Can China's Comac break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly?

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  • Опубликовано: 9 апр 2024
  • China is on a mission to break up the Airbus-Boeing duopoly and it hopes the domestically made Comac C919 will be its first big break into foreign markets.
    Made by the Commercial Aircraft Corporation of China (Comac), the passenger aircraft has been touted as the “dream of a nation” by Chinese President Xi Jinping.
    If successful, the C919 would offer airlines an alternative to the Airbus A320 and Boeing 737 families.
    However, there are still several hurdles Comac would need to clear before it could take on the French and American aerospace giants’ dominance.
    Today, the bulk of the C919 orders, which can be outfitted with up to 192 seats, are from domestic carriers and Chinese companies that lease aircraft to airlines.
    GallopAir, a new Brunei-based airline, is the first carrier outside of China to order the C919. They have ordered 15 C919s and 15 ARJ21s, Comac’s small jet aircraft.
    The airline will launch at the end of 2024 with the ARJ21, according to its CEO Cham Chi.
    “As a customer and operator of China’s Comac products, we can get financial support from China’s import-export bank, and also central banks,” Cham told CNBC in an interview.
    According to Cham, Comac said it would consider creating aircraft maintenance, repair and overhaul support for its aircraft in Brunei.
    “For the first and second aircraft, we’ll still need to fly to Shanghai for MRO,” he said. “After three to five aircrafts have been delivered, then we can start MRO in Brunei.”
    The future production rate, especially for the C919, remains in question for Comac.
    “It’s a big question, having only delivered four aircraft over the last several years,” Adam Cowburn, managing director of Alton Aviation Consultancy told CNBC.
    “Industry analysts will look at production rate to understand at what rate they are going to start to meaningfully chip away at the market share of Boeing and Airbus. Our models predict that was still quite some time out,” Cowburn said.
    Brendan Sobie, an independent analyst from Sobie Aviation said that Comac’s aspiration is to have international sales, though it will take time.
    “Airlines want that third option after Airbus and Boeing, particularly given Boeing’s issues recently,” he told CNBC.
    Boeing has been hit with a multitude of safety issues, particularly involving their Boeing 737 Max.
    “It’s still early to say whether [Comac] is a serious competitor in the long run,” Brendan added.
    Watch the video above to learn more about Comac’s origins, and whether it has what it takes to disrupt Airbus and Boeing.
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  • @CNBCi
    @CNBCi  Месяц назад +234

    Would you ride in a C919?

    • @antoniobabb1938
      @antoniobabb1938 Месяц назад +260

      No but still better than Boeing I guess.

    • @skinnybricks
      @skinnybricks Месяц назад +116

      I mean, it's probably fine.

    • @sadihy
      @sadihy Месяц назад +62

      Not until it's certified by EASA and/or the FAA.

    • @lindafukuyu5767
      @lindafukuyu5767 Месяц назад +114

      Yes, I will !

    • @alileevil
      @alileevil Месяц назад +217

      Over a Boeing? Definitely!

  • @sn350channel
    @sn350channel Месяц назад +1095

    At this point, any new airplane manufacture is better than Boeing.

    • @trentkenzler8478
      @trentkenzler8478 Месяц назад

      Unless it's made in China. Tofu buildings, tin can navy.

    • @shawncheng404
      @shawncheng404 Месяц назад +13

      Stupid idea

    • @ogasdiaz
      @ogasdiaz Месяц назад +62

      @@gravelDave after MCAS fiasco and the ripped off window it's not about beliefs anymore.

    • @johnwinter7597
      @johnwinter7597 Месяц назад +1

      That’s such a lame statement

    • @user-jt5cn9qh1z
      @user-jt5cn9qh1z Месяц назад

      Why ? ​@@shawncheng404

  • @zhubotang927
    @zhubotang927 29 дней назад +428

    I don’t think EU or US would certify C919. This is not a reflection of C919 quality or safety or anything. It is just protectionism.

    • @TRONTC
      @TRONTC 26 дней назад +12

      Bhahah by that argument they shouldn't certify a Embraer or a B or A . They will certify it. It's more or less a western + Chinese combo aircraft. Though on account of Geopolitical issues it'll take a little longer and be more in-depth. Looking forward to more competition in the market and flying on a. C919 soon.

    • @Unclesam404
      @Unclesam404 26 дней назад +23

      Well think of it this way. China buy tons of of airbus. So China will get EU certification. US certification is not needed given the geopolitical situation. And after all, China can’t produce enough for themselves why export ? China will buy 0 Boeing airplanes from now on.

    • @davidz7858
      @davidz7858 25 дней назад +10

      C919 could be survived with domestic market and Asia, Africa and South America market. Its main goat is to prove its liabilities and save.

    • @NadeemAhmed-nv2br
      @NadeemAhmed-nv2br 25 дней назад +3

      ​@@Unclesam404china demand requirements is ironically so high that they'll bite their tongue and continue buying Boeing.
      Of course comac and Airbus they never stopped buying from but their demand is so large that even these 3 combined aren't enough to satisfy demand so Embraer will probably still in also.
      Of course, most of the components for all 4 makers come from those handful of European and American companies

    • @Unclesam404
      @Unclesam404 25 дней назад +4

      @@NadeemAhmed-nv2br hehe has China ever bought/deliver any Boeing aircraft since the Trump trade war ? Can you please do some research ?

  • @jjbully
    @jjbully 29 дней назад +357

    later they will say China has overcapacity in plane 😂

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 28 дней назад +25

      Lol true

    • @souria1671
      @souria1671 23 дня назад +6

      🤣🤣🤣🤣👍👍
      Quand c’était eux qui produisaient pendant bien longtemps, il n’y avait aucun problème 😌

    • @samiah21
      @samiah21 22 дня назад +5

      😂

    • @eyeonchina2023
      @eyeonchina2023 20 дней назад

      Not likely since it uses western parts. 😂

    • @yiquny
      @yiquny 16 дней назад +2

      ​@@eyeonchina2023logic? Be aware Boeing uses Chinese components

  • @chrisk5437
    @chrisk5437 Месяц назад +133

    Comac doesn’t need to break up the duopoly, Boeing will do it for them…

    • @xuchen4012
      @xuchen4012 26 дней назад +2

      monopoly is worse ...

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 7 дней назад

      yep, japanese calls it harakiri LOL.

  • @Wilson24678
    @Wilson24678 Месяц назад +181

    What kind of person would complain about having another player to break the duopoly market?

    • @user-jo9xh9yg7o
      @user-jo9xh9yg7o 28 дней назад +2

      美国 台湾

    • @darthvadeth6290
      @darthvadeth6290 26 дней назад +16

      jealous and hateful people, lol

    • @nuevision8
      @nuevision8 26 дней назад

      The same people that go to court to keep the Green Party off of elections ballots in many states...

    • @ervinabdullah881
      @ervinabdullah881 16 дней назад

      Boing and Airbus fan will surely against any Chinese and Russia made airplane.

    • @ahmedzakikhan7639
      @ahmedzakikhan7639 13 дней назад

      Same reason Tik Tok got banned.

  • @craiglee3253
    @craiglee3253 Месяц назад +676

    It won't be hard for China to beat boeing quality.

    • @Louis1059
      @Louis1059 Месяц назад +15

      CCP quality is the same as Boeing lol

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o Месяц назад +118

      @@Louis1059higher than boeing

    • @ericyeo1454
      @ericyeo1454 Месяц назад +38

      If china is low quality, boeing is usable quality. Even boeing workers say they wont board if its an boeing plane. LMAO

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад +5

      ​@@Louis1059 and u have proof of today😂

    • @jeremyknight1927
      @jeremyknight1927 Месяц назад +4

      @@user-tt6il2up4o how's it higher if their designs are stolen from Boeing?

  • @backemf89
    @backemf89 Месяц назад +486

    For now chinas ambition is not overseas but being self-reliance and independent from Western monopoly

    • @matiasavellanal5244
      @matiasavellanal5244 Месяц назад +39

      except it isn't cause most of the parts are western made

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge Месяц назад +8

      Then why make it with so many Western components? Even Bombardier played a role in its design

    • @siddharthgoyal4008
      @siddharthgoyal4008 Месяц назад +74

      @@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge because it makes sense to start initially with known and working parts. Even in Solar industry initially China leveraged German suppliers, eventually it added more value chain and now China has absolute domination over Solar industry across all verticals.

    • @backemf89
      @backemf89 Месяц назад

      @@John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge what's wrong with that? you live in an open free market globalized world. Even being and Airbus gets their critical mineral and material supplied from China.

    • @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge
      @John_.Cabell_.Breckinridge Месяц назад +5

      @@siddharthgoyal4008 but China has had an aviation industry since the 1950s and to this day most of their jets have western components or are based on a Russian design.

  • @xx133
    @xx133 Месяц назад +328

    Boeing CEO just said Comac planes are equivalent to their offering. So why not choose Comac, when Boeing’s planes are dismantling in midair.

    • @TomNook.
      @TomNook. Месяц назад +1

      Because it takes a lot of time to make them

    • @BS-vm5bt
      @BS-vm5bt 29 дней назад +6

      Why not airbus that have non of the issues boeing got.

    • @martinishot
      @martinishot 25 дней назад +1

      With 737 MAX doors maybe not bolted on. With C919 wings, engines, fuselage sections, landing gear, tail, passenger seats, overhead bins, jump seats, coffee maker(you read that right) maybe not bolted on.

    • @martinishot
      @martinishot 24 дня назад

      I'm sure he said equivalent to their offerings 30 even 40 years ago. The technology is so old and they will be paying so much more for fuel.

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 24 дня назад

      @@martinishot look at China EV, does it take 30-40 years to develop it?

  • @davidchen3503
    @davidchen3503 Месяц назад +156

    If China replace half of its domestic market with ARJ21, C919, C929, that would be big blow to Airbus and Boeing.

    • @luffirton
      @luffirton Месяц назад +2

      The big question is will Chinese airlines trust them enough to buy them and will Chinese passengers want to fly with them, like right now people are saying if it’s a Boeing I’m not going. Reputation in this industry is everything

    • @davidchen3503
      @davidchen3503 Месяц назад +27

      @@luffirton China Eastern Airline is flying four C919, daily.

    • @MulaFresh-bi3mq
      @MulaFresh-bi3mq 29 дней назад +5

      ​@@luffirton You slow

    • @calvinkong6849
      @calvinkong6849 29 дней назад

      Airbus should be more disastrous

    • @antonsjoberg
      @antonsjoberg 27 дней назад

      @@davidchen3503 4 is nothing

  • @robertlee6338
    @robertlee6338 29 дней назад +93

    If COMAC takes 50% of Chinese domestic market it is 25% of sales from Boeing and Airbus

    • @MSDGroup-ez6zk
      @MSDGroup-ez6zk 24 дня назад +4

      Plus its massive 160 countries of its China silk road member markets.

  • @pratronald
    @pratronald Месяц назад +325

    Certification from the FAA is meaningless... It didnt save those people from dying on those boeng aircrafts, did it????

    • @darrellgorsuch5599
      @darrellgorsuch5599 Месяц назад +57

      no, it did not - because the FAA had outsourced the the certification process to boeing itself, in effect

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 Месяц назад +30

      FAA has bad reputation and no longer a independent body for airplane certification...

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 Месяц назад +1

      @@kamalabrahman6925 the accidents are unfortunate, but will make aviation safer. too bad people buy into media hysteria.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 Месяц назад +5

      @steveablet4041
      Accidents can be prevented if you have taken the out hazards
      This is by taking the preventive measures and recovery measures....
      But if you omit all these safety procedures, then you are planning for failure..

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 Месяц назад +2

      @@kamalabrahman6925 Not entirely true. Even following every procedure can still result in accidents. Some are predictable and some are not. There are some accidents in aviation that no person on the planet could have thought of. You have an unrealistic expectation that things made by humans are perfect.

  • @huanghermann5207
    @huanghermann5207 Месяц назад +153

    It is a long way to go for COMAC. Luckily, China has a big market for it to grow up.

    • @Akash-uq8wg
      @Akash-uq8wg Месяц назад +4

      1000+ orders, you bet they will catch up

    • @jogana6909
      @jogana6909 Месяц назад +32

      After the introduction of China cars in Australia, the prices of both EV and ICE vehicle have dropped, and consumers are the beneficiaries of competition (including those who have not bought China cars).

    • @Akash-uq8wg
      @Akash-uq8wg Месяц назад

      @@jogana6909 yup those ridiculous profits tesla made, so it could afford stock by backs are over. Now its harder to inflate their stock.

    • @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 Месяц назад +1

      ​@@jogana6909what you want to say? Can you believe they will Catchup or not?

    • @jogana6909
      @jogana6909 Месяц назад +18

      @@nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      What I want to say is that competition is better than monopoly.

  • @ashvinkumarbhoyar3037
    @ashvinkumarbhoyar3037 Месяц назад +56

    the same FAA who certified 737 max will certify comac ? 🤣🤣🤣

    • @lancewood1410
      @lancewood1410 7 дней назад

      Why would Comac need faa certification if they don't intend to fly to americaaaaaa :)

  • @regorflora7915
    @regorflora7915 Месяц назад +94

    Airbus: it no different from what airbus and boeing already have.
    Comac: yes, but it will be cheaper.

    • @hakanevin8545
      @hakanevin8545 Месяц назад +10

      I wouldn't bet on that. Comac is using the same parts as Boeing and Airbus which have the advantage of economy of scale. Comac will need a long time to reduce their costs down to Boeing and Airbus level, maybe they will never make it.
      Their target is not being cheap, but making China less dependent.

    • @pjacobsen1000
      @pjacobsen1000 Месяц назад +2

      The list price is almost identical. No airlines pay the list price, but it is never made public what the real price is.

    • @regorflora7915
      @regorflora7915 Месяц назад

      @@hakanevin8545are the chinese capable of reverse engineering those spare part?

    • @hakanevin8545
      @hakanevin8545 Месяц назад +2

      @@regorflora7915 Sure they are. Chinese mobile phones are more high tech than the best selling aircraft A320 designed in 1980s. Bu do they need reverse engineering? Those parts are already available to Chinese companies.

    • @marcmcreynolds2827
      @marcmcreynolds2827 Месяц назад

      @@hakanevin8545 Speaking of "A320" and "1980s", a big drawback to the C919 is that it matches up against a 1980s A320 rather than a current one. It's not competitive with current offerings, other than perhaps on price. Payload is significantly less and fuel burned is higher.

  • @temper44
    @temper44 Месяц назад +44

    It's 60% made in China. That's still impressive though, its very hard to make a modern airliner.

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden Месяц назад +8

      They only make wings and fuselage, everything else is from USA and some from French, how is that 60%?

    • @damianodonnell5844
      @damianodonnell5844 Месяц назад +14

      @@abdiganiaden they said 3/5 of the plane parts were made in china , 3/5 is equal to 60%

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      ​@@abdiganiaden they made me than that

    • @The_Stef
      @The_Stef Месяц назад +11

      @@damianodonnell5844 I think you misunderstood the video. the video mentioned that 3/5th of all components come form the USA and 1/3 from Europe. This leaves only 10% of components coming from China or other countries. Plus the assembly of course.

    • @WellSalt-Studio
      @WellSalt-Studio Месяц назад +11

      @@abdiganiaden No commercial airliner manufactures all the components of its own aircraft. Even if it has the ability to manufacture its own aircraft, it will choose to cooperate with multiple manufacturers due to cost factors. China has intercontinental large transport aircraft entirely manufactured by itself. In 2030, the localization rate of C919 will exceed 70%, which will be higher than the current value of Boeing.
      The C929 is a long-range wide-body jet airliner independently developed in accordance with internationally accepted airworthiness standards and with independent intellectual property rights. It is equipped with the self-developed Yangtze River 2000 engine, with a basic seating capacity of 280 and a range of 12,000 kilometers. Orders have exceeded 500.

  • @shronklescrimblo69
    @shronklescrimblo69 Месяц назад +46

    Comac needs to make it's move and assure it's quality now while Boeing is struggling

  • @jeremypearson6852
    @jeremypearson6852 Месяц назад +13

    Comac doesn’t need to sell internationally, they have enough business in China and maybe Russia.

  • @cabasadefogo9533
    @cabasadefogo9533 Месяц назад +305

    How can you underestimate the Chinese at anything these days
    1) They were forbidden on the International Space Station, in less than 10yrs they have a superior station in place.
    2) Their cars were laughed at 10yrs ago, now Elon Musk wants heavy protection in the west against Chinese EVs.
    3) They were sanctioned and it was thought they can at best make 14nm chips. Well, 7nm last year and 5nm this year. With Lithography machines coming.
    4) Their navy was laughed at 15yrs ago. Now the type 55 destroyer of PLAN is being copied by the US navy. Simply compared to image to the proposed DDGX to the already in service type 55.
    5) We were gonna have the first railgun. Opps, it is canceled now. While the Chinese have field tested theirs on a ship 2yrs ago! Now developing railgun launching system for out of space.
    I can go on, but I don't have enough zoloft and xanax for that.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад +20

      1 - They've a space station that is totally based on 50 years old Russia\Soveit technologies, with no innovation, the technology that belongs to museum as Russia was not able to advanced it further after the soviet fall, funny is that, the Chinese couldn't even make the docking system and ask Russians to transfered the tech as well.
      2 - Their EVs are nothing but low quality fire hazard cars, and based on stolen tech from Tesla (read the recent WSJ article about quality of BYD and other Chinese EVs.)

    • @cabasadefogo9533
      @cabasadefogo9533 Месяц назад +120

      @@JigilJigil sour grapes 🍇 much?

    • @trentkenzler8478
      @trentkenzler8478 Месяц назад

      @@cabasadefogo9533 Tengping, wumao!! Don't believe the lies of your CCP masters!!

    • @lol-wd5cw
      @lol-wd5cw Месяц назад +85

      @@JigilJigiltell me you know nothing about china without telling me you know nothing about china

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад +2

      @@lol-wd5cw OK wumao.

  • @arminius6506
    @arminius6506 Месяц назад +41

    Comac isn't in a hurry, they're looking up in the time frame of 2-4 decades to establish themselves in the international market. They'd easily get 2000+ orders from China and then smooth operations of those thousands of aircrafts can easily get them certification from anywhere. Comac don't need to beat Boeing or Airbus, establishing itself as a third biggest commercial aircraft maker would be a mega success for them and China.

    • @aslampervez2294
      @aslampervez2294 28 дней назад

      They will beat them on the price

    • @nsebast
      @nsebast 25 дней назад

      If the safety records are established, pretty sure the whole world is going to buy from China again. Boeing and Airbus will majority only be purchased domestically.

  • @golu4706
    @golu4706 Месяц назад +167

    Considering MAX 737 saga, I think C-1919 has fair chance

    • @abdiganiaden
      @abdiganiaden Месяц назад

      You’re joking, majority of Comac parts are sourced from the west
      Only parts China makes is wings, fuselage, and radar cover
      Everything else is USA made

    • @christodang
      @christodang Месяц назад +3

      Some of the parts of the current C919 are made by Airbus and Boeing suppliers soooo. Mind you China wants to have most of the parts made within China in the near future

    • @phoreal22
      @phoreal22 Месяц назад

      America is going to stifle competition by pressuring FAA to not provide "airworthiness"

    • @peterkotara
      @peterkotara Месяц назад +7

      Comac will likely struggle to get a foothold in the western market as airlines are risk averse and Comac does not have an established parts and support network, the companies QC procedures are opaque, Chinas aviation industry has an appalling reputation for poor reliability and the C919 is overweight so unlikely to get close to the fuel efficiency of the western product. They will improve and will do well in China and some developing nations (a huge and growing market), but I don't see them cracking the western market any time soon (even accounting for the fact that there is a 7 year waiting list for some Airbus aircraft).

    • @leihtory7423
      @leihtory7423 Месяц назад +1

      @@peterkotara USA EU buys Brazil's New Embraer E195.
      Why wont they buy Chinese. Same components made by Western Countries?
      Geopolitics?

  • @toucancheney9091
    @toucancheney9091 Месяц назад +157

    Boeing is gonna break itself.

    • @user-wp8de6cc9s
      @user-wp8de6cc9s Месяц назад +1

      Not now, as long as our president Xi continues using 747-8i as his flying palace.

    • @toucancheney9091
      @toucancheney9091 29 дней назад

      @@user-wp8de6cc9s Indeed CPC is now Boeing's last strew

  • @ryanlittleton5615
    @ryanlittleton5615 Месяц назад +202

    All three aircraft in the thumbnail are Airbus A320 aircraft. Don't go to MSM for aviation news...

    • @diamesarr1500
      @diamesarr1500 Месяц назад +12

      😂😂😂

    • @felixonetwothree2245
      @felixonetwothree2245 Месяц назад +5

      Loool

    • @tailsorange2872
      @tailsorange2872 Месяц назад +10

      Says a person who can't see the difference between the models.

    • @Artemie-np3qu
      @Artemie-np3qu Месяц назад +2

      Are you blind

    • @ryanlittleton5615
      @ryanlittleton5615 Месяц назад +6

      @@tailsorange2872 It has since been changed I swear LOL. However the blueprint aircraft pictured is still an A320. And the top left is an A320neo.

  • @jiaqishen2810
    @jiaqishen2810 Месяц назад +54

    The hosts couldn't even call the name of 737max, instead calling it 737 family lmao.

    • @Adrian_Nel
      @Adrian_Nel 28 дней назад +3

      @jiaqishen2810 Nothing wrong with that. Absolutely nothing. One might also speak, for one easy example, of a 'family of engines'as in, Ford's Eco Boost family of engines have some known weak points.

    • @9999AWC
      @9999AWC 24 дня назад +1

      Because the entire 737 lineup is still relevant today, especially the NG and even the 200 from the 70s.

  • @dread69420
    @dread69420 27 дней назад +6

    More competition is great, especially in a market that has basically kept a duopoly going on for decades.

  • @AbdulHamid-pm8dm
    @AbdulHamid-pm8dm Месяц назад +14

    Comec will fly in different countries in Asia, Russia, Africa and Middle eastern countries...

  • @godzillamothra5983
    @godzillamothra5983 Месяц назад +70

    Airbus is making planes, Boeing is making flying coffin, how can they be a duopoly

    • @tommypaget2294
      @tommypaget2294 Месяц назад

      Airbus is copy cat, they also copy Boeing is Boeing is the true leader. Lat year 2 Airbus A320 crashed in Rusham due to poor pitot-static design. Airbus is truly a European trash.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 Месяц назад +4

      Wow, you have made your point correctly. I agree 1000 %%

    • @david50665
      @david50665 16 дней назад

      so it is a monopoly now....that's why planes r so expensive

  • @agoodchow
    @agoodchow Месяц назад +15

    Both Made in China commercial aircraft and commercial cruise ship need the time to grow and improve. Will certainly improve down the road.

  • @Adebuea
    @Adebuea Месяц назад +8

    A lot of components on American planes are not from the United States so why y’all being hypocrites

  • @fyc55
    @fyc55 Месяц назад +35

    I would prefer COMAC to Boeing, definitely!

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 Месяц назад +1

      You would prefer something that is unknown versus known? Accidents are unfortunate but make aviation safer.

    • @fyc55
      @fyc55 Месяц назад +8

      @@steveablet4041 You want to be Boeing's victim to make aviation safer? FAA certification is a joke!

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 Месяц назад

      @@fyc55 You take the same risk flying on ANY aircraft. Since you wrote your comment a day ago 10s of thousands of Boeing aircraft have taken off and landed safely. The recent incidents are unfortunate however those problems have been corrected. No Boeing aircraft are grounded at the moment by any international regulator. You are buying into the media hysteria.

    • @user-kd3pq3jt9v
      @user-kd3pq3jt9v 12 дней назад

      ⁠@@steveablet4041you mean known danger and unknown danger? I would pick the unknown one.

  • @jessecruzu
    @jessecruzu Месяц назад +48

    @4:50
    AIRBUS - A
    BOEING - B
    and COMAC - C 😂

    • @ogasdiaz
      @ogasdiaz Месяц назад +4

      They are a were of their position and are working hard to become number 1. The same thing happened with byd

  • @dannnnn809
    @dannnnn809 Месяц назад +63

    Of course, this will benefit Developing countries such as those in Southeast Asia. Never underestimate China

    • @jeremyknight1927
      @jeremyknight1927 Месяц назад +3

      Never underestimate their ability to steal any proprietary data/designs.

    • @RoseRose-gk6ku
      @RoseRose-gk6ku Месяц назад +10

      I'm with you. Just someone who is jealous & panic here.

    • @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 Месяц назад +11

      ​@@jeremyknight1927I only want to advice you to write some thing different man this arguments were don't work now ok? Go and try something different

    • @WellSalt-Studio
      @WellSalt-Studio Месяц назад +7

      @@jeremyknight1927 When you have the ability to build a space station independently, it's not too late to brag.
      Dog barks at the train.

    • @coldham77
      @coldham77 Месяц назад

      @@WellSalt-Studio China stole those designs to.

  • @STREETFOODJOURNEY5
    @STREETFOODJOURNEY5 Месяц назад +12

    that's exactly elon musk reaction a decade ago about BYD, now he bit his own tounge as BYD stole tesla's crown.

  • @pbworld7858
    @pbworld7858 Месяц назад +7

    As long as doors don't fly off in mid-air.

  • @charliezwl
    @charliezwl Месяц назад +7

    US aviation certification is as useful as credit rating. Crash 737 & 2008 financial crisis.

    • @steveablet4041
      @steveablet4041 Месяц назад

      the accidents are unfortunate but will make aviation safer. you're giving the media a high credit rating and buying into hysteria.

  • @valuedcustomer94384
    @valuedcustomer94384 Месяц назад +13

    I don't really think Boeing earned the right to comment on the C919... They should focus on their own problems.

  • @zayn2476
    @zayn2476 16 дней назад +3

    comac will naturally replace boeing, and eventually airbus by having crazy competitive prices. China doesn't play to compete, it dominates

    • @jetli740
      @jetli740 15 дней назад

      name 1 company that choose compete over dominates. every company want to dominates their market

  • @muhammadhassansiddiqui6828
    @muhammadhassansiddiqui6828 Месяц назад +5

    We just need to understand that price which Comac can offer will be lower than both Airbus and Boeing. So if this place become successful in international market, both Airbus and Boeing will have buyer only in Europe and USA only because rest of the world do not have problem with Chinese products.

    • @merrick6484
      @merrick6484 23 дня назад

      Comac will started with cargo plane first to build up reputation and experience.

  • @happymelon7129
    @happymelon7129 Месяц назад +4

    Actually Comac is working with Airbus to compete Boeing.

  • @90enemies
    @90enemies 22 дня назад +1

    The funny thing is Comac doesnt even need to compete with Boeing or Airbus in International Market. Their Domestic market alone is THAT big. One of the perks of having 1.4 Billion people.

    • @MibomTali-cg9eo
      @MibomTali-cg9eo 21 день назад

      Not all Chinese airlines will take compact even if goverment enforce them

  • @AloysiusTSY
    @AloysiusTSY Месяц назад +11

    Thumbnails shows All 3 aircrafts are A320s. Then I checked, it’s from CNBC.
    Ahh. Right.

    • @Artemie-np3qu
      @Artemie-np3qu Месяц назад

      Are you blind

    • @AloysiusTSY
      @AloysiusTSY Месяц назад

      @@Artemie-np3qu Mr Windows 1.0 was slow to the game. They changed it before you came replying here.

  • @tkyap2524
    @tkyap2524 Месяц назад +10

    Reliability and pricing will decide.

  • @DukeLM
    @DukeLM 28 дней назад +3

    The more competition or choices the better

  • @jojoeverycat7726
    @jojoeverycat7726 Месяц назад +4

    Boing and Airbus responses are not any different from Nokia when it faced the critical question on digital camera!

  • @capdink
    @capdink Месяц назад +3

    For sure in the next 2 decades they are gonna be great. They will actually make them better after a few decades.

  • @sam06pr
    @sam06pr Месяц назад +3

    I'm surprised that Embraer hasn't pounced on this golden opportunity.

    • @alexandermathar7780
      @alexandermathar7780 27 дней назад

      Yes,they are perfectly capable of building B737 or Airbus sized aircraft !

  • @obsun001
    @obsun001 Месяц назад +4

    Most budget airlines from South East Asia are still rely on Airbus & Boeing fleet. For Comac flight become viable is to lease the aircraft to regional operators to minimize the cost & maintenance issues. By the time matures, confidenence will grow & order will increase eventually.

  • @da480
    @da480 Месяц назад +4

    Comac doesn’t have to exceed Airbus or Boeing sales to have an impact on the market. Over a 1000 already ordered planes is already this very impact.

  • @pjacobsen1000
    @pjacobsen1000 Месяц назад +8

    The sister aircraft, the ARJ21 saw its first delivery in 2015 and now, almost 10 years later, annual production looks to be around 24-36 craft/year. I have never built a civilian aircraft myself, but it is probably not an easy thing to do.

    • @tren133
      @tren133 26 дней назад

      ARJ's market is more limited though, and as China's first domestic airliner, not surprising that production rates have not been that high. On the other hand, its safety record after 9 years seems to be okay, and that's the one thing you need to get right in this sector. The day COMAC does get into a groove, and especially if/when local supply lines are all set up within China itself, then watch out because at that point they can and will crank production. Planes are the hardest things to be build, but China has achieved similar results now with trains, cars, and ships, and eventually they'll get there with planes as well.

  • @waltertomashefsky2682
    @waltertomashefsky2682 Месяц назад +16

    I’m expecting Comac to make RyanAir a deal they can’t refuse and soon RyanAir’s fleet will be 100% Comac and the camel’s nose will be completely in the tent.

  • @fdjw88
    @fdjw88 Месяц назад +25

    I have no idea how the 737Max passed the inspection from the department of transportation.

    • @elotello
      @elotello Месяц назад +7

      Money talks.

    • @HewbhurtGabon
      @HewbhurtGabon Месяц назад

      You have to trust american aviation authority. They are the world standard. 😂😂😂

    • @mostbestjia627
      @mostbestjia627 Месяц назад

      Let me tell you why: Boeing moved their headquarter from Seattle to Chicago and finally to DC

    • @milibibi2152
      @milibibi2152 27 дней назад +1

      Corruption

  • @StevenPhD4
    @StevenPhD4 Месяц назад +4

    The more competition is always beneficial for the consumer

  • @vinurp
    @vinurp Месяц назад +2

    COMAC will defiantly brake the duopoly of Airbus & Boeing and acquire a decent space in airline industry very soon 😊

  • @rickw5988
    @rickw5988 Месяц назад +7

    Boeing will be just fine. They’ll learn from this and will continue to put out great product. I’m just as sure as that as I am of Comac growing over time.

    • @kamalabrahman6925
      @kamalabrahman6925 Месяц назад +3

      Boeeing will take few years to recover from public scare from their plane....

    • @TamPham-rv9qn
      @TamPham-rv9qn Месяц назад

      ​@kamalabrahman6925 I agree, the fall of Boeing's quality for sure will be lesson and learn not only for Boeing but for Airbus and other as well.

  • @marufbepary100
    @marufbepary100 Месяц назад +6

    I think for the first few years (closer to a decade probably), it will be only operated by Chinese airlines. This will slowly show other airlines that Comac is a viable alternative to Airbus and Boeing. This is probably worse for Boeing than Airbus since Comac could capitalise on the current controversies with Boeing.

    • @pedrorequio5515
      @pedrorequio5515 Месяц назад

      The West is not playing fair exactly. There is an area where China is impossible behind, Engine Technology, and the US is restricting access to modern engines. Copying these engines is easy, making the Materials that make them work is extraordinarily hard. Russia has better engine tech than China, but Russia will need scale because part availability is crucial for Airlines.

  • @ranjithpowell6791
    @ranjithpowell6791 Месяц назад +4

    Better quality than Boeing

  • @bioberliner
    @bioberliner Месяц назад +2

    boering is under insanely
    quality problem... folks take care

  • @the.colonel2287
    @the.colonel2287 Месяц назад +2

    EU & USA certification is creating a room for monopoly however the locals can use it as long as it can be received to whatever country’s air space it can host

  • @mrklv1593
    @mrklv1593 Месяц назад +9

    Comac=Airbus>>Boeing

  • @AustinKelly94
    @AustinKelly94 9 дней назад

    I really appreciate the cockpit graphic at 3:35. Very creative!

  • @Qiushishuo
    @Qiushishuo 27 дней назад +2

    The foreign certificates are more depending on politics. It is sad.

  • @AscendanceForprogress
    @AscendanceForprogress Месяц назад +4

    The more competion is involved the more consumers are assured with quality. Well done comac.

  • @user-tx6wy7pc1u
    @user-tx6wy7pc1u Месяц назад +3

    No, it will just become Airbus-whatever that chinese name is Duopoly. I get chills, when i get my boarding card and it says Boeing and I am normal.

  • @somcode5831
    @somcode5831 Месяц назад +15

    This plane will become security threat to americans

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 28 дней назад +2

      Lol true

    • @obinnaezealah2465
      @obinnaezealah2465 24 дня назад +3

      Or they'll say "safety concerns".

    • @carloschin4363
      @carloschin4363 18 дней назад

      ​@@widodoakrom3938 usando a velha receita dos políticos do US ,com termos subestimando a potencialidade do concorrente e esquecendo o desenvolvimento interno do próprio país, perante a precariedade da infraestrutura da nação para o bem estar do povo com sintomas reais de declínio de dominância mundial... " American first" 😂
      Veja as autoridades ,cabeções americanas e europeias visitando a China..por qual motivo??

  • @9999AWC
    @9999AWC 24 дня назад +2

    6:36 The majority of airliners built use components from companies around the globe. The 787 is still American despite having components from Canada, France, Japan, the Uk, etc. The F-35 is still American despite being built and developed by a consortium of countries. the MC-21 is still Russian despite using parts and components from China, the EU, and the US (well, it did, before sanctions from the war changed that).

  • @dervue7781
    @dervue7781 Месяц назад +7

    As if the FAA certificate has any worth. Look at Boeing, it is like that, and there you have it.

  • @Neel71
    @Neel71 14 дней назад +2

    Remember Elon's derisive laughter after hearing about BYD being competitive!

  • @zaidbaig2943
    @zaidbaig2943 Месяц назад +2

    Attleast they are not falling apart like Beoings lol.

  • @soowo5942
    @soowo5942 Месяц назад +7

    The Chinese market is more than enough for c 919!

  • @Wha2les
    @Wha2les Месяц назад +14

    Well Boeing is certainly doing their part to give the Chinese firm an opening!
    At this rate, the Chinese plane would be safer than Boeing!

  • @sungs3917
    @sungs3917 26 дней назад +1

    I have experienced flying with comac, very smooth and even faster to reach destination

  • @stevidente
    @stevidente Месяц назад +7

    Still needs to beat Embraer first

  • @lagrangewei
    @lagrangewei Месяц назад +9

    this is actually not the first large jetliner China build. the SAMF Y10 flew in 1980, could carry 124 to 178 passenger, made 130 flight before it was retire in favor of buying Boeing.
    the reality is companies can't produce plane fast enough to meet orders, so it is very logical for airlines to just buy which ever plane would be available quickest than to wait for years for their planes. so the real question is how many planes can COMAC build a year, if the numbers are not comparible, people won't buy it, but if it is equal to Airbus and Boeing, than the duopoly will automatically be broken by the reality of production.

  • @user-wp8de6cc9s
    @user-wp8de6cc9s Месяц назад +1

    It's funny that the three Competitors are using the same engine(A320neo uses leap-1A while B737max uses leap-1B and C-919 uses leap-1C).

  • @f_pie
    @f_pie Месяц назад +2

    Jez, the US is not happy with giving up drone production to China, now we’re gonna let them have plane production too just because grandpa US aerospace firms can’t compete, how embarrassing… 😳

    • @whiskeykilo2h429
      @whiskeykilo2h429 Месяц назад

      This is because the globalists want it that way.

  • @THEOUTLAWS209
    @THEOUTLAWS209 Месяц назад +5

    Probably safer than Boeing right now

  • @TogioLee-qt2ky
    @TogioLee-qt2ky 28 дней назад +10

    A = Airbus
    B = Boeing
    C = Comac
    D=
    What a coincidence😮

  • @leerizer
    @leerizer Месяц назад +1

    To be honest I think now Comac is safer than Boeing

  • @revolutionarydefeatism
    @revolutionarydefeatism 26 дней назад +5

    Anything would be safer than Boeing!

  • @seanhsieh4149
    @seanhsieh4149 Месяц назад +11

    If it is not Boeing, I am not going 😊

    • @Tpavra
      @Tpavra Месяц назад +8

      Cool, more room for us normal people to travel 😎

    • @seanhsieh4149
      @seanhsieh4149 Месяц назад

      @Tpavra lol, but the availability of airbus is limited , and it is hard to book a ticket 🎟 now.

    • @birdsnature6421
      @birdsnature6421 Месяц назад

      same, I would rather be taking an aircraft without a door than taking airbus or comic

    • @seanhsieh4149
      @seanhsieh4149 Месяц назад +1

      @@birdsnature6421 without landing gear as well 😎how exciting!

  • @tushshubro
    @tushshubro Месяц назад +1

    The difference between a Boeing/Airbus having Chinese sourcing versus Comac having non-Chinese elements is the former opt for Chinese due to price and other considerations while the latter opts for them as it’s the only available source

  • @CliffordCruiser
    @CliffordCruiser Месяц назад +4

    The narrator of this video doesn't seem qualified. She doesn't know much about the aviation industry and she seems wildly biased.

    • @tiago.matias
      @tiago.matias Месяц назад +1

      Doesn’t even know how to say A320

  • @schalitz1
    @schalitz1 Месяц назад +9

    I'm curious what airline in Germany was interested in the C919?

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 Месяц назад +4

      Hopefully none lol

    • @georgelan9985
      @georgelan9985 Месяц назад +2

      The A320neo is better than the C919, and the C919 does not have an EASA certificate at this time. So, the C919 is mainly sold in the Chinese domestic market.

  • @lambeefbiryani08
    @lambeefbiryani08 7 дней назад

    Chinna is crazy in Aerospace Industry.. They made their own space shuttle, space station, fighter jet, commercial airplane..

  • @AdmiralIbra
    @AdmiralIbra Месяц назад +7

    Yes you can see that 90% of this aicraft this not chinese but this just the beginning

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      Nope .

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад

      beginning! China has spent 3 decades and over $100 billion to make its own domestic airliner and failed...

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      @@JigilJigil and still they made it
      Didn't u run away from byd claim lol

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      @@JigilJigil source ? Proof.

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад

      @@zacksmith5963 No they couldn't, eventually the West made them one, as it was stated in the video 70-80% of the parts come from US and Europe.
      BYD,! there are numerous reports/articles about the quality of BYD vehicles , WSJ had a priece about BYD EVs quality issues a fews days ago.

  • @user-em5wy8zx7o
    @user-em5wy8zx7o Месяц назад +9

    Since the majority of its main parts are from boeing suppliers, it is quite difficult to call comac 100% made in china. Thus, it is quite difficult to underestimate their products.

    • @blazingstar9638
      @blazingstar9638 Месяц назад

      They’re being made terribly now, it doesn’t even matter

    • @user-tt6il2up4o
      @user-tt6il2up4o Месяц назад +6

      @@blazingstar9638your talking about Boeing I guess as they are the worlds worst air raft manufacture.

    • @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173
      @nerrailwaygorakhpur7173 Месяц назад

      Who's said that it is 100% made in China or from China? This is just started Airbus and Boeing is century old Companies first note down the time. Despite these problems and situations what they are achieving is a 1% only out of 100 wait and watch

    • @jazzman7167
      @jazzman7167 Месяц назад +4

      ​@@blazingstar9638I would get on a c919 over a 737 max any day of the week.

    • @JJN631
      @JJN631 Месяц назад

      Doesn't matter

  • @jasonyau326
    @jasonyau326 7 дней назад

    The Longer the Boeing production issues saga drags on, the more the likelihood airlines will consider COMAC for their narrow body airliner needs

  • @ericgeorge7874
    @ericgeorge7874 Месяц назад +1

    What wasn't mentioned is the earlier collaboration with Russia's UAC. They could have used UAC's own developed PD-14 engines but I think they mutually stopped the collaboration because of the anticipated sanction issue. So now UAC is continuing their Irkut MC-21 (200/300/310) domestically to be ready in 2025/6. Russia's older planes will need the MC-21 for replacement (TU-134, TU-154, TU-204 and YAK-42).

  • @kiribetio123
    @kiribetio123 28 дней назад +4

    These planes are far safer than Boeing made planes.

  • @eduardodaquiljr9637
    @eduardodaquiljr9637 Месяц назад +3

    Will it improve the atmosphere by not contributing carbon footprint?

  • @davidchen3503
    @davidchen3503 19 дней назад +1

    News just comes in, Air China orders 100 C919.

  • @TomNook.
    @TomNook. Месяц назад +2

    They're safer than Boeing.

  • @Ttui89.
    @Ttui89. Месяц назад +6

    Still, Chinese 🇨🇳 Xi Jinpig uses Boeing.
    -Emirates 🇦🇪, the world's leading airline uses 133 boeing 777s with orders for 205 777s and 35 787s.
    -Ryanair 🇮🇪, one of the leading european low cost airlines uses 547 boeing 737s, with no major incidents with orders for another 224.
    -Southwest 🇺🇸, uses 817 boeing 737's with orders for 495 more.
    No comac, in fact comac *isn't even certified* to fly in many regions and even Embraer, a Brazilian 🇧🇷 manufacturer has had more orders and deliveries for their jets. Lol

    • @johnsoncao3114
      @johnsoncao3114 Месяц назад +2

      Yes, it’s not a secret. Same like Chinese mobile phones industry, there is no Chinese brands at first, technology needs time. There is no need to shame. Start is better than nothing 😂

    • @Ttui89.
      @Ttui89. Месяц назад +1

      @@johnsoncao3114 you can't compare mobile phones to airplanes

    • @OiOiSillyBoi
      @OiOiSillyBoi 29 дней назад

      Comac isn’t going to break into the market anytime soon; it’s not even certified nor does it have the credibility of a long history. For the record, Airbus is the biggest manufacturer in the world. More airbus aircraft fly worldwide than Boeing aircraft. United Airlines has heavily adopted airbus since Boeing’s mishaps.

    • @johnsoncao3114
      @johnsoncao3114 29 дней назад +1

      ​@@Ttui89. Yes, sure they are not the same level in complexity. What I mean, you can achieve.

    • @widodoakrom3938
      @widodoakrom3938 28 дней назад +1

      Source: trust me bro

  • @choikof9725
    @choikof9725 Месяц назад +3

    The airbus and boeing guys are trying to make us believe it will take china ages te be Ready which is ofcourse funny and they giving al lot of reasons which they think will stand in the way, they clearly haven't learned that when china want something at a certain time I will het whatever it takes.

    • @choikof9725
      @choikof9725 27 дней назад

      @@Rihno377 just wait and see. ;)

  • @user-cw8tc3hj5p
    @user-cw8tc3hj5p 15 дней назад +2

    FAA is a national joke 😂😂

  • @hhydar883
    @hhydar883 26 дней назад +2

    Asia needs to step up its game in every sector and collaborate among each other

  • @blazingstar9638
    @blazingstar9638 Месяц назад +5

    There’s NO WAY I would get on that 💀

    • @GalacticTommy
      @GalacticTommy Месяц назад +1

      For real 😆

    • @vvvxt
      @vvvxt Месяц назад +2

      I'd take it over any 737 Max

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      I will .

    • @JigilJigil
      @JigilJigil Месяц назад

      You are not alone most people in the world won't risk their lives with China made airliner, even though 70-80% of its parts come from US and EU, Comac has been begging the countries to buy from them since the early years of the C919 development program, but with little success.

    • @zacksmith5963
      @zacksmith5963 Месяц назад

      @@JigilJigil source ? Proof ?

  • @ranx9078
    @ranx9078 28 дней назад +4

    They probably do a better job than Boeing

  • @jayceh
    @jayceh 23 дня назад +1

    Remember that Chinese airlines in general are amongst the safest in the world, and China Southern has more flights and also a higher safety ranking than Delta and United according to JACDEC
    The Chinese FAA takes safety very seriously - they were the first FAA in the world to ground thr 787-MAX whereas the US FAA succumbed to political pressure from Boeing until well after the second crash

  • @dragoneye706
    @dragoneye706 Месяц назад +1

    Well the question is how many parts and then I mean all the little parts as well come for the US and Europe for it to function.
    For it to be a fully home grown Chinese plane.