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"The Grey Knights shall be kept as a secret for the Imperium and every citizen aware of them shall be executed" meanwhile the Grey Knights are wearing unique shiny armours with massive books strapped to them. Grimderp/20
Legit if they just wore armour of other chapters noone would know shit chaptermasters know about them anyway so they can cover for em if needed no need to murder poor guardsmen and citizens
@@olorin3815 no Astartes of any chapter or Legion engages in such Purported Habit, tactic or stratagem, Astartes we're never made to operate covertly, as secret as their existence must necessarily be kept
Yeah that whole story about the "incorruptible" Grey Knights killing the sisters and covering themselves in their "blood" to prevent being "corrupted" by the "Blood God" is both top shelf derp and dumb. Maybe GWs lore masters took that day off work.
I'm so glad they retconned it in later editions, now the GK need innocent blood to perform the banishment ritual to send all the deamons back to the warp, and the sisters volunteered theirs. THAT'S the kind of tragic sacrifice stuff that says grimdark to me
@@retrospectus From retarded lore breaking cruelty to a noble sacrifice. Thank fuck they fixed that, the writer of the original grim derp moment managed to massively disrespect the sisters of battle and the grey knights at the same time.
So…fucking…true. Even after they are newborns, when it gets too quiet, you start searching around the house to see who is hiding in a cabinet devouring a bag of candy!
@@CwayNJ609 I agree, I live next to a highway. When I used to go over to my mates place that DIDN'T live next a perpetual noise machine, I struggled to go to sleep in fact over the years living here you sub-consciously tune out the trucks, cars, V-rods so it sounds quite all the time. Just thinking about the noise the motorway makes brings back the sound, the noise. Its very weird.
For me a big grimderp moment is when the AdMech were fighting Tyranids and a Skitarii Alpha came up with a plan to release highly flammable toxic chemicals into the air then ignite it with neutron lasers. The FLAMING SKY resulted in any nid reinforcements burning up in the atmosphere setting the ground forces on fire. This utterly amazing and effective strategy was archived, filed away, and then forgotten. Like seriously, you have a really effective and OP way of killing nids and you just “forget” about it?
To be fair, great ideas have been lost and forgotten in real history as well. Just like that time Hero of Alexandria almost unleashed an industrial revolution during Antiquity.
@@zackcook5123 Yeah, read about it. It is pretty cool... and depressing when you think about how far we could be at this point if things had gone that way.
Yep, having a debate about the stupidity of psyker Geller fields (the logistics alone would collapse the Imperium within a week) on another comment thread and had a GW fanboy (or employee) going that exact place
A parody of what? And if things are not supposed to make sense I guess I can just write a story about Grey Knights allying with a Khorne warband to kill a bunch of exodite eldar that were minding their own business and feed them to the tyranids. What? Its not supposed to make sense right?
The Grey Knights derpiness reminds me of how they fought alongside the Tallarn Desert Raiders against a massive demon incursion. After the Tallarn guardsmen and Grey Knights successfully stopped the incursion, the Grey Knights slaughtered all the remaining Guardsmen because "HURR DURR YOU WITNESSED US AND DEMONS LOL". If you really wanted to keep it secret then why not induct the guardsmen as a support army for the Grey Knights/Ordo Maleus considering they are now probably pretty good at fighting demons. It just seems stupid.
Anyone that actually supports this is just looking for more grimderpness. It's actually fucking retarded the grey knights are reduced to I'm the most pure and incorruptible and I also murder the innocent because why not??
@@deron2203 What's funny about all this is that they're supposed to have a piece of armor called the Cuirass of sacrifice' as to never forget the regiments that fell to extinction fighting alongside them. So you think they'd have more tact regarding friendly fire.
From what I can tell, I think the Grey Knights prefer to try to get the Guardsmen killed in battle. Enough Guardsmen _will_ turn the tide against a Daemonic horde, but leaves a lot of loose ends to deal with, so I think the Grey Knights plan their strategies so that by the end of a major battle or a campaign, _most_ of the cooperating Guardsmen have already been slain, if not _all_ of them. They _deliberately_ plan their campaigns so that any witnesses are likely to die when and where they can be the most useful, meaning that there may only be a dozen Guardsmen left to put down by the end.
I would like to see a senario where after Grey Knights finish a incursion, and kill all the guardsmen. Than one day later another wave of demons pop up and the Grey Knights would just be by themselves afterwards. Its going to bite them in the ass eventually.
Most things about the Grey Knights honestly sounds like it was written by an edgy 12 year old trying to make his homemade chapter the bestest and hardcorest
As a new-ish fan I've gone through what I think is a standard progression of thinking the grey Knights are the most mysterious - coolest - most badass - edgy - questionable - dumbest - please stop chapter in 40k
@@mugenokami2201 Sounds like one of the few things they'd colab on. That and some meme (since those can act like mind viruses but both have something to contribute.)
The dumbest part of grey Knight trials is not the difficulty involved considering they need to be incorruptible I think that is fine It's the non stop mind wipes that are grim derp any lessons you learned during your trials removed anything that gave you a strong will from your life before the trials deleted it is counter productive
this^ being mind wiped every 30 minutes is already silly enough (and i'd imagine that giving brain cancer in the first 6 months of service to one of the best of the best after spending millions in resources creating and arming him would be kinda counterproductive) but doing it to a powerful psyker whose power literally comes from their high intelligence, knowledge of the way the warp works and powerful imagination is just cutting their legs off right from the start... might as well mind wipe them, take their brains, use them as fuel in some form of weapon that gives you a warp shield or fires warp energy bolts then give those to normal space mehrines...there...just saved the imperium 10million imperial credits per soldier each day, made the space marines even more op and grimdark AND saved the environment by creating a way to recycle all those powerful and juicy psyker brains.
@@thewhompingwampa2671 :a wild nurgling appears: grey knight 1: "aaaaaaah what is that thing?! kill it with fire!!!!" :purging follows: grey knight 2 : "ufff we survived the day...lets go home for some well deserved rest" grey knight 1: "yeah...fortunately for us it's not like we'll fight weird things like these every day!" :goes home, gets mind wiped: :next day->wild nurgling appears: grey knight 1: "aaaaaaah what is that thing?! kill it with fire!!!!" ...
I am impressed that nobody talks about the grimderp way the Inquisition handled the rightful protest of the Celestial Lions. The Lore paints Space Marines as an extremely rare and powerful resource for any general or admiral in pretty much every theater of war. Like a single company of around 100 Marines tipping the scales of entire sector spanning wars. So nobody in his or her right mind would go around and make it their life goal to wipe out an entire chapter of highly loyal Marines, especially in a war like the one for Armageddon. "Ork Snipers" are a meme for a reason. When the Celestial Lions left Armageddon with less then 95 Marines, without any Apothecaries, all Gene Seed of their fallen brothers lost and damned to rebuild their strength for generations before becoming a fraction of the force they once were, the Inquisition had to kick them further by denying them the means to create Primaris Marines, denying them reinforcements, when their homeworld was destroyed by a warband of Chaos Space Marines and send out a Callidus assassin to kill their Chapter Master. At one point in that story the Inquisition could have left it as a message send loud and clear, but they had to go even further out of pure spite. That nobody in said Inquisition tried to intervene in that kind of destruction of allied forces, or any other authority of the empire for that matter, is also highly grimderp.
Thats because a fraction of the inquisition are literal heretics who think that Big E wanted eternal War. So they do anything and everything to gimp the Imperium anytime it gets a win.
I remember when I first read (or rather listened to the audiobook) the first Eisenhorn novel the sensibility of the inquisition was kind of jarring. Before that my knowledge of them was they were basically an exaggerated to the point of comedy version of the Gestapo. But the Eisenhorn books have them being a grounded, multifaceted organization that genuinely has the best interests of the Imperium at heart.
@@aceofspadesguy4913 For every dozen inquisitors, there are at least 2 who should be removed from office/purged for causing more harm to the imperium than good. This is the way I have always viewed it, the fuck ups tend to stand out more than the successes.
The problem with the inquisition is each individual inquisitor gets to decide what they think heresy is. So you end up with a bunch of assholes, extremists, and crazies mixed in with the sensible ones.
Yea that was completely insane. And here's the thing, the Celestial lions were a pretty nice chapter of dudes, before they got pushed into the arms of chaos by stupid inquisitors.
I've heard a few stories from city kids who had a little freakout when they went camping for the first time, and if people can live under train tracks and get a full night's sleep living in a baneblade would be fine and could definitely lead to sleep dependence. Just think of it in terms of the kinds of sounds. They wouldn't be random, it would be the same engine, beeps, and servo sounds repeated regularly. That's exactly the kind of stimulus that can become subconscious, it's the same mechanism in your brain that lets you hear when the engine of your car sounds wrong
Same here, lived near the Main Street in my home city with constant traffic noise day and night, and definitely had problems sleeping without that background noise to the point that I use headphones with white noise to sleep now.
there have been studies about sleep, as long as the noise/shudder is relatively consistent, you will fall asleep in about 10 minutes. if there are surprising or random sounds, that's what keeps you up.
Your brain can in fact become addicted to noise in cities like Beijing and Shanghai some people develop something called the hum where they were so used to the loud constant noise of the city that when they move to a place that is quiet they may start to rock back and forth and make humming noises cause they feel uncomfortable without all the noise of their 24-hour a day City.
sure! But since WW1/post WW1 we have crews almost living in their tanks, and we do not see these effects, atleast since rotation of units is commonplace. If the Big smelly E can't get this right well ALL is lost.
@@MrOstereier theres a difference between living in a tank fot one war and as you say they would get rotated so there only in the tank fot a few months vs being stuck in the tank from when your old enough to serve (16-18) till your tank gets blown up. Thats a whole other level of ptsd
One thing I find funny about GW and them getting all high and mighty about their IP is how often they will "borrow" ideas or pay homage to other IPs. It's kinda funny when you start to think about it
Warhammer 40k is just Dune-ship troopers. They copy everything, and then copyright all of it. Entire genres of space sci-fi were non proliferating and dead for decades because of them. Their existence has taken an irreparable toll on culture that they can never be worth.
During my first tour in Afghanistan (2003) we found out that the locals called us The Helmet Wearers (there were lots of SOF at Asadabad and they wouldn't wear helmets when they left). The story was that we had to kill our own mothers to get the helmet. I take a lot of the grimderp as similar stories.
Another big Grimderp moment was what happened in the story, "Death of Integrity". To give context, Archmagos Plosk meets an AI from the DAOT about 15,000 years before the current setting of Warhammer. In that story, the AI tells the Archmagos how the ship warp traveled in time thousands of years into the future. The crew saw the future of the galaxy, that it will slowly be consumed by chaos. When the captain went to the nearest planet to warn humanity, he and his crew were called heretics and brutally tortured to death. The Grimderpness in this situation is the length that the Imperium goes whenever they hear about stuff from the DAOT. Yet, when people from the that very timeline, with working technology to back up their claims, come to your doorstep to warn you, no one, not even an Inquisitor, someone from the Mechanicus, or a Noble decided to do a thorough investigation on their claims. Not even the threats involving chaos, which anyone in a position of power that is loyal to the Imperium would take seriously. They just simply label them heretics just to show how much humans have fallen from their prime.
First off it's the DAOT, an event where events like the the men of iron eventually occurred and humanity became superstitious about a.i, and those who don't worship the emperor must die. It's not that hard to understand, while they did saw the future, the inquisitor wouldn't be able to find any evidence to see If their even telling the truth to begin with. It's like if someone told me the big bang will happen next month, there's no literal evidence to back it up. So why should I believe some random crazy person.
Excluding all the fantasy elements shit like this happens all the time Good people getting silenced, censored or killed for trying to help those around them is a very common thing throughout the ages.
RE: Baneblade crews, extended stays in noisy environments can definitely make quiet weird and uncomfortable, albeit not absolutely maddening. If anything, I would assume Baneblade crews go nuts when deprived of their tank because it's a fucking tank and it makes them feel safe.
Can confirm i used too live near one of the noisiest streets in my country and it led too me having a hard time sleeping without the sounds of cars going by, also yea it is probably something too do with them not beaing near their machine spirit people become ridiculously attached too their cars and give them personalities now imagine that car has a spirit and an actual personality.
Baneblades are literally houses. Moving fortresses. It wouldn't surprise if they had tiny kitchens and bathrooms. Definitely some bunks so they can skeleton crew at night and get some sleep
I disagree with that part of the BA recruitment. The way they have to kill each other in several rounds of combat is way more stupid. They are put in the Sarcophagus because it rapidly ages them to adulthood and grows all of their organs except for the Black Carapace. Dante goes from small, malnourished, lightly mutated boy to sexy Neophyte in just a few months, same for his friends that made it. What actually makes them go insane during that coma are the Visions of Sanguinius that come with the Gene-Seed, so they would've gone mad anyway sooner than later.
About the Baneblade crews: I live in a sparsely populated country in Europe. A friend-of-a-friend who lives in the dead-silent countryside had a Japanese girl over once, from some densely populated city like Tokyo or Osaka i think. She was stressed out AF because of the ROARING silence. This phenomenon was unknown to us at the time so we didn't understand what happened to her. But her mental health was quickly deteriorating and couldn't take it so she had to go back in less than week. I know an old woman who runs a farm in the countryside who welcomes volunteers, to work for food and education, who had a Hong Kong girl over once. She also had to be sent home within a week. She was also stressed out by the silence and lack of people. So the family of course helped her to the airport.
gives Sound of Silence a new meaning. But I agree. Me and a coworker were both transfered from the city to a rural area. But while I came to live at the mainstreet where there is constant traffic noise to a degree he ended up next to the fields. Told me he had problems to sleep at night cause it was so silent in his flat that he could hear the buzzing of a fly. I had no issues at all.
The most powerful Chaos god is always GameWorkshop. They can make up so many ill thought-out plots and contradictions that would make the four Chaos gods looks like amateurs.
Tzeench looks at the 6th Chaos God and goes " I cannot see any future or plans, you're just rolling billions of dice looking for a hit...maybe you should try to take a break?"
The Kroot were an expanding space faring empire that fought the imperium of man on the planet Patria for 47 years creating the regiment known as the Fists of Lagus. Found in the top left of pg 28 in the Imperial guard Codex from 1999. Derped 3 years later and they are now a bunch of Neolithic savages found on 1 planet used by the Tau as meat shields.
Then you remember that the Space Wolves were basically designed by the Emperor to put the hurt on _other_ Astartes, when necessary. No matter how busted the Grey Knights are, they are still, first and foremost, Astartes. That makes them _prey_ to the Space Wolves; _dangerous_ prey, but prey nonetheless. The Space Wolves are too independent for the High Lords, however, so they ended up needing to create the Minotaurs to bash whichever Chapter was bothering them at any given time instead.
I really hate it when GW retcons stuff such as the Gellar field being a thing of science and technology to something like a comatose psyker just for grimdarkness. Aswell as it seems that only the super humans get new toys while the Guard gets fuck all. Is it too much to ask for new equipement for the Guard I'd take a reformation of the Solar Auxilia with their better equipement. Would prefer equipment like tanks/IFVs that are more in line with our Modern militaries such as remote/servitor controlled turrets.
BTW, how would that work? psycher get corrupted by Warp all the time, even more when using Warp power when in the Warp. But this one psycher can use his power to protect the whole ship and there is no risk?
They do realize that that recon essentially means the psyker can never be woken up, due to the fact they would probably have gone fucking nuts in their sleep right?
Autoloaders have been a thing since World War 1. I can see the Mechanicus having superior ones that require far less manual input to operate, but the rest of the Imperium would still use them. Not having those would doom their ships to be annihilated by every other race.
But thats literaly stupid... they will never go to war with any other faction of the Imperium. All this would achieve is their own destruction because their allies run out of ammo slaves.
Well that would make sense for some insane levels of technology, not loading mechanisms. Plus even if that was a case, every space battle fought by the imperium would be probably lost, as using slaves just doesn't make any sense from several points of view
The bullet blessings being "blessed blood" makes even less sense not only cause blood blessed or not would ruin the bullets but there's also the fact normal sacred oils and stuff EXISTS in 40k.
The whole conceit of "Grey Knights have to kill loyalists when they see them" was a lame attempt to justify why the Grey Knights would fight certain factions in spite of being incorruptible. So, having written himself into a corner, Matt Ward decided that the best way to reconcile it would be to make the Grey Knights incredibly stupid... y'know, instead of just... not resolving it at all. Grey Knights infighting other Imperial armies with your buddies around a gaming table (and various other lore-breaking encounters, like Tyranids and Necrons, or Sisters of Battle and Tau) is one of those things probably best written off by the MST3K mantra, rather than trying to justify it in universe... poorly. For a similarly-themed palette cleanser, there used to be a section in the old 3.5th "Daemonhunters" codex that was devoted to the reasons that Grey Knights would fight that faction. And the Chaos entry read something to the effect of "...seriously?" That was admittedly pretty funny.
I just don't understand why its not just agreeing that the game and lore are separate, having to justify why games have astartes vs astartes matches so often is so dumb.
@@joedatius Maybe there wouldn't be so many Adeptus Astartes vs Adeptus Astartes matches if GW didn't push them so hard and almost force everyone to have Astartes.
@@joedatius They could have just said “The various chapters sometimes compete in war games.” But who am I kidding? This is the same company that willingly threw away millions of potential profits in free advertising just because they wanted people to watch their shitty animations.
Actually I find that whole loss of technology a bit grimderp. I get that inovation is extremely limited, and that some technologies are limited to certain forge worlds, since admechs are assholes and want to keep the best things for themselves, but c'mon. Like you are telling me that imperium lost the technology to built different rounds for autocannons, but still can built gellar fields, warp drives, plasma and grav weaponry and far more? I see how they could lose some kind of hardcore tech, but often its just something that could be easily reinvented back from other, still available, pieces of technology (which is something that admechs do a lot). Another example of this is that one kind of warship, thats so big that nobody knows how to build it anymore, but admechs will then proceed to build literal moons and space ports surrounding whole planets
They probably do know how to do it (after all they do worship technology), but dogma is a big thing. I´d like to imagine it goes a bit like this; " Look, I conveniently found the STC for this piece we were missing and totally didn t reverse-engineer or invent it".
@malfuy Actually its the best grimdark part of 40k. Its not just that they lost technology its that they don't believe in it. Humanity died to AI in a war in the dark ages of man. To invest in and study what almost destroyed humanity is dangerous. So instead they worship the emperor and collect relics of old tech. To research new tech is heresy. Its the 'death' of knowledge that makes 40k so scary
@@seanbirtwistle649 well that would maybe be the case if Imperium actually worked like that. However, in lore, there are numerous examples of admechs (and sometimes even other factions, like Astartes or the Inquisition) reinventing or straight up inventing new stuff. The whole thing is more like "yeah we feel a bit grimdark today so we will randomly forget how to make ammo for 21st century-tier weapon, but we will invent an extremely advanced biotoxin which will destroy the whole hive fleet tommorow". Completely grimdark theme is good for tabletop, artworks and other stuff like that, but when you actually want to make some dynamic, believable and enjoyable stories taking place in that universe, the whole setting has to be somewhat functional in the first place
i could understand why baneblade cruisers when they're constantly in a fight why silence would make them extremely tense, with the amount of bullet bruising their tank and explosions happening almost non-stop around them, silence can only mean one of two things: dead people, or death and since they're clearly still alive it means death for them, plus they could've been bio-enginereed in way that conflit makes them feel more comfortable, but with the opposite when it's too calm, doesn't seem too far-fetched in a world like warhammer40K
The grimderp of the grey knights had me thinking they were the strongest. Then I learned about the custodies and realized how derpy the Grey knights lore is.
IMO the Grey Knights should be stronger than Custodes. Not in physical contest sure but in a real life and death fight ... a custodes has no chance against a Grey Knight ... then again I would argue that any Librarian can zap a custodes... but whatever.
@@MrFallenone a custodes is supposedly immune to psyker powers due to a strong psykic( ? psykcic? psykic?... using brain powers!) imprint made on them using the emperor's own power which makes them shine in the immaterium as if they had a golden halo surrounding their souls (or heads? cant recall...) they're effectively like blanks except they still have...you know...souls and empathy and dont make a whole ship feel uncomfortable when they leave their cabins to go pee and all that the thunder warriors also supposedly had the same...improvement...but the emps considered it was too much work to go around single handedly protecting his marines minds one by one when they could just fall dead from a stray bullet the next day so he just did that to custodes and left all the others fall to cha...i mean...less protected...
@@pedromoura1446 not really that just makes them immune to corruption of the mind and soul has shown in both the tabletop game and in various novels the moment they face a proper psyker that doesn't rely on bending peoples to their will and without the company of sisters of battle they get trashed this is why the sisters of battle are even a thing No thunder warriors weren't immune in fact when exposed to raw warp energy they instantly degenerate into hulk-looking berserkers
Yo Major, since you made a video on loyal marines from traitor legions, I was wondering if you'd be interested in traitor marines from loyal legions? since apparently in the lore, all legions had traitors, even though I've never heard of any of them other than the fallen dark angels.
There was a whole ass event where several loyalist chapters were sent to the Eye of Terror to perform a repentance Crusade by a corrupt Ecclesiarch. This basically created a ton of traitor warbands, and I think only one of all those chapters sent stayed loyal in the end.
The baneblade crews makes some sense. Think of it as a form of ptsd. Its like the people who get a taste for battle and cant function in the civilian world. Seen a few guys like that while i was serving. They just get this look, like a mix between a thousand yard stare and a shark eyeballing a tasty baby seal. With the amount of combat in 40k and how hard it is to get out of the IG, i can imagine those guys suffer that stuff a lot more than soldiers do today.
The Macharius novels have that thing were they follow a crew trough the years of the campain. I found that aspect even more interesting than what's up with mighty Lord Solar.
This reminds me of the Warhammer 40k vs, lore searching and lore contradictions. Aka.. 1,) The Guardsman being painted as useless piece of shits, who can't do anything, and are only there to blow up, but in other lore they are described as well equipped, well geared, with power armor support, anti tank, and superior tactics. As in proper soldiers. In other lore you can use them even against Chaos Space Marines in defense or whatever. Bit of a stretch. It's just very contradictory at very many points. I also think that transporting, feeding, training, and arming, millions of Guardsman, just to throw them in the grinder and kill them off for "grimdark" is stupid. 2,) The second is the equipment grimdark. Aka having 10 Terminator suit left in the Whole of Imperium, Such Rarity, Such Devastating Pain of Losing a Holy Sacred Relic, and than they lose a 100 of it in every battle. But also, the logic of recovering them. If that Terminator suit was lost, 99%, whatever killed it, just destroyed it. It's also piloted by an Astarte. Limbs lost, getting cut in half, organs lost, still fighting. But somehow that Terminator suit is "whole enough" to be recovered, repainted and it works again. Logic. Leman Russ. In one lore all of them are made so well, that they can shrug off heavy weaponry, and like they are so durable they bounce when a knights cannon fire hits them. BS. Really? BS. If that so, what stops them? Well Orcs are so much stronger with their shitty scrap shoota, or they cut it up with knifes. Yeah, also a guardsman or anyone can blow them up with wh40k RPG-s. BS. All the way. This is "fixed", by other lore saying, that most forge worlds just can't make them well! They run 60-80% less than what they would be capable, and the crew pretty much dies of smoke or noise pollution. ~Grimdark. Or simply, the Leman Russ is a modular OP tank, like T-90-ies were, but they are also cheap and mass produced. 3,) The last one is the gear problem. Aka, how strong a lasgun is? Base it on the lore. One lore says, that it's heat based, and so it blows up water. It's really dangerous to humans, but, not really at anything else that's water and meat based. Orcs are fungus, so it doesn't work. It just leaves a small hole. Why? They have blood. They have plenty of water. Well, they are stronk! Get used to it. Okay. Tyranids. They have even more fluid? Nope. Also doesn't do anything. It's just dumb. Doesn't make a sense. They are also horde type of enemies. In other lore, it does make sense. Unless you hit a part of the Tyranid carapace, the strongest point, you can pretty much decapitate them. Same with Orcs. No scrap? Dead Orc. Pretty much just cuts it up. Blows his chest open, blows head off, blows arms off. Fungus soup. There are a lot of contradictions in the lore.
That’s the main problem I have with 40K, these tanks are supposed to be absolutely strong but if you look at the actual stats and what materials they have, they would be shredded by Modern Tanks in terms of Armor, Weapons and More. Yet a Lemon is somehow able to just be bounced like a ball when hit with something absolutely strong. Consistency is as reliable as using cardboard to be a bowl for water.
@@Predator20357 Absolutely. Leman Russes are know for being mass produced. They are the mid-category, where arming it more, just doesn't worth it. Because it will die anyway to stronger opponents or anti-tank methods. It's mass produced in mechanicus presses and fastly assembled. Great design. Easy to make. Good protection and reliability. But it's not going to bounce of a knights cannon and it has plenty of counters.
the tank crew, going crazy, has real world proof. i worked on off shore oil rigs and they are loud! its never quiet, and when u get on them you cant sleep but after 2or 3 days you stop hearing the loud noises and you just get used to it. but when you get home, the quiet is so loud and deafining it will fck with you for a couple of days till you get used to being home. so i hope this helps.
imma say it, grey knights are just one massive grimderp moment, like the grey knights as a whole aren't exactly contradictory in of themselves BUT like 80 to 100% (depending on who you're asking) of the writing around them are made almost entirely of massive "I'm sorry what" moments
7:06 This, I just disagree with it. There is a too far in grimdark too, when it's just over the line. Every ship that travels uses a Gellar field. Even travelling in-between planets can take years. That much grimdark, is just too much. It makes the setting unloveable and psychotic. Aka there are transport ships, small ships with 10-100 people. Those too have a tortured psycher? And the small to big ferry ships transporting food and resources? It's very close to grimdirt. I think this could still fit to be in the grimdark category, maybe. But at that point, it's just easier to sympathize with orcs, hoping they would destroy humanity, than actually be interested in any of the lore.
Bruh it's called the warp, the immaturium, of fucking course it'll take years, it's not star wars hyper drive, plus they never said it would take years. And no psyhers don't get tortured in small ships all the time. Food resources usually arrive on time aswell as other resources. You're literally complaining for the sake of complaining for something that is explained in websites therefore you think "Noooo it's too edgy". News flash it's really notm
I realized the grimderp when I read about two creatures and couldn't think of a reason they would exist outside of being grimdark. The first is basically a sugar glider, it starts off nice and friendly but after a couple generations it turns hostile and becomes a carnivore, literally it does this to gain trust before turning into meat eaters and attacking. The second is literally called a face eater, so you can probably guess where this is going, it looks like a piece of cloth and it's strategy is to wrap itself around the victim's head, forming a airtight seal, secrete acid to melt the flesh, and dig barbed spikes into the victim's face so it can't be pried off without tearing flesh, there is no reason why a creature would evolve to become that.
The Face Eater is native to Catachan, a Jungle Death World. Catachan is explicitly mentioned to be the end result of an ancient Tyranid invasion that managed to mutate and warp the biosphere and ecology of the entire planet in preparation for getting devoured by their Hive Fleet... except that the Hive Fleet never showed up to eat everything, and the Tyranids eventually lost their connection to the Hive Mind and devolved into these horrible, degenerate lifeforms that make up the entirety of the food-chain on Catachan. These creatures are unnecessarily terrible and grimdark because they are ultimately still Tyranids, and _Tyranids_ are a faction that exists _exclusively_ to be unnecessarily terrible and grimdark.
Honestly, I think it would. The Iron Warriors just wanted a way to birth Marines more rapidly. The fact that they don't care about the suffering they inflict _is_ their particular brand of evil. On the other hand, the Night Lords wage a war of terror on the Imperium. They wouldn't keep the Daemonculaba a secret. The Emperor's Children would make it even worse for the lulz, all just because they're cooked in the brain. X)
The Gellar Field retcon is especially stupid because it's so easy to rework to give whatever brainlet that thought of the idea a pat on the head without throwing away the idea entirely (because I assume they're high-ranking enough that that's not an option). Basically, if you want to keep the comatose-psyker idea and also be grim _dark_ without being grim _derp,_ then just make it that there was a 'discovery' in some distant sector of the Imperium where a sufficiently-damaged vessel required a truly deep dive into its otherwise sacred inner workings...only to discover a comatose psyker as the source of the Field. Then there could be some genuine investigation and debate among the Inquisition (you know, Eisenhorn stuff, where it's actually pleasant to read and not insane garbage) about whether they should make this information known to the necessary parties or if it should be suppressed because it's understood that obviously not _all_ ships work this way. Hell, throw in Inquisition-connected representatives from the AdMec that are similarly torn by the idea of either A) torturing loyal machines in trying to see if they contain heretical tech or B ) wanting to do _just_ _that_ and peel apart presumably-faithful machine spirits and their vessels to ensure their purity. And it could end with them just collectively realizing that it's far better to just let things be. Whatever arch-traitor that started the practice is probably long dead, and there's more harm to be done than good by grinding the Imperium's infrastructure to a halt in the name of potentially turning one of its biggest internal allies (the AdMec) against it. It could even be distinctly bittersweet, as the fanatical purists among the AdMec representatives are put down and the more humane Inquisitors are given a choice to fall in line or suffer a similar fate (with the dilemma not only being for the pysker, but presumably also anyone on a ship that thinks it's a machine protecting them only for human weakness to condemn them to a fate worse than death). See? It adds to the misery of the setting without pulling the rug out from under the basic principles of how the universe works. Easy.
Never used to like major kill now he's who I watch and listen too when I'm feeling down. When thinking of my parents death you bring a smile and laughs out of me on a subject that really doesn't have any. Thanks for all the ENTERTAINMENT!!!
It is amazing what a mixed bag W40K is. On one hand, there is some really cool and interesting shit, but then they drop the ball so hard you have to stop and ponder about the general competence of people hired by GW, as well as GW themselves.
I’m sorry but I have to be a Timmy here. “But Majorkill, writers write Inquisitors this way to show that not every Inquisitor is a smart person who knows the necessary steps to saving the Imperium. Some Inquisitors do indeed go mad with their power or get completely paranoid at how powerful or illusive Chaos can get. Hence the months of shame.”
After hearing about the implications of some of these moments: “Smart, very smart!” (Anonymous Kasrkin) “A sound tactical move!” (Tau commander) With a sarcastic tone of course.
I always imagined the 40k lore to be straight from an imperial library. Sometimes spot on. Sometimes filled to the brim with propaganda and superstition. So if you don’t believe certain aspects, that’s totally fine.
The climax of Devastation of Baal was a double dose of grimderp ex machina. A Daemon Prince was able to overcome a binding from Mephisto (psykers should have been rendered to gibbering schizoids from the shadow by this point), manifest through the shadow in the warp, completely shatter the Hive Mind causing well over 50% of Leviathan's net losses, then the Swarmlord skewers Dante like a summer BBQ only for Robot Girlyman to show up at the last possible moment to clean up the mess and somehow able to miraculously heal a dude who, by all rights should have been split clean in half. Girlyman saving the day I can let slide. Effectively ignoring what the Shadow in the Warp does to progress the plot, fuck no.
Ka'Bandha is a Greater Daemon not a Daemon Prince Great Rift>>>>>>>>>SitW Another way to counter SitW is to use more Warp power. It's all about power when it comes to the Warp
@@christiandauz3742 This has been literally the only time SitW has been completely removed by force on such a scale. There have been numerous occasions where other smaller fleets have gotten closer to the GR with even more greater/Prince daemons without completely shattering their synaptic link across the entire sector. The author could have written this part much, much better, like having a full on daemonic incursion, not one single daemonic entity.
As soon as he explained grimderp, I immediately thought of Vulcans unnecessarily shift of character for that incident where he burned an elder child alive. Almost like the author went all “Vulcan can be edgy too…”
HAHAHAHA I’m Venezuelan and as you were talking I was like “yeah unless you live back home” and then you dropped the bomb, that was priceless brother!!!! 😂😂😂 I’m pretty sure I’m the only dude from there who plays 40K btw (I live in Florida so now I get to play a shit ton, don’t be sad ladies)
I think that Eldar Ranger being eaten alive in the Tau Codex (3rd ed I think) was a bit grim derp. Like I get the Kroot are supposed to be savages but come on, that's a bit much. I mean who wants their food to fight back?
Apparently the kroot since their whole culture literally revolve around going around eating literally anything they think it's edible and can mutate them into a stronger form
Regarding the Grey Knights, I think they are depicted pretty logically. Considering their selection process, you would certainly not expect mentally healthy, balanced and rational soldiers to emerge.
I would have believed the “can’t leave my baneblade” if it was them feeling like a god and indestructible inside vs being a frail basic dude outside next to other guardsmen.
I can actually relate to the bane blade crew when it comes to sleep. I have hearing damage from my time in the military, and it's much easier for me to fall asleep with some sort of background noise rather than it being completely silent. Because of this, I tend to throw something on the RUclips app and set the timer to go to bed easier.
4:20 idk man....in my time in the military, I've been sent to combat oversees and have been exposed to some noises I'd rather not hear again. But the one thing that really triggers my PTSD is silence. At least with noise you can some frame of reference, control, knowing. The worst sound for me is silence because it's....well....silent. It's a fucked up trigger to have to live with and I deal and cope with it on a daily basis. So, yeah, you may think this is grim derp....but this is just life for some people.
03:04 I always take a big issue when franchises do this whole “only the strongest will survive” stuff. What a great idea to sacrifice some of the greatest fighters there is, instead of grooming them to their full potential. It also makes the Grey Knight look pathetic if they die in droves in a given mission.
every time i see a space marine die in a non heroic way all i can think of is that they went through all of that training of being the best of the best of the best, being able to be genetically compatible with the gene seed, and not dying as a scout marine, only to die instantly to a bolter round or something similarly dumb
What about that SPAAG vehicle they added to Astartes a few years back? The one where "specifically trained serf was being turned into servitor in most brutal way possible" because somehow the task at hand was too hard for Astartes pilot using neural interface to control the vehicle in the first place and purpose made cloned servitors?
You mean that type of astartes tank (i think it was a rhino or a predator tank variant) that uses guided missiles that are created by turning a servitor into a missile?
Yeah, a few of these moments and memes have always stuck with me. I remember when I got into the hobby, back in '03. I was sad that things like the Emperor's Custodes weren't going to get model ranges, nor the Primarchs of each Chapter/Legion, and then I found out about the Grey Knights. I think they had been there before; I remember seeing an even older, more baroque, pewter mini, and think they occupied a space similar to the Inquisitors, where they could just be added to certain lists. When they got their Daemonhunters list, I was excited; they were like Custodes-lite, with their fancier armor, their NF halbreds, integrated storm bolters, and a "roll to hit me" rule almost akin to invul saves, all for the price of 25pt/unit. They've been my favorite chapter of snowflake Space Marines ever since...and then they pulled stuff like other people can't be allowed to see them and live, or the incorruptible Grey Knights couldn't be exposed to this taint, but then they found these Sisters, and... and it wad just really dumb; not "I carry but don't invite a Daemon sword" dumb, or whatever Draigo trying to best portray Constantine Valdor is, but dumb. Still my favorite Space Marines, though. 😆
I feel like the manual loading of specific munitions would come down to imperial red-tape. Like the missiles must be loaded "by hand" because theyre too volitile and dangerous to be done by machine or its some kind of, almost, ritualistic thing
the Banebladepart isnt grimderp. Ive been in naval deployment for almost 3 years straight due to me jumping from ship to ship just to keep going on operations. by the time i was done with that, and my government finaly noticved that i shouldnt do that i was unable to sleep for days without serious medication. you see, on a Military ship, you have a vent blowing air into your face nonstop while you sleep. the first thing, the Techies do when there is a Fire on the ship is turn that off. so that you dont accidently suffocate or poison the whole crew just ebcause theres a fire in one room. that happens even before the alarm is rung. my hotelroom didnt have the constant noise of 50.000 Horsepower gasturbine engine humming in the background nor the vent constantly blowing in my face. the lack of noise and the alarm of "the vent is off, there is fire!" kept me from sleeping. you might not lose your shit right away, but if you are depraved of sleep for days because your body is in nonstop alarm-mode due tot he lack of noise and ratteling around you: you will go nuts.
I love the names you have for your prints, "space elf death lord" I assume is maugan ra and not to mention the "space elf long-looker" LMAO. I really need to invest in a printer, but at the moment I'm working through a massive backlog of models from my vlka fenrika and imperial guard armies.
I often wonder if my custom lore for various armies is any good. Then remember some of the writers that work for GW and realise I could probably be published.
For me it is the Space Marine trials for new recruits. And the related art work. It looks great, it sounds though ass and the art depicts it as two huge Arnolds duking it out or wrestling some monstrous alien. And then we’re told those are pre puberty boys of like 10 years old. I now it’s the 40k world, but even Cadian kids only just have learned to snipe at that age. And we’re to believe 10 year olds are supposed to pass current day special forces recruitment tests and then hunt for their own breakfast that must consist of a facehugger, two Predators, Chtulu and a T-Rex.
the big issue is how its so fucking common, when every fucking chapter has a whole set of stupidly complex then it just makes them all not impressive or interesting.
I would say the penitent engine and mortifiers, I get the idea for harsh punishments for cowardice can lend into the grimdark but these vehicles just sound like they were written by edgy 13 year olds who main Dark Eldar, what a lot of GW writers need to understand torture needs to be grounded in reality and be actually believable in order to have an impact on the reader. Just read any Joe Abercrombie torture scene and compare that to 40k grimderp. Also Dead Sky Dark Sun. If you know then you know.
I've heard it said that the ships use humans because their "cheaper", but when you need to feed them 2,000-2,500 calories a day, plus a couple of litres of water, as well as air, sleeping quarters, ect. they end up becoming quiet expensive in cost, logistics and combat effectiveness.
Grey Knights: We must save humanity from the chaos... by killing everyone! We cannot trust the living to resist the chaos, we must save them from themselves! See at this point I'm wondering if the Grey Knights have already BEEN corrupted...
Leman Russ Tanks use the same engine as Panther from WW2 (230 V12 Multi-Fuel) To quote real life wikipedia "The Maybach HL230 was a water-cooled 60° 23 litre V12 petrol engine designed by Maybach. It was used during World War II in heavy German tanks"
I love the grey knights and blood angels but the trials are sometimes just stupid, like you sacrifice millions of potential soldiers just to get 1 superhuman soldier who "MIGHT" just get one shot by a powerful enemy leader anyway. Think they could lower that number abit or give a good reason why so many people have to die like it gives the Grey knights some kind of power boost as they watch their friends die or something....not just like lul many peple die, dis darkkk
The baneblade thing reminds me of this hilarious movie called My Cousin Vinny. Basic gist is that this Bronx lawyer comes to rural Alabama to defend his cousin in a murder trial, and three nights in a row he can’t sleep: he’s woken up by a factory whistle, then a train going by, and then a screech owl. But then he’s held in contempt of court and taken to jail: cut to him sleeping like a baby as a prison riot rages in the background.
Dude, about the Baneblade thing: while doing my service I wittnessed a sergeant sleeping while he was leaning on the motor of the tank we were driving. Also, I find it quite relaxing to sleep while Motörhead is blasting on full power.
yeah my least favorite thing about the Grey Knights is definitely the whole "you cannot know of their existence" but like, the warp is somewhat known????? Just be like, "oh these are totally Ultra Marines, dont look into it, Guardsman." The chances of that guardsman seeing an actual Ultra Marine is so slim that they would probably believe it
As Outsider looking into the Lore. It seems like the theme of fighting against the dying of the light, but some writers and fans want it to be completely hopeless. Like the return of RG and his gradual fixing of the Imperium actually being a beacon of Hope, but also him knowing that some aspects of the Imperium he can’t get rid of quite yet…
So each weapons of grey knights requires a pious man's life So when they partice their aim basically one man died for this And when they miss a shot one man died for this When they slaughter sis of battle then decorate their armor with their inside one man died for this And the dumbest part is that daemon are basically immortal, and can respwan at will so what is the point of the guy that wrote this bullshit
@@kreamcream1720 i can already hear the techpriest... "for today's recipe of 'diy servitors' we'll 33 kg of magnesium, 22kg of plasteel, 45kg of ceramite, 2 big dak...i mean...sacred bolter guns and 100kg of fresh human. it also works with preserved human but i always seem to get better results when the brain is still working...so...first of all..." :chainsaw sounds and muffled human screams:
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Your teeth are beautiful. Just wanted to mention that.
Please do lore on Eldar exodites and corsairs please
A grim deep moment sepheris secundus is just unfiltered grimderp in a form of a planet
Inquisitor: "We have to save this Imperial planet!"
*saves planet*
Inquisitor: "Good job everyone! Now destroy the entire planet!"
We did it Patrick! We saved the citizens of the Imperium!
"We are here to save you!"
"Hooray! It's the Inquisition!"
"From yourselves!"
"Oh no! It's the Inquisition!"
@@Necroxion Boondock. Saints.
@@Necroxion "From yourselves" HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA
"The Grey Knights shall be kept as a secret for the Imperium and every citizen aware of them shall be executed" meanwhile the Grey Knights are wearing unique shiny armours with massive books strapped to them. Grimderp/20
Yeah because the uneducated masses who likely never see an astartes would be like "hmm that's clearly a special top secret unit"
Legit if they just wore armour of other chapters noone would know shit chaptermasters know about them anyway so they can cover for em if needed no need to murder poor guardsmen and citizens
Also, almost most of them are either aware or deal with Chaos.
Cadia, Ministorum Priests, and Sisters of Battle.
@@olorin3815 no Astartes of any chapter or Legion engages in such Purported Habit, tactic or stratagem, Astartes we're never made to operate covertly, as secret as their existence must necessarily be kept
These decorations are for protection against the immaterium
Yeah that whole story about the "incorruptible" Grey Knights killing the sisters and covering themselves in their "blood" to prevent being "corrupted" by the "Blood God" is both top shelf derp and dumb.
Maybe GWs lore masters took that day off work.
I'm so glad they retconned it in later editions, now the GK need innocent blood to perform the banishment ritual to send all the deamons back to the warp, and the sisters volunteered theirs. THAT'S the kind of tragic sacrifice stuff that says grimdark to me
@@retrospectus From retarded lore breaking cruelty to a noble sacrifice. Thank fuck they fixed that, the writer of the original grim derp moment managed to massively disrespect the sisters of battle and the grey knights at the same time.
Where was that even from? I can't find anything on it when searching for it...
Matt Ward. Primarch of grimderp.
DAMN YOU WAAAAARD!!!
“Imagine not being able to sleep because it’s too quiet.”
Please remember these words when you bring a newborn home from the hospital.
So…fucking…true. Even after they are newborns, when it gets too quiet, you start searching around the house to see who is hiding in a cabinet devouring a bag of candy!
Or living in a city. It's. Never. Quiet.
@@CwayNJ609 I agree, I live next to a highway. When I used to go over to my mates place that DIDN'T live next a perpetual noise machine, I struggled to go to sleep in fact over the years living here you sub-consciously tune out the trucks, cars, V-rods so it sounds quite all the time. Just thinking about the noise the motorway makes brings back the sound, the noise. Its very weird.
I have to have a fan/RUclips video on all night to sleep, sleeping without that white noise is noticeably harder.
Yeah, a quiet child is not a good thing
For me a big grimderp moment is when the AdMech were fighting Tyranids and a Skitarii Alpha came up with a plan to release highly flammable toxic chemicals into the air then ignite it with neutron lasers. The FLAMING SKY resulted in any nid reinforcements burning up in the atmosphere setting the ground forces on fire. This utterly amazing and effective strategy was archived, filed away, and then forgotten.
Like seriously, you have a really effective and OP way of killing nids and you just “forget” about it?
Haha but that’s definitely something the Administratum would do
Probably because it’s tooo OP
To be fair, great ideas have been lost and forgotten in real history as well. Just like that time Hero of Alexandria almost unleashed an industrial revolution during Antiquity.
@@gustavoritter7321 hold up what that sounds interesting?
@@zackcook5123 Yeah, read about it. It is pretty cool... and depressing when you think about how far we could be at this point if things had gone that way.
"But 40k is a parody!! It is not supposed to make sense!"
-A common counter arguement from someone who's trying to defend the grimderpness.
Yep, having a debate about the stupidity of psyker Geller fields (the logistics alone would collapse the Imperium within a week) on another comment thread and had a GW fanboy (or employee) going that exact place
@@maddlarkin Uhhh, how are geller fields stupid?
@@K4inan watch the video mate. Psykers didn't exist at the time when the 1st geller fields were made
@@K4inan He means the psyker based fields.
A parody of what?
And if things are not supposed to make sense I guess I can just write a story about Grey Knights allying with a Khorne warband to kill a bunch of exodite eldar that were minding their own business and feed them to the tyranids.
What? Its not supposed to make sense right?
The Grey Knights derpiness reminds me of how they fought alongside the Tallarn Desert Raiders against a massive demon incursion. After the Tallarn guardsmen and Grey Knights successfully stopped the incursion, the Grey Knights slaughtered all the remaining Guardsmen because "HURR DURR YOU WITNESSED US AND DEMONS LOL". If you really wanted to keep it secret then why not induct the guardsmen as a support army for the Grey Knights/Ordo Maleus considering they are now probably pretty good at fighting demons. It just seems stupid.
Anyone that actually supports this is just looking for more grimderpness. It's actually fucking retarded the grey knights are reduced to I'm the most pure and incorruptible and I also murder the innocent because why not??
@@deron2203 What's funny about all this is that they're supposed to have a piece of armor called the Cuirass of sacrifice' as to never forget the regiments that fell to extinction fighting alongside them. So you think they'd have more tact regarding friendly fire.
From what I can tell, I think the Grey Knights prefer to try to get the Guardsmen killed in battle. Enough Guardsmen _will_ turn the tide against a Daemonic horde, but leaves a lot of loose ends to deal with, so I think the Grey Knights plan their strategies so that by the end of a major battle or a campaign, _most_ of the cooperating Guardsmen have already been slain, if not _all_ of them. They _deliberately_ plan their campaigns so that any witnesses are likely to die when and where they can be the most useful, meaning that there may only be a dozen Guardsmen left to put down by the end.
I would like to see a senario where after Grey Knights finish a incursion, and kill all the guardsmen. Than one day later another wave of demons pop up and the Grey Knights would just be by themselves afterwards. Its going to bite them in the ass eventually.
@@Tacoguy1000 They inscribed the names of the Tallarn officers on their armour before killing them, but it still seems stupid.
Most things about the Grey Knights honestly sounds like it was written by an edgy 12 year old trying to make his homemade chapter the bestest and hardcorest
As a new-ish fan I've gone through what I think is a standard progression of thinking the grey Knights are the most mysterious - coolest - most badass - edgy - questionable - dumbest - please stop chapter in 40k
@@Lil-ik3kh haha same
He-Which-I-Shall-Not-Name, you mean? X)
The idea of Grey knights is really cool. Theyre like space paladins.
But then the shit writers make them do is dumb, and only getting dumber.
At the Chaos weekly meeting:
Nurgle: I've infected the galaxy with Derp.
Others: Niiiiiiiiice...
Wouldn't that be Tzeench's jurisdiction?
@@patrickmcginty3234 they worked together on that one me thinks
@@mugenokami2201 Sounds like one of the few things they'd colab on. That and some meme (since those can act like mind viruses but both have something to contribute.)
The dumbest part of grey Knight trials is not the difficulty involved considering they need to be incorruptible I think that is fine
It's the non stop mind wipes that are grim derp any lessons you learned during your trials removed anything that gave you a strong will from your life before the trials deleted it is counter productive
It’s not the Imperium if they are not counter productive
this^
being mind wiped every 30 minutes is already silly enough (and i'd imagine that giving brain cancer in the first 6 months of service to one of the best of the best after spending millions in resources creating and arming him would be kinda counterproductive) but doing it to a powerful psyker whose power literally comes from their high intelligence, knowledge of the way the warp works and powerful imagination is just cutting their legs off right from the start...
might as well mind wipe them, take their brains, use them as fuel in some form of weapon that gives you a warp shield or fires warp energy bolts then give those to normal space mehrines...there...just saved the imperium 10million imperial credits per soldier each day, made the space marines even more op and grimdark AND saved the environment by creating a way to recycle all those powerful and juicy psyker brains.
Funny to imagine a bunch of terrified Grey Knights on the Battlefield who bolt the moment a lesser Daemon charges them.
@@thewhompingwampa2671 :a wild nurgling appears:
grey knight 1: "aaaaaaah what is that thing?! kill it with fire!!!!"
:purging follows:
grey knight 2 : "ufff we survived the day...lets go home for some well deserved rest"
grey knight 1: "yeah...fortunately for us it's not like we'll fight weird things like these every day!"
:goes home, gets mind wiped:
:next day->wild nurgling appears:
grey knight 1: "aaaaaaah what is that thing?! kill it with fire!!!!"
...
GW are counter productive
I am impressed that nobody talks about the grimderp way the Inquisition handled the rightful protest of the Celestial Lions. The Lore paints Space Marines as an extremely rare and powerful resource for any general or admiral in pretty much every theater of war. Like a single company of around 100 Marines tipping the scales of entire sector spanning wars. So nobody in his or her right mind would go around and make it their life goal to wipe out an entire chapter of highly loyal Marines, especially in a war like the one for Armageddon. "Ork Snipers" are a meme for a reason. When the Celestial Lions left Armageddon with less then 95 Marines, without any Apothecaries, all Gene Seed of their fallen brothers lost and damned to rebuild their strength for generations before becoming a fraction of the force they once were, the Inquisition had to kick them further by denying them the means to create Primaris Marines, denying them reinforcements, when their homeworld was destroyed by a warband of Chaos Space Marines and send out a Callidus assassin to kill their Chapter Master. At one point in that story the Inquisition could have left it as a message send loud and clear, but they had to go even further out of pure spite. That nobody in said Inquisition tried to intervene in that kind of destruction of allied forces, or any other authority of the empire for that matter, is also highly grimderp.
Thats because a fraction of the inquisition are literal heretics who think that Big E wanted eternal War. So they do anything and everything to gimp the Imperium anytime it gets a win.
I remember when I first read (or rather listened to the audiobook) the first Eisenhorn novel the sensibility of the inquisition was kind of jarring. Before that my knowledge of them was they were basically an exaggerated to the point of comedy version of the Gestapo. But the Eisenhorn books have them being a grounded, multifaceted organization that genuinely has the best interests of the Imperium at heart.
@@aceofspadesguy4913 For every dozen inquisitors, there are at least 2 who should be removed from office/purged for causing more harm to the imperium than good. This is the way I have always viewed it, the fuck ups tend to stand out more than the successes.
The problem with the inquisition is each individual inquisitor gets to decide what they think heresy is.
So you end up with a bunch of assholes, extremists, and crazies mixed in with the sensible ones.
Yea that was completely insane. And here's the thing, the Celestial lions were a pretty nice chapter of dudes, before they got pushed into the arms of chaos by stupid inquisitors.
I've heard a few stories from city kids who had a little freakout when they went camping for the first time, and if people can live under train tracks and get a full night's sleep living in a baneblade would be fine and could definitely lead to sleep dependence. Just think of it in terms of the kinds of sounds. They wouldn't be random, it would be the same engine, beeps, and servo sounds repeated regularly. That's exactly the kind of stimulus that can become subconscious, it's the same mechanism in your brain that lets you hear when the engine of your car sounds wrong
Same here, lived near the Main Street in my home city with constant traffic noise day and night, and definitely had problems sleeping without that background noise to the point that I use headphones with white noise to sleep now.
I’ve seen adult soldiers have trouble with it. Forest sounds are scary to city folk. We mocked the hell out of them.
there have been studies about sleep, as long as the noise/shudder is relatively consistent, you will fall asleep in about 10 minutes. if there are surprising or random sounds, that's what keeps you up.
To add onto this. If you arent regularly hearing those noises it means something is massively wrong
Your brain can in fact become addicted to noise in cities like Beijing and Shanghai some people develop something called the hum where they were so used to the loud constant noise of the city that when they move to a place that is quiet they may start to rock back and forth and make humming noises cause they feel uncomfortable without all the noise of their 24-hour a day City.
go sailing for a few weeks, the moment you stand on land, you will think everything is moving because you adaptet to the conditions on a boat.
sure! But since WW1/post WW1 we have crews almost living in their tanks, and we do not see these effects, atleast since rotation of units is commonplace. If the Big smelly E can't get this right well ALL is lost.
@@Tzkaar fair winds and following seas shipmate!
Sounds almost like Tali when she first came onto the Normandy.
@@MrOstereier theres a difference between living in a tank fot one war and as you say they would get rotated so there only in the tank fot a few months vs being stuck in the tank from when your old enough to serve (16-18) till your tank gets blown up. Thats a whole other level of ptsd
One thing I find funny about GW and them getting all high and mighty about their IP is how often they will "borrow" ideas or pay homage to other IPs. It's kinda funny when you start to think about it
Warhammer 40k is just Dune-ship troopers. They copy everything, and then copyright all of it. Entire genres of space sci-fi were non proliferating and dead for decades because of them. Their existence has taken an irreparable toll on culture that they can never be worth.
Like the Adeptus Arbites? Or plasteel?
During my first tour in Afghanistan (2003) we found out that the locals called us The Helmet Wearers (there were lots of SOF at Asadabad and they wouldn't wear helmets when they left). The story was that we had to kill our own mothers to get the helmet.
I take a lot of the grimderp as similar stories.
Well i wonder what they say about you fellas now
Bro that is sick know all the grimderp sims plausible and more realistic considering the setting.
Hard to blame them considering the millions of civilians killed while we were there.
@@SN00PICUS and we’re killed before we were there and are being killed even more now. A reason why no one can govern. Everyone has a grudge.
@@SN00PICUS it's closer to 400k throughout the middle east but still fucking terrible
Another big Grimderp moment was what happened in the story, "Death of Integrity". To give context, Archmagos Plosk meets an AI from the DAOT about 15,000 years before the current setting of Warhammer. In that story, the AI tells the Archmagos how the ship warp traveled in time thousands of years into the future. The crew saw the future of the galaxy, that it will slowly be consumed by chaos. When the captain went to the nearest planet to warn humanity, he and his crew were called heretics and brutally tortured to death.
The Grimderpness in this situation is the length that the Imperium goes whenever they hear about stuff from the DAOT. Yet, when people from the that very timeline, with working technology to back up their claims, come to your doorstep to warn you, no one, not even an Inquisitor, someone from the Mechanicus, or a Noble decided to do a thorough investigation on their claims. Not even the threats involving chaos, which anyone in a position of power that is loyal to the Imperium would take seriously. They just simply label them heretics just to show how much humans have fallen from their prime.
First off it's the DAOT, an event where events like the the men of iron eventually occurred and humanity became superstitious about a.i, and those who don't worship the emperor must die. It's not that hard to understand, while they did saw the future, the inquisitor wouldn't be able to find any evidence to see If their even telling the truth to begin with. It's like if someone told me the big bang will happen next month, there's no literal evidence to back it up. So why should I believe some random crazy person.
Excluding all the fantasy elements shit like this happens all the time
Good people getting silenced, censored or killed for trying to help those around them is a very common thing throughout the ages.
@@aczeartk7032 what he meant was that it contradicts the stuff from before
Considering what people would do to get ancient DAOT tech, you think they would of ATLEAST calmed their murder fingers to see.
RE: Baneblade crews, extended stays in noisy environments can definitely make quiet weird and uncomfortable, albeit not absolutely maddening. If anything, I would assume Baneblade crews go nuts when deprived of their tank because it's a fucking tank and it makes them feel safe.
also maybe being close to powerful machine spirit that inhabits the baneblade is pleasant, and you can get addicted to any pleasurable activity
I would also go mad if I had a tank, and somebody took it from me. I wouldn't be able to sleep for days afterwards.
Watching the infantry marching beside you get mulched time and time again is bound to make you a little attached to your armoured box.
Can confirm i used too live near one of the noisiest streets in my country and it led too me having a hard time sleeping without the sounds of cars going by, also yea it is probably something too do with them not beaing near their machine spirit people become ridiculously attached too their cars and give them personalities now imagine that car has a spirit and an actual personality.
Baneblades are literally houses. Moving fortresses. It wouldn't surprise if they had tiny kitchens and bathrooms. Definitely some bunks so they can skeleton crew at night and get some sleep
I disagree with that part of the BA recruitment. The way they have to kill each other in several rounds of combat is way more stupid.
They are put in the Sarcophagus because it rapidly ages them to adulthood and grows all of their organs except for the Black Carapace. Dante goes from small, malnourished, lightly mutated boy to sexy Neophyte in just a few months, same for his friends that made it. What actually makes them go insane during that coma are the Visions of Sanguinius that come with the Gene-Seed, so they would've gone mad anyway sooner than later.
The reloading of a warp drive, where a man has to bring a crystal into a core and perishes with it
Using servitors ... to open doors.
About the Baneblade crews:
I live in a sparsely populated country in Europe. A friend-of-a-friend who lives in the dead-silent countryside had a Japanese girl over once, from some densely populated city like Tokyo or Osaka i think. She was stressed out AF because of the ROARING silence. This phenomenon was unknown to us at the time so we didn't understand what happened to her. But her mental health was quickly deteriorating and couldn't take it so she had to go back in less than week.
I know an old woman who runs a farm in the countryside who welcomes volunteers, to work for food and education, who had a Hong Kong girl over once. She also had to be sent home within a week. She was also stressed out by the silence and lack of people. So the family of course helped her to the airport.
gives Sound of Silence a new meaning. But I agree. Me and a coworker were both transfered from the city to a rural area. But while I came to live at the mainstreet where there is constant traffic noise to a degree he ended up next to the fields. Told me he had problems to sleep at night cause it was so silent in his flat that he could hear the buzzing of a fly. I had no issues at all.
more likely agoraphobia than anything elese
The most powerful Chaos god is always GameWorkshop. They can make up so many ill thought-out plots and contradictions that would make the four Chaos gods looks like amateurs.
Tzeench looks at the 6th Chaos God and goes " I cannot see any future or plans, you're just rolling billions of dice looking for a hit...maybe you should try to take a break?"
@@TheFatalcrest Malice? Or the Emperor?
@@mitchellbaker4847 xD GW, lol perhaps i should have said 7th chaos God
The Kroot were an expanding space faring empire that fought the imperium of man on the planet Patria for 47 years creating the regiment known as the Fists of Lagus. Found in the top left of pg 28 in the Imperial guard Codex from 1999.
Derped 3 years later and they are now a bunch of Neolithic savages found on 1 planet used by the Tau as meat shields.
I also love when the space wolves just massacre grey knights. Like, you'd think they'd put up a *little bit* more of challenge.
Then you remember that the Space Wolves were basically designed by the Emperor to put the hurt on _other_ Astartes, when necessary. No matter how busted the Grey Knights are, they are still, first and foremost, Astartes. That makes them _prey_ to the Space Wolves; _dangerous_ prey, but prey nonetheless.
The Space Wolves are too independent for the High Lords, however, so they ended up needing to create the Minotaurs to bash whichever Chapter was bothering them at any given time instead.
Anti-astartes astartes vs psyker-astartes. It makes some sense.
@@w4rpf1nnlad You'd think grey knights in dreadnought armour would still rack up a bit more of a tally though.
@@SaltineChips Well yes but in these situations the "rightgeous" have best armor of them all, plot armor.. 😅
@@w4rpf1nnlad ahhh... Right, that.
I really hate it when GW retcons stuff such as the Gellar field being a thing of science and technology to something like a comatose psyker just for grimdarkness. Aswell as it seems that only the super humans get new toys while the Guard gets fuck all.
Is it too much to ask for new equipement for the Guard I'd take a reformation of the Solar Auxilia with their better equipement. Would prefer equipment like tanks/IFVs that are more in line with our Modern militaries such as remote/servitor controlled turrets.
BTW, how would that work? psycher get corrupted by Warp all the time, even more when using Warp power when in the Warp. But this one psycher can use his power to protect the whole ship and there is no risk?
@@ludovicm5585 By that logic, the Imperium should be burning though Gellar Psykers like Tyranids through Biomass.
@@ludovicm5585 You raise a valid point, the writer who changed Gellar fields is an edge-tard.
They do realize that that recon essentially means the psyker can never be woken up, due to the fact they would probably have gone fucking nuts in their sleep right?
I would also like it if they expanded on the xenos mostly eldar they need some attention instead of just fanboying over the astartes
To be fair I always saw the manual loading on ships to be the mechanicus trying to stay on top by nerfing the other forces of the imperium
But there’s conveyor belts and pulleys, both of which can be automatic yet low-ish tech.
Autoloaders have been a thing since World War 1. I can see the Mechanicus having superior ones that require far less manual input to operate, but the rest of the Imperium would still use them. Not having those would doom their ships to be annihilated by every other race.
_ACCESS. DENIED._
But thats literaly stupid... they will never go to war with any other faction of the Imperium. All this would achieve is their own destruction because their allies run out of ammo slaves.
Well that would make sense for some insane levels of technology, not loading mechanisms. Plus even if that was a case, every space battle fought by the imperium would be probably lost, as using slaves just doesn't make any sense from several points of view
The bullet blessings being "blessed blood" makes even less sense not only cause blood blessed or not would ruin the bullets but there's also the fact normal sacred oils and stuff EXISTS in 40k.
The whole conceit of "Grey Knights have to kill loyalists when they see them" was a lame attempt to justify why the Grey Knights would fight certain factions in spite of being incorruptible. So, having written himself into a corner, Matt Ward decided that the best way to reconcile it would be to make the Grey Knights incredibly stupid... y'know, instead of just... not resolving it at all. Grey Knights infighting other Imperial armies with your buddies around a gaming table (and various other lore-breaking encounters, like Tyranids and Necrons, or Sisters of Battle and Tau) is one of those things probably best written off by the MST3K mantra, rather than trying to justify it in universe... poorly.
For a similarly-themed palette cleanser, there used to be a section in the old 3.5th "Daemonhunters" codex that was devoted to the reasons that Grey Knights would fight that faction. And the Chaos entry read something to the effect of "...seriously?" That was admittedly pretty funny.
I just don't understand why its not just agreeing that the game and lore are separate, having to justify why games have astartes vs astartes matches so often is so dumb.
Matt Ward. All one needs to say to explain ass retarded decisions
@@joedatius Maybe there wouldn't be so many Adeptus Astartes vs Adeptus Astartes matches if GW didn't push them so hard and almost force everyone to have Astartes.
@@joedatius They could have just said “The various chapters sometimes compete in war games.” But who am I kidding? This is the same company that willingly threw away millions of potential profits in free advertising just because they wanted people to watch their shitty animations.
Actually I find that whole loss of technology a bit grimderp. I get that inovation is extremely limited, and that some technologies are limited to certain forge worlds, since admechs are assholes and want to keep the best things for themselves, but c'mon. Like you are telling me that imperium lost the technology to built different rounds for autocannons, but still can built gellar fields, warp drives, plasma and grav weaponry and far more? I see how they could lose some kind of hardcore tech, but often its just something that could be easily reinvented back from other, still available, pieces of technology (which is something that admechs do a lot). Another example of this is that one kind of warship, thats so big that nobody knows how to build it anymore, but admechs will then proceed to build literal moons and space ports surrounding whole planets
They probably do know how to do it (after all they do worship technology), but dogma is a big thing.
I´d like to imagine it goes a bit like this;
" Look, I conveniently found the STC for this piece we were missing and totally didn t reverse-engineer or invent it".
@@entspannter There is a clan on, I think it was Necromunda, which basically does exactly that (and greasing palms to get away with their innovations)
@malfuy
Actually its the best grimdark part of 40k. Its not just that they lost technology its that they don't believe in it. Humanity died to AI in a war in the dark ages of man. To invest in and study what almost destroyed humanity is dangerous. So instead they worship the emperor and collect relics of old tech. To research new tech is heresy. Its the 'death' of knowledge that makes 40k so scary
@@seanbirtwistle649 well that would maybe be the case if Imperium actually worked like that. However, in lore, there are numerous examples of admechs (and sometimes even other factions, like Astartes or the Inquisition) reinventing or straight up inventing new stuff. The whole thing is more like "yeah we feel a bit grimdark today so we will randomly forget how to make ammo for 21st century-tier weapon, but we will invent an extremely advanced biotoxin which will destroy the whole hive fleet tommorow". Completely grimdark theme is good for tabletop, artworks and other stuff like that, but when you actually want to make some dynamic, believable and enjoyable stories taking place in that universe, the whole setting has to be somewhat functional in the first place
@@malfuy9558 yeah its not the most consistent lore
i could understand why baneblade cruisers when they're constantly in a fight why silence would make them extremely tense, with the amount of bullet bruising their tank and explosions happening almost non-stop around them, silence can only mean one of two things: dead people, or death and since they're clearly still alive it means death for them, plus they could've been bio-enginereed in way that conflit makes them feel more comfortable, but with the opposite when it's too calm, doesn't seem too far-fetched in a world like warhammer40K
The grimderp of the grey knights had me thinking they were the strongest. Then I learned about the custodies and realized how derpy the Grey knights lore is.
Oh you should hear about the months of shame and how their mighty chapter master got one shot by an old space wolf
@@bloodangel19 a chapter master and he just struck him mid sentence. but i guess that as a psyker he should have seen that one coming XD
IMO the Grey Knights should be stronger than Custodes. Not in physical contest sure but in a real life and death fight ... a custodes has no chance against a Grey Knight ... then again I would argue that any Librarian can zap a custodes... but whatever.
@@MrFallenone a custodes is supposedly immune to psyker powers due to a strong psykic( ? psykcic? psykic?... using brain powers!) imprint made on them using the emperor's own power which makes them shine in the immaterium as if they had a golden halo surrounding their souls (or heads? cant recall...) they're effectively like blanks except they still have...you know...souls and empathy and dont make a whole ship feel uncomfortable when they leave their cabins to go pee and all that
the thunder warriors also supposedly had the same...improvement...but the emps considered it was too much work to go around single handedly protecting his marines minds one by one when they could just fall dead from a stray bullet the next day so he just did that to custodes and left all the others fall to cha...i mean...less protected...
@@pedromoura1446 not really that just makes them immune to corruption of the mind and soul has shown in both the tabletop game and in various novels the moment they face a proper psyker that doesn't rely on bending peoples to their will and without the company of sisters of battle they get trashed this is why the sisters of battle are even a thing
No thunder warriors weren't immune in fact when exposed to raw warp energy they instantly degenerate into hulk-looking berserkers
Yo Major, since you made a video on loyal marines from traitor legions, I was wondering if you'd be interested in traitor marines from loyal legions? since apparently in the lore, all legions had traitors, even though I've never heard of any of them other than the fallen dark angels.
That is very interesting, I'll like it so sir Major can see it.
Wait.... How do You know the FALLEN!
There was a whole ass event where several loyalist chapters were sent to the Eye of Terror to perform a repentance Crusade by a corrupt Ecclesiarch. This basically created a ton of traitor warbands, and I think only one of all those chapters sent stayed loyal in the end.
@@electricfeverx976 im pretty sure he means during the horus heresy when loyalist legions were still running around and what traitors came from them.
What is this heresy??
The baneblade crews makes some sense. Think of it as a form of ptsd. Its like the people who get a taste for battle and cant function in the civilian world. Seen a few guys like that while i was serving. They just get this look, like a mix between a thousand yard stare and a shark eyeballing a tasty baby seal. With the amount of combat in 40k and how hard it is to get out of the IG, i can imagine those guys suffer that stuff a lot more than soldiers do today.
The Macharius novels have that thing were they follow a crew trough the years of the campain. I found that aspect even more interesting than what's up with mighty Lord Solar.
This reminds me of the Warhammer 40k vs, lore searching and lore contradictions. Aka..
1,) The Guardsman being painted as useless piece of shits, who can't do anything, and are only there to blow up, but in other lore they are described as well equipped, well geared, with power armor support, anti tank, and superior tactics. As in proper soldiers. In other lore you can use them even against Chaos Space Marines in defense or whatever. Bit of a stretch. It's just very contradictory at very many points.
I also think that transporting, feeding, training, and arming, millions of Guardsman, just to throw them in the grinder and kill them off for "grimdark" is stupid.
2,) The second is the equipment grimdark. Aka having 10 Terminator suit left in the Whole of Imperium, Such Rarity, Such Devastating Pain of Losing a Holy Sacred Relic, and than they lose a 100 of it in every battle. But also, the logic of recovering them. If that Terminator suit was lost, 99%, whatever killed it, just destroyed it. It's also piloted by an Astarte. Limbs lost, getting cut in half, organs lost, still fighting. But somehow that Terminator suit is "whole enough" to be recovered, repainted and it works again. Logic.
Leman Russ. In one lore all of them are made so well, that they can shrug off heavy weaponry, and like they are so durable they bounce when a knights cannon fire hits them. BS. Really? BS. If that so, what stops them? Well Orcs are so much stronger with their shitty scrap shoota, or they cut it up with knifes. Yeah, also a guardsman or anyone can blow them up with wh40k RPG-s. BS. All the way. This is "fixed", by other lore saying, that most forge worlds just can't make them well! They run 60-80% less than what they would be capable, and the crew pretty much dies of smoke or noise pollution. ~Grimdark.
Or simply, the Leman Russ is a modular OP tank, like T-90-ies were, but they are also cheap and mass produced.
3,) The last one is the gear problem. Aka, how strong a lasgun is? Base it on the lore. One lore says, that it's heat based, and so it blows up water. It's really dangerous to humans, but, not really at anything else that's water and meat based. Orcs are fungus, so it doesn't work. It just leaves a small hole. Why? They have blood. They have plenty of water. Well, they are stronk! Get used to it. Okay. Tyranids. They have even more fluid? Nope. Also doesn't do anything. It's just dumb. Doesn't make a sense. They are also horde type of enemies.
In other lore, it does make sense. Unless you hit a part of the Tyranid carapace, the strongest point, you can pretty much decapitate them. Same with Orcs. No scrap? Dead Orc. Pretty much just cuts it up. Blows his chest open, blows head off, blows arms off. Fungus soup.
There are a lot of contradictions in the lore.
That’s the main problem I have with 40K, these tanks are supposed to be absolutely strong but if you look at the actual stats and what materials they have, they would be shredded by Modern Tanks in terms of Armor, Weapons and More. Yet a Lemon is somehow able to just be bounced like a ball when hit with something absolutely strong. Consistency is as reliable as using cardboard to be a bowl for water.
@@Predator20357 Absolutely. Leman Russes are know for being mass produced. They are the mid-category, where arming it more, just doesn't worth it. Because it will die anyway to stronger opponents or anti-tank methods. It's mass produced in mechanicus presses and fastly assembled. Great design. Easy to make. Good protection and reliability.
But it's not going to bounce of a knights cannon and it has plenty of counters.
the tank crew, going crazy, has real world proof.
i worked on off shore oil rigs and they are loud! its never quiet, and when u get on them you cant sleep but after 2or 3 days you stop hearing the loud noises and you just get used to it.
but when you get home, the quiet is so loud and deafining it will fck with you for a couple of days till you get used to being home.
so i hope this helps.
Were you driven mad and institutionalized? No? Then you re wrong
@Aquarium Gravel copy paste is never a goof answer. Except if you are child. Try again
The boots that teleport babies underneath them everytime you take a step is my favorite analogy for this
I'm sexually confused and scared about his James Bond bathrobe, but its ok
dont be confused step into the light of acceptance
Bruh 🤣
Same here but without the confusion
I'm angry at his stupid bathrobe. He should take it off!
I was wondering how many comments I would have to scroll through to find mention of MajorKill wearing a bathrobe for a grimderp video. MK nailing it!
imma say it, grey knights are just one massive grimderp moment, like the grey knights as a whole aren't exactly contradictory in of themselves BUT like 80 to 100% (depending on who you're asking) of the writing around them are made almost entirely of massive "I'm sorry what" moments
7:06 This, I just disagree with it. There is a too far in grimdark too, when it's just over the line. Every ship that travels uses a Gellar field. Even travelling in-between planets can take years. That much grimdark, is just too much. It makes the setting unloveable and psychotic. Aka there are transport ships, small ships with 10-100 people. Those too have a tortured psycher? And the small to big ferry ships transporting food and resources? It's very close to grimdirt.
I think this could still fit to be in the grimdark category, maybe. But at that point, it's just easier to sympathize with orcs, hoping they would destroy humanity, than actually be interested in any of the lore.
The xenos are actually the good guys
@@Hinarukun No, they are not. If you know what the xenos do to each other, and to humans. But yeah. At that point, just fuck the Imperium.
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@@SamueL-td7fb IT'S WITZ A BBII YA GITZ!%
Bruh it's called the warp, the immaturium, of fucking course it'll take years, it's not star wars hyper drive, plus they never said it would take years. And no psyhers don't get tortured in small ships all the time. Food resources usually arrive on time aswell as other resources. You're literally complaining for the sake of complaining for something that is explained in websites therefore you think "Noooo it's too edgy". News flash it's really notm
I realized the grimderp when I read about two creatures and couldn't think of a reason they would exist outside of being grimdark.
The first is basically a sugar glider, it starts off nice and friendly but after a couple generations it turns hostile and becomes a carnivore, literally it does this to gain trust before turning into meat eaters and attacking.
The second is literally called a face eater, so you can probably guess where this is going, it looks like a piece of cloth and it's strategy is to wrap itself around the victim's head, forming a airtight seal, secrete acid to melt the flesh, and dig barbed spikes into the victim's face so it can't be pried off without tearing flesh, there is no reason why a creature would evolve to become that.
The Face Eater is native to Catachan, a Jungle Death World. Catachan is explicitly mentioned to be the end result of an ancient Tyranid invasion that managed to mutate and warp the biosphere and ecology of the entire planet in preparation for getting devoured by their Hive Fleet... except that the Hive Fleet never showed up to eat everything, and the Tyranids eventually lost their connection to the Hive Mind and devolved into these horrible, degenerate lifeforms that make up the entirety of the food-chain on Catachan. These creatures are unnecessarily terrible and grimdark because they are ultimately still Tyranids, and _Tyranids_ are a faction that exists _exclusively_ to be unnecessarily terrible and grimdark.
The Demoncluaba, sounds more like something the Night lords or Emperors Children would do. NOT the Iron Warriors.
That was my first book of warhammer. It was "cool"
Honestly, I think it would. The Iron Warriors just wanted a way to birth Marines more rapidly. The fact that they don't care about the suffering they inflict _is_ their particular brand of evil.
On the other hand, the Night Lords wage a war of terror on the Imperium. They wouldn't keep the Daemonculaba a secret.
The Emperor's Children would make it even worse for the lulz, all just because they're cooked in the brain. X)
@@Archon3960 But wouldn't it make more sense if the Iron Warriors use machines instead? Maybe cloning? It would be a whole of a lot cheaper.
@@hometownboy6537 Well, they're not Fabius Bile, and ressources are cheap in the Warp.
That, or Honsou is just a massive weirdo. X)
@@Archon3960 Yeah, I guess that could be why. :)
The Gellar Field retcon is especially stupid because it's so easy to rework to give whatever brainlet that thought of the idea a pat on the head without throwing away the idea entirely (because I assume they're high-ranking enough that that's not an option).
Basically, if you want to keep the comatose-psyker idea and also be grim _dark_ without being grim _derp,_ then just make it that there was a 'discovery' in some distant sector of the Imperium where a sufficiently-damaged vessel required a truly deep dive into its otherwise sacred inner workings...only to discover a comatose psyker as the source of the Field. Then there could be some genuine investigation and debate among the Inquisition (you know, Eisenhorn stuff, where it's actually pleasant to read and not insane garbage) about whether they should make this information known to the necessary parties or if it should be suppressed because it's understood that obviously not _all_ ships work this way. Hell, throw in Inquisition-connected representatives from the AdMec that are similarly torn by the idea of either A) torturing loyal machines in trying to see if they contain heretical tech or B ) wanting to do _just_ _that_ and peel apart presumably-faithful machine spirits and their vessels to ensure their purity.
And it could end with them just collectively realizing that it's far better to just let things be. Whatever arch-traitor that started the practice is probably long dead, and there's more harm to be done than good by grinding the Imperium's infrastructure to a halt in the name of potentially turning one of its biggest internal allies (the AdMec) against it. It could even be distinctly bittersweet, as the fanatical purists among the AdMec representatives are put down and the more humane Inquisitors are given a choice to fall in line or suffer a similar fate (with the dilemma not only being for the pysker, but presumably also anyone on a ship that thinks it's a machine protecting them only for human weakness to condemn them to a fate worse than death).
See? It adds to the misery of the setting without pulling the rug out from under the basic principles of how the universe works. Easy.
Never used to like major kill now he's who I watch and listen too when I'm feeling down. When thinking of my parents death you bring a smile and laughs out of me on a subject that really doesn't have any. Thanks for all the ENTERTAINMENT!!!
It is amazing what a mixed bag W40K is.
On one hand, there is some really cool and interesting shit, but then they drop the ball so hard you have to stop and ponder about the general competence of people hired by GW, as well as GW themselves.
All grimderp moments come from the birth of Timmy
Is Timmy a warp entity? like one based on humilliation?
@@Inshabael. yeah he is
I’m sorry but I have to be a Timmy here.
“But Majorkill, writers write Inquisitors this way to show that not every Inquisitor is a smart person who knows the necessary steps to saving the Imperium. Some Inquisitors do indeed go mad with their power or get completely paranoid at how powerful or illusive Chaos can get. Hence the months of shame.”
When a Grimderp moment happens, it means a GW writer got high as a damn kite.
After hearing about the implications of some of these moments:
“Smart, very smart!” (Anonymous Kasrkin)
“A sound tactical move!” (Tau commander)
With a sarcastic tone of course.
The Marvel Comic about Ultramarine trials has the servitors fate and its survival rate is 1 in 300 though.
The marvel comics suck as a whole anyways. The thing you mentioned was another example of Grimderp
That comic contradicts the lore so hard most people don't consider it canon. All everything made by Marvel Comics these days is guaranteed trash
That's more like world shitters or iron warriors training
@@mattmark94 And that's why people read manga instead of western comics
At least it was written by Kieron Gillen.
But consider that Marvel has Spurrier and Abnett, latter being responsible for Guardians of the Galaxy.
I always imagined the 40k lore to be straight from an imperial library. Sometimes spot on. Sometimes filled to the brim with propaganda and superstition.
So if you don’t believe certain aspects, that’s totally fine.
It’s impossible to have that many slaves on 40K ships, simply feeding and hydrating them is logistically impossible.
You underestimate Robby G
I’ll give the inquisition this: fully half of them seem to spend their time hunting down the other half because they think they have gone too far!
The climax of Devastation of Baal was a double dose of grimderp ex machina.
A Daemon Prince was able to overcome a binding from Mephisto (psykers should have been rendered to gibbering schizoids from the shadow by this point), manifest through the shadow in the warp, completely shatter the Hive Mind causing well over 50% of Leviathan's net losses, then the Swarmlord skewers Dante like a summer BBQ only for Robot Girlyman to show up at the last possible moment to clean up the mess and somehow able to miraculously heal a dude who, by all rights should have been split clean in half.
Girlyman saving the day I can let slide.
Effectively ignoring what the Shadow in the Warp does to progress the plot, fuck no.
Ka'Bandha is a Greater Daemon not a Daemon Prince
Great Rift>>>>>>>>>SitW
Another way to counter SitW is to use more Warp power. It's all about power when it comes to the Warp
Ka'bandha only managed to manifest because of the great rift
@@christiandauz3742 This has been literally the only time SitW has been completely removed by force on such a scale. There have been numerous occasions where other smaller fleets have gotten closer to the GR with even more greater/Prince daemons without completely shattering their synaptic link across the entire sector.
The author could have written this part much, much better, like having a full on daemonic incursion, not one single daemonic entity.
@@Enja_Near
The Warp does what the Warp wants
If the Warp wants to expand and devour the entire Tyranid species and Hive Mind go for it!
As soon as he explained grimderp, I immediately thought of Vulcans unnecessarily shift of character for that incident where he burned an elder child alive. Almost like the author went all “Vulcan can be edgy too…”
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Brother yo tambien soy de Venezuela... Y vivo ahí 😞 me encantaría poder por lo menos coleccionar las miniaturas de Wh40k 💀
I think that Eldar Ranger being eaten alive in the Tau Codex (3rd ed I think) was a bit grim derp. Like I get the Kroot are supposed to be savages but come on, that's a bit much. I mean who wants their food to fight back?
Apparently the kroot since their whole culture literally revolve around going around eating literally anything they think it's edible and can mutate them into a stronger form
Guess youve never had sannakji
Regarding the Grey Knights, I think they are depicted pretty logically. Considering their selection process, you would certainly not expect mentally healthy, balanced and rational soldiers to emerge.
I ain't gonna lie, your first sentence made me question your sanity.
But the problem is they have more numbers then the Ultramarines.
Yet they could make those psykers Inquisitors or just erase their memories.
I would have believed the “can’t leave my baneblade” if it was them feeling like a god and indestructible inside vs being a frail basic dude outside next to other guardsmen.
I always thought the daemonculaba was a case of "that kid" trying to come up with something more disgusting than his friends can.
I can actually relate to the bane blade crew when it comes to sleep. I have hearing damage from my time in the military, and it's much easier for me to fall asleep with some sort of background noise rather than it being completely silent. Because of this, I tend to throw something on the RUclips app and set the timer to go to bed easier.
Yep, Grimderp, you got it right.
The Imperium really needs a health and safety department
and a HUUUUUUUUUGE amount of shrinks...
Heresy, you will suffer for your Emperor and like it.
I personally love every single cringe moment in this video for no other reason than…
Ah fuck I don’t have a reason I just like them.
4:20 idk man....in my time in the military, I've been sent to combat oversees and have been exposed to some noises I'd rather not hear again. But the one thing that really triggers my PTSD is silence. At least with noise you can some frame of reference, control, knowing. The worst sound for me is silence because it's....well....silent.
It's a fucked up trigger to have to live with and I deal and cope with it on a daily basis. So, yeah, you may think this is grim derp....but this is just life for some people.
Good to know there is such a thing as too grimdark, just because something sounds cool doesn't mean it will be.
03:04 I always take a big issue when franchises do this whole “only the strongest will survive” stuff. What a great idea to sacrifice some of the greatest fighters there is, instead of grooming them to their full potential. It also makes the Grey Knight look pathetic if they die in droves in a given mission.
every time i see a space marine die in a non heroic way all i can think of is that they went through all of that training of being the best of the best of the best, being able to be genetically compatible with the gene seed, and not dying as a scout marine, only to die instantly to a bolter round or something similarly dumb
What about that SPAAG vehicle they added to Astartes a few years back? The one where "specifically trained serf was being turned into servitor in most brutal way possible" because somehow the task at hand was too hard for Astartes pilot using neural interface to control the vehicle in the first place and purpose made cloned servitors?
You mean that type of astartes tank (i think it was a rhino or a predator tank variant) that uses guided missiles that are created by turning a servitor into a missile?
Matt Ward years are completely “GrimDerp”
Or just derp
Dan Abnett is the best damn Author GW has ever had... with William King a close second
Legit, as of late he has been driving the lore forward by himself
Feel like Abnett has had some real shitty books, like Unremembered Empire. Aaron Dempski Bowden has had good releases consistently though.
Yeah, a few of these moments and memes have always stuck with me. I remember when I got into the hobby, back in '03. I was sad that things like the Emperor's Custodes weren't going to get model ranges, nor the Primarchs of each Chapter/Legion, and then I found out about the Grey Knights. I think they had been there before; I remember seeing an even older, more baroque, pewter mini, and think they occupied a space similar to the Inquisitors, where they could just be added to certain lists. When they got their Daemonhunters list, I was excited; they were like Custodes-lite, with their fancier armor, their NF halbreds, integrated storm bolters, and a "roll to hit me" rule almost akin to invul saves, all for the price of 25pt/unit. They've been my favorite chapter of snowflake Space Marines ever since...and then they pulled stuff like other people can't be allowed to see them and live, or the incorruptible Grey Knights couldn't be exposed to this taint, but then they found these Sisters, and... and it wad just really dumb; not "I carry but don't invite a Daemon sword" dumb, or whatever Draigo trying to best portray Constantine Valdor is, but dumb. Still my favorite Space Marines, though. 😆
There's power in wearing a dressing gown with pride.
I feel like the manual loading of specific munitions would come down to imperial red-tape. Like the missiles must be loaded "by hand" because theyre too volitile and dangerous to be done by machine or its some kind of, almost, ritualistic thing
the Banebladepart isnt grimderp.
Ive been in naval deployment for almost 3 years straight due to me jumping from ship to ship just to keep going on operations. by the time i was done with that, and my government finaly noticved that i shouldnt do that i was unable to sleep for days without serious medication.
you see, on a Military ship, you have a vent blowing air into your face nonstop while you sleep.
the first thing, the Techies do when there is a Fire on the ship is turn that off.
so that you dont accidently suffocate or poison the whole crew just ebcause theres a fire in one room.
that happens even before the alarm is rung.
my hotelroom didnt have the constant noise of 50.000 Horsepower gasturbine engine humming in the background nor the vent constantly blowing in my face. the lack of noise and the alarm of "the vent is off, there is fire!" kept me from sleeping.
you might not lose your shit right away, but if you are depraved of sleep for days because your body is in nonstop alarm-mode due tot he lack of noise and ratteling around you: you will go nuts.
100%, this is why vets use background noise apps to keep away shit like tinitus from keeping them awake.
I love the names you have for your prints, "space elf death lord" I assume is maugan ra and not to mention the "space elf long-looker" LMAO. I really need to invest in a printer, but at the moment I'm working through a massive backlog of models from my vlka fenrika and imperial guard armies.
this video should be a timmy wonderland
I often wonder if my custom lore for various armies is any good. Then remember some of the writers that work for GW and realise I could probably be published.
I've been seeing MK wear this bath robe more often and all he needs now is a newspaper and a pipe.
Spreading the entrails of the innocent on your armour...seems about as chaosy as you could possibly get.
For me it is the Space Marine trials for new recruits. And the related art work. It looks great, it sounds though ass and the art depicts it as two huge Arnolds duking it out or wrestling some monstrous alien.
And then we’re told those are pre puberty boys of like 10 years old.
I now it’s the 40k world, but even Cadian kids only just have learned to snipe at that age. And we’re to believe 10 year olds are supposed to pass current day special forces recruitment tests and then hunt for their own breakfast that must consist of a facehugger, two Predators, Chtulu and a T-Rex.
the big issue is how its so fucking common, when every fucking chapter has a whole set of stupidly complex then it just makes them all not impressive or interesting.
Im loving the volume of videos you released dude, that sweet spot
I would say the penitent engine and mortifiers, I get the idea for harsh punishments for cowardice can lend into the grimdark but these vehicles just sound like they were written by edgy 13 year olds who main Dark Eldar, what a lot of GW writers need to understand torture needs to be grounded in reality and be actually believable in order to have an impact on the reader. Just read any Joe Abercrombie torture scene and compare that to 40k grimderp.
Also Dead Sky Dark Sun. If you know then you know.
At least they're not tech-tralls
"I see the Inquisition as necessary"... Dude.
Man this video speak to me, I am one of those people who think that if 40k scale down the grim dark for the sake of grim dark it will only get better.
I could see the psyckers that fail getting to be the ones that get sacrificed for the emporer
Unless if they prove promising then they become inquisitors.
I've heard it said that the ships use humans because their "cheaper", but when you need to feed them 2,000-2,500 calories a day, plus a couple of litres of water, as well as air, sleeping quarters, ect. they end up becoming quiet expensive in cost, logistics and combat effectiveness.
Especially when autoloaders can do 90% of the work for you for the price of some oil and maintenance
Simple, have em sleep in the halls feed them JUST enough food so they can get the job done
Grey Knights: We must save humanity from the chaos... by killing everyone! We cannot trust the living to resist the chaos, we must save them from themselves!
See at this point I'm wondering if the Grey Knights have already BEEN corrupted...
I am intrigued that the inquisitor’s tech priest at 8:00 seems to have a left hand for a right hand.
What purpose might this serve the Machine God?
Leman Russ Tanks use the same engine as Panther from WW2 (230 V12 Multi-Fuel)
To quote real life wikipedia
"The Maybach HL230 was a water-cooled 60° 23 litre V12 petrol engine designed by Maybach. It was used during World War II in heavy German tanks"
I love the grey knights and blood angels but the trials are sometimes just stupid, like you sacrifice millions of potential soldiers just to get 1 superhuman soldier who "MIGHT" just get one shot by a powerful enemy leader anyway. Think they could lower that number abit or give a good reason why so many people have to die like it gives the Grey knights some kind of power boost as they watch their friends die or something....not just like lul many peple die, dis darkkk
Awesome, thank you for posting today.
Are you ever going to do Fantasy again, loved your old videos?
He says before that they don't get enough views
The baneblade thing reminds me of this hilarious movie called My Cousin Vinny. Basic gist is that this Bronx lawyer comes to rural Alabama to defend his cousin in a murder trial, and three nights in a row he can’t sleep: he’s woken up by a factory whistle, then a train going by, and then a screech owl. But then he’s held in contempt of court and taken to jail: cut to him sleeping like a baby as a prison riot rages in the background.
Venezuela can be pretty grimderp
Dude, about the Baneblade thing: while doing my service I wittnessed a sergeant sleeping while he was leaning on the motor of the tank we were driving. Also, I find it quite relaxing to sleep while Motörhead is blasting on full power.
yeah my least favorite thing about the Grey Knights is definitely the whole "you cannot know of their existence" but like, the warp is somewhat known????? Just be like, "oh these are totally Ultra Marines, dont look into it, Guardsman." The chances of that guardsman seeing an actual Ultra Marine is so slim that they would probably believe it
As Outsider looking into the Lore.
It seems like the theme of fighting against the dying of the light, but some writers and fans want it to be completely hopeless.
Like the return of RG and his gradual fixing of the Imperium actually being a beacon of Hope, but also him knowing that some aspects of the Imperium he can’t get rid of quite yet…
All writers whom care about being picked apart by logic should take heed
I let out an audible *YES* in a Skeletor-like voice when I saw a new video
So each weapons of grey knights requires a pious man's life
So when they partice their aim basically one man died for this
And when they miss a shot one man died for this
When they slaughter sis of battle then decorate their armor with their inside one man died for this
And the dumbest part is that daemon are basically immortal, and can respwan at will so what is the point of the guy that wrote this bullshit
"the imperium has a too many humans...lets cull the population a bit by making EVERYTHING happen to them"
@@pedromoura1446 at this point people are just raw material like Magnesium or someshit
@@kreamcream1720 i can already hear the techpriest...
"for today's recipe of 'diy servitors' we'll 33 kg of magnesium, 22kg of plasteel, 45kg of ceramite, 2 big dak...i mean...sacred bolter guns and 100kg of fresh human. it also works with preserved human but i always seem to get better results when the brain is still working...so...first of all..."
:chainsaw sounds and muffled human screams:
I didn't know about the term Grimderp until this video. I'm glad it exists and that other people noticed some of these things as well.