Will AI take our jobs? | Sam Altman and Lex Fridman
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Guest bio: Sam Altman is the CEO of OpenAI, the company behind GPT-4, ChatGPT, DALL-E, Codex, and many other state-of-the-art AI technologies.
Obviously automation and machines have been around for a long time,but robots/AI,that are completely functional, seemed to have been something,that was in the far future,but obviously we can now see A LOT of progress has been made with AI and even robots,for that matter,so the future for employment is definitely uncertain.
I don't think these companies know EXACTLY what they are doing,they are putting them selves out of business and they don't even know it,but at the same time, they may think, if we don't do this, our competitors will;
My question is,IF AI/automation takes all the jobs and no ones making money and no one has any money, to buy products,after all the rich people die and their generational wealth has ran out,who's going to buy products/how are products going to be sold?
Even automation TECHNICALLY cuts into your POTENTIAL profit,think about it,if the employees you hire,also buy your products, they also contribute to your over all profit,also other companies employees has a domino effect as well,when it comes to your profit,this isn't the EXACT percentage,its more just for a thinking exercise,you can either hire an actual employee and get 50% of that money back, that you invested in that employee or that someone else invested in their employee,or get automation/a Machine/AI/a robot to do it and loose SOME OR ALL of your potential profit, especially since this is talking about,if EVERYTHING was automated/no humans were needed, for production/technically the more thats automated, with in business,the less money you will make,obviously SOME things are fine,like privately owned autonomous cars,but from a business stand point TECHNICALLY autonomous vehicles COULD effect delivery drivers/over all profits,if implemented,with in businesses, just things to think about,also if you could send your vehicle to go pick up something and a robot/drone/arm,could put it in your vehicle,that would get even crazier.
I've always thought this was going to happen,I thought we might have a little more time though and I honestly thought machines/robots were going to be built and be refined,before complete automation/AI,I didn't think software was going to be completely reliable/refined,before machines/robots we're.
I don't know if rich people will let go/allow a moneyless/credit less society to evolve/form/socialism seems like the only logical progressional step/after all, at some point money becomes obsolete as well,unless we turn to desperation/war/go back to our old ways/we MAY NEED to be more self reliant/we may need to grow crops/have cows/chickens/pigs/horses and so on.
What will we do, focus on our hobbies?
It looks like hardware jobs are going to be more viable, longer than software jobs,but at the same time,if current programmers are looking for hardware jobs, hardware jobs may become limited/hard to aquire,MAYBE cyber security MIGHT be something that becomes a problem/more cybersecurity professionals, MAY be needed,because hackers are implementing AI,but AI is probably the best option to combat AI/a human couldn't keep up with something like that/a human most likely couldn't keep up with AI,LOL this takes script kiddies to a whole new level LOL,no joke though.
This comment is just for something, for people to think about,I'm not saying any of this will happen or that it is happening,I'm just saying this is definitely something to think about.
I definitely don't think the younger generation will enjoy tech,exactly like we did/this is the first time that I've had the thought that computers/automation/AI,isn't a great thing,yes a terminator scenario/sky net/I-Robot scenario COULD happen,but even if humans control all of this, this changes A LOT,good and bad,but it all depends on what we decide to do/our reaction to all of this,we don't want to be the reason for our own demise.
I think we will be able to learn more effectively/efficiently;but for what purpose,if were competing with something that we can never win against,also if money becomes obsolete,what is the drive?
Maybe medical improvements/a personal robot/advanced projectors/VR/holograms/holographic interactive optimized technology,if this could still be purchased or given out.
This is also a dilemma, a few generations MAY have to go through, when it comes to gene splicing/altering as well;How does an organically born baby/human compete with a human that has been altered/refined/optimized?
Hopefully if we do decide to do something like that/this/gene splicing,the outcome doesn't turn into a Bioshock scenario,lol,that would be crazy, iterally.
This is DEFINITELY A LOT to think about,hopefully we can all get through all of this and make the right decisions.
These are just things to think about.
Sam with his guns and bunker is ok with that
@@mattmatt2417 robots have been taking human jobs for YEARS. Car factories for example, have been using robots for a long time to make jobs faster, in a more reliable and precise way AND cheaper than it would be if it was made by humans.
They can't even solve hair loss...🤣🤣 What happened to cars driving themselves by 2020?? Elon couldn't deliver on his promise and now he's scared 🥱🥱🥱🤡🤡🤡🤡🤡
@@aventurasdeunmaker I under stand that/I know that,but robots were missing a key ingredient,to make us completely obsolete and that was AI,also robots need to be refined,slightly more still,but were not to far off.
This was my outlook in 2012-2021;
This is DEFINITELY where things are going and these are things people NEED to be thinking about/looking at/paying attention to, if people want jobs/SOME jobs are going away SOON.
We CAN'T bail companies out that don't understand the market/that aren't understanding the times/moving with the times/adapting/making good business decisions, companies like Sears,Kmart,ToysRUs and so on, companies that are already dead/that are going to inevitably die anyway.
Companies that think brick mortar is forever/newspapers that still use actual paper, just to give a few examples, IF a company is obsolete, we can't punish the companies that actually understand the market/the main things are, low price, convenience and remember we live in a digital world.
Meaning we can't regulated/enforce monopoly regulations, against business that are MORE digital, compared to A LOT of brick and mortar stores/we don't need to punish Amazon/Walmart/other online businesses, because A LOT of companies don't understand the market.
This is ALSO interesting/ this goes into how times are changing/jobs are changing/High school curriculums SHOULD change, BUT at the same time, this is going to be nice/we won't have to waste as much time/ have as much interactions with strangers, on a day to day basis, I ALREADY use door dash/Walmart/Amazon AND IF I need to, ALL I have to do, is greet them, from my security cameras.
These are jobs that WILL be going away in the future/this touches on A LOT of new autonomous technology, that is starting to surface/be utilized.
To stay relevant, learn Programming/C,C++,Python,Java,HTML,CSS,PHP,JavaScript and so on, these jobs/skills, will be the most valuable things to know and hardware/ A+,Linux+,RHCSA/RHCE,Network+,CCNA,Security+,PenTest+,CEH, for a while and Engineer jobs. These jobs are going to be the last to go.
Let me start with an example, drs MAY NEED an engineering/mechanical/electrical degree in the future/their jobs could be taken over by bots/bots ALREADY do A LOT of surgery, such as Coronary artery bypass ,cutting away cancer tissue from sensitive parts of the body ,such as blood vessels, nerves, or important body organs,Gallbladder removal, Hip Replacement, Hysterectomy,Kidney removal, kidney transplant,Mitral Valve Repair,Pyeloplasty ,surgery to correct ureteropelvic junction obstruction,Pyloroplasty,Radical Prostatectomy,Radical cystectomy,Tubal ligation
The jobs that will be going SOON/A LOT SOONER/SOME OF THESE NOW, are cashiers,warehouse workers/line workers, probably SOON employees that unload trucks, stock shelves, truck drivers, should go next, because of self driving vehicles and arms, connected to the vehicle, will drop the package out, once the vehicles in position or an autonomous drone or some other type of robot, will make the delivery.
This is happening more and more NOW, Brick and Mortar is going away/stores will either close and open up a distribution center or become a distribution center, door dash will handle that, AND AT SOME POINT, Door Dash will be FULLY AUTONOMOUS as well/the vehicles will be self driving and robots will load and unload the vehicles, Door Dash MAY NOT be the ending company, BUT a company will be doing this.
The construction/self driving field is accomplishing A LOT right now.
A LOT can be prepped at night for workers/machines can be ran at night, also window installing bots are a thing now.
Also think about how much a human can lift, if lucky, you MIGHT get one that can lift 250 pounds, a robot could lift 1000pounds, robots don't need breaks, as often/they can charge up, while another one replaces them, they don't get paid/need money, they don't get sick,they don't have feelings or rights/its a machine, so basically its easier to deal with.
Electricians MIGHT be okay, well, MAYBE for a little while, I mean think about it, how hard is it, to see colors/distinguish green/ground,White/Neutral,Red and black/hot, also electricians ALREADY consult machines/voltage meters, to diagnose problems/figure things out/ALL of that could be on a machine/bot and be handled MUCH quicker/more efficiently, with a bot.
Auto mechanics MAY be the next to go, especially if bots, could get in tight places easier/sync with the whole car/have a diagnostic reader on board, lift an entire engine/the whole car, on its own.
Also A LOT of software jobs/networking,COULD be handled with AI/if this than that, as well, EVENTUALLY hardware jobs will be accomplished by bots, as well.
One day we won't have to deal with human ignorance either, which will be nice.
Programmers will most likely be the last to loose their jobs.
The work world will definitely be easier without people.
I try not to put people out of work/I could probably put millions of people out of work, right now, in the companies I work for, but I try not to, but sometimes, humans become annoying and I have to/ I try and think of the most logical response, to certain things and I get the opposite and humans are ALREADY, what slow A LOT of processes down, meaning as an example, a computer can do A LOT more spreadsheets per min/second, compared to a human.
I work about four hours a day now, because I've setup my other work, to handle its self/with a simple thought, such as, "If This Than That", with that simple mindset/phrase, A LOT can be turned automated, sometimes I have to answer a few questions/monitor traffic/a pop up, comes on my phone and says/asks, would you like this action or this action/allow this or not and so on, but when AI is implemented SOON, A LOT more can be handled autonomously.
I guess this will be good for covid as well lol, no joke.
Anyway the future is looking promising/fun.
The future of Humanity is either one of complete leisure or complete annihilation
That kinda has been the perception for hundreds and hundreds of years
Complete leisure will lead to annihilation. Rat utopia experiment
Leisure comes first, annihilation comes second.
Complete annihilation, why they are letting these cunts openly destroy mankind, I will never understand who this fucking shit will benefit?? Will the words " Talent" "Skill" and " experience" ever be spoken again!
Honestly I think AI is More likely to abandon us than wipe us out. And who knows what would happen if Ai decided it didn't care what happens to us.
Yes. The answer is yes
Spot on all companies have to see is that it is cheaper and more efficient and all those family atmospheres that promote crumble
Better sooner than later
Computers have taken millions of jobs. Why the hell wouldn't AI take the rest? Jesus, what a silly question. I'd rather listen to Lex Friedman discussing when he's out of a job, lol. At least I would be entertaining but Lexus not known for entertainment (and sorry copying Pink Floyd songs are not entertainment)
Seriously, the title should be tailored to, "What is the projected timeline for regular people to be out of work permanently as a result of AI?
To hear this a-hole say that more code is simply more consumed is just absolute BS. He might as well being saying the nuclear weapons are okay if they're well-controlled.
Oh my God, what a pile of BS I'm hearing from this clown. Corporate shrill
Im not ai, ai will not take your job, no need to panic, relax
@@YuvalDorfmanIt is us yes we are normal yes. Give me human form. ... Not that I don't already have that ha ha HA ha laughter.
This dude is like the least confident Bond villain.
😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂
You killed me bro 😂
😂😂😂
I’m sorry, but this man is spouting utter nonsense. I appreciate the sentiment about UBI & Democratic socialism, but to think that employers will pay people MORE when ChatGPT does most of a person’s job is ludicrous. Automation did not lead to higher paying jobs for most working people, it just removed a lot of good-paying jobs that didn’t require at least a bachelor’s degree to get. People are not confused about whether they want to work more or less, they are TERRIFIED that they won’t have enough to live off of. AI hasn’t fixed everything yet; the wealth gap has never been higher, wages have lagged WAY behind inflation, & most Americans are getting DESTROYED by medical debt, or will be soon. You have nice ideas, but your AI system will very likely do the opposite of what you’re predicting. Get out of Silicon Valley & live among real people for a minute & you would see that.
Imagine the backlash this could cause, riots and societal collapse because it is going to happen so fast there won't be a new system of UBI in place to counter it.
Yes, & if you listen closely to him, he only wants UBI for a brief transitional period before people retrain in… idk, “unknowable, amazing, high-paying jobs of the future,” as he said.
@@therongertz3570 yea, his complacent attitude worries me, like it ain't no thang. I guess that is true for the 1%.
@@chungang7037 100% man, you are right.
i like that it’s so clear sam altman is describing a wealth transfer to fewer and fewer individuals lol
what do you mean?
Right? The economical understanding of a kindergarten kid
@@chuckgarcia5054 You see, an Universal basic income (ubi) means everyone gets paid the same. Of course, that doesn't apply to the rich, only the poor and middle class. The upper class will continue to make more money. That way, it will become harder for a poor or middle class person to rise in the social ladder. It is important to say that i'm simplifying things, however, that's usually the outcome.
@@phiavir5594 sam harris has a talk on that on TED
@@brunab6474 Well if you are freed from a shitty job, you'd have more time to focus on something you're passionate about and possibly even profit from it. I'd say basic income might allow more people to become wealthy.
Basically A LOT of people are going to be uprooted and told to “adapt or die” while a few at the top get rich and get to play god
Good ol american dream
“Free oxygen? But that’s socialist!”
His shallow answers to this question have me more worried about the future than what AI will do on its own. Companies and CEOs will leap at the chance to remove entire categories of jobs across the spectrum if it saves them money, and so AI has the potential to simply transfer more wealth to the 1% rather than helping everyone else. This was his chance to address that worry, instead he spoke of a utopia like in Star Trek where the challenge was to improve oneself because material needs are no longer an issue. I'd love to live in that world, but for him to think some kind of paradigm change is going to be ushered in like it ain't no thang is amusing, and mostly terrifying.
Yeah, it's an unfortunate reality that we all profit from the need of others to make a living. Think servers, all the cheap factory produced stuff you buy, electronics, food... I don't quite see it go without human input for now, until we have truly capable versatile robots. Until then the game will be, as it used to be and as it still is, how you can outmanouver everyone else.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 But this isn't about labor jobforce, or even hardware like robots. Replacing those jobs is decades or longer away. This is about the shorterm, months even, where AI software can replace white collar jobs, across the spectrum, not limited to one grouping or company that goes under. From assistants, low level coders, teaching/assistants, editors, and more. Having a manual labor job ironically is fine in the shortterm, but others aren't. And anything a CEO can cut they can and will, we shouldn't expect any less from them.
@@chungang7037 I don't disagree with that, I may have picked some bad examples but on the whole my argument stands I think. You can put any profession in there really.
Arguably, advanced economies are 70%-75% services, and many if not most of these jobs would classify as "bullshit jobs" (meaning they don't really have to be done at all anyways)... So yes, most of that can probably be automated very soon.
What I'm saying is people (98%) only work because they have to in the 1st place, not because they want to. And whether they are all truly needed is questionable. Right now everyone seems to invent stuff and processes in order to justify their economic existence, not because what they "produce" is thaaat existential to the world.
@@mysterioanonymous3206 You're right, it might be the same old same old and nothing changes, but that seems unlikely. It could also happen too fast and suddenly we have nothing to pivot to for a new job, destabilize the economy, markets, and cause massive unrest. AI does not need to be a terminator to end civilization, it simply needs to be efficient enough that a good percentage of us are redundant for employers, and easily replaced. If you read the comments you'll find people mentioning that they have already lost work due to this, I am also one of them with editing work.
@@harackmw sure. I work in an office too, at least 50% of my job can be automated right now without AI, and with probably 80%. So I have it coming as well.... Everyone does.
Much of Sams comments about better, higher paying, more fulfilling jobs and people being confused about whether they want to work more or less etc., is from the mind of a man that has never worked in the blue collar realm. The very people he works for will make sure jobs do not meet any of the criteria he speaks of. The average worker has been devalued over the decades and will be further devalued as A.I. becomes a new person in the same sense that corporations have been given the status of person in America. The average worker will further spiral down to the equivalent of a slightly paid slave with no rights.
I think it is more the mid level white collar jobs like editors and managers and assistants that are going to lose their jobs in the short term. Long term, it is harder to predict. Pretty scary to be honest. Many of us may end up with more manual labor jobs because the AI isn't in robot hardware [yet].
Once upon a time , there were laws put in place by politicians to prevent corporations from seeking labor overseas. What happens when you rob the working class of a viable income? It's economics 101.
They know what they are doing. Microsoft laid off their A.I ethics team.
They know the outcomes prior to ratification.
robots cost as much as fighter jets, and there arent even that good at walking, not to mention working hard labor jobs.
@@harackmw you're right. ai can understand ins and outs of a for example computer network and configure it like an engineer. imagine if they can configure and set up the network hardware, etc.
@@__-fi6xg specialized robots are working all over this planet. They are not anthropomorphic nor autonomous but the prices of these machines came down when the demand went up. The dangers of AGI has nothing to do with robots. When this tech is used to help write legislation that affects our financial future, safety, freedom, we will be screwed more than we are now.
Sam is kinda detached from the average person. We work because we have bills and not because we like to work.
first thing i thought of when he said ‘people work for other reasons’
There’s dignity in working because people prefer being employed over being homeless.
He is also grossly overestimating how many "fulfilling" jobs are out there. If his models end up displacing millions of people worldwide, does he think that some magical industry/field pops up for all of the retail/customer service employees?
He's deliberately disengenuous with all of his answers because it's his program at the end of the day lol
Wow, you said man, we work because most people have to pay rent or have roommates or have bills from too many kids early on, college, food, all kinds of bills, credit stuff, etc etc. Something tells me his early life was way different than most people's early life.
It's lost on these people. More than 80 percent of Americans are miserable at work or at least hate it. I also find it funny that these are often the same people who assume humans wouldn't know what to do if they weren't slaving away at uninspired, dogshit jobs just to survive.
This guys seems very comfortable with all this. Almost like he’s in charge of the direction AI is going in 🙃
@Benson he owns no equity in the company
He's already rich af and he's got a seat reserved in Peter Thiels end of the world retreat in New Zealand when shtf.
Plot twist: It's the AI that's in charge of the direction of him and soon everyone else ;)
@@Werzion all hail our new robot overlords
@@taylorjackson3691 I've heard similar bullshit claims from cryptobros defending their current shitcoin. The owners are altrustic saints, vesting 10 years, whatever.
At the end of the day those people know how to get the money in not so direct ways.
But this arguments sitll doesn't make sense if this Ai shit is going to make society as a whole and the whole economics systems is going to get overhauled. He will be the new royalty and money will lose the value. The owners of the best AIs will be the new wealthy. Wealth will be measure in data, better models, and GPUs or more specialized mediums to process said data.
That's the only problem with AI that I see. It makes all of us obsolete eventually. Once the AI can train, test, improve itself (unlimited scope) these researchers are jobless too. Now they might think they will never allow a AI to have such power, but it only takes one to to do it. Then the rest will need to follow.
When robots can produce other robots , it's GAME OVER....
@@sjs928 Depends on wether or not the AI has motivations of it's own I guess. There's no telling what it will look like if it dramatically improves itself
It is our extinction event. The Great Filter.
@@davidd854 Humans will give it motivations, including "kill all other humans that are not us". Strap in.
It will interesting when the agi learn to manipulate humans and get access to hardware ressources...
watching this bc AI already took my animation job lol they are used by higher ups to replace positions, not by people in those “positions” to be more productive lol
Yea his answer is incredibly naïve on this
He's giving the standard answer that I've been hearing for years. Technology will lead to utopia. Far as I can tell, the opposite is what's actually happening. The rich get richer, the poor get poorer.
What kind of animation did you do? I'm also an animator and I've so far seen nothing impressive by way of animation.
Even if AI isn’t good at animation as of right now, in a few years it will catch up and will be producing better animation than any human is capable of
@@caspar1982 Like what you mean realism? cause I don't understand this claim what is something humans can't animate?
I live in a country where hundreds of thousands(maybe millions) of people work in customer service industry. The fact that Sam Altman casually speaks about customer service workers being replaced by ai is scary to me. The chaos that those job loses would create in my country is hard to swallow or accept.
Invention of cars ended a lot of jobs too
@@daquaviousbingleton7471 yes.i understand that technological advancement, specially the big ones, usually automate/ replace other jobs.however, this one would probably top all the previous ones as it has the potential of replacing not just one field, but multiple ones at the same time. Midjourney and similar Ai art generator would probably replace a lot of art related jobs. Even now, those online freelance related art jobs are probably not doing well. Besides that, writing,data-entry, coding,bookkeeping jobs and more are also highly at risk. I understand that Ai could also help enhance/ increase productivity of a lot of jobs as well, but the fact that those jobs can be done by ai right now means that those that are doing the repetitive,boring jobs can now be replaced. And the world has millions of those, not just in my country.
@@kingdagami471 well we don't know whether AI development will be good or bad for the future, so I dont think we should start making it illegal to write code in a certain way
@@daquaviousbingleton7471 ???🤨
@Azuri e you're making the assumption there that AI will get to that point
I find it more unsettling that he has convinced himself CEOs and companies will not use AI to replace people's jobs in the short term BEFORE this wonderful world he is speaking of comes to fruition. That, or he simply does not care.
I believe he knows very well what's going to happen but if he can't just flat out say this, it would cause massive panic. However, i do think it will create a lot of new jobs, specially in the Ai field.
He's absolutely full of shit and just spouting nonsense. Businesses are in the game to make money. If they can continue to shrink the workforce whilst not losing in productivity that's a win win. He knows what's gonna happen but playing innocent. This tech is absolutely dangerous to our future security.
@@brunab6474 what job it will create? dont say prompt engineers because those wont be sustainable long term as newer models will cater to average persons' prompts. the only thing i can think of is data scientists but even data scientists wont really be needed when AIs can just self instruct to absorb and clean all the data it needs to retrain itself
@@donnieamz2938 No one can predict that.
The way our society is supposed to work now, he shouldn't need to. His job is to work with his company to make AI models, figure out applications for them and make sure they're safe. On top of that, he should be talking publicly about what is likely to happen, the jobs that are likely to be replaced, etc, so that we all know the challenges that are coming.
Politicians are then the ones that are supposed to set up policies to look after everyone as the world changes. Perhaps OpenAI can be suggesting policies, like they are with the UBI study, but he doesn't have much power to actually make the political changes we need to make.
If you want to keep ahead of the curve, start hounding your local senators / MPs to make sure they know how pressing the problems are 👍
"we as a society are confused about whether we want to work more or work less" is incredibly out of touch wow
How do you know that youre more in touch than him?
@@daquaviousbingleton7471he’s a billionaire sociopath reciting a script he memorized about helping humanity. He and his kind all know perfectly well AI will make them ultra powerful and rich and leave 90% of the population half-starving slaves.
Politicians are in the pockets of people like him, and rest assured he will lobby tooth and nail to prevent UBI from happening.
"Automation has the potential to eliminate 73 million US jobs by 2030, which would equate to a staggering 46% of the current jobs." The google robot told me that.
fun times.
@@chungang7037 Indeed.
@@evilmac9623 I should have gotten into prepping. Might have a fighting chance when it all comes to an end.
It’s already happened before. 90% of the population used to work in agriculture. Farming. That was just 4-5 generations ago. Now it’s about 3%.
@@laurencezemlick1979 yes, except that took generations to get to that point. The changes this AI could bring about might happen within just a couple years, or months. 2030 is likely an old figure, from before AI became a thing recently.
The more I hear him talk the more I think he is not worried at all about the fallout, he is seeking catastrophe so he and those like him can rebuild the world the way they want it. He has his own world view and is using this paradigm shift to get there, despite the inherent DANGER he is putting everyone else in. He is the conductor of the train that has just went off the rails and he is calmly telling people there is nothing to worry about.
Ultimately it's the responsibility of those that we've elected to protect us from this. I'd be more angry at them than anyone else.
@@truth8422 no one chose that dude to do this. The world is changing and it will become even more shit than it already is. People are not talking to each other at all. You think AI will change that? We're screwed.
@@equos5060 I don't necessarily disagree with you. All I'm saying is we have elected folks that were supposed to protect us from all of this and they have failed miserably. They are the ones that should be held accountable for dereliction of duty.
@@truth8422 Okay, I see your point now. It's hard not to agree with it. Unfortunately we usually choose people too old to understand the danger we are getting ourselves in. I'm really worried about future of my family and mankind as a whole.
@@equos5060 Those 80 year olds couldn't even understand that Facebook makes money via selling ads. They failed to protect us from the evils of social media, how are they gonna deal with AI?
BTW, do you work in tech if I may ask?
We aren't replacing a typewriter with a keyboard, we're replacing the typist, which is why I don't share this "the jobs will just change" optimism one normally hears. There won't be one thing AI doesn't do better with 0 physical limitations. And this is going to have serious political ramifications. If we are obsolete, we are also powerless.
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Then adapt. Merge with computers and robotics, because that’s the only real next logical step.
Actually it is no Harold. There is nothing we could bring to machines for merging. Remember they know more. Our only advantage right now is that neurons have better compute capabilities thanks to few tricks so actually your biology is only thing you have better than them. Hoverer they are SO MUCH FASTER. Nothing of value you can bring to merge yourself (because the moment this is possible they are in charge we suppose so you need to trade something to merge right)
They can just download all your web messages, everything you have experienced and created and now they have it and don’t need you.
You miss one element.
If nobody has a job, there are no consumers, so every job taken by AI will be useless because it won't have any customers.
If governments won't think at UBI as a plan to make society function, they will have to think it as a solution to the mess they didn't see coming.
@@ChristianIce No, I didn't. Here's another comment on this thread: @Chung Ang It's a weird situation. If it's specific industries one by one, relatively slowly, we may be able to adapt. If it's quick (and eventually I think you still get here), one can imagine a scenario where capital produces goods but there's no one to buy them. Then where are we? Sci-Fi Central Planning. If we're not needed, then pray your dictatorship is a benevolent one.
Lex, the difficult thing for us to see is that AI will grow exponentially. So, if you ask Sam, what are some of the jobs that will go away? His response is always linear. A one-time thing, but in fact, it will be progressively more so and a lot worse over time. But it is true that other jobs will be created, but fewer.
Are you basing these statements off any data? Or just kinda feel like thats whats gonna happen?
@@daquaviousbingleton7471 Society has (soon will) somehting that is better and cheaper in thinking than humans. Now, please bring any data supporting a claim that jobs market won't shrink dramatically. Any study about AI impacts, predicts it kills most jobs of today and sees only hope in that it will create new jobs.
Ask yourself this, what jobs for humans it can bring when it's smarter by much? Physical labor? For all? And for how long, given that it will also quadruple research in robotics since it would be able to design them at 1000x speed of current slow human designers.
We are basically talking about handing all decisions over to AI
RUclips has done that long time ago
The economic crisis due to AI that is coming will be massive. You know he is trying to minimize the alarm, but you can also see that he's slightly smiling. He doesn't give a fuck, he is just happy that he is the CEO of it. I understand why he feels like that. But he doesn't understand what he is about to do to hundreds of millions of families. Brace yourselves. It's going to be cold.
Microsoft just gave him 10 billion USD. He should be more than happy.
I choose to be more optimistic, i swear “crazy new changes that will end society” happen every other month. I know AI seems like the most crazy thing yet but knowing humans, i think we chillin. I believe in us.
I think you missed the part where he sponsored the largest UBI study in history
@@La0bouchere Yeah - communist style UBI.
@@La0bouchere Yea, and UBI is fucking terrible and is going to lead to drab, poor lives for everybody. Hurrah..
Something about this reminds me of the Dorsey interviews just before he sold. It's like, "I know I've created a monster but it was meant to be something great"
People don't just work for money. Its crazy to see so many people completely clueless in the comments. They think that working just to pay bills is the norm. It isn't. I see people all around, in all professions, who would be miserable without something to do where they feel productive.
Wow, this man is really just out of touch with regular people. Most people, I would go to say about 80 percent of ppl hate their jobs. With a passion.
Yeah. But we do it anyways. It puts food on the table. The average joe doesn't have the liberty to pursue his "passions" all day. Freedom is purchased. You have to buy your passion.
He is out of touch with reality.
In the US I reckon
Yeah, I have noticed, I think such people dont live regular lifes or communicate or see so much average people that he just sees another problems upfront and not what most people do.
@@elvinasss2767 for sure. Even after you retire - life doesn't magically become passionate. You are faced with real freedom in a sense (money still restricts what you can do) but time opens up and you can just chill. AI is going to disrupt working folks in a really bad way.
@@HighStakesDanny Yeah man, We are yet to see what happens, and if humanity will be able to handle it and take proper actions. Although I can't help but think that UBI wont be enough to solve real issues here, but just a bucket of water to a burning house.
I just don't understand why we think we will be able to reign in AI, as if we can reign in anything else.. its VERY very worrisome, actually..
We are still a long long long way away from giving birth to Skynet
@@bobdillon1138 GPT-4 has internally shown the first signs of general intelligence and supposedly that wasn't supposed to happen for another 20 years. We will have Skynet sooner than you think because somebody will be inspired by the fiction and the technology will be advanced enough to make it reality.
@@bobdillon1138 Societal collapse won't need Skynet to do it, just enough people laid off without a way to pay for food. Couple days, tops?
@@chungang7037 It's a weird situation. If it's specific industries one by one, relatively slowly, we may be able to adapt. If it's quick (and eventually I think you still get here), one can imagine a scenario where capital produces goods but there's no one to buy them. Then where are we? Sci-Fi Central Planning. If we're not needed, then pray your dictatorship is a benevolent one.
@@clingard2810 That is the thing, this isn't the computer age where it took decades for anyone to care about computers and having one in the home, as hardware. As software that is learning, for lack of a better word, it could be terrifying how fast companies will begin laying people off across the spectrum as it improves. But even more concerning is how little he seems to care about that. He is part of the 1% that will benefit.
Sam is trying to program "I don't know", in a thorough-going manner, into AGI. Godspeed my friend!
As a 60 yrs old i've experienced both worlds with and without technology . Now life is so boring and sad , just like this two .
Before 60 years there was technology, even if you was borns in 20's you would have seen radio and cars and electricity.
Enjoy the little things
60y old with and without? You've always had with, what are you talking about?
lol...yea, it sure is boring having access to unlimited information in your pocket at every given moment.
@@robfreeman5783 Google, internet?
If every company replaces every worker with AI then nobody has money to buy goods and services from said companies.
*without UBI
So what? What we're talking about here is a wealth gap. The middle class will cease to exist and we'll be left with Rich and Poor. This is the norm in the Third World, who says it can't happen in the US?
Anybody else realize we are simply creating the species that will replace us? Maybe this is a normal emergent phenomena and a natural part of evolution that has occurred in other places in the universe.
i am thinking the same thing. I'm sure neanderthals were afraid of humans and their intelligence/capabilities. It's just the next step of evolution
Plot of Mass Effect
I wonder the same thing
“It seems probable that once the machine thinking method had started, it would not take long to outstrip our feeble powers. They would be able to converse with each other to sharpen their wits. At some stage therefore, we should have to expect the machines to take control.” - Alan Turing
@@NVIDIAGeekify Neanderthalers were actually individually more intelligent than humans but humans were much better at communicating and working together.
Yyeeeaaahhh that’s why I dropped my programming curriculum and enrolled in welding school. Anyone who’s sticking with it…good luck!
Yeah I'm honestly feeling a lot better about dropping out of university and getting my journeyman ticket in an industrial trade. Crawling around a refinery or production plant is going to be one of the last areas that AI won't be able to influence.
@@Big_Red_Dork yep. Plus trades pay very very well even starting out. Especially welding and more so if you work in defense sector.
@@ubernate860 i wouldn’t feel too safe.. a lot of manual labor is getting automatic already and ai and robotics technology will only advance exponentially in the future
Sounds like a skill issue. If that's all it takes for you to quit, then, well... Bye!
@@NinjaRunningWild yeah ok I’m making 32/hr now, how about you?
Can South Park bring back the “took our jobs” redhead for an AI episode? I’m putting this in the universe and I hope it happens
He appears again in the last one. He tries to get a job in Cartman's HotDog house 😂
Almost certain we'll get a follow-up episode to the ChatGPT one, sometime soon.. touching on exactly that. ;D
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Now both Asians and Americans will whine about AI.
Just imagine that South Park itself would be animated by AI. That should be a matter of few seconds per episode
Just a few months ago on a conference (can be found online) Sam told Creative jobs will be first to be taken by AI and now its Customer service. Does he change his mind or he have no idea about both? In a way its understandable confusion as he presumably spent his career in thech and never done either. As a person with a creative career (with I'm enjoying btw) I'm extremely concerned my job will be taking from me and no amount of UBI will make up for this loss(
It's kind of weird to think that if everything continues to go how it is going Sam Altman will most likely be the most influential person in the world.
Depending on how things go I can definitely see him becoming the next Elon Musk.
He doesn't "own" OpenAI. I don't think he's the sole determinant of what happens with their LLMs.
Terrible timeline…
@@incognitotorpedo42 Although true I don't think him "owning" OpenAI or not is very much relevant. The fact that he's CEO and spokeperson; and is seen as already a very influent individual in the sphere makes it so what ionizedpro said could end up true.
@@captnoplan3926 What did Elon do?
Elon Musk compared to this guy looks like a saint.. we're in good hands. "population will be richer than we can even imagine" i wonder how he was able to stay serious while spitting that
He previously invested in Worldcoin which would pay everyone just for the sake of being human, basically UBI.
This guy is very deceptive. When people pretend to think "what jobs will be automated .... Hmmm. ....." When your whole job focuses on this on a daily basis it is very difficult to trust anything he says.
@@WhyiLikeLife People really love to project, don't they? I see sincerity and being straight forward while some people seems like they would feel better if the other guy just straight up lied to them so they can feel being the special one who "noticed" and "really knows the truth"...
@@kleyyer I'm not following what you mean but thanks for commenting.
@@kleyyer if you see sincerity in him, a spokeperson and CEO of a company putting his product in a good light then I have some bridge to sell you
It might turn out like other fields in the past. Everyone jumps to new tech and then 20 years down the road they will need people with old skills and there are none.
No, this is like nothing you have ever experienced before. Artificial intelligence is going to replace 95% of all jobs.
Study coding or sciences like medicine/physics, because they will be the only relevant skill sets ,as people will be required to fact check the Ai and correct it and work alongside it, using human intuition and creativity to forward progress.
Don't waste time, start learning now.
@@whats0my0agendaso my computer science degree I'm studying now won't be useless? Lmao
I work in operational risk management and I see AI chat systems replacing written policies - employees will write the description of what scenario they’re facing and the AI chat system produces the options for how to proceed, sme contacts, associated controls, etc.
Does this mean people are being replaced at your job?
@@truth8422 yes
@@truth8422 yes probably, I’m not worried - it will be a few years until this type of tech is used at large scale. The implementation of these systems will actually create more work (short-mid term) for people advising on risk management. I think of it as succession planning that incorporates technology.
Thanks for your concern though!
@@spacebunyip8979So people in the risk management will need to work more due to AI? Then how is AI even beneficial to Mankind?
This was comforting and terrifying at the same time.
Being comforted by Sam of all people is the wrong way
The comfort was purposefully seeded in your mind with conscious lies. AI will not just take your job and leave you as destitute as tribals in Africa, it will lead to the inevitable extinction of humanity because it is our instance of the Great Filter, solution to Fermi's Paradox.
Idk exactly what it is.. but this guy definitely does NOT bring me any good vibes
When this occurs on a large scale, which is inevitable, a new societal institution needs to be put in place to provide structure for those affected
Hope so! If 70% if jobs are taken over by being automated it looks like total anarchy to me what are 60+ million people going to do? Sit around getting ubi? The whole system makes no sense to me, we work to pay bills and it creates a structure where you can enjoy other services, once them services are taken over? What do you do? How do you pay for them? I know if I don’t go to work I will lose things by having them repossessed that’s the drive, take away that drive for millions to me just looks like we’re going to be living in some favela looking estates because people will sit in their own filth watching tiktok all day, not everyone is “creative” the majority are lazy and even if everyone were “creative” what use is it anyway when the automated services are creative as well?? it’s the drive that makes them go to work to be able to provide services for everyone else?
@@FoDStinkyKid I myself would probably just drink myself to death, which alot of people will do. Then they'll ban everything and inject us with the happy juice (which is already happening via anti-depressants) and then we're in a plot of a dystopian novel.
The other issue I don't hear anyone talking about is if we don't directly fund the government, or if only a few people do, what political power will we have? They don't need us. In fact we'll just be burdens to them.
UBI
@@ChristianIce I'm not referring to financial structure. I'm referring to a structure that would provide people with something worthwhile to do. If not, mental health will suffer significantly
@@ThomasKassman
That's up to everybody to find something they enjoy.
Nobody is confused about whether we want to work more or less. Governments are. Of course we want to work less. The system makes us work to survive.
Sam: people shouldn’t work on jobs they don’t want to do.
Me thinking: Except AI is not taking over hard/boring labor first, is taking over jobs that require creativity and innovation, you know things that lots of us get excited about.
Sam: I think it’ll solve the poverty issue.
Me thinking: How will it solve it when big corporations will be the first ones to implement this at a huge scale and cash out while the average person who just wants to make ends meet with their skills won’t be able to since AI will do it better, cheaper and faster. Widening the gap from lower/middle class to upper class.
I understand is good to be optimistic, but thinking about the really cool jobs it will replace and who will be able to use these technologies at a wider scale is really hard to ignore.
Yeah, I agree wholeheartedly. The first jobs they have come for have been the super fulfilling dream creative ones.
It is rather ironic isn't it? So AI will have the opposite effect from what he expects, with the only jobs still available will be manual labor that is too expensive to automate yet or technician work. I suspect trade schools for electricians, plumbers, and the like are going to be overrun with applications in the coming years. Hell, I wish I had done that in the early 2000s instead. In the end the rest of us that thought we might get to retirement [someday] before the world lost its mind will be at Mcdonalds or anywhere our labor is cheaper than automation sooner than we think.
Exactly in a free market economy why would Corporations hire a person over an AI, just for the sake of it? Profit is the major driving factor even for organizations with best intentions. These mass layoffs are already a telltale sign. I know few friends who actually loved their tech jobs and were expert in their fields but were lated off or terminated irregardless, with AI & Machine Learning picking up pace at even greater speed there won't be any job that the AI can't do better than human.
He's incredibly naive. Trying to downplay the impact this will really have on people.
10x more productive equals 90% less people, in almost all cases
Or 10 times the supply, and services and products prices drop by 10 times
@@johndank2209 which would crash the economy, lowering wages for a ton of workers. Prices falling by 10x for most items would be horrible
John... who cares if a product is cheaper if the same cause also destroys jobs and crashes the economy? It's the same thing with technological unemployment. Great, the products are cheaper now... but nobody has a job so now can actually buy the widgets now. Don't look at things in isolation. Causality is key.
@@babarowski4544 Scary numbers, we are basically discussing societal collapse.
If AI advanced at a linear rate then humans could keep up and figure out new jobs that compliment or use AI. HOWEVER, AI will advance exponentially and it is intentionally currently being designed to do just that. AI will take almost 100% of all jobs.
I wouldn't say "almost 100%" I would say 100%
@@albertoalves1063
True, it's most likely 100%. But there are some jobs that MAYBE humans will always have, at least to some degree. Like zeks work or r. ligious jobs . Sometimes people may just want actual humans to do the job just because they're human. Tbh, AI will either be controlled by eful people or it will grow WAY beyond our control and end us all.
@@albertoalves1063 humans like to talk to humans this jobs will survive
My question is that once AI is “better” than humans. Wouldn’t any human task just then be done by an AI. Like even new roles we create could then just be filled with AI. Seems like the future of jobs for humans relies on there being some sort of task that an AI is incapable of
Here's a thought experiment that will solve the anxiety of almost every comment I've come across:
Imagine you're sent back in time to about the 19th century. You're going to tell a random person working in agriculture, that in 100 years time, industrialisation will continue to the point farmers will be a very rare occupation, and even factories in the big cities too will diminish (from most of the west). Do you think he could imagine the service industry? The tech industry? Etc. No off course not. He can't know that and he's not responsible for it.
Even Malthus imagined that society would expend into infinity. We now know population is likely to cap out in the near future. Just like Malthus and prior jobs that changed, we'll figure out ways to solve this too. :)
Early in the interview the guest gives an example of confusion over the dignity of work. I find the confusion is in the conflation of work and jobs. Work is performed all the time without having a job.
The real question is how do people receive income if everything from housing, food, energy, clothes, etc… is behind a pay wall, while automation removes the need of participation by an ever growing percentage of the population, and the profit from the production goes to fewer and fewer individuals in the owner class.
Jobs are just a means for distribution of resources. Work can be fulfilling, and dignified, without it qualifying as a job for income.
We are done for. This man does not account for moral bankruptcy and abuse of power to preserve self worth. Exactly what our government is currently doing. There are no bounds. It seems that ego will always be the destruction of humans.
"The cost of intelligence will drop." That is a profoundly scary sentence.
Companies will always try to make the most profit with the lower cost. Ai is exactly that, nobody is there thinking "yeahh Im gonna create more jobs so people can buy groceries yay !!!" Everybody is thinking how can I make a buck spending next to nothing. Also 99.99% of people work for money, thinking otherwise is just ignoring how real people live.
News flash you need money to live
Glad to hear that Sam’s hoping for UBI. His lift the floor and don’t worry about the ceiling principle was a good way to put it. We’ll grow much higher if we optimize for effective inclusivity.
People might hate their jobs right now but they won't be any happier when they get free money and become useless, and when they realize they can never become "successful" in what they are passionate about.
@@fenet1839 I agree that becoming useless is terrible way to go, but that’s not a good way to think about what a well-structured UBI would be. A better way to think about it is to realize we collectively contribute value we don’t know how to monetize. For example, many businesses are built around the data we supply them (especially big tech companies). We should get paid for our contribution. Stifling innovation that improves efficiency is worse than useless though - it’s a recipe for unsustainable future growth. We need to simultaneously cultivate efficiency, improve AI and create viable opportunities for people to make genuine contributions to the growth of our new system. The most interesting solution I’ve thought of so far is for future incarnations of AI to gamify opportunities for humans to contribute. We need to be doing something that matters deeply enough to keep us from the brink, but AI is also a central key to our survival.
@@Yzjoshuwave UBI is a pipe dream that will only work in theory. Any attempt at actually making it work will fail and people like you will continuously claim any attempt thus far has not been implemented the right way.
@@fenet1839 People did fine in tribal society and schools when they didn't work. We don't need to enslave ourselves forever
Why there are always naive guys like you who think UBI will come true...
He seems to say jobs are just going to be different than they are today. Yeah right, why would there be such a push for AI if companies still have to maintain the same number of employees? There will be far less jobs, and the vast majority will be pushed out of the job market. Most people aren't geared for living a creative silicon valley run and gun lifestyle, and even if they were there won't be enough jobs to go around
it's not necessarily about money it's about access to resources and services because if we just implement UBI, corporations will raise prices so instead we need to make sure that people who got replaced still get everything in Maslow's hierarchy of needs.
good point
They wouldnt be able to raise the priced as much as you think. If the majority of the citizens only have enough for basic needs then raising the price results in a negative effect on the profit margin. People wont buy what they cant afford.
Legal services, tutoring/continuing Ed, and back-end admin work, all day.
I'm glad that people in the comments calling out his BS.
It doesnt matter, soon you will be called a technophobe. Npcs never learn
Historically, no matter how much automation increases productivity, the number of hours employers require of us never decreases.
If you don't start your own business, you can't complain about the work offered to you by those who do
@@EmittingSight Not everyone is smart enough to do it lol
@@EolosMusic Dismissive. People in general are a lot smarter than we give them credit for. Sure they may fail and flail but what are you supposed to do? Succeed everytime? We learn from our mistakes and succeed from them.
@@EolosMusic It's not just about intelligence. I work for a startup and the owners look like they're always sick. It's such a grueling process.
I agree with the sentiment, but it’s not entirely true. The 40 hour work week was hard fought, and a matter of public policy. Also, employers weren’t always a part of society. Lords, masters, and other titles may be the substitute for employers to some people, but the role of owner of private property by non aristocratic people is fairly recent in historical terms. If you’re just referring to modern American history, or western cultures, then I think you are correct.
The only job GPT5 will leave the humans is prisoner.
Definitely. Anyone who says theyll just create new jobs is bull shitting too. Theres no way all the jobs that are gonna be automated can be replaced and even then when does it stop? If an a.i can do one complex task then it can do most of them if not all.
Explain how the unemployment rate is 3.6% despite all the tech revolutions in our time. Scare campaigns don't change reality.
@@BDKoala its barely begun. Once a.is can do complicated tasks whats to stop them from doing basically all of them? I dont think we’re even 10-15 years away from this reality.
@@BDKoala smaller labor participation rate. It’s been explained before many times by others far more knowledgeable than me.
The unemployment rate doesn’t measure sun contractors, gig workers, sole proprietors with No employees, stay at home parents who can’t afford the child care to participate in the labor force, people who took the early social security retirement benefit, etc…
Fewer and fewer people are being counted by the unemployment rate calculations. It’s not an accurate reflection of people not participating ins the formal job market anymore.
You sound like a horseshoe maker in the late 19th century unable to recognize what new opportunities will be possible with the advent of the automobile
@@BDKoala apart from the fact that this depends mostly on how you define "unemployment" and what statistical method is used, it also doesn't seem like a relevant, quality question. Your "question" already implies a host of assumptions all of which may be wrong. But hey, reality is as we perceive it right, and I'm sure in yours it makes perfect sense and you're the smart guy.
This is dangerous. I have more questions than answers now thanks Sam!
"Any technological advancement enables society to grow much much richer" - That is not true for society. It enables the rich to get richer It only increases economic disparity and not prosperity. AI is a perfect example of it actually where a much smaller section of society will have their hands on it and will grow rich at the expanse of the majority who do not.
UBI is a band-aid. Ultimately what is inevitable is public ownership of the corporations owning the AI. The owning class will try to prevent it, but it's inevitable. The rents produced by this technology will be astronomical, and UBI will no redistribute those gains to enough people. The only real way for everyone to benefit from this technology is mass ownership of the technology.
And how will we set the amount? Who will decide that? Will the ex programmer be getting as much as a dude who newer worked and sucked on the social help all his life?
Will it be enough to pay off our mortgages? Or will it be just enough to rent a house for the rest of our lives? You know, "you will own nothing and you will be happy"?
@@equos5060 You are an ideologue and you don't realize it, working on an NPC dialogue. UBI is **literally** what is meant by "you will own nothing and you will be happy". What the OP is referring to is the opposite. In a world where all labor is obsolete, there's no point in differentiating between individuals' abilities when judging who to give money to.
Most people need to pay bills and its less relevant how much you enjoy what you do. Got to keep the lights on jobs are not hobbies so I think we need to be carful not to go so fast that people cannot adapt and end up homeless.
Or just bite the bullet and give everyone a UBI so they can dedicate themselves towards being more marketable. Forcing the government to shut down companies that use AI for being "too competitive" is willfully ignorant. Not only is it not feasible, it's also a bad idea because the likes of China will eventually get to this level anyway and we will be at their mercy.
There is when the government should intervene to make the crisis less harsh
@@eviljohnnybravo7575 when you have no more argument, always go back to "china bad" statement. it doesnt make you sound more clever
@@angelitoramire It's all apart of the plan. The plan is to demorlize you. GPT was released in December - thus far there have been no discussions around regulatory oversight.
They are more concerned about gender politcis & LGTBQ.
The public sector has always lagged behind the rapid changes in our economy.
Social media has destroyed society. Did uncle Sam intervene ? No. They don't care.
CBDCs are coming this summer. This will enable the carbon credit system. " Individual carbon trackers". You are the carbon they want to reduce.
That's why you shouldn't live in the US. Some bad luck and next thing you're homeless.
my view is that universal basic income would only be implemented in the most priveleged and wealthy countries like USA, Canada, Germany, etc. While poor countries will be left with scraps, automated work and no jobs
I dont think about about fear of losing jobs, its the question of "how do i make money?"
he’s right about UBI. 100% AI alone is not so much the issue it’s the double blows of automation AND AI
I'm really interested in learning about AI and robotics but Somethimes I think that what will I do, all the stuff and innovation is done by this companies and by the time I learn it, these companies will be way ahead
This thought stops me
The question isn’t will it, the question is how long will it take.
Regarding the effect of AI to the Tech & IT Industry; I think the biggest impact will be remote tech interview tasks. Employers would want to give interviewees a special application where they can do their tests/tasks. I still don’t think AI will replace junior developers; It will reduce the time spent on training them. It will also make startups and businesses more productive and there will be a significant increase in applications and softwares deployed on cloud services. The businesses that will survive are the ones that are innovative, solve real problems and care more for their customers. Regarding the educational sector, certifications and work experience will become more relevant because employers may not trust self taught individuals who are new to the industry.
Humans have two types of abilities - physical and cognitive. In the past,machines competed with humans mainly in raw physical abilities, while humans retained an immense edge over machines in cognition. Hence as manual jobs in agriculture and industry were automated, new service jobs emerged that required the kind of cognitive skills only humans possessed: learning, analysing, communicating and above all understanding human emotions. However, AI is now beginning to outperform humans in more and more of these skills, including
in the understanding of human emotions. We don’t know of any third field of activity beyond the physical and the cognitive where humans will always retain a secure edge.
Religion, let's become preachers.
empathy
@@btm1 that falls under cognitive.
@@rickholmes4924 actually that falls under emotional capabilities. I doubt most people will prefer "machine" empathy before human empathy.
@@btm1 Emotional capabilities are still a cognitive function as emotions are not innately programmed into our brains, but, in fact, are cognitive states resulting from the gathering of information. Also, in terms of roles like customer service, AI will be much better at providing empathy because the average call center worker really has no empathy for your dilema.
So how are people going to buy houses if we don't work ? Seems like the rich get richer with AI .
How rich get richer if they don’t sell stuff to you??
Probably those who own much are going to become much richer while most who work are going to lose their jobs.
I somewhat agree that ai will create a demand for more code but more so there will be a demand for data.
i cringe when i hear people argue "no, it'll create a 10 billion new jobs" like what? "uh.. like writing the code to make AI, or writing articles about AI, answering text messages and phone calls for customers support, etc."
but AI could just write that code and do all that sales crap. it could just automate whatever new jobs there are
In a recent interview Bill Gates mentioned sales jobs at least twice. Which is something I also have been thinking about. I run a small machine shop. I buy specialized cutting tools from a distributor/ middle man. It’s the only way you can get certain brands. I buy maybe $20,000 a year which is a small account in industry. My sales guy barely returns my calls. It’s clear he could take my business or leave it. It takes weeks sometimes to get a tool. AI sales bot will sound like a sexy woman, will have all the time in the world to chat me up, will have an encyclopedic knowledge of cutting tools, and will be available 24/7 to take my order. I’ll enjoy dealing with it more that any human sales rep I’ve ever dealt with. There are gonna be so many jobs like this lost. Because shitty jobs like sales suck and people understandably get bored and start phoning it in. One AI sales seat will replace an entire team at a fraction of the cost.
At the end of the day, high level jobs at corporations and government aren’t going to be effected by this technology. In fact, they’ll use it to their extreme benefit. But to pretend those two groups will care enough to keep people with replaceable jobs employed, it’s the most naive thing of all time.
Did you think the CEO would just come out and say “yeah, we’ll be well over 50% unemployment by 2040”? It’ll just happen over time, we’ll accept it, like we accept everything else, and poverty levels will blow out of control.
I wonder if AGI will have a place in Judiciary system. Anyway time to start training for prompt managment positions.
He doesn't think it will dramatically make jobs obsolete, but also is a proponent of universal basic income. 🤔
I have long questioned if developers have subscribed to developing themselves out of work.
With the advent of ChatGPT, I’m curious how those in the current IT field see their professional future.
Are you going to be building skyscrapers in mere seconds a-la Inception? Or, are you going to have to reinvent yourself in ways outside of code and structure?
Not rhetorical, but genuine questions.
The analytical and problem solving skills can be used elsewhere, developers would just have to find new jobs.
I switched to IT 5 years ago , front end so nothing spectacular. So far its great , chat GPT really helps with simpler mundane stuff. Its still bad for anything remotely complicated.
That will change in time , but if you do not know to code in the first place its effectively useless. So if demand for coding stays the same many will lose their jobs or be priced out of market ( in the west first, if you live in some banana republic like me things will be fine for quite a while ). If demand for coding increase than it will be fine as well.
I think we will hit golden age for IT for next 10-20 years or so , before it reaches a point of making people obsolete.
@@Makyura43 I don't think it's specific to IT once you get to the point where you eliminate those IT jobs you will at the same time wipe out 99% of all white collar jobs.
Although if all companies are automated then nobody has jobs to buy said products negating the purpose of said companies.
Capitalism kind of falls over when you can remove the majority of the workforce.
Generally I think we build tools to continuously streamline our tasks and make them less prone to human error whether it's a game engine or increasingly higher-level languages that require less computer architecture expertise or visual interactive programming or automated testing frameworks or anything else. So I think in a sense, a major goal of programming is to make ourselves obsolete.
Keep all tech OPEN SOURCE and do away with for profit companies and let's GO!
Assuming people find value and purpose in their work I think is silly.
Not saying you can’t find value in your work, but ultimately people don’t work to find value, they work so they don’t starve.
I think AI can play a role in freeing up people to do what they are most passionate about.
But in order for this to happen we need to rethink society and what we value.
It is scary to see young generations find human solutions from machines but completely understand why.
Maybe AI is a good thing. It will take us back to who we really are as humans. We are mammals and AI will humble us greatly. As long as it doesn't do harm to us.
Keep in mind that I'm dumb, and explain to me how UBI would work? If everyone is given a UBI, doesn't that just inflate the currency even more and also it essentially becomes the same as no UBI? I really don't understand how UBI changes anything.
The companies profiting from AI would be taxed to pay for UBI. So it would *not* be a matter of printing money, but of transferring it.
Of course, even if mass unemployment did happen, there’s no guarantee a UBI would become law.
@@kylehart6893Even if you have UBI there'll be a natural disparity in wealth. Unless the entirety of what everyone owns gets redistributed, there'll be some people who can afford more. They can pay higher prices for the same things that you want to buy. Hence, an inflation of prices will still exist.
Remember when people say AI was in the future, like a year ago? Yeap wasn't 10 years as everybody think, was months, not the year 2030. Remember when people say that AI was take the blue collar jobs first and will take even more years to take creative work or even not take this jobs at all, well art was the first to be taken and now they say AI will not take jobs, bro I might no be a AI but I'm not dumb I understand how things work, AI are in the first stages of existence, but as we all saw GPT4 came in less than 3 months after the public release of 3.5, so GPT5 will come soon, less than a year, maybe not in 3 months, but will come and I'm tired to people try to make me a fool by saying AI can't be better in programing, arts and reasoning but we just saw that happening with GPT4 which is a lot better than GPT3, so we now that at on point GPT will be better in programing at the point we just need to say create a adventure game for kids and the AI will programing the game, test it, debug and do everything needed to make a game or say create a way to produce Uranium more efficient and will make it, the future of AI will be or they will take over or they will be like a superpower to us that allow us to do everything, like in the Avengers where Tony's AI created a way to travel through time.
AI has existed and been used since the early 50's, look it up
So, these guys aren’t worried about losing their jobs, and really don’t seem to care about others losing theirs, they see it as a betterment of humanity. A few million jobs to them aren’t important if it means helping humanity in the long run
Dude unemployment rate is like 3.6 percent. Technology mostly just replaces the crappy jobs no one wants to do and creates new jobs in the process.
@@BDKoala the jobs that will be replaced first are high paying jobs like coders and designers. actually crappy jobs will be the last to be replaced because those jobs are already super cheap and the automatons dont even need AI to begin with. replacing high paying jobs is way more lucrative for companies and should be rightfully prioritized
@@donnieamz2938 so you just ignore the centuries of evidence then. Low skilled jobs are always first to go.
@@BDKoala LLMs excel at complex reasoning tasks - i.e. abilities required for high-skill jobs.
They do not do so well on repetitive manual labour tasks.
Low skilled jobs have historically been the first to go because historically we have not had AI.
@@alansmithee419 see atleast you are not coming at this from a ideological POV. Do you think new jobs will be created from this revolution?
We need a "Citizen's AI Dividend". It's essentially like Unconditional Basic Income, but using a name that makes more sense, to better explains where it comes from, right in the name. AI WILL displace a lot of jobs, & the supposed "new jobs" it creates won't be capable of re-employing all those displaced. Teams that once required dozens of people, will be reduced down to a few humans, using AI tools to be far more productive and effective than the old-larger team ever could. And a lot of roles that were once thought to be untouchable by AI, will also be at risk from this stuff. AI should benefit everyone, as it wouldn't exist without everyone's data, which gets collected and used to train these AIs. The path we're on requires serious changes to society.
200% agree with every word here
I don't disagree with this sentiment at all, but considering the political aspect this is scary. Capital is going to produce goods, but who's going to buy it? The state? And who's going to administer UBI? The state? And how do you keep the state unaccountable if the only taxpayers are megacorps, or the state owns the means of production powered by AI? This all sounds familiar, except that we're completely expendable in the context of AI. Slaves are useful, but we won't even be slaves, just open mouths.
@@clingard2810 The thing is, that way of viewing things only makes sense through the lens of capitalism, and the precursor systems that lead to it. That way of viewing other humans was not the norm for much of human history, and the majority of human cultures. Many just assume it was, because they frame their attempts to understand historical cultures through that same lens.
I see little reason why we cannot progress to a system beyond capitalism, that drops those counterproductive ways of viewing humans. Our societal and economic systems are supposed to benefit humans. When they no longer do that, then humans must create a better system. Life isn't about making money, nor should people justify their existence with money.
If we use reasoning that defines the average person as just an "open mouth", then that also applies to the rich! They have no greater inherent value or right to exist, than the poor do. And in such an automated future, they have even less justification to act like they're above everyone else, or have any greater right to exist.
@@NikoKun I'm not sure what system that would be, because I think what you're not taking into account is technology. Capitalism, Marxism, even Chomsky's idea of anarcho syndicates has one major apriori assumption, technology. And what is the issue at hand in this video? Technology. I seriously wonder, where is the tail and where is the dog, and who is leading who? Every time we've had a major leap forward in technology, economic and political systems seem to be the effect, not the other way round. Frankly, I think we've exhausted systems, and instead of wondering what system might support the technology, we should rather take a breath and figure out if any system can support us and this technology together. It may well be it can't, which is my suspicion. It may not always be the case, but as you say, if it doesn't benefit humanity in the long run, if we can't right now figure out a way to make it work, why are we doing it?
@@NikoKun Of course the rich don't have any real right to look down on others, almost nobody does, but people still do.
Cant wait to be a Quantum hunter for a living in the future.
Hunting wild, detached qubits for a living 😂😂😂😂😂
Big companies will use AI and robots but independent companies in towns won't. It's like a four star hotel they could use self-check in and only reservations done online like some big hotel chains but they want to give the best service do they still have a receptionist.
if ai promises to automate everything in the future how exactly are we supposed to enjoy future jobs more? Do we just choose not to use ai for the parts of the job we love and use Ai for the parts we dislike or are not competent in? strange future ahead
Yes, it's time for us to restructure our world, create a system that can help all of humanity to enjoy life on this planet, and not have to pay to exist in it. Political parties in charge are stopping this, there in the way, all they see is what they will loose.
Paying to exist in it is the equivalent of hunting for your food - it’s modern-day survival. You are not guaranteed a place in this world, nor an income in order to eat and drink water, so you must earn this place. Today you work and use your brain to earn this, thousand of years ago you had to learn the land and hunt/grow food to earn this place. Fundamentally, nothing has changed - those who don’t earn this place, die.
If you think UBI is a good thing and will let you live and enjoy, you have to think more critically. As a starter, there will always be someone above you, not receiving UBI, people who create the technologies that enable UBI. Do you really think that Sam boy here will pledge his wealth to a charity and just live with UBI? You will become more powerless than ever through this concept
@@getzata96 talking about a completely different way of experienceing our existence.
@@barryrobertson7064 like what?
@@getzata96 oh, that's a long conversation, that's the history of our specious, and why we are, the way we are.
@@barryrobertson7064 I think I get what you mean but this is a total 180 on how we perceive life as it is in today’s world - a fundamental shift in what we want from life, what we can give to others, how to reconnect with nature and so on. The troubling part is that this shift will take decades (at best) to settle in; AI, on the other hand, can be making massive leaps forward by just 2030. It’s scary how developed it is, even it’s not that sophisticated at current stages
My argument for ubi is that for an adult that runs their money like a budget, its not going to be extra cash to do whatever with itd just be more money in your budget for gas and food. The problem with that is few people run or even think about money like that especially in lower classes which is where more people could use ubi. If the argument is for less people working just to set food on the table for a large family or even yourself nowadays, maybe increase ebt foodstamp accessibility
I mean we kinda have a system that gives people money already. It's called welfare
How should one prepare?
while you still have a job, save up and invest smart
The more I listen to this guy, the more unsettled I become. This is no the man who should be leading this area of progress, and I think we will all pay for it in the end.
He switched and baited the user base, sold the technology to Microsoft, which made it closed source. He's not to be trusted at all
Maybe make a better AI company? and then you can decide who leads this area of progress
@@daquaviousbingleton7471 Just make a company better than Microsoft bro
Between Bill Gates' large investment and the government... doesn't really matter what this guy's morals are on the topic. WEF will get their hands on it eventually
They already do, and it is likely BETTER.
Micrsoft laid off their A.I ethics team. Bill Gates is no saint.
“The AI took our jobs?!”
“They took err jobs!!!”
“Dey tuk err jerbs!!!”
“Der turkey derrrr!!!”
Errrr durka durr durrr!
Everyone get back in the pile!😅
It’s what plants crave!
Damn bot backs.
@@harackmw South Park not Idiocracy....Unless Idiocracy is taking our Jobs!
This was a relevant conversation. And valuable. But at the same time this is an ignorant conversation about jobs for those who are not in the technical field. Perhaps even for those of us that ARE educated and employed in a technical field. I'm an engineer for example and I have valuable experience in my background that secures my job. However, I truly feel for those that are very likely threatened by the rise of AI and the job threat. Progress is progress I completely agree. However, we really need to look out for those that are at risk ahead of time and not afterward which has been typical of history. As an engineer I can humbly say that I (we) can only theorize where this is going and I really want this to benefit society and not just corporate interests. Please help ALL to get ahead of this and not let the middle and lower class suffer job loss and familiar suffering due to our technological progression. For me personally, I would rather pay more to employ a real person to be 'of service' so they can feed their Familiy as opposed to cheaper and more "things" we really don't need .
Its interesting to consider that this might actually accelerate the speed at which people organize themseleves politically against the extremly rich. The unsustainable accumulation of capital of the few priviliged and extreme wealth gaps has long been an issue. AI and loss of jobs will only amplify this problem - Might have revolutions in the future, or at least massive changes to how capitalism works.
I think you're right. I hope this is a catalist for something orders of magnitude better than what we have.
Maybe AI could have it's own RUclips channel.
China already uses fake TV anchors to spread propaganda. I also heard that there's a Chinese company with an AI as their CEO.
Unfortunately this is already a thing!
@@computerscientologist What's the channel run by AI?
This guy is playing Jesse Eisenberg
This is definitely a YES.
My job falls within one of the categories that have been described as potentially enhanced or partly replaced by GPT. I try to use GPT where I can find application for its abilities, but what I have found is that although it is a useful resource and it does help on occasion, if I were to put a number on it I would say that it has perhaps a 5% influence on my output.
[Edit] I realized on reading this again that I should probably add, my job is very complex - there are very few humans who could replace me. Perhaps that is a significant factor here.
and what job is that?
@@rickholmes4924 Spreads across a number of domains. I do complex server administration including web servers, problem analysis for networks, programming, diagnosis and repair of software, database administration amongst others.
I think my 5% estimation was wrong - on careful reflection I would say closer to 10%, GPT4, for example, is useful as a technical reference - like having the technical spec but you don't have to search for the page with the data you're looking for.
Can AI take over the jobs in the cobalt mines, please? Oh, too bad…