in my best everything and I sat in the back corner, a cute girl kept looking back towards the corner and I just thought there was something behind me, didn't even make eye contact until she started talking to me directly, but she was 17 and I'm 23 so... nah. Another girl that I worked with kept telling me I have "One of those tiktok guy faces" so maybe that's a bonus too. Don't forget the fact that a lot of attractive people will get bullied by average people due to jealousy, that can be a reason for why attractive people have lower self esteem.
Speaking of unconscious biases… I’ve noticed that you tend to show pretty brunettes with long hair when discussing 10s. I’ve rarely seen you display a gorgeous red head or a gorgeous dark complexioned girl etc. when referencing 10s… Just an FYI
The moment people know or assume something about you, they're biased and rate your attractiveness differently. It is a classical phenomena studied well by psychologists. When you say "it's a face of a serial killer", people describe it in one way (ugly, angry, scary), when you say "he's a doctor", people describe the same face as an easthetically pleasing, classy, kind, or caring. People's faces are multi-faceted, and only the beholder chooses where to focus their attention, and how to interpret what they see. Your appearance/attractiveness is how well you play with your own and people's biases. I'm okay with studying the biases, but pretending to be an authority that tells his audience which biases are the "correct" ones is rather disrespectful and toxic, so I have to unsubscribe
I mean couldn’t 7 be the average tho? Meaning the scale is wider than that reserving the 1-3s for (in the most respectful way) physically deformed people, 4-5s for generally unattractive people 6-7s for put together but still average people, and then 8s and 9s for people really putting an effort in their appearance and 10s for like genetically blessed people. Meaning that since most people put an effort they pass 5 or 6 to a 7 or 8, so the scale is relative not to the average number of people of a certain attractiveness, but like 1 being the most unattractive and 10 the most attractive and the in between is the distance of the two.
I’m the opposite haha. I’ve been told I could model (I definitely have the height) but rarely ever receive compliments about my appearance other than my smile
Long story short: * We see more attractive people due to social media. * Attractiveness should in theory follow a Gaussian distribution, but it could be skewed due to exogenous factors (incl. desire and effort to look good, money, plastic surgery). * 7 is the magic figure. Most people rate themselves as a 7 out of 10, and also consider it the threshold for dating. * Several cognitive biases prevent us from rating our attractiveness objectively. * Be better by being aware of biases, increasing your knowledge of what is attractiveness, training your eye.
If you use a gaussian scale, people rated 4 to 6 would look average. But for the school systems of many countries 4/10 means failure, while an average student will have a 7. I think that that's part of the reason why people rate themselves so "highly".
Precisely. Really excellent observation. Academic grading has skewed our perception of scaling and scoring.
What is 4-10 when the scale is from 1-10?
I think its not complicated its just that Americans are dumb. I was an exchange student in the US. People used calculators for the silliest calculations and were sooo behind compared to rest of the world. But they do learn what "average" means. No excuse. Its not about grades or anything. 1 to 10 middle is average. I wish people would stop giving that excuse. People say 6-7 because they dont want to believe they are average. They also deep down know so they stay close to the average and give themselves stuff like 6-7
@@thegalhorowitz It totally makes sense that the feelings people associate with those scores influence the way they rate their FEELINGS about how other people look. Let's not kid ourselves. There's absolutely no reason to expect everyone to take this thing as seriously as some people here do
@@Planet_India1under 4 is to low to even look at
Since I’ve learnt more about facial aesthetics from this channel I’ve become way more critical when evaluating faces and realise it’s super rare to actually see someone who would be in the 8-10 range. In a weird way you sort of appreciate it more when you do see it.
It's kind of sad really they were mathematically assessing people. There's more to people than how they look, and of course looks change and fade With Time
is there a celebrity you’d give an 8-10?
@iamrichlol true. But nobody ever approaches a stranger they deem unattractive. Most relationships are built on convenience and looks.
Okay
@@iamrichlolit's a rating of physical attractiveness only, so naturally it's going to only look at physical features and nothing else. Of course physical attractiveness is not the only way we decide if someone is attractive. Most people in real life will find a 6-7 attractive, don't let social media fool you into thinking otherwise. This channel also doesn't focus on body attractiveness, which is a significant component in how we judge physical attractiveness
I prefer the 1-3 scale to describe how attractive I see someone. 1. "unattractive". 2. Alright looking 3. Girls I think are cute. I can't really rank people objectively.
same honestly
Sameee
I might use this...
Yeah makes sense. Unattractive, Average, Attractive.
Makes more sense
I think a logical way to self asses one's own attractiveness is to just assume your a 5 out 10 until evidence proves otherwise. That evidence being, your interactions with other people, especially with the opposite sex. Statistically most of us are average. And theres nothing wrong with that.
Or you have deformity like me (undebite)
I agree, I think people just don't like the idea of being 5/10 it because they want to be separate from others. What most people don't take into account is that because average also has the largest number representation within a population (assuming normal distribution curve), naturally within that there will be large variation of features, and some people may like some '5s' over others because of that.
I also feel like 90% of people can be at least a functional 7/10 if they actually put in decent effort. Wearing clothes that compliment your figure, improving gender-neutral attractive qualities e.g. skin, teeth/jaw, fitness/physique, working on being confident in social settings...all these things contribute holistically to your attractiveness. As a guy I can say many other men don't make any real effort to improve on these things. Even if you're average in terms of baseline genetics, just addressing one or two of them already puts you way ahead of most other 5/10s
@@DrAlchem01 I agree with all you said except by the 90% can be a 7/10, 'cause that's impossible. 5/10 is already 50% of general population but alot of them have a potential to be a 6 like above average which means pretty/handsome faces but not an outliner from the rest. 7s is where it starting to be extreme like someone can be like a model by that.
@@maciekwozniak4060bro you got extremely beutiful eyes 💛
@@maciekwozniak4060 An unberbite isn't a major deformity. There's several ways to fix it
I don't think there's an oversaturation of good looking people on social media. I think a lot of people just use filters and photoshop.
Plus lighting and angles. It's become far too easy for anyone to fake it on the internet. The reason you don't see people that look that good out in the real world is largely because even those people don't look that good in reality.
@@rosethorn0232 exactly!
But that would be a contributor to the oversaturation of attractive people, even though they are using filters, photoshop and other tools as 80% of people use them that would create the oversaturation, that doesn't mean that those individuals are physically attractive in real life on the contrary that would create this dissonance between what we see on the internet and what we see in real life
attractive people are pushed onto the front page, the algorithm isn't going to recommend and show your unattractive people
Exactly 💯
Beauty is used as a currency; jealous people are competitive and resentful. Being focused on the material world is going to lead to misery.
I agree with the sentiment of what your saying, but wouldn't say focus on the material world is the problem. I would tweak your statement and say *obsession* with the material world leads to misery. Focusing on enriching relationships; cultivating *contentment* with your life and your self, rather than trying to bounce from moment to moment of temporary happiness.
Focusing on the material is necessary to an extent. Several studies show that the 'halo effect' is a real thing, and affects lives in very palpable ways including job prospects & earning potential. If looking good allows you to make more money, and in turn provide for your family better, then it absolutely makes sense to invest in that with either time or money, in the same way it makes perfect sense to work towards qualifications that would have a similar impact on your income
@@DrAlchem01 yes
@@paul562a 6’3 handsome man might get a more consistent life but women have a much higher opportunity to use their beauty. You can’t really compare men and women in this case because even a fat woman in the west will get more matches than even the most attractive male model
Facts 💯🎯
Well beauty is a currency because it is wanted and scarce.
To be fair, I think the 1-10 scale is very good at determining a general gauge of attractiveness because I don't think most people think too deeply into what they find attractive or not.
Same. At a certain point it becomes similar to art. Someone may like Pollock over Michelangelo. Both can be good and at the end of the day the point is that it's your opinion.
If you are talking about the 'first impression', I definitely agree with you, the Halo Effect also plays a huge role
Quoves showed all these clips of Americans but then ignored a big factor… In the USA we have been raised in to think 7 is passing but not above average. So when these Americans give themselves a 7 they are saying that they are “passing” or average. I bet if you asked them a letter grade for their looks most would say C or B.
A 90-100% 4.0
B 80-89% 3.0
C 70-79% 2.0
D 60-69% 1.0
F 0-59% 0.0
interesting way of looking at this
as an Italian, our grading system is from 3 to 10, passing point is 6, so when people. are asked about attractiveness most people rate themselves a 7 which is above passing point, so it makes sense.
Yeah. He focuses way more on what he thinks the data should look, rather than how it actually looks, which is ironic considering he frames himself as being objective and just looking at data.
He cites a study that people 1/3 of people self-report a 7/10 but curiously, he doesn't cite a study of what is the most common reported rating when people rate others. I have a feeling it is probably 7 rather than a 5 that he thinks it should be. It's a glaring omission since I don't know if a 7 is a wild disreprcancy for when people self report, or if it is inline with how they rate others as well.
It's amazing how stupid Americans are if not able to realize that 5 is in the middle on 1-10 scale, hence to be taken as average. Lol.
Why people rate themselves a 7/10 has been covered : ruclips.net/video/WCT2Ocnzp7U/видео.html
Can you make a video on facial expressions and facial muscles? How some people look really graceful while they talk and others are extremely expressive. And also how that affects the perception of symmetry (like someone smiling more on one side unintentionally) and so on
I GOTTA KNOW THIS! i’m averagely “attractive” (big round eyes, small nose, average mouth, straight teeth) but i’m REALLY expressive (eyebrows, mouth and eyes always moving and really exaggerated). I relate a lot to Emilia Clarke and Drew Barrymore bcs they also have this tendency. On them I find it cute/endearing. But on me I find it terrible and really unattractive.
This. I have decent features but when smiling I have a droopy nose and makes me go “huh? Is that my nose moments ago before I showed my teeth?”
So many details and minute specifics like muscle attachment that really has huge impact are understated
YESSS I have AWFUL face expressions and I tend to regress a lot of it to look better😭😭😩
Oo I find this super interesting, and I’d definitely watch a video essay o n this topic ! One thing I’ve been noticing a lot is when, in books, they describe someone as having an easy smile. The first person irl I can think of is Sam Claflin. On the other hand, I feel like I sometime look as if it takes a lot of effort for me to smile big. Maybe bc of my mouth shape/size, but it’s weird to think about for too long lol
Would love to see this covered, but from what I gather a lot of people are dominantly expressive on the side they sleep on.
One thing that is left out completely in this video is age. Do you judge yourself only compared to your own age group? Or against all age groups? Changes the results significantly.
I’m personally just appalled at how easy people are willing to rate strangers on social media for everyone to see without taking the other person’s feeling in consideration. I just wouldn’t be able to do that. Same with rating myself. It’s just horrible.
is it weird to consider getting work done because of being butchered on the rateme and trm subs? because that's my case now...
That's messed up. I looked at your pfp and you are so handsome. You have to also understand that these rateme subs and trm subs are also infested with people with low esteem and get joy out of making weird comments. I truly hope you see how good looking you are brother.@@christopherxiangchu
i appreciate it man, i only looks that way when i smile since it hides my recessed chin. When i don't smile my chin becomes recessed tbh@@tahirrizwan6759
I agree with this if the rating is unprompted, but if you ask one, should be truthful as it is the best way to get an accurate assessment.
Reality doesn't care about your feelings.
I have never understood why people considered 5 ugly when it’s literally dead in the middle of the scale. But then again, for most people, being just average doesn’t feel “good enough” at all-especially when we constantly see all those gorgeous people on social media, on TV, and in movies.
A 5 is ugly. How r3tarded do you have to be to not understand that?
Isn’t good enough? Then why are you alive? You should be living your life for improvement. Being in the middle is not okay. It will never be okay. A 5 is the worst thing you can be
@@squidwardt0rtellini 5 is average nothing is bad with that. Yes, u can improve your lifestyle but bffr no one can change their genes. Lean body but if the face is a 5, still a 5.
@@squidwardt0rtellini honestly no. being deformed and poor is worse
@@christopherxiangchu shut up. this is exactly what a 5 would say
Its really strange when I see those interviews on the street and so many people consider 7/10 the average and that's what they rate themselves when they realistically are a 4 or 5.
I am really curious to understand why so many people believe that 7 is the average. As if the rating chart was from 5-10 instead of 1-10. People seem to get extremely offended when someone is called a 6 or something (as if that doesn't mean they are higher than 50% of everyone else).
Americans don't understand what the word average means, and are more likely to get their feelings hurt talking about their appearance than some other places in the world. I've seen these type of street rating videos done in Japan and every girl ranked themselves a 5 or 6 and said they were about average. I don't think it's lower self esteem, they were just more honest.
@@rosethorn0232 Its the American grading system, where
@@rosethorn0232 That’s true. Ig I East Asians also have a reputation for being honest about looks (like telling ppl they are fat or ugly or too dark, etc) so it makes sense their answers actually make sense.
Because Americans are looks obsessed so to admit to yourself that more than half the population is better looking than you is an ego blow almost worse than death
We are used to being graded in school, where getting a 4/10 is failure and an average student will probably get a 7/10
I've found that a good way to gauge your own attractiveness is that girls who seem to really capture my attention and appear to me as 9s and make me feel deep infatuation are actually 5-6s that seem genuinely attainable and have some quality about them I really like. Something about the feeling of attainability must be inherent in our own attractiveness. Thus I believe my attractiveness to be around a 6.
Same. And fine with that, the problem lies when beauty is on the top of the your list of qualities/priorities. Then you get some really petty people 😂
The problem with this is... what if an (objectively, as in with facial measurements) unattractive individual is deeply infatuated with a very attractive individual? Your whole theory falls apart really quickly.
So what u mean is that you prefer more attainable girls??
Best way to measure ur attractiveness
@@mar1nn998studies have found that women that are 6’s and 7’s get hit on much more often than women who are 8’s and above because they seem more attainable.
The men who do hit on the 8’s, 9’s and 10’s are basically the millionaires, male models/body builders, celebrities and the occasional pickup artist that just wants to try his luck but doesn’t really care to have a relationship.
The reason men don’t try is:
a) they think those women will reject them anyway (and they do)
b) even if they end up getting them through sheer luck, they’ll have to cave in to every demand as the woman feels she did him a favor by “giving him a chance”
c) it’s a pain to mate guard her from the guys that DO hit on her as they’re typically better than him in every way and thus you don’t have any leeway to make mistakes due to the easy availability of better options.
Rating people based on attractiveness kinda has no point and is superficial but we live in a superficial world generally and I understand where it comes from.With good posture and good hygiene, clothes anyone can look at least decent I would say.
True, Americans are psycho
It matters more for women than men a man who's ugly or unconventional looking can still have a high SMV depending on how much money and power he has eg Jeff Bezos or Mark Zuckerberg who most women would admit if they didn't have wouldn't find them attractive if they didn't have the wealth and resources they have but for a woman to climb up that socioeconomic ladder looks play more into that because heterosexual men on average value looks more as opposed to women
@@Model_Roe Yeah I think you are right in some way, women are treated better/worse when it comes to looks if a woman doesn't have the "looks"she is more judged unfortunately.
I think anybody can look clean but decent or attractive is a big stretch.😅
Good posture & hygiene? That shit doesn’t matter. You’re appearance will always be reduced from 1-10 because our value is just a number
I would give myself a 6 or 5.6 I don't consider myself ugly nor am I too insecure about my looks but I find other people more attractive then me. Also yeah I noticed it too that the more I spend my time on the internet I see extremely attractive people I'd give them a 10 but I know that half of them have gotten some plastic surgery whereas when I go out most people are average looking.
Good
@@mar1nn998 good?
5.6 - strangely specific
@@willowmalone9215 I mean I dont know that's how I think I dont have pretty features I'm just average looking
@@willowmalone9215 sounds specific but I didnt put much thought to and just wrote 5.6. 😄
It’s actually very funny how my own perceived attractiveness went down as a actually got more attractive. I always though myself as a 6 even though I was a 3 or 4 realisticly. I was skinnyfat, puffy face, had a terrible haircut and acne as well as yellow theeth. Now I think I am a 5 or 5.5 realisticly because I know pretty well of my flaws. But I don’t think it’s much higher than that realisticly. Hanging around with attractive people certainly helped me to put my self into my place.
I also think don’t think that 5/10 is a bad rating. If your a 5/10 you have a normal or solid face to look at. Half of people your age look better and the other half looks worse than you. Your absolutely fine with being a 5/10 facially. I think I am a 5/10 facially and I have still have a beautiful girlfriend with a great personality that loves me, my personality and my average looking face. Also I am still improving my looks to maybe become 6 or even 7 facially and being 6‘3 (190cm) gives me an additional confidence boost. So I am not mad about my appearance.
@@thxcaze1416 BRO YOU'RE TALL WOW
@@thxcaze1416the fact that you’re 6’3 alone makes you a 7. And the fact that you downplay your own looks screams like fishing for compliments
@@thxcaze1416ur hot loll
You're a 7.5 on an objective scale but i could see a lot of girls thinking you're a 9/10-10/10 because one can still be considered attractive without having an beautiful face
Someone else mentioned this, but in many G7 countries not many countries in general, 7/10 is kinda the average grade people get, while 5/10 is barely passing and anything below that like a 3 or 4/10 would be failing. I think this is a very good point
I just wanted to address how much I appreciate your content. Ever since I stumbled upon this channel I managed to piece together a lot of elements regarding people’s physique. A lot of the things which contribute to people’s attractiveness or its lack of often is not spoken out, hence people really tend to be imprecise with their ratings of themselves and other people. I believe that actually knowing the right criteria for being attractive simply makes it easier to work on your appearance ( in case you want to, of course)
It may lead you to making small changes in style and improving some other minor details which may bump up your “number” to a point or even two
Thanks for putting all of this info out there!
I always saw the scale as 5=not especially ugly nor attractive/no opinion, 4 or less unattractive, and 6+ attractive. I think it’s fair to say that many people these days have something attractive about them, so the higher ratings may be warranted. That’s just the way I see it though.
I'm definitely mid like 5-6 just an average lookin person and the thing is I'm not mad about it, like sure yeah it would be nice to be attractive, but I was delt my hand and my life still goes on and I'm still enjoying the things I do in my life. It's hard to be satisfied, no one is ever really satisfied, but continuing to reach unattainable things only hurts your mental state. Live a good life with what you've been given, and you will find some satisfaction in that.
Average doesn't mean unattractive - it just means not exceptionally or unexceptionally so. 🙂
Being average is not a bad thing, bro and yeah, for most people it's impossible for them to be exceptionally beautiful but life is more than that. It doesn't mean you're a worthless human. You can focus on other things that also matters and makes you happy.
@@reve605 Yes. It does. Average=worthless. You are a vapid dumbasss
You’re probably way uglier than you think. You should probably work on that
I wouldnt be able to put people on a scale at all but when talking about this topic I always differentiate between people that are objectively „really good looking“ and „people I am attracted to“. They CAN overlap but more often than not they dont. Most often people I find genuinely attractive are people who are my own type face wise plus a nice body shape.
I believe facial attractiveness is much more subjective than body.
i love you for telling people that the scale normally use had no credibility and will only just warp your standard of what is beautiful and what is not
So, in the past I’ve had the pleasure of having TWO extremely attractive friends. Both male and female.
The male, according to him, was routinely hit on by his mom’s friends, girls, and was regularly flirted with, and even was given numbers from random girls when he worked as a cashier in high school. Even one “MILF” gave her number.
The girl, also admitted to being hit on many times, even by a couple male teachers. Countless approaches, flirts, and didn’t have to pay for her meal at fast food joints on two occasions.
Both of them have stated to me in one way or the other, the best way to sort of GAUGE how attractive you are in real life….is simply the number of compliments you’ve received from strangers.
Not family, not friends, strangers or people you barely know. From the opposite sex, for the most part. They have no incentive to lie to you.
If you’ve received A LOT (more than you can count on two hands at least) by 21ish, you’re exceptional. Top tier
A handful by the same age, maybe above average “6-7”
One or two in your life up to that point? Likely plain average or just barely above it.
One or none at all? Average at best and under.
It’s just a simple measure. It doesn’t take into account massive (natural) glow ups, or people who were hermits and never went out and socialized and talked to people.
But in THEIR experiences, and for the most part, being extremely attractive, and in addition to having more attractive friends too, this was their conclusions. The sheer amount of compliments from total strangers, or people you barely know, or the classic, “My friend thinks you’re hot….”
It’s just a simple gauge, nothing more. But to them, it’s shown to be effective.
Interesting theory but I think this is somewhat flawed because girls compliment each other a lot more than guys..,
also with the way quoves rates i estimate he'd rate me 6 (or 7 at best) in the flesh yet over the years i've had several women approach me in the street. one approached me and immediately asked if she could come back to my place. I am a 6 or 7 at best!
I think external attention isn't solely based on physical attractiveness, I think some people for whatever reason just get more attention than others...
21 is super young though? they only have 3 years into their adult life and anything before that is beyond weird if it’s coming from anyone outside of their age
Does it count if they were on dating apps?
In my country strangers don't talk to you as it's not acceptable
And when you not 21 anymore? I'am 41 and when I go out for dancing I'am being normally every time approached several times during one evening. But what does that mean. Maybe I'm just a good dancer... Maybe they just want to hook up... Maybe they think I'am easy to have? Which is not true... I don't know, if it is that easy.
I think it’s cool to learn about facial aesthetics!! ALSO…..we’ve entered a new period in human history…..we are all becoming narcissistic as all. And although I see the benefits of this RUclips channel, as it helps people make better choices…..it simultaneously contributes to the ever increasing wide-spread narcissism we see today. Comparing yourself to others DOES make you unhappy.
So is this channel helpful? Maybe.
But even science has become fucking narcissistic. We have lost touch with ourselves. Humanity is going down a dark path….and it’s really sad to be alive during this time 😢
Only you can make yourself happy. No one will save you.
I agree so much, the obsession with things like objective beauty (having engaged with this content for 3 years myself) will only make people more selfish and vain
@@babbie5163 that's so true, that's why i have a problem with this channel... I don't think it is helpful at all to look at our beauty "objectively" in the way this channel does. Just like that looksmaxxing trend or whatever it is called..
We should embrace our natural features and stop being so obsessed with how people perceive our appearence, that's the only way to be truly happy with ourselves. The most beautiful people i have ever seen could be rated a 3 based on these standards of this channel, but it's because this channel ignores the subjectivity of beauty and the way we perceive it.
We should above all be kind to ourselves and others and realize that "objective" beauty, in the end, doesn't really matter at all. Looking at beauty the way this channel does makes us superficial, obsessed, sad, and blind to the things that really matter.
I personally think of attractiveness as a combination of Cute, Pretty and Sexy.
Someone can be a 9 7 0 or a 2 0 9. And how attractive you find them physically depends on how important each metric is to your personal taste.
And you could expand it with a +/- number for Quirky/Funny/Je ne sais quoi. Cause there are definitely people whose looks fall outside of these numbers as well.
too much work, smash or pass does the job
@@gfueladdict5655 fair tbh
Beauty is objective and subjective there is what you find beautiful personally and what's been scientifically proven to be beautiful objectively they are not one in the same and the reality is most people are average looking there is nothing wrong with that very few people are in that top percentile of looks and most of them live in large cities
Could you elaborate on the difference between Cute and Pretty?
I'm a 5 or 5.5 most days, at my best I'm a 6.
And do you know what? The majority of people are in the 4-6 range, it's just not polite to honestly rate each other out of ten so everybody gets blanket rated as '7' unless they are 7 or above in which case they get rated 9 or 10.
sometimes i see a lot of comments of people saying they started feeling bad about themselves the longer they watch this channel.. everything he says is still subjective- none of it matters. If anything if you find yourself feeling more insecure because of these videos i’d stop watching.
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These videos make me more aware of how handsome I am, but I can see how others would feel more insecure.
Yeah. I can't help but see how ugly/asymmetrical my face is in the mirror now. I'm obsessed with these tiny errors on my face :/ and take multiple pics of them to just stare at them lol
Most people overrate themselves why they feel bad the reality is most people are average looking there is nothing wrong with that but people get insulted when you call them average
Running from the truth like a coward😅
Honestly most people can improve a lot by just losing weight or getting more toned (the vast majority of Americans fall into this camp.) once you get out of needing to improve your body territory, you can tell whether you need plastic surgery to live a better life. I need to be slim, have lip fillers (lips of a British man) and I would benefit from rhinoplasty (wouldn’t be able to find the time for it or money and I’m scared) and a botox brow lift (next on my list of to dos) and braces to fix my teeth.
I personally think most people would be 5.5-6.5 range just with optimal physiques, with the truly beautiful being 7.5+.
Facts
Losing weight doesn’t automatically make someone look better. There are a lot of ugly skinny people out there. Stop spreading bullshitt
I would rate my self a 3 😂 but the most funniest thing is when u reject a guy after he calls u cute and stuff and then he randomly tells u that you’re a 5 and ur ugly 😂 like okay thanks I thought I was a 3 but 5?! Damn 😂
You are beautiful.
u ain’t no damn 3 tf.😂
In my view:
1-3: very unattractive
4: below average, invisible
5: average looking, invisible, both flaws & beauty traits cancel each other out so neither are memorable
6: plainly pretty, somewhat more beauty traits that 5
7: noticeably beautiful & obviously attractive, but people would hesitate to say “most beautiful in the world”
8: Extremely beautiful without effort, could be a celebrity or model thru looks alone.
9: classic examples like Adrianna, Sean O pry, etc. People are very intimidated & in awe. So attractive you almost don’t even look real
10: This are probably the people you don’t even see on billboards bc Hollywood hasn’t been about to find them or recruit them. Gods/Goddesses among humans. They are are ppl you genuinely believe you will never find someone who looks better than them… regardless if it’s AI, paintings, celebrities, etc
would it be worth it to get to 7.5 from being a 5-6 through surgery?
My personal definition for 10/10 is Monica Belluci. She looks so exquisite it's unreal. I imagine Helen to look like her.
10s exist on and off the screen. They are the functuonal equivalent of meeting somebody with an IQ of 170...i.e....aint gonna meet one very often.
I hate the “1-10” scale! In reality it’s more like 3 points: attractive, average, and below average.
There’s no point in splitting hairs between who’s a 5 vs 7, or 8 vs 10. In real life you dont see an attractive person and think “that’s an 8/10”; you just think they’re attractive!
If we’re going on first glance impressions, I would guess 30% of people are attractive (those who look good even in unflattering conditions), 60% are average(those who can look good/great with a bit of effort, but may be unremarkable otherwise), and only 10% are truly unattractive.
I wish I could be rated just out of curiosity. I think I’m a solid 5-5.5. But I’m too embarrassed to post a pic online to get rated and what if someone I know sees it and then thinks how lame I am for wanting to be rated by strangers lol.
if you want to get rated, then don't be afraid to show your face. If you think you are a 5 then no one will make fun of you for being average :)
I'm in the same boat except I think I'm at solid 4-5
I think it's a good idea for video about what in common every beauty standard have
I'm ugly and accepting that was probably the best thing I ever did. You really notice how many times people jump to insult looks - like ok, there's worse things to be than ugly.
A single eyeliner and a lipstick can change my rating. I consider myself a 5-6. But the dress i choose to wear and the make up can make me a 7 (but id rather call myself a 5 or a 6 because that's who I really am)
Hi QOVES! i don't know if you still do beauty analyzation on celebrities but if ever, I would recommend this British-Thai actress Becky Armstrong. There's something about her that feels refreshing and her face doesn't get mundane to look at. As always, love your educational quality content
Could you make a video on the differences in beauty standards between runway modeling and beauty paegents?
High fashion favors unconventional unique looking faces pageants like more commercial looking women but commercial Modeling also likes more commercial faces
Great suggestion! I think pageant girls are “prettier” than runway models. I hope they make a video about it
One of these facial analysis things could probably help you decide what kind of facial piercing would compliment best.
Oh that would make a good video
@kvrktvjcdgv3853 Id watch that, I'm rly indecisive about piercings, and I've had ones I liked on others not work for me.
@@Reverse_Cowgirl-catSame but a way I try to think about it Is what part of your face don't you like the most? Forehead portion, middle (nose) or lower. Ex. If you don't like your nose then don't get a nose pericing. The eye would look at your nose before examing the rest or your face
Facial pericing could either make your face uneven or even , using faux pericngs could help decied too
piercings are ugly unless they are away from your face ( ears)
It started with the 1978 movie "10" Staring Bo Derek. The guy rated her a perfect 10 out of 10.
If Henry Cavil is 10, Tom Hardy 8, Tom Holland 6, Michael Cera 4, where would you rate yourself? Having people to compare is way easier than saying a random number. That way, most people would probably land around 4-6 and not even close to the 7-10 people usually tell
Tom hardy is a 7 max
If tom hardy is an 8 then my friend is a 9... Tom Hardy isn't that attractive. But if you compare to Tom Holland... Not sure 7 or 8. Does Tom Holland regularly get people telling him he looks good or "can get any girl he wants"?
I'd rate Henry a 7 Tom Hardy a 6 Tom Holland a 5 and Michael Cera a 4
@@Havana428. Henry is a 7 he's conventionally attractive but just slightly above average he's no Brad Pitt and that's no shade
@@Model_Roeif henry cavill is your 7, who is 10 for you?! Henry is a perfect 11 for me !
I've heard that men generally like bigger eyes with an average or wide eye spacing, fuller lips, wider smiles, nice teeth, smaller noses, and nice (but not too toned) jawlines. I've heard that they also like women without acne that have nice eyebrows, a smaller waist, aren't too tall, have a healthy weight, and a nice hairstyle that suits them as well as a good sense of style. I'm probably a 4/10.
Its a sad fact of humanity that you need to be nice looking in this world i dont cRe what anyone says
Not really maybe for social settings/getting in a lasting relationship otherwise it really isn’t THAT important
I’ve always found that people love things because of the beauty associated with it. Like beautiful exotic locations for tourism, puppies and cute animals, etc
So maybe it’s very ingrained in our minds
Blame God lol
Looks is everything
what do u think about great leaders or inspirations who are average looking , I think u can compensate looks with success in ur life and just get your appearance good like grooming ,fashion, skincare etc@@iraqpestcontrol
The way I see it (as a pragmatist) is that the 1-10 scale is basically referring to percentiles, someone who's a 3 is in the 30th percentile, someone who's a 6 is in the 60th percentile and so on. That means that 10% of people are between a 9 and a 10, another 10% of people are between a 8 and a 9, and so on
Imo being a 9 isn't about being close to perfection, to me it means being better looking than 90% of people
I found a statistic from 2016 that shows that 68% of Americans are overweight, so by my definition if you're an American who isn't overweight you are pretty much at least a 7/10 in the US
Totally agree and that's the natural rating scale, not this gaussian thing that most people can never grt theirs heads around. On the percentage scale though, u probably need to build in that 9 is top 10 percent and leave room for tails, 9.5 being say top 1% and 9.7, top 0.1 % etc. But that's fine. It works, and is more intuitive for the entire planet apart from fringe looksmaxxing communities!
Sir, your voice is so calming
in school, 5/10 is failing and 7/10 is just passing. i think thats why people rate themselves a 7 if they think they are ok looking
I love your videos, curious have you ever done a face reveal on what u look like? maybe u can do a video showing us your face and then rating yourself? would be a fun experiment
Agree about the one dimensionality problem. Most people have some nice features which increases your rating of them the more you know them. If you see someone for a few seconds vs if you know someone for years would change your response, I think.
i literally cannot perceive myself. i don’t even know what i look like. i cant ever see the full picture when i look at my face, and only know what my features look like. anyone else got this problem?
Yes but girl ur pretty maybe not conventionally but if that’s u in pfp then i think ur pretty
When applied to other people it's called prosopagnosia.
Yup. Do you also look different in every single picture??
Maybe facial dysmorphia ?
Your eyes are massive, they are beautiful!
One of my boys is a 9/10. It insane going out to bars with him hot women will just come up to him.
How is his personality?
I think that will someone a 10/10 in my book
@@fatemad4012whatever it is will still work
@@fatemad4012 he’s a good guy.
@@Egolifter42069 someone so good looking especially a guy can have personality?
It is sad that most people tend to overestimate their attractiveness, because most people do not like their looks a lot.
i'm a 5 and im okay with that! people understimate how good looking a 7-8 actually are, not to mention 8+
im pretty sure i will never see anyone as a 10 ever because i am just really good at finding mistakes. its kinda bad tbh, cause it makes me good at judging others. maybe it's influenced by the fact that i dont get feelings for people, cause i have no interest in them. i feel like everyone is just ugly and horrible at this point
There are no 10s
sad :(
@@Egolifter42069not even Megan Fox, Adriana Lima, Kate Winslet, Scarlett Johansson, Dakota Johnson, Ryan Reynolds, Brad Pitt when they were in their prime?
@@Jeniffer61867Scarlett isn't as attractive as Megan
@@Jeniffer61867 Scarlet, Dakota and Ryan are far from a 10 but they for sure are beautiful but not extreme.
Your dating success, experiences and reactions in social life, the people that you can hook up with are your objective attractiveness level in terms of both physical and personality.
Disagree. It's how they feel when they're with you. Sophia Loren said something like.. it's one per cent of what you have and 90 per cent of what they think you have...
I kind of disagree. Men on average will hook up with women considered ugly or unattractive if given the chance. I even asked men, and I was shocked.
Ahh I've always wanted this video cant explain how grateful iam to you
I've never used a number scale and I never will. Either I find a woman attractive or I don't. I would consider it disrespect to call a woman a number.
i have to write ~5 essays but here i am watching the vid 😭 im jus too interested in beaty
People either really like my face or they think my features are way too sharp and masculine. There's no middle ground.
I'm in a similar camp with you. I'm androgynous with large, rounded features, high bones, and a narrow face, and I get roughly the same range of comments.
Good news is that polarizing faces are striking, whether positive or negative, so the people who like your face will *really* like your face.
Edit: never mind, I just took a peep at your channel out of pure curiosity, and you're stunning. We may both be polarizing, but in very different ways.
(look at the video on this channel about features that are most important to being attractive, and you'll understand what I mean).
Beauty is distorted in the sense that we spend many waking hours looking at dozens of stunningly beautiful people on our TV screens. IRL, it is quite rare to come across people like that.
I've been waiting for a video like this
Saying I need a trained eye for beauty is just bullshit
Like…
I gotta find out when a broad I think is ugly is actually a 10?
I rate myself a 0 until proven otherwise by how society treats me. When I get surgery I’m expecting to be at least a 5 and start seeing noticeable changes in the way people treat me
The way dating app algorithms are designed annoyed me a great deal. Tweaking only looks mostly benefits guys. I’ll explain.
I’d never used these before, just won’t, hadn’t yet been lonely.
Married, then not married and I am so exited I FINALLY get to do what I want and be left alone a bit! I’m a girl, BTW. My friends feared I’d lose “my second years” spending g money and partying around the world too long and that I need focus on going around a second time because I’d be 35 in four years. So I did sign up. It was horrible. I loved writing my profile essay bc it was a bit creative. I got that issue cited in the beginning of the video where too many people wrote in. I got so bored I went through a phase of responding to those who were really angry (about who or what? Just women) Angry: “do you ever tire of having to be a constant treat for your sugar daddy playthings?” (What he deduced I did bc I wrote I chose it to explain profession yet lol. Me: “Please refrain from
the elder abuse today, John. Your profile indicates your mother’s not long for this world”.
Enough anecdotes! Bro my original point! Dating sites just “assume” we are all looking for whomever is “in our looks league” or “slightly above”? I’m not! I want to create my own algorithm that found 0:01 my first husband - remove a few items and he was perfect. I guess out looks matched bc people thought we “just looked right together”
Maybe a man is hot and he’s willing to deal with 0:01 mid-range looks and body if she’s business-capable MegWhitman or Carly Fiorina? What if these women are VERY SWAYED by 1/2 their age mates who make their CEO Lady Book Club super envious!?? AND these males are GUARANTEED to love remaining loyal?
Let the subscribers decide! Bc their profiles do NOTHING in that regard. Probably too expensive for the mass market- this is old-fashion matchmaking. I think the real ones doing that… are the real deal. Everything else sux
Wow. That was 12 minutes of not really saying anything. Lol.
I feel like a lot of his videos are like this but I still watch them 😂
@@raleemay FR
@@raleemayyou contribute to the problem then you obviously see something valuable if you keep watching stop trying to be edge
Older women (strangers/coworkers) tend to give me compliments while girls my age don’t. What can I gather from this?
Well as a girl who is in her twenties, that probably means that you actually are attractive but girls your age don't want to seem like they're being too forward by complimenting you. Older women are more secure with themselves (on average) so are more forthcoming with compliments and stuff
Thag makes sense thx 4 the input frenz
I’ve had this too. This woman used to work as a casting agent for a modelling company told me I should model. I’ve had other older women tell me to model too, but I never receive complements from men, or women my own age
Because younger women your age see you as competition older women tend not to care and can be more objective
Also a big problem in rating especially men and women is the main difference between cute, hot etc.. Furthermore some people can simply be rated as a,, 10"due to their pleasant appearance or harmony, but when rating features separately like eyes, mouth, fwhr etc, they might not be even close to a 10. So basically u have to define universal mathematical features and rating people based on that.. But this is basically not possible.. Therefore it is better to simply rate people by harmony, even though everyone has its own preferences.. This topic is basically unsolvable
A good indicator is to estimate the percentage of people you are better (or worse) looking than, say in a week, and then using the gauss curve to determine your rating.
This really doesn’t go into how we are measuring the rating system. Are we including all ages? Would a 20-year-old automatically rate higher than a 90-year-old? Or are we comparing the 90-year-old’s attractiveness to other 90-year-olds? If there are more babies than elderly people, would the “average” person be more attractive because babies and kids are cute and healthy?
If we compared only 20-year-olds and lined them up from ugliest to prettiest, would we determine the rating of attractiveness by splitting the sample into 10 equal sections? If most people live in poverty, the average person with access to dental care and fresh fruit may automatically be a 7. Or are we instead deciding each number is designated to a certain level of attractiveness that we can measure?
Maybe if you had hired me to be a content writer, your video would’ve been more comprehensive…
After watching your videos, I will always say I’m a solid 5. I’d rather have other people tell me I score higher than the score I give myself
i’ve been told i’m a 9/10 by a girl who bullies people as “jokes.” made me a lot more confident.
I don't know if it would be too controversial for a video, but I'd love to see one that talks about how heritable some of these traits are especially when mixed with unattractive ones. As someone that always wanted to be a mom, but falls as a 1-2, I wonder if all the bad traits I have would pass on or could someone else's good ones with out.
That’s extremely valid but if that’s the case why not adopt?
@@Me-eb3wv I'm adopted myself and see too many ethical issues with the adoption system for me to feel comfortable going that route. I recognize that it may be a good option for others though.
I highly doubt your genuinely a one. And it would be impossible to make a video like that because in genetics, just think of some families you've seen- some of the siblings can come out as 3s and other full blooded siblings can be 7s. . I think I'm a 6 but my sister is an 8. Genetic combinations are random and extremely unpredictable, there is no precise method to the madness
Your children could possibly inherit your nose but their fathers lips, or vice versa, just as if you study your own face you can find similarities to one parent in some features and similarities to the other parent in other features, but on your sibling it could be completely opposite
@@Me-eb3wv soo she should adopt just bc she deems herself as unattractive? As if unattractive people shouldn't reproduce because coming out as unattractive would be a fate worse than death? Get over yourself
@@willowmalone9215 It's interesting that you mention the sibling aspect. Most of my sisters (half and full) I'd say fall around my score with one of the younger ones falling probably as a 4-5 thanks to genes from her father. However, my only full-blood brother I'd rank as higher than average facially. I don't know if it's because of better nutrition in utero or the fact that he's male and hormones helped him out more, but he's the lucky one in that regard.
Based on this video and the comments I've read, I reckon I'm a 4/10. My face is asymmetrical and I have a weak chin. I have received compliments from strangers but mainly for my hair and body - once for my face though haha
And you think that’s okay?
It is over
u ever consider fixing the chin? i think ramieri is pretty good and not too expensive in italy compared to american surgeons. if ur interested i have some knowledge.
You've still not understood that people don't use a Gaussian curve when rating on the 1-10 scale. They use school type garding, where giving less than 5 means failure, and where 7 is seen as an average score.
Hahaha I’d say I’m a 5.5 at best ! Looks are deceiving and fleeting - inner beauty should reign but in this aesthetic world we now live in how someone looks takes precedence over this ! At 55 years old now I don’t give a frick about attractiveness if someone is a demon underneath because for me it’s all about the inner beauty of one’s soul !
Ttfn;)
No but am I the only one who thinks rating ppl with mere numbers 1-10 is soo dumb like? If someone is good looking say that not damn she/he's a 10/10 like??? Idk something about rating people with numbers seems fucking dumb to me.
I could see why you think that BUT we must be objective here and objective universal beauty exist for a reason. For example a properly developed face with exceptional features would be considered a “9” on average by most ppl. We kind of have to base it on numbers. There’s no real other way to do it. Even subconsciously we rate ppl based on some sort of scale/comparison. Numbers are easier (personally) to visualize instead of trying to give a descriptive image of someone thats really attractive. For example a true “8” on average globally would be looked that way. Also once you start increasing the number scale say 1-20 it becomes quiet difficult to rate. 1-10 is best.
@@jeffbro1021 The whole point of the video is that there's no objective way to rate beauty on a linear scale, that's why QOVES doesn't do it
I think it's dumb too...
Perfect "10's" don't exist. A former competitive gymnast would easily say this.
I think modeling scouts would be more accurate in their judgments. Cosmetic surgeons can literally point out ANY supposed imperfections and envision what improvements CAN be done. That is their job. It's not about what SHOULD be corrected. It's about what's POSSIBLE to correct and refine.
Modeling scouts, for iconic brands or corporations and enterprises, go out searching for images/standards that best represent their brand. Their only objective is to make as money as possible. They need to be objective in choosing individuals for this reason.
Playboy didn't choose "6" or "7" to pose for their pictorials/Playmates/centerfolds.
Hooters says their brand has always been iconic. They're NOT going to send out company scouts/reps to look for "5" or "6" to work as Hooters Girls. We had to represent a specific standard IN PERSON - not in print!
The Maxim girls were chosen because they looked phenomenal on camera. Again, they didn't choose "5" or "6" to pose regularly.
Victoria's Secret Angels were such an idealistic standard; they expected their 6'0" fashion models to maintain an "unrealistic" 36-23-34 on such a tall frame.
Yeah but the average everyday woman wouldn't qualify for most of those jobs anyway that's why women in the top 10% percentile of looks work those jobs most people are average looking and comparing yourself to an above average person makes no sense
@@Model_Roe I was approached, working behind the booth in one of THE largest malls in the country, by two scouts/reps for Hooters - to work as a Hooters Girl. They told me they 'had been watching me from a distance' and that I was 'very pretty.' They handed me one of their limited cards to bring to THE grand opening of Hooters in the metropolitan area.
I'm not in the "top ten percent," but I would think modeling/entertainment scouts for the Hooters brand are SIMILAR to Playboy in what they were looking for.
I mean ,i think 10 is subjective tbh,any human who has peak physical fitness and health and styles according to their body types and conforms to an individual's 'perfect' standard {pinnacle} they are 10/10 🧐,anyways beauty is really mysterious
@@gvsmani4810 I like knowing that more special beauty standards exist, or DID exist, and A FEW were able to naturally attain/maintain them - with little-to-no maintaineous (low maintenance is sexy). This includes professional swimsuit modeling measurements and a lean hourglass shape WITHOUT counting calories and watching portion sizes. A healthy appetite is sexy.
I don't think this scale is valid. We can objectively measure facial symmetry, skin clearness, good proportions etc - but not attractiveness. If somebody's got a specific type, a person that fits in that niche would be perceived as more attractive than a supermodel who doesn't. If you're into your ethnicity exclusively, a person of another skin color can't even compete with an average Joe, no matter how objectively good looking he/she is. And so on...
Agree 💯 which is why beauty is simultaneously objective and subjective people's personal preferences what is beautiful to them but that doesn't mean you or someone else is ugly and you're right people on average are going to rate someone of the same race or ethnicity as higher no matter how average looking objectively they are than someone outside of their race who is objectively speaking more attractive
hahaha I know the Asian Model at 1:44 we work at the same agency 😆
The scale probably skews higher because everyone is getting hotter. So the average isn't the average of the current population, but the average of some fixed idea of beauty we have which is partially evolutionary (indicators of health and fertility) and partially societal (trends which are probably easier to change). I don't think these ideals change day to day. So if the ideal has stayed roughly the same, but overall attractiveness has increased due to better nutrition, hygiene, grooming, education etc, then more people will rank higher than the 'average'.
Its really not a big deal. Everyone can be a 7 and all the examples shown are above the baseline acceptable attractiveness so I believe it.
I posted on one of the rating sub-reddits once (DON’T DO IT) but I was rated as an 8-8.5 and so was Jungkook in another post so I was happy with that. Fuelled my delusions that I was rated the same as him. 😅😤 I feel Ike gauging based on how well you are usually treated by strangers helps a lot. I was an ugly gawky kid and once I went though puberty it was like living in an alternate dimension.
Cha eun woo is just perfect, he doesn't even look real
studies have found that women that are 6’s and 7’s get hit on much more often than women who are 8’s and above because they seem more attainable.
The men who do hit on the 8’s, 9’s and 10’s are basically the millionaires, male models/body builders, celebrities and the occasional pickup artist that just wants to try his luck but doesn’t really care to have a relationship.
The reason men don’t try is:
a) they think those women will reject them anyway (and they do)
b) even if they end up getting them through sheer luck, they’ll have to cave in to every demand as the woman feels she did him a favor by “giving him a chance”
c) it’s a pain to mate guard her from the guys that DO hit on her as they’re typically better than him in every way and thus you don’t have any leeway to make mistakes due to the easy availability of better options.
If you rarely get hit on by any men does that indicate you're below 5?
@@villapulla it depends on where. If it’s during the day time that just means you’re not a 7+. Hitting on women has social consequences now, so men don’t approach average women. If he’s gonna risk getting cancelled or arrested, might as well go for a hottie and hope he gets lucky….that’s what pickup artists do
But if it’s like a club environment where approaching and hitting on women is acceptable, and no one still hits on yo despite the presence of single men then yes you’re below a 5
@@harsh3948 I never go to clubs so that doesn't count, sigh of relief I'm not a certified uggo lol
@@villapulla There's always dating apps to show you as well. If you swipe only on the hottest of guys and still get matches, then you ain't an uggo either
@@harsh3948 I've never been on those either, only real life every day interactions for me
Yes, I love this channel
I find it easiest to judge my own attractiveness by instead assessing that of the suitors and how interested they are in a relationship not situationship but that’s just me
Lol so you realise who's out of your scale but who's inside depends on more factors than commitment.
@@Sugabullets attractive men are easy to sleep with. If they have money/physique/intelligence they need much more than just looks in my experience. But yes, am aware it’s not foolproof.
@@gingerlykitten yeah you gotta stand out and honestly it's not that hard. Being family oriented, nurturing personality's, having a genuine interest/connection/vibe make you look past the superficial.
And being nurturing does not mean men are looking for a mother, but does mean you will be a good one.
@@Sugabullets I understand and completely agree! Am happily married 😊
Whats a situationship
The first thing is to measure your look among your own people. To the lowest rating you will always be good looking among your own but this changes due to added factors. Good looking among your own from 1-10 is heavy influenced by models and good looking movie stars of the world.
In truth everyone holds a scale of their own and there are different good looking looks. There are guys who have girl looks and guys who have a young cute look and then the guys with the handsome look.
Believe it or not there is balanced good looks and imbalance as long as the extremes work to make a nice look.
Ranking of attractiveness is much more reliable than a number system. That's why Mark Zuckerberg's program at university made sense, always comparing the faces of two women. Honestly, here in Europe we are not used to this grading system that assumes a certain small percentage of excellent marks. If a class has lots of students doing excellently in a test then so be it. We would not think that 10/10 has to be exceptional.
There used to be a dating site called hot or not where you would rate other people's looks. After awhile of only getting rated a solid 5-6, you'd become suspicious of people rating you higher. So all the average people went on a lot of dates together 😂 once we accepted that we were mid, that is...
Sorry but who is included on the scale? If it is everyone in the world including older people (which is most of the population) than it makes sense that the average young person is a 7/10. If you are limiting the pool of people to just young people then an average of 5/10 is of course more accurate. If you ever ride a bus or walk down a street you will see why a person in your dating pool who you consider “average” is actually way more attractive than the actual average person you see in real life. The sample size makes all the difference in how people rank on the scale. If the sample size is everyone in the world an “average” young person in your dating pool will at the least be a 7/10.
Seriously 7/10 is considered average?? When 5 is the exact average number comes in mid of 1-10 scale?
And that's why because you can't determine with absolutely precision the rate of someone from 1 to 10 that you also can't determine what is the league of someone, only in situations that the difference in the appearence between two people is huge.
Apparently I'm more attractive than I am because I always rated myself lower and whenever I call myself average or ugly I get dumbfounded stares. In class last week I went in all done up and in my best everything and I sat in the back corner, a cute girl kept looking back towards the corner and I just thought there was something behind me, didn't even make eye contact until she started talking to me directly, but she was 17 and I'm 23 so... nah. Another girl that I worked with kept telling me I have "One of those tiktok guy faces" so maybe that's a bonus too. Don't forget the fact that a lot of attractive people will get bullied by average people due to jealousy, that can be a reason for why attractive people have lower self esteem.
I'd be happy getting just 1. Thankfuly I'm not relying on my looks for my own self esteem.
Speaking of unconscious biases… I’ve noticed that you tend to show pretty brunettes with long hair when discussing 10s. I’ve rarely seen you display a gorgeous red head or a gorgeous dark complexioned girl etc. when referencing 10s… Just an FYI
1:56
Maybe that's his type 😮😂
@@ValerieKatherine He wasn’t referring to her as a 10…
@@Lizna-r4k Lol agreed, which means all of this drivel is subjective. As we already know
can you do a video about irina shayk and candice swanepoel?
6:56 Since I started working out I can humble myself and I am still realistic, but also think of myself as a god.😂😂😂. Because I know it also helps
when the dude in the tiktok vid said "5 is pretty mid" lmao
I see where he's coming from
Most people are still average. 8s and 9s are rare.
The moment people know or assume something about you, they're biased and rate your attractiveness differently. It is a classical phenomena studied well by psychologists. When you say "it's a face of a serial killer", people describe it in one way (ugly, angry, scary), when you say "he's a doctor", people describe the same face as an easthetically pleasing, classy, kind, or caring. People's faces are multi-faceted, and only the beholder chooses where to focus their attention, and how to interpret what they see. Your appearance/attractiveness is how well you play with your own and people's biases. I'm okay with studying the biases, but pretending to be an authority that tells his audience which biases are the "correct" ones is rather disrespectful and toxic, so I have to unsubscribe
I agree that's why people perceive models as hot
@@mar1nn998Yes, and in my opinion most of them are not.
I mean couldn’t 7 be the average tho? Meaning the scale is wider than that reserving the 1-3s for (in the most respectful way) physically deformed people, 4-5s for generally unattractive people 6-7s for put together but still average people, and then 8s and 9s for people really putting an effort in their appearance and 10s for like genetically blessed people. Meaning that since most people put an effort they pass 5 or 6 to a 7 or 8, so the scale is relative not to the average number of people of a certain attractiveness, but like 1 being the most unattractive and 10 the most attractive and the in between is the distance of the two.
I've been told that I'm about an 8 consistently. I am not pretty enough to model but I am usually one of the prettier girls in the room.
I’m the opposite haha. I’ve been told I could model (I definitely have the height) but rarely ever receive compliments about my appearance other than my smile
And it's very funny when different races , different ethnicities rate you very differently.
Long story short:
* We see more attractive people due to social media.
* Attractiveness should in theory follow a Gaussian distribution, but it could be skewed due to exogenous factors (incl. desire and effort to look good, money, plastic surgery).
* 7 is the magic figure. Most people rate themselves as a 7 out of 10, and also consider it the threshold for dating.
* Several cognitive biases prevent us from rating our attractiveness objectively.
* Be better by being aware of biases, increasing your knowledge of what is attractiveness, training your eye.